"Nothins penetrating it man they just bouncing right off." | Tiger Attack | Fury (2014)
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• Tiger - Fury (2014)
no copyright infringement intended. The movie is not mine, the reactions are not mine, only the hard work, time, and dedication of putting this all together is mine. I only mention it because sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Dude here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. 
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As a military historian, it's fairly innacurate.
As a tank fan, fuck yeah
love that attitude!
Oh yeah fun movie but almost every fight makes little to no sense.
This is accurate
@@tinguspingus1523 yep that is in fact what he was saying here lmao.
@@warrick7689 It's not at all. The biggest error: there's no chance to meet lonely tiger. It should be 3-4 + infantry (usually morotized).
- Any good tank commander would never leave that ditch. He would stay there and smoke all fools from distance. Usually tank battles took place on 2km and more. Tiger could destroy every Sherman (except Jumbo) from 2-2.5km
- When attacking column, you destroy leading tank first, then last one causing chaos making all of those remaining easy prey.
- Tigers were really really rare on the battlefield. They produced total 1300 tigers from 1942 to 1944. The most common were Pz IVs (9500), Stug IIIs (11000), Panthers (6000), Pz IIIs (5000-6000)
- Shermans weren't used to fight tanks but infatry. For tanks US Army used tank destroyers like M10, M18 and M36.
- Most tanks on the US side were destroyed by anti-tank guns like 88s or Pak 40s
- Most tigers were destroyed by artillery, diving bombers or were blown up by their crews due to technical issues
A WW2 veteran was interviewed in a documentary and said that just hearing the word "tiger" gives them goosebumps.
Panzer Division
They were fucking beasts of tanks. But they were also wildly ineffective and guzzled way too much gas and were very hard to fix. But when they did work…they were fucking insane
@@xXtuscanator22Xx that's classic german engineering at its finest. they're a logistical nightmare but when everything works...
As a side note, the Tiger tank used in the movie is nicknamed "The Bovington Tiger"....it is the last operational Tiger on the planet. It was captured in 1942 in N. Africa. It currently resides in the Bovington Tank Museum in England.
actually 131 won't be the last one running for much longer, there's a museum in Australia with a 90% restored Tiger 1 which they are now starting to work on making it move on its own power
@@gunmasterx1164 that is so cool! I am a WWII reenactor who portrays a panzergrenadier.
@@markfoor4137 nice I wish I could do stuff like that
My friend works in Bovington and damn he gets to see the Tiger and other tanks up close
Damn I wish I could see it with my own eyes
@@guts-141 I've been wanting to work there for ages now but im waiting to get past college first and then apply
1. The proper way to attack a column of vehicles. Destroy the lead vehicle first, to stop the column from moving forward. Then take out the last vehicle to obstruct the column from retreating. Then attack the vehicles in between. The only thing that saved Brad Pitt’s crew at the beginning of the attack was Movie Plot Armor.
2. This scene is based on a popular American trope of the time: That it took four Shermans to destroy one Tiger Tank. The Germans also had their trope: One Tiger Tank can destroy eleven Shermans. The trouble is, the Americans always send twelve.
3. Most American Shermans were armed with a 75mm main gun. This gun was unable to penetrate the frontal armor of a Tiger. Thus the need to attack from the rear where the Tiger’s armor was thinner. Towards the end of the war some Shermans were armed with a higher velocity 76 mm gun. Some British and Canadian Shermans were armed with more powerful main guns.
However, Brad Pitt’s Sherman, in this movie, the Fury, has a 76 mm gun. (In real life this tank may have been a Canadian Sherman.) It should have been able to penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger, rather than having to swing around to attack from the rear.
I suspect the writers were unaware that they would obtain a Sherman with a 76 mm main gun and wrote the scene as if it were armed with a 75 mm gun.
The 76mm gun on the fury is actually an American 76, you can tell my the muzzle break. The 76mm gun you're thinking of is the 17pdr british 76mm gun. The 17pdr was used on british and Canadian tanks not american tanks. Although the american 76 could penetrate the armor on a tiger frontally it couldn't do it as reliably as the British 17pdr.
@@danielbest5534 Wasn't the Sherman Firefly equipped with a british 17pdr?
@@InCognito-vx8gi yes it was, the 17pdr is a 76mm gun but 17pdr is the nomenclature that the British used for their 76mm gun, America used m1 as the nomenclature for their 76mm gun I think I'm not too sure the nomenclature for the American 76mm gun
All correct information listed, yes movie plot armor, but still an enjoyable scene.
Just to add some context to the scene in regards with the 76mm gun:
As correctly suspected the scene was written with 75mm guns in mind, Fury was originally not meant to be a 76. As a matter of fact the whole tank platoon is a mix of different Sherman variants (from what I see two M4s, an M4A1 (76) W and an M4A2 (76) W HVSS portraying an M4A3E8) because that's probably what the film makers had at hand for filming.
This scene was more Hollywood action and less actual tactics used by german tank crews.
Yeah, but we're entertained and that's ok
True, I mean just seeing a single Tiger tank on a field without any other support would probably never happen in real life. Plus, I don't see why the Tiger decided to be so close to it's targets during an ambush when it can take out other tanks from 1km + distance. However, I don't think this movie was really trying to portray the realism of tactics and tank battle. I think this movie's focus was more on the psychological and human aspects of war. And besides, we actually got to see a REAL Tiger tank moving in a screen so I think that itself is worth brushing off the unrealism as a whole.
