The standard you quoted, to which these gloves conform (EN 13594:2015), in fact assesses the *entire* glove, not merely the knuckle protection. Abrasion resistance, tear strength, seam strength, sizing, dexterity and innocuousness (no chemicals present in the materials which are potentially harmful to human health) comprise the majority of the tests. The dexterity assessment involves picking up small pins whilst wearing gloves; a standardised test with relevance to the operation of controls on a motorcycle.
60 mile daily commute on the Vstrom all weathers, bar muffs, heated grips and summer gloves. Toasty and dry hands always, remove the muffs in spring. A million despatch riders can't be wrong :)
I agree, it's just the looks I can't be doing with - but for sure that's the best way if you're serious about your cold weather biking (ie have a commute or whatever)...
Another great vid! I dont know if you know but keis gloves also link up with the jacket and pants. Then all you do is use an external power controller from keis to control your whole body or you can control individual garments. They also have heated inner soles for your boots that also link up into your pants and jacket. I done the NC500 last year around March time, it was around 8 to 10 hours riding a day as we only had 4 days to see everything. We were camping too. I had my keis under jacket and pants on the whole time and even though it was icey out I was sweating riding the bike, the green setting was more than enough. I used them hard wired to the bike using the oxford charger whilst the USB port charged up the keis battery pack for night time in the camp!! Perfect! The previous model keis gloves were inner gloves I seem to remember so they were no good to me and I never purchased them. Thses look much better. Tha is for another professional review
How does the power controller work because i have to turn each item on individually and the temperature individually and they are all connected to the jacket?
I've recently splashed out on a pair of Rst Paragon Thermotech heated gloves and highly recommend them. Rechargeable lithium polymer batteries so no wires or cables, very comfortable and warm, with protection on the knuckles and the batteries last a good long time (about 4 hrs in the low setting, which is normally plenty warm enough). Like the battery powered ones you tried, they are a little bulky around the cuff, where the battery is placed, but I wear them with a couple of different jackets and it's never been a real problem. Another useful review thanks.
Following your review of the Goldtop gloves a few video's ago, I bought a pair of their Merino wool lined Cruiser gloves for £57 including their water repellent balm and postage..! They're a great pair of gloves and on really cold days I also wear silk glove liners. On my last ride out it was 3c but they kept my hands really comfortable and warm.
Very timely as our 'winter' is coming soon! These Keis gloves look good so I will look out for them. Sydney never actually gets cold enough to bother with heated gloves but I do like to ride up into the mountains in winter, or down to Canberra and it really does get cold there at night and early morning. Until now I have found those salt heat packs with catalyst disc inside great for keeping the core temperature up on very cold rides, but only last about 60-90 minutes.
Honest review, and you've pointed out what a lot of people have said about Keis and the lack of heating to the fingers, palms, etc. 👍 I've used Gerbing XRS-12 for the past three winters and I find them excellent, with heat throughout the glove, including the tips of my fingers. It has 4 heat settings and I've only ever needed the first three, even in sub zero temperatures. Suggest you give these a try. I have absolutely NO connection with Gerbing.
Another excellent review, TMF. For those on a lower budget and cannot afford £190, try the Keis heated inner gloves - £60 from SportsBikeShop. You can use these with any of your gloves, although it's worth getting a pair that's a size larger, as the inners are a little bulky. They don't have a heat controller, but they are fine for me. And if you have more than one bike, you can buy additional leads for battery connection.
I got the Keis heated jacket 80 mile round trip at -4 on medium setting very toasty and warm there products are brilliant well worth the money and if you use muffs as well then you hands will be warm all day night long yes they look rubbish but better than cold hands any day cheers for the review All the best Pete
Oxford heated grips on full power get up to approximately the surface temperature of the sun. I reckon a pair of these heated gloves coupled with heated grips would do the job nicely. Thanks TMF, you cover the practical items other vloggers don’t reach!
Great review as always....think I’ll finally take the plunge and part with some of my “hard earned” for a set of heated gloves....hopefully you had a decent ride home from the home of triumph...keep up the great reviews, many thanks
Nice review. Being a year round commuter I am an absolute gear nerd, I have spent years and a bucketload of cash finding the stuff that works, If I was a vlogger I would treat the biking world to the benefit of my experience, I could bore people for hours. In terms of heated kit like everything else depends what you want it for and how you use it, I couldn't be arsed to charge my kit every couple of days. I only have 2 bikes and both have a power port, as you mention you really need both heated grips and gloves, they work really well in conjunction with each other, personally I love my Gerbing XRS-12's, they have short cuffs and do seem to heat to the tips of my fingers, I am fine down to -5C, maybe its just me but why are most gloves gauntlets, it doesn't matter if they are waterproof as the water runs straight down your arms and straight into your gloves, my opinion - short gloves between the double cuffs of your Rukka.
Another great review. I’ve tried these gloves on and I love the fit and feel. At the mo I’ve used my Gerbing G-12 past 2 winters. There fantastic although a little cumbersome. The keys G501 feel great 👍🏻
Been there too mr Flyer. But good of you to share your experiences! I have had one pair of Triumph gloves. The battery in the jacketpocket, leads through the sleeves and a nightmare to wear. The connector fell off and the fingers all cold. Another pair (sorry, can't remember the name, red and black with the same type switch as the Keis) with batteries in the calves. So heavy! Warm backside of the hands, cold fingers. None of them better than heated grips. So I'll stay with them! :-)
I had the Gerbings for years but the cord was a PITA, between the gloves, the jacket liner and the bike. The gloves were warm but not tactile to the controls. Last year when I bought the Ultra Classic the H-D shop had the Tourmaster Synergy rechargeable brand heated gear and I bought the gloves and the liner/jacket. The lack of knuckle armor would be my only negative on them but the warmth and battery life is excellent. That being said, on a 9 hour trip I am conservative with the heat setting, but hey lasted for the trip with the first four hours being in the 40degree F range. Supposedly, this year Tourmaster is adding the capacity to plug them into your bike or use the batteries. I like the battery only function for the daily commute as it is only about 20 minutes for me but I'll have to go back to the cord for those uber-long rides.
