Why is the War in Ukraine so deadly?
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2024
- The scale of the war in Ukraine is staggering. For context, while the British Army is just 73,000 strong. According to US officials, Ukraine’s armed forces have already suffered more than 70,000 dead and 120,000 injured.
So, what problems do Ukrainian medics face on the frontline? How are they tackling them? And what lessons should Western medics learn from the war in Ukraine?
To find out, we spoke to two volunteer medics from the Ukrainian Hospitallers Medical Battalion, Brandon Mitchell and Iryna Knyzhnyk. They shared their experiences on the frontlines of the War in Ukraine.
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These two medics are so very candid about the circumstances that they have to overcome... My heart goes out to them... I cannot overstate my respect for them... 😮
Another huge issue with the Ukrainian Medical system is the very high rate of HIV/AIDS in the country. The highest in Europe and one of the highest outside of Africa.
This war won't help.
You are correct I wonder how they get the strength so much death
In Vietnam a wounded US soldier on average would be in a hospital faster than a civilian in the US would be because of air evacuation. Getting control of the airspace would go a long way to helping soldiers to survive in Ukraine. No only in that wounded could be airlifted out but in suppressing artillery.
Getting control of airspace? What about availability of aircraft?
Tens of thousands of prosthetic limbs for after the conflict.
I thought you were referring to the US healthcare system that instead of riding an ambulance, you use a taxi because the ride costs more than an taxi.
All aircraft would be taken out before they'd make it to pick up casualties. This is not Vietnam, no Western armies faced this new facet in warfare. Russia can demolish all European armies as things are. EU is a paper tiger as it stands now, no point continuing this nonsense.
@@warhammer8867 During my stay in the US, helicopters were still being used as ambulances (for longer hauls I guess).. in just 20 years... it is taxis!
I didn't realize the UK only had 73k troops.
We are a naval power not a land power. France Germany and Poland focus heavily on their army, we focus heavily on our Navy. You cant do everything unless youre a super power unfortunately.
Sadly true - and the current (Tory!! Who'd believe it?) government is allowing it to reduce.
@@limitlessLtdlame right
@@kareemdurrant139 Not really.
Yes the numbers are low but historically we have always focused on naval power.
@@limitlessLtd A naval power with propellors that fall off aircraft carriers.
Artillery has always been the biggest killer on the battlefield since the First World War; the proliferation and use of drones as seen in Ukraine has made artillery even deadlier.
I'd say that although drones have made artillery more deadly that drones themselves are now the number one killer in Ukraine. You can hide from artillery strikes and survive even intense barrages however with suicide drones and explosive dropping drones, they have become mini precision guided weapons that troops cannot escape from.
Cheap and plentiful there are so many targets on the battlefield these days that you can now strike with drones that you probably wouldn't want to waste an artillery shell on even if you could hit it with one shot. Right now there's no scarier weapon on the battlefield than an armed drone piloted by a good operator.
No, small arms are and always have been
It's not known as the Queen of the battlefield for nothing.
@@TheRealBatCave Approx 70% of casualties in WW2 was to ordnance.
@@TheRealBatCave Since the first world war the majority of casualties have been caused by indirect fire.
Russia has had a x6-x10 advantage in artillery usage throughout the war. And between 70-80% of casualties is the result of artillery, yet we're told Russia has x3 or even 4x the casualty rate. Just in case you thought the casualty numbers aren't just made up nonsense.
In the first year artillery played a lesser role, and the tactics used by Russians that were similar to WWII tactics caused serious losses in the attacking Russian forces,while Ukrainians on defense had many privileges. Russian forces had poor logistics and poor command in addition to short supply of ammo , recently this has changed dramatically, the Russians are back in full strength.
Well yeah dude its the same in early 2000s with "terrorism", manufacture consent to get the voters support... Aka propaganda..
The casualty numbers therefore, on the Ukrainian side, are a factor of 8 to 10 times to that of the Russian army.
Ukraine has lost 1/2 million men in battle. This thing is over.
@@RoscoPColtrane17 no bro, not even russia has and they are the attacker which is more difficult and storming trenches is very deadly, often they use troops as meathshields or until Ukrainians have no ammo
Thanks for having us at IWM
Brandon you are the best! We appreciate all of your efforts for Ukraine!
Please keep safe
Brandon Mitchell has a fantastic set of interviews over at Lindybeige's channel.
Not really , he is such a doomer. Listening to him is such a chore. He is such a downer.
Why is he putting on a Ukrainian accent?
@@antoniofra1455 that is clearly not an ukrainian accent
73k troops is insanely low.
It's more like 500k
don’t worry, none of russian vatniks will pass the British border
Add manchester united fans and you will have an even bigger army
@@ChrisEdling And 500k is insanely high. Give your head a wobble.
500k is a better estimate. A lot of soldiers have died as the average age of ukraine army is around 42 now. So yeah nearly half million soldiers died for, well, nothing...
New Technology + Old Tactics = A very bloody war
Exactly..