Another thing hollywood got wrong is the tiger hitting the rear tank First realistically they were taught to hit the lead tank then the rear tank
@@bismarckgamer19 even then Tiger tanks would've been manned by the best tank crew because of it being a heavy tank that required an experienced crew to go up against amercian Sherman's.
@@user-mi8rd4oq5m I also agree a single tiger tank would've atleast been supported with AT crew and infantry support. Other than that the Tiger would've easily shot out all four of these shermans.
1:28 I love that chorus. Most people know how feared the Tiger I was during the war and in pop culture since. And the fact that its not a T34 or a Pershing with cardboard stapled to it, its a real *Tiger* , the only running one left in the world here to kick some Sherman ass. Loved this scene, despite its historical hiccups.
Yes just yes
FAHRER, FERTIG MACHEN
Pershing with cardboard stapled to it???
The Pershing's armor was great, tf you on about?
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 the Pershings armour was adequate at best considering it came into Europe in 1945 and had Tiger I levels of armour.
What I meant by cardboard is that in older war films, they would add bits of metal and cardboard to a tank to make it *look* like a different tank.
@@RifleEyezPANZERGRANATE GELADEN
I feel like being told "its a tiger" as a tank crewman would be the most terrifying thing to hear
well . . . i mean ofc it should be . . . the Tiger 1 was one of the most terrefiying beasts back in the days, the 76 Jumbo was a tank designed to counter the massive Tiger tank but America kinda misjudged the armor of the tiger .... it still was not enough
@@YogSothoth620 Lol what the fuck are you talking about? First of all, the 76 Jumbo was a field modification and basically didnt exist. Second of all, the American 76 was way more than capable of penetrating the Tigers armor... even the 75 could from close enough. And third of all, the Americans already had tank destroyers such as the M18, M36, and M10 which were already capable of penetrating the Tigers armor.
@@YogSothoth620 It was plenty, lol. Normal Shermans could easily penetrate the side armor of a Tiger, let alone the fact that the 76 variants could penetrate the upper front plate from beyond a thousand meters. This scene is really cool to watch but it's extremely inaccurate for several reasons. The Tiger would realistically never shoot the rear tank in a column first. It would shoot the first tank int he column to stop the whole thing from moving. This goes double for the fact that the Germans KNEW the 76 variants were capable of defeating the Tiger's armor - The only 76 variant in the column was also at the front. Realistically, Fury always would have been shot first. When it comes to the actual fight, Fury's shot into the front plate would likely have gone through. The shot that bounced off the side of the Tiger definitely should have gone through, and the shots to the rear would have immobilized but not destroyed the Tiger. The Tiger would still retain the ability to fire and would likely have done so to eliminate the last enemy tank. The Tiger staring at them for so long between shots is also unrealistic, as in practice the short 88 did not take much longer to load than the American 76.
@@spooks4771sounds like a lot of excuses. The WWII vets didn't feel nearly as confident about the Sherman as the current generations of tank fanatics. I remember being surprised to hear that the Sherman was vastly outclassed by the German tanks. The Sherman jumbo didn't show up until much later in the war and only after Russia had already destroyed most of the German army (including the Tigers and Panthers)
@@lperea21 Amazing, nothing of what you said is in any way relevant to my points. You're correct on some of that. There was definitely a fear factor surrounding German vehicles, but you're wrong about the relevance of the Russians fighting the Germans. Two different fronts of the war. A majority of those on the Western Front fighting the Americans felt little impact of the Eastern Front's happenings. The vehicles allocated to the Western Front didn't magically disappear because the Russians were gaining ground in the East. But anyways, the point of this being an unrealistic engagement for the reasons I listed have nothing to do with fear factor or tanks teleporting to the other front, but rather Hollywood magic bullshit that doesn't understand the concept of vehicle combat and just wants to make a scene tense and cool
This movie speaks to me.
I did 20 years in the Navy, 15 of it in Naval Special Warfare as an armorer and a MkV and 11m SWCC (dirty boat guy). Two boats per detachment, 7 guys per boat.
1 det, two crews, but each crew thought they had the better boat.
The guys in the tank remind me of the guys I used to roll with. I loved them. I hated them. Best job I ever had!
No
4:04 an 88mm shell at that close range would have punched clean through the armor and Blown Fury apart. that is point blank range.
Well, Fury's plot armor are 26inch thick... too bad they forgot to put it on their tracks
@@Kunst1898 that shell didn't hit the tracks, if you look closely it hits square on the side armor under and a little behind the turret, unlike many I was so done with this film the first shot, because everyone is saying, "ah well the 76mm Sherman Fury is could easily kill the tiger from the front at that range" did everyone have short term memory loss, the only reason they even knew the tiger was there is when the last tank blew up, in an actual German tank ambush, Fury would have been the first tank killed. So when they all die at the end, I didn't really care, because in the collum on the road they should've already been dead.
I know and that's Fury's plot armor... what I mean about the tracks is when they hit a landmine which destroyed their rightside tracks.
Fury 76 gun could have pierced the frontal armor of that tiger, I know easily pierced it from the side.
no armor best armor
This Movie spoke to me. I was a tanker in 4/64 Armor from 86-92 and a gunner the last 2 years. When a tank gets hit, no one survives.
This scene is kinda bunk though. Aside from the Tiger crew targeting the wrong threat for plot's sake 3 times over, Fury's gun was a 76, it should have cut through the Tiger's armor head on with ease.
