Building the MOST AVAILABLE Custom Mechanical Keyboard! DROP CTRL
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Welcome back to Keybored! Today, we're building the MOST AVAILABLE Custom Mechanical Keyboard! Waiting months or even up to a year for a premium, custom mechanical keyboard getting you down? I have the remedy for you! DROP CTRL HIGH PROFILE. Just because it's always available, doesn't mean it's bad... in fact's with the right mods, it becomes great!
Some state that the DROP CTRL and ALT are not truly custom. That is true... if you buy the pre-built. OR you can take the full custom approach and do it the right way! Pick out your case, and all your favorite components to dive right into the world of custom mechanical keyboards!
The BUILD
- DROP CTRL HIGH PROFILE in Lilac
- DROP PCB and LED Diffuser Kit
- Glorious Panda Tactile Switch
- Stupidfish Custom Foam
- HK Gaming PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps
- Durock Plate Mount Stabilizers
Links to products used in video
DROP CTRL High Profile
drop.com/buy/d...
(Add on the Diffuser, PCB)
Stupid Fish Foam
stupidfish.des...
Glorious Panda Switches
www.pcgamingra...
Keycaps
HK Gaming PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps
amzn.to/3uoVxtx
Durock Plate Mount Stabilizers
divinikey.com/...
Tweezers
amzn.to/37t82uO
Prong Tool / Holder
amzn.to/387VQA2
Krytox Lube and Film
kebo.store/pro...
Shot on Sony A7 III + Sony FE35mm F1.8 and Fifine Condenser Mic
Sony A7 III
amzn.to/3cGUjma
Sony FE35mm F1.8
amzn.to/3bPHpTu
Fifine Condenser Mic
amzn.to/3eFbbfz
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Cultkey sounds pretty nice
Hi
You watch too many keyboard videos
dude fr u watch every single keyboard video
Hey, an idea for a new Keyboard Company! LOL Thanks for stopping by!
no
Everyone is happy till your dad realizes that custom keyboards cost more than $50
:) the hobby is an interesting one indeed
@@Keybored I would love to see that, the plate mount stabs on my nk65 milkshake are killing me from how much they tick.
Keybored : **Typing test**
Subtitles : [Applause]
I'd be applauding too
Hahaha, I just noticed that! Thank you RUclips for the applause!
@@Keybored anyone else just turned on subtitles to see this? xD
The reason you didn't notice any interference is because holy panda switches bottom out high enough to avoid interfering.
Yup! You are very correct about that!
people before long poles:
For plate mount stabs, those sound really good.
Yup! Will have a tutorial showing how to holee mod and improve the stabs like this one!
holee mod is now my go to since I had a board with plate mount stabs and they were awful and no amount of lube would help, but since I holee moded them they sound awesome
This dude can literally make anything sound good
Thanks WipeOSU! I have the ultimate challenge coming up... The GK61 and the new GK87... How amazing can a super entry keyboard sound and feel? We will find out soon!
whoever got this keyboard is one lucky human .
I want it and the ESC KEYYYYY 😍😍😍😍
Haha that cap did turn out great!
This light purple theme looks very nice! 😍
Hi minimalistik! Thank you for stopping by! I love how the lilac looks with the caps! :)
This keyboard sounds pretty nice, I was not expecting that, great job man! Btw. big shoutout for answering every single one comment, it is very nice how you care about your comunity
Hi Kai! Thank you for watching! I do appreciate that people are watching and leaving comments or asking questions, so I try my best to respond! Hope it can help more people get into this hobby!
Stayed for the outtakes 😆
I like it
"Being in the keyboarding hobby, we do get asked by friends and family for awesome builds."
So far, I have only been met with incomprehension and hesitant encouragement in the form of "I have no idea what you're talkin about or why it matters, but yay, go you, I guess?". -You're saying that's gonna change some day?
Lol that doesn't change that much. Started to change for me when I started a youtube channel and friends and family started to watch. One by one, started to ask me to build them something :)
This sound so good
Hi Danny! I feel it turned out sounding very nice, despite that it's an integrated plate design!
The metal pieces are for the non high profile version since they use magnetic feet's to increase the angle. You can set the feet's either create a positive upward angle or a negative angle.
