Myrcella's murder was such a disgrace to Oberyn's memory. He would never have even considered harming her for anything her family did. He prided himself on Dorn's protective culture in regard to children. He died trying to avenge the murder of an innocent woman and her children. Disgraceful.
The plot line was a play to the history of the Prussians in our world where much of the political machinations was weilded surredeptiously by the wives and consorts in the harem. If course, the similarities are extremely loose, in our world when one became Sultan one would murder all brothers and half brothers to avoid the throne being challenged at a later date hence the consort of one ruler would rarely be taken or protected by the brother of a fallen ruler.
"died peacefully" she didn't drop and boom she's dead. She was choking in her few moments before passing away. Her death wasn't peaceful, like most people who get poisoned.
@@lotsoflaughs13ify Eh. Five minutes of intense terror and pain, in an otherwise paradisaical life as a beautiful princess. She got to experience love, luxury, beauty, and die before seeing the world consumed by the white walkers. Still a win.
@@mesmer3780 Yes from your explanation she did *live* peacefully, but it's not the same as *dying* peacefully, which is what I am pertaining to. Dying peacefully is like dying while you're asleep because usually your calm and relaxed when you're sleeping. You feel no pain when it's a peaceful death, which apparently wasn't the type of death Myrcella experienced.
@@joevines3428 not necessarily. just driven more by their anger. manipulated by their mother. i doubt they would have killed her on their own, i feel like most of it was ellarias idea
omg that is so true! I have come to like Jaime and his development towards being a sort-of honorable guy, but I can never forget that he pushed a CHILD to his 'almost' death.
@@lawfulhusbands Yeah, his intention was to kill Bran IN ORDER TO save Cersei and her THREE children. In the books, even Ned thinks about what he would do if it was the life of some unknown child vs. the lives of Robb, Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon. He didn't know and prayed he never would.
@Va Lin Martin already admitted that he got inspired from shakespeare and many other great writers. Hollywood is not the right place for great stories.
Worse than Cersei. Cersei didn't have any hand in Elia or Oberyn's death. Oberyn volunteering for Tyrion was totally unexpected. It's one of the few times in the series where Cersei is definitely innocent.
I liked Ellaria in the books. In the books, she was against the Martells desire for revenge. Yes, she was distraught watching the love of her life die in front of her, but she was more concerned about her daughters' well-being.
@@KitsuneADestiny Forgetting Ellaria from the book. GOT Ellaria plot... didnt make any sense. Considering that Oberyn said to Cersei, that in Dorne, the mistakes of the fathers dont reflect in the kids. So, Ellaria wouldnt never touch Myrcella by that idea... I could understand sand snakes, could share that opinion to kill a Lannister, they were young lost their father in a combat, that for them didnt make any sense and assume it was a murder. But Ellaria!?
Nope. Mycella's death was another one of Tyrion's clever mistakes. Though you might not like it, Cersei is a far better judge of people's character than Tyrion. It was another of Tyrion's many mistakes where people end up dead. On this list of mistakes are Olenna, Casterly Rock, Yara Greyjoy and her fleet, Ellaria Sand and her daughters, Thoros of Myr, Shea & Tywin.
@@ctruth6185 If cersei didnt insisted putting Tyrion as guilty of Joffrey murder, Oberyn wouldn't had fought for him. It was Cersei desire to and stupity to destroy tyrion that lead to this... Tyrion didn't do mistake by matching Myrcella with Tristan, he knew that Martell's wouldnt never hurt her or mistreated her. It was Ellaria blindness and passion that seal Myrcella fate. But, if Cersei understood tyrion, she knew, he wouldnt never kill his nieces. He love them all.
C Truth Nah, Cersei’s stupidity led to Oberyn getting killed, which then led to her daughter getting killed in retaliation. The fact that she was foolish enough to relish Oberyn’s death just shows how blinded she was by hate.
If Doran were not so soft, then everything would be fine. Ellaria and her daughters have repeatedly shown that they do not care about the ruler Doran and his relationship with the king. They had their plans for revenge and they did not hide them. This was quite enough to at least take them into custody. And in the best case - executed for treason.
I just realized Jaime never got the chance to tell his kids he loved them as a father...he watched them but they never recognized him as their father. But Myrcella knew and that's, really really sad. He finally has that moment and seconds later, it's ripped away from him.
@Tatiyana Sutherland how do you know ? Myrcella knew and Tommen could have guessed at some point, but I don't think Joffrey knew, he always despised Jaime and was proud of being Robert's son
Joffrey had heard the rumours, but was probably in denial about it. As you said, he wanted to be Robert's son. Tommen probably felt the same way. Myrcella was the only one who embraced Jamie as her father. But the chance for him to have a real relationship with her was taken away. It's a very sad scene.
