Three prisoners died of thirst. All had water fountains in their cells. How could this happen?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- All three were mentally ill, and jailers say they have no responsibility to ensure prisoners drink. One family has sued.
Jails are NOT for the mentaly ill, what a disgrace.
I agree, but when they are used in that capacity, because we ALL know they ARE use that way sometimes, we need them to be better suited for it. They won't provide this care outta the kindness of their hearts; it has to be mandated.
We need Asylums back.
Especially in the wealthiest country in the world.
Unfortunately there are limited other options because it's illegal to place them in mental health facilities without their consent.
@@pezeron24 I am not sure where you live...but...we are NOT the wealthiest country any longer.
A lot of people fought to end the era of asylums because those people considered asylums to be cruel. Now, those who could actually benefit from them are left on their own with very little help.
They don't make money with asylums, but they do with prisons.It's all about money
Exactly
Make Asylums Great Again!!!!
You do realize that those facilities were cruel. They basically tortured people. Shock therapy was extremely common. People in the LGBTQ+ community were being held against their will and given treatment that they didn't want or need. During certain eras, they touched female patients inappropriately and called it treatment. They r@ped patients too and nobody believed them or cared. I agree that something needs to be done, but not a return to that.
How does TX get away with not having AC in most prisons?
Do Americans need to scream out loud from the mountaintops: "Bring back Mental Health facilities to America!!! And house your homeless!!!!!!!"
This country doesn't care about the mentally ill or the elderly!!!
Asylums don’t make money for the state
Or Vets!
They won't because there's no profit! That's why they closed them
That’s right
The fallout of Reagan
If you can't keep your clothes on or know to drink water or eat then you do not belong in a jail
How does someone “forget” how to drink water? Unless they have severe dementia or amnesia, this isn’t like forgetting how to drive a stick shift or algebra. This is something we’ve been doing since we were babies… I call bs! They may have stopped for OTHER reasons, but not from “forgetting”
You don't belong in public either
@@AdequateName. They weren't saying to throw them back into public
@@MarzieMalfoy then yall gonna have to cry somewhere else because those were the only 2 readily available options. Everyone always wanna blame the government, nobody ever wants responsibility. Blame her family for not getting her help all the time she was suffering up until being arrested.
This lady drank enough water each day to survive for 51 years, how where they supposed to know she would stop until she did?
Severe mental illness does not belong into a regular prison.
I agree. But, when major asylums were done away with, the sev'erely men'tally ill had to assimilate into society, and any abn'ormal, dang'erous beh'avior still had to be dealt with. Unfortunately, it's everyone's go-to to simply dump that bur'den onto the Police.
I agree. But, when major asylums were done away with, the sev erely men tally ill had to assimilate into society, and any abnormal, dang erous behavior still had to be dealt with. Unfortunately, it's everyone's go-to to simply dump that burden onto the Police.
They don't belong in the public either. Better in jail than around innocents.
@@AdequateName. do you think they chose their condition? Why do you want to treat human beings like animals?
@@AdequateName.better to get appropriate help, than thrown in a cage
Just because there is a water access doesnt mean there is water access. Some jails have water fountains doesnt mean THEY WORK!
Thing is there was working water fountains did you not watch the video? I don't think you did.
@@jase4270 They can turn the water off/on for each cell for maintenance.
That's exactly what I thought.
@@Inbeatswetrust But they can be sued if they "forget" to turn it back on. You have no idea how many inmates are looking for just any reason to file lawsuits.
Can only file suit if your alive to
“We investigated ourselves and cleared ourselves of all wrongdoing”
-county jail officials.
The Texas Rangers were the ones who investigated, not the jail officials... but your ignorant rhetoric will def get likes by fellow ignoramuses.
@@popcorn5130"our buddies on the same payroll investigated us and found no wrongdoing."
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@@l_burn LOL. So who, then, do you want to do a criminal investigation? Bakers? Car mechanics? Again, ignorant... but other ignoramues will "like" your comment. 😉 (BTW, learn the difference between State payroll and County payrolls. 🤣)
No, this isn’t the reality. Listen carefully to what was said in this report, because the difference is crucial and points to better solutions.
