Sir, I hear many charismatic Christians use the phrase "binding in the name of Jesus" especially in terms of their version of exorcism (deliverance sessions). Although I am aware that Jesus mentioned "binding the strong man" in Matthew, I'm beginning to suspect that this Protestant ritual demonstrably derives from the Solomonic Magic traditions of Roman Catholicism. Can someone help me gather more evidence regarding this? Thank you in advance!@@TheEsotericaChannel
I'll be watching the video after work, but I want to thank Dr. Sledge for being a beacon of serious, honest scholarship in a subject that often gets dragged down by all sorts of dishonesty and lunacy.
If you think it is hard to understand and some of books were ancient when earlier editors used them, in my sense it has lost its value. Because without further information it comes down to opinions. I am seventy 72. In the past I was active in a Presbyterian Church. Today the Presbyterian Church is dying in Scotland. And the numbers in the United States don’t look promising. My Great Nephew is graduating from High school in Washington D C. He has 4point grade average the school is highly rated. There are gaps in his education. He wants to learn. Many teens do not. If these young people have low value in religion they will all fade away. The year 2024 I believe has a disappearing value in people minds. I am no longer young. Many things interest me .
If I remember correctly Dr Irving Finkel mentioned that the British Museum has thousands of unread tablets written in cuneiform simply because not many scholars are able to read them. I wonder how many of these lost texts are just chillin' in a warehouse of a museum. Great episode as always!
I’m sure this has been discussed extensively at the British Museum, but digitizing those tablets and making those digitized versions available to researchers or even the general public would be a good idea
Hebrews were not big on cuneiform since they learned writing from Egyptians, but they were occupied by mighty cuneiform-using empires at various times, so who knows.
More likely monasteries. Monasteries have huge libraries and love existing in obscure, out of the way regions. Lots of previously lost works were discovered by coincidence in a monastery.
I love listening to this channel as you open up different topics and perspectives on ancient and medieval history, philosophy, and culture. It’s a field I find fascinating, and where I know just enough to know that I barely know anything at all. When I was a child, I attended Bible camps in the summer. They were mostly summer camps with a lick of religion painted over the top; but some times the camps hired my Irish grandfather to conduct Bible classes. Usually these classes were superficial and boring, but when they had my grandfather come in, he would conduct the classes outdoors, sitting on the ground, his back to a big pine tree, and he would just narrate Bible stories (mostly from the Torah, occasionally from the New Testament) aloud, without reading from texts or notes, like a bard converted by Saints Patrick or Columba. When he got to a key point he would just break into a poem from the Bible that related to the story-the Song of Deborah, when telling stories from Judges, or the Song of the Sea when telling the story of the Exodus. Anyway, your channel reminds me of those times. Not in terms of style, but in the depth of your knowledge, the enthusiasm and energy you give us, and the gentleness and generosity of the way you share your work with us. I don’t know why this was on my mind today as I listened, but it was, and I wanted to share it with you, and to thank you for the gift of your sharing. Peace, brother. ✌️
No idea how this showed up in my feed. Very interesting, thank you. Not religious myself, but love history. Now i have plenty of new things to learn from all your work.
One of the most fascinating topics I came across while doing a read through over the entire Bible. I remember the Book of Kings repeatedly saying something like “and the rest of the deeds of king so and so are to be found in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel” and I just assumed it was referring to the canonical Chronicles. Then I read Chronicles and couldn’t find such things. Came to find out it was referring to a completely different book! Thank you for covering this Dr. Sledge!
Not just a king, but anything that you give away your power too. Especially a god, a dead idol, a dead symbol, a dead idea. When you give away your freedom and liberty, you lose yourself.
(1 Sam. 8:4-6) Seeing the unsuitability of Samuel’s sons, the Israelites ask him to “appoint for us, then, a king to govern us, like other nations.” This request displeases Samuel . Samuel warns the people that kings lay heavy burdens on a nation.( Sam. 8:10-17 ) In fact, the kings would be so rapacious that eventually the people would cry out to God to save them from the kings (1 Sam. 8:18). Yahweh agrees that asking for a king is a bad idea because it amounts to a rejection of Yahweh himself, as king. Nonetheless, the Lord decides to allow the people to choose their form of government, and he tells Samuel, "Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me from being king over them" (1 Sam. 8:7). As biblical scholar John Goldingay notes, "God starts with his people where they are; if they cannot cope with his highest way, he carves out a lower one. When they do not respond to the spirit of Yahweh or when all sorts of spirits lead them into anarchy, he provides...the institutional safeguard of earthly rulers." Sometimes God permits institutions that are not part of his eternal purpose, and the monarch of Israel is one of the most glaring examples .
I appreciate your commitment to accuracy and intellectual honesty. Presenting contradictory or incoherent information can lead to misunderstandings and misinterpretations. It is important to be clear and distinct in our communication to avoid misleading others. Love that you leave such things as mysteries… “to be continued” lol
Perfect timing Purim, new Raz, Easter’s….. so interested in this ! Again your work is fantastic !!!!! Your brilliant and intriguing presentation is wonderful,Sir. Thank you !
Such a wonderful and truly compelling episode. You presented the relationship between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint in a way I’d never really heard before and it’s utterly fascinating.
I can't believe I've been talking religion with people for decades and never heard or came up with the simple "it's a library" explanation. It's like getting hit by a bolt of simple truth. That's a much better way to surmise and convey the point. I couldn't see the forest for the fucking trees.