This is the only thing I liked about show's version of Dornish plot. Myrcella and Jaime's conversation. It is really sad that they butchered Dorne so much after Oberyn's death (wear helmet, kids). They are truly badasses and they were the only match for Targaeryens when they had dragons. "We will bring you fire and blood." "Your words. Ours are Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken." If anyone is interested what was Dorne really up to... (spoilers) As Oberyn puts it, his sister, wife of Rhaegar, was raped and killed by Lannisters. He wants revenge, but his older brother Doran is more patient and calculating. Doran's daughter Arianne (smart girl who uses her wits and sexuality - close to Cersei, but much more likeable) and Oberyn wants to use Dornish laws (the oldest child inherits, not the oldest son) to make Myrcella the Queen. Myrcella in the books is around 10 years old, she is fierce and smart for her age, she even have courage to talk back to Joffrey. She is basically how Cersei sees herself - as a strong lioness (fun fact - Cersei blames everyone that they don't take her seriously because of her gender, but she doesn't give a shit about Myrcella and favoures her beloved Joffrey). Arianne tries to finish what her uncle started, but Doran stops her and reveals his plan: making an alliance with Targaryens. Viserys was supposed to marry Arianne, after his death Doran sends Arianne's brother to Dany and Arianne to man who claimes he is Aegon, son of Rhaegar and Elia. Showrunners were afraid that fans would be lost and uninterested, so they butchered Dorne. Dorne is not about strong women killing men and calling it success. Dorne is about equality, being strong together (just like Starks or Tyrells). They are okay with their sexuality... and god, they are insteresting in the books. All of the Kingdoms united by Aegon, except for Dorne. It almost seemed like they were testing Targaryens (even if they were not part of Kingdoms, they still mourned death of the greatest King Jaeherys I.).
It broke my heart when she died. I thought this couple was going to be the "price & princess" of game of thrones. But this is not a disney film is it? Good people die so quickly in this series...
The problem with this show is that they kinda killed characters right to left so in order to not run out of them in the later seasons, they just all developed massive plot armours.
in the beginning, cerise is talking about how she doesn't know where Myrcella's goodness came from, but now? It's Jamie. She's so much like her father. Jamie is secretly a romantic and Myrcella was ready to marry the love of her life and it was all taken away from her because of her mother. She loved that prince
It melted my heart when marcella said to jami that she knows he is her father, and at last jamie's eyes were giving expressions like at least one child understood his feelings truly and she said she is glad for that. I really felt the the man jamie reached his peace at last. But everything is lost in the next minute as the beautiful, innocent and kind hearted mercella fell in jamie's arms in her last moments.
I don't even know if I called it 'love.' I think it's more of the way Tywin 'loves' too. It's rather 'possessive' and not sincere genuine affection, it seems like. Cersie ignored her two younger ones in favor of Joffrey. She only got 'troubled' when they were either 'murdered' (Joffrey) or seemingly manipulated by other party except for herself (Tommen--Cersei wanted control over Tommen) then like Tywin's 'concern' for Tyrion when he was taken, Cersei only was truly concerned after Oberyn's death about the safety of her daughter....But I suppose it's the Lannister brand of love.
god I hate ellaria. killed a little girl just to get back at cersei for "killing" her husband as if it wasn't his choice to fight for tyrion. shes worse than cersei
It made no sense to me. She was in love with Oberyn who was against hurting children, she wouldn’t have killed Cersei’s child to avenge him. If she was going to kill anyone it would be Cersei for not killing The Mountain when he committed crimes against their family.
Myrcella died because of Tywin Lannister. He's the one who gave the Mountain the orders to R and kill Elia and her babies. Oberyn wasn't in the Capitol for Cersei. As you saw... He was there because he wanted Tywin to be held responsible and for the Mountain to die Cersei wasn't to blame for this. Plus, Oberyn would never blame a child for their parents sins. That includes Cersei and her children. He wouldn't take revenge byproxy and would HATE what the Sandsnakes did to Myrcella. Oberyn made sure she was happy in Dorne and having a good childhood and being treated well. He would have despised that Myrcella was murdered for her families sins. She was a child. Oberyn would never call for Myrcella's death under any circumstance.
Right? And for the most part they were very peaceful as a whole...most people in real power only wanted harm done to those who deserved it. Not even to mention that the Prince was perfect for Marcella, same age and both very good looking. I wish they had more time together!
Ellaria: I wish you all the happiness in the world. Myrcella: In exchange for stealing my necklace, I believe it is fair that I take your necklace. Ellaria: What a strange request, child. Myrcella: Making strange requests brings me happiness. You wished for my happiness. So give me your necklace.
You know Tommen and Myrcella were always good little children when you remember the moments in the first season when they just talked to Tyrion. They had nothing against him and they were nice to him and all that. AND THEN THEY BOTH DIED. THEY DIED! :(
The Sand Snakes are avenging the death of their father whose sister, the Crown Princess of the 7 Kingdoms was brutally butchered by the evil, scheming, power mad, greedy, Lannisters. Ellaria was still not as brutal when killing Myrcella. At least the corpse is recognizable to be buried. I can't forgive the Lannisters for their savagery of Eliia & her children either. I recoiled for a full day hearing & reading about the evil done to them. It was chilling. Ellaria should have hired the faceless men to get Cersei to wipe out her family as was done to Elia. So they really didn't take full vengeance. Evil begets evil. His story about the mad king might be false too. Only Bran knows for sure. Robert's Rebellion was built on Lannister lies.
I agree but in the books, she only saw her as an extension of herself. When Cersei found out Myrcella got injured, she only focused on her looks rather than herself.
I agree. Something about seeing her capacity for evil, it really warms my heart to see her pure, although misguided, love for her children. Myrcella was a treasure.
People critisize Doran for being weak, but really, I think he was quite a good leader. He was merciful, as any good king should be, but he stood his ground when it came to his judgement. He didn't want war, and rightfully so, especially in the universe of Game of Thrones. Under different circumstances, I think things could have gone quite differently and he could have had a very prosperous reign.
What the sand snakes did to myrcella and to the martells was truly disgusting. Innocent children and the family who took and accepted them despite being bastards. Ellaria deserved what cersei did to her.
"You haven't had to use that axe of yours in a long time... I hope you remember how." "Actually I thought I would just get unceremoniously stabbed in the back without putting up a fight and instantly dying, despite wearing a suit of armor at the time, if that's okay?
