The Book of the Wars of Yahweh and the other Lost Scriptures of Ancient Israel
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2024
- Lost and repressed books of scripture fire the imagination. From the Book of Enoch, the Gospel of Thomas or the Apocryphon of John, these mysterious books profoundly intrigue us. But, of the books of the Hebrew Bible / Old Testament we actually know of several, perhaps dozens of ancient lost works of Israelite Scripture. This episode explores those texts. From the Book of the Wars of Yahweh, the Sefer Yashar, Royal Annals, lost books of Prophecy, obscure poetry and even the plan for the first Temple revealed to King David. What do we know about these books? Have any of them been recovered? What can we reveal about the religion of ancient Israel by exploring these lost books? And, are there also lost books referenced in the New Testament as well?
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The most powerful magic seems to be love
I'd say it's compound interest.@@derekstaroba
Sir, I hear many charismatic Christians use the phrase "binding in the name of Jesus" especially in terms of their version of exorcism (deliverance sessions). Although I am aware that Jesus mentioned "binding the strong man" in Matthew, I'm beginning to suspect that this Protestant ritual demonstrably derives from the Solomonic Magic traditions of Roman Catholicism. Can someone help me gather more evidence regarding this? Thank you in advance!@@TheEsotericaChannel
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...or the love of compound interest. 😉
@@troywhite6039 you can see how smart and witty esoterica is to come up with a rebuttal like that 😆 clever devil
If I remember correctly Dr Irving Finkel mentioned that the British Museum has thousands of unread tablets written in cuneiform simply because not many scholars are able to read them. I wonder how many of these lost texts are just chillin' in a warehouse of a museum. Great episode as always!
I’m sure this has been discussed extensively at the British Museum, but digitizing those tablets and making those digitized versions available to researchers or even the general public would be a good idea
Hebrews were not big on cuneiform since they learned writing from Egyptians, but they were occupied by mighty cuneiform-using empires at various times, so who knows.
@@holdingpattern245 the ancient canaanites learned writing from the Phoenicians no?
More likely monasteries. Monasteries have huge libraries and love existing in obscure, out of the way regions. Lots of previously lost works were discovered by coincidence in a monastery.
@@ezrafriesner8370true but the hebrews are almost exactly the same as phoenicians, they would use mostly the same writing at first
I'll be watching the video after work, but I want to thank Dr. Sledge for being a beacon of serious, honest scholarship in a subject that often gets dragged down by all sorts of dishonesty and lunacy.
Glad to be of service
But not too serious 🙃
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if he braids that beard into cornrows, then all will be perfect
I thought, damn, it’s only for patreon members, and only then realized that I actually had the membership! 😂
Bam!
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"Samuel was a ... theoretical anarchist" -- yes! I love it when God tells him why it's bad to have a king. Now more than ever
Bro was like I am literally your GOD. Why do you need a man to lead you ?
Not just a king, but anything that you give away your power too. Especially a god, a dead idol, a dead symbol, a dead idea. When you give away your freedom and liberty, you lose yourself.
Well, God was rather specific about why. He said he [a king] will tax you, enslave your children to his war machine, and destroy your way of life
I love listening to this channel as you open up different topics and perspectives on ancient and medieval history, philosophy, and culture. It’s a field I find fascinating, and where I know just enough to know that I barely know anything at all.
When I was a child, I attended Bible camps in the summer. They were mostly summer camps with a lick of religion painted over the top; but some times the camps hired my Irish grandfather to conduct Bible classes. Usually these classes were superficial and boring, but when they had my grandfather come in, he would conduct the classes outdoors, sitting on the ground, his back to a big pine tree, and he would just narrate Bible stories (mostly from the Torah, occasionally from the New Testament) aloud, without reading from texts or notes, like a bard converted by Saints Patrick or Columba. When he got to a key point he would just break into a poem from the Bible that related to the story-the Song of Deborah, when telling stories from Judges, or the Song of the Sea when telling the story of the Exodus.
Anyway, your channel reminds me of those times. Not in terms of style, but in the depth of your knowledge, the enthusiasm and energy you give us, and the gentleness and generosity of the way you share your work with us.