Like American Civil War and WW I...
and now @@duartesimoes508
More like new technology with little defense against that new technology. Drones are the biggest menace on the battlefield in Ukraine and it ain't even close and until there's some effective defense against them like a good signal jammer or something, troops on both sides will continue to get injured and killed by them.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ Quad or octo 7.62 mm with a directed and scattered triagonaliating Microphones with filters that sort of act like short range radar (without the need for a radar-signal).
I would say one can put up a protective zone for 500 meter radius around any encampment for a cost of less than $1k.
Then sure they may start mounting RPG-7 onto the drones and cause the need for the radius to extend to 1km, but still that causes them to invest more in the drones than no defense at all around the ukraine encampments.
And seriously, force them to keep 500-1000 meter distance with the surveillance drones forces the enemy to invest in more expensive optics and technology.
Then you can replace the 7.62 mm bullet with the more expensive 12.56mm one.
3:33 the "golden hour" doesn't necessarily last one hour. how long it lasts depends on your injury/condition. i.e. in case of heart failure, the golden hour only lasts a few minutes. when your chance of survival starts dropping, the golden hour ends.
The golden hour in the military is mostly related to blood loss connected to bullet or shell fragment wounds.
Singe Afghanistan there are the platinum 10 min
Temperature can affect things as well. Soldiers without legs lasted a couple of days in the Falklands snow.
Ukraine doesn't have Air Support at all, Its really surprising theyve held out this Long .. They're Bravery & Resilience is Amazing... GodBless They're Struggle...🙏
We can all be saviours of freedom and contribute to containing Russia. For example, by donating to Ukraine24 which finances drone programmes.
@@TauNomm or let biden NEGOTIATE
They have total mobilization, we should not forget that Ukranian SSR is the second largest country by numbers and in industry after RSFSR aka Russia in whole post-USSR, Russia brought about 30% of its soldiers into this country, plus a lot of countries help Ukraine with money/equipment, satellite intelligence, they stay in the role of defenders, which is easier in terms of counter-attacks and the construction of defensive lines. There is nothing surprising in this, the usual tactics, strategy and logistics. They are not a sry for this "banana republic" or a country from the Middle East; it is at least incorrect to underestimate them. Especially in their position, above described
The most scary thing for modern war is that Ukraine is essentially a huge field with some forests in east. It is difficult to maneuver unnoticed there, everything is open and visible. Therefore, it is not surprising for both sides that the artillery and drones has taken a dominant position and now their war is essentially a game of whack-a-mole, WWI v2.0
@@mitrogulf4073your first sentence is very far from reality please don’t listen to r*ussian propaganda.
special operations units from almost all NATO countries plus mercenaries from around the world are fighting the war for Ukrainians
Great vid... production, pace, script, brevity, on-point....thanks,
Ukraine is a total war not seen in a long time, both sides similarly equipped. Poor buggers over there
They are NOT similarly equipped. Ukraine gets leftovers from NATO which takes months to even get there. Meanwhile russia has the infrastructure to transport everything right over to front lines. Russia even built a railroad from crimea into the zaporizhia region. They even built infrastructure as war is going on...
*Casualties are MUCH HIGHER* than either side will admit to.
More so since Ukraine have a massive amount of MIA...
Of course mate…its a war…but i tell you…ukraine have lost many more. I saw recently from a very reliable source that russias casualties are made up of between 40-70% of convicts. Average age of ukranian soldier on front line is 43…think about that. Meanwhile russia are recruiting between 30-50k every month and they are volunteering. Russia are about to unleash their latest fap 3000 bomb. Their fap 250..500…and 1500 are causing havoc right now. Then there are the hypersonic missiles that cant be shot down. Kiev has been under massive missile attack past 4 days…why…because they have no defence lefft. Its over. That twat zelensky should surrender now…but noooo…he wants to lower conscription age to 18…so limited training then sent as target practice for battle hardened russian soldiers. Does that make any sense to you at all. That is the usa making that call btw…they dont care about ukrainians…they just want to hold the line until after the election. Horrible bastards. Too cowardly to send their own troops against another superpower.
Russians have for sure 200K dead. They've lost whole first army that was attacking Ukraine. Regardless they have 900K big army now. Ukraine lost less than that but still too much. Plus 3 times more injured than dead.
@@Dazzxp and Russia doesn't, bot?
Thanks a lot for putting some light on the situation in Ukraine.
Also, Brandon has a channel where he shows his work as a medic, you should watch it❤
Fantastic reporting!!
Figures given by the interviewed medics don’t add up to the total number of 70k dead and 120k wounded
Been saying for years our military is far too small , if we get into a conflict like this we'll last a couple of months at best.
It depends where the war is fought and against whom. If its mainland Europe then it will be Germany France and Poland doing the bulk of the land warfare. If its some far off island that we want to keep hold of like the Falklands then our Navy is more than enough to defend it. military expenditure is about assessing the main threats to us and then focusing funding in those areas. For the UK, an Island, the main threats are naval or littoral.