The finding was essentially that “we didn’t break any of the rules we’ve created for ourselves or that were created for us that we have to follow.”
So the solution isn’t to gripe that “we’ve cleared ourselves of any wrongdoing” and realize that “we’ve followed the rules we’re required to follow and this was still the result.” This means that those rules need to be changed so that this *_IS_* a part of what they need to do. _THEN,_ if they continue not doing it, you could start looking at that as a possible cause. But until then, they are literally following the rules they’ve got that they’re required to follow. You can’t say or do *_ANYTHING_* else until you’ve addressed *_THAT_* problem. So let’s get that changed _immediately._
This is what happens when a society refuses its duty to provide adequate mental health services to vulnerable citizens.
We have no right to police the world when we are allowing human atrocities like this in our own country!!
How is it anyone but the families fault? How does society owe anyone?
@@dcg590 The entire premise of any civilized democracy is that society as a whole must provide for the most vulnerable. It is known as the social contract. It is a critically important role of government and why we pay taxes. Sadly, your country is disintegrating everywhere because of your rampant individualism. Most Western democracies do a better job of social supports than the U.S. and it is the reason those countries are more peaceful, more healthy, and more content. Here in Canada, we still have social problems, but few people would argue that government supports are not necessary. We are, on the whole, a better and more peaceful country because we largely believe in social democracy.
@@dcg590 -- So what happens to somebody who is an only child, and whose parents and other extended members are no longer alive?
And if that isn't enough context for you, what if you -- heaven forbid -- woke up one morning to find that everybody within 3° of separation from you genetically and by marriage was no longer around. For example, an entire state was taken out by an earthquake or a radiation leak, but you just happened to have been on vacation halfway around the world at the time to have escaped that fate, but when you got back to the USA you found out everybody you loved is now gone.
What would you like to happen to you if you then subsequently became disabled, got cancer, or had some other medical problems that prevent you from holding down a job and supporting yourself any longer? Because the psychiatric issues are also medical problems by the way.
That sounds great but involuntary commitment is really difficult bc of the constitution. I'm guessing you're fairly young because it wasn't that long ago up until the '80s when people took the exact opposite position and there was tremendous political pressure to deinstitutionalize the asylums because it was cruel and people were being unfairly put in there or they would go through shorts schizophrenic episodes but be stuck in there indefinitely and argue that they were okay now along with forcing them to take psychiatric medication and therapy was cruel. We can't have it both ways. But suffice to say a very large percentage of the US population saw things exactly the opposite and since neither is perfect this was the lesser of two evils.
I really feel for this guy. My Mom was bipolar. She sometimes needed her medications adjusted. So one time she got arrested for ' disorderly conduct'. She wasn't drinking or on drugs, not sure if she was taking her meds. She called me from jail and was obviously not rational. She got arrested for acting weird in a 7/eleven and getting into an argument with the clerk. When I called the jail to inquire about my Mom,charges ect, police I spoke to were very rude. No compassion at all for her history of mental health issues. It was a Friday and they just said she would go before a judge on Monday. Whoever I spoke to seemed annoyed to have to deal with my Mother . They ordered her to a mental hospital for treatment on the following Monday, but she spent the whole weekend in jail and there was nothing my sister or I could do to help her. Later when she was well again, Mom told us a guard at the jail slapped her. They are not trained to deal with mentally ill and jail is no place for the mentally ill.
I am so sorry for your mom. Just make sure she's taking the meds.
The police don't have to feel sorry for ur mom...and what's the difference from an ordinary person and a bipolar person causing ruckus???she still causing a scene...plus ur mom said the guard slapped her that proves she knew what was going on..plus a bipolar person is the worse type when it comes to the public...they snap for no reason...more dangerous then a mentally ill person...it's reality ..not the movies...cops don't care about u or ur well being
Should have sued.
I'm going through something similar as your mother. The medicine we need are being hoarded by the police and fake Mexicans.
Excellent reporting I was a mentally ill inmate at Tarrant County jail my family had to get an attorney involved to get me my mental health medication. Unfortunately, not all inmates have access to these resources. Unacceptable.