Today is my birthday. Beyond all hope I have made it to 64 today. And Dr. Justin puts out this wonderful work. Plus he name drops Lovecraft. What a happy birthday to me!! 🎂
Wow… what a cool channel! Thanks for all your hard work researching. One thing that really “spooked me” was the realization/confirmation I had when you said something along the lines of (paraphrasing) “When this ancient scripture was written, the lost texts referenced were ancient to THEM,” It really just confirms the idea that we as a species can try so hard to keep a record of time, but ultimately have “amnesia” due to lost texts/records of events. It makes one wonder how far back our history really goes, and if one day we will find a treasure trove revealing so much, that we maybe wish we hadn’t found it. I agree with you, Mother Earth hasn’t revealed all of her secrets about our ancestral“childhood” just yet. Hopefully we can discover something like that before it’s truly lost to time. Very fitting of you to drop a small HP Lovecraft reference. Sometimes truth truly is stranger than fiction!
Absolutely and intensely good. I spend little time improving my Greek and Hebrew and it's always a pleasant surprise how even a bit of time spent on them each week makes lessons like this one even more rewarding for the efforts. Thank you as always.
I was definitely not expecting to hear the Hi Ho song in a discussion on ancient Hebrew texts! 🤣 Your sense of humour is delightful, and I love learning new things from your videos! Mythology is one of my biggest special interests, with Biblical study and religious study being in a bit of a secondary category. I'd love to see a future video on comparing Biblical myths to even older Sumerian and Canaanite myths, showing the similarities and places where they diverge from each other.
Why envy when you can become one yourself. All you need it the ability to project your will and Kozyrev's mirror. See Russian patient RU2122446C1 filed in 1998. You can really build this. Does it work? Well, you have all the time needed to find out.
7th Day Adventism presents Satan as the prosecuting Attorney, which is why you want/need YAHshua to be your Lawyer on Judgment Day.That is a crucial factor re:Salvation. Who is Marduk? I believe it should be YHVH = YAHaVaH, not Yahweh at all.
@@abettermankind9761Temptation is just when you want something that you know isn’t good for you. Like, I’m tempted to eat chocolate lava cakes all day but I know I shouldn’t. I’m tempted to yell at someone who angers me but I know that won’t make things better. I think most of the time it’s just fighting against instant gratification.
Oh nice, can't wait to watch this later I was just looking for information on the lost Book of the Wars of YHWH! I love this channel, there is so little out there like this!
Discovered Esoterica about a couple of months ago, and while I don't necessarily have any religious or esoteric beliefs, it has been a nice fresh of content to watch for a while and a great academic source of inspiration for my DnD games. I might even make my next character based on you.
I love how @centre-place lectures act like an introduction to many topics, while Esoterica (&co) goes more in depth. Kinda wishing for some collaboration
I agree! They could definitely do a joint episode on the magic of Joseph Smith. Also, they could explore the parallel (non-credal, inclusive, non-supernatural) attitudes of Reconstructionist Judaism and the Community of Christ.
I find "lost" books from various religions to be utterly fascinating. It's so interesting to try and understand how they were similar or, more interesting, how they go against the words that have been collected.
🧠The retrospectively obvious insight that "the Bible" is fundamentally a library of diverse texts, diverse theologically, diverse of genres, from a massive stretch of time, etc, etc...is absolutely mindblowing to me no matter how obvious it seems in hindsight. 🤯 Fantasy authors (and D&D DMs) should be picking up calling sacred texts The X Library or The Library of X or what have you. Fires me up to think about!
That's such a good idea. And since its also a library that details the structure of the church and instruction s for rituals it would provide a potential source for clever players to find clues or solve puzzles.
@@m.arcos.g.v I knew it meant "book" but I never really considered that it could also be plural. I guess I Just figured it was because Christians consider it "THE" book. My study of languages is definitely amateur, though.
True, there's a 1962 topographic map of Ireland, it ties all religion together, there's a gold cup which is actually a gold skull inscribed OMRY in North Ireland. Blood lines flow from two figures on the west coast. The blood has an inscription, Jawchoam, who's holding the Grail? Well, he's got a pigs head and he's dressed in a purple robe just like Joseph of Arimethia. Anyone can see this map right now. Good luck
I've been gaining an interest in it lately since my NDE.... and I can't tell you how thankful I am for your work. See, I'm autistic, and the version everyone I've ever met has given me is just here's the book. If you don't just believe without any context as to its evolution, there's something wrong with you. That had turned me off for years... during my NDE, I learned that my problem was never with God himself, but rather people who poorly represented him. You provide me with the fine detail of the minutia, that an autistic person NEEDS to gain a strong interest. So, yeah, thanks for that, too!
Alot of christians. Especially in America are utterly obsessed with making out Thier the perfect Christians and prophets and make out they know thing the Bible specifically says people won't know I think some sects of Judaism have the same problem. Not many will dive into the original meaning of verses. Plus the rabbis argue and debate and change doctrine on the fly at times.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to take as much Hebrew Bible during my M.A. as I would have liked, but what I did take talked a good deal about the Dead Sea Scrolls (the professor had worked on some Dead Sea Scroll texts over spring break the semester I took his class...that's a story in itself!)...but, there was never any mention of what you discussed here! The Synoptic Gospels class I took began with the professor saying, "I don't think you can understand the Synoptics unless you understand things like the Q Gospel, the Gospel of Thomas, and various other non-canonical texts," and I was excited by this (alas, not all of my classmates were, which is another story!). But non-Dead Sea Scrolls texts that are referred to in the Hebrew Bible, or are pseudepigraphal? Nope, not a word. So, needless to say: thanks a million for doing this episode, and I look forward to more related to these topics, and whatever else you decide to discuss! :)
It's odd this aspect isn't talked about more. Though, I don't think you really need to understand the Thomas before the Synoptics - Thomas, like all the 'gnostic' gospels are a bit later. Though, even with Q, which can be kinda reconstructed from Matthew and Luke, I've rarely seen people comment on just those sections. Maybe that's an episode! Hope you're well!
