Don't Throw Away Your Gateron Browns... Turn them into CREAMERONS! Tutorial and Typing on KBD D65
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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There comes a point in a custom keyboard aficionado's life, when you graduate from the stock Gateron Browns that came with your first mechanical keyboard. But what to do with a perfectly working sample of Gateron Browns? These almost linear-tactiles - "Lacktiles" are not that great out of the gate, but they do posses a lower housing that happens to work great when paired with another switch... the NK Cream Linears.
The result is an interestingly clacky linear switch, that is smoother than a NK Cream, but with its own distinct feel and sound. They produce a sound that is almost like shaking a rattle can of spray paint, or even a tiny little crab walking across the table.
Hope this tutorial helps you understand the process of creating one of these, and if you enjoy the sound, you too can save a batch of Gateron Browns (or almost any Gateron Switch for that matter) from their untimely demise!
Hope you enjoy the video!
KBDFANS D65 Aluminum - E-White
Full Brass Plate + KBD67 MK II Hot-Swap RGB PCB
Foam: KBDFANS KBD67 MK II Pre-Cut Case + Plate
Creameron + TX 65G L Spring + KEBO films + Krytox 205G0
Keycaps: PBT Double-Shot Olivia Clones
Stabilizers: Durock V2 Screw-In + Krytox 205g0 + Permatex
Shot on Sony A7 III + Sony FE35mm F1.8 and Fifine Condenser Mic
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Keyboard - KBDfans D65 E-White
Switch Opener - KBDfans Aluminum Switch Opener
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0:25 I'd have ended the video there
U should at least skip to 5:00 for the typing test. They sound amazing
Hi Glarses! Appreciate you stopping by! Haha, I know how you feel about the browns. I wonder if more lube on browns will just turn them into linears...
@@Keybored tried it before, it didn't rly turn em into complete linears, more like linear with hiccup (legs lubed too)
@@OwO-dw8ox hi OwO! That is very interesting that yours didn't turn out full linear!
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Put them into a halo housing to create "Holy Shits"
Edit: Why are people liking this comment, it isn't even my joke lmao
I haven't laughed that hard at a youtube comment in a while.
found on r/mk
Ahahah i'm dying!
LMAO
dont say that
Underrated channel. Can’t believe I’m so late.
Thank you so much for dropping by! I appreciate the comment, and love your channel!
Really is I love watching this guy. He has a great 17$ custom cable video which is game changing imo. Your work aint bad it self though no pun intended.
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This channel is actually so underrated, great content man!
Hi Jacob Yun! Thank you so much for the comment! I have more content planned soon so stay tuned!
Am saying the same thing I thought he would have 100k at least for the quality of the vid but 1k I have never seen a man so underrated
Plot twist: he just wanted to show how clean his toilet is
wait... ur toilet isnt clean?
I think I might like the sound of these more than the creams. I think you're spot on, shaking a can of spray paint and it's so satisfying. Idk if im gonna make them, but thanks for the info for the future!
No problem Vincent!
@@Keybored instead of brown, would they work on gateron (optical) yellows aswell
No, since the opticals are magnetic@@txchno_mango
@@RockAlloy oh ok
Very cool project! Keep it up!
Hi Hipyo Tech! Thank you for the encouragement, I appreciate it! Love your channel as well!
i thought the title said: “Don’t turn throw away your Gateron browns... turn them into CREAMER”
Hi Franklin! It would be a very interesting creamer indeed!
These actually sound so good. Im torn between being too lazy to desolder my creams and mod them and having them sound similar to this. Underrated video
Hi Grabbestei! Haha I hear you. But I love a batch of nice NK Creams also. Mine were just a bit messed up so I had to desolder them out... Gave me the perfect reason to convert them to this!
Summing up: Don't throw your brown away, keep their housing and use the stem and top house of the cream, with cherry springs.
Hi Cactus! Thank you for watching and the summary!
I would actually keep the Gateron springs personally, I like the 55g springs of the Browns a lot for some reason
These sound lovely, it would have been nice to have a normal sound test of the creams for reference though.
Hi INTR1NSIC! Thank you for your comments! Will keep that in mind for the future!
Bruh the sound is a clack and a thock at the same time
thoccy clacks are the best
Clocks
I don’t really know much about keyboards but I enjoy watching these.
Hi Vail Caspyr_! Thank you for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed this keyboard! I really love the unique sound these switches make.
I made a Frankenswitch between Durock L5 linear and Gateron Oil Kings. Used the bottom housing and leaf from the Durock, then used the upper housing, stem, and spring from the Oil Kings. Resulted in a fast-actuating, smooth, heavy, deep-sounding switch with muted RGB.
The sound is insane, and I don't even like high pitched linears
Thank you UnatMar! I appreciate your comments!