Or you could just not go to war with countries for no reason
There are expanding arenas in warfare that go beyond land and physical conflict. For example space and cyber, which is a lot cheaper to engage in for longer, is now focused on a lot more and we are well backed in that regard. It's a fight that's happening right now and we don't even know it unless it affects us such as cyber attacks on our infrastructure or private companies.
Nato is there to help. No chance of uk going to war anytime soon. Fund the nhs instead
@@limitlessLtdyou forgot about the US Army??
Love these videos from this channel!
How was taking the negotiated settlement that was on the table in Istanbul worse than this?
The people who orchestrated this war wouldn't profit from an agreement, obviously.
Always interesting, IWM. Thanks 👍
Interesting how a kill-to-wound ratio of 1:3 is 25% fatalities, while a 1:3 drawing scale is 33,3%. Scale deals specifically with the relationship between drawings/models and real-life measurements. Ratio is a more general concept that compares quantities in various contexts.
I think they made a mistake...
@@jont2576 When we say “1 to 4,” we are expressing a comparison between two quantities. Specifically, it means that there is one unit of something for every four units of something else so that the total is 5. On the other hand, “1:4” or written as a fraction 1/4, tells us that there is one part of something out of a total of four parts. It is easy to be confused.
Anyone remember when UK dominated the world? 😢 4 US Divisions are larger than the entire UK Army?
No one alive remembers😂
I also remember when Rome ruled the world
This means that the United Kingdom no longer has the military capacity to commit genocides around the world, as Churchill did in India.
They dominated the world because of their Navy. They have always had a small standing army in peacetime.
The entire UK population is less than quarter of US population.
So many heros on a battlefield. Lack of air superiority and the lack of helicopter extraction is what makes the U.S. golden hour possible. Obviously when you remove air superiority you get what our Ukrainian heros have to deal with.
Tell that to the 60-70% of the Ukrainian nation that want to stay in the Russian influence sphere. Just because "your heroes" want that juicy free EU money, doesn't make Ukraine "yours"..
This is a fascinating look into why the deaths per capita/group of casualties are so incredibly high as opposed to the war in the middle east. Excellent video - i learned a lot from this.
This guy is the best narrator ❤
We all know the Ukrainian losses are much higher....remember when the number was accidental said outloud by the EU witch ?
60000 shells per day calculate much more than 70000 casualties
In war hospitals were used to open fire on the opposite side for many reasons, once the opposite side realize where the fire is coming from they will respond, than hospital becomes "legal" military target...like war in Bosnia 92-95...
There is no shortage of documentation of Ukraine, using hospitals as observation posts, weapons platforms, and garrisons. Ukraine fills their hospitals with armed fighters, that breaks the protected status they normally have. The same is true, for Ukraine, stocking, armed men into ambulances and using them as a way to put fighters on the front or sneak them out of corridors. By doing these things, the Russians have no reason to believe that Ukraine is being honest anywhere it claims something has protected status because they do this so frequently. It’s also the same with Ukraine, putting its arm soldiers in places like schools and churches to exploit their protective status but the thing is if you try to explode it, it makes the protected status go away. Amnesty international has a report on Ukraine abusing protections as well as human shields so it’s not Russian propaganda that Ukraine is doing this and Russia is within their right to fire upon such things if they are being abused.
The 10% of hospitals includes the entire country even 100s of kilometers from any fighting
@@acmelka You remember that volunteer redditor who posted a picture of his barracks with the location online and the Russians blow it up with a missile, the barracks was a elementary school.
Fascinating
I spent a year at what could have be described as a MASH unit with no Nurses. I can't imagine what they are going thru with the type and the number casualties. May they have the fortitude, supplies and support needed the do there job and maintain there mental strength.
I really must appreciate this channel. I came here from a similar channel that couldnt keep it's strong anti-Russian stance from clouding its story-telling. I'd have thought a channel like this would be much worse but alas, the bbc doesn't reflect British character afterall
You just earned a subscriber🎉🎉🎉
But Zelensky said Ukraine only had 30k losses.
There's a lot of nuances with numbers.
First is just getting a good count. Especially since during a war, going out of your way to count how many soldiers were killed isn't really a priority.
2nd, whose numbers do you trust?
How would he know? He's on a beach in his seafront mansion in St Tropez - waiting for his staff to clean his Aventador. His new yellow Rolls-Royce is in for a service and the silver one is having the brightwork plated in 24 Carat gold
😂😂😂
Bot.
@@gibson617ajg
of course ukraine doesnt want the west to think they are losing and helping a lost cause
Anyone know if the paramedic known as ‘Little One’ is okay?
Russia has shot over 60,000 shells per day but only 70k killed? I'm not saying that isn't a lot but I would have guessed artillery was much more efficient than roughly 1 person killed per 1,000 shells fired.
The actual number is somewhere between 400k to 800k potential Ukrainian casualties. According to Yuriy Lutsenko "former Ukrainian prosecutor general" Ukraine is losing close to 30k soldiers a month with upwards of 500,000 dead. Zelensky himself said Ukraine is suffering 500 casualties a day. Also the Russians aren't using 60k shells per day, that's just a theoretical number of shells all their artillery pieces can fire in a day that an analyst came up with and journalists have mistakenly repeated. The real number is somewhere between 5-10k, Ukraine is using 2-3k on average. With a high point of 20k shells used by the Russians during the battle of Bakhmut and 6-8k for Ukraine during it's summer counter offensive.