This is by far the most tragic death in Game of Thrones Marcella is literally the only one who doesn't have blood on her hands she didn't deserve that shit but I realize that this is part of the story doesn't make it fair in my mind
Cersei: "I don't know where she came from. No meanness, no jealousy. Just good." She came from Jamie and has her uncle's traits too. And Joffrey came from Cersei.
The one and only time one of Jaime's children knew and accepted him as their father. It's such a rare and bittersweet moment for Jaime because this is the single time he's able to show a fraction of fatherly affection and in that moment he saw an actual life where he could be the parent he never knew he wanted to be, then like that, it was taken away from him.
Rest in piece, Princess Myrcella Baratheon. You were so kindhearted, was caring to everyone you met and mattered to you, but was also assertive and able to stand your ground with a little bit of intelligence. You would’ve made a fine queen next to Prince Trystane.
It makes no sense that they even think about killing Myrcella, it contradicts what was established about Oberyn and his philosophy about harming innocent girls. This is where the series starts going downhill, when characters don't remain true to what was previously established about them
It's sad to see two sweet children that were nothing like their mother and father and brat older brother had to die. Myrcella and Tommen they were sweet kids and nothing like Joffery or Ceresi.
Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are some of the worst written characters in all of GOT. I get the motivation of revenge for your slain lover, but by having her betray Oberyn's memory ("We don't hurt little girls in Dorn"), her actions come off as purely selfish. She wasn't avenging him, she was fulfilling her own desires. And the Sand Snakes... blatant fetishization and exoticism. The writing is so bad, like frustrated teenage fanfiction. No woman would write them this way.
Peter Joy *When they first casted Myrcella, because it wasn't an acting role (she was no different than an extra), the producers most probably wouldn't have paid much attention to the acting skills of the actress getting casted as Myrcella.* But in S5, Myrcella significantly has a bigger role and much more lines so the acting skills of Myrcella actress would be very important which is why I'm guessing the producers thought they should recast the part and give it to someone who could act better.
Okay, re-watching this I'm actually pissed off at Jaime! Ellaria showed a CLEAR disdain toward the Lannisters. She viciously spoke about them being around Lannisters right in front of Jaime and Marcella, and when the King tried to toast to Tommen, she poured the drink out in front of them! Why the fuck did he let Ellaria anywhere near Myrcella when they were leaving? ESPECIALLY since he was fucking right there when Ellaria's CHILDREN tried to take Myrcella! But he lets Ellaria get close to and kiss Myrcella goodbye? Did he just FORGET his oldest son died of poisoning? He didn't SUSPECT at all that this bitch would try some shit with his daughter, when she clearly hates Lannisters (why the hell is she gonna willingly kiss one with no ulterior motives?
The scene with Myrcella telling Jaime she knows that he’s her Father and still loving and accepting him as her Father with the background music and the hug was the second saddest scene in GOT after Daenerys’s death.
It happens a lot through the series just because he is wearing a gold glove. But it is very difficult to keep a part of your body still so I think they just left minute movements alone.
“One day I pray you love someone. I pray you love her so much, when you close your eyes, you see her face. I want that for you. I want you to know what it’s like to love someone, truly love someone, before I take her from you." the sheer viciousness
Hi all! A new Game of thrones fan here! I know Cersei is twisted and evil and stuff, but her sincere love for her daughter is something I greatly respect and admire.
would have loved to see his character grow and unite the south with the queen of thorns against the crown, at the very least. he was such a dignified man. the martells were genuinely good if you discount ellaria and her daughters with their penchant for cruelty, in fact most everyone else in their family was quite honourable and in good terms with the other great houses. i could barely root for the dany/dorne alliance by the end of last season tbh they deserved to perish for stooping as low as tywin instead of behaving like oberyn did may he rest in peace
Doran should've had the Sand Snakes executed or at least imprisoned after he caught a whiff of Ellaria's treason. It was clear that she was planning something the moment she asked how long Doran would be ruling, after they attacked and tried to abduct Myrcella and threat of the necklace. Too soft a heart, wasn't it?
Did you guys see the smile of Myrcella when she found out that Bran was okay. It would of been awesome if Bran and Myrcella got together, but maybe not because Bran became crippled and he became the one eye raven, but it would of been cool to see these two together.
@@simonamon6850 The parallel I was trying to draw here was innocent children being killed because of the mistakes of their parents. Also like you said, Tywin was responsible was such a brutal death of a small baby. Payback does work some times
@@simonamon6850 Hey, if the gods won't punish Tywin directly for his sins, they will punish him through his children and grandchildren. What goes around must come around!
Myrcella's murder was such a disgrace to Oberyn's memory. He would never have even considered harming her for anything her family did. He prided himself on Dorn's protective culture in regard to children. He died trying to avenge the murder of an innocent woman and her children. Disgraceful.
Quite true
She wasn’t a child, she was a grown ass woman. 😂
John Sigmon she literally wasn’t and in the books she is for sure still young
The plot line was a play to the history of the Prussians in our world where much of the political machinations was weilded surredeptiously by the wives and consorts in the harem. If course, the similarities are extremely loose, in our world when one became Sultan one would murder all brothers and half brothers to avoid the throne being challenged at a later date hence the consort of one ruler would rarely be taken or protected by the brother of a fallen ruler.
@Lachs geräuchert hahahahah Dorne was nothing like that. That is pure bullshit
Oberyn: Killing innocent people is bad. Don't do it.
Ellaria: Lets avenge Oberyn by killing a innocent girl.
Oberyn: Am I a joke to you?
