BOXING PSYCHOLOGY: ANTHONY JOSHUA VS TYSON FURY

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @DrWuDoc
    @DrWuDoc 3 года назад +24

    I think Fury is naturally more extroverted than AJ. For me a true measure of confidence is what a man does.
    AJ fought top 10 opposition far quicker than Fury. 19th fight for AJ was Klitschko, Fury’s was Vinny Maddalone. No comparison.
    Fury in his career has appeared to avoid fights. He avoided David Price, mandatory defence of British title, yep he vacated.
    He avoided the Klitschko rematch, pulled out twice.
    He didn’t take the Wilder rematch straight away.
    Was offered the AJ fight on his comeback, chose Wilder.
    Didn’t want to fight Whyte as an eliminator for the WBC belt.
    Fury’s record is sketchy and very inconsistent. This is a sure sign of psychological weakness. Inconsistency.

  • @leeharlow5633
    @leeharlow5633 3 года назад +17

    Comparing when AJ fought Vlad and when Fury fought Vlad is pointless. Aj had 44 professional rounds when he fought Vlad and has still only boxed 122 rounds, fighting in 10 world title fights.
    Fury had boxed 134 rounds before he fought Vlad, and now boxed 191 rounds, fighting in 3 world title fights, which is a bit of a difference.
    There was also the added pressure of virtually selling out every arena he’s pretty much fought in, up to 90,000 at Wembley.
    The pressure of belt collecting, unifying along the way, with the lure of an undisputed always around the corner.
    Aj has done pretty well I would say.

  • @findeisellogic1015
    @findeisellogic1015 3 года назад +12

    Perception is everything in the eye of the public. Before his loss AJ looked the same before lead up to every fight. After Ruiz loss everyone’s perception of AJ is he’s mentally weak.

  • @stevenmackintosh8160
    @stevenmackintosh8160 3 года назад +17

    Ruiz was extremely respectfully before the AJ fight, almost like a starstruck fan and look how that worked out. It was almost like a mindgame from Ruiz to make AJ underestimate him.

    • @DarnallDubois
      @DarnallDubois 3 года назад

      It was all mindgames

    • @craigg4219
      @craigg4219 3 года назад

      That was mind games and Joshua took the bait and handed the belts over to him. After that moment Ruiz had him.

    • @jaxxmathew7620
      @jaxxmathew7620 3 года назад

      Sorry to be offtopic but does anyone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account??
      I was stupid lost my login password. I would love any assistance you can offer me!

  • @1Carly
    @1Carly 3 года назад +13

    Hatman, what about Furys response to Joshua in regards to celebrity and sports personality. He says he isnt interested, but I actually thinks thats everything he wants, and now rejects the idea of it because he isnt getting it. After Klitchko the lack of support is what sent him into decline?

  • @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
    @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 3 года назад +8

    I don't believe Fury is more confident than AJ at all. Fury come across as one of those guys who talks a lot to compensate for his insecurities..........not everything is what it seems. Remember when Price said he'd fight Fury & Fury gave that cringe (yet entertaining) interview at ringside? Came across like a nervous guy to me.

  • @DEEDUBZ
    @DEEDUBZ 3 года назад +6

    I miss 90s Boxing. Regarding today, I think Tyson Fury's elusiveness, activity and stamina to easily go 12 is a bad match up for Anthony Joshua. Even Hughie would give Anthony problems. We'll see how this pans out in 2021. Wilder fight Dillian. They all just need to fight and stop with the mindless quarels. Great video by the way Hatman..superb introspection

  • @mychals386
    @mychals386 3 года назад +5

    I’m only about 10 minutes through (so not sure if you touch on it) but Rummy’s Corner did an hour long interview with Manny Steward years ago where he goes through the best HW’s in history. Talks about their mentality and otherwise. Think you and your viewers would enjoy it if they haven’t seen it.

  • @DavidUKesb
    @DavidUKesb 3 года назад +44

    What Fury excels at is preventing his opponent from doing what he wants to do. It's by far the most underrated skill in boxing.

    • @dandare14
      @dandare14 3 года назад +5

      Because he did it against Klitschko and because Wilder has always had weaknesses on the inside that were plain to see?

    • @freddiepizerhall8324
      @freddiepizerhall8324 3 года назад +13

      @Lu 123 Chisora twice, Christian Hammer, Klit, Wilder twice and soon to be Joshua. Just because he doesn’t fight a bunch of B level 40 year old fighters doesn’t mean he’s not great.

    • @dandare14
      @dandare14 3 года назад +2

      @@smokemeakipper1076 not much left apart from him boxing skill, speed, movement, punch variety, ring IQ, height and range? Yes, he cedes some of those points to Fury - but not all of them. AJ has never solely relied on his power, hence why he’s barely lost a round in his entire career. Fury might be able to take the sting off those shots by riding them, but he won’t manage to do that with all of them unless it’s a low volume fight. If it is a low volume fight, it’s then on AJ to force the pace. Whether he will or not is yet to be seen.

    • @DragonX-dl6yo
      @DragonX-dl6yo 3 года назад +1

      @@dandare14 honestly what are you smoking?

    • @freddiepizerhall8324
      @freddiepizerhall8324 3 года назад +2

      @Lu 123 Wrong, Chisora was Number 1 in line to fight Klit. Wilder can’t box yet is a top 5 long reigning champion 😂. What styles has Joshua fought that are close to Fury? Oppositely Fury schooled Klitschko who’s style is similar to Joshua. Joshuas style is tailor made for Fury

  • @thepathfinder5414
    @thepathfinder5414 3 года назад +7

    True what u say. But confidence in other personalities is not displayed as is in others. Evander Holyfield has always been soft spoken and respectful but his will to want to win is up there with the most confident. Joe Louis was the same but his tenacity in the ring was special. Just because you loud and respect no one doesn't necessarily mean you have the inner fortitude and resilience to be the best in the game I guess is what I want to point out. Joe Calzagi was bullied in school and wasn't one to voice confidence but he fought with heart ...I felt the need to say this because many people make the mistake of not taking time to read a person but go on the noise they make. He said this, or didn't therefore he is scared or he will win etc

  • @kareemrhouila4023
    @kareemrhouila4023 3 года назад +10

    When man said ‘the requisite mental astitution’ I paused it. Gonna watch later when my brains turned on.