I don’t know why this was on my mind today as I listened, but it was, and I wanted to share it with you, and to thank you for the gift of your sharing.
Peace, brother. ✌️
Thanks for sharing! I believe that is the absolute best way to educate on any topic. Sounds like an amazing experience.
And i don't feel manipulated, he covers the topics without his angle
Perfect timing Purim, new Raz, Easter’s…..
so interested in this ! Again your work is fantastic !!!!! Your brilliant and intriguing presentation is wonderful,Sir. Thank you !
Many thanks !
No idea how this showed up in my feed. Very interesting, thank you. Not religious myself, but love history. Now i have plenty of new things to learn from all your work.
It's an awesome channel!
I envy the time travelers who have access to these texts.
Why envy when you can become one yourself. All you need it the ability to project your will and Kozyrev's mirror. See Russian patient RU2122446C1 filed in 1998. You can really build this. Does it work? Well, you have all the time needed to find out.
If you have life, don't envy those wasters of time. Life is more, confused text is death. Worship not those dead idols.
One of the most fascinating topics I came across while doing a read through over the entire Bible. I remember the Book of Kings repeatedly saying something like “and the rest of the deeds of king so and so are to be found in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel” and I just assumed it was referring to the canonical Chronicles. Then I read Chronicles and couldn’t find such things. Came to find out it was referring to a completely different book! Thank you for covering this Dr. Sledge!
I come for the deep insight on esoteric matters, but stay for the bits. Never change, Dr. Justin.
🧠The retrospectively obvious insight that "the Bible" is fundamentally a library of diverse texts, diverse theologically, diverse of genres, from a massive stretch of time, etc, etc...is absolutely mindblowing to me no matter how obvious it seems in hindsight. 🤯
Fantasy authors (and D&D DMs) should be picking up calling sacred texts The X Library or The Library of X or what have you. Fires me up to think about!
Ha! I'm actually a DM myself so this was funny. Hey guys who wants to believe in the beholder? Hahaha!
That's such a good idea. And since its also a library that details the structure of the church and instruction s for rituals it would provide a potential source for clever players to find clues or solve puzzles.
"The Bible" from late latín "biblĭa" and from greek βιβλία [biblía]; wich is traslated literaly as "books", a " sellection of books", and... That's is a library. In Español is more easy to see, Biblioteca, this was teach to us from first grade, never fail to surprise my how bad education its in USA.
@@choroycornel2045 Not an American, just also not raised in a monotheistic household so it never struck me.
@@choroycornel2045 I knew it meant "book" but I never really considered that it could also be plural. I guess I Just figured it was because Christians consider it "THE" book. My study of languages is definitely amateur, though.
I appreciate your commitment to accuracy and intellectual honesty. Presenting contradictory or incoherent information can lead to misunderstandings and misinterpretations. It is important to be clear and distinct in our communication to avoid misleading others. Love that you leave such things as mysteries… “to be continued” lol
When I took Jewish Law for my Religious Studies minor, we actually had a whole class on these books that are missing. It was fascinating.
Such a wonderful and truly compelling episode. You presented the relationship between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint in a way I’d never really heard before and it’s utterly fascinating.
Thanks, the LXX doesn't get enough attention, especially in Jewish spaces.
I can't believe I've been talking religion with people for decades and never heard or came up with the simple "it's a library" explanation. It's like getting hit by a bolt of simple truth. That's a much better way to surmise and convey the point.
I couldn't see the forest for the fucking trees.
Why would the Torah have an ammorite victory song? A banger is a banger. No matter what century you live in 😅🤷
Waking up at 4am to this, what a lovely surprise
I'm having this for _suhur._
@@twotothehalf3725nice bro
Today is my birthday. Beyond all hope I have made it to 64 today. And Dr. Justin puts out this wonderful work. Plus he name drops Lovecraft. What a happy birthday to me!! 🎂
Happy birthday!
@@TheEsotericaChannelThank you sensei!
@@TheEsotericaChannelOh and here is wishing you and the family a very happy and peaceful Passover
Not quite Passover yet, but Purim!
happy birthday ✨🎁✨
Wow… what a cool channel! Thanks for all your hard work researching.