Great review 👍 I used to have the Keis inner gloves that ran off bike or battery, found it a faff to feed leads through jacket, and the leads used to disconnect from gloves. I use RST heated gloves with battery in the cuff - last hours, hot as hell and v comfortable, no hassle, good price - only problem is lack of decent armour.
Hi TMF, I have used RST Thermotech last 4 winters, pretty much same except I never have needed full power and have same three heat modes, however no leads needed as batteries go on the gloves and on low power I get 4.5hrs of heat. Pretty same when riding in rain for hours but I have never had cold fingertips. No knuckle armour though. Top two things that stand out for me then the battery life better and no leads up your arms.
Try the new RST Paragon Thermotech gloves. All the good bits of the old ones but with better batteries, neater switch and most importantly, armour on the knuckles. I'm really pleased with mine and I think they're the same price as the old ones.
Great review thank you. It astounds me that Keis are selling a heated glove for this price which doesn’t heat the whole hand! I’ll stick to my Gerbing XR12s they work properly - all over heat and waterproof.
I've got heated grips I.c.w. winter gloves. Warm enough for me most of the time. Heated grips are always available, you can't forget to take them with you. Plan some more coffee stops to stay/get warm. If you still got cold hands, buy some very thin silk gloves to wear inside your other gloves. Be carefull with electric gloves which are connected to the power supply of your bike. You might need a bigger fuse and even then the accumulator might get dammaged If it isn't made for those amounts of power needed. Those battery packs are very useful for your action cam and microphone.
They don't sell those on our side of the pond. The company that makes my heated jacket liner uses that same type of built in heat controller. I decided to check out their gloves but unlike the jacket liner their gloves are not rated well. Many people complained of them not working out of the box or many that quit working in less than a year. I decided to order a set of Firstgear carbon heated gloves instead. (rebranded Warm & Safe) You need to use a controller with them however, so by the time I ordered the accessories to go with the gloves the order got rather costly. With heated gloves and the heated grips on my bike my hands should stay nice and toasty. The older I get the worse my arthritis gets so the extra heat on freezing cold days will be welcome.
I use Keis heated jacket and inner soles with no complaints. But couldn't get on with the X800 gloves. Had three different pairs and found the heating elements would dig into my fingers. So instead I've gone with heated grips and hand guards No idea if these new gloves will be any better but a great review.
@@phantombigballs8165 You know what, that is my contention exactly, heated grips, would be nice, but it's the backs of the fingers that suffer, and fingers matter... : ) I just dropped a lengthy comment on this exact issue, so right bro..
I haven't tried them myself (yet), but after a bit of net research Rev'it Taurus GTX gloves are supposed to be excellent winter gloves for 80% of the weather. For the other 20% adding the Keis inner heated gloves seem to be a good match. As I said I haven't tried this set up yet, but when I upgrade my kit next year I'm going to try it out.
Thanks for the review, TMF. That looks like a definite buy for next season. This one, I've just been coping with undergloves, which aren't perfect, but do help a bit.
Nice review TMF. Certainly worth looking into a pair I think. Handguards certainly help with windchill, and indeed rain. Not a big fan of heated grips, so shame they don't heat the palms. It's the fingers you need heated anyway.
Good review TMF, Keis products are pretty good. I'm using their heated inner gloves combined with Oxford heated grips...perfect!. Definitely getting the Keis heated bodywarmer next, keeping your core warm makes a big difference on a long ride. Cheers, Steve
Hi tmf great review, the only pain i find is when you stop at a petrol station you plug back in then you have to turn on each item back on again, wish they had a short term memory so when you plug back to bike it remembers your last settings. my gloves burn the backs of my hands on full power even at minus four and my speedys dash was screaming Danger Will Robinson Danger.🤖
A helpful review that. Although I rarely venture out into the cold I have considered these for those occasional chilly days as I already have the (brilliant) Kieis heated waistcoat and the gloves would just plug into that and feed from the bikes battery together. The only thing that concerns me (other than the expense) is that these gloves have no heating element in the palms. I think it is somewhat of a compromise and sort of dictates that one has heated grips as well. A shame as I'm sure they could have an element in the palms and under the fingers that ran at perhaps half the heat that the backs of the hands perform at. I have one bike with heated grips, but ironically it's the sportiest/fastest/least comfortable and therefor the least suitable for the cold months. First world problems eh...
I agree with Matt Nicholas below, the Gerbing XRS-12 short cuff gauntlet gloves seem to be a plus in all the areas you have a problem with these Keis gloves. :: I can't use them on full power because they're too hot. :: I use them for 4 hours in one commute to and from work in the cold and driving rain. They stay very dry and my fingertips are warm. :: In the rain, I still don't require full power :: the final plus is that they are not as expensive as the KEIS gloves and many dealers do great sales. I had the Keis G501's on test before I bought the Genrbing gloves and the huge cuffs and side mounted sockets were just too much of a pain to get inside my jacket cuff. As a result, trying them as you showed in your review outside the jacket, the rain gets into the inside of the glove when it pours down. Not a good thing and avoidable with the short Gerbing gloves. I have to note that the equivalent Gerbing battery powered gloves with a long cuff have the same issues and are more of a pain to get inside the jacket cuff to avoid rain getting in. On a final note, and one that I think is important, is whether the glove or one tip is mobile-friendly? Many riders these days use their waterproof mobile as their satnav with something like the quadlock as a mounting system. Does the Keis glove you have work with a mobile screen? Great review but not for me for the above reasons.
