Homeowners Association (HOA), Good or Bad?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 135

  • @brianrozarto7601
    @brianrozarto7601 29 дней назад +12

    I rented a 4 BR home in an HOA community in Florida (JAX) managed by a top real estate office.
    It was in our lease that we were responsible for grass, sprinklers needed to stay on (we were responsible for that water bill btw).....and responsible for all HOA regulations as if we were the home owner.
    We bought out of the lease after 5 months and bought my own non HOA home over the FL line into Georgia.

  • @uckBayNguyen
    @uckBayNguyen 29 дней назад +9

    When I bought my first home, it was under HOA. I love the home but had no idea about HOA and it didn't take long for me the realize it's a scam. Unfortunately I sold the home just to have nothing to do with HOA

  • @ALLworldCONSTRUCTIONLLC
    @ALLworldCONSTRUCTIONLLC Месяц назад +8

    I’d love to come on the next show I’m a general contractor who specializes in property maintenance for HOA’s and I’ve seen a lot. I also understand the covenants and bylaws, etc..

  • @redtiger7268
    @redtiger7268 29 дней назад +8

    Craziest thing I ever saw in my 20 years of real estate. During the 08 crash I was working in San Diego California. There was a high rise build, maybe 90 units if I remember right. At the time the units were going for $650k base with a $375 HOA. Prices started dropping fast. They fell all the way to low $300s. The HOA went all the way up to $1500 a month. What was happening was the HOA wanted to keep what they saw as "lower class" people from buying the units. Eventually the city DA got involved and it was found to be a discriminatory practice. During discovery it was found the HOA has 15 years of reserves due to the over charging.

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад +1

      Wow 🤯

    • @yorsan2240
      @yorsan2240 29 дней назад +3

      Let me guess, nobody was charged with crimes

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 29 дней назад +1

      Not surprised. This is still happening all of the time. Keep the "undesirables" out.

  • @VanessaBurton-hb9pm
    @VanessaBurton-hb9pm 29 дней назад +7

    I live in a gated townhouse community and there is good and bad with the HOA.. They take great cares of the grounds but I draw the line at being told what to have on my deck or front door.

  • @roxann.
    @roxann. 29 дней назад +9

    The hoas in Florida screen the person buying a home. The buyer has to pay to apply and have to be approved by the hoa first. (This also happens for each tenant of a property. Each tenant has to be approved by the hoa first)They do a background check, credit check ect. They want a picture of your dog/ pets, they ask for your marriage license, and list of the cars. It’s probably the most intrusive application I’ve ever seen.

    • @yorsan2240
      @yorsan2240 29 дней назад +4

      I wouldn't live in an HOA if it's free, paying is nonsense

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 29 дней назад

      ​@@yorsan2240 exactly

    • @fantasticfamily5004
      @fantasticfamily5004 28 дней назад +1

      HOA’s. Are responsible IF. It is noted in Bylaws & CC&R. Which GOVERNS it self. The problem is when you have a board that self elects itself . They are investors and a little bit Little it’s 80% investor own 20% owner own here in California. A court has ruled in our favor for owner own and occupied. Only owner own and occupied can vote investors cannot because they don’t live here. Our homes were built in the 70s. A little by little children who didn’t want to keep the property sold it, and unfortunately fell into the wrong hands. Not to speak ill of realtors, but it’s also their responsibility along with the mortgage company. To work together with the HOA and the covenants that rule them.

  • @TiktokTownhall
    @TiktokTownhall Месяц назад +4

    I love when my fav creators collaborate, it makes me happier than it probably should 😂😂😂❤

  • @ovrjoyd
    @ovrjoyd 29 дней назад +4

    Great show. This was the show I was looking forward to, and ironically, I got stuck in an HOA meeting tonight.

    • @SachsRealty
      @SachsRealty  29 дней назад +1

      Now that’s perfect timing 😎

    • @ovrjoyd
      @ovrjoyd 29 дней назад +1

      @@SachsRealty Right? I had to watch it on the replay. I was sad to miss the live chat, since many of us follow Kristina Smalllhorn and get together every Sunday and Tuesday.