@@arturhashmi6281 In both the Synoptics class, and the Pentateuch class (when we discussed the Documentary Hypothesis), there were students who asked, unironically, "But I thought that the Bible was written by the Holy Spirit?" The Synoptics professor--a Catholic priest from South Africa--answered, "If you believe that, that's fine; but for our purposes, that idea is not a sufficient basis for discussion." On another occasion in that class, one of my classmates (who had been pretty open-minded initially when he started in the department at the same time I did) said before class began, "Are you ready for another day in this class of having your faith undermined by what we're forced to read and discuss?" I smiled and said, "Sure!" and hoped I would not have to follow up with "My faith isn't undermined by anything we're learning...since it doesn't actually exist for the theological matters you're referring to," but luckily I didn't have to voice that follow-up and lose even more friends in the program by doing so. But that's what you get, I suppose, when you're the only non-Christian (and one of very few non-Catholics) at a Jesuit university in the Master's program in the Religious Studies department. ;)
@@phillipbernhardt-house6907 It's interesting for me, because this knowledge and my faith does not collide at all, I do not see the problem, I was learning about eg. "Q source" from the priest in the catholic primary school, He told us about various rational hypotheses about some myths or laws from the scripture and We would think He is crazy if He would say that Holy spirit wrote the Bible "himself" or even that Moses wrote the whole Torah, altough I remember that We were warned about apocrypha, that they maybe hard to understand and possibly dangerous for our souls and probably thats why I become fascinated by them and later by gnosticism and alchemy, hermeticism, mystery cults, lit. any weird occultist topic etc... and here Im, my soul is completely possesed by esoterica and Im fine bout that. All the best to You Sir.
I have learned so much about the religion I was raised in (and left for my sanity among other reasons) through your channel and I thank you for that as well as all you do.
Ah, you make God to be so very interesting! How different the incomprehensible one is from how many institutions teach about him. You are truly gifted Dr.Sledge. thank you for your wisdom and good teaching.
I appreciate your opinion on these issues. So many people in this medium tend to want to perpetuate the invalidity of these older "lost" texts. It is so easy to be duped by people who claim to be experts, and a lot of is just getting worse with random texts being self-published anonymously. I do find them entertaining to read, but I choose not to base my belief systems on them. Great video!
What a great explanation of what we don't have today in text , as opposed to what we do have , along with historical references of what many view as ( non canonical ) or "Hidden away" ............The Whisper's of History
This show continues to amaze me each time. That was a lot of great detail. I thought I knew a bit about the lost books but 🤯 "These books represent a whisper trough time and we are lucky to hear them at all...🙇🏽♂️
More brilliant work! I'm doing my first read through of the (Catholic) Bible right now and all of your videos are so cherished! More books on the reading pile at the end of every video! Lol.
Excellent video! The thumbnail had me hooked and the content didn’t fall short either. I’m Almost done reading the “library of the Bible” and it’s interesting to hear you point out histories little whispers of other literature haha
I got quite out of date on this channel's offerings during the last months of the school year. I really need to catch up! This video was excellent and fascinating.
I searched up Enoch and Jasher because I read of them. Jude mentioned Enoch and Jasher was mentioned in Joshua and second Samuel . Both fantastic books.
A noticed a shared proverb or “saying of the ancients” between the book of Jasher and a part of I believe one of the books of Samuel or Kings. “Out of the wicked proceeds forth wickedness” which David mentioned to Saul when he his clothing was cut by him in the cave. The part in the book of Jasher where it says it corresponds to Nimrod’s son Mardon (Marduk?) who was just as wicked as Nimrod. thought it was interesting.
I’m learning Lurinac Kabbalah and I used to say Yahweh and how I couldn’t stand him 😅 now I say HaShem. Lots of Zohar and Merkabah mysticism, VERY interesting stuff.
The metre of Habaqquq 3 is wild. I highly recommend learning Yemenite recitation rules for accent-punctuation, and Geoffrey Khan's reconstruction of Tiberian pronunciation. Together, it unlocks the sound/rhythm of these texts.
Hey Doc, I’d just love to say that I really love how flaming your voice is. It’s a nice reprieve from all the stress in my life as a college student. In fact, I actually more so listen to your vids rather than watch them (unless I have the time to do so), so I would think it’d be cool if you could come up with a podcast that’s similar to this channel, but can dive a little deeper in certain topics that could get flagged on YT. And to bring on guests as well. Just a thought. Greatly appreciate your hard work! ☺️
Oh man. You just skim so fast by something so deep to my heart. “Enrollment by genealogy” like my dad who introduced me to my familiar because I was the oldest son. We inherent familiars. We enroll into our house of spirits through genealogy. ❤❤❤ thanks. Another Great episode. 😊
The context there is II Chronicles 12:16: ודברי רחבעם הראשנים והאחרונים הלא־הם כתובים בדברי שמעיה הנביא ועדו החזה להתיחש ומלחמות רחבעם וירבעם כל־הימים The deeds of Rehoboam, early and late, are recorded in the chronicles of the prophet Shemaiah and Iddo the seer, in the manner of genealogy. There was continuous war between Rehoboam and Jeroboam. That hitpael להתיחש (יחש√) means "enroll into a genealogy," so my guess is that it was a Solomonic dynastic annal of some kind.