Hi Jmun 1! That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for chiming in!
Honestly best keyboard typing I have ever heard. Really. You really deserve more subscribers!!!! Great content!! That acting not sure tho 😂😂
Thank you so much Jeon! Someone told me that the intro was "delightfully awkward" lol... need to improve my acting skills haha
I think the little metal pieces inside of the case are for the magnetic feet to stick on stronger through the case
That makes so much sense :)
That's what I was thinking too until I saw this was the high profile which doesn't use magnetic feet.
the reason there was no keycap interference was cause of the glorious pandas im pretty sure. since they have a longer stem and bottem out faster then most other switches it doesnt travel low enough for the keycaps to hit the housing. :D
Hi Fred! Good seeing you! Exactly this! I feel longer stem helps to alleviate the interference! I wonder if there are linears like this as well... Most likely a cream stem frankenswitch or the new durock poms might be OK. Time to try it out!
@@Keybored nice lol, though i feel that if you get a linear with a longer stem - reducing the travel distance - it would make it much less satisfying imo. but still would be cool to try out
The glorious pandas are made to be compatible with Cherry profile keycaps and north facing LEDs. That’s one of their marketing points. I have the same and again, no issues.
1 year after and your video is still pretty useful. Just got into the hobby of customization, and ordered this board as my first build. Got me the Lime casing with some white/pink keycaps. Can't wait to try out those modding tips you gave for this one. thanks!
I am addicted to your videos. Very well edited, filmed, explained, I will be recommending your build videos and tutorials to my friends. It is very apparent that you take pride in what you do. Thank you!
Thank you for the encouraging words Lawrence! I really appreciate it :) it may be weird to some people but I do love keyboards and I want others to get to experience it as well :)
Great now I'm ordering friggin foam and insane crap for my $350 keyboard. 🐰🕳️
🤫 Sadly it ain't the first time.
Haha, won't believe all the random stuff I ordered to experiment for videos lol
@@Keybored .. Between the keyboard and mouse (GPX) .. $935 and counting. I wish I were bs'ing or padding the cost. Oh well.
Ahhhh north facing LEDs. Just as God intended!!!!! ;)
As a drop ctrl owner, I would advice NOT to get this keyboard..
Do take a look at the drop keyboard discussions and you will realize so many owners (like myself) have chattering issues..
Afterall do your research before buying a product is always a good thing..
Sound advice on the research! I'm not a big fan of the halo switches
@@Keybored I wasn't even using halos.. I got them with cherry blues and it chattered.. so I tot it could be the switches that Drop acquired thus I change to box jade and the issue still persisted (this is even with the supposed "fix" firmware by Drop) thus I suspect it's the PCB quality/ build in the first place.
those little metal pieces at 4:28 are in the drop alt, and at least in the alt, they are for the feet to magnetize onto.
Yup! I was enlightened by the viewers :)
Can I get a hooo yeaa for StupidFish foam?!
It's great foam! I fully support!
Where's the artisan from?
Hi RedYoshi45! The artisan is from DROP!
I like the Glarses style intro!
Thanks YurttheSilentChief1! I'm glad it was entertaining!
I know this is an old video but I just found it. Great stuff man. After watching, I dove back in to my CTRL & pulled the stabs, did the band aid mod & took the op to clean & re-lube the stabilizers & just hit the buy button on the stupid fish foam. I have modded GMK stabs but went ahead & pulled the trigger on the Durocks you listed, because nothing is ever good enough.... dont know if it was the band aid mod or the re-lube but it did kill the ever slightest rattle I had on the left side of the space bar so I'm already happy. Looking forward to the foam & Durocks to see just how far I can push it. Thx again.
Dec 2023 - I got this keyboard and built it as my first keyboard. I didn’t buy any foam but I had some sticky foam around (like the white vinyl foam you used). Thank you for the video as it showed me where I can put foam and everything neatly fit together easily meaning I just put it together and had no spacing issues. Thanks for helping me find this rabbit hole. Never getting a mass produced board again :D
For the low profile version is there a little crevice at the lower case.
Yup! I was told that it was for the feet!
Lol i need a 150 CAD keeb but nothings available in canada or they are to expensive, i was thinking qk65 was a good choise but its about 250 in canada,and to make it decent i need about 70 dollars of oil kings and probably 50 bucks of keycaps
Your skit was 17x funnier than usual today. Because your acting was 8000x better than usual for some reason.