One thing that really “spooked me” was the realization/confirmation I had when you said something along the lines of (paraphrasing)
“When this ancient scripture was written, the lost texts referenced were ancient to THEM,”
It really just confirms the idea that we as a species can try so hard to keep a record of time, but ultimately have “amnesia” due to lost texts/records of events.
It makes one wonder how far back our history really goes, and if one day we will find a treasure trove revealing so much, that we maybe wish we hadn’t found it. I agree with you, Mother Earth hasn’t revealed all of her secrets about our ancestral“childhood” just yet. Hopefully we can discover something like that before it’s truly lost to time.
Very fitting of you to drop a small HP Lovecraft reference. Sometimes truth truly is stranger than fiction!
You sir are a hero! Thanks for all the work you do.
Dr. J Sledge bringin the HEAT to a snowy Detroit Winter 2.0. Much appreciated brother.
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best episode yet! thanks for all your hard work and dedication to keep us engaged with new insight and great view points!
I was definitely not expecting to hear the Hi Ho song in a discussion on ancient Hebrew texts! 🤣 Your sense of humour is delightful, and I love learning new things from your videos! Mythology is one of my biggest special interests, with Biblical study and religious study being in a bit of a secondary category. I'd love to see a future video on comparing Biblical myths to even older Sumerian and Canaanite myths, showing the similarities and places where they diverge from each other.
Lost books seems like such a tragedy to me. I always hope for a discovery of an ancient library.
Love when we get to see how fluent you are in these texts and their hostories. Absolutely illuminating! So much is lost without proper context. 16:59
Dr. Sledge your doing the lord's work.... Literally.
Your username is fantastic
If only he was..
Absolutely and intensely good. I spend little time improving my Greek and Hebrew and it's always a pleasant surprise how even a bit of time spent on them each week makes lessons like this one even more rewarding for the efforts. Thank you as always.
dude thank you so much for everything you do, particularly sharing. peace and love to you and yours
"Prosecuting attorney" is how I've described Satan for years. Definitely works for, not against. Great show as usual.
After landing on this view of Satan, it kind of ruined any and all satanic film and media I always enjoyed. RIP.
also advocate and prince of games@@MrKoalaburger
With your view in mind, I wonder where and why inner temptation comes from?
7th Day Adventism presents Satan as the prosecuting Attorney, which is why you want/need YAHshua to be your Lawyer on Judgment Day.That is a crucial factor re:Salvation. Who is Marduk? I believe it should be YHVH = YAHaVaH, not Yahweh at all.
@@abettermankind9761Temptation is just when you want something that you know isn’t good for you. Like, I’m tempted to eat chocolate lava cakes all day but I know I shouldn’t. I’m tempted to yell at someone who angers me but I know that won’t make things better. I think most of the time it’s just fighting against instant gratification.
Looking forward to this. Your channel has helped with past research so I'll be jumping at this when i wake up. Cheers. 👍👍
Dear Dr Sledge,
You are among the only acedemics that do not treat the book of Mormon as a punchline and I am grateful for it.
It's just as sacred and ridiculous as any other scripture.
@@JimmyHandtrixx I had not heard that yet it is worth some discussion. Still, try telling it to the estimated 9 million people the church of Rome Catholics tortured to death in the worst possible way, burning in a public display, or the 'guess-timated' 6 million "witches" protestant christians burned to death, for trying to have religious freedom and practice the old ways. The goodly respectable and well-off Christians that tied me up and told me why they were about to burn me alive, ahem, told me it is all about the "hole" I would not allow them to sodomize. Sorry, it still hurts 40 years later to even think about what my family did to me and an unknown number of little boys. {I suppose this comment will get me banned here, yet it matters little now, since I must go back up to my mansion in Heaven i have built with my good deeds and acts fighting demonic Evil, not to mention the pains from the many injuries inflicted on my physical body.} >
I'm catholic but I'm open to listening to the views of others.