I hand-lubed my outemu brown switches since they were a spare set lying around , but man, I've never heard such a huge change in sound profile, super creamy while being cheap
"do i just throw them away^ because they are brown", I love this quote
brown switches are good. what you mean ?
@@ashoc0 the racist side of the joke
@@inf_phoenix6317 of course you had to bring race into it
@@johncapodilupo6876 oh my... im gonna say it once: IT WAS A JOKE
@@johncapodilupo6876 Its a joke
This is the most lubed-sounding unlubed switch
Hi PTSDthiccestboi! Haha these are lubed and filmed. Sorry I didn't show the lubing during the assembly, but the switches were lubed previously so I just used them as is. Hope that helps!
Oof
@@mangosnap1213 Sorry!
@@Keybored Dont worry lol your good,
good content
Remember me when this blows up...
@Giovanni Gigantino actually I chatted a few times in discord with him. And maybe I suggested some ideas for his vids.
Everyone else: talking about the sound and good content
Me: *jamming out to the music*
:)
This channel is so underrated 😱
Hi Behind! Thank you so much! I appreciate your comments!
I was skeptical but these sound great
Thanks Chris! A good way to use gat browns or similar take offs!
you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention
:) Thanks! Hope the videos are helpful and entertaining!
When you get famous, just remember i was here at 400 subs
Hi A.B! Haha, if that ever happens, it was because of all the support from you guys!
@@Keybored me too ;)
@@MasoHQlC5GW5btFZ Thank you for the support!
Currently at 8,000+!
They sound incredible.
Thank you so much Ire!
phew. these are a bit too loud for my ears. but each to his own
Saw this video literally hours after buying my first board. No points for guessing which switches I chose.
:) Browns are OK! I actually do enjoy the Cap V2 browns :)
Love these f*coin tutorials man, holy keep this up
Thanks for watching and for the comments! Will have more content coming soon!
maybe im a weird one, but i combine holy panda with gateron blue bottom housing, might be too tactile so need to lube the leg
the result was more tactile/snappier holy panda with lots of the bottom out range remove, sound quieter and deeper too
Hi saya! What I love about keyboard modding is that there is no real right or wrong way. I'm glad you found that perfect balance you were looking for!
Didn’t expect you to have only 1k subs. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for your comments brownyee! Stay tuned for more content in the future!
thanks so much this was genius i used them on my gk61 it was so goooooood, thanks so much imma give u a sub u deserve it
Thank you so much for the sub! I really appreciate it! :)
I tried lubbing and filming i put it on my tofu 65 its sounds super poppy tyx for the tip
How do you think yellows would sound in the cream housing thinking the name could be „banana cream“ or something like that
That would be pretty interesting! I assume slightly scratchy tho... The NK cream housing needs some breaking in :)
I changed my gateron brown optical switches to linears by removing the leaf that adds tactility, they're basically reds now but a touch heavier which is perfect for me I was wanting a linear inbetween reds and blacks (i know they do yellows but the yellow gat opticals are 35g not 50g) with optical they linears don't have a leaf so I saved myself buying a lot of 70 lol.
So essentially just yeet the browns out and use different springs. Got it!
lol. You can also use the top of the creams!
!!!!!!!!!HOW DARE YOU THROW AWAY BROWN SWITCHES THE SECOND BEST SWITCHES BEHIND BLUES. THEY SHOULD BE CHERISHED AND NOT THROWN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!
:) I will get a custom box made for them so they can live in there peacefully forever :) Just need to keep them away from Glarses so he doesn't catapult them out the window :)
Congrats for creating Clacky Switches, a whole new category lmao
Haha thank you! I actually really love how this switch sounds. It's so bright with a fun pop that I keep going back to this keyboard :)
In animal crossbreeding etymology, the starting section of the new name will be the stating section of the male that produced it and rest will be female. Male polar + Female grizzly = Pizzly and vice versa is Golar.
I'd say the bottom housing is the majority of the volume taken up of the switch so id call them GateCreams.
:) Thanks for the feedback
@@Keyboredlmao it was more of a joke
i never thought i would be ordering gateron browns.....
Oh no! What have I done!
I achieved better sound on my KB by using a mix of Krytox 205 and 105 lube on the switches. BTW you don't need to film the switches because the NKCs top housing is pretty tight so it doesn't make any big difference.
Thank you for that suggestion Minx2525! Will try that out!
How would the sound profile and feel change if you used the black gateron housings rather than the white ones found in the pro switch?
Also a top notch video.
You should've called them "CROWNS", Browns + Creams
So many names we can give this :)
I thought you were just a mad lad for doing this but damn they actually sound so fire! I have a bunch of browns I dont use but guess I have an idea now.