How's this board compare to the tofu? Really want tkl but can't find much about the ctrl
Hi MarioFan! I believe they're a bit different from each other. The ctrl is an integrated plate, while the tofu is a tray mount. Tofu also is a smaller and lacks the f keys. I think at the end of the day, it'll all depend on your need!
What family member things paying 100+ dollars on a keyboard worth it ?
Their website wants me to fucking kms. Do I rally have to fucking sub to their shit to just look at the products ?
What is the adhesive vinyl foam you used? I'm new to this hobby and I just want to make sure I get things right for my first build
The clash between the very rounded corners of the case and the very square keycaps is quite jarring to me.
Does the foam make a big difference? It seems a bit expensive for what it is (laser cut foam).
i'd highly recommend his keyboard as well. i actually did most of the same mods as this one but the only problem i'd say might scare away some customers might be it's overall volume. because the backplate IS the case, it can get quite loud sometimes, especially if you're playing or just typing in a quiet situation. i played a horror game and this keyboard kind of ruined the game for me because all i could hear was CLACK CLACK CLACK when i moved around. other than that it's great
Hi Phantom! I hear you on this. The drop ctrl Def has an "Amp" effect on the sound
Did holee mod on my stabs and I love it!
Also I'm glad there's some love for GP switches.
They're snappier than the HPs, just need to do a good lube job.
Yup! I always have a set of GP ready to go for a build :) Took a few tries to perfect the lubing on the GPs but once you get used to it, it does turn out to be great switches!
hopefully you’ll do a video on the KBD67 lite. anyways, nice video!!!!
Hi kuiini! I somehow missed the in stock when they had a bunch at divinikey :( I plan to do one when the R2 becomes more readily available!
Where are the adhesive vinyl foams from? I did not see those. Thank you!
Glorious Panda switches have a different top housing shape so even when north facing LEDs, they don’t interfere with cherry caps. It says this on their product page.
well I think it's more about the longer stem pole of the halo stem than the top housing shape though! but yeah I was about to mention the fact that holy panda (and it's variant) does not have any interference for north facing this was demonstrated by 3ildcat :)
Yup! The glorious pandas are a great option for North facing boards and cherry caps :)
@@justinfournier2521 yeah that might be it actually. I just remember reading something about no interference.
@@AtracBreezy yeah basically any switches with longer stem poles will not have interference! (ex if you put cream stems in alpacas they would not interfere with north facing)
NGL the ctrl looks clean but the price just ain’t worth it for the aesthetics alone
yeah i play sports baby, eSports (fuck yeah I spell it like that cus im a real gamer) !!!
Haha hi sviz! Yup! It counts right?
Never got those metal pieces in mine, weird
what keycaps are recommended for north-facing switches?
Just not cherry typically.
@@SmartFool24 so anything but cherry?
Typically for north-facing switches, you would go with OEM, SA, MT3, etc. Pretty much anything works except cherry profile, since cherry is shallower than most. However, I have also shown that certain switches and keycaps do a much better job of working together even in north-facing configuration!
@@Keybored alright thats great to hear thanks!
How does the epsi/holee mod stand up to the added lube on the wire? Adhesives don't tend to do well after coming in contact with grease so I'm concerned about the longevity of the mod
That is definitely a legitimate concern! I used a more "plastic" type of bandaid hoping to avoid this... Will see how it holds up after some time!
One of the main advantages mentioned by epsilon in his video is that you don't need to lube the end part of the wire, the film / bandages inside the stem will eliminate any clicking / pinging, you only need to lube the curved part that clips into the stabilizer.
"Most available" in the U.S.
so for the stabs they are holee modded right?
You are correct! It was a sneak preview of what's to come in a future video! Will be sharing ep2 of the quick tips and tricks!
@@Keybored how big a difference do you think it makes? using durock plate mount at the moment so I'm wondering if I should do it :)
"real hobby"
...
If I ever hear anyone say this, I'm probably going to start lecturing them
doesn't even have to relate to hobbies I enjoy
lol hobby can be anything that you find enjoyable
Why would you use the ridiculously expensive Drop when you can get the GMMK?