  • @Kingshakazulu
    @Kingshakazulu 3 года назад +8

    There’s nothing wrong with AJ being cautious due to his loss against Ruiz. He has done tremendously to recover and change his style. He can’t go into ring, thinking he will knock everyone out. Look at how Klitschko fought cautiously after his knockout losses. He started clinching a lot. Can Fury recover if he gets knocked out, I highly doubt. You measure a mans strength, by how he recovers after defeat.

  • @jaywalker2083
    @jaywalker2083 3 года назад +7

    I wouldn't confuse Fury's ability to get under people's skin with his confidence. He's good at getting under people's skin and making them doubt themselves, as he's quick-witted and doesn't mind being brash and rude. His confidence though I'd question. There's a reason he's only fought 1 top 50 fighter in 5 years.

    • @Beans360
      @Beans360 3 года назад +1

      And AJ gets his confidence from beating 40 year olds 🤣

    • @jaywalker2083
      @jaywalker2083 3 года назад +3

      @@Beans360 What do you think of Fury's record? Do you think he took fights like Schwarz and Wallin because he was supremely confident?

  • @babatundejimoh8281
    @babatundejimoh8281 3 года назад +8

    Hatman, I remember correctly in your podcast pre Wilder/Fury 2 that you underrated Fury. You based your judgement of the Otto Wallin fight. It turned out that Wilder/Fury 2 was a completely different fight to your prediction. Fury/Aj is a different fight . Don't use your assertion of the past to predetermined anything in that fight, be it Fury or Aj.

  • @JoeStunner
    @JoeStunner 3 года назад +5

    I agree that Bernays' book is well worth a read. Chomsky and Herman's Manufacturing Consent is another essential work.

    • @Inmyownleague
      @Inmyownleague 3 года назад

      The best book on propaganda in my opinion is (propaganda the formation of men's attitudes by Jacques Ellul)

  • @cg8935
    @cg8935 3 года назад +12

    lets not ignore and forget that Manny Steward was the greatest boxing trainer of all time

    • @leefox3834
      @leefox3834 3 года назад +1

      I'd say he was one of them

  • @charlesarchibong
    @charlesarchibong 3 года назад +5

    I think, before the Ruiz fight, AJ goes into fights believing in his invincibility & that's not entirely right because a single punch from his opponent can change everything. Fear can be good sometimes if properly managed. I think AJ is a prudent fighter now & I'll count that a plus to his skill set.

  • @vinnybrig569
    @vinnybrig569 3 года назад +8

    Fury will win this fight, before the fight even starts. Complex, unpredictable, And the king also of mind games...

    • @segunjohnsonafilaka2511
      @segunjohnsonafilaka2511 3 года назад +1

      These things are really serious. Complexity, unpredictability and mind games. These are the things that confused Vladimir Klitschko whilst he fought Tyson Fury. 🤷‍♂️

  • @JCRule69
    @JCRule69 3 года назад +11

    This is Hatman at his best.
    👊🏿

    • @theboss297
      @theboss297 3 года назад +1

      These and the career review type videos are my favourites

    • @bradleyjones3052
      @bradleyjones3052 3 года назад

      THA BOSS 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

  • @mrkwxbenn
    @mrkwxbenn 3 года назад +5

    Thank you. Especially in 2020. Single Man living at home and your channel helped with loneliness especially during the March to June lockdown.
    My new resolution is to use any INTELLIGENCE I have to full effect although being over 50 not achieved a lot it maybe I have none lol.
    INTELLIGENCE or MENTAL in boxing me confused?

  • @EonWithLove
    @EonWithLove 3 года назад +13

    AJ knocked out Klitschko ...Fury didn't. Being a loud badmouth doesn't make you confident or win fights. Confidence can be quiet.

  • @kevingeorge9727
    @kevingeorge9727 3 года назад +11

    Hatman you really are giving Fury way to much credit for beating Wilder. History will eventually show that Wilder wasn't very good and was carefully matched his whole career. Further, you highlight Fury's confidence before the Klitchko fight. That was his twenty sixth fight. Joshua hasn't even had twenty six fights. Fury beat Klitchko by being messy and fiddly. He never had him hurt or on the canvas. I've been watching boxing a long time like you. If i saw something in Fury i'd say 'yeah. He's the real deal'. I just don't. I can't see a way Fury finishes the Joshua fight on his feet. In fact i don't think the fight will happen because i don't think Fury really wants it.

    • @craigg4219
      @craigg4219 3 года назад

      Watch the fight again and see klitchkos face at the end.

    • @kevingeorge9727
      @kevingeorge9727 3 года назад +3

      @@craigg4219 Did you see Fury's face at the end of the Wallin fight! Joshua's going to knock Fury out in five rounds if they fight. I'm not fan boy of anyone's. Klitchko spent twelve rounds looking for the right hand. Wilder spent twenty four rounds just looking for the right hand. No real jab. No ability to set up shots. No ability to evade punches going backwards. Terrible footwork. He's an awful fighter. Joshua is also a better finisher. Wilder wastes much of his own good work because he is rash and hasn't cultivated his boxing skills. Joshua won't do that. I'm not a troll (way to old for that). I respect your opinion. Like you I just want to see the fight.