Hi mate, I've got a rukka nivala (double cuff) jacket. I'm between the the G502 and the new Gerbing XR (or XRL) - would use either with the glove cuff battery, as I don't want to be faffing around with cables and don't mind charging the gloves while I'm at work. Which one would you recommend? Which one would be best paired with my nivala jacket, given that the cuffs would be bulky due to the batteries? Thank you!!
In regard to the fit gloves tend to be quiet long in the fingers, I guess these follow the same route ? No slightly shorter versions ? Any shorter cuff version to easily wear under the jacket ?
Very useful. I’ve got heated grips on my T120 and the VStrom but I found that my finger tips and especially my thumb still remain cold. Which is the reason I don’t ride in winter (also the salt). But I wonder if these gloves in conjunction with heated grips would work. Have you ever tried Gerbing. They are supposed to be good too
Quality pear of Claw gloves is all you need. Heated Gloves are far to much Faff if your having to take them on and off regularly. Loving the daily videos. Cheers..
Thx. Finally someone mentioned the one thing I wanted to know. Do the elements continue to the fingertips? Really surprising to me that almost no reviewers think to mention what parts of the glove actually emit heat. So thanks! I have heated grips on both my bikes but long highway rides still chill my fingertips.
Were you just leaving the Triumph Factory? I recognise those roads as I only live round the corner. I will get a brew on next time haha. I've been contemplating getting some heated gloves. I've got heated grips on my Street Triple which certainly helps but the outside of the hands still get a good kicking.
Me Too, jacketliner and gloves, all weather comfort, they do break electrically, no matter how good your wiring constant jiggling will break internal connections, just send them back and they send you a new pair... fantastic
Great video :) - check out the RST Paragon Heated Gloves, they are nice and supple, not too bulky, and have heating down both sides of the finger and the ends. Battery pack only however, but quoting 240m on max and 265m medium.
Must he a good few recreational riders who think if it's cold enough for heated gloves and heated grips then perhaps it's too cold to be out riding, I don't subscribe to that myself but do worry about how many additional electrical items my bike's charging system can cope with which kind of puts me off adding more. Guess the external battery works but then like coms and gopro you have to remember to charge everything beforehand.
Been riding for 30 years in all weathers, £10 bar muffs and £15 ex display R&G heated grips. I now buy a £600 winter banger car. Can't be doing with ice, salt, rain and flooded roads this time of year.
That is interesting. Heated grips and muff the best I have found so far.. But I wonder how long it will be before someone sticks a heat exchanger under the bodywork with vents exiting the handguards? Water cooling means it's easy. Come on Honda or Bmw. Sort it out.. Good, comprehensive review tmf. Ta.
Hello Andy, I hope you and your family are all safe and healthy. I watch your videos and I learn from your experience and feedback, thanks very much! My question is have you tried Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Gloves, if so can you make a video of Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Clothing. I am aware that you have a video about Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Premium Jacket. Kind regards, Devrim Bölük
Are there any concerns with riding around with a large lithium ion battery, given they tend to explode or burn up when pierced, is it worth considering the safety aspect? Heated grips seem the far better option. What do you think?
Um?... I use a pair of Bering heated glove on my daily commute. 3 power setting and last approx. three hours run flat out, cost around 180 quid a year or so ago. Waterproof up to a point but after three or four hours on a motorway the wet stuff eventually gets through. To be fair, I,ve yet to find a glove that remains fully waterproof for more than a season... think the membrane does eventually break down with use. What I,m interested to know is there any difference apart from time obviously, in performance running them directly off the bike?
Does the batter power both gloves?. how does that work? you woulds need a connecting cable to also connect the gloves together. or is it two seperate batteries.. bit of a pain carrying two batteries around
I've got heated grips and hand guards, and my fingers are still pissing freezing. I'm going to buy ski/snowboarding gloves and give them a try. You'd think that they ought to be warm.
This is my bug bear...finger tips ...feel like I am riding through Stalingrad/ They simply need to design ones with finger tips in mind. Come on..someone, make 'em!
On my half hour commute, my fingertips can go numb with the cold when it’s close to zero degrees. If these don’t heat that area, not sure these will help.
Ditto, I just dropped a lengthy comment on this exact issue, so right bro.. Manufactureres do not seem to understand what really matters when it comes to keeping hands warm on a bike on the hwy.
nice looking gloves. I have keis inner gloves but never use them. They make it almost impossible to move your fingers when they’re inside normal gloves. Very warm though. I have their waist coat too and that’s really good. Very nearly bought muffs as I think they will be really effective. The bike season is short here but mostly very hot and I’m looking to cool down.
If you want heated gloves that heat around your fingers and have the option to use a battery stored in the glove, or can be plugged into the bike or there is an option to use a large powerbank that can be stored in your internal pocket..... Try the gerbing XR 12 gloves.
Hi tmf, you have not tried the Gerbing heated gloves. They have it all. Every finger has heat plus the thumb.the backs of your hands,and the palms are heated as well. I've had mine for 2yrs now and I love them.check them out, you won't be disappointed.
Riding most often on Canada’s east coast, heated gear is a must. How cold? Yesterday I put a pot of boiling water on the step and it froze so quickly the ice was warm. Hyperbole aside, we need headed gear. I just received Gerbing heated glove-liners but have yet to try them. However, they look light, fit well, slip into any of my existing gloves and aren’t too costly. It’s going to be at least a month before I get to use them so, if anyone has experience using them, I’d love a review.
try Gebbring gloves . i love mine , and the heating elements are guaranteed for life. my fingers go white when riding below 10 C and my fingers always stay warm, just dont put them on highest setting as it is too high for most people
@@daithimurphy1832 i am using the XR12 gloves now , they have a pocket in the cuff for a battery. only downside is the cuff is a little on the large side for getting my jacket cuffs over the gloves when its raining. But they have a range to suit everyone , including heated glove liners, fleece, pants and socks
The heated elements in the Keis gloves are guaranteed for life as well I found these way less stiff than the Gerbing ones so it was a no brainier for me really, and these still burn the tops of your hands on the highest setting so they definitely work 🤣
I find that fingertips are the worst victims of wind chill and they the palms and back of the hand don't affect rider concentration much. It's so painful when the fingertips are cold. I wish someone would make gloves which specifically warms up the fingertips or even putting a tripple layer of windbreaker or even non breathable fabric on the fingertips.