@@srijanme From this video. Did you watch it? If you think that number sounds incredible, I did too and that's why I made the comment
@@robertalaverdov8147 800k casualties? LOL ok I guess russia is fighting struggling fighting a war against an army of ghosts then
@@TheRuthlessEAZY The quote isn't mine but that of a Ukrainian official. It's ok I've noticed how the typical Ukraine supporters lack reading and comprehensions skills. And the Russians aren't fighting ghosts but making them. And whatever unfortunate souls the Kiev regime can throw into the meatgrinder. Ukraine has active press gangs of which you'll find thousands of videos online. They are openly talking about conscripting women and teenagers. The average age is 43 and rising. Every western article that has an interview with a Ukrainian unit states they they've lost from a half to 90% of their original people since the war began and that the replacements can't keep up. There is nothing of the sort appearing on the Russian side. All this information out there and you chose to be ignorant of it. The end result will be the same. The Russians will win and the scale of Ukrainian losses will be revealed as absurdly high for a pointless cause.
Now this is a symmetric war
Near peer warfare puts all combatants equal risk. Tactical and strategic considerations can only mitigate human toll .
Side note. Russia fires 10 times more, and thats without drones and air force. So if you think that Russia has lost more than Ukraine you are insane.
Correct. And this is 10 times more any normal day, much more other days. Also missiles, rockets, bombs, drones, all Russian massive advantage. Roughly 30-40 times as many explosions on the Ukr side, every day. And yet, somehow... Russia is losing... Insane is an understatement.
Ukraine is defending, its troops are well protected. Russians are attacking in human waves with ex-convicts and freshly mobilized inexperienced troops. Of course, russian casualties will be MUCH higher.
Russian artillery is extremely inaccurate so they use it to saturate an area, the vast majority of shells and rockets don't hit anything of value but due to the sheer amount fired they still inflict heavy damage and account for the majority of Ukrainian casualties. On the other hand, Russia suffers insane number of casualties in frontal assaults on Ukrainian positions, to Ukrainian FPV drones and drone-dropped grenades. In addition to that, Ukraine has inflict heavy casualties on Russia using HIMARS for precision strikes, in contrast to how Russia uses its own artillery. In the Battle of Avdiivka alone in 4 months Russia lost twice as many combat vehicles as Ukraine did on the entire front over 9 months (which includes the failed counteroffensive).
@tommyboman7735Losing...😂😂😂 A forward retreat...😂😂😂
@@blasty137 incorrect as the vehicles ended back in Russian hands the same day. Only 20% of Ukraines artillery is modern, the rest is old soviet stuff and mortars. HIMARS need GPS and Russia controls the gps. HIMARS is map firing at the moment like normal artillery. A reason why scalp misiles are used is they don't need GPS.
A polish retired general recently stated Ukrainian casualties were over 1 million dead and wounded. The true extent of the horror of this conflict is being hidden from us.
You'd have to be taking some seriously awesome drugs to believe that Ukraine has taken 1 million casualties. I mean its not as low as Ukraine publicly acknowledges, but 1 million is laughable. With that number there wouldn't be many troops left on the frontlines and Russia should be rolling through Ukraine by now.
Also I'm curious if you really believe Ukrainians have taken 1 million casualties, then what do you believe the casualty number is for Russia?
important video 🙏
The story of higher casualities on the Russian side has only one goal: Keeping up the very low war morale in the West.
1 Ruble for you comrade.
@@EvoraGT430 The truth is harsh. Waidmann's Hail from Germany. CIA bot.
Could you do one on how to end war/s?
It's mad to think we used over 131k of troops on one exercise in 1984 and still had 30k in NI and all the others manning our overseas posts like gib,cyprus,falklands,hong kong etc.Compare to today.
A huge impact to this would be the kind of ballistic helmets they are wearing. Modern helmets are not tested compared to even ancient helmets. They adapt based on what is in style, what looks cool. The current FAST helmet rated SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than a French WW1 helmet made of leather. Let that sink in. They aren't ballistic rated to stop rifle rounds. And they kill you if you get hit with artillery. But they're basically all we have right now. That or Chinese knock offs which get even more people killed.
Brandon Mitchell and all volunteers try their hardest too support the army of Ukraine 🇺🇦 with there hearts ❤ please all of the democratic world support even more or we are next, all of the free world. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 from all in Wales 🏴 🐑
you seriously think the russians are going to invate Wales?
Russian Bear will not bow to western expansion Uraaa 🇷🇺
Very informative video.
Artillery has always been the big killer in warfare. It also causes a high percentage of the badly wounded because of the massive blast radius and shrapnel.
Artillery is semi direct. it is aimed at an area, normally. Not a particular person.
That means it is used against massed enemy formations like platoon or battalion sized units.