  • @AMAngel
    @AMAngel Месяц назад +5

    Awe yay, you guys got together 😃 I watch you both all the time.

  • @PS5820-wv7kk
    @PS5820-wv7kk Месяц назад +4

    Thanks for another great show. It's great that people with the experience and good intentions such as Todd and Kristina are willing to have the conversations that help regular people understand some of the ins and outs of real estate.
    Thank you both.

  • @LibertyDIY
    @LibertyDIY Месяц назад +10

    4:25
    If you like poisoned lawns/watersheds, insurance, taxation, fines, bureaucracy, codes and rules, youll love HOA.

  • @EcceHomo1088
    @EcceHomo1088 Месяц назад +10

    You don’t own the property… you DONT have a say with what I do with it!

  • @BDUBB24
    @BDUBB24 29 дней назад +4

    The theory of an HOA is great, the practical application of it is nothing more than micro-government with wasteful spending, over-regulation, and a drain on people’s money and patience.

  • @CR-cx2zc
    @CR-cx2zc Месяц назад +1

    That was great Todd mentioning about Zillow. Thank you for the information and sharing that.

  • @ohuanasis
    @ohuanasis 28 дней назад +3

    It can be the greatest property but the moment I hear it's HOA...I consider it to be worthless.

  • @yorsan2240
    @yorsan2240 29 дней назад +4

    Stay away from HOAs period, they'll end if we refuse it

  • @robertbender73
    @robertbender73 28 дней назад +2

    In most states you need to be 90 days delinquent before you can even file for eviction. Then you have to spend months in the costly foreclosure process. Plenty of time for owners to contest in court, especually if reason for foreclosure was unsupported.

  • @kevind5026
    @kevind5026 29 дней назад +1

    Great show, Todd

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR Месяц назад +1

    This was great Todd, Kristina is the best.

  • @mauriciocruz3225
    @mauriciocruz3225 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for all the information I really appreciate.

  • @kevind5026
    @kevind5026 29 дней назад +3

    An HOA is a great way for a first tine hone buyer to question why they bought, HOA is worse than having a landlord. At least landlords have some responsibility

  • @sunnybunnyranch
    @sunnybunnyranch 29 дней назад +5

    I’m in a single family home. Hoa pays for lawn and insurance and some other common sewer stuff. The fee went from $330 in 2022 to $525 in 2023/2024, and $845 for 2025. they ruined the community

    • @carolinacamilo3261
      @carolinacamilo3261 27 дней назад

      How is that legal??? 😮

    • @lcjennah1
      @lcjennah1 26 дней назад

      Same thing happened to us. The HOA was to high already at $1162/month including utilities in New York. But then with only a two month notice, it went to $1700.00 for only a 1-bdrm, 1 ba appt. They are claiming to be in arrears. If anyone has any information, please share.

  • @robertbender73
    @robertbender73 28 дней назад +1

    The problem with HOAs are many boards members have no real estate or financial experience and make poor decisions. The owners in most states have to have at least a majority to change HOA by-laws. IL requires 2/3 votes in favor, and if an HOA evicts, they have to buy out your property

  • @kellyname5733
    @kellyname5733 Месяц назад +11

    Nope, Never Ever, 100% no way will I ever have an HOA again. Its Extortion!!

  • @cfoster6804
    @cfoster6804 29 дней назад

    I've been listening to these two for a while now.

  • @bumblebay9559
    @bumblebay9559 29 дней назад +3

    No one is talking about condo HOAs not having sufficient insurance. Lenders are denying financing, will not allow basic insurance only , want broad & special insurance.

  • @kickback-time
    @kickback-time 29 дней назад +5

    HOA: get the Heck Out of the Area

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR Месяц назад +7

    HOAs are like that song "Every Body Wants to Rule the World." 😂

  • @acesh5606
    @acesh5606 29 дней назад +2

    I would never buy in HOA again! HOA sucks in every way!! I will all day pay more for a house that is NOT in HOA!