So, fun story... walking through Tesco just now and heard a familiar voice shouting "Hey Kids" I'm looking around thinking "he's a long way from home" then realised the last vid I watched was (for some reason) playing very loudly in my pocket. I had a few strange looks...but No publicity is bad publicity as they say!!!
My RST heated gloves are too thickly padded and make the controls difficult as you point out. However I'm having heated grips fitted to the Street RS at next service. Whats your opinion on hand guards on a Street Triple? I've seen a few on Yamaha MT's and they don't offend too much.
Hi TMF good review as usual keis stuff is excellent Adams comment below covers it I would agree with him completely. Get the vest and it will change your biking gear forever and British company I think
Best thing about muffs is gloves stay dry so much warmer so no need for heated gloves. If it's below 5' wearing thin mittens means the grips heat works perfectly.
Why don't they promote heated mittens? The heat loss would be less and you could tie them together with a piece of elastic threaded through the arms of your jacket lke we all had in the infants. Seriously though, as a skier like you, I always use mittens because of the better heat efficiency, and on the bike, apart from the thumbs, you don't really use your fingers independently so mittens would make more sense - there is room to put one of those heat patches in and off you go, cheaply - you would just have a rubber wart on the mitt to use a tft screen or flip your visor, not for Hells Angels though - just a thought .
TMF does the most practical and useful reviews. Never heard of these gloves, now on the list to check out. Thank you TMF!
Thank you Scott (as ever!)...
You do some of the most comprehensive reviews on RUclips. Thank you Sir!
Vids are coming thick n fast AND they're all really good. 10 points to Gryffindor
Thank you Nigel - just a little experiment with daily vlogs for a while....hope I'm not overdoing it!
Keep em coming @@TheMissendenFlyer
The standard you quoted, to which these gloves conform (EN 13594:2015), in fact assesses the *entire* glove, not merely the knuckle protection. Abrasion resistance, tear strength, seam strength, sizing, dexterity and innocuousness (no chemicals present in the materials which are potentially harmful to human health) comprise the majority of the tests.
The dexterity assessment involves picking up small pins whilst wearing gloves; a standardised test with relevance to the operation of controls on a motorcycle.
Better than I thought then! Cheers for that!
60 mile daily commute on the Vstrom all weathers, bar muffs, heated grips and summer gloves. Toasty and dry hands always, remove the muffs in spring. A million despatch riders can't be wrong :)
Yep and they're on the road up to 14 hours a day!
I agree, it's just the looks I can't be doing with - but for sure that's the best way if you're serious about your cold weather biking (ie have a commute or whatever)...
Any idea on which bar muffs to fit a GS ? Cheers.
I use the TucanoUrbano R363X ones on my Vstrom, they fit all bikes. You may have to remove your hand guards though on the GS.
@@WatermarquePaul thanks Paul, gentleman for replying.
Another great vid! I dont know if you know but keis gloves also link up with the jacket and pants. Then all you do is use an external power controller from keis to control your whole body or you can control individual garments. They also have heated inner soles for your boots that also link up into your pants and jacket. I done the NC500 last year around March time, it was around 8 to 10 hours riding a day as we only had 4 days to see everything. We were camping too. I had my keis under jacket and pants on the whole time and even though it was icey out I was sweating riding the bike, the green setting was more than enough. I used them hard wired to the bike using the oxford charger whilst the USB port charged up the keis battery pack for night time in the camp!! Perfect! The previous model keis gloves were inner gloves I seem to remember so they were no good to me and I never purchased them. Thses look much better. Tha is for another professional review
Yes I might see if I can get done of the heated clothing next season - great idea! Thanks for the feedback - TMF
How does the power controller work because i have to turn each item on individually and the temperature individually and they are all connected to the jacket?
Look good, I’m still enjoying my Weise ones after your recommendation 2 years ago, with heated grips just brill 👍🏻
I've recently splashed out on a pair of Rst Paragon Thermotech heated gloves and highly recommend them. Rechargeable lithium polymer batteries so no wires or cables, very comfortable and warm, with protection on the knuckles and the batteries last a good long time (about 4 hrs in the low setting, which is normally plenty warm enough). Like the battery powered ones you tried, they are a little bulky around the cuff, where the battery is placed, but I wear them with a couple of different jackets and it's never been a real problem. Another useful review thanks.
Following your review of the Goldtop gloves a few video's ago, I bought a pair of their Merino wool lined Cruiser gloves for £57 including their water repellent balm and postage..! They're a great pair of gloves and on really cold days I also wear silk glove liners. On my last ride out it was 3c but they kept my hands really comfortable and warm.
Glad you like 'em Nicholas - they're my go to gloves in the summer!
Hi TMF, have tried a few heated gloves over the years and now also have the Keis and definitely best I have found to date.
Glad we concur Dave!
G’day TMF, my you are a busy vlogger. Enjoying them all, cheers.
Glad you noticed Russ!
Very timely as our 'winter' is coming soon! These Keis gloves look good so I will look out for them. Sydney never actually gets cold enough to bother with heated gloves but I do like to ride up into the mountains in winter, or down to Canberra and it really does get cold there at night and early morning. Until now I have found those salt heat packs with catalyst disc inside great for keeping the core temperature up on very cold rides, but only last about 60-90 minutes.