Some young gentlemen came round to my house and we had a discussion about the book of Mormon. I was given a copy which I still have and at first I found it very strange and difficult on account of having only been exposed to our own teaching but I persisted and now I accept it as another record of human history and I can't condemn it as I am not an expert so I accept it and still refer to it and watch carefully as archaeological discoveries are made in the Americas
@@TheEsotericaChannelMe as well. Honestly am not sure if me finding your channel or me joining the Church happened first, but both are treasured sources of information to me.
@@jiggsborah7041 Unfortunately all we now have learned and know, the new facts being uncovered by archeology and genetics tracing Human history, tell us that none of the events in the book of Mormon did or could have happened as they are written. It is not and can not be true fact, and does indeed outlaw polygamy. Yet I do like the lines about how people ought to be vegetarians, "...except in times of famine or winter" when people have no other choice. As this is found in ALL sacred ways and texts around the world - as a way of giving up the violent ways of animals to become closer to the Angelic ways of life...
...Eternal Life that is. To climb The Tree of Eternal Life and float among the Angles, one must take things lightly - not be weighed down by gold and treasures.
Dude you rule bro I love listening the all of the philosophy discussed on here
Love your work. It takes a special attention to detail. Keep up the great work!!
Unfortunately, I didn't get to take as much Hebrew Bible during my M.A. as I would have liked, but what I did take talked a good deal about the Dead Sea Scrolls (the professor had worked on some Dead Sea Scroll texts over spring break the semester I took his class...that's a story in itself!)...but, there was never any mention of what you discussed here! The Synoptic Gospels class I took began with the professor saying, "I don't think you can understand the Synoptics unless you understand things like the Q Gospel, the Gospel of Thomas, and various other non-canonical texts," and I was excited by this (alas, not all of my classmates were, which is another story!). But non-Dead Sea Scrolls texts that are referred to in the Hebrew Bible, or are pseudepigraphal? Nope, not a word.
So, needless to say: thanks a million for doing this episode, and I look forward to more related to these topics, and whatever else you decide to discuss! :)
It's odd this aspect isn't talked about more. Though, I don't think you really need to understand the Thomas before the Synoptics - Thomas, like all the 'gnostic' gospels are a bit later. Though, even with Q, which can be kinda reconstructed from Matthew and Luke, I've rarely seen people comment on just those sections. Maybe that's an episode! Hope you're well!
What was the problem for your classmates?
@@arturhashmi6281 In both the Synoptics class, and the Pentateuch class (when we discussed the Documentary Hypothesis), there were students who asked, unironically, "But I thought that the Bible was written by the Holy Spirit?" The Synoptics professor--a Catholic priest from South Africa--answered, "If you believe that, that's fine; but for our purposes, that idea is not a sufficient basis for discussion." On another occasion in that class, one of my classmates (who had been pretty open-minded initially when he started in the department at the same time I did) said before class began, "Are you ready for another day in this class of having your faith undermined by what we're forced to read and discuss?" I smiled and said, "Sure!" and hoped I would not have to follow up with "My faith isn't undermined by anything we're learning...since it doesn't actually exist for the theological matters you're referring to," but luckily I didn't have to voice that follow-up and lose even more friends in the program by doing so. But that's what you get, I suppose, when you're the only non-Christian (and one of very few non-Catholics) at a Jesuit university in the Master's program in the Religious Studies department. ;)
@@phillipbernhardt-house6907 It's interesting for me, because this knowledge and my faith does not collide at all, I do not see the problem, I was learning about eg. "Q source" from the priest in the catholic primary school, He told us about various rational hypotheses about some myths or laws from the scripture and We would think He is crazy if He would say that Holy spirit wrote the Bible "himself" or even that Moses wrote the whole Torah, altough I remember that We were warned about apocrypha, that they maybe hard to understand and possibly dangerous for our souls and probably thats why I become fascinated by them and later by gnosticism and alchemy, hermeticism, mystery cults, lit. any weird occultist topic etc... and here Im, my soul is completely possesed by esoterica and Im fine bout that. All the best to You Sir.
I find it odd anyone would think their faith could be undermined. Goes to show how much faith they have in their own beliefs.