@@panzerwolf494 that isn't completely true either but ok
@@panzerwolf494 you a stupid ass nigga
@BoxerRick
Really? And you say you’re “a tanker”?
The 12th US Army numbers from June ‘44 till April ‘45 has an average of around 1 death and 2 wounded per “unrecoverable tank lost in action”. Unrecoverable, so it’s not just hits to the tracks etc that distorts the stats.
And funny enough - considering you’re commenting on a Fury clip - the Shermans (especially the late war versions) were some of the most survivable tanks to be in.
Once things like wet stowage for ammo and spring loaded hatches (English is not my first language, but I think that is the term) was fully introduced, Sherman deaths fell to well under 1 per tank!
The Churchill Mk VII had as few as 0.74 crew members killed per tank lost in action.
The only Russian numbers I can dig up are for the T-34 and T-34/85, mid 1944, which is about 28% killed per destroyed tank.
So no… everybody does not die when a tank is hit. Not now and not in WW2.
@@andresortega375 an u is a bitch ass nigga
I think I read somewhere that the tank they used was the ACTUAL last surviving, working, 'Tiger I' in existence. They had to be REALLY careful about how they used it though because, as the Tiger tanks were prone to doing so, they could damage their engines. Too much tank, not enough engine.
Yep it's called tiger 131 amd you can still see it now and then at Bovington tank museum in England. They even have a day each year called tank fest where they have all kinds of tanks driving around including tiger 131. There's also loads of other cool tanks there like a red panther tank from here they were running out of camo paint.
They destroyed the last Tiger?
@@mikethespike056 No they used the actual last tiger in the movie but the destruction of it was all CGI. Hollywood may be dense at times but they (hopefully) aren’t stupid enough to destroy such a valuable piece of military and mechanical history.
@@launcesmechanist9578 bruh i was joking 💀
@@mikethespike056 lol
As a world of tank and war thunder player
Tigers are sometimes my nightmare when i play as a Sherman
Russian bias and german bullshit is what i call it
If you play as t-34 its the same.
You cant be a fan of both, pick one
As a war thunder player, a good tiger gives me nightmares. But you have some that play very stupidly
Fun fact about tanks:
German tanks had engines in the rear, thicker armor, stronger fire power, and 14 wheels total. Our tanks at the time had engines in the front, lighter armor, less wheels. Our tanks were built more like cars. After the WW2 we adopted the German design.
I don't know where you got that information from, but you got it wrong
most tank have their engine on the back, I think you are referring to the placement of the transmission as the German and the US mostly put their transmission on the front, while the British and Russian put their transmission on the back, and the number of wheel depend on the weight of the tank
Also, Sherman's armor wasn't that bad it's a 3 inch thick armor sloped at 40° giving it similar effective protection as Tiger's 100mm frontal armor, the main different was the gun sherman mostly armed with 75mm while Tiger use 8,8cm forcing the sherman to get close or flank from the side or back to have a chance, of course the Allies weren't dumb enough to be out match and so the British upgrade their sherman with 17 pounder and the American while a bit late upgrade their sherman with the 76mm, giving it a good chance to kill a Tiger frontaly at reasonable distance
The Abrams looks like a modern Tiger
Sherman's transmission was located in the front.
I love how everyone just gasps and is in pure shock when the tank commander gets his head disintegrated by the 88 mm (8.8 cm) shell.
The Germans found the 88 flak cannon to be an exceptional tank killer as early as 1939 when they encountered French Char B1 bis heavy tanks and British Matilda II medium tanks, both being slow moving but equipped with armour that was impenetrable by German weapons at that time, except for the 88. Of course, when the Russians brought out their T-34/76 the Germans upped their game and brought out the Panzer V ‘Panther’ and Panzer VI ‘Tiger’, the latter equipped with the deadly 88. The majority of Tigers were lost to breakdowns and crews scuttling them to prevent capture but when they were encountered they were extremely fearsome and in the right hands exceptionally deadly. One Tiger in fact, Tiger 231, took around 252 hits from Soviet tank and anti-tank fire at Kursk, only to its engine and limp away to the shock of Soviet soldiers. Despite its faults (weak transmission, underpowered engine, complicated suspension system, fuel guzzler) the Tiger when encountered was a monster on the battlefield when in the right hands thanks to its heavy armour and heavier hitting cannon.
If yall didn't know, yes. The sherman fury is actually could've penetrated the front armor of the Tiger 1 in the film. It was a M4A2E8 76, but the movie represented a M4A3E8 76, which could punch clean through a tigers front armor. Which is why tigers often targeted these tanks if they were in a group.
Yep, but the standard Sherman was still a better infantry tank, which was essential towards the end of the war. Tigers became white elephants; huge complicated gas guzzlers that couldn't be maintained. Shermans were mocked but they very reliable and versatile, easy to operate and maintain.
Biggest gripe with this scene is 2 things;
1) *The Tactics.*
The tiger with cover and element of surprise WOULD NOT break cover and drive forward after destroying the first tank. It would stationary take pot shots from cover then move/retreat only once receiving a concentrated and steadily, over time - more accurate retaliation. By this point in the war, Germany was on "Loss Restriction Doctrine", as the allies pushed in through Europe. Charging the enemy like this signed the movie Tiger's death warrant.