I hope you are doing better these days ❤
@@colorbugoriginals4457 I am thanking you for
Asking.
I’m so grateful you got help and I hope your life is going much better.
Im glad you have a supportive family that’s crucial in all this is having an excellent support system around you and unfortunately many mentally ill people don’t hence why they are mentally ill or become worse! I hope you are thriving these days sister!
Thanks I am doing better.
I am of a mind to believe that their water was cut off, but it was restored when outsiders got involved.
Agreed.
No….severe mental cases will stop drinking water…because they either don’t remember…their mind can’t actually let them take proper care of themselves…or like they said they suffer from a paranoia that makes them think food and water is poisoned. It’s the same for people with Alzheimer’s….they often don’t know that they haven’t had water or food. My grandma broke her foot several times from stepping out of her tub in her nursing home…but never remembered to tell the workers that her foot was in pain…they finally caught it after taking x-rays after she was seen limping and saw that she broke her feet several times in each foot. She couldn’t remember to eat or drink either….so they had to move her to a more monitored place in the nursing home.
Why? The situation here is that these inmates weren't well enough to drink, not that their water was cut off.
TLDR: Watch the video?
I know I was in a jail that the shower water, in the hottest days of summer, they would deliberately have literally hot enough to cause blisters!
U already know
I don’t think I’d wanna drink water sitting on top of a toilet.
Stay outta jail and it won't be a problem lol
Be sure to stay out of trouble.
That’s exactly what I was thinking how disgusting
U don't have a choice. Stay out of jail they all are like that
Sweethearts, I’m 53 yr old and never been to jail. Don’t think anybody needs to worry about me going now.
half the time i was in jail those things (water/toilets) didnt work and the ones that did were absolutely disgusting
Yeah that sink looks like it had been without running water. It was disgusting and I'd be afraid of drinking from it with a sound mind.
Yeah but that 1 sink isn't the only place where she could've gotten water. There are soooo many other places she could've gotten water, there's no way that all of them were out of service. She could've drank water in the shower that is available for ALL inmates for crying out loud dude
@@draculastraphouse7863 She was too sick to drink for herself. She needed care, not just "available" water.
@@draculastraphouse7863 not if you are in a delusion that makes you think it's poisoned.
@@Supraordinare it most likely is
So they need to be in a mental health facility but are forced to stay where they cannot get the help they need and terrible things happen. What an effing surprise. These are people, for goodness sake. Unacceptable! No beds? Bring the healthcare worker there.
Health care workers don't get paid enough to go into dangerous places like jails. And the prisons won't bring them to more useful facilities for them, sadly.
That’s disgusting. And that fountain didn’t appear to be functioning.
If the jail is qualified to house these people, they do in fact have an obligation to ensure they're eating and drinking.
If the jail can't manage their conditions, whether mental illness, medical issues or physical disability, they need to transfer them to a competent facility.
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They would, if they could. But, when the wait for the few facilities available can be up to a year, they are limited. Blame the State for not having enough beds, not the sheriffs who are forced by the State to do something they were never intended to do.
@@meatpopsicle1567 why doesn't the state fund inpatient psychiatric hospitals? At the jail where I worked in New York state, a psychiatrist would have evaluated and committed an acutely psychotic and they get transferred to a state psychiatric hospital within a couple of days of their arrest. That's because New York prioritizes taking care of people.
@@meatpopsicle1567 educate them
There are no competent facilities anymore. Did you not get that message? That's why she was in jail!
I have been dehydrated multiple times. When you have a drinking fountain that looks like that, I can completely understand why she got sick. It also makes you extremely nauseous and not able to rehydrate without medical intervention. They are absolutely responsible!!!
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@steph, I said the same thing
We need to reopen the mental institutions in this country.
Yes. Retirement homes for hardcore Trump supporters.