    • @nileking6295
      @nileking6295 3 года назад

      i agree that history wont be kind to wilder if he carries on fighting top guys but end of the day before fury beat wilder would you of been fully confident of any of the other hws would beat wilder? the answer is no wilder cant box but hes shown his power in the right hand is devasting and hes got a fighters heart he showed that in the first ortiz fight and the second fury fight

    • @coreyboachie
      @coreyboachie 3 года назад

      Kevin George I agree that wilder needs to face some seriously elite competition but you can’t just discredit everything he has achieved

    • @kevingeorge9727
      @kevingeorge9727 3 года назад +1

      @@coreyboachie I really wish I could agree with you mate. His handlers have kept him away from anyone credible upto the Fury fight, which they also tried to cherry pick. Only problem now is Wilder is painted into a corner. There are no more cherry picks left. This is why you don't hear him or anyone from his team pushing for the Fury fight or any fight for that matter. Further, I won't accept the lack of gate receipts as an excuse for not fighting. Joshua stands to lose the most financially as a result of reduced attendances and he still fought.

  • @kaykunz
    @kaykunz 3 года назад +6

    The passive AJ criticism, like the guy hasn't fought tougher competition than his peers.

  • @rocquet3580
    @rocquet3580 3 года назад +10

    I'm Surprised you used Holyfield as your standard bearer. As one of the biggest drugs cheats of his day, probably even more prolific than big baby Miller, he walked round at 12stone but had an anabolic induced fighting weight of 15stone. Holyfield's obsession with Tyson probably stemmed from knowing that he had a huge advantage over fighters who were clean. And, Big punchers nearly always used the stare down to get an edge over their opponents, Liston, Foreman & Tyson were all noted for their 'evil eye stare downs' but proved to be pretty ordinary when their punching power was nullified by the nimble elite boxer.......

  • @georgeevans1291
    @georgeevans1291 3 года назад +5

    I felt like hat man Leaned towards aj to beat fury in the past but now I think he gives fury the edge low-key

  • @undisputed1291
    @undisputed1291 3 года назад +7

    I don't think its about, living with some scary demons or ghosts!, its just about maturity, learning from your mistakes! Would it be o.k. if he fought exactly the same and lose again? Talking about psychology....what is the definition of madness??.....its to keep doing the same thing ,over and over, and expect a different outcome!!!! AJ has simply made Adjustments! And ye he will think about his defeat! But i didn't see a gunshy scaredy cat! I just saw a guy who's learned from his mistakes! So he's grown as a fighter and a person. I think people should give AJ more credit. If it had been stopped in the 3rd, this narrative wouldn't exist.🤔👍

    • @punchperfect9216
      @punchperfect9216 3 года назад +3

      Well said

    • @revival45
      @revival45 3 года назад +2

      Mate, it becoming ridiculous. This narrative of him being scared, yet his in there chucking shots and side stepping head splitting punches. Fear is always present, but it's what you do when you are afraid that defines you. AJ is in there fighting, to me that's the most anyone can do. All this psychological BS is good fot content on RUclips but it's nay to relevant to the actual boxers.

  • @OmarG123
    @OmarG123 3 года назад +14

    People believe the BS fury says , they think the louder the person is the more confident ,.... it’s not

    • @robwightman6357
      @robwightman6357 3 года назад

      Whose people? Its all about mind games if you know Fury said it himself in an old interview dont be underestimating the fact Fury is the best in the division at it that batman stunt on klitschko was fuckin genius

    • @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
      @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 3 года назад +1

      Facts.

  • @sp-files82
    @sp-files82 3 года назад +6

    This was one of the best hatman videos I watched 👊🏼

  • @tallshort1849
    @tallshort1849 3 года назад +6

    If Fury had beaten Pulev in 9 rounds everyone would be saying how great he was. AJ receives a level of criticism unmatched anywhere in the boxing world

    • @nuca5104
      @nuca5104 3 года назад +1

      I bet you watched Boxing Beats and Rhymes latest video... he did a brilliant one on how AJ's held to a different standard.

    • @tallshort1849
      @tallshort1849 3 года назад

      @@nuca5104 I did and he talks a lot of sense.

    • @tallshort1849
      @tallshort1849 3 года назад

      @Niki Mitchell how is Wilder one of the 2 best heavyweights?

    • @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
      @ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 3 года назад

      @@tallshort1849 I second this question....

  • @olutosinogunkolade5519
    @olutosinogunkolade5519 3 года назад +5

    A person's demeanor is not always the yardstick for determining who is more mentally strong or weak. Being braggadocios and staring people in the eyes does not equate to mental toughness either! AJ used the Pulev fight to not only knock out Pulev, but also display and practice new found skills and abilities he's been practicing in the gym. We all know he could have dispatched Pulev earlier but he chose not to, this was to give fans more value for their money, and to demonstrate certain abilities which was a signal to Fury.
    With some people, AJ can never do anything right.
    If Fury did what AJ did to Pulev, you and many others who are impressed with him would be singing his praises. If Mayweather fought the way AJ did an opponent the world would be singing his praises.
    AJ brings out something new & all you can see is weakness.
    I'm sorry, you're a Fury fan boy!

  • @martingibbons7070
    @martingibbons7070 3 года назад +7

    When ever Joshua fights Fury it is onbly going to end one way and that is Fury Battered Bruised KOd and exposed as a big but very mediocre boxer

  • @sanki4586
    @sanki4586 3 года назад +7

    I always like to watch your videos, but lately you choose wrong theme, which you also interpret very badly. What does tyson fury mean: - the guy has not yet defended his belt. - the guy had problems with dropping. He has a bad resume. Think before you critique Antony Joshua like that.