2) *The Engagement Range Shown.*
The movie at LEAST states "800 yards" which is accurate - but the visuals show much closer, ESPECIALLY as the Tiger breaks cover and drives INTO DEATH. As the tanks get closer, the old, overused trope they are playing on "4 Sherman's to 1 Tiger" goes out the window as at this CLOSER range, ALL TANKS SHOWN CAN PENETRATE THE ENEMY'S ARMOUR. I see so many talking about "Oh, this American tank can't pen a Tiger.. etc, etc.." - Just NO. The lack of pen is at normal engagement ranges at the average range of 500m (roughly 275m - 1km is the actual statistics, or 275 yards - 1200 yards). There just isn't enough distance in the film for the rounds kinetic energy to drop off. Aiming for centre of mass on the front plate, and any of the American tanks here could have killed that Tiger. Again, a real Tiger crew in WW2 would know this and wouldn't have given up the cover/retreat option for suicide. The Americans could still have won, but unlikely due to the initial ambush positions and having one absolutely clean kill already from the Tiger.
Brother I agree with first point but the 2nd one is not true.A 75 sherman would stand no chance against a tiger against all odds.
@@jx231375mm Sherman could stand up against a tiger once they started to receive HVAP rounds.
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 quite late to receive those round as Germany was already defeated
despite the problems the movie has you got to admit its pretty fun to watch and know that the movie producers used a real Tiger tank (Tiger 131) to shoot most of these scenes.
I remember, it was pretty tiring.
Not sure if anybody has mentioned it here yet but this is not how a Tiger ambush would go (If they ever were to ambush completely alone) since they'd take out both ends of the column first so the tanks had more trouble moving into cover. HOWEVER there's a very good reason for it in terms of production, that being that the Tiger seen here is the last running in the world (Currently housed at Bovington Tank Museum) and due to how much time and money it would cost to repair the film crew were given STRICT instructions to what they were and weren't allowed to do with the tank.
I think it was amazing they used a real Tiger.
@@YoureMrLebowski It's an impressive sight. I've seen it running at Tankfest and seen it in the museum, honestly one of, if not, the most intimidating tanks in the place
More like Micheal wittman aka the Black baron who fought against the British battalion.
I was a kid when this movie came out and my dad taught me to be a ww2 nut and seeing tiger 131 moving in real life is always a memory I'll have with my dad so much history and the last one standing.
The Tiger wouldn’t take out the lead tank to “stop the convoy,” they would target the lead tank (Fury in this case) because it’s gun was powerful enough to penetrate the Tiger at that range. There’s no point in stopping the convoy in terrain like this, they’re in a tank, they can very easily maneuver over the flat terrain and retreat. Taking out the trailing tank would also prevent the enemies from seeing the direction the round came from, making it much more difficult to locate the threat.
Everybody’s reaction to when that guy was vaporized by that tank shell. 😳 2:33
To be honest, it was better that to be burn alive when they hit the ammo on this Sherman
This is awesome to see everyone’s reaction, especially seeing Norman turn up after taking out the tiger
This scene was worth the editing and the reactions. Thank you!
With some of the inaccuracies, the guy taking that shell is accurate af and gives me chills knowing there’s really no way to get what’s left home.
This scene is EPIC... for a theatre, not a war scene !!
1/ No skilled tank commander would take down the last, but aim the lead vehicle ! That's a 6 stripe Tiger for you, the movie make these Tiger commander like idiots!
2/ No tankers would abandon their cover advantage like this Tiger commander ! They may have smoke him up, then just simply get out from that smoke and stop to shoot ! Sherman have no chance fight them at >600m like that ! And not to mention, if this was a real battle, the 76mm Sherman a.k.a Fury was the one who die 1st ! That's make other just a sitting duck !
not to mention most Tiger Tank Commanders are selected for their experiences and skills
True... "Fury" as being a "Firefly' would have been taken out first.
@@0Zolrender0 this movie make German as clowns !
- Flak gunners waiting for a big as target like a tank getting close while shoot the other smaller trucks at distance ! Panzerfaults shooter wait until being shot to fall rather than pull the trigger
- Sniper shoot a civilian rather than the enemy tank commander who're exposing himself ! And fight like an idiot rather than retreat when see a tank squad
- Tiger ambush alone........ shoot the last target...... leave the target with big gun live and shoot the small gun carrier first.... abandon the cover advantage..... NOT ANGLING THE ARMOR..... dammit the Tiger scene is the scene make me mad the most
you might have forgotten that the Germans were lacking in experienced troops in late world war two, though I would agree they would have been taught about these tactics before operating a Tiger, rookies could be looking for glory as they might've been straight out of the Hitler Youth.
@@chuntimso Tiger commander were choosen from the experienced Panzer commanders ! When you have permission to take command an Tiger, it's said you were a skilled commander !!
Tiger is the German Nazis trump card, and you say that they gonna let rookie take one into battle and watse it ?
I love how all the reactors were thinking the same things in sync
German technology was so advanced back then. It’s fucking insane even to this day.
We got stealth technology from the German Horton bomber. V2s became ICBMs. It really is crazy
I mean the tiger H wasn't even thay good 😂 only reason it was seen as good is they made it a square a d from the front only weakness is the front plate that's 100mm thick and of course russia and ysa said let's take these short 75mm guns that can hardly go through 60mm of armor in to war and home Germans don't think of using actual armor 😂
But this movie doesn't show the truth about the Sherman's as the 76mm Sherman's can fire accurately on the move and has enough pen to go through his front plate and definitely through his side plate well being next to him. So why did they have to drive around the back of him
@@45atanner Tell that to the T-34s that had to move forward against it. You're not winning a war with a huge mainly immobile tank, but if you have to be outnumbered 10-1, etc then it was pretty dangerous
True 💯
Usually when US armor faced german tanks they retrated and called in air support since Germany had no air superiority way before the landing in France.