Let's say we do, where will you get the manpower? Do you think this young generation will want to work in a mental facility? They have zero patience and always looking at their phones and want easy work. The ones who will work will do it only for the money and probably have zero patience and compassion (will more likely be abusive). And where will the funding come from? Tax us even more? The economy is bad, people can barely afford groceries, rent, etc. (Thanks Joe Biden!). People are spouting in the comment section the past, or "they don't belong in jails" ....but there isn't a real solution. There will never be a solution. People will die, people will go homeless, etc. Even the rich who are mentally ill still remain "needing help"...look at Britney Spears... rich but won't take her meds so she's out there sleeping with a felon whose using her and will probably go homeless and bankrupt.
To provide the level of support these people need I seriously doubt that our country has the capacity to pay the taxes to cover the cost and cut the programs that are currently unnecessary to provide the extra funding.
Who else would drink from a water fountain with a disgusting basin located directly above a toilet? How deplorable!!!!
Millions drink from them daily. It's just part of being locked up. Jail isn't supposed to be nice.
Don't go to jail...real simple.
very bad she dint have clean sink - I would not use that sink
@@audreyl704 Inmates are typically expected to keep their cells clean, which includes the basin and toilet. Persons with severe mental health problems fail to take care of themselves and everything thing else around them. The sink should have been cleaned for her.
It not a hotel
Perhaps the water to their cell was cut off as a punishment!
It is certainly a possibility . People in a deteriorating mental state increasingly act up ... people that cause trouble for the guards are punished .
It is not as implausible as many people might like to pretend .
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No. They didn't want to be in prison and chose to stop being in prison. That's it, there is zero fault - they could have done this at home, but they didn't, they regret their decisions that sent them to prison.
I've watched a video where the jail did exactly that . Why the prison staff would have access to the valves is beyond me they should have to call maintenance like everyone else
@private, Yea they would never tell you if they did that
Warehousing the mentally ill in jails or prisons is what we are left with after people like Ronald Reagan decided to close state hospitals. He started the trend in Cali when he was governor. And where did they go? To the streets, jails or prisons. Great Job Ronnie!
Great job deplorables!
JFK closed them down. He had a lot lobotomized sister and saw them as cruel although the current system is not any better.
Wrong answer, community activists got them closed.
You are all correct to a degree. It was a combination of liberals wanting to end abuses in some of the worst facilities, and conservatives wanting to cut budgets. Reagan did indeed start massive shutdowns of hospitals in California, and brought the trend nationwide, but it couldn't have happened without naïve liberals thinking that the patients would just go back home to their families and everything would be great. And then various governors across the country continued the budget cutting and closed more hospitals.
It absolutely increased our homeless population, and it's made it increasingly difficult in the decades since to find available psychiatric beds for patients who need them .
The community centers that were promised as alternatives to the hospitals, never actually materialized, and the few that did get established never had sufficient funding, and still don't have sufficient funding.
We only have 10% of the capacity that was available in the 1960s for inpatient treatment as a result . And obviously, we have not reduced the number of people in society who need the services because these illnesses will always appear.
@@TakenTookNow that we know it’s time to fix this problem, who is proposing that we actually do? That isn’t the same from both sides of the aisle. On the other hand, the sides of the aisle argument is only really relevant in the immediate sense that if we’re going to do anything at all, we’re going to have to change that balance - either the balance of which side is in power, or the balance of each of the sides agreeing that the problem needs to be addressed and a consensus reached to actually work on fixing it.
But first, the American people themselves have to finally grow up and act like responsible citizens of a nation of self-governed people and determine that we are worth working to support and improve each others’ lives in meaningful ways. I don’t know how else to get that ball rolling than to keep saying it until enough of the people willing to do something hear it and we start working together to accomplish the task.
isn't it OBVIOUS - they don't give a RAT'S BEHIND a person behind bars.... if not you must be DAFT
When i was in jail everyone who drank from the fountains had skin burnt off their lips. The chemicals in the water would dehydrate you more if you drank it
After seeing the mineral buildup in that one basin -- I believe you!
The water in your sink and toilet are the exact same water.
Were you in this same jail? This needs to be investigated.
I call bs! If the water dehydrated u then everyone would be dead! 💀
Because nobody cares about inmates.
Nobody listens.