I Felt like a criminal watching these without paying so now I got off the guilt and subscribed your patreon! If enough people would start to fund projects like these it would elevate so much of the current students reach for data globally.
Thank you for this. You don't know how many times I have stopped in my tracks and wondered just what the writers were talking about and where in the world are these missing books?
I am not sure if I am the only one, but just re-watched this episode, and it is still a great pod. Reminds me about the books lost in classical Qin purge and the later fires of the empirial library in China. There has been so much, yet as some scholars say, let us take into account the grammarian treat of the human kind, maybe actually it is better? And besides, the evolutionary pressure may have helped to save the best part... this I am not sure :)
I just received my Mirror of Lilith shirt today. I plan on wearing it with my black utili-kilt to a local HEMA and SCA event tomorrow. Gonna let people know about the channel if anyone asks because of episodes as lovely as this one.
Dr. Sledge, have you ever considered doing a video on The Q (Quelle) Gospel? I think it would be fascinating coming from you! I actually thought you were going to mention it near the end of this video, but then saw we were quickly running out of time.
@@TheEsotericaChannelNice! I should be content to receive an answer to one question (and an awesome answer!), but I shall dare ask one more - especially concerning the aforementioned topic: have you ever considered a collab with John Hamer from Centre Place? He seems like a good dude (for any unfamiliar, see his 'Life of Brian' historicity lecture).
Extremely informative. Thank you for your commitment to the Kingdom of the Lord . I think the biggest piece of the puzzle we are missing is a contextual one. It’s increasingly difficult to understand through language.
It’s refreshing to hear somebody speak on the topic that’s not biased or speaking like they’re possessed (for lack of a better term lol) thanks Dr sledge
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The most powerful magic seems to be love
I'd say it's compound interest.@@derekstaroba
Sir, I hear many charismatic Christians use the phrase "binding in the name of Jesus" especially in terms of their version of exorcism (deliverance sessions). Although I am aware that Jesus mentioned "binding the strong man" in Matthew, I'm beginning to suspect that this Protestant ritual demonstrably derives from the Solomonic Magic traditions of Roman Catholicism. Can someone help me gather more evidence regarding this? Thank you in advance!@@TheEsotericaChannel
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...or the love of compound interest. 😉
@@troywhite6039 you can see how smart and witty esoterica is to come up with a rebuttal like that 😆 clever devil
I'll be watching the video after work, but I want to thank Dr. Sledge for being a beacon of serious, honest scholarship in a subject that often gets dragged down by all sorts of dishonesty and lunacy.
Glad to be of service
But not too serious 🙃
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if he braids that beard into cornrows, then all will be perfect
If you think it is hard to understand and some of books were ancient when earlier editors used them, in my sense it has lost its value. Because without further information it comes down to opinions. I am seventy 72. In the past I was active in a Presbyterian Church. Today the Presbyterian Church is dying in Scotland. And the numbers in the United States don’t look promising. My Great Nephew is graduating from High school in Washington D C. He has
4point grade average the school is highly rated. There are gaps in his education. He wants to learn. Many teens do not. If these young people
have low value in religion they will all fade away. The year 2024 I believe has a disappearing value in people minds. I am no longer young.
Many things interest me .
If I remember correctly Dr Irving Finkel mentioned that the British Museum has thousands of unread tablets written in cuneiform simply because not many scholars are able to read them. I wonder how many of these lost texts are just chillin' in a warehouse of a museum. Great episode as always!
I’m sure this has been discussed extensively at the British Museum, but digitizing those tablets and making those digitized versions available to researchers or even the general public would be a good idea
Hebrews were not big on cuneiform since they learned writing from Egyptians, but they were occupied by mighty cuneiform-using empires at various times, so who knows.
@@holdingpattern245 the ancient canaanites learned writing from the Phoenicians no?
More likely monasteries. Monasteries have huge libraries and love existing in obscure, out of the way regions. Lots of previously lost works were discovered by coincidence in a monastery.
@@ezrafriesner8370true but the hebrews are almost exactly the same as phoenicians, they would use mostly the same writing at first
I love listening to this channel as you open up different topics and perspectives on ancient and medieval history, philosophy, and culture. It’s a field I find fascinating, and where I know just enough to know that I barely know anything at all.
When I was a child, I attended Bible camps in the summer. They were mostly summer camps with a lick of religion painted over the top; but some times the camps hired my Irish grandfather to conduct Bible classes. Usually these classes were superficial and boring, but when they had my grandfather come in, he would conduct the classes outdoors, sitting on the ground, his back to a big pine tree, and he would just narrate Bible stories (mostly from the Torah, occasionally from the New Testament) aloud, without reading from texts or notes, like a bard converted by Saints Patrick or Columba. When he got to a key point he would just break into a poem from the Bible that related to the story-the Song of Deborah, when telling stories from Judges, or the Song of the Sea when telling the story of the Exodus.
Anyway, your channel reminds me of those times. Not in terms of style, but in the depth of your knowledge, the enthusiasm and energy you give us, and the gentleness and generosity of the way you share your work with us.