Unlike the Soviets the US tried to save as many lifes as possible, which was noted in several diaries of german soldiers.
nerd
@@saltynuts8232 Hey show some respect. I'm a WW2 nerd too.
@@saltynuts8232 because he knows sth you don't? So in that way I can call you 'moron'
Not always, a Sherman could deal with most German tanks.
well soviets were fighting on there land unlike america. If german forces were days away from capturing washington DC we'll see if america focus on saving lives or there country's existence. Germany lost most of his power and forces fighting the russians.
American tanks were inferior in part because we had to make them portable. We had to transport them clear across the Atlantic Ocean to fight the Germans in North Africa and Europe, and we had to transport them all across the vast Pacific Ocean to fight the Japanese. The need to transport our tanks via ship across huge distances imposed size and weight limits on American tanks, whereas there were no such limitations on German and Russian tanks. They were there for free to build larger, heavily armored main battle tanks with bigger, more powerful main guns then the USA as a result. The tradeoff was that American tanks were easier to manufacture and could be mass produced, which allowed the U.S. to win tank battles by outnumbering the opponents.
They actually got one of the few remaining Tigers out of storage to do this sequence. That is an original German Tiger.
Love how everyone was cracking up with the tank crew as they were laughing off the adrenaline. Such good immersion from the portrayals of everyone involved.
Laughed my ass off when almost everyone reacted to Peterson's death.
Michael Wittmann, in command of a single Tiger in Normandy, in one battle, destroyed 14 Sherman tanks.
Lord, that is just terrifying to think about... a beast out there killing everyone you know.
@@YoureMrLebowski Michael Wittmann, 138 confirmed tank kills and 132 confirmed anti tank weapon kills.
He's by far the most successful tank commander of the Second World War, only two other german tank aces come close, Kurt Knispel and Otto Carius.
I thought it was a convoy of tanks, halftracks and trucks?
@@InCognito-vx8gi Have to bear in mind that the Germans counted any vehicle as an 'armoured vehicle' and inflated their stats for propaganda, a bit like CAS pilots are known to.
Don’t forget that most of his kills are trucks and anti tank guns, Germans specifically the SS would inflate their kill numbers so that they wouldn’t be out shadowed by the “inferior” German army tankers so they include cars trucks anti tank guns or just fudge the numbers to make them look better.
It's difficult to overlook the myths this movie buys into with regards to tanks and tactics, but when that chorus begins and that beast revs...
...it's chills me to the bone.
my grandfather was in a tiger tank and he showed me pictures of destroying shermans, he also had a situation back then and they alone took out 4 enemy tanks, no matter which one
what was his role in the Tiger?
@@gunmasterx1164 he was Sagittarius
@@faultier8166 thats real funny
Realistically the FURY and the other Sherman with the long gun 76a1 cannon could pen a Panzerkampfwagen VI ( Tiger 1 ) the front but it is a movie so they treated it like 75mm cannons
Angle tiger join the chat.
@@VIPER27645 degrees 🤓
The Tiger used here has its home at the Bovington Tank Museum. It saw combat in N. Africa when it was known as Tiger 131
As a student aide at McNary Heights Elementary I remember working with a WW2 vet… he remembered the German Panzers well. You could see it in his eyes when he said “we always 3 or 4 of ours working on one of theirs…”
Okay so this movie, as others have already said, was horribly innacurate. However, what it did do _very_ well was showcase just how scary it was going up against a Tiger tank for our boys. They had a fearsome reputation for a _reason_ and I think this movie gets that across rather well, emotionally speaking. Another great tank movie that is also a bit over-the-top, but in the best way, is T-34 released in 2018. It's full of slow-motion shots of the tank round flying through the air that are quite impressive :)
And that Tiger tanks would've been manned by the best crew. Considering how much the Germans had put time into such a project as that
@@koreancowboy42the movie is set in 1944, Germany had no more experienced tankers
I wouldn’t say it was horribly inaccurate. In the first attack when the Sherman’s were being shot at by the Pak 40s (I think they were Pak 40s correct me if I am wrong) the German gunners missed A LOT. That’s due to fear and lack of experience. The movie is set in 1945 and Germany had no experienced fighters left. And my hands would be pretty shaky if 4 enemy tanks were barreling towards me and sending countless .50s and 75/76mm HE rounds at my fucking face.
@@OH-SIX-SPITDo you mean 1945?
My dad told me a story he heard about how 1 Tiger managed to take out a group of 20 Shermans.
yeah its a fake story by german 1945 propaganda
2:08 that's my fav scene when round ricochet and makes a resonating sound. man that's s chef's kiss of this masterpiece.
If the Tiger had stayed where it was or went backwards then the Sherman crews would have been annihilated.
Well, when the Tiger decided to shoot the rear tank instead of Fury, which is on the front and has 76mm gun, we all know this scene is f*cked up
He gets forward because there was smoke and the tiger stop seeing them from smoke
more like it would've just waited for ALL three tanks to get to its flanks while sitting idle; as they shot smoke at it and its crew couldn't see anything from where they were anymore
At the beginning the guy said they must need "heavy artillery" to one shot a sherman
Just about any anti-tank weapon could one shot a sherman from the side at that time
M4 Sherman - Main Armament: 75 mm gun M3
Tiger I - Main Armament: 88 mm KwK 36 L/56
Actually the Fury tank was an M4A3E8 with a 76 mm cannon
My great uncle was a Sherman driver he never talked about til I enlisted in the army in 85 he watched Fury and told me Seeing the Tiger in the movie brought back memories of facing them he wanted to face that feeling before he passed. he passed a year later. RIP Uncle Joe I was named after him.