Nobody expects anything to be their responsibility.
Amen.
Once your incarcerated you and your family no longer count. I've been treated like 💩 when just going to visit and I didn't do anything.
Paranoia can make a person refuse water because they believe it is evil 😢
Or they think someone is trying to poison them. Paranoia can have disastrous consequences
It can also do the opposite too! It's not too uncommon. The most extreme case I had taking care of a patient in the hospital was certain his wife has poisoned his blood and the only way he could survive was by chugging endless amounts of water. We literally had to turn off the water to the toilet in his room so he wouldn't drink out of it. That's how convinced he was. Hyponatremia is also dangerous and psychosis should not be treated in a prison. :(
3 people died of a thirst though. That tells me the prison more than likely had faulty water fountains that did not work and fixed it when there were deaths to avoid culpability.
@@Risingofthephoenixpossible. The mentally ill 3 could have not known to ask for it to be fixed.
That fountain look evil. It was disgusting.
There are so many humans that are mentally ill and because they dont have the right insurance they are locked away and forgotten instead of the authorities getting the correct help smh
Lyme disease is one of the worst misdiagnosed illnesses out there because it often represents itself as a mental disorder or arthritis.
Okay but wtf was going on with that sink seriously
I know..that sink was appalling. 🫤
@@paigeturner7788 I legitimately have no idea what the heck is happening with that thing. Like, it's so disgusting but I need to know
@@raeraebadfingersalmost looks like mashed potatoes from a TV dinner
It happens because the people who are in authority don't care about the people who they have authority over!!
Yet, the solution to people commenting here is to put MORE people under authoritarian control. They are useful idiots for the most corrupt.
This woman did NOT deserve jail, she needed help and observation.
The mental health providers in the jail should be visiting those patients regularly not the officers they are short staffed and are not trained to no the signs
Sad part is as a son he probably couldn’t get her the help due to legal bureaucracy
Water is contaminated
At the rate we incarecate people in this country, it is statistically impossible that everyone in there needs to be there or deseves to be there. What a disgusting, horrible system we've normalized and accepted.
We imprison more people per capita than any other country on earth and yet our crime rate is higher than comparably industrialised nations. Every time politicians try to get tougher on crime, prison conditions get worse and the crime rate goes up. The only winners are the companies that own privatised jail/prison facilities. What is wrong with this picture?
This is so messed up, my heart goes out to the families 😢
THE GUARDS ALSO HAD ACCESS TO TURN OFF THE WATER.
We investigated ourselves and discovered that we did absolutely nothing wrong. How do we know that they didn't turn the water off and on as punishment?
Because that's a civil rights violation and a very big liability issue. Denial of water cannot be used as a disciplinary method. Neither can denial of food, denial of toilet facilities, and denial of basic hygiene. You will be sued for doing that.
This is not French Devil's Island. There are thousands of cases settled in court that determine what is acceptable for disciplinary action, and no one in this country denies basic necessities for survival. They'll go to prison if they do that.
The woman was mentally ill and did not recognize she needed to drink. That is all.
Ain't that something 😢
You ever been to jail. Some guards like to abuse prisoners. They would not give me my meds and left me in a cold shower for hours. I got pneumonia.
When I was in jail, they did it all the time, or the sink was always broken and maintenance. So they had to turn off the water. I remember one time the medication.Person refused to give us medication because of one person's attitude. We all suffered. I was arrested for self defense in an attempted break in to my home. I'd never been charged prior in my entire life. They even refused to give me underwear.
@@heathermooney7013 Sounds like a New York thing.
"The sheriff's department can't hold people down and force them to drink water." Holding down and forcing people is what the sheriff's department DOES.
No, but they can take sick people to the freaking doctor or hospital. They would be extremely dehydrated and sick for a while before dying.
Which is why the mentality should even be there ❤
being in a mental hospital would probably not have changed the outcome. i was in for depression years ago and my back went out... i was bedridden for 3 days, told to "walk it off", couldn't even get up to go to the bathroom 4 feet away without indescribable pain, and couldn't make it to the cafeteria room... at no time did they have a doctor even look at me... people don't need mental health facilities, they need competent doctors and nurses regardless of the facility.