  • @5070RAA
    @5070RAA 3 года назад +11

    I still think Tyson is overrated. Look at his record. It's like thinking that a team with .500 with a good attitude will win the NBA or NHL championships. I tend to look more at level of opponents.

    • @jonotter551
      @jonotter551 3 года назад +10

      @Hector Haze If you think Fury has a better resume than Joshua than you need to give your head a wobble, There is no comparision, Fury has 0 title defenses, Joshua has 9. Top 10 fighters they have both beaten Fury 2 / Joshua 7.

    • @Kingofalania
      @Kingofalania 3 года назад +1

      @@jonotter551 top 10 is subjective just because the ring magazine rates someone as top 10 does not mean they are

    • @realwest733
      @realwest733 3 года назад

      Agree 10000000%

    • @5070RAA
      @5070RAA 3 года назад

      @Hector Haze I'm not sure how you get second best resume for Joshua. In other sports, teams with other records are considered superior. Joshua has fought more top ten heavyweight opponents than Fury. Joshua fought Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte, Ruiz Jr., Klitzscho, Breazeale, Martin, & Molina. All Fury fought was Klitzschko, Wilder, and Chisora. If boxing fans neglect boxers' records, no wonder it isn't a mainstream sport.

    • @trevhib
      @trevhib 3 года назад

      @@Kingofalania Boxrec top 10 holds value and is not subjective as their points based rankings are generated using an algorithm.

  • @DEEDUBZ
    @DEEDUBZ 3 года назад +4

    Intelligence is the enemy of oppression, as intelligence leads to freedom

  • @TextbookBoxingGB
    @TextbookBoxingGB 3 года назад +6

    “The requisite mental constitution”
    Damn Hatman has been reading the dictionary in lockdown
    All love man

    • @Pai-May
      @Pai-May 3 года назад +1

      Textbook Boxing - Whether you agree with his views or not his vocabulary is impeccable.........

  • @sportsfan1455
    @sportsfan1455 3 года назад +2

    Agree with a lot of points here regarding fighter psychology. However, there so many variables that we don't know that makes it hard to make a firm diagnosis on AJ. One thing that I haven't seen considered by many because the memories of the Ruiz fight is so vivid is that AJ is implementing a new style and employing a new style confidently is very hard to do. To me, I don't see total confidence in his new style more than I see him scared of taking shots. I saw him take shots against Ruiz and Pulev and start talking smack and slap his chest. I think there's been a SLIGHT exaggeration in his mental fragility.

  • @topentine
    @topentine 3 года назад +6

    You and your confidence measures. Only you understands your standards in determining levels of confidence.

  • @ironcurtainboxing
    @ironcurtainboxing 3 года назад +3

    Mike was done at 30 years old as an elite Heavyweight- his style was made for a very atheltic man in his teens & 20s. Even if he lived clean and never went to jail- he was done at 30 years old. I would have advised him your career is not 1985-2005 but 1985-1995 get to to 50-0 & retire.

  • @B3MadeIt
    @B3MadeIt 3 года назад +3

    Tyson Fury- I'm an unpredictable crazy man, AJ- 'compose yourself', I'm the champ, Fury will beat anyone at mind games, hands down.

  • @fromsofiafromsofia
    @fromsofiafromsofia 3 года назад +3

    Wow Hatman! It`s good to have intelligent analyzers in boxing! That video was
    revealing and fun!

  • @alexandrailubs2945
    @alexandrailubs2945 3 года назад +7

    Hatman take a break and have some sleep. You going mad. AJs brand is not based on trash talk. Andy Ruiz beat AJ but before the fight he showed AJ so much respect like he was a fan. But did prevent him from stopping AJ. Bro skills pays the bills. Tyson only wins because of his ability period.

  • @theredtelephone6937
    @theredtelephone6937 3 года назад +4

    18:00 Aint that the truth. Edward Bernays belonged to a certain group that are highly sophisticated at this sort of mental & societal subversion.

  • @fahadalhathal7496
    @fahadalhathal7496 3 года назад +3

    Hatman I hope you can make another video about Aj vs Fury fight from a technical points of view. I would think AJ has more ability than Fury and I don’t think Fury can impose himself against AJ the way he did against Wilder.. I just feel AJ would knock out Fury.

  • @Darius57931
    @Darius57931 3 года назад +3

    One of the best videos you've ever made hatman.

  • @evoste
    @evoste 3 года назад +4

    Nice work Hatman, this year has been a real wake up regarding the media.

    • @BrainDamageComedy
      @BrainDamageComedy 3 года назад

      totally - they were insufferable b4. now at a whole new level. mouthpieces of criminals. corrupt to the core.

    • @evoste
      @evoste 3 года назад +1

      @@BrainDamageComedy Wow, just gave you a lengthy reply, with a breakdown of the media, and yt deleted it immediately...
      'In an age of deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act'

    • @evoste
      @evoste 3 года назад

      @@BrainDamageComedy keep getting comments deleted.

    • @BrainDamageComedy
      @BrainDamageComedy 3 года назад

      @@evoste they are sneaky like that. shadow banning and all sorts. people getting channels shut down and unsub'd etc. terrible situation. hypocrites everywhere.

  • @segunjohnsonafilaka2511
    @segunjohnsonafilaka2511 3 года назад +3

    Just finished watching counter boxing. I'm not a fan of AJ, neither I'm a fan of Tyson Fury. Meanwhile, Tyson Fury has a better Boxing IQ and his Mental capacity is phenomenal.
    Tyson Fury can mentally defeat any boxer.
    He has the natural instincts. That's why he's more congruent in the field of boxing. It's not about your muscles. Everything starts from the mental capacity.
    We have to take emotions out of this and face reality. Tyson Fury is a better boxer hands down.