May that veteran tiger crew rest in peace
In real life 2 Sherman tanks would be enough to destroy 1 tiger tank German Tiger tanks where insane
That v8 growl of the tiger was pure symphony ☠️
Tiger gazing out from the smokes after all those hits just like a horror movie , goosebumps,Evil tiger
the tiger can take them all from 3km away
Just a little fun fact I've noticed with this scene.
While everyone clearly could see how the Tiger had better armor by the number of hits it takes to the front, very few hits Fury takes. In that scene, Fury takes a hit to the side near the turret into some logs and equipment, while the second is off the front. Compared to the other 3 each Sherman was a different model, two had rounded hulls and two had more box-like hulls. when you look at Fury's turret, it looks beefier and larger (minus the larger barrel), which are often found on M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman Tanks. Equipped with heavier armor on the turret and front angle slope, though all other elements of the take are just as weak in the same areas as the other Shermans.
Yeah but fury is a m4a2 Sherman
@@get-memed I think it's an M4A3-76 Sherman.
@@gewalfofwoofia8263 Nah, its more of the M4A3E8 (76)W. Due to its turret, gun, hull shape, and suspension.
@@MightyCanadian Okay 1. You just repeated what he said for no reason, and 2. It's an M4A2E8
@@gewalfofwoofia8263M4A2E8
God bless all of the Sherman tank crews who went into battle in Europe knowing that they were hopelessly outclassed by superior main battle tanks, with little chance to survive! God bless the real “War Daddy” and the actual tank crew of Fury, upon which this movie is based. God bless all the courageous veterans with nerves of steel who risked everything and sacrificed so much to protect our countries and preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! God bless all the souls - military and civilian - that we have lost in times of war! God bless America! God bless us all and grant us peace!
the sherman was in fact not bad nor outclassed as many would think, it was perfectly equipped to deal with most german armor (the heavy hitters such as the tiger and panther were quite rare and most of the german forces were composed by stugs, panzer iv's etc). and even when faced by the big cats the sherman was not that outclassed, as later variants and models tackled issues such as the gun and armor i.e jumbo and firefly which could in fact engage against tigers with ease.
and although quite off topic, the myth of german superiority when it comes to tanks is also untrue, take for instance the pershing, that bad boy could demolish tigers with ease and was nearly on par with the king tiger and such.
Now that part when the Tiger shell took his head off, I was shocked as hell.
My Dude. Mr. Lebowski. Please don't stop. I love these edits! 💜🍿🔥💎
This was a good compilation. Hopefully, you will do one for the final fight scene.
I had the pleasure of working with a gentleman who served in WW2 British armoured support. He said they’d pass the the time playing bingo with one tank calling the numbers & crews marking their cards. One occasion as the game progressed through the evening over the radio came “all the 8s 88” to which the call was “our cards only go up to 80”
The one word reply was “tigers”
His words were the “game abruptly stopped and we fucked off as quietly as our tanks would”
A guy I worked with who was pretty old, his dad was a tank commander in Italy, he said they where more afraid of machine guns because a skilled machine gunner could ricochet rounds down the periscope into the tank where they would bounce around
The Tiger tank was way better than those M4 Shermans. In a real scenario, that Tiger tank could easily destroy those 4 Shermans:
1) The Tiger wouldn't come out from its hiding spot
2) It would have shot Brad Pitt's tank 1st as his tank was leading the convoy.
Yall hear one thing and just regurgitate it, dont you? NO. They would not shoot the first tank.
@wellifailed392 I didn't regurgitate anything. Explain why the Tiger wouldn't shoot the 1st tank.
Love the videos mate. Actually sync up the reactions pretty well. Quick question, would you be able to do a group reaction on the Operations battle from Aliens (1986) ? My fav scene of the whole movie
The scene where they drop down from the ceiling?
@@YoureMrLebowski From that moment up until Vasquez and Gorman’s deaths would be sick. If not, at least Hudson’s last stand and Burke getting nabbed
„Remember me is all I ask”. Remember them, young people of the West. Remember what they did for us, them, young people like yourselves.
I saw an interview years ago of a German tiger tank crewman he said they actually felt bad for Sherman tank crew men. But overwhelming numbers and the ability to continue to produce more indefinitely prevailed.
This one hell of a clean edit of react, nice job dude
thanks, i try 😎
Bit sad to see that there all sad when an American dies but when it’s a German there cheering, in the end they were only soldiers too
Westerners what do you expect
People can't see further than their nose unfortunately.
He said he got hit by heavy artillery but the shell hit ‘em from the side😂
"Let's go right at 'em" says the one tank that has a 76mm cannon.
😆
Regardless of the side, this film portrays very well the suffering that the tankers had to go through
According to first-hand accounts from American tankers and recovery crews American tanks could take out German tanks at about 600 yards they had to get within that distance whereas German tigers and other heavy armored vehicles could reach us at over 2 km
I know I'm late, but that Tiger is designated Tiger 131. The only remaining Tiger tank from WWII. It's been preserved in the Bovington Tank Museum in Bovington, England. It was rented out for the movie. Every single scar and mark on the tank in the movie, it received in battle. It was captured by the 48th British Royal Tank Regiment.