Give 'em a try Chris - essential if you ride here in the winter.....
Honest review, and you've pointed out what a lot of people have said about Keis and the lack of heating to the fingers, palms, etc. 👍
I've used Gerbing XRS-12 for the past three winters and I find them excellent, with heat throughout the glove, including the tips of my fingers. It has 4 heat settings and I've only ever needed the first three, even in sub zero temperatures. Suggest you give these a try.
I have absolutely NO connection with Gerbing.
if you put them on highest setting you will have red marks on your hands were the elements are . deff too hot on high
Yet again another very informative video, this will save a lot of people buying the wrong gloves. Thank you for the time it takes to make this video.
Thank you for watching!
Another excellent review, TMF. For those on a lower budget and cannot afford £190, try the Keis heated inner gloves - £60 from SportsBikeShop. You can use these with any of your gloves, although it's worth getting a pair that's a size larger, as the inners are a little bulky. They don't have a heat controller, but they are fine for me. And if you have more than one bike, you can buy additional leads for battery connection.
I got the Keis heated jacket 80 mile round trip at -4 on medium setting very toasty and warm there products are brilliant well worth the money and if you use muffs as well then you hands will be warm all day night long yes they look rubbish but better than cold hands any day cheers for the review
All the best Pete
Oxford heated grips on full power get up to approximately the surface temperature of the sun. I reckon a pair of these heated gloves coupled with heated grips would do the job nicely. Thanks TMF, you cover the practical items other vloggers don’t reach!
Thank you Pastie - that is my aim!
Great review as always....think I’ll finally take the plunge and part with some of my “hard earned” for a set of heated gloves....hopefully you had a decent ride home from the home of triumph...keep up the great reviews, many thanks
Great video. Would have liked to see you putting them on just to see how easily they hook up.
Nice review. Being a year round commuter I am an absolute gear nerd, I have spent years and a bucketload of cash finding the stuff that works, If I was a vlogger I would treat the biking world to the benefit of my experience, I could bore people for hours. In terms of heated kit like everything else depends what you want it for and how you use it, I couldn't be arsed to charge my kit every couple of days. I only have 2 bikes and both have a power port, as you mention you really need both heated grips and gloves, they work really well in conjunction with each other, personally I love my Gerbing XRS-12's, they have short cuffs and do seem to heat to the tips of my fingers, I am fine down to -5C, maybe its just me but why are most gloves gauntlets, it doesn't matter if they are waterproof as the water runs straight down your arms and straight into your gloves, my opinion - short gloves between the double cuffs of your Rukka.
Another great review. I’ve tried these gloves on and I love the fit and feel. At the mo I’ve used my Gerbing G-12 past 2 winters. There fantastic although a little cumbersome. The keys G501 feel great 👍🏻
Yes that is the thing that stood out for me Paul - a lack of bulk compared to the other heated gloves I've used...(and non heated for that matter)...
Been there too mr Flyer. But good of you to share your experiences! I have had one pair of Triumph gloves. The battery in the jacketpocket, leads through the sleeves and a nightmare to wear. The connector fell off and the fingers all cold. Another pair (sorry, can't remember the name, red and black with the same type switch as the Keis) with batteries in the calves. So heavy! Warm backside of the hands, cold fingers. None of them better than heated grips. So I'll stay with them! :-)
Well I think both is the answer (or move somewhere warmer!)...
I had the Gerbings for years but the cord was a PITA, between the gloves, the jacket liner and the bike. The gloves were warm but not tactile to the controls. Last year when I bought the Ultra Classic the H-D shop had the Tourmaster Synergy rechargeable brand heated gear and I bought the gloves and the liner/jacket. The lack of knuckle armor would be my only negative on them but the warmth and battery life is excellent. That being said, on a 9 hour trip I am conservative with the heat setting, but hey lasted for the trip with the first four hours being in the 40degree F range.
Supposedly, this year Tourmaster is adding the capacity to plug them into your bike or use the batteries. I like the battery only function for the daily commute as it is only about 20 minutes for me but I'll have to go back to the cord for those uber-long rides.
Great review 👍 I used to have the Keis inner gloves that ran off bike or battery, found it a faff to feed leads through jacket, and the leads used to disconnect from gloves. I use RST heated gloves with battery in the cuff - last hours, hot as hell and v comfortable, no hassle, good price - only problem is lack of decent armour.
Very thorough review as usual, well done!
Thank you Pete - always good to hear from you...
Hi TMF, I have used RST Thermotech last 4 winters, pretty much same except I never have needed full power and have same three heat modes, however no leads needed as batteries go on the gloves and on low power I get 4.5hrs of heat. Pretty same when riding in rain for hours but I have never had cold fingertips. No knuckle armour though. Top two things that stand out for me then the battery life better and no leads up your arms.
Try the new RST Paragon Thermotech gloves. All the good bits of the old ones but with better batteries, neater switch and most importantly, armour on the knuckles. I'm really pleased with mine and I think they're the same price as the old ones.
Great review thank you. Aren't a set of Oxford heated grips a better option though?
Good “as well as”....
Great review thank you. It astounds me that Keis are selling a heated glove for this price which doesn’t heat the whole hand! I’ll stick to my Gerbing XR12s they work properly - all over heat and waterproof.
Don't you just find them a bit bulky though? I did when I tried them....
TheMissendenFlyer yes they are a bit bulky.
I've got heated grips I.c.w. winter gloves. Warm enough for me most of the time. Heated grips are always available, you can't forget to take them with you. Plan some more coffee stops to stay/get warm.
If you still got cold hands, buy some very thin silk gloves to wear inside your other gloves.
Be carefull with electric gloves which are connected to the power supply of your bike. You might need a bigger fuse and even then the accumulator might get dammaged If it isn't made for those amounts of power needed.