  • @lukemyers3310
    @lukemyers3310 3 года назад +7

    My opinion that means nothing btw is still that fury has beat nobody apart from klitcho. And yeah he won that fight but how boring was it, it was a mental war that he won there. Then there's wilder but I mean come on who's wilder beat. Ortiz, stervirne.. . We all know wilder was a paper champion..So apart from that fury has really been in with nobody and looked shaky at times in some of these fights most recently Otto wallin. So yeah I think fury is obviously a skilled boxer but I still can't get my head round this he's levels above the rest and he'll wipe the floor with AJ. I'm not even going to get into AJs record he's opponents and his 9 or so title defences...

    • @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube
      @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube 3 года назад

      A.J. has fought the better fighters. But that's because there are very few quality fighters in the current division. In fact, top to bottom, the HW division is still the worst it's ever been -- although it's getting better inch by inch. In short, you can't blame people for not beating great fighters when there are no great fighters to beat. Cheers.

  • @testcch6629
    @testcch6629 3 года назад +4

    I think we are reading too deep into this. Fury will try to get into AJ head (which he's already started since last year) but i think AJ will be fine because nothing will motivate AJ more than the thought of being the undisputed no 1. If Fury beats AJ it will be on boxing ability alone! i don't think AJ will be rattled mentally

  • @johnchukwu1844
    @johnchukwu1844 3 года назад +11

    Fury was confident, but refused to take the rematch. AJ was not confident, but he begged for the rematch even though he won. Hatman is stupid. I swear. 😂 😂 😂

  • @sprogg11
    @sprogg11 3 года назад +3

    Furys coordination improved faster and more dramatically than iv seen from any other fighter. Not just his feet.

    • @JOBXR
      @JOBXR 3 года назад +1

      What do you mean by coordination? Like his jab? What’s his improvement? Not fucking around I am curious I haven’t seen his earlier fights

    • @sprogg11
      @sprogg11 3 года назад +1

      @@JOBXRbasically I don't remember seeing him move that well in general for his size early on. I think he had to grow into his body a bit and develop a style to match his size and ability. But it's like he did that perfectly and suddenly he was ultra slick with his timing, his jab and controling the range.ect. Which all take alot of coordination I didn't think he even had.

  • @br5930
    @br5930 3 года назад +4

    Anyone else waiting on the Callum Smith Canelo review

  • @sholaebofin6090
    @sholaebofin6090 3 года назад +6

    Edward bernays propaganda is a very powerful tool for understanding the human condition today

    • @seanbarker9272
      @seanbarker9272 3 года назад

      Celebrity endorsements for everything

  • @adamjpd
    @adamjpd 3 года назад +4

    Sometimes AJ gives clues away with his eyes. We won't know unless he tells but to me it sometimes looks like he is not 100% confident in his own ability. Almost like he doesn't even realize how good he actually is or what he's actually capable of.

    • @johnchukwu1844
      @johnchukwu1844 3 года назад

      😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. You have seen AJ's eyes yeah? A lot of you are actually stupid.

    • @adamjpd
      @adamjpd 3 года назад +1

      @@johnchukwu1844 I mean his expression. Have you heard of psychology before?

    • @johnchukwu1844
      @johnchukwu1844 3 года назад +1

      @@adamjpd you look at a man's expression and you can tell what he is thinking? You are a fool if you don't know that facial expressions can mean more than one thing. And you talk about psychology. Not smart.

    • @johnchukwu1844
      @johnchukwu1844 3 года назад +2

      Let me tell you another reason why your facial expression theory is stupid. Fury's face was game, but he refused to take the rematch against Klitschko. AJ's face wasn't game, but he wanted the rematch with Klitschko. The mind is not on the face.

    • @adamjpd
      @adamjpd 3 года назад

      @@johnchukwu1844 You're a dick. 😂😂😂

  • @olwasegunabisogun5449
    @olwasegunabisogun5449 3 года назад +3

    Hatman, boxer's are different from each other just like ordinary people. However, let's get to look at resuming , when belt was worn & how many defences. Man AJ is way well above Fury

  • @johnchukwu1844
    @johnchukwu1844 3 года назад +9

    You think that a man who talks trash is more confident than the one who takes the tough fights. You are not intelligent.

  • @funnyfrench1111
    @funnyfrench1111 3 года назад +3

    Tyson Fury normally recovers quickly when he gets knocked down.

  • @kamal-hg5jg
    @kamal-hg5jg 3 года назад +2

    Respect in the game goes a long way

  • @aaro227
    @aaro227 3 года назад +3

    Great stuff! Great content once again, Hatman.

  • @DirtyJamesUK
    @DirtyJamesUK 3 года назад +2

    I actually think it's a good thing Joshua is showing some hesitation/ psychological damage.
    He was always going to after getting beat up by Ruiz, especially taking the immediate rematch.
    Instead of this psych damage making him lose, he won both the rematch and the Pulev fight.
    I think psych damage was inevitable (unless he was a deluded person which brings massive problems of it's own) for his subsequent 2 or 3 fights but after that he could well evolve into a much stronger fighter because of it.

  • @danyellcharles
    @danyellcharles 3 года назад +2

    This is why I disagree with hatman sometimes. He said he thought AJ wasn’t as confident against Wlad as Fury was. What kind of comparison is that? Why does that matter? As long as a fighter gets the job done why does it matter which one had more confidence? Did AJ have enough confidence to get the job done? Yes! These comparisons are irrelevant.

    • @DirtyJamesUK
      @DirtyJamesUK 2 года назад +1

      The comparisons are interesting. And I'm not sure they're irrelevant.
      AJ was like a swimmer new to the deep end, who almost drowned but conquered it in the end.
      Fury was like a more confident swimmer who dared to play games in the deep end and somehow never came close to drowning.
      He taunted the water, and the water dared not try anything.