Oberyn: *yo wtf*
Audience: *yo wtf*
Writers: *uhh yea we needed to kill off Oberyn's wife sooo*
You must have forgotten. He couldn't speak once the mountain crushed his head like a drunk high school kid crushes a pumpkin
She was a Lannister
There are no innocent Lannisters
@@imapotato8010 I guess that's a display of the exact thinking that Ellaria had in mind that caused her to watch Tyene die in front of her.
I'm a Potato That’s the type of simple minded thinking that starts genocides. Sheep thinking
She probably lived the most peaceful life in Got out of all the characters tbh
She lived peacefully and died peacefully
True, but she was going to get wiped out by the white walkers like everyone else will.
"died peacefully"
she didn't drop and boom she's dead. She was choking in her few moments before passing away. Her death wasn't peaceful, like most people who get poisoned.
I don’t think her death was peaceful but it did seem fast
@@lotsoflaughs13ify Eh. Five minutes of intense terror and pain, in an otherwise paradisaical life as a beautiful princess. She got to experience love, luxury, beauty, and die before seeing the world consumed by the white walkers. Still a win.
@@mesmer3780 Yes from your explanation she did *live* peacefully, but it's not the same as *dying* peacefully, which is what I am pertaining to. Dying peacefully is like dying while you're asleep because usually your calm and relaxed when you're sleeping. You feel no pain when it's a peaceful death, which apparently wasn't the type of death Myrcella experienced.
Oberyn would never kill myrcella for any reason.
Agree.
Seema Vyas probably because he is honorable and his dead sister
So Oberyns children are just evil people 😕
@@joevines3428 not necessarily. just driven more by their anger. manipulated by their mother. i doubt they would have killed her on their own, i feel like most of it was ellarias idea
@@joevines3428 In the TV show they are. In the books they actually have personalities.
now jaime maybe had realized what mother stark had felt when that kid just got pushed in a tower
omg that is so true! I have come to like Jaime and his development towards being a sort-of honorable guy, but I can never forget that he pushed a CHILD to his 'almost' death.
@@lawfulhusbands well he pushed him to his death, he failed to kill him but it's the thought that counts,
Flannibal agreed. His intention was to kill him and nothing can change that 😒
@@lawfulhusbands Yeah, his intention was to kill Bran IN ORDER TO save Cersei and her THREE children. In the books, even Ned thinks about what he would do if it was the life of some unknown child vs. the lives of Robb, Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon. He didn't know and prayed he never would.
He didn't love them as much as Cat did, he did love her, but not as much
the romeo and juliet that deserved more screentime: a martell and a lannister
this is Game of Thrones we're talking about..
David Cavill this is Shakespeare we are talking about. You do remember they die in romeo and juliet right?
@Va Lin Martin already admitted that he got inspired from shakespeare and many other great writers. Hollywood is not the right place for great stories.
Fuck off
Fuck that shithead
Oberyn: "we do not kill little girls in Dorne"
Elliaria: "technically she was no longer in Dorne :-)"
Oh Ellaria so consumed and blinded by hate that she doesn't even see that she has become just as bad as Cersei
Worse than Cersei. Cersei didn't have any hand in Elia or Oberyn's death. Oberyn volunteering for Tyrion was totally unexpected. It's one of the few times in the series where Cersei is definitely innocent.
Almost as bad
I liked Ellaria in the books. In the books, she was against the Martells desire for revenge. Yes, she was distraught watching the love of her life die in front of her, but she was more concerned about her daughters' well-being.
@@KitsuneADestiny Forgetting Ellaria from the book. GOT Ellaria plot... didnt make any sense. Considering that Oberyn said to Cersei, that in Dorne, the mistakes of the fathers dont reflect in the kids. So, Ellaria wouldnt never touch Myrcella by that idea... I could understand sand snakes, could share that opinion to kill a Lannister, they were young lost their father in a combat, that for them didnt make any sense and assume it was a murder. But Ellaria!?
I think the penny might've dropped when Cersei kissed her daughter right in front of her
Myrcella's death was indirectly caused by Cersei's stupidity and blind hatred toward Tyrion.
Aaaaaamen
Nope. Mycella's death was another one of Tyrion's clever mistakes. Though you might not like it, Cersei is a far better judge of people's character than Tyrion. It was another of Tyrion's many mistakes where people end up dead. On this list of mistakes are Olenna, Casterly Rock, Yara Greyjoy and her fleet, Ellaria Sand and her daughters, Thoros of Myr, Shea & Tywin.
@@ctruth6185 If cersei didnt insisted putting Tyrion as guilty of Joffrey murder, Oberyn wouldn't had fought for him. It was Cersei desire to and stupity to destroy tyrion that lead to this... Tyrion didn't do mistake by matching Myrcella with Tristan, he knew that Martell's wouldnt never hurt her or mistreated her. It was Ellaria blindness and passion that seal Myrcella fate. But, if Cersei understood tyrion, she knew, he wouldnt never kill his nieces. He love them all.
C Truth Nah, Cersei’s stupidity led to Oberyn getting killed, which then led to her daughter getting killed in retaliation. The fact that she was foolish enough to relish Oberyn’s death just shows how blinded she was by hate.
If Doran were not so soft, then everything would be fine. Ellaria and her daughters have repeatedly shown that they do not care about the ruler Doran and his relationship with the king. They had their plans for revenge and they did not hide them. This was quite enough to at least take them into custody. And in the best case - executed for treason.
I just realized Jaime never got the chance to tell his kids he loved them as a father...he watched them but they never recognized him as their father. But Myrcella knew and that's, really really sad. He finally has that moment and seconds later, it's ripped away from him.