Once the gmmk pro becomes more readily available, that should be the more solid option!
Would these mods work and sound the same on the low profile version of the DROP CTRL?
Low pro is actually a bit different. A lot less space inside, so less ping but also less volume in general
Scott, do you prefer the vinyl foam over the black rubber foam? Just curious which is better. The black one appears to be a little bit denser.
I prefer the vinyl
Stupidfish foam brings it all together!
Yup! It really helped this keyboard out a lot!
ARE THOSE KEYCAPS COMPATIBLE WITH GATERON BROWNS ALSO DO THEY WORK WITH HOLY PANDAS ON THE EPOMAKER GK87 IS THERE ANY INTERFERANCE FOR NORTH FACING LED LIKE IN YOUR VIDEO ON THE GK87?
Hi Andrew! I believe these specific caps will have some interference issues with north facing switches. I did notice that the interference is worse in certain switch/keycap combinations, and unnoticeable in others. I had pretty good luck with the gateron yellows and long stem switches with many cherry profile caps in north facing configuration. However, the HK gaming caps, you can definitely feel that R3 is a bit odd, since the cap bottoms out, and "moves" due to the interference. Hope that helps
What would you say is the best top mount 60% option out there?
Hi An! Not sure how many top mounted 60s are out there these days. Everyone focused on making gasket mount options lately. Last one I played around with was a brutal60 from cannonkeys and I remember that was pretty nice. The TFV2 from Kbdfans wasn't bad either. Those do go in and out of stock if you keep an eye out. I remember walletburner industries was doing a IC on meso which is a TM 60 but don't know if that ever moved forward.
@@Keybored Hi Keybored! I have discovered your youtube channel for quite some time now but I really do have to say that I am blown away again and again. To me you are without a doubt the absolute sound king on youtube at the moment. Every board that you make just comes out sooo nice sounding. From tray mount to top mount to kinda meh gasket mounts like the d65, you make every board sound like the best I have ever heard. Keep it up, just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you.
@@TheMegabam5 Thank you so much for the kind comments An! I really appreciate that! I have a tendency to not be able to leave things alone so I tend to tinker with things a little too much lol. But I hope all this messing with the keyboard makes some great results, and I hope it provides some inspiration that most any of these keyboards, expensive or not can sound great! I have a gk61 and the new GK87 coming my way and will try to see what I can do to make these sub $100 keyboards as best as possible! Get more people to jump into the hobby :)
these skits are A1 material. Keep it going!
Really appreciated that you used holee dude!
It turned out great! Between Holee and Epsi, I think we can look at how to improve the stabs in the future!
keybored: "hey you can never have too much foam"
me: "aktually"
Lol me loves me that foam!
I hate that you have to do all these mods just to reduce rattle and fitting. When do we get to demand manufacturers fix this instead? Both in the case design and switch design.
I hope as the competition gets more fierce more and more will take notice and improve their products! I'm planning to do a $150-$200 keyboard round up and I'm surprised at how many good options there are now that are actually going to be available to purchase! What is going on with this hobby! Lol
F O A M
Yup! And the stupidfish stuff was great!
damn that sounds good. that is way better than I was expecting for a drop board.
Thank you michael! The drop boards do require a bit of work to get them right, but I believe with a bit of effort, they do have some potential!
Keybored: hits the keys on the keyboard
Subtitles: *applause*
hahaha yeah I did notice that... so wild
Inb4 a vendor with the name cult.key pops up
lol I better get to trademarking it!
T H O C C
Surprising that this sound comes from a DROP board no? :)
@@Keybored yah I have the same board and it doesnt sound this good
What company is that cable from?
Hi 17 ARTISTS! The cable was made DIY using parts from cruzctrl and zap!
What linear switches you would recommend for that board? I want me some Linears. LOL
I recommend everglide tourmaline blue or Sp-star whites. They both sound good stock and feel great.
Gateron ks3 yellows are always a good choice
These are all great choices! I have been enjoying the JWK linears (Tangies, Mauves, Lilacs, L4, etc.) as well as the new durock POM. Gateron Ink Blacks are amazing also, and so are the gateron yellows! But keep in mind the northfacing nature of this board, and some of these switches may have some interference with the cherry profile caps
What do you guys think about the Everglide Aqua Kings?