  • @scottcasson9969
    @scottcasson9969 3 года назад +2

    But is this the same kind of stuff ppl were saying about fury’s performances b4 wilders fights ?

  • @Daveaaaaa
    @Daveaaaaa 3 года назад +2

    Thanks! I've just ordered this book on Kindle. Something to read over Xmas.

  • @bigbobabc123
    @bigbobabc123 3 года назад +3

    I disagree. The average person is so unathletic that even if they had the best mind, they’d suck at boxing. I think once you have a level of base athleticism, mental attributes are what make decent boxers great.

  • @Chris_Andre_Boxing
    @Chris_Andre_Boxing 3 года назад +3

    How does this video have 40 thumbs down? Quality video

  • @MeMe-zk4xn
    @MeMe-zk4xn 3 года назад +4

    The comment about his struggles with John McDermott reminds me of just how awfully poor Fury’s resume is.

    • @soleknight3212
      @soleknight3212 3 года назад

      Two Chisora fights, McDermott was a tough fight at that stage, Klitschko away from home and two Wilder fights (both wins in my book). His resume is not as good as AJ's, but it's still pretty fair at this point.

    • @easy-jay
      @easy-jay 3 года назад +1

      I like how you admit that fury resume ain't a good as Joshua we ain't arguing whose better just whose got the better resume which is clear who that is

  • @jaywonder7099
    @jaywonder7099 3 года назад +3

    The title was boxing psychology: AJ vs Fury but yet again it’s the same old thing from all the boxing people doing videos maximum criticism towards AJ none towards anyone else. AJ shows weaknesses agreed but why is that? Because he’s fighting better competition so he will be hurt he will be down but he’s still fights better opposition. I’m fan of boxing only but come on fury in he’s last 6 fights 4 where complete nobody’s know one talks about that what about the psychology of fighter choosing to fight the lowest risk fights to get maximum praise. Again I’m a fan of boxing not just the boxers but come on this passive aggressive AJ bashing is getting boring there are other boxers other than fury and AJ

  • @og15z
    @og15z 3 года назад +4

    Hatman isn't a gullible zombie. Good stuff

    • @BrainDamageComedy
      @BrainDamageComedy 3 года назад

      hatman doing his bit. good man. we all got to get out from under this situation.

  • @hype2beast119
    @hype2beast119 3 года назад +13

    Tyson fury has the strongest mentality in boxing.

    • @Arman...
      @Arman... 3 года назад

      Canelo?

    • @ts7673
      @ts7673 3 года назад

      Until he gets knocked out yh, wilder and AJ were also very strong mentally before losing

    • @revival45
      @revival45 3 года назад +7

      That's why he couldn't handle being champ.

    • @ts7673
      @ts7673 3 года назад

      @Carguy 1 lol true

    • @hype2beast119
      @hype2beast119 3 года назад +2

      @Carguy 1 true he went through depression but he got up.
      It’s not just about when you fall is about how you get back up. And Tyson fury has shown multiple times that he has a warrior mentality.

  • @christopherhanson9578
    @christopherhanson9578 3 года назад +1

    That Aj fight was the best fight he has ever had technically speaking, it is what it is

  • @sachagrant2788
    @sachagrant2788 3 года назад

    Really interesting listen, the boxing psychology videos you’ve put up over the years are always a personal favorite

  • @alvshill
    @alvshill 3 года назад +9

    Hatman is just proving once again he doesn’t know the meaning of objectivity, and by extension subjectivity. ‘Facts’ in a boxing match relate to those things which are beyond dispute. If a boxer is hit, falls flat, and is counted out, that he/she was ‘knocked out’ becomes a matter of ‘fact’. You can therefore then say, objectively, that the boxer was knocked out. On the other hand, anyone’s judgement of a boxer’s performance has to be based on an interpretation, i.e. an opinion, and can be affected by bias and assumption..often unconsciously so, and this falls into the realm of the subjective. By literal definition, there is nothing objective about an ‘opinion’ of any boxer’s performance. Any claim to the contrary is to clearly misunderstand the very basic difference between subjectivity and objectivity. For Hatman to claim that because Teddy Atlas and some other’s share his opinion as to though validate his own opinion as an objective one, is to further demonstrate a misunderstanding of objectivity vs subjectivity. Teddy Atlas is well qualified to give his opinion of any boxing performance, but that doesn’t make his analysis any any less subjective.

    • @ozhoneybadger
      @ozhoneybadger 3 года назад

      You need to calm down

    • @drnirmalraj2456
      @drnirmalraj2456 3 года назад +3

      Why are you so butt hurt that 2 boxing ppl think fury is ahead of aj mentally...??? By the way, fury didn't need a great resume to beat klitschko, ruiz jr didn't need to have a great resume to beat aj either.. So when comparing aj vs fury, aj doesn't necessarily have an edge against fury just based on his resume.. Resume doesn't help AJ one bit when he's standing across the ring facing tyson fury.

    • @ozhoneybadger
      @ozhoneybadger 3 года назад +1

      @@drnirmalraj2456 Yes fury crushes AJ

    • @alvshill
      @alvshill 3 года назад +3

      @@ozhoneybadger Fury may well crush AJ when they hopefully fight, but it doesn’t alter the principle of my comment.

    • @alvshill
      @alvshill 3 года назад +3

      @@drnirmalraj2456 .. you’ve made the presumption that I have some kind of issue with Hatman’s opinion of AJ. I really don’t. The only point I wanted to make, since he talks about the psychology a lot, is that his judgement of AJ’s performance (or any other boxer) will essentially be subjective, not objective.