Hi Beethoven! Thank you for your comments! I'm glad it was helpful!
can i request it to do also these with Cherry brown... coz i do have them and i like the sound of creams
I think you'll get a similar impact, since the cream stems are longer and make more clack than the standard cherrys!
Hey Keybored great video, what are your thoughts on lubed gateron reds? Can you try to make a good reds build? Love to see it!
That sound! I also love the keycaps. I’ve had G-MKY Olivia clones in my wish list for a while, and I got even more interested in them after your video. The white looks really crispy white, doesn’t it?
Hi Olga! The color is indeed very crisp white!
@@Keybored Thanks!
Omg my like changed the number of likes from 4.9k to 5k :D
Thank you!
why nobody even consider about lubing browns?
I've lubed outemu browns , and the result has been surprisingly good, the tactility turned out enhanced, spring noise toned out, and the overall feeling of it was creamy and satisfying, a completely different switch.
Hi Francesco! I have lubed and used browns. You're right, lubing them does improve!
Every keyboard enthusiast should talk more about it, i mean, why spending more, when you can just get a better experience by investing a bit of your patience and time, also it's a relaxing experience imo
I just discovered your channel, I'm gonna rush the subscribe button, nice quality and mood
@@MrStarpeto Thank you for the Sub Francesco!
Speaking of the Gateron Blue housings, you could totally fling some Halo stems into those and get Holy Gats. Sharper tactility than HP’s and less post-travel. Tho Gat blues with linear stems remind me of Invyr Panda linears, and not in a good way.
can I do this with my Gateron Browns? I wanted to make a Holy Gat but with light tactility
I don't understand this coiled cable ridiculousness. It's like putting fake air scoops on your car. They CAN look good but they do nothing but for performance, cost a crap ton of $ for what they are, and most of the time look like crap.
just gona drop my like real quick before this blows up, that sounds soooo nice.
Hi Breathing Debris! Thank you for watching and I really appreciate the comments! Stay tuned for more content in the future!
Great vid man! What keycaps are those? I know they're based on GMK Olivia but where did you get them?
Hi ChronicleZhang! I did a google search and then got them off aliexpress. The vendor name was g-mky I believe... I was curious to see how it would be, but turned out surprisingly OK! One day, I'll replace with the GMK when I can get my hands on a set that's not selling for 350+ lol
@@Keybored thanks dude! You're epic
0:40 ...what do you mean by that??
We have the same keycaps XD loved the video
Hi Feinn San! Thank you for the comments! The keycap colorway is just so nice... Love it!
Can u make more switch combination videos plzz
Hi wahida! I'll look into that! So many switches out there lately haga
Imagine a milky cream, milky red or black or yellow housing with the heavier spring and stem
That would be even better!
0:40 - 0:45 OY VEYY!!!!
:)
I think a better name for the version you made would be Vanilla Creams
how about the sound of the rest of the remainder of the parts
Will keep that in mind next time! I have the durock Pom switch review coming up and will include that!
oh yes, im getting a keyboard (keycron k2v2) and it can have g pro browns oh yes (tho i still want g pro reds)
Why would you do this tho? Gateron housings are pretty terrible in terms of contact noise, I guess people have preferences...
So I can throw away my cherry browns?
Hi Chet! If you got the black housing cherry browns, the top housing in those have great sound and can be used to supplement other switches! If you have a good batch overall and the bottoms are smooth, you can try this mod to see how it turns out. Hope that helps!
@@Keybored alright thanks !
When you get famous just remember I like muffins lol
Hi Xirozed! Haha will keep that in mind!
Can you mix creams with OPTICAL gaterons or they wouldnt match? Btw love the idea and the build.
Hi Mondsee! Unfortunately, the standard gateron and optical gateron have different structures and the components cannot be interchanged. Hope that helps!
@@Keybored and is it worth to change only the stem or it wouldnt affect the sound or even it wouldnt match too.
@@mondseee the stem change alone will definitely impact the sound. But I'm not quite sure of the mx stem will fit into an optical housing?
I think ill read more about optical switches structure and maybe try it, thank for all the responses.❤️❤️❤️
great video! The music did get annoying after about a minute
Thanks for watching! Will keep that in mind!
ah yes turning my already expensive keyboard DOUBLE THE PRICE
This is incredible, is there a reason why you aren't using with spring? I want to try this with a red gat pro!
I’d actually love to do this but I don’t have the time and don’t have to money to make custom keyboards or switches
It is definitely an interesting hobby!
I don't know why people treat gateron browns like they were Cherry MX Browns. Cmon, they are not that bad. MX Browns are much worse than Gateron Browns. I'm using a Gateron Brown lubed keyboard right now and it's nice.
Hi Catoflado! Gateron browns are definitely nicer than MX browns for sure. :)
if u use tactile gat switches would it feel slightly tactile since tactile leafs are made to make the overall switch more tactile?
Wow! They sound amazing!