I don’t know why this was on my mind today as I listened, but it was, and I wanted to share it with you, and to thank you for the gift of your sharing.
Peace, brother. ✌️
Thanks for sharing! I believe that is the absolute best way to educate on any topic. Sounds like an amazing experience.
And i don't feel manipulated, he covers the topics without his angle
I thought, damn, it’s only for patreon members, and only then realized that I actually had the membership! 😂
Bam!
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I come for the deep insight on esoteric matters, but stay for the bits. Never change, Dr. Justin.
No idea how this showed up in my feed. Very interesting, thank you. Not religious myself, but love history. Now i have plenty of new things to learn from all your work.
It's an awesome channel!
One of the most fascinating topics I came across while doing a read through over the entire Bible. I remember the Book of Kings repeatedly saying something like “and the rest of the deeds of king so and so are to be found in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel” and I just assumed it was referring to the canonical Chronicles. Then I read Chronicles and couldn’t find such things. Came to find out it was referring to a completely different book! Thank you for covering this Dr. Sledge!
"Samuel was a ... theoretical anarchist" -- yes! I love it when God tells him why it's bad to have a king. Now more than ever
Bro was like I am literally your GOD. Why do you need a man to lead you ?
Not just a king, but anything that you give away your power too. Especially a god, a dead idol, a dead symbol, a dead idea. When you give away your freedom and liberty, you lose yourself.
Well, God was rather specific about why. He said he [a king] will tax you, enslave your children to his war machine, and destroy your way of life
(1 Sam. 8:4-6) Seeing the unsuitability of Samuel’s sons, the Israelites ask him to “appoint for us, then, a king to govern us, like other nations.” This request displeases Samuel . Samuel warns the people that kings lay heavy burdens on a nation.( Sam. 8:10-17 )
In fact, the kings would be so rapacious that eventually the people would cry out to God to save them from the kings (1 Sam. 8:18).
Yahweh agrees that asking for a king is a bad idea because it amounts to a rejection of Yahweh himself, as king.
Nonetheless, the Lord decides to allow the people to choose their form of government, and he tells Samuel, "Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me from being king over them" (1 Sam. 8:7). As biblical scholar John Goldingay notes, "God starts with his people where they are; if they cannot cope with his highest way, he carves out a lower one. When they do not respond to the spirit of Yahweh or when all sorts of spirits lead them into anarchy, he provides...the institutional safeguard of earthly rulers." Sometimes God permits institutions that are not part of his eternal purpose, and the monarch of Israel is one of the most glaring examples .
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I appreciate your commitment to accuracy and intellectual honesty. Presenting contradictory or incoherent information can lead to misunderstandings and misinterpretations. It is important to be clear and distinct in our communication to avoid misleading others. Love that you leave such things as mysteries… “to be continued” lol
Love when we get to see how fluent you are in these texts and their hostories. Absolutely illuminating! So much is lost without proper context. 16:59
Perfect timing Purim, new Raz, Easter’s…..
so interested in this ! Again your work is fantastic !!!!! Your brilliant and intriguing presentation is wonderful,Sir. Thank you !
Many thanks !
Lost books seems like such a tragedy to me. I always hope for a discovery of an ancient library.
Such a wonderful and truly compelling episode. You presented the relationship between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint in a way I’d never really heard before and it’s utterly fascinating.
Thanks, the LXX doesn't get enough attention, especially in Jewish spaces.
When I took Jewish Law for my Religious Studies minor, we actually had a whole class on these books that are missing. It was fascinating.
einsof's purpose is love
I can't believe I've been talking religion with people for decades and never heard or came up with the simple "it's a library" explanation. It's like getting hit by a bolt of simple truth. That's a much better way to surmise and convey the point.
I couldn't see the forest for the fucking trees.
Today is my birthday. Beyond all hope I have made it to 64 today. And Dr. Justin puts out this wonderful work. Plus he name drops Lovecraft. What a happy birthday to me!! 🎂
Happy birthday!
@@TheEsotericaChannelThank you sensei!
@@TheEsotericaChannelOh and here is wishing you and the family a very happy and peaceful Passover
Not quite Passover yet, but Purim!
happy birthday ✨🎁✨
Wow… what a cool channel! Thanks for all your hard work researching.
One thing that really “spooked me” was the realization/confirmation I had when you said something along the lines of (paraphrasing)
“When this ancient scripture was written, the lost texts referenced were ancient to THEM,”
It really just confirms the idea that we as a species can try so hard to keep a record of time, but ultimately have “amnesia” due to lost texts/records of events.
It makes one wonder how far back our history really goes, and if one day we will find a treasure trove revealing so much, that we maybe wish we hadn’t found it. I agree with you, Mother Earth hasn’t revealed all of her secrets about our ancestral“childhood” just yet. Hopefully we can discover something like that before it’s truly lost to time.
Very fitting of you to drop a small HP Lovecraft reference. Sometimes truth truly is stranger than fiction!
Dr. J Sledge bringin the HEAT to a snowy Detroit Winter 2.0. Much appreciated brother.
It's so cold in the D
@@TheEsotericaChannel deep cut 😂
Absolutely and intensely good. I spend little time improving my Greek and Hebrew and it's always a pleasant surprise how even a bit of time spent on them each week makes lessons like this one even more rewarding for the efforts. Thank you as always.