  • @Beans360
    @Beans360 3 года назад +9

    Fury will beat AJ even before they get in the ring.

  • @johnhendricks8140
    @johnhendricks8140 3 года назад +1

    Tyson had to be more confident because people didnt feel should even get to fight Klitcko adding in his fighting style and his height reach advantage. I had a friend that said Aj didnt have killer instincts with Pulev, i felt Aj was being careful, the Ruiz loss might be the cause. Your right the the people who say and dont fall for propaganda be the same that spew someone else's propaganda.

  • @mrkwxbenn
    @mrkwxbenn 3 года назад +1

    The robbery of the year goes to the Rolando Romero 12 round decision theft against Jackson Marinez.
    The mismatch of the year goes to Siniesa Estrada knockout of Miranda Adkins in just seven seconds.
    The trainer of the year goes to Eddy Reynoso, for the constant improvement of his main boxer Canelo Alvarez.
    The upset of the year goes to Jessica McCaskill’s victory over the first lady of boxing Cecilia Braekhus.
    The knockout of the year award goes to the WBA - IBF light welter title fight of Josh Taylor’s first-round knockout to Apinun Khongsong, the left to the liver was accurate, and Apinum´s agony was beautiful to watch
    also to consider to Aleksandr Povetkin knockout of Dillian Whyte and Gervonta Davis knockout of Leo Santa Cruz.
    The female fighter of the year goes to Jessica McCaskill. Caskilla moved from 140 to 147 to dethrone Braekhus by Majority Decision.
    The fighter of the year goes to Teofimo Lopez. The young, hungry lion beat the matrix Vasyl Lomachenko to become the undisputed lightweight champion
    The fight of the year goes to the WBC 140 eliminatory of Jose Zepeda vs. Ivan Baranchyk’s five-round battle.
    When can we vote for your 2020 boxing awards.

  • @akvgfvc6679
    @akvgfvc6679 3 года назад +4

    Hi Hatman, really loved this. You should do more on mindset and physiologically👌

  • @mentalfight
    @mentalfight 3 года назад +1

    I got to say Thank you Hatman. For all the things you share, for your so smart analysises which go beyond the bounds of sport

  • @paulirabormusical
    @paulirabormusical 3 года назад +3

    Let the fight be made so we can stop all these back and forth arguments on who is better between the two. I'm tired

    • @spartans7748
      @spartans7748 3 года назад

      Me too, am tired 😭😭. Want AJ to win tho

    • @paulirabormusical
      @paulirabormusical 3 года назад

      @@spartans7748 I know. If I said I wanted A.J to win, Hatman would call me a fan boy, but all I know is that the best man takes the win on that day....

  • @danyellcharles
    @danyellcharles 3 года назад +4

    This stare down was worthless after the bell rings. Holyfield whupped Tyson like he was his daddy. Twice!!!! Staring guys down and bullying only works on some guys.

    • @boshirahmed
      @boshirahmed 3 года назад +1

      Yes, however it costs nothing also, so it is worth doing. At the end of the day there will always be other fighters who are stronger and better skilled. You cannot win every fight.

    • @DirtyJamesUK
      @DirtyJamesUK 2 года назад +1

      Works on most. Mike was very intimidating. But Evander is something else, and was clearly obsessed rather than afraid.

  • @boxingmediatv7553
    @boxingmediatv7553 3 года назад +4

    More psychology videos please Hatman🙏🏼

  • @EliasVergsen
    @EliasVergsen 3 года назад +2

    I think in the actual ring Fury is so much more mentally strong and secure with himself. It's where he is most confident and most himself. Out of the ring AJ is stronger and Fury is more fragile. AJ has the life he wants, he has a good relationship with his kids/friends and he knows what he wants in the future.
    I'm no fanboy of either but it's a genuine 50/50 fight. Fury should win on paper but who knows

    • @TEEK466
      @TEEK466 3 года назад +3

      On paper??based on his fights with McDermott,Sefer seferi,Otto wallin,Cunningham,pjakic,Tom Schwartz based on what paper exactly ??on fighting 2 two top guy in his career

    • @EliasVergsen
      @EliasVergsen 3 года назад

      @@TEEK466 Based on the fact he's beaten two top top long reigning HWs away from home when most people said he'd lose to both. Wlad who couldn't land a glove on him and Wilder who he walked down. Fury's style is wrong for AJ. He can go 12 rounds, he recovers fast, AJ often gasses, AJ gets too excited when he lands a good punch.
      AJ may have the better overall resume but on paper Fury has fought at the highest level twice and won both times. AJ has not. He's just beaten a lot of very good level HWs.

    • @TEEK466
      @TEEK466 3 года назад

      Elias Vergessen fair point..but wilder ain’t no top guy..he’s an average champion(who’s just beat luiz Ortiz)...I would have respected fury more if he gave klitschko he’s rematch like he ran twice..Fury try to preserve his body thats why I think fighting wilder next and then fighting Joshua won’t work well for him hence why he loves fighting bum in between big fights.fury will be beaten so easily by Joshua,summat like what we saw few weeks with Joyce and dubios...

  • @danielomeara6317
    @danielomeara6317 3 года назад +2

    Great analysis. Bang on with what you’re saying

  • @olutosinogunkolade5519
    @olutosinogunkolade5519 3 года назад +3

    Of all the videos you've put up this is the one I disagree with the most. Humility is a battle tactic! AJ has has that and you don't seem to understand that.

  • @LDN_KMT
    @LDN_KMT 3 года назад +6

    another hatman specia to chill back too people don't understand boxing is 80% psychology

    • @DragonX-dl6yo
      @DragonX-dl6yo 3 года назад +1

      @@southernrealist5789 its not going to happen in EVERY single fight is it. Of course boxing is mostly about the mind. You obviously have no idea how to comprehend that.