Some of the shells being lobbed at these men contain 100-200 lbs of modern high explosive.
By contrast a hand grenade, which is a very deadly weapon contains at most half a pound of TNT PETN or RDX.
I don't know the data exactly but I wouldn't want to be within 50 yards of a 203mm shell when it lands.
That's a huge damage radius.
Then you've got mortars, grenades, bombs, rockets, missiles.
Men carry rifles into battle but they kill each other with the big guns.
Drones are the new deadliest weapon on the battlefield now. I don't think there's a more frightening sight than seeing a drone coming towards you and knowing that its going to be hard if not near impossible to dodge one or more attack drones if the enemy drone operator really wants to kill you.
If there's one weapons system that I could completely remove from my enemy's arsenal it would be drones of all types.
@8:20 ‘to prove it was not sold’
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Yep, because Russian and Right Wing media are pushing that misinformation. I have seen so many comments saying Ukraine is selling the weapons to Hamas etc.
Good on you Brandon.
Australia has 85000 personnel. Let's hope something changes for the better soon for Ukraine.
Well-made video.
Doesnt anyone here understand the concept of peace time military?
Ofcourse its smaller than durimg wartime since maintaining a war time scake fighting force is very very expensive.
Apparently many don't.
This applies to a tiny country like mine, Jordan, we have the same number of active army personnel, but UK projects power all around the war, tens of bases, and has been watching a more belligerent Russia for 10 year, it makes sense to invest more in peacetime army.
I can't even begin to imagine the level of PTSD these medics and doctors are going to suffer from.
The casualties Ukraine has suffered is much higher. It’s improbable to has lost only 70000 dead and yet kidnapping able bodied men (or not) daily to draft into the military
Ukrainians have definitely lost alot of men, but the Russians have lost even much more. If the Ukrainians and Russians both had the same population size, Russia would've ended this war a long time ago with all their losses. Right now they're staying in the fight solely because of the size of their army and their ability to draw from a much larger pool of men to throw their lives away in Ukraine.
Its crazy to see countless videos of Russian losses everyday and yet they still keep attacking without a care in the world with how many men and how much equipment they lose as long as they achieve their objectives.
Polish General Andrzejcak speaks about a Million casualties....
It's a weird situation from the US perspective. Just the idea you don't have enough TACAIR to burn out red force artillery is a strange concept.
What are reputable ways to send help?
Stop sending money and weapons
The best thing to do is to start upgrading NATO nation's preparedness, not just aid Ukraine.
So 70% of casualties are incurred with artillery, Russia fires 7:1 more shells than Ukraine, but "is thought to have far greater losses" than Ukraine? How does that work?
Propoganda, like the us victory in Vietnam and Afghanistan
Do you not understand how percentages work? It is possible to have less artillery than the enemy and still inflict higher casualties while also attributing 70% of your own casualties to enemy artillery fire. Nothing contradicts itself in that statement. It's also possible, with better training, equipment and morale, to cause more casualties to the enemy even if outnumbered. In fact, this is the norm for outnumbered, defending armies.
Maybe their targeting is not as good as Ukraine has?
70% of *Ukrainian* casualties are incurred with artillery, Russia loses far more troops to FPV drones, small arms and direct fire during assaults.
@@simonkevnorris doubtful that even if it was (it’s not, since both sides have many drones correcting their arty) that it somehow swings the numbers more than x7 in their advantage
It's the artillery. Again.
Russia is dropping over 15,000 152mm artillery shells per day, those rounds and russian glide ordnance is currently hammering Ukrainian forces the most.
God bless
Quick maths time
According to this, 60,000 artillery rounds per day have been fired by Russia so after two years thats over 42,000,000 rounds.
And are responsible for over 70% of Ukrainian casualties.
Meanwhile Ukraine has lucky to be 5,000,000.
So with 70% casualties caused by atry, how exactly would Russia have more casualties?
Because Russia hasn't been firing 60k shells consistently for the past 2+ years? That was only for a brief period of time that they were firing so many until they too were suffering a shell shortage to a degree which is why they're buying shells from North Korea.
Also that 70% casualty rate from artillery doesn't apply to this war because drones have been causing a large proportion of casualties these days and might've even overtaken artillery as being the biggest cause of casualties.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ nope, the whole war Russia has had roughly a 10/1 arty advantage while simultaneously out producing NATO in arty rounds.
America only has a single factory making 150mm while Russia has multiple.
Also they are made producing drones and high end ones at that (eg lancet).
Truth is, Ukraine casualties are too high for the world to cope with so they aren't being told the true numbers.
If you doubt this, why is France talking about sending troops to western Ukraine if not to free up those Ukrainian troops to man the eastern line?
Or why there are countless videos of press gangs rounding up what Ukrainian men they can find.
Or why Ukraine is demanding all men that fled into west Europe must be returned to fight?
Or why they are now resorting to terror attacks and odd attacks into Russia proper?
It's not simply about quantity, but also accuracy, concentration of troops and effectiveness of defences.