@Tatiyana Sutherland how do you know ? Myrcella knew and Tommen could have guessed at some point, but I don't think Joffrey knew, he always despised Jaime and was proud of being Robert's son
Joffrey had heard the rumours, but was probably in denial about it. As you said, he wanted to be Robert's son. Tommen probably felt the same way. Myrcella was the only one who embraced Jamie as her father. But the chance for him to have a real relationship with her was taken away. It's a very sad scene.
This is the only thing I liked about show's version of Dornish plot. Myrcella and Jaime's conversation.
It is really sad that they butchered Dorne so much after Oberyn's death (wear helmet, kids). They are truly badasses and they were the only match for Targaeryens when they had dragons.
"We will bring you fire and blood."
"Your words. Ours are Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken."
If anyone is interested what was Dorne really up to... (spoilers)
As Oberyn puts it, his sister, wife of Rhaegar, was raped and killed by Lannisters. He wants revenge, but his older brother Doran is more patient and calculating. Doran's daughter Arianne (smart girl who uses her wits and sexuality - close to Cersei, but much more likeable) and Oberyn wants to use Dornish laws (the oldest child inherits, not the oldest son) to make Myrcella the Queen. Myrcella in the books is around 10 years old, she is fierce and smart for her age, she even have courage to talk back to Joffrey. She is basically how Cersei sees herself - as a strong lioness (fun fact - Cersei blames everyone that they don't take her seriously because of her gender, but she doesn't give a shit about Myrcella and favoures her beloved Joffrey). Arianne tries to finish what her uncle started, but Doran stops her and reveals his plan: making an alliance with Targaryens. Viserys was supposed to marry Arianne, after his death Doran sends Arianne's brother to Dany and Arianne to man who claimes he is Aegon, son of Rhaegar and Elia.
Showrunners were afraid that fans would be lost and uninterested, so they butchered Dorne. Dorne is not about strong women killing men and calling it success. Dorne is about equality, being strong together (just like Starks or Tyrells). They are okay with their sexuality... and god, they are insteresting in the books. All of the Kingdoms united by Aegon, except for Dorne. It almost seemed like they were testing Targaryens (even if they were not part of Kingdoms, they still mourned death of the greatest King Jaeherys I.).
One of the many risks of incest.
Don't think he loved Joffrey when he clearly r*ped his mourning sister in front of Joff's dead body
It broke my heart when she died. I thought this couple was going to be the "price & princess" of game of thrones. But this is not a disney film is it? Good people die so quickly in this series...
Gotta love that 69
They would of been good rulers. Everyone else was a psychopath
The problem with this show is that they kinda killed characters right to left so in order to not run out of them in the later seasons, they just all developed massive plot armours.
in the beginning, cerise is talking about how she doesn't know where Myrcella's goodness came from, but now? It's Jamie. She's so much like her father. Jamie is secretly a romantic and Myrcella was ready to marry the love of her life and it was all taken away from her because of her mother. She loved that prince
Let's not forget Jaime pushed a boy, Brandon Stark to his near death and left him crippled for the rest of his life.
@@MsNur1996 the things he does for love
her goodness might be a gift of god because dont forget jaime pushed a 10 yo child off the tower with the full intention to kill him xD
@Va Lin Tywin was kinda evil too
@@MsNur1996 he did that to protect cersei and his children. i mean choosing between a child that you never know or your own lover and kids?
"And, you! You're gonna be bigger than the Hound; but much better looking!''
love him
It melted my heart when marcella said to jami that she knows he is her father, and at last jamie's eyes were giving expressions like at least one child understood his feelings truly and she said she is glad for that. I really felt the the man jamie reached his peace at last. But everything is lost in the next minute as the beautiful, innocent and kind hearted mercella fell in jamie's arms in her last moments.
I really like Tommen and Myrcella
Maryjen Maputol me too
Tommen was really annoyingingly naive and weak to me but marcella I adored very sweet yet intelligent and so close to happiness
@@jasminevaliente96 You're Shaming the victim. Think before you make a public comment on the internet
Liked...
@@emhapz
those two were innocent and didnt deserve what happened to them.
“I will burn their city’s to the ground if they touch her”
Cerseis only redeeming quality is her love for her children
That and her cheekbones
@@luciusavenus8715 And tits.
Well but she got them killed
@@agentwrench Joffrey and Myrcella weren't her fault. Tommen though, yeah she fucked up.
I don't even know if I called it 'love.' I think it's more of the way Tywin 'loves' too. It's rather 'possessive' and not sincere genuine affection, it seems like. Cersie ignored her two younger ones in favor of Joffrey. She only got 'troubled' when they were either 'murdered' (Joffrey) or seemingly manipulated by other party except for herself (Tommen--Cersei wanted control over Tommen) then like Tywin's 'concern' for Tyrion when he was taken, Cersei only was truly concerned after Oberyn's death about the safety of her daughter....But I suppose it's the Lannister brand of love.
god I hate ellaria. killed a little girl just to get back at cersei for "killing" her husband as if it wasn't his choice to fight for tyrion. shes worse than cersei
merenmer owo I know right!! She turned into what she hated so much. Oberyn would’ve been ashamed of her and his daughters.
It made no sense to me. She was in love with Oberyn who was against hurting children, she wouldn’t have killed Cersei’s child to avenge him. If she was going to kill anyone it would be Cersei for not killing The Mountain when he committed crimes against their family.