Yes they need competent doctors and nurses but when they do have them the COs and warden abuse them and force them to leave. Basically when they see a nurse trying to do the job they will threaten to report them to the board of nursing with false allegations. All because the nurse wants to provide proper treatment to the patient.
That’s actually right. I experienced almost the same thing when I was in a short term facility. I had some physical ailments as well, and that because it’s medical and psychological, they couldn’t do anything about it. They only really cared about if we ate or participated in the minimal group activities that they had, and (not that I’m a dirty person or anything) they never really cared about your physical hygiene. So much less will they care about water intake.
I meant *not psychological*.
Then maybe the standards should be raised
Our world is cruel to the mentally ill. Prison is a luxury, most are on the streets. No-one has the answer, especially without patient compliance. It’s always been a societal struggle. If you look at the treatment history in the US, it was full of brutal solutions.
Look at Northern Europe if you want to see how to treat mentally ill people with respect and dignity. The whole world doesn't mistreat these people, just uncivilized places. The United States is one of those uncivilized places and I am thoroughly ashamed to say that as an American.
PAINFUL - listening to COMPLACENCY in the CARE of others
My God! The incompetence of the staff is barbaric!!! The families should Sue.
They're officers not care givers. They're not paid to clean and bottle feed detainees. Her family failed her.
The exact same thing happens in nursing homes they just leave water there but don't encourage them to drink as it's classed as form of force feeding so they basically just let em get sicker n sicker.
This is true. I work in the kitchen in a nursing home, I'll take meals to bedridden residents and their food from the day before will still be sitting there. The nurses don't care 😢
And another favourite antic is to leave water just out of reach of nursing home and elderly hospital patients. How clueless of staff to not put water within convenient reach of a patient!? The careless stupidity makes my mind reel. Dehydration kills. It also mimics dementia symptoms. Keeping patients hydrated (especially the elderly and incapacitated) is a critical responsibility of care staff. They need to take it MUCH more seriously.
The place where my husband went, staff fed him and provided drinks with a straw and held them for him when he couldn't do it anymore. I believe it's not rare, what you're describing, but there are places where the staff genuinely care for their patients.
I was locked up for four days and I almost died of dehydration my lips were bleeding because they were split open from lack of moisture! I suffered from a mental condition where I shut down if I am held against my will,I can’t eat, I can’t function,I can’t drink and I will die within 5 to 7 days if I’m incarcerated. I was told by the courts and the jail it’s nothing that they can recognize, and that I should just die.
Re- open the asylums....
Went through this in Fairbanks. Guard liked to punish prisoners by shutting water to cells off. One inmate knew it was against the law to shut everyones water off for one inmates bs. So they were forced to turn it back on after an hour.
Bring back asylums
No just possible stay short term mental health facility
I bet they shut their water off also!! If your a problem in jail the staff are your worst enemy!! They do what they want. They are governed by themselves!!
Bring back Asylums
You can’t force a person to drink water. Time to bring back asylums.
THAT AINT EVEN RIGHT!!!!!!!!! shame on whomever is responsible for the care of these people. Mentally unstable dont need to be locked away, they need HELP.
And "whomever" doesn't need to be pretentiously misused and abused such as you did. 😑 ijs
Just because someone has a mental health issue doesn’t mean they can commit crimes and just get away with it ,ffs.
As an Australian, my only question to America is why are people who are clearly mentally ill, and have been diagnosed as such, even in jail in the first place?
Ronald Reagan closed most of the mental health hospitals back in the 80's. SO now we have the jails for them. And that's where many of them die.......or on the streets. It's shameful that in the USA, this is what many of them have to look forward to. Thanks Ronny!
Do not sue the jail, sue the state: Build or re-open the mental health facilities that were defunded under Ronald Reagan
Reagan did not end the mental health subsidies because he was simply a mean person. With more oversight, the cost of running a mental health facility became much more expensive. The majority of taxpayers were not willing to pay for them, and demanded Reagan cease the increases. The only option was to go back to the horrid conditions that mental health facilities used to be Iwhich would then be illegal), or close them down. Blame the taxpayers that were the majority voters at that time... we call them Boomers now.