Those battery packs are very useful for your action cam and microphone.
They don't sell those on our side of the pond. The company that makes my heated jacket liner uses that same type of built in heat controller. I decided to check out their gloves but unlike the jacket liner their gloves are not rated well. Many people complained of them not working out of the box or many that quit working in less than a year. I decided to order a set of Firstgear carbon heated gloves instead. (rebranded Warm & Safe) You need to use a controller with them however, so by the time I ordered the accessories to go with the gloves the order got rather costly. With heated gloves and the heated grips on my bike my hands should stay nice and toasty. The older I get the worse my arthritis gets so the extra heat on freezing cold days will be welcome.
Bar muffs and heated grips is the best solution for me, Hands never get wet and never get cold, and for the body Keis Heated jackets are brilliant.
I use Keis heated jacket and inner soles with no complaints.
But couldn't get on with the X800 gloves. Had three different pairs and found the heating elements would dig into my fingers.
So instead I've gone with heated grips and hand guards
No idea if these new gloves will be any better but a great review.
Sorry I was looking at the Ducati and missed the video. What was it about? :-)
Nice one Rob ;0)
heated grips and hand guards and i am happy with the same gloves all year round
VersysGTRider I've been looking at those heated grips I was wondering how good they work. You really don't need heated gloves with those
VersysGTRider so the grips are good huh? Do you know what brand ears are or if they're all pretty much good?
Heated grips suck ass compared to heated gloves.
@@phantombigballs8165 You know what, that is my contention exactly,
heated grips, would be nice, but it's the backs of the fingers that suffer,
and fingers matter... : )
I just dropped a lengthy comment on this exact issue, so right bro..
got you message thanks,, am looking at 701 s.am seeing if these can be 12volt only if needed by pluging into battery tender lead.
I haven't tried them myself (yet), but after a bit of net research Rev'it Taurus GTX gloves are supposed to be excellent winter gloves for 80% of the weather. For the other 20% adding the Keis inner heated gloves seem to be a good match.
As I said I haven't tried this set up yet, but when I upgrade my kit next year I'm going to try it out.
Thanks for the review, TMF. That looks like a definite buy for next season. This one, I've just been coping with undergloves, which aren't perfect, but do help a bit.
Great detailed review there. Have just traded in my existing bike which does have heated grips for another which doesn't, so very useful info. Thanks👍
Glad it was helpful!
All your bikes are so shiny in the garage!
It's how I like to keep them :0)
Nice gloves!
Been using my Gerbings for many years now. They plug into my Gerbing jacket, which plugs into the bike. Best setup for me 🌡️🔥
Nice one Ewout - thanks for watching!
I wax my gloves with leather saddle and tack waterproofing treatments, that helps with saturation resistance.
Nice review TMF. Certainly worth looking into a pair I think. Handguards certainly help with windchill, and indeed rain. Not a big fan of heated grips, so shame they don't heat the palms. It's the fingers you need heated anyway.
Good review TMF, Keis products are pretty good. I'm using their heated inner gloves combined with Oxford heated grips...perfect!. Definitely getting the Keis heated bodywarmer next, keeping your core warm makes a big difference on a long ride. Cheers, Steve
Yes I'm tempted with one of those I must say....
Hi tmf great review, the only pain i find is when you stop at a petrol station you plug back in then you have to turn on each item back on again, wish they had a short term memory so when you plug back to bike it remembers your last settings. my gloves burn the backs of my hands on full power even at minus four and my speedys dash was screaming Danger Will Robinson Danger.🤖
...loved that show...
A helpful review that. Although I rarely venture out into the cold I have considered these for those occasional chilly days as I already have the (brilliant) Kieis heated waistcoat and the gloves would just plug into that and feed from the bikes battery together. The only thing that concerns me (other than the expense) is that these gloves have no heating element in the palms. I think it is somewhat of a compromise and sort of dictates that one has heated grips as well. A shame as I'm sure they could have an element in the palms and under the fingers that ran at perhaps half the heat that the backs of the hands perform at. I have one bike with heated grips, but ironically it's the sportiest/fastest/least comfortable and therefor the least suitable for the cold months. First world problems eh...
Excellent review mate. Just bought these.
I agree with Matt Nicholas below, the Gerbing XRS-12 short cuff gauntlet gloves seem to be a plus in all the areas you have a problem with these Keis gloves.
:: I can't use them on full power because they're too hot.
:: I use them for 4 hours in one commute to and from work in the cold and driving rain. They stay very dry and my fingertips are warm.
:: In the rain, I still don't require full power
:: the final plus is that they are not as expensive as the KEIS gloves and many dealers do great sales.
I had the Keis G501's on test before I bought the Genrbing gloves and the huge cuffs and side mounted sockets were just too much of a pain to get inside my jacket cuff. As a result, trying them as you showed in your review outside the jacket, the rain gets into the inside of the glove when it pours down. Not a good thing and avoidable with the short Gerbing gloves. I have to note that the equivalent Gerbing battery powered gloves with a long cuff have the same issues and are more of a pain to get inside the jacket cuff to avoid rain getting in.
On a final note, and one that I think is important, is whether the glove or one tip is mobile-friendly? Many riders these days use their waterproof mobile as their satnav with something like the quadlock as a mounting system. Does the Keis glove you have work with a mobile screen?
Great review but not for me for the above reasons.
Hi mate, I've got a rukka nivala (double cuff) jacket. I'm between the the G502 and the new Gerbing XR (or XRL) - would use either with the glove cuff battery, as I don't want to be faffing around with cables and don't mind charging the gloves while I'm at work.
Which one would you recommend? Which one would be best paired with my nivala jacket, given that the cuffs would be bulky due to the batteries?
Thank you!!