She's not like that in ASOIAF , she's much smarter
@@seliamila1005 she have a whole ass monologue trying to talk her "stepdaughters" out of continuing the cycle of violence. Most relatable ngl
@@victroninare you joking 😒
“Everywhere in the world they hurt little girls” truer words were never spoken by Cersei
That’s is her best quote hands down. Chills
And she was right. Look at poor Myrcella 😢
Such a shame that wise and peaceful people like Doran Martel aren't appreciated in Game of Thrones.
So true
@Kapitan Dupa the books aren't the show. Most of the characters in the books are more ruthless than they are in the show.
Was lord eddard appreciated
Reading this seems weird when the writer is Vlad the Impaler...
lol
Holy hell I had forgotten how goodlooking Cersei and Jamie were in S1.
eizhowa were?? I’d honestly say they still are
@@ElinorMahoney Aging isn't just a number.
The most important rule of being a leading actor
@array s what??? he aged like fine wine!!!
Cersei looked better back then. Jaime looks better in the later seasons.
We dont hurt little girls in dorne
oberyn martell well basically she didn't actually died in Dorne.
poor myrcella...though innocent and pure, died because of her mother's sins
Wouldn’t it be grandfather as it was him who ordered the deaths of the babies and Elia
Myrcella died because of Tywin Lannister. He's the one who gave the Mountain the orders to R and kill Elia and her babies.
Oberyn wasn't in the Capitol for Cersei. As you saw... He was there because he wanted Tywin to be held responsible and for the Mountain to die
Cersei wasn't to blame for this. Plus, Oberyn would never blame a child for their parents sins. That includes Cersei and her children. He wouldn't take revenge byproxy and would HATE what the Sandsnakes did to Myrcella. Oberyn made sure she was happy in Dorne and having a good childhood and being treated well. He would have despised that Myrcella was murdered for her families sins. She was a child. Oberyn would never call for Myrcella's death under any circumstance.
I didn't even think there was half an hour footage of Myrcella,
Because there isnt
A lot of it is them talking about Myrcella without her being on screen
This is 29 minutes!
you all have to admit the Martells had sexy accents
Aye, that they do!
Its literally a Spanish-Portugese esque accent.
Breathing Fire they were the sexiest house by far
Yes! I also liked Shae's accent. And Davos. And Melissande
Right? And for the most part they were very peaceful as a whole...most people in real power only wanted harm done to those who deserved it. Not even to mention that the Prince was perfect for Marcella, same age and both very good looking. I wish they had more time together!
Ellaria: I wish you all the happiness in the world.
Myrcella: In exchange for stealing my necklace, I believe it is fair that I take your necklace.
Ellaria: What a strange request, child.
Myrcella: Making strange requests brings me happiness. You wished for my happiness. So give me your necklace.
Hhahaha cute
Genius
God I wish
If only......🙄
She didn't deserve that, Oberyn wouldn't have liked what they did.
Payback to lannisters.
The have done much worse than that. Elia and her kids, red wedding. Lannisters will pay their debts.
@@o.h2202 its just a show
@@noach8207 so what?
Myrcella was the original cinnamon bun...
I don’t get it
Adventure Time, OMG hysterical!
An innocent girl in a broken world.
Catholic Racialist wtf is wrong with you
@@catholicracialist776 bruh
@@KingAgniKai wat did he say
@@bagofrats3464 he deleted it
Both Princesses called 'Baratheon' were the sweetest, most innocent characters in the show. And sucked to be them.
both? who was the other one?
@@AlyxAesthetics Shireen
@@uranus8308oh yeah i was thinking about roberts kids. or fake kids
“I thought if I could make something so good,so pure, I would not be a monster..”
:(
Monique xo
That line made me want to hug Cersei:( she’s done awful things but I feel for her still.
Still feel a little bad fur cersei bc in GoT, there is a possibility that she would lose her only daughter (unfortunately, she did)
This is sad. If they never crippled bran, myrcella would probably have a romance with him
Killer Mode28 but they needed bran in the end
Yea it did seem like maybe she had a crush on him. Because when Tyrion told her he would live she seemed happy. who knows.....
You know Tommen and Myrcella were always good little children when you remember the moments in the first season when they just talked to Tyrion. They had nothing against him and they were nice to him and all that. AND THEN THEY BOTH DIED. THEY DIED! :(
Good people usually suffer in this world
Myrcella looked like how Gilly looked when she played Cassie in Skins
Oh my God how didn't I see this?!?!?
OMMMMAGGASDDD
Almost the same soft spoken voice too
in the book she had a crush on Robb stark
Duy Đăng doesn’t everyone
@@kathryn8295 no homo
I mean who didn't?
The whole world does
Its a shame the ruler of Dorn didn't just kill the sand snacks.
or Ellaria Sand lol...so angry and taking it out on a secondary person.
sand snacks. LOL
i call them sand snacks too
Cersei and euron ftw lol
The Sand Snakes are avenging the death of their father whose sister, the Crown Princess of the 7 Kingdoms was brutally butchered by the evil, scheming, power mad, greedy, Lannisters. Ellaria was still not as brutal when killing Myrcella. At least the corpse is recognizable to be buried. I can't forgive the Lannisters for their savagery of Eliia & her children either. I recoiled for a full day hearing & reading about the evil done to them. It was chilling. Ellaria should have hired the faceless men to get Cersei to wipe out her family as was done to Elia. So they really didn't take full vengeance. Evil begets evil. His story about the mad king might be false too. Only Bran knows for sure. Robert's Rebellion was built on Lannister lies.
For all Cersei's atrocities, her love for her babies is admirable. The way she talks about her baby girl is endearing for her character.
I agree but in the books, she only saw her as an extension of herself. When Cersei found out Myrcella got injured, she only focused on her looks rather than herself.