Just listened to you on Apocrypals after having followed your channel and their podcast for years. Glad to see some of my favorites collaborating!
I am beginning to conclude that all of your videos are absolutely spectacular. Hello again, Dr. Sledge -- The last comment I left was 2 months ago on a video you posted nearly 3 years ago; this comment being my second on your channel. I am sincerely grateful for discovering your channel; I feel as though I owe a debt to you as you discuss & present such heavy philosophical literature, along with the accompanying history, in such a phenomenal fashion. The moment that I am more financially stable, I most certainly will contribute to your Patreon.
Thank you so much for becoming an integral part in my journey of self-exploration; you serve as the most influential factor that has inspired me to pursue a doctorate in philosophy. Your videos mean the world to me; thank you again, my good sir.
I love how @centre-place lectures act like an introduction to many topics, while Esoterica (&co) goes more in depth. Kinda wishing for some collaboration
I agree! They could definitely do a joint episode on the magic of Joseph Smith. Also, they could explore the parallel (non-credal, inclusive, non-supernatural) attitudes of Reconstructionist Judaism and the Community of Christ.
Oh nice, can't wait to watch this later I was just looking for information on the lost Book of the Wars of YHWH! I love this channel, there is so little out there like this!
Thank you for yet another great lecture Dr Sledge ❤
Loved this episode and I always love your work and your channel as well 💯...🙏🏼
I've been gaining an interest in it lately since my NDE.... and I can't tell you how thankful I am for your work.
See, I'm autistic, and the version everyone I've ever met has given me is just here's the book. If you don't just believe without any context as to its evolution, there's something wrong with you.
That had turned me off for years... during my NDE, I learned that my problem was never with God himself, but rather people who poorly represented him.
You provide me with the fine detail of the minutia, that an autistic person NEEDS to gain a strong interest.
So, yeah, thanks for that, too!
Alot of christians. Especially in America are utterly obsessed with making out Thier the perfect Christians and prophets and make out they know thing the Bible specifically says people won't know I think some sects of Judaism have the same problem. Not many will dive into the original meaning of verses. Plus the rabbis argue and debate and change doctrine on the fly at times.
Whispers of history, that's so poetic. Thank you for this great episode!
I need to listen to this again and then maybe again
I love your yt channel. It is very interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
excited to watch! thanks as always for sharing your expertise with us here! I learn something new everytime
Just upgraded my Patreon membership, I’m so grateful for all your work, Dr. Sledge.
Many thanks !
I have learned so much about the religion I was raised in (and left for my sanity among other reasons) through your channel and I thank you for that as well as all you do.
Discovered Esoterica about a couple of months ago, and while I don't necessarily have any religious or esoteric beliefs, it has been a nice fresh of content to watch for a while and a great academic source of inspiration for my DnD games. I might even make my next character based on you.
Thank you for the amazing content.
@21:21 Thank you for mentioning this detail, loved it!
Oh man. You just skim so fast by something so deep to my heart. “Enrollment by genealogy” like my dad who introduced me to my familiar because I was the oldest son. We inherent familiars. We enroll into our house of spirits through genealogy. ❤❤❤ thanks. Another Great episode. 😊
The context there is II Chronicles 12:16:
ודברי רחבעם הראשנים והאחרונים הלא־הם כתובים בדברי שמעיה הנביא ועדו החזה להתיחש ומלחמות רחבעם וירבעם כל־הימים
The deeds of Rehoboam, early and late, are recorded in the chronicles of the prophet Shemaiah and Iddo the seer, in the manner of genealogy. There was continuous war between Rehoboam and Jeroboam.
That hitpael להתיחש (יחש√) means "enroll into a genealogy," so my guess is that it was a Solomonic dynastic annal of some kind.
Fascinating topic. Another excellent production.
This is why we subscribe. Keep up the great work 👍
Wooohooop The Doc does it again, happy esoteric friday y"all!!!
Love this channel. The information is crazy. Appreciate it
Love the content thank you professor. I love pre history/lost knowledge and your knowledge is enlightening
This show continues to amaze me each time.