As said by the Sherman tank commander: if he sees you, you have got no chance....
If you see him, you still have no chance.....
Fun fact:
The Americans had an instructions:
Only attack an tiger tank with 5 Shermans
I think it's worth clarifying a couple of points:
1) the German tiger could turn around on the spot.
2) he had enough rate of fire to destroy all the Shermans in this scene.
3) Idiots were not put in the Tiger - they would have to shoot from a well-prepared position, with his long-range gun, he did not to go to the Shermans.
The fighting power of the tiger can be judged by the actions of Michael Wittmann and the horror that appeared on the faces of veterans when they saw these machines after the war.
The film is not bad, but do not consider the Germans stupid, it offends the memory of Soviet, American, French and other soldiers who died in the fight against Nazism.
If you're gonna clarify some facts, at least don't seem so biased. Also clarify the facts that American tanks could easily penetrate the front plate and side plates of the Tiger I and did not have to go all the way to the back of the tank to kill it.
Micheal Wittmann, number one propoganda tool of the panzer corps, not so much skilled as a tanker.
And yet look what happened to Micheal
US fantasy Movie, 4 Shermans in a column had 0 Chance to survive a fight with a Pzkw. VI "Tiger".
What the modern US Tanks took from German Tanks is the ablative Armor which was waay ahead of its time
Both sides were fighting wrong because the Shermans should've used their numbers to flank the Tiger and the Tiger should've reversed and fired at them instead of taking them head on the same way they did plus smoke grenades that Tigers and most German Tanks had were just not there but the movie wanted to show how weak the American tanks compared to Germany and I wouldn't completely agree with that because M-18 had good kills ratio
ima be honest. part of me hurts when i hear a few certain things. but as a tank film. its fantastic
Quality of over quantity. gotta love the 100 mm of RHA armor.
Only two of those Sherman's had the 76 that would go clean through the front of a tiger at 600m
Those who think Sherman was worthy to win let me tell according to tank aces 1 tiger-131 was equal to 10 sherman
But then, the Americans always had 11 Shermans.
@@BravoCharlieIXth yeah nothing but respect to workers in factory
That more so applies to early war 75mm Shermans. Even then, the idea of “it took 5 Shermans to beat a Tiger/Panther” is a massive misconception as it mainly depended on the Sherman’s positioning and whether it was a frontal engagement like the one in the movie.
A 75mm Sherman could still easily take out a Tiger/Panther if it got their side or rear.
However, once we hit late 1943 and heading into 1944, a single Sherman was more than capable of taking out a Tiger/Panther from the front with the new upgraded 76mm cannon.
Then at that point it just mainly depended on who saw who first.
to be fair, at 400mt, 76mm had major chances to pen the tiger ^^
but is a film ... in reality those shermans could be all dead, and tiger killed by P51s called for aerial cover ^^
It's always the Air Force saving the days
It's absolutely hilarious to see both the reactors and commenters, who know nothing about tanks, talk about which tank is superior.
One thing i liked ahout this scene is when they told the sherman to reverse, as it was faster so it could get out of trouble faster then they get into it
Kingsman: Church brawl scene. 😲
I was adopted from Russia, through many connections and friends, much digging through my biological family i found out my grandfather was the main gunner of a soviet t-34, faced combat and survived. I am grateful for him and his courage
If this was real life, all four of those tanks would be whiped out, but for the movie plot, you must have Fury survive and defeat the Tiger. Tiger was beast, well trained crew could do wonders on battlefield as long tank work and they had ammunitions, of course, P51 Mustangs and other planes made life of tankers quite hard, while allies didnt had anything that could match the TIger and King Tiger (with exception of Pershing, Hellcats later in war), Russians did manage with T-34-85s IS-2s still even with rival tanks that could actually destroy Tigers, Tigers remain the beasts of WWII.
Finally someone whose smart.
The tigers had bigger guns than the Panthers and Panzers ever did. And were manned by the best crew, and the crew would've been supported atleast with some infantry and AT in reserve incase the tank was in need of help.
Like for a lone tank to be waiting it atleast should've needed some pockets of infantry or something nearby
if this was real life the fury wouldn't have needed to go behind the Tiger to kill it. The proper distance combined with its 76mm cannon could've allowed it to pen the front and the sides as well.
WTF are you talking about T-34 was trash compared to tiger
T-34 was unable to scratch tiger armor
For those who dont know there is a story of one Tiger fighting 50 T34s and winning the battle, it destroyed 20ish and the rest left
The tiger gunner: 👨🦯👨🦯
Shut up idi0t you know nothing
This was great and amazing movie,please do more of this movie
but not realistic,I like him too !great" action but lot of BS^^
@@whynothumblebeesforpreside3413 shut up it's realistic
@@whynothumblebeesforpreside3413 how so?
@@gearreadyforwar1545 In American WW2 films, the Americans are always the super heroes and everyone else is stupid as hell. And about the film,... the 2x Pak 36/42 would have easily taken out all 3 tanks, including the Tiger (which has its own tactics manual "Tiger Fibel" ) didn't even start. But the film would be over after 40 minutes ;-)
Normally the tiger would have easily destroyed all 4.
But then the film would have been over very quickly.