I was definitely not expecting to hear the Hi Ho song in a discussion on ancient Hebrew texts! 🤣 Your sense of humour is delightful, and I love learning new things from your videos! Mythology is one of my biggest special interests, with Biblical study and religious study being in a bit of a secondary category. I'd love to see a future video on comparing Biblical myths to even older Sumerian and Canaanite myths, showing the similarities and places where they diverge from each other.
Add to this Zoroaster and the Gathas
The topics you discuss have inspired my next novel. Thank you for inspiring me to move forward with my passion!
I envy the time travelers who have access to these texts.
Why envy when you can become one yourself. All you need it the ability to project your will and Kozyrev's mirror. See Russian patient RU2122446C1 filed in 1998. You can really build this. Does it work? Well, you have all the time needed to find out.
If you have life, don't envy those wasters of time. Life is more, confused text is death. Worship not those dead idols.
"Prosecuting attorney" is how I've described Satan for years. Definitely works for, not against. Great show as usual.
After landing on this view of Satan, it kind of ruined any and all satanic film and media I always enjoyed. RIP.
also advocate and prince of games@@MrKoalaburger
With your view in mind, I wonder where and why inner temptation comes from?
7th Day Adventism presents Satan as the prosecuting Attorney, which is why you want/need YAHshua to be your Lawyer on Judgment Day.That is a crucial factor re:Salvation. Who is Marduk? I believe it should be YHVH = YAHaVaH, not Yahweh at all.
@@abettermankind9761Temptation is just when you want something that you know isn’t good for you. Like, I’m tempted to eat chocolate lava cakes all day but I know I shouldn’t. I’m tempted to yell at someone who angers me but I know that won’t make things better. I think most of the time it’s just fighting against instant gratification.
Oh nice, can't wait to watch this later I was just looking for information on the lost Book of the Wars of YHWH! I love this channel, there is so little out there like this!
I’m a total amateur, but I love this channel! Dr Sledge, greetings from west Michigan. I’m from Grand Rapids!
Just upgraded my Patreon membership, I’m so grateful for all your work, Dr. Sledge.
Many thanks !
You sir are a hero! Thanks for all the work you do.
I love your yt channel. It is very interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
Waking up at 4am to this, what a lovely surprise
I'm having this for _suhur._
@@twotothehalf3725nice bro
Discovered Esoterica about a couple of months ago, and while I don't necessarily have any religious or esoteric beliefs, it has been a nice fresh of content to watch for a while and a great academic source of inspiration for my DnD games. I might even make my next character based on you.
Dude you rule bro I love listening the all of the philosophy discussed on here
best episode yet! thanks for all your hard work and dedication to keep us engaged with new insight and great view points!
Love your work. It takes a special attention to detail. Keep up the great work!!
I love how @centre-place lectures act like an introduction to many topics, while Esoterica (&co) goes more in depth. Kinda wishing for some collaboration
I agree! They could definitely do a joint episode on the magic of Joseph Smith. Also, they could explore the parallel (non-credal, inclusive, non-supernatural) attitudes of Reconstructionist Judaism and the Community of Christ.
I find "lost" books from various religions to be utterly fascinating. It's so interesting to try and understand how they were similar or, more interesting, how they go against the words that have been collected.
I like that in the background you have Japanese puzzle boxes and a surplus Soviet military dual compartment AK-47 gun oil/ storage grease bottle
Whispers of history, that's so poetic. Thank you for this great episode!
Voices crying unto us from the dust
dude thank you so much for everything you do, particularly sharing. peace and love to you and yours
I need to listen to this again and then maybe again
You're the best my Brother thanks. Shalom
🧠The retrospectively obvious insight that "the Bible" is fundamentally a library of diverse texts, diverse theologically, diverse of genres, from a massive stretch of time, etc, etc...is absolutely mindblowing to me no matter how obvious it seems in hindsight. 🤯
Fantasy authors (and D&D DMs) should be picking up calling sacred texts The X Library or The Library of X or what have you. Fires me up to think about!
Ha! I'm actually a DM myself so this was funny. Hey guys who wants to believe in the beholder? Hahaha!
That's such a good idea. And since its also a library that details the structure of the church and instruction s for rituals it would provide a potential source for clever players to find clues or solve puzzles.
@@m.arcos.g.v Not an American, just also not raised in a monotheistic household so it never struck me.
@@m.arcos.g.v I knew it meant "book" but I never really considered that it could also be plural. I guess I Just figured it was because Christians consider it "THE" book. My study of languages is definitely amateur, though.
True, there's a 1962 topographic map of Ireland, it ties all religion together, there's a gold cup which is actually a gold skull inscribed OMRY in North Ireland. Blood lines flow from two figures on the west coast. The blood has an inscription, Jawchoam, who's holding the Grail? Well, he's got a pigs head and he's dressed in a purple robe just like Joseph of Arimethia. Anyone can see this map right now. Good luck
I've been gaining an interest in it lately since my NDE.... and I can't tell you how thankful I am for your work.
See, I'm autistic, and the version everyone I've ever met has given me is just here's the book. If you don't just believe without any context as to its evolution, there's something wrong with you.
That had turned me off for years... during my NDE, I learned that my problem was never with God himself, but rather people who poorly represented him.
You provide me with the fine detail of the minutia, that an autistic person NEEDS to gain a strong interest.
So, yeah, thanks for that, too!