In regard to the fit gloves tend to be quiet long in the fingers, I guess these follow the same route ? No slightly shorter versions ? Any shorter cuff version to easily wear under the jacket ?
thanks - as i get white finger these might be a good option rather than fitting heated grips to every bike i may ride.
Definitely worth a go - I wouldn’t be without my heated gloves (now onto the G701s)
Very useful. I’ve got heated grips on my T120 and the VStrom but I found that my finger tips and especially my thumb still remain cold. Which is the reason I don’t ride in winter (also the salt). But I wonder if these gloves in conjunction with heated grips would work. Have you ever tried Gerbing. They are supposed to be good too
Yes - too bulky for my liking....
Should mentioned that all the keis heated gear link together for easier use
I use keis gear
On battery and lead bloody great stuff
Yes good point....
Quality pear of Claw gloves is all you need. Heated Gloves are far to much Faff if your having to take them on and off regularly. Loving the daily videos. Cheers..
Glad you spotted that Plymouth! ...make the most of it, I can't keep this up for ever!!
Thx. Finally someone mentioned the one thing I wanted to know. Do the elements continue to the fingertips? Really surprising to me that almost no reviewers think to mention what parts of the glove actually emit heat. So thanks!
I have heated grips on both my bikes but long highway rides still chill my fingertips.
I could do with a pair of those gloves right now.....it's bloody freezing in my flat
Actually I have worn them indoors too!
Thank you for posting. Do you normally use these gloves when riding the GS? Also, does the cost include a battery or is it an additional cost?
Battery packs are extra, the 5200mah pack is over £100...
Hi TMF, another battery to charge when you're away on tour lol. Great video as always, keep up the good work.
Yes that is a downside - should have mentioned that in my list! Thanks for watching - TMF
Hi TMF great review as usual, if you have these and the heated vest plugged into the bike at the same time would that be okay?
Yep - they're designed for it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Cheers.
I am really tempted with heated gloves, maybe for next winter though as funds are low atm :-)
Were you just leaving the Triumph Factory? I recognise those roads as I only live round the corner. I will get a brew on next time haha. I've been contemplating getting some heated gloves. I've got heated grips on my Street Triple which certainly helps but the outside of the hands still get a good kicking.
Yes I was! Well spotted....
I'm a fan of Gerbing, my best bikerelated buy ever. Gloves and a jacketliner 😎
Agree.
Damn true
Me Too, jacketliner and gloves, all weather comfort, they do break electrically, no matter how good your wiring constant jiggling will break internal connections, just send them back and they send you a new pair... fantastic
Same. I have the G3s and they're great.
My Gerbings do front back and fingers really good
Great video :) - check out the RST Paragon Heated Gloves, they are nice and supple, not too bulky, and have heating down both sides of the finger and the ends. Battery pack only however, but quoting 240m on max and 265m medium.
Hi TMF, can you show us how you take care of your helmets, cleaning procedure and do you polish them with some chemicals?
I just wipe them with a damp kitchen roll! Job done...!
Great review mate, keep the great content coming! Get after it.
Interested video tmf the sound was bit low you normally have good sound very good video thanks Danny
Must he a good few recreational riders who think if it's cold enough for heated gloves and heated grips then perhaps it's too cold to be out riding, I don't subscribe to that myself but do worry about how many additional electrical items my bike's charging system can cope with which kind of puts me off adding more. Guess the external battery works but then like coms and gopro you have to remember to charge everything beforehand.
Yes and that is a pain I agree!
Been riding for 30 years in all weathers, £10 bar muffs and £15 ex display R&G heated grips.
I now buy a £600 winter banger car. Can't be doing with ice, salt, rain and flooded roads this time of year.
A very thorough review. Thank you! ☺ 👍
Would extra large medical exam gloves over the heated gloves increase the warmth and water resistance without compromising dexterity?
Dunno....
A long time ago but had you just been to the Triumph Factory on your Speed Triple? Just down the road from me! Nice review of the Keis gloves.
Nope
Beautiful job Matey!! Good information. Thank you.
That is interesting.
Heated grips and muff the best I have found so far..
But I wonder how long it will be before someone sticks a heat exchanger under the bodywork with vents exiting the handguards? Water cooling means it's easy.
Come on Honda or Bmw. Sort it out..
Good, comprehensive review tmf. Ta.
I like the sound of that!
Hello Andy,
I hope you and your family are all safe and healthy.
I watch your videos and I learn from your experience and feedback, thanks very much!
My question is have you tried Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Gloves, if so can you make a video of Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Clothing. I am aware that you have a video about Gerbing MicroWirePRO Heated Premium Jacket.
Kind regards,
Devrim Bölük
No I’ve not tried the gloves, just a jacket...
A very warm, pleasant and handy video Sir. Thank you again!........Sal : )
I bought RACER HEAT3 gloves 2 months ago they do heat the fingertips, overall I'm very happy with the gloves as long I'm still feeling my fingers :)
Great review , roll on summer
Ditto that sentiment!
Are there any concerns with riding around with a large lithium ion battery, given they tend to explode or burn up when pierced, is it worth considering the safety aspect? Heated grips seem the far better option. What do you think?
Hadn't thought of that - I'm not sure there's ever been an incident of a bike rider suffering from that though...
Um?... I use a pair of Bering heated glove on my daily commute. 3 power setting and last approx. three hours run flat out, cost around 180 quid a year or so ago. Waterproof up to a point but after three or four hours on a motorway the wet stuff eventually gets through. To be fair, I,ve yet to find a glove that remains fully waterproof for more than a season... think the membrane does eventually break down with use. What I,m interested to know is there any difference apart from time obviously, in performance running them directly off the bike?
Does the batter power both gloves?. how does that work? you woulds need a connecting cable to also connect the gloves together. or is it two seperate batteries.. bit of a pain carrying two batteries around
I've got heated grips and hand guards, and my fingers are still pissing freezing. I'm going to buy ski/snowboarding gloves and give them a try. You'd think that they ought to be warm.