Crewed M-1A Nothings (105MM) before going to flight school. This scene gives me flashbacks. The technology of armored warfare is so different today.
this scene is stupidly inaccurate though
I still wonder how they made the fire. I mean the Tiger 131 is the last original Tiger 1 Tank that can move under it's own Power. So I highly doubt that they actually made holes in it or set it on fire. Do u guys know how they did that? Pure CGI or a model or how?
I do not know, but my guess would be a model tiger (full size). but i hope someone that does know responds.
They mocked up a Tiger hull and turret on the chassis of a British APC . They were real careful running Tiger 131. The Bovington Tank Museum has a special Tiger day where the run it around the track.
@@davehollick3646 I know about Tiger day but sadly didn't had the time so far to travel from Germany to the UK and see it running ;-;
The Americans did have a Pershing Tank in their ranks. It could match the Tiger more effectively than the Sherman
Not till the end of the war......and regardless Sherman's rarely came up against tigers
@@esdren7424 I meant in that scene
@BoxerRick they didn't have a Pershing there.....3 m4's. 2 armed with 75mm and fury, an easy8 armed with 76mm hi velocity cannon.
@@esdren7424 Even the 76 HV could've just shot the Tiger frontally, there wasn't even a reason for them to charge
@@karomonarch that's what I was saying
Action movie fan: OH NO BIG BAD TIGER SCAWY
anyone who knows anything about battle tactics: OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. COME ON!!!
Germany put out, over the duration of the war, about 49k tanks. US and Britain put out around 115k tanks. Since we showed up late you have to imagine the last years of the war were just this inrush of tank brigades.
So many people too concerned about the accuracy of the movie.
This proves the movie is a great movie, had them all completely captivated and on the edge of their seats holding their breath as the scene progressed... as a movie should.
for some this may be the scene that triggers a further interest in tankes, sure did for me... Sad that a lot of other fellow tank nerds cant see that.
It was nice of Tiger to stopped shooting for the main characters before they did. What a gentleman.
The gunner is saying “ Away “ when firing the gun .
Tiger 1: there's only 4 of them we can take 'em. Move forward!
Fury: Plot armor!!! ayayayayaya
Wow, that was a good one. Keep it up the good work sir.
the dude abides 😎
Well Tiger was an amazing tank. Unfit for the russian winter though. My fav would definitely be the Königstiger.
The british and american Tanks at that time were not comparable at all
Furthermore there are many things wrong with this scene. The Tiger could have easily won if they did the right targeting, if they actually used their cover to their advantage and if they did right movement. If possible keep an angle to make ricochet more likely as well as if in the end they would just turn their tank together with turret instead of letting fury pass and access their weak spot. Also it was stupid to engage in first place since in close combat a penetration through the tigers armor is much more likely whilst at a distance you have decent protection, whereas you maintain superior firepower to basically oneshot everything
The tiger was unfit for a lot more than just the russian winter. Yes, the Tiger couldve easily won, but Fury is an American M4A3E8, so it has a 76mm main gun, and is more than capable of going straight through the front of a tiger, especially at that range. All the tiger had to do was shoot fury first and it wouldve won
@@frosty89x45 that's why this scene is stupid ! Cause in a actual battle, that 76mm is the one who die first ! A rule to all tanker when ambushing. 1st, analyze squad to identify most dangerous target (which is the 76mm Sherman rode by our main chars) and set them as priority. 2nd, take off the lead vehicle to stop the squad. 3rd, take off the last to prevent them from quick retreat. 3rd, kill the priority target. 4th, clean the battle field
It's also have many other skills such as angling the armor, or do not abandon the range advantage of the 88mm Flak gun. The movie make this Tiger commander like a idiot, that a striped Tiger for you
Someone in the comment section explained that Fury was originally written as the 75mm Sherman and the movie crew didn't expect to get the 76mm Sherman but had to go with the movie script they made
Original story draft I think the Tiger looked down on Fury for having only 75mm while Fury had to keep advancing no matter how risky it was
One rule about the Tiger Tank....
They are the might of the Axis War Machine.
That is tiger 131 😮 the only working tiger tank left in the world
Was the tiger that much better?
It was a heavy tank. It's not better, it's heavier, with all its advantages and disadvantages.
The Panther would be comparable to the Sherman and was theoretically better but also very complex and therefore plagued by technical problems. The main opponents were the Panzer III and IV, and the Sherman was better there, depending on the version.
The Sherman was just good enough and corresponded to the technology of the time. The great strength of the Sherman was the standardized production, simple repair and maintenance and thus high availability. That made him better than his reputation.
However, at the time in the film most of the good German tankers had fallen or been captured in Russia and the US troops had to deal with mostly inexperienced and overworked opponents who also suffered from a lack of personnel and supplies. The Russians weren't that lucky and the result was about 12 million dead Russian soldiers.
This tiger looked like it was from the Waffen SS. Although they had good equipment, they were also controversial among the regular troops and not necessarily experienced in combat, but also as particularly bold and willing to make sacrifices, which is why they also had the highest losses.
Every SS unit was also involved in war crimes and they knew what would happen to them if they were captured.
I myself have met 4 of them in my life.
While the encounters with tigers was less than other tanks, the scene just portrays an encounter of when Sherman’s would face off against tigers, which happened at some points
@@odynith9356 it happened only 3 times, only the 1st one they had to actually fight it, the other times they were already left there broken down
Panther was in no way comparable to Sherman. Heavier with much thicker armour and a gun to rival the 17pdr. Ergonomics and reliability were atrocious though
Holy shit you met SS???