I agree. Something about seeing her capacity for evil, it really warms my heart to see her pure, although misguided, love for her children. Myrcella was a treasure.
People critisize Doran for being weak, but really, I think he was quite a good leader. He was merciful, as any good king should be, but he stood his ground when it came to his judgement. He didn't want war, and rightfully so, especially in the universe of Game of Thrones. Under different circumstances, I think things could have gone quite differently and he could have had a very prosperous reign.
Yes but allowing the disrespect that Ellaria gave him and ignoring her threats was plane stupid. He should have killed her or imprisoned her.
What the sand snakes did to myrcella and to the martells was truly disgusting. Innocent children and the family who took and accepted them despite being bastards. Ellaria deserved what cersei did to her.
She looks and acts like Cassie from Skins, which is played by Hannah Murray, who also has a role in got as Gilly.
kitty cat that’s so true!!
I actually thought she was the same actress on first glance
Poor Myrcella! She was one of the few people who were truly innocent in Game of Thrones. Ellaria killing her would have pissed off Oberyn no doubt
The Romeo and Juliet story, with a Romeo and Juliet ending. *sigh*
She looks like she should be in a Disney Channel show or something.
I really need a Myrcella fanfic where she came back alive from Dorne to King's Landing.
"You haven't had to use that axe of yours in a long time... I hope you remember how."
"Actually I thought I would just get unceremoniously stabbed in the back without putting up a fight and instantly dying, despite wearing a suit of armor at the time, if that's okay?
So much for “we don’t hurt little girls in Dorne.”
16:34... The only chance of a happy wedding in Got, of course it would not last.
Oberyn would never want to kill any innocent girl even for revenge
This is by far the most tragic death in Game of Thrones Marcella is literally the only one who doesn't have blood on her hands she didn't deserve that shit but I realize that this is part of the story doesn't make it fair in my mind
Hodor had no blood on his hands.
Shireen
Bran wasn't even as old as Myrcella when he was pushed out of the tower and crippled. He didn't have any blood on his hands.
"they do not go squinty and you didn't answer the question" ahhh~ so cute
Game of Thrones has a habit of killing the sweetest, most innocent characters in horrible ways. Myrcella, Shireen, Tommen, Hodor, etc...
The only child to acknowledge Jaime is her dad and be proud ends up dying in his arms ):
Myrcella is probably the sweetest and the only no-grey areas character in GOT.
Shireen too
Tommen and Myrcella were so precious
Poor sweet tommen 😢
the only moment jaime was genuinely happy in the entire show... poor man
Cersei: "I don't know where she came from. No meanness, no jealousy. Just good."
She came from Jamie and has her uncle's traits too. And Joffrey came from Cersei.
The one and only time one of Jaime's children knew and accepted him as their father. It's such a rare and bittersweet moment for Jaime because this is the single time he's able to show a fraction of fatherly affection and in that moment he saw an actual life where he could be the parent he never knew he wanted to be, then like that, it was taken away from him.
Rest in piece, Princess Myrcella Baratheon. You were so kindhearted, was caring to everyone you met and mattered to you, but was also assertive and able to stand your ground with a little bit of intelligence. You would’ve made a fine queen next to Prince Trystane.
It's a a f***ing book dog...... though I know this is a bot comment so it will go unnoticed.....
If myrcella would have lived, I believe she would have made a great queen as she is kind and selfless.
I love how she still kept her posture as she “stormed out” such a lovely lady
Imagine a scene of Jaime crying with her dead body on his arms just after that 😭
It's pretty fascinating & frightening to watch this and realize how often Myrcella is spoken for and how little a voice she actually had.
It makes no sense that they even think about killing Myrcella, it contradicts what was established about Oberyn and his philosophy about harming innocent girls. This is where the series starts going downhill, when characters don't remain true to what was previously established about them
Myrcella is just too pure for this world
I can't get over how annoying Obara's face is. And her acting....just cringy!
Maja Henriksen EXACTLY 🤦🏻♀️
It's sad to see two sweet children that were nothing like their mother and father and brat older brother had to die. Myrcella and Tommen they were sweet kids and nothing like Joffery or Ceresi.
Of all the characters who deserved a Happily Ever After that character was Myrcella.
Oberyn: we don't hurt little girls in Dorn
Cersi: everywhere in the world, they hurt little girls.
She wasn't wrong... very sad.
Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are some of the worst written characters in all of GOT. I get the motivation of revenge for your slain lover, but by having her betray Oberyn's memory ("We don't hurt little girls in Dorn"), her actions come off as purely selfish. She wasn't avenging him, she was fulfilling her own desires. And the Sand Snakes... blatant fetishization and exoticism. The writing is so bad, like frustrated teenage fanfiction. No woman would write them this way.
25:05 Why the fuck did she let her kiss her on the lips? Not fucking weird as hell or anything?!
why was she killed? she was my favorite of the children...so innocent and sweet.
Literally just sick revenge against Cersei
loveblondy bcuz cersei killed the woman's husband, the one that give her poison
and that is exactly why
Because this is game of thrones
His tears of happiness and peace in heart disappeared in grief so quickly
Lol let's change actresses for no reason at all
She got older
Peter Joy i swear at some point in this episode she says she's been there for years;
Peter Joy *When they first casted Myrcella, because it wasn't an acting role (she was no different than an extra), the producers most probably wouldn't have paid much attention to the acting skills of the actress getting casted as Myrcella.*
But in S5, Myrcella significantly has a bigger role and much more lines so the acting skills of Myrcella actress would be very important which is why I'm guessing the producers thought they should recast the part and give it to someone who could act better.