We are being food and water poisoned.
I'm not comfortable making prisoners drink out of a water fountain that's attatched to a toilet!
Neither should have never been in jail. Not one day. This is how we help people afflicted by a mental illness. Shame and a crime.
"Neither should have never?" Your double negative is telling. 🤔
@@popcorn5130 having poor grammar doesn't negate the reality/correctness of what you're saying. Just makes it harder to understand by other people.
Sad! Tragic!
"The combination water fountain and toilet" just so wrong.
thanks Reagan!! again and again I say 'THNKS REAGAN""....
Jails are notorious for turning inmates water off when they are being difficult. A friend of mines dad died in custody from the same reason and his family sued the county and got 7 million
That water tastes bad af. Its all brown most of the time
Lack of mental ward beds? Wonder if America's increase in drug use has anything to do with that?
All three of these people had family who knew about their mental illnesses. Had their families cared enough about them to get them appropriate medical treatment, ensure they were consistently taking their medications, and/or had them admitted to a psychiatric facility, then they would never have become a “ward” of the criminal justice system. Their families didn’t want to be burdened with them. They no longer are.
they were illegally incarcerated ... and denied access to family. the family didnt know what to do to get her out, and doesnt appear they ever asked anyone for help or notified anyone she had been kidnapped by police...
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I've been in that jail and nobody drinks from those they are disgusting and all you get is one real small glass of drink at each meal and if you lose your cup you won't get any drink at meal time. Nobody wants to drink from the toilet.
Our government needs to stop sending millions overseas and start helping the American people! Build mental hospitals, etc
That’s it’s exactly what it look likes them fountains and I bet the Sheriff office of Tarrant County didn’t tell the news ppl that the water in the Sink be hot asf too…!!!! I’ve been in there. Run that sink water you will see!!!
I’m not mentally ill and I wouldn’t drink water from that disgusting moldy, toilet combination water fountain, sink. That is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen in my life
They did not choose to incarcerate. They followed the law. Jailers are not judges or doctors.
Then they should not house those in crises. The police typically know who are mental.
@@Supraordinare They do not have discretionary powers. They have laws and regulations to follow. It is for the District Attorney to request a judge to order a mental evaluation.
I've seen police take them to the ER because it is a medical crises and they get help via "psych ward"
@@Supraordinare For a physical emergency, yes.
@@glennhubbard5008 I clearly was speaking of mental health crises. It is not an opinion, it is a fact.
Bringing attention to cases like these is extremely important. Thank you.
First of all they said they saw a inmate deteriorating and not eating
That's a super Red flag
It's a shame that the mental ill people don't get attention
Yeah like duh
Like this water is making me diarrhea
Then go home.
@@catwoman2596 why don't you go home to the land where according to the media are terrorists oh wait you're in America you're home I'm not
@@catwoman2596 like the NYPD told the woman to go back to Mexico
Remember that jailers don’t decide who’s jailed, courts do. We need to have other options besides jail for people like this.
If they force a prisoner to drink water,the ACLU would sue them.
Nobody said to force them
I work with alzheimers patients some would not think to drink or eat if not encouraged or reminded. I know it isn't the same but it is a mental issue.
@@Supraordinare In prison when you go on hunger strike they put a tube down your nose to your stomach and pump it in you.Course your hands and feet are handcuffed.Its not pleasant.
@@wanderingweh405 good point. Alzheimers patients are also known to become aggressive at times and may batter someone yet they aren't carted off jail.
They may not violate jail standards, but they certainly violate human standards.
You guards may be able to fool the average people but you can't fool us that has been in jail. It takes 5 seconds to turn the water off on any cell they want. I cussed a cop once and they locked me down with NO WATER AND NO FOOD for three days. So take your lies somewhere else. The guards did that knowing what they were doing!
Mom always told me this old saying that you can lead a horse to water but you can't force them to drink. mental illness is a major issue in this country and we are not willing to deal with it.