  • @karenjensen2345
    @karenjensen2345 Месяц назад +2

    We live in a 55 plus development, we absolutely love all the activities and how beautiful the grounds are, so we put up with our 235.00 HOA but I don't recommend it for younger people with families.
    We keep voting for the HOA to be run buy the builder, because they are doing a great job. We have the choice. Ours only allows rentals for 6 months or longer.
    My previous house had no HOA and we had the next door neighbor from hell. We had to sell in the dead of winter because we didn't want the buyers to see that the neighbors never mowed the grass.
    They do allow 20% under 55. And adult children can live with their parents, and unfortunately there is a lot of that, 100% of them male.
    The HOA does drive around fining people for mostly excessive lawn ornaments.
    We have 15 pools and zero lifeguards.

  • @ALLworldCONSTRUCTIONLLC
    @ALLworldCONSTRUCTIONLLC Месяц назад +1

    There’s a couple that are renting in this one undisclosed spot and the management keeps getting fined for random things like not having a decorative crossbeam on the front of the fence on the lower third third of the fence.

    • @garyssimo
      @garyssimo Месяц назад +1

      I have a story that will amuse nd scock many. Like " remove your potted plants from upper deck immed. They are too heavy. Um...well they weigh about 270 lbs combined and deck is 10 ft with 5 2 by 6 joists in great shape. That holds about 3,000 lbs. This hoa is gonna get 224 owners in dire straights soon. Got us BLACKLISTED from all fed ins loans due to negligence and breach of fiduciry duty . total value drop to all units combined is approx 9.6 .million.

  • @faithsrvtrip8768
    @faithsrvtrip8768 29 дней назад +4

    Never. Again. HOAs are a total nightmare. Good luck you'll need it. Why is she moving back and forth in her chair? Self stimulation?

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад +1

      Adult ADHD, I honestly have been told my whole life "keep still" I just can't, I try and try and I am just a spaz as my brothers used to say.

    • @faithsrvtrip8768
      @faithsrvtrip8768 22 дня назад

      ​@@KristinaSmallhorn Okay so get a chair that doesn't move for interviews. Very distracting. It's similar to someone that bounces their knee. Bad habit.

  • @Ride-Fly
    @Ride-Fly 29 дней назад +1

    Prices didn't drop much in Louisiana and other states like Texas because they hadn't been inflated yet. The prices were normal but now that Texas has had its boom that will change.

  • @syrleneclarke1299
    @syrleneclarke1299 29 дней назад +1

    True that's why the homeowners has/should home insurances

  • @anomaly2990
    @anomaly2990 29 дней назад +2

    I avoid HOAs like the plague.

  • @Cyrus992
    @Cyrus992 Месяц назад +9

    Stop buying from builders who put in a HOAs. We need to start new alternative companies.
    An alternative to HOA's are more compact city governments who offer tax rebates for taking care of their properties.

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад +3

      In Most cases the builders can't get the neighborhood approved by the city/county unless they establish an HOA, they really don't have a choice.

    • @Cyrus992
      @Cyrus992 29 дней назад +1

      @@KristinaSmallhorn really? How can we stop this?

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад

      @@Cyrus992 whenever there is a plan zoning meeting for your area show up and voice your concerns.

    • @Cyrus992
      @Cyrus992 29 дней назад +2

      @@KristinaSmallhorn will do thanks. Same with parking mandates and 6 lane collector arterial roads.
      - Strong Towns Las Vegas

    • @lizhoward9754
      @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

      That doesn’t work in areas where 80 percent of the housing is in a HOA…there is no choice

  • @Annajsee
    @Annajsee 28 дней назад

    These developments are occurring because the largest purchase, specifically mortgage rates, is being impacted. Your home represents the largest purchase, with all other expenditures following suit.

  • @Dpartsch3
    @Dpartsch3 27 дней назад +1

    We have an HOA which is actually our CC&R's (but called HOA). A group of people (About 50 our of 300 owners) want to take on a million dollar road that leads into our community (But is not our responsibility). I know this is totally illegal and have stood up to this group. Our CC&R's say we are only responsible for three roads in our community. The road they want to take over will cost $1,000,000. Do you have any recommendations (besides getting a lawyer) on handling this? I feel it is totally corruption (and the past president was actually taking our money).