Peter Joy i love the new actress
The first one wasn't pretty enough.
Damn it I thought they might save her :(
One thing you can say about Cersei, she did love her children.
Myrcella, Talisa and Shireen died due to the faults of others
22:50 The word of a Kingslayer..... *Kills her own king/family*
Doran’s not a king
Yuck ... Myrcella was too polite to spit out Ellaria's saliva in front of royalty.
the Voice in your head -- To be honest, I found it kinda arousing... NOT her being poisoned or her death, just the kiss itself, haha.
Yeah it's so intimate yet uncomfortable at the same time, kissing the person you're about to poison.
trystane and myrcella were so cute together in the scene that they were together... i wish they were still both okay
“I’m glad you are my father.” Her last words. 💔
It was one of the most heartbreaking moments in the whole show. Just as seeing the sandbitches die one by one later was one of the most satisfying...
Yet you cheered on the Mountain's evil, Jaime's evil and Cersei's evil. Yeah, Ok I know your kind.
Rhazael
There’s nothing good about their deaths. You’d be a monster to think so.
Okay, re-watching this I'm actually pissed off at Jaime! Ellaria showed a CLEAR disdain toward the Lannisters. She viciously spoke about them being around Lannisters right in front of Jaime and Marcella, and when the King tried to toast to Tommen, she poured the drink out in front of them! Why the fuck did he let Ellaria anywhere near Myrcella when they were leaving?
ESPECIALLY since he was fucking right there when Ellaria's CHILDREN tried to take Myrcella! But he lets Ellaria get close to and kiss Myrcella goodbye? Did he just FORGET his oldest son died of poisoning? He didn't SUSPECT at all that this bitch would try some shit with his daughter, when she clearly hates Lannisters (why the hell is she gonna willingly kiss one with no ulterior motives?
The scene with Myrcella telling Jaime she knows that he’s her Father and still loving and accepting him as her Father with the background music and the hug was the second saddest scene in GOT after Daenerys’s death.
What about Hodor?
If you watch closely at 19:30 you can see Jaime somewhat flex his golden fingers. not sure how that got through editing.
Nah his fingers moved
Paper Please Fingers were definitely moved.
It happens a lot through the series just because he is wearing a gold glove. But it is very difficult to keep a part of your body still so I think they just left minute movements alone.
2:14 2:15 Tyrion and Jamie look like 80s versions of themselves here, haha
Well Cersei, the Lannisters always pay their debts and sadly Mycella was the price for everything you and your family did
Jamie's character arc has been honestly so beautiful
chaaa chaa then season 8 happened 😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
“One day I pray you love someone. I pray you love her so much, when you close your eyes, you see her face. I want that for you. I want you to know what it’s like to love someone, truly love someone, before I take her from you."
the sheer viciousness
Myrcella was such a gentle soul. She didn't deserve this.
Hi all! A new Game of thrones fan here!
I know Cersei is twisted and evil and stuff, but her sincere love for her daughter is something I greatly respect and admire.
05dal did you see the latest episode? Cersei isnt the only one who cares for her daughter
She got what she deserved. I don't blame Cersei one bit for that, I'd wish the worst fate possible for anyone who hurt my daughter too.
Oh, I'm aware of that. I'm just emphasizing Cersei 'cause she's evil and stuff, and to still see this side of her is amazing.
Doran Martell would have been a good person to put on the Iron Throne.
would have loved to see his character grow and unite the south with the queen of thorns against the crown, at the very least. he was such a dignified man. the martells were genuinely good if you discount ellaria and her daughters with their penchant for cruelty, in fact most everyone else in their family was quite honourable and in good terms with the other great houses. i could barely root for the dany/dorne alliance by the end of last season tbh they deserved to perish for stooping as low as tywin instead of behaving like oberyn did may he rest in peace
It's so sad that both Myrcella and Trystane died...
Myrcella's so pretty ffs. Wish she had more screentime so i can admire such beauty...
Nonce alert
Poor girl didn't deserve this.
Doran should've had the Sand Snakes executed or at least imprisoned after he caught a whiff of Ellaria's treason. It was clear that she was planning something the moment she asked how long Doran would be ruling, after they attacked and tried to abduct Myrcella and threat of the necklace. Too soft a heart, wasn't it?
I love this show, but GOD did the Sandsnakes butcher a beautiful storyline.
Elia Martell deserves every second of misery in that dungeon! Cersei gave her the perfect punishment.
I think you mean Ellaria and not Elia
They could have kept the "crown Myrcella" plot line
Did you guys see the smile of Myrcella when she found out that Bran was okay. It would of been awesome if Bran and Myrcella got together, but maybe not because Bran became crippled and he became the one eye raven, but it would of been cool to see these two together.
If he hasn't became the one eyed raven. But once he changed he was emotionless and annoying
So sad, she was such a sweet girl. At least Jamie got to hug his daughter one last time.
People mourn for her but forget about what the Lannisters did to Elia's children in front of her own eyes. I really want Cersei tortured
Cersei had nothing to do with Elia's murder. Tywin did
@@simonamon6850 Be that as it may, the way I see it the lanisters start cycles and then expect no consequences.
@@simonamon6850 The parallel I was trying to draw here was innocent children being killed because of the mistakes of their parents. Also like you said, Tywin was responsible was such a brutal death of a small baby. Payback does work some times
@@simonamon6850 Hey, if the gods won't punish Tywin directly for his sins, they will punish him through his children and grandchildren. What goes around must come around!
@@tinabagga3255You prove democracy is foolish