And what would have happened to them had they been at home and responsible for their own care? People have to take care of themselves or they will die. It's a fact of life.
Exactly!! Society is not responsible to keep you alive, you have to be responsible for yourself.
I'm glad they talked about the fear of being poisoned and the fear of contamination that sometimes comes with mental illness.
Most of the fountains just dribble water and you have to use a cup that is difficult to clean. It's hard to stay hydrated or healthy.
Were you in this jail?
@@Babu-kr3cr Not myself
The guards turned the water off....
Perhaps the water line was temporarily turned off? As in a punishment!? 😢
The guards shut the water off OUTSIDE the cell. Happens in every jail in every city in america.
Mental health facilties lost their tax support during the Reagan admin. Not because Reagan was simply a mean person, but because the taxpayers demanded it. Before oversight, mental health facilities were horror stories because they had very low funding. Once oversight became commonplace, they became much more expensive to operate. The majority of taxpayers at the time refused to vote for anyone that would raise the taxes to pay for them, so that left one of two choices; either go back to the under-funded horror story (which would be illegal), or just close them down. If you want to blame someone, blame the voters that were the majority taxpayers at that time... we call them Boomers now.
And just how are they supposed to monitor water consumption, shy of video recording 24/7? A water meter only shows how much flowed through a pipe, not how much is consumed. Same goes for giving prisoners a certain amount and expecting them to drink it. They could pour it down the drain. Put prisoners on IVs? It is easy to say what should be done. It's often much more difficult to say how it can be done.
She should've never been in jail. She should've been taken to a hospital for help right away.
“We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.” This seems to be in every cops training manual.🤔🤦🏼
Open the mental facilities back up. Its not that hard to monitor them nowadays they were shut down before bc of bad treatment but these jails cannot be any better. They def aren't better right now. Is it the money they are making from keeping everyone as prisoners?
She went to jail for terroristic threats that weren't credible. Clearly the ramblings of a sick person which any reasonable judge would see as such. Why is it so hard to see that she wasn't a bad person and didn't belong in a jail? And I don't think these prison guards are at fault because they aren't trained as psychiatric nurses and their job is hard enough as it is.
When i was briefly incarcerated the fountian produced a small trickle of vaguely warm water that was split between 3 cellmates.
Cause the cos turn off the water in cells all because they can
I was wondering how many comments I was going to have to read before 8somebody else understands just cuz there's a faucet in them cells don't mean water comes out of it. It wasn't whether they turned the motherfu*king faucets off, it was when did they turned them on. They routinely left that water off.
If they are too mentally ill to know how to drink water they should have got help before they went to jail. Nobody noticed they needed help outside jail? Jailers aren't hospital staff.
Wtf??? Criminal neglect and im sure intentional!! 🤮
So does this happen at other jails across the country? How do their rates compare to this particular jail?
To expect a jail to function as a mental hospital is absolutely ludicrous. Mentally ill patients can't be forced to take meds or water. Sometimes a person's health, mental or physical, deteriorates to the point where it is no longer sufficient to sustain life. It is unfortunate, but to blame a jail for not forcing water down an unwilling patient's throat is beyond absurd. IMO I worked in a state mental hospital. It would sometimes take 8-10 people surrounding an angry patient and trying to contain them and try to convince them to take their meds, go talk to a doctor, put on their clothes... No jail has that amount of manpower or the money to staff
That is why they should not house those in crises. Arresting officer typically has an idea.
I could see one or two people not drinking, but if it was three you have to wonder if the jail guards were tampering with the water flow.
"Too sick to know that they needed water.'---News Report
Geeze. Prisons and jails are not responsible for this.
If a loved one is not mentally stable, why wouldn’t family see that they get help rather than leave them to their own devices?
I had a segregation cell because i was bad for a few weeks....right outside the cell door was the day room water fountain....it had broke and was being fixed and the c.o's were joking how they would never drink the water there....when they walked away i chatted up the repair man and he told me he had to replaced pipes because they were crusted with minterals and whatnot.... totally unacceptable
Yeah that's what happens to plumbing pipes.