@@tommyt4259
*nope, the whole war Russia has had roughly a 10/1 arty advantage while simultaneously out producing NATO in arty rounds.*
Russia is outproducing NATO countries in arty rounds because Russia relies much more on arty than NATO does. When you have vastly superior airforces and have tons more precision guided missiles you tend to rely less on artillery to support your troops.
Also you don't take into account that NATO nations are ramping up their arty shell production and have a much greater capacity to produce shells as well as every other type of modern weapon compared to Russia if they chose to put more funding towards it which they're currently doing now.
*Also they are made producing drones and high end ones at that (eg lancet). Truth is, Ukraine casualties are too high for the world to cope with so they aren't being told the true numbers.*
I think anyone who has followed the war closely would acknowledge that Ukraine has taken significant casualties, but you'd have to be INSANE to also not acknowledge that the Russians have taken far, FAR more casualties during this war.
You can't have watched all the videos from this war and see how the Russians really don't give a damn about their troops and how many casualties they take as long as they achieve their objectives. To put it simply if Ukraine and Russia both had about the same population size, the Russians would've ended this war LONG AGO because of the massive losses they've taken. This war wouldn't be going into the 3rd year and Russia would've either retreated or been pushed out of most if not all of Ukraine by now.
If Russia was doing so well and taking so few casualties then they wouldn't be announcing another wave of mobilization for 300,000 more troops just a few days ago would they? Like I said if they had the population size the same as Ukraine they would've been done for by now.
You lost me when you said Ukraine has only had 70k losses and Russia has had more losses. No way!
At 0:33 "during first day we had 180 severe casualties"
As usually if you have 180 WIA; your unit had at least 50 KIA
And we are talking about short front line and particular unit.
How possible during 750 days... loosing by 450 - 600 KIA daily - you come up with just 70.000 KIA?,
Artillery is the indisputable king of battle.
Drones have overtaken artillery as the biggest killer on the battlefield.
1:44 Russia has shot 60 thousand shells per day?! I don’t think that’s anywhere near correct. I believe I remember hearing they shoot 10k shells per day.
Currently Russia use around 10k per 24H
but the tops for russia has been as high as 80-90k per 24H
Ukraine is currently in an extreme disadvantage due to massive lack of shells from west.
They are currently using around 1k per 24H.
the highes they have had is about 9k per 24H and that was during the start of last summers Offensive battles.
They have plugged some parts of the massive shortage with Drones but that is only a short term stopgap.
Artillery is an extreamly important part of any offensive operation as it also protects forward attack infatery.
that is something no Drone system ever can hope to achive in a large enough scale.
that's correct. at the beginning of the war (Mariupol, Rubizhne, etc), russian artillery fired up to 60k/day. But since they planned for a quick offensive, the 60k/day wasn't sustainable, and within months it dropped to 10k.
The reason it took russians many months to capture Bakhmut and Avdiivka is b/c they no longer can 60k/day. So what russians are doing now is using heavy 250-500kg glide bombs to supplement their artillery (so-called "KABs). These have been effective, and Ukraine is trying to knock off as many russian Su-34 (bombers) as they can.
The number is close to correct
@@danielkarlsson9326 thanks for the info!
On that - right bank of the Dnepr river, ukrainian/NATO forces lost almost 4 brigades in 5 - 5,5 month
They deployed by boats 100 soldiers... Only 45 - 50 of them able to reach tranches on the right bank.
In 24 - 48 hours later maybe 5 - 7 still not wounded...
and 10 % for the big guy !
It is tragic so many Ukrainian servicemen lost their lives and many permanently maimed by the conflict. Many were probably hastily thrown into rushed offensives to show “progress” in order to elicit military aid.
Sounds exactly like what the Russians have been doing for most of this war which is why they said a few days ago that they would mobilize another 300,000 new troops.
70% losses, because the Artillery, had we, the Germans, in the East, in World War 2, too!
30% to 50% of medical supplies donated from other countries had to be thrown in the bin... even if it concerns only certain types of medical equipment like tourniquets, and the figures are anecdotal estimates, it shows that in a real war situation many militaries including those of NATO countries will struggle to provide adequate medical care simply because the equipment is not tested in realistic conditions...
The real Ukraine KIA is much higher as there have been 400,000 obituaries written and published in Ukraine over the last 2 years.
Does that include civilians would you know?
Do you have a source for that 400k number for Ukraine? I don't doubt that the Ukrainians are taking significant losses, but I doubt its 400k killed though.
So the Ukrainian military need another 500,000 soldiers. Why do you think that is???? Because they have lost that many. It's simple maths. I will also find a source for the obituaries written as well.
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Ukrainians need more soldiers not only to replaces their losses, but also to relieve many of their units who have been fighting since the beginning of the war. You can't keep soldiers on the frontlines forever without taking them off the battlefield and allowing them to rest and recover.
Also why don't you mention the heavy losses that the Russians have taken and how they're also constantly trying to recruit new men to throw into the war? And the Russians definitely aren't doing well when they're taking so much equipment from the Cold War era out of storage to use in Ukraine.