Thank you Anderswan! I appreciate the comments!
sounds niiiiice, gj on this video
Thanks Shoobs! I appreciate it!
I know this is a late comment, but how would you say these compare in smoothness to other popular linears? Also, does it get the shorter travel distance from the Cream's long stem pole?
Hi PugLorde! The stems do make this a short travel switch. Also smoothness would be comparable to a gateron yellow I would say.
man you literally turned virgin tactiles into chad linears. great work
:) I love the sound of these switches! Makes me happy every time I type on them
@@Keybored Wow someone actually answered!
*reads name*
HOLY SHIT
I liked Outemu brown feeling but idk about the gateron browns. And I ain’t paying £20 for a switch tester.
Gateron browns like Cherry MX Browns are pretty light. Cherry MX browns, are probably the scratchiest of them all, gat browns are smoother, but sound is so so. Cap browns are still very light tactility, but the smoothness and sound is much nicer!
sound test 4:41 but dont skip pls watch the whole video:}
Thanks Pain!
@@Keybored :OO omggggg ywww!!!!
I'm watching this video while making frakenswitches out of akko silvers and akko ocean blues, or a Silver Ocean
:) Creative name!
Sorry, I'm pretty new to all this...what's wrong with browns? I think they feel by far the best. I can't stand the way linear switches feel.
Hi Derek! There is nothing wrong with browns. However, if you are looking for something a bit more tactile, there also are many options available!
@@Keybored I just bought a Moonlander Mark I with Kailh coppers, which I'm pretty in love with. I'm still interested in why the community doesn't like browns in particular though. Is that only Cherry MX browns or all browns?
Would you be able to white and clear housing and then just add a stem from another switch? Would it sound the same?
Yeah the sound would be similar, except the top out may be a bit different. The stem would have to be a long pole like the ones from the NK Cream
don't throw away brown switches, keep using them.
They sound good-a little higher pitched than I'd like. I think I actually prefer the sound of the creams as-is-but then, as much as I like the sound, I just type faster on a tactile switch. Honestly if I haven't got anyone else to annoy, I kind of like a clicky switch like a tuned Kailh BOX Pink … but no amount of tuning seems to keep those things from ghosting after about six months. Disappointed.
Currently driving some Akko jelly pink switches. Better than I expected.
I only have a single Gateron optical brown....
You're more advanced than the rest of us!
Bet this would be even more dank with a gateron KS-3
0:36 this can come out of context
Holy shit! Sounds incredible!!!
Hi Kim H! Thank you very much for your comments!
I don’t get why people hate browns so much
I must be in the minority but I adore my Gateron Browns
Nothing wrong with gateron browns! They're a bit light on tactility, but lately, I've been getting pretty fatigued by the super tactiles switches. I've been going back and forth between tactiles and linears to balance it out lol.
Creamerons sound great! Looking forward to more of your frankenswitch combos.
Thank you keyverse! I have me a batch of durock pom switches and I plan to play around with this housing for some interesting combos!
This frankenswitch is like when the nerd in the class starts dating the popular girl
My gawd I just listened to other sound tests of other linears and these just hit the spot. I'm more of a holy panda kinda guy, but damn I might have to make these
Hi Vincent! So glad that you like the sound! The sound of these are unique and I've been really enjoying these as a daily driver! It reminds me why I got into this hobby in the first place.
Can I do anything with Gateron Blues other than throw them in the trash?
If you like clickies, gat blues are fine as they are!
can i do it with like ktt kang white housing it looks the same idk
I cant help but noticed that the bottom of the creams that it is 3 pin and 5 pin. Was there a purpose of the clipped legs? Or where they switches from another board that required 3 pins.
It was originally in a DROP board and needed the pins cut :(
this keyboard video made from keybored is making me kinda bored because the amount of boards are boring me since the keyboard is made by keybored making me bored.
I did something similar, put gat yellow springs and stems in cream housings with films and a timy bit of lube (on spring and leaf) called em lemonchellos
Haha, how did they turn out?
Why do ppl hate brown switch n other tactiles they're literal cheatcodes for good sound
Who the fuck throws the switches into your toilet bin wtf
Holy shit, those switches perfectly matched taeha's built keyboard for tfue. Might as well try this
:) They sound very unique. I think these are the clackiest switches I have tried so far
How does the TX long spring compare to the TX short spring at the same weight?
Hi Brandon! The long one has more potential energy at top, and helps the switch feel much tighter and a bit "heavier" Vs. the shorter spring of the same weight! After I tried out the long versions, they became my favorite for linear switches now!
I found like 3 different types of gateron browns and can’t find the ones in the video
Hi Mxsk! The ones I used are take offs from a keychron :)
wait all you did was change the spring of the NK creams...
And used Gateron bottoms. Much smoother, but more high pitched!