    • @bombercountyblues
      @bombercountyblues 3 года назад +1

      I'd say probably 50/50 mental and physical. If it was that much on the psychological side, the middleweight champion would be derren brown.

  • @bombercountyblues
    @bombercountyblues 3 года назад +4

    I like these longer, more in depth vids hm.

  • @8kellymac
    @8kellymac 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant intermission. Genius move. Well done.

  • @sulaymanabumalik6937
    @sulaymanabumalik6937 3 года назад +6

    teddy works for espn, enough said, does aj has the fact the he got the ko loss to ruiz in the back of his head? off course, it would be stupid not to, but i got a question hatman and it would be interesting to hear you on that, if fury is so strong mentally why he seems to be impossible for him to have big fights back to back?

    • @TEEK466
      @TEEK466 3 года назад +3

      SPOT ON BRO...THESE GUYS WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.........THE SAME PEOPLE DIDNT WANT HIM TO TAKE THE ANDY RUIZ REMATCH....TYSON FURY WAS SO STRONG THAT HE BROKE DOWN MENTALLY AFTER THE KLITSHKO WIN SMFH

    • @sulaymanabumalik6937
      @sulaymanabumalik6937 3 года назад +3

      @@TEEK466 hey personnaly im picking fury, but it wont be easy, i prefer aj as a person, i used to prefer fury but all the flip floping got me tired of him, so i support aj but my money is on tyson, but i agree hatman said aj shouldnt take the rematch but after aj won he blame ruiz for not takin the fight seriously enough, i dont buy that, ruiz already had slow feet, he wasnt gonna change into suga ray leonard in one camp

    • @sukhvirmohem5390
      @sukhvirmohem5390 3 года назад +1

      @@sulaymanabumalik6937 agreed

  • @Johndoe3786.
    @Johndoe3786. 3 года назад +1

    Another intriguing look at boxing psychology 👍🏻

  • @Sharturse
    @Sharturse 3 года назад +2

    There's more than one way to show confidence and domination. Look at Khabib vs McGregor. Domination by McGregor outside the ring. Domination by Khabib inside the ring.

  • @edaniel8003
    @edaniel8003 3 года назад +3

    Arbitrary statements. Im not a body language expert but alot of the perceived body signals are just a matter of how you interpret and are extremely overhyped.

  • @blaccpanther8715
    @blaccpanther8715 3 года назад +1

    Fair enough hatman, you're probably right but I think what you are saying is a lot more nuanced than you gave credit, which is to say, I dont think it was entirely that obvious that AJ was lacking his usual confidence , I watched this with casuals and they even thought AJ was even carrying Pulev, see cos he seemed more relaxed than tense as he was talking to Pulev while fighting, casually punching Pulev after the bell, pointing at him after the bell, sticking his tongue out, tripling up the uppercut and so on. Having said that, you and Teddy Atlas may very well be correct.

  • @whoisredz-4876
    @whoisredz-4876 3 года назад +3

    AJ SAVES BOXING THE REAL LANDLORD

    • @whoisredz-4876
      @whoisredz-4876 3 года назад

      NEW IFL INTERVIEW

    • @michaeljay6468
      @michaeljay6468 3 года назад

      Trust me you will all miss thid era of boxing when Tyson Fury retires. AJ's reign will be another boring Vladimir reign that isn't saving boxing. Heck even Wilder who nobody can stand is even more interesting then AJ.

  • @CultureBoxing
    @CultureBoxing 3 года назад +1

    The respect AJ gave to Klitscko, Klitscko Gave back after round 5 when he knocked AJ down

  • @Theemptythroneistaken
    @Theemptythroneistaken 3 года назад +1

    But Teddy atlas also dismissed a lot of what AJ did in the fight hatman he also dismissed pulev as an elite operator when we know pulev has skills to say to the contrary.

  • @qaidikramuddin
    @qaidikramuddin 3 года назад +1

    Don’t forget that Fury had been boxing for a long time. Comparing his confidence to that of Fury against Wlad isn’t fair. Fury was raised up in boxing.

  • @jeffrejr1
    @jeffrejr1 3 года назад +3

    I've seen all of Furys so called mind games(acting like a loon). It wasn't mind games that beat wilder it's was his-inability to box.

  • @nonstopboxing4874
    @nonstopboxing4874 3 года назад +3

    Were u been bro thought you'd of done a canelo Smith video or fury or something by now 🤔 your not sick are ya bro we all hope not

  • @robwightman6357
    @robwightman6357 3 года назад +2

    Ever since furys batman stunt on klitschko I knew he was a mind games master great video and imo fury is a level or two above the rest

    • @asliraja7211
      @asliraja7211 3 года назад +1

      First time i seen tyson and haye press conference where he stands on the chair looking down at david haye.
      That was the moment i knew lol

  • @tupacshakur9847
    @tupacshakur9847 3 года назад +1

    Has boxing beats and Ryms been terminated??

  • @asliraja7211
    @asliraja7211 3 года назад

    First time i seen tyson and haye press conference where he stands on the chair looking down at david haye.
    That was the moment i knew tyson is levels above the rest mentally.
    And STILLLLLL

  • @blaccpanther8715
    @blaccpanther8715 3 года назад +1

    Regarding confidence, I believe that beyond a certain threshold, confidence is overrated and at worst can even become pathological. To illustrate this, look no further than the Wilder. You just have to imagine that Deontay Wilder is a more confident actor than Anthony Joshua, yet in this case, the more confident fighter is not the more self evidently mentally strong.

    • @blaccpanther8715
      @blaccpanther8715 3 года назад

      @@ironfist768 Yes, thats it, over estimating your ability. Sometimes confidence will take you away from reality.