@@DRacer90 possibly overrated and hence, hard to find.
Considering it's price, it's a hell of a good sounding board! Nice build
Thank you so much Bark Industry! The drop keyboards do take a bit of work to get the right, but I feel they do have some good potential!
Where'd you find that macintosh esc key?
Hi James! That artisan keycap was from DROP!
I love the name Stupid Fish
Haha, and their logo as well!
where can i buy flesh cutters widepeepogrin
Haha, the flesh cutter store. ;)
I did not know you were asian! Hehe
Haha, I sure am!
I’m trying to build a budget custom keyboard, what’s your opinion on the MXRSKEY 84U barebones with Gateron yellows and some pudding keycaps maybe for under a 100 dollars?
I don't have personal experience with that specific keyboard, but looks like a good start! 75% layout and you can never go wrong with the gateron yellows... so good when lubed and filmed!
@@Keybored I was personally thinking about this coz it was convenient way for me to get into that whole thing for only around 85 dollars.
Was still thinking either or not should I do it, only because of the reason that I have HyperX Alloy origins core, is made out of aluminium but I’ve heard it’s kinda hard to mod. Should one is better to choose
Just got one of these.
> Oh! Did you know you can get custom die cut foam inserts?”
“Oh my god I need this. Yes $30 is practically free. Only consider costs over $100.”
:) I remember thinking a $75 keyboard was expensive before... now $150 keycaps doesn't even seem crazy anymore... It's a problem lol
underrated channel. your edits are to the point and voice over are top notch.
imo the best thing about the ctrl is that drop is able to keep it in stock ready to ship anytime.
compared to the next best thing like something in stock but takes two + weeks to ship from china (and drop does have no question asked 30 days return policy which is crazy as they dont have deep pockets like amazon)
the 2nd best thing is the PCB's very capable ARM controller which allows you to turn on every single QMK features and enables 10000+ keystroke macros if you want.
if the pcb supports 5 pins switches, I think the overall package does justify the $200 price.
when GMMK managed to get their inventory always in stock, the GMMK PRO will unseat ctrl for sure. hopefully drop can up their game in the next iteration.
Thank you so much C Xu! Yup the advantage of the drop is the availability :) also has one of the best rgb capabilities of that is important. I just built a few gmmk pros and they are very nice with some tweaks! Video will be posted this week!
Was that a Holee mod teaser?! Nice video Scott!
Good seeing you SHCTeva! Indeed it was! Will be covering the mod in a video coming soon! Thank you for stopping by!
i got the arctic version of this what keycaps would look nice? for about 50$
If you're using a long stem switch like a panda, then you can go with a set of hk gaming pbt caps in bow or another lighter color scheme. Or you can also look at the gpbt caps as well. Both of those should fit that price range!
@@Keybored ok thanks also I’m going to use alpacas.How do I make them as thoccy as possible?
Can I buy this keyboard from you? Honestly haha that would be so cool... I’m using a razor green switch and this is literally exactly what I’m looking for.
:) Hi K K! The keyboard was a build for someone, and has a home :)
I thought band aid mods go on the pcb not around the plate
You are correct huge galaxy brain! I have a tendency to call anything with bandaids "bandaid mod" lol. But the "official" bandaid mod is when you cut out a small piece and put it under where the stabilizer stem hits the PCB to soften the bottom out :)
Thanks for this! I don't like the CTRL because of the sound. Thanks for the tip I immediately ordered a bunch of foam from Stupid Fish.
:) I hope the foam helps!
Damn, actual RE4 Leon hair 👀
Haha
This sounded so good! Excited for the holee mod tutorial video
Hi Charles! Thank you so much! Please see the latest video on the stabilizer mods! ruclips.net/video/BxDLeyXZWeI/видео.html
@@Keybored Hey, thank you! I've got my notification on and have watched it already. I'll follow your in-depth guide to it for my current rattly spacebar lol. Thanks!
Thumbnail of this video was helpful, I been wanting to buy this, I just had no idea if there was the little rgb strip at the bottom, Least I can turn it off
Yup! You can turn off the strip or the per key or both! Thank you for watching and I'm glad it was helpful!