Alot of christians. Especially in America are utterly obsessed with making out Thier the perfect Christians and prophets and make out they know thing the Bible specifically says people won't know I think some sects of Judaism have the same problem. Not many will dive into the original meaning of verses. Plus the rabbis argue and debate and change doctrine on the fly at times.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to take as much Hebrew Bible during my M.A. as I would have liked, but what I did take talked a good deal about the Dead Sea Scrolls (the professor had worked on some Dead Sea Scroll texts over spring break the semester I took his class...that's a story in itself!)...but, there was never any mention of what you discussed here! The Synoptic Gospels class I took began with the professor saying, "I don't think you can understand the Synoptics unless you understand things like the Q Gospel, the Gospel of Thomas, and various other non-canonical texts," and I was excited by this (alas, not all of my classmates were, which is another story!). But non-Dead Sea Scrolls texts that are referred to in the Hebrew Bible, or are pseudepigraphal? Nope, not a word.
So, needless to say: thanks a million for doing this episode, and I look forward to more related to these topics, and whatever else you decide to discuss! :)
It's odd this aspect isn't talked about more. Though, I don't think you really need to understand the Thomas before the Synoptics - Thomas, like all the 'gnostic' gospels are a bit later. Though, even with Q, which can be kinda reconstructed from Matthew and Luke, I've rarely seen people comment on just those sections. Maybe that's an episode! Hope you're well!
What was the problem for your classmates?
@@arturhashmi6281 In both the Synoptics class, and the Pentateuch class (when we discussed the Documentary Hypothesis), there were students who asked, unironically, "But I thought that the Bible was written by the Holy Spirit?" The Synoptics professor--a Catholic priest from South Africa--answered, "If you believe that, that's fine; but for our purposes, that idea is not a sufficient basis for discussion." On another occasion in that class, one of my classmates (who had been pretty open-minded initially when he started in the department at the same time I did) said before class began, "Are you ready for another day in this class of having your faith undermined by what we're forced to read and discuss?" I smiled and said, "Sure!" and hoped I would not have to follow up with "My faith isn't undermined by anything we're learning...since it doesn't actually exist for the theological matters you're referring to," but luckily I didn't have to voice that follow-up and lose even more friends in the program by doing so. But that's what you get, I suppose, when you're the only non-Christian (and one of very few non-Catholics) at a Jesuit university in the Master's program in the Religious Studies department. ;)
@@phillipbernhardt-house6907 It's interesting for me, because this knowledge and my faith does not collide at all, I do not see the problem, I was learning about eg. "Q source" from the priest in the catholic primary school, He told us about various rational hypotheses about some myths or laws from the scripture and We would think He is crazy if He would say that Holy spirit wrote the Bible "himself" or even that Moses wrote the whole Torah, altough I remember that We were warned about apocrypha, that they maybe hard to understand and possibly dangerous for our souls and probably thats why I become fascinated by them and later by gnosticism and alchemy, hermeticism, mystery cults, lit. any weird occultist topic etc... and here Im, my soul is completely possesed by esoterica and Im fine bout that. All the best to You Sir.
I find it odd anyone would think their faith could be undermined. Goes to show how much faith they have in their own beliefs.
Had to leave work early so I can watch this and take notes.
Loved this episode and I always love your work and your channel as well 💯...🙏🏼
Wooohooop The Doc does it again, happy esoteric friday y"all!!!
I have learned so much about the religion I was raised in (and left for my sanity among other reasons) through your channel and I thank you for that as well as all you do.
Thank you for the amazing content.
Ah, you make God to be so very interesting! How different the incomprehensible one is from how many institutions teach about him. You are truly gifted Dr.Sledge. thank you for your wisdom and good teaching.
Looking forward to this. Your channel has helped with past research so I'll be jumping at this when i wake up. Cheers. 👍👍
I appreciate your opinion on these issues. So many people in this medium tend to want to perpetuate the invalidity of these older "lost" texts. It is so easy to be duped by people who claim to be experts, and a lot of is just getting worse with random texts being self-published anonymously. I do find them entertaining to read, but I choose not to base my belief systems on them.
Great video!
What a great explanation of what we don't have today in text , as opposed to what we do have , along with historical references of what many view as ( non canonical ) or "Hidden away" ............The Whisper's of History
This show continues to amaze me each time.
That was a lot of great detail. I thought I knew a bit about the lost books but 🤯
"These books represent a whisper trough time and we are lucky to hear them at all...🙇🏽♂️
Friday night Yahweh with ESOTERICA. Fantastic 👍🏼🏴
Thank you for yet another great lecture Dr Sledge ❤
You've outdone yourself on this one, Dr. Sledge. 💥💥💥💥
Discussions of lost religious writings always remind me of the novel, "A Canticle for Liebowitz."
Fascinating as always Dr. S.
Can you do a video next about Rosicrucianism? Or if one has already been done can somebody link it here? Thanks and keep up the great work, Justin!
Dr Sledge, your videos are always just so well thought out and presented. Thank you for them!
Your work is absolutely fantastic and each video is like the most mind expanding content on RUclips.
Just listened to you on Apocrypals after having followed your channel and their podcast for years. Glad to see some of my favorites collaborating!
More brilliant work! I'm doing my first read through of the (Catholic) Bible right now and all of your videos are so cherished! More books on the reading pile at the end of every video! Lol.
Fascinating topic. Another excellent production.
This is why we subscribe. Keep up the great work 👍
Love your work Dr. Sledge. All the love from one michigander to another! \m/
@21:21 Thank you for mentioning this detail, loved it!
"The definite article hadn't evolved yet" really gives a nice shot of context and color.
A Mensch Of Cross-Referencing. Dazzling Scholarship. Thank you Dr. Sledge!