This is my bug bear...finger tips ...feel like I am riding through Stalingrad/ They simply need to design ones with finger tips in mind. Come on..someone, make 'em!
On my half hour commute, my fingertips can go numb with the cold when it’s close to zero degrees. If these don’t heat that area, not sure these will help.
Ditto, I just dropped a lengthy comment on this exact issue, so right bro..
Manufactureres do not seem to understand what really matters when it
comes to keeping hands warm on a bike on the hwy.
RS Taichi gloves (RST648) heat up the tips of the fingers, very comfortable pair!
Good morning TMF, you will need more than heated gloves 🧤!! Ha Ha. Thank you for the video and review and take care 😎👍🇬🇧.
nice looking gloves. I have keis inner gloves but never use them. They make it almost impossible to move your fingers when they’re inside normal gloves. Very warm though. I have their waist coat too and that’s really good. Very nearly bought muffs as I think they will be really effective. The bike season is short here but mostly very hot and I’m looking to cool down.
Lucky man - swap you some temperature!
TheMissendenFlyer May to early October riding season though. Not seen my bike since first week of oct.
oh dear :0(
If you want heated gloves that heat around your fingers and have the option to use a battery stored in the glove, or can be plugged into the bike or there is an option to use a large powerbank that can be stored in your internal pocket..... Try the gerbing XR 12 gloves.
Yeah I've got the xr12, the hybrid version can work with either a lead or an integrated battery. They are very stiff though I find.
Hi tmf, you have not tried the Gerbing heated gloves. They have it all. Every finger has heat plus the thumb.the backs of your hands,and the palms are heated as well. I've had mine for 2yrs now and I love them.check them out, you won't be disappointed.
I have tried them for fit Dennis - I just found them too bulky and I like to be able to feel the controls....
Riding most often on Canada’s east coast, heated gear is a must. How cold? Yesterday I put a pot of boiling water on the step and it froze so quickly the ice was warm. Hyperbole aside, we need headed gear. I just received Gerbing heated glove-liners but have yet to try them. However, they look light, fit well, slip into any of my existing gloves and aren’t too costly. It’s going to be at least a month before I get to use them so, if anyone has experience using them, I’d love a review.
Hope you get a decent thaw on soon Walter! Feel for you guys over there....
try Gebbring gloves . i love mine , and the heating elements are guaranteed for life. my fingers go white when riding below 10 C and my fingers always stay warm, just dont put them on highest setting as it is too high for most people
Which ones do you have they sound very good
@@daithimurphy1832 i am using the XR12 gloves now , they have a pocket in the cuff for a battery. only downside is the cuff is a little on the large side for getting my jacket cuffs over the gloves when its raining. But they have a range to suit everyone , including heated glove liners, fleece, pants and socks
I had mine on the highest level once and got burnt!
I should point out Gerbing replaced them eith a new pair rhet had on trial. Heating on front and back od hand.
The heated elements in the Keis gloves are guaranteed for life as well
I found these way less stiff than the Gerbing ones so it was a no brainier for me really, and these still burn the tops of your hands on the highest setting so they definitely work 🤣
Good review and thanks for the info TMF
I find that fingertips are the worst victims of wind chill and they the palms and back of the hand don't affect rider concentration much. It's so painful when the fingertips are cold. I wish someone would make gloves which specifically warms up the fingertips or even putting a tripple layer of windbreaker or even non breathable fabric on the fingertips.
Gerbing XRS-12 gloves.
So, fun story... walking through Tesco just now and heard a familiar voice shouting "Hey Kids" I'm looking around thinking "he's a long way from home" then realised the last vid I watched was (for some reason) playing very loudly in my pocket. I had a few strange looks...but No publicity is bad publicity as they say!!!
Try telling that to Frank Bough!
My RST heated gloves are too thickly padded and make the controls difficult as you point out. However I'm having heated grips fitted to the Street RS at next service. Whats your opinion on hand guards on a Street Triple? I've seen a few on Yamaha MT's and they don't offend too much.
Ooh no I wouldn't go hand guards on a STR - heated grips yes, hand guards no....just my opinion of course you do what's right for you!
Not long purchased the Keis heated vest and insoles and wow how on earth have I been riding and freezing 🥶 my arse off all that time.
I wonder if it possible to use a bike starter battery (like Anitgavity) instead of paying top dollar for a Keiss battery!!
I imagine so - just need to get the current/voltage requirements right....it's only a battery.
I still see people (mostly young lads) riding in winter with no gloves on and bright red hands? Why do this? Do they think it makes them look hard.
Hi TMF good review as usual keis stuff is excellent Adams comment below covers it I would agree with him completely. Get the vest and it will change your biking gear forever and British company I think
For the GS, I wonder how these would compare with Hippo handle bar muffs and your usual gloves and heated grips ?
Best thing about muffs is gloves stay dry so much warmer so no need for heated gloves. If it's below 5' wearing thin mittens means the grips heat works perfectly.
Did I detect a Speedmaster there TMF? Thanks for the review, as ever. Yours aye, Alan
Yes well spotted Doc....
Why don't they promote heated mittens? The heat loss would be less and you could tie them together with a piece of elastic threaded through the arms of your jacket lke we all had in the infants. Seriously though, as a skier like you, I always use mittens because of the better heat efficiency, and on the bike, apart from the thumbs, you don't really use your fingers independently so mittens would make more sense - there is room to put one of those heat patches in and off you go, cheaply - you would just have a rubber wart on the mitt to use a tft screen or flip your visor, not for Hells Angels though - just a thought .
Worth noting that the gloves are 20% off at the moment 👌
What size are yours, please? I'd like to buy some, thanks!