    • @Dpartsch3
      @Dpartsch3 27 дней назад

      Tod, so you actually mentioned something similar that you went through. But the million dollar road IS NOT in our HOA. They will actually hurt all the fixed income people into a foreclosure.

  • @artemisarrow8492
    @artemisarrow8492 Месяц назад +12

    I 100% side with her. An HOA preventing people from renting is good!! It's one of the only ways to fight against company's buying up houses. He is 100% wrong here. If you don't like it don't live in an HOA.

    • @EcceHomo1088
      @EcceHomo1088 Месяц назад +6

      … communist much?

    • @alucard4860
      @alucard4860 29 дней назад +5

      That’s if the HOA is preventing it.

    • @kevind5026
      @kevind5026 29 дней назад +2

      That's an extremely odd reason to defend HOAs. Considering NONE on them prevent ppl from renting

    • @JerryMarshall-m8f
      @JerryMarshall-m8f 29 дней назад

      Horrible and completely anti American

    • @AMNationMedia
      @AMNationMedia 29 дней назад +2

      What about the everyday hardworking common folk who buy their 1st house, live in it for 3-5 years, they work hard and save up for another down payment to then keep their first house in order to rent it out and move into their 2nd home? Should they be penalized by these rental eliminations or limits too?

  • @robertbender73
    @robertbender73 28 дней назад

    Todd, you need to read the by-laws before buying, and realtors are the worst at not properly informing buyer to have an attorney review the terms. We have a rental freeze, unless you were grandfathered in. The owners voted for it to protect their assn from becoming a rental neighborhood. It made it possible for federal loans for new buyers and protected our values during GFC.

  • @YourAgentSergio
    @YourAgentSergio 26 дней назад

    I became a Realtor in 2005, started working in Property Management in 2016, and became a Portfolio HOA Manager 2 years ago, I came across your channel several years ago and I’ve been a huge fan ever since.. I have always had many things to comment on your episodes, but I’ve always withheld, and now I feel I need to chime in.. this lady has a lot to say about HOA Management, but it doesn’t really seem like she understands how HOA management works.. I would love to have a conversation about this episode Todd or if you would take my notes I would love to share

  • @lcjennah1
    @lcjennah1 26 дней назад

    Maybe those comps were sold to buyers who were willing to pay over asking. If that’s true then I’d rather for Zillow to continue to be honest about the true market value rather than the over asking value that some of the greedy sellers would rather sell the house for. In the end, the usually inexperienced buyer is left holding the bag. On the false listing prices, the taxes and insurance are able to illegally increase. We’re talking about old houses/shacks that need exponential amounts of work. Some of the houses are just money pits that need total rehabilitation.

  • @deborahheckstall1881
    @deborahheckstall1881 Месяц назад +1

    If your buying into a HOA Give them your contract. Let then abide by your rules. A contract will hold these bylaws and board members accountable because it will be binding.

    • @robertbender73
      @robertbender73 28 дней назад

      By-laws are enforcable contracts. Understand the terms before you buy

  • @insiteandawareness3500
    @insiteandawareness3500 29 дней назад +1

    I live in an HOA and I don't really like it very much. They're behind on maintenance but I'm paying my dues each month. I have not been popular because I pointed this out so they made sure to have the annual meeting when I can't be there. Dealing with our president is like being bit by a snake. I don't recommend buying in an HOA after this experience. I'm going to rent out my condo and move away. We don't even have a board which is against our bylaws.

    • @SachsRealty
      @SachsRealty  29 дней назад

      Thank you so much for sharing your experience.

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 29 дней назад

      Retaliation is a common problem in HOAs.

  • @thegringo3667
    @thegringo3667 29 дней назад +2

    I have 1 townhome only 800 sqft in Houston, have to pay for them 330 $/ month for HOA ,l ask them why too much ,they said too much for them repair

    • @yorsan2240
      @yorsan2240 29 дней назад

      That's nothing compared to condos in florida, get rid of it before they come up with florida like condo laws, it'll be worthless if they do

    • @robertbender73
      @robertbender73 28 дней назад

      ​@@yorsan2240FL condo laws should have been in place years ago, as the HOAs have been under allocating for maintrnance. Now current owners have to pay for those years of unfunded repairs. Never buy unless there are sufficient reserves for future repairs

  • @wespotter6985
    @wespotter6985 29 дней назад

    By the podcast giving consumers the numbers of the ideal checklist when looking for a helpful realtor. The problem as I see it is that the buyer or seller doesn't have the same financial interest and and that sets up a tension in the entire process.