That was a lot of great detail. I thought I knew a bit about the lost books but 🤯
"These books represent a whisper trough time and we are lucky to hear them at all...🙇🏽♂️
I find "lost" books from various religions to be utterly fascinating. It's so interesting to try and understand how they were similar or, more interesting, how they go against the words that have been collected.
Love your work Dr. Sledge. All the love from one michigander to another! \m/
I’m a total amateur, but I love this channel! Dr Sledge, greetings from west Michigan. I’m from Grand Rapids!
I appreciate your opinion on these issues. So many people in this medium tend to want to perpetuate the invalidity of these older "lost" texts. It is so easy to be duped by people who claim to be experts, and a lot of is just getting worse with random texts being self-published anonymously. I do find them entertaining to read, but I choose not to base my belief systems on them.
Great video!
Had to leave work early so I can watch this and take notes.
Thank you so much for your insightful works
Enjoyed the program very much,thanks again dude,
your awesome✌😎
You're the best my Brother thanks. Shalom
Your work is absolutely fantastic and each video is like the most mind expanding content on RUclips.
You've outdone yourself on this one, Dr. Sledge. 💥💥💥💥
Is it possible that yaweh was a real person/war lord that was deified after his death? The phrase "yaweh is a man of war, yaweh is his name" comes to mind. Same question for all other gods of the time
Legends usually start with something like a name so it's not impossible and more likely. And as with all embellishments they expand.
I am that I am, and that's all that I am, I'm Yahweh the warrior man.
I am what I am, I'm Popeye the sailor man.
That is the same theory that’s been put forth for Odin. A real chieftain that lead his people up into Scandinavia
Thank you Dr Sledge .. this was profound.
This is a nice and chill channel but also educational.
Another outstanding piece of work. Thank you.
I love this channel, well done.
😮 Amazing! I enjoy your yt channel very much, Justin! 😃
Scholarly and well done sir.love your work and style.
again thank you so much.. very interesting as always, in this for decades still learning every day
Friday night Yahweh with ESOTERICA. Fantastic 👍🏼🏴
Well done, doctor. I’ll be subscribing!!
Thank you. Your video was very interesting and informative ❤😊
Thank you, Dr Sledge!
Excellent video! The thumbnail had me hooked and the content didn’t fall short either. I’m Almost done reading the “library of the Bible” and it’s interesting to hear you point out histories little whispers of other literature haha
Great stuff. Thanks.
Hey Doc, I’d just love to say that I really love how flaming your voice is. It’s a nice reprieve from all the stress in my life as a college student. In fact, I actually more so listen to your vids rather than watch them (unless I have the time to do so), so I would think it’d be cool if you could come up with a podcast that’s similar to this channel, but can dive a little deeper in certain topics that could get flagged on YT. And to bring on guests as well. Just a thought. Greatly appreciate your hard work! ☺️
Flaming? Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for another great video.
As always, thank you for your teachings
More brilliant work! I'm doing my first read through of the (Catholic) Bible right now and all of your videos are so cherished! More books on the reading pile at the end of every video! Lol.
A Mensch Of Cross-Referencing. Dazzling Scholarship. Thank you Dr. Sledge!
Love the piano intro. ❤Cheers.
Great as always 🙏
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Ooopooh this is an awesome topic!!!
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Great video as always
I Felt like a criminal watching these without paying so now I got off the guilt and subscribed your patreon! If enough people would start to fund projects like these it would elevate so much of the current students reach for data globally.
Wonderful video. So glad I found your channel.
Fascinating, thank you)
Can you do a video next about Rosicrucianism? Or if one has already been done can somebody link it here? Thanks and keep up the great work, Justin!
Ah, you make God to be so very interesting! How different the incomprehensible one is from how many institutions teach about him. You are truly gifted Dr.Sledge. thank you for your wisdom and good teaching.
Found your channel about a month ago. I enjoy your thought-provoking content. As a UA steamfitter I find it interesting your dad was a pipefitter
Yep, installed sprinkler systems!
Oh my god I knew this was going to be amazing.
Impressive episode 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The interactions with the Satan I've had confirmed to me the view of 'prosecuting attorney' is very correct.