Can you ever imagine the US losing so much equipment in a war that they would be forced to bring equipment from back in the 1960s or even earlier to use in a 21st century war? I certainly can't and yet here we see the Russians doing that very thing during the Ukraine war.
It's already far over 400k. Kujat and Mc Gregor stating that.
This is why armour is so important.
Does the western armies have artillery location tracking weapon?
Yes
This is sad.But Ukraine has managed to have less casualties compared to Russia.If Ukraine's situation is like this,what about Russia's?
Russia having more losses is laughable
@@poppystars9005Why is it?just because you have inaccurate artillery doesn't mean you have less casualties.they lost already over 2800 tanks and more than 700 artilleries to Ukraine...Its all about ground tactics that judges who will have more casualties.Rusaia might have more shells but definitely poor in tactics.Ukraine has in many times won the counter battery battles,their tactics even during the Robotyne offensive was quickly changed from armored assault to squads of about 12 men.The M777,archer and ceasers are much more accurate.Now Ukraine will have parity in artillery after Czech initiative which found even more 700k shells summing up to 1.5 million shells without counting the 1 million shells promised by EU,Ukraine's reserves and production,America and Canada...plus accurate himars
@@poppystars9005you've not even seen the Russian medical team...they use the BMP 1 for medical purposes.That cannot even stop shrapnel from shells which blow near the vehicle.In many videos,Russians have abandoned their wounded,and with exposed attacks either by foot or armored vehicle done by the Russians make it even much difficult to procure the wounded as they are the ones in the offensive.Check the reports made by the spetznats and naval brigades of Russia when they were attacking Vuhledar...They appealed to their provincial governor twice during that battle due to high loses and poor tactics.Same goes for battle of Bakhmut when prighozin laid dead soldiers behind him claiming inadequate ammo delivery...Don't even talk about Russia's top down system which does not monitor organisation within lower ranks...In Kherson when a battalion waited for their general out in the field and were targeted by himars rockets...and then moments later when other men came to collect the dead solders were targeted by glsb bombs...Poor tactics
@@collinsmutethia5198 well if your argument is Russian equipment is inaccurate that too is laughable. Ukraine has fought mostly with Russia/Soviet era equipment…what they had and all of eastern block NATO members sold the US to donate what they had to Ukraine. Yes we have trickled in some Bradley’s, Abrums, Javelins, portable SAM’s,and a few other outdated systems no better than Russian equivalents. To the tune of 100’s of billions. Lots of the money was spent on AD as well. But Ukraine built an army on the fly, and its line of contact trench warfare so yes Russia has had the upper hand for sure. And a way better injured recovery process. And one day when an honest account becomes available you may be shocked but I won’t. 2.5 million deaths in Korea in 3 years fighting this way.
I imagine it's somewhat similiar, though further research may be needed.
Ukraine said a few weeks ago. The total soilders death was 30,000. Not 70,000. Which number is true?
Likely more than both combined
Neither. It's much much higher. Maybe a million casualties according to some. Russian and seperatist Ukrainian losses are much lower but still around 70k KIA
The official number is never reliable for obvious reasons. Forget those releases. All we can assume is that ruzzian losses are huge and Ukrainian losses are lower but extremely high nevertheless. And I bet we will never know further, at least from the ruzzian side where, I believe _no one_ knows for sure nor cares to know.
@@JesterEric i think ukraine has suffered 200 000 casualties
@@mikaelvanzyldouble this
Why was ww1 a stalemate meat grinder until tanks and airplanes rolled in?
Wrong. Where does ur "knowledge" come from?
Tanks had very little effect on the war they where slow and easily taken out with Artillery you could walk faster then a ww1 tank on the Eastern Front, Aircraft where good in photo reconnaissance roles this is why fighter planes where created to escort recon planes and take out enemy recon planes. The Naval Blockade of Germany is what broke them.
It was still a stalemate meat grinder after that.
Just because of the drones. You can hide or avoid artillery shells and gunfire but with the drones, you can't. there is no hiding place from the drones.
Зеленский сказал, что погибла 31 000 человек.
Все нормально. Западные СМИ нагнетают.
Drones and massively advanced anti tank weapons brought the war back to the trenches not to mention lack of air superiority
Weird how they keep "running out" of ammo in Ukraine, maybe if they were actually using it in Ukraine it might make a difference in Ukraine.
Full scale war burns through ammo like you wouldn't believe which is why even a huge nation like Russia is looking for external help in supplying its troops.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ doesn't explain why Ukraine is operating in Africa. So again, why are we enabling forever war? 😒
In Vietnam the US suffered around 58k fatalities over 6 years, Russia has lost twice as many in Ukraine in two years.
Military technology doesn't compare between then and now. It's what making the death toll that high.
The US also lost over 10,000 rotary, jet and other aircraft. Russia hasn't lost 5% of that yet...
US relied on massive amounts of airpower and large volumes of artillery when it could.
@@BroadHobbyProjects That's because the US gloves weren't off until 1972,look what happened when they off for just 6 days allowed to target what they should've been from the start.