    • @SachsRealty
      @SachsRealty  29 дней назад

      Thanks for your comment, but I’m a little confused by your point. Can you elaborate a bit as I feel it could be beneficial.

  • @arifedickerson8511
    @arifedickerson8511 29 дней назад +2

    Voted then out

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад +1

      You have to get a significant amount of votes to dismantle an HOA, its a very difficult process.

  • @ln91222
    @ln91222 28 дней назад

    Never again. Our HOA hired a property management company who wrote up infractions and then fined homeowners AND kept the fines. This is not unique. Also, the property company applied homeowner payments to fines first, then dues. Big problem, because you could lose your house for non payment of dues. I believe a law was enacted to correct this priority of payments issue. Also, you cannot force HOAs to abide by their own rules or bylaws. You can get a lawyer (good luck with that), but then the HOA will also get a lawyer. Know where the HOA gets that money? From the homeowners. I actually sat on the Board for my HOA (other fed up neighbors talked me into it and voted me in). I have never seen such awful humans. I couldn't get outta there fast enough. Finally, our HOA had limits on dues increases and did not have enough money to maintain the pools and public spaces. Never, ever again.

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

    58:34 - in this instance where you are talking about a HOA dictating who you can and can’t sell your house to, Krista is using coops in NYC as an example of HOAs telling you who you can sell to. You can’t compare coops to regular real estate. There are big legal differences, With a coop, you are buying “stock shares” in a building which is a totally different transaction than regular real estate. With a coop you get a stock certificate and not a deed. Coops are also not eligible for FHA financing just because the coop boards can decided who buys into the building. Believe it or not, there are pluses to coop boards but there are a lot of negatives

  • @ronaldreagan-ik6hz
    @ronaldreagan-ik6hz 4 дня назад +1

    oh boy. i am surprised she did it. shes a liberal, you are not. this will be interesting. congrats to both to be willing to talk.

  • @bryanupton9872
    @bryanupton9872 29 дней назад

    All these proposed licenses, regulations and mandates are disgusting!

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

    I disagree with Kristina. We do need condo rules/HOAs in apartment condos. BUT we don’t need HOAs in detached single family homes. Depending on the layout of a townhouse development, you don’t need them there as well. I know. I lived in a 1930s row house in DC with no HOA and it was a beautiful community.

  • @mikedavison4313
    @mikedavison4313 29 дней назад +1

    HOA is the perfect vehicle for grumpy old Karen's to weild power.
    HOAs power should be curtailed to controlling common areas and general cosmetics in a broad term, not at micro level.

  • @welfarestates8465
    @welfarestates8465 29 дней назад +1

    So many of us have bought new builds recently, and I'd really like to hear more about that topic. And please not a bunch of horror stories only.

  • @Choedon_lhamo_realtor
    @Choedon_lhamo_realtor 29 дней назад +1

    Why she hates realtors so much?

  • @joeatch2
    @joeatch2 28 дней назад +2

    HOAs simple democracy. They represent the will of the majority of the owners. They are neither good nor bad. The problem is no one reads the documents of the HOA to see what the rules are before buying. No one looks at the financials to see if it's solvent. The problem with the HOA is the ignorant buyer that never does the research.

    • @fantasticfamily5004
      @fantasticfamily5004 28 дней назад

      That is not true. It’s not a democracy. It’s your obligation when you buy an HOA just like I have before and currently live in to Red when that mortgage company has you the CC &R and bylaws. THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN OWNER IN OUR CASE WE HAVE 80% INVESTORS WHICH THE JUDGE RULED IN OUR FAVOR. AND IT MUST GO DOWN TO 20% INVESTORS.
      THIS WILL PROTECT OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY And under age. Living was not part of our original CC and R. Or bylaws.