Excellent video! The thumbnail had me hooked and the content didn’t fall short either. I’m Almost done reading the “library of the Bible” and it’s interesting to hear you point out histories little whispers of other literature haha
I got quite out of date on this channel's offerings during the last months of the school year. I really need to catch up! This video was excellent and fascinating.
This is a nice and chill channel but also educational.
The interactions with the Satan I've had confirmed to me the view of 'prosecuting attorney' is very correct.
I searched up Enoch and Jasher because I read of them. Jude mentioned Enoch and Jasher was mentioned in Joshua and second Samuel . Both fantastic books.
A noticed a shared proverb or “saying of the ancients” between the book of Jasher and a part of I believe one of the books of Samuel or Kings.
“Out of the wicked proceeds forth wickedness” which David mentioned to Saul when he his clothing was cut by him in the cave. The part in the book of Jasher where it says it corresponds to Nimrod’s son Mardon (Marduk?) who was just as wicked as Nimrod. thought it was interesting.
I’m learning Lurinac Kabbalah and I used to say Yahweh and how I couldn’t stand him 😅 now I say HaShem. Lots of Zohar and Merkabah mysticism, VERY interesting stuff.
Love the content thank you professor. I love pre history/lost knowledge and your knowledge is enlightening
The metre of Habaqquq 3 is wild.
I highly recommend learning Yemenite recitation rules for accent-punctuation, and Geoffrey Khan's reconstruction of Tiberian pronunciation. Together, it unlocks the sound/rhythm of these texts.
I love this channel, well done.
Yahweh was a family practitioner. He said to Moses, "Take these two tablets and call me in the morning."
😂😂😂❤😂😂😂 love this
I love this 😂
This comment deserves more likes
This joke is fire 🔥 🌳
Thank you for this 😂
Hey Doc, I’d just love to say that I really love how flaming your voice is. It’s a nice reprieve from all the stress in my life as a college student. In fact, I actually more so listen to your vids rather than watch them (unless I have the time to do so), so I would think it’d be cool if you could come up with a podcast that’s similar to this channel, but can dive a little deeper in certain topics that could get flagged on YT. And to bring on guests as well. Just a thought. Greatly appreciate your hard work! ☺️
Flaming? Thanks for the kind words!
Oh man. You just skim so fast by something so deep to my heart. “Enrollment by genealogy” like my dad who introduced me to my familiar because I was the oldest son. We inherent familiars. We enroll into our house of spirits through genealogy. ❤❤❤ thanks. Another Great episode. 😊
The context there is II Chronicles 12:16:
ודברי רחבעם הראשנים והאחרונים הלא־הם כתובים בדברי שמעיה הנביא ועדו החזה להתיחש ומלחמות רחבעם וירבעם כל־הימים
The deeds of Rehoboam, early and late, are recorded in the chronicles of the prophet Shemaiah and Iddo the seer, in the manner of genealogy. There was continuous war between Rehoboam and Jeroboam.
That hitpael להתיחש (יחש√) means "enroll into a genealogy," so my guess is that it was a Solomonic dynastic annal of some kind.
Thank you so much for your insightful works
I Felt like a criminal watching these without paying so now I got off the guilt and subscribed your patreon! If enough people would start to fund projects like these it would elevate so much of the current students reach for data globally.
You always appear on RUclips with exactly the right topics at the right time :D
Thank you for this. You don't know how many times I have stopped in my tracks and wondered just what the writers were talking about and where in the world are these missing books?
I am not sure if I am the only one, but just re-watched this episode, and it is still a great pod. Reminds me about the books lost in classical Qin purge and the later fires of the empirial library in China. There has been so much, yet as some scholars say, let us take into account the grammarian treat of the human kind, maybe actually it is better? And besides, the evolutionary pressure may have helped to save the best part... this I am not sure :)
Thank you, your contributions are always so interesting!
Thank you Dr Sledge .. this was profound.
I just received my Mirror of Lilith shirt today. I plan on wearing it with my black utili-kilt to a local HEMA and SCA event tomorrow. Gonna let people know about the channel if anyone asks because of episodes as lovely as this one.
Dr. Sledge, have you ever considered doing a video on The Q (Quelle) Gospel? I think it would be fascinating coming from you! I actually thought you were going to mention it near the end of this video, but then saw we were quickly running out of time.
Yep, one coming up!
YES!
@@TheEsotericaChannelNice! I should be content to receive an answer to one question (and an awesome answer!), but I shall dare ask one more - especially concerning the aforementioned topic: have you ever considered a collab with John Hamer from Centre Place?
He seems like a good dude (for any unfamiliar, see his 'Life of Brian' historicity lecture).
Another outstanding piece of work. Thank you.
Can we get an episode on the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch? Thanks
Those ancient scribes have such beautiful handwriting
Well done, doctor. I’ll be subscribing!!
Wow thanks so much for covering this. I'm sad that most haven't survived, but as you said, the earth is yet to give up all its secrets.
Extremely informative. Thank you for your commitment to the Kingdom of the Lord . I think the biggest piece of the puzzle we are missing is a contextual one. It’s increasingly difficult to understand through language.
excited to watch! thanks as always for sharing your expertise with us here! I learn something new everytime
It’s refreshing to hear somebody speak on the topic that’s not biased or speaking like they’re possessed (for lack of a better term lol) thanks Dr sledge
It suddenly makes sense. The term "Biblio" refers to "library" in many languages, and is also the source of the word "Bible".
Great stuff. Thanks.