@@SnakePliskin762 It doesn't matter. They lost plenty throughout the war. Phantoms for instance were more of an interceptor compared to the more agile migs up close until changes were made.
Vietnam was supplied by the USSR & China with a lot of anti air systems and aircraft too.
Just like how 57+ nations are now supporting the war in Ukraine against Russia.
Point still stands.
@@BroadHobbyProjects it's an entirely different kind of conflict compare it more so to the us losses against Iraq in gw1 as to ratios,tech and size of opponents. A few gepards and patriots is not 50 countries. If it of been 50 countries,we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Because as an ex squaddie everyone realizes we are on the wrong side.
War inherently is dangerous.
I doubt if the Russian casualty is more, I think is 5 times less
If you really believe Russian casualties are so low then why did they just declare that they were going to mobilize at least 300,000 new troops just a few days ago?
@@UzumakiNaruto_ Mr Shoigu debunked that, mind the Russian troops do have 2-3 days rest of rotation, while the Ukrainian do not
I'm never sure what exactly is meant when people speak of "The West". It's said like a thing one is expected to automatically identify with, but with only a vague idea of what it is. If you mean NATO, why not say that.
I think perhaps it's kept deliberately vague, so what it means can be decided later for whatever is convenient at the time.
Ukrainian estimates are too low. Estimates from sources point to almost an almost 1:1 ratio of KIA for Russia and Ukraine. Which if being conservative is about 400,000.
Yeah, even some American sources state that.
😆 What source for such claims?
Col. Mc Gregor and Gen. Kujat. Nothing to laugh about, kid. Grow up.@@tomfu9909
Col Mc Gregor and Gen Kujat.@@tomfu9909
Gen Kujat and Col McGregor. Laugh more kiddo. Russia will tell you otherwise.@@tomfu9909
And they accept just the small amount of territory gained and that's it . If any was advanced
"Why is the War in Ukraine so deadly?" is there a war that is not deadly? isn't war deadly by definition?
Both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren't deadly. Western forces had very low losses given that we've spent 20 years there. Especially if you compare it to a conventional war.
@@DerDudelino I guess the losses on the other side are not considered deadly enough for you by your standards?
Don’t go to war number one lesson.
I don't think Ukraine had much choice.
@@simonkevnorris Would you care to tell us why?
@@simonkevnorris Russia or dead I think Russia wins we are worse than Russia 🇷🇺 just look at the state of the place getting invaded as we speak.
@@gibson617ajg Coz they are under attack?
@@simonkevnorrisUkraine started the war. Go watch col. Douglas macgregor
I was shocked to find out they don't know and aren't taught (and actively resist being taught) ARS, or needle chest decompression - this accounts for 33% of battlefield casualties, meaning 33% of all people who have died in Ukraine needn't have died. That's tens of thousands of human lives, all because they don't want to mess around with a catheter and are squeamish about shoving a needle into someones rib cage.
Geneva suggestion
The Russians have far more artillery and munitions. Why would you say they have more casualties than the Ukraine army?
Probably they keep throwing bodies at the enemy. But yeah, Ukraine took 10 billion KIA while Russia suffers only 50k. Putin told me so!
Russia is pushing. Ukraine has the tactical advantage of slow retreat and picking where they defend from and where they dont defend. In Bakhmut, and Andiivka, the estimated loss ratios Russia to Ukraine are 6/1 or 7/1. What Ukraine would do is wire up buildings to be blown up, retreat, and when the Russians took the building, they would blow it up. That was a common tactic used in Bkhmut. Near andiivka, even though the ukrainians pulled out, they are pulling back to an area that has higher ground, so you can put up snipers, and they can see for miles. The summer offensive last year flipped the causualty ratio as ukraine has basically no experienced soldiers to attack, so when Ukraine pushes russians back, they lose lives.
Because Russia are mostly attacking and Ukraine mostly defending. Statistics from all wars fought shows the attacking side lose on average 3 times as many soldiers as the defending side.
Easy.
Their artillery is very old and inaccurate.
Second they dont have as much ammo anymore and have to buy from NK.
Third they send their man in meat waves which get cut down.
because in the west its forbidden to tell the truth
Stating Ukraine has less than 500k casualties is comical. US and NATO estimates always deflate Ukrainian losses and heavily inflate Russian ones. Looking at the firepower disparity, it's easy to understand which side is getting pummeled.
The real numbers are about 5-6 times higher.
73K British troop but that number could be 173k they'll still do nothing.
Butt some they think 400000lost....
if Russia fired 60,000 shells daily and received back just 7,000 - who have more losses? Russia or NATO?
and if boris hadn't poked his nose in and tell ukraine to keep on fighting it would have been over after a few days
Because it is a return to WW I, one of the worst conflicts of the start of the modern age,
The Ukrainian military only has 34 helicopters 🤔 while Russia has 544.
And yet the Russians can't use their airforce anywhere over Ukraine where the Ukrainians are because they'll likely get shot down and so they're relegated to only operating behind their own lines.
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