    • @lizhoward9754
      @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

      HOAs are not a democracy. You either abide and agree to their rules or you don’t. The majority of the homeowners in the HOA didn’t just sit around and make rules as to what color you can paint your front door or what shrubs you can plant or how high your fence can be or if you can build a pool in your yard.

  • @sweetpb100
    @sweetpb100 27 дней назад +1

    Seems like all the communities now have HOA.

  • @robertbender73
    @robertbender73 28 дней назад +1

    This gal is clueless Karen. Financial reporting is driven by state and local laws, by-laws and declarations. HOAs all should have annual audits

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

    HOAs are here because local municipalities love having the huge tax revenue coming in from these massive, city size HOA developments without having to pay for sidewalks and roads within the development. The problem is the HOAs not only bring in tons more people without the HOA paying to expand the main road arteries, bike paths, sidewalks, schools, etc but they dictate what you can or can’t do to the property you own. The local municipality gets all this wonderful “free” revenue but after a couple of years the government pays out the nose to add schools, deal with extreme traffic, police, fire, etc. HOAs are a lose-lose for everyone

  • @cfoster6804
    @cfoster6804 29 дней назад

    I have never seen a lifeguard at an apartment pool.

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

    HOAs would work well if they stuck to the basics such as garbage collection, snow removal, maintaining common areas, roads and sidewalks in the HOA. The problem comes in when they dictate what you can and can’t do with your own land and outside of your home. The other problem is that HOAs all have some idiot that drives around with the HOA “rule book” in hand looking for violators. Every single condo and HOA development have these “rule book” people. HOAs also impact housing values…the higher the fees, the lower the property values.

  • @jasontayn7028
    @jasontayn7028 Месяц назад

    For some reason, I never click subscribe to her channel but now she’s talking about land. It’s over for that.

  • @yahcobysrayah
    @yahcobysrayah Месяц назад

    What about vicarious responsibility by the homeowner to the renter.

    • @kevind5026
      @kevind5026 29 дней назад

      Nobody would rent if they have responsibilities with maintenance and repair. For many, that is the only reason they rent. If the landlord can't afford to own the home without a tenant in the home, the landlord is in over their head. In other words, that is a slumlord. Nobody wants an irresponsible landlord

  • @albenfischer
    @albenfischer Месяц назад +2

    How does Todd not know what a Karen is? 😂

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад

      I thought it was funny that he had never heard the expression before.

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 29 дней назад

      Right

  • @Maxine5515
    @Maxine5515 29 дней назад

    Thanks for the video. Please don’t keep swinging your body and chair. I got dizzy.

    • @KristinaSmallhorn
      @KristinaSmallhorn 29 дней назад +1

      I can’t help it. I swear. Since I’ve been a wee little girl my dad would scream “would you keep still” and I literally can’t. My brother say I’m just a spaz.

  • @glendacastillo6504
    @glendacastillo6504 2 дня назад

    I'm getting dizzy watching her rocking the chair. Bye!

  • @awangbelantara9644
    @awangbelantara9644 20 дней назад

    More money to Israel!

  • @nohopeequalsnofear3242
    @nohopeequalsnofear3242 29 дней назад

    Detroit is not coming back...

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 29 дней назад +1

      Lol, they are gentrifying some areas. I've driven around there and seen it with my own eyes.

    • @lizhoward9754
      @lizhoward9754 25 дней назад

      That’s not what I have read and heard. Today’s Detroit us not your 1990s Detroit

    • @nohopeequalsnofear3242
      @nohopeequalsnofear3242 25 дней назад

      @cfoster6804 I spent 20 years in metro Detroit. I was raised there. I had to leave metro Detroit for a better life in silicon valley.
      I would have rather stayed in Detroit, but it's dead. It's been a dead city since 1967 when the blacks rioted & destroyed the city.
      That is the cold hard facts. Since I was a child, everyone has been saying Detroit is coming back. A simple check on Google maps will show mile after mile of destroyed homes and empty lots. You do such a disservice by deceiving people into thinking Detroit is gentrifying. I wish it was true. But that is a bald face lie , and it will get decent people hurt who decided to visit detroit.