A lot of people shit on the Drop keyboards but I think they have a lot of great features and are good for the hobby in general. I'd be excited to see a version 2 for the ctrl. alt. and shift with pcb mount stabs, south facing switch orientation, and maybe even a different mounting system.
I feel its kind of like the same people shitting on the GMMK pro for offering a lot of higher end features(not all implemented well) on a really affordable and available board. If they could fix their plates, tweak the "gasket mount," and either get rid of the GOAT stabs or properly lube them, then it would be a really great board for a really great price.
Good job making that Ctrl look and sound great!
Thank you so much! I do hear you in the criticisms! The hobby itself is pretty critical on many board designs. Hopefully constructive criticisms can help move the hobby along forward, but some do just like to troll for fun lol
Metal pieces are for magnets. You can attach keyboards legs that are magnetic.
Thank you!
@@Keybored no problem, can you give me advice on where to buy the foam in eu? I couln't find it.
Hexgears Gemini is identical to Drop CTRL low profile for cheaper if anyone doesn't want high profile.
Thanks for the suggestion Lee!
about the north facing led interference with cherry profile keycaps apparently if you use switches with long stem such as HPs/GPs/Dark jade etc.. you won't have any interferences
This right here! Good advice gz!
i have the blue happy face artisan keycap
:) The artisan was a great finishing touch to this keyboard for sure! Love that it glows with the RGB underneath!
Really, the Drop keyboards require the Stupidfish foam otherwise it sounds like someone is ringing a bell every time you type!
The Stupid Fish foam really helped to transform this keyboard!
i bought the lopro version back in august last year.
here some things that i don't like at all about the board:
north facing switches (so no banger GMK sets for this bad boy)
3pin sockets (so you either have to buy 3pin switches or clip the legs)
for the qmk i'm not sure. last time i checked drop didn't release the qmk toolkit so you couldn't address the rbg leds on the edge.
I think as of late, some of the switches even in north facing configuration started to work with cherry profile like GMK! I did a quick study on this on my GK87 modding video!
I just joined my first groupbuy and didn't realize I wouldn't be seeing the product until like a year later. As a consumer spoiled by instant gratification, my heart is hurting a little bit.
Haha, the truth about this hobby!
does this work for the drop ctlr low profile?
Hi Joshua! I believe stupidfish also makes the foam set for the low profile as well!
Actually kind of upset this got released recently in high profile setting. I bought the alt high profile about 2 months ago and then saw this thing recently be released. i would've much prefered the TKL setting since I play WoW mostly and extra buttons are helpful. I don't see myself dropping another $300 though on this since im waiting for Q2 for the GMMK Pro
Hi Phillip! The gmmk pro should be a great keyboard! I have a few on order and will be doing a build/mod/review video on it as soon as it arrives! Hope it gets here this week!
Yo, someone who plays overwatch. I knew I had subscribed to the right channel
Haha thanks for the sub! I appreciate it! I suck so much at overwatch tho haha
What is your deskmat?
Hi benni! It's a Ktrio extended mat/mouse pad! Just simple, but the size works for me well :) amzn.to/2QX6Had
@@Keybored thank you!
What kind of USB cable works for the CTRL? I've read something about the length but not sure
Hi Hector! The CTRL and ALT requires a more power than other keyboards, and from what I know, the overall length of the cable must be under 9ft or so!
@@Keybored thanks! Where do you buy your cable?
@@hectorsabillon1737 I built them diy with parts from cruz ctrl and zap!
@@Keybored wow awesome! Not sure I can do a DIY 😅
This guy is like your cool uncle.
Haha I'm not that old! But I'll take it as a complement!
Got dam that sounds glorious.
:) Glorious Panda. No pun intended!
What colorway hk gaming keycaps are these? I can't find this specific one under the Amazon link, but I absolutely love the colors.
Hi Angel Games! The colorway is muted. Looks a little odd in their product photos, but looks nicer in person!
You wish that was the band aid mod.
:) Everything involving bandaid is a bandaid mod to me. But I do get what you're saying about the bandaid under the stab stem :)
This Spacebar ... !! WOW
:) I think stabilizer tuning is both art and science... sometimes I get it so perfect on a keyboard, and I can never remove it again because I won't be able to replicate that exactly again lol...