Why Rollercoaster Tycoon Died

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  • Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
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    Rollercoaster Tycoon was once the king of tycoon management games, but it was milked to oblivion by corporate greed.
    This video tells the story of Rollercoaster Tycoon, its quick rise to fame, and its eventual demise with the terrible release of Rollercoaster Tycoon World. Chris Sawyer, the original developer of Rollercoaster Tycoon relinquished control to Atari and from that point on, it all went downhill.
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  • @robokast
    @robokast  Месяц назад +12

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    • @bmeht
      @bmeht Месяц назад

      what a loser

    • @OrgaNik_Music
      @OrgaNik_Music Месяц назад +10

      no

    • @dwarf365
      @dwarf365 Месяц назад +6

      sponsor block set.

    • @teknixstuff
      @teknixstuff Месяц назад +4

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    • @keisven1
      @keisven1 3 дня назад

      If you are going to promote other games when you are suppose to talk about RCT then this video is nothing more than clickbait.

  • @KonaSuba
    @KonaSuba Месяц назад +413

    OpenRCT2 is all we need

    • @MaxMustermann-dl4pd
      @MaxMustermann-dl4pd 21 день назад +14

      I recentlly started with OpenRCT2 for the first time and it's the best Roller Coaster Tycoon experience you can get.

    • @Renewable_Noob
      @Renewable_Noob 15 дней назад +2

      That's basically what the 1+2 version on steam is.

    • @Antphoneigh
      @Antphoneigh 14 дней назад +1

      this works on my MacBook Pro M2, so fun!

    • @rabbitt7516
      @rabbitt7516 12 дней назад

      i always get intimidated by rollercoaster tycoon 1 and 2, i always stick with 3, is openrct2 beginner friendly?

    • @MaxMustermann-dl4pd
      @MaxMustermann-dl4pd 12 дней назад +5

      @@rabbitt7516 depends on what you were missing in the original games. OpenRCT2 mostly got QoL improvements and improvements for running on modern systems with high resolutions

  • @Che1ito
    @Che1ito Месяц назад +142

    You could move around guests in RCT3, you just couldn't kill them anymore.
    Also, the reason why guests drowned in RCT and RCT2 was because Chris Sawyer didn't want to have to make an animation for the guests to swim.

    • @JackMacLupus
      @JackMacLupus 9 дней назад +7

      Heh, interesting to know. XD
      But actually, where is the difference in making a "drowing" animation and making a "swimming" animation? XD

    • @octaviomarchi
      @octaviomarchi 9 дней назад +10

      @@JackMacLupus I would say it's the fact that for the swimming strategy, you need to move, meaning to calculate where to swim, while drowning is just one more animation and removing the character

    • @shteebo
      @shteebo 6 дней назад +1

      @@JackMacLupus A "treading water" animation would be no more work than a "drowning" animation. He likely decided that drag/drop "guest removal" was a useful function.

    • @ethantaylor5527
      @ethantaylor5527 2 дня назад +3

      I remember I would often “trap” the inspector in a pit I made in RCT3 to avoid him causing any problems in my parks 😂

  • @hatnis
    @hatnis Месяц назад +236

    To make sawyers rollercoaster tycoon even more impressive, he wrote pretty much the entire thing in 32-bit assembly.. now THATS impressive, id guess not even 1% of programmers can write a simple program in assembly but this guy made a whole game by himself as a hobby project in assembly..

    • @hellowill
      @hellowill Месяц назад +4

      it was normal back then, wasn't Pokemon built in assembly?

    • @AlryFireBlade
      @AlryFireBlade Месяц назад +31

      @@hellowill even when... Pokemon had an entire team and Nintendo behind it. RCT was 1 person only.

    • @teknixstuff
      @teknixstuff Месяц назад

      @@hellowill This was a good while after that. 1999 had Windows 98 and 2000, XP coming soon, C++ being used for most stuff, .NET framework on the verge of existence, javascript and internet explorer everywhere, etc.

    • @WutendPLayZ
      @WutendPLayZ Месяц назад +9

      @@hellowilli mean look at gen 1, the thing has more bugs than timon and pumba's diet. just shows how remarkable it is to code in assembly

    • @downloadableram2666
      @downloadableram2666 Месяц назад +21

      By 1999? No, making games in assembly was not normal, especially on PC. On consoles, assembly remained relevant for a while but the N64 devkit could work with C as well. Likely for performance reasons. For example, DOOM was made in ANSI C and came out in 1993.

  • @Duvelthehobbit
    @Duvelthehobbit Месяц назад +125

    It's a shame you didn't mention OpenRCT2 nor Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic. Both are basically RCT2 with OpenRCT2 adding more rides, cheats, fixing some bugs and adding multiplayer, and Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic porting RCT2 to mobile and tablet devices and later the PC. I would definitely say that RCT as a franchise hasn't died but is being caried by these two games.

    • @hellyesitsjoe
      @hellyesitsjoe Месяц назад +3

      YES YES YES, you understand (:

    • @unocualqu1era
      @unocualqu1era 29 дней назад +4

      Yeah but OpenRCT2 is a fan project isn't it? RCT Classic (or even OpenRCT2 for that matter) aren't nearly as famous as the originals, Atari blew it on terrible projects

    • @Duvelthehobbit
      @Duvelthehobbit 28 дней назад +11

      @@unocualqu1era OpenRCT2 is indeed a fan project. While it might be less famous than the originals, I think the community is large enough that it should be mentioned in a video about the game, and why it died. RCT Classic is also an official release, and probably larger in users than a lot of the spin-offs mentioned in the video. It seems really weird to leave these out of the conversation. Especially since the scene starting at 2.57 is using OpenRCT2.

    • @scaryhobbit211
      @scaryhobbit211 7 дней назад

      @@Duvelthehobbit He also blatantly ignored the community for RCT3, while going as far as trashing the game without even mentioning the Soaked and Wild expansion packs.
      Like with RCT2, RCT3's modding community completely transformed that game and what was possible to build.

  • @aquilaFUN
    @aquilaFUN Месяц назад +138

    They lost their vision and milked the franchise dry.
    At this point just play Planet Coaster, or if you're into the isometric perspective, Parkitect. Wonderful game that still capture that early RTC spirit.

    • @ct578
      @ct578 Месяц назад +3

      PlanCo 2 will be announced soon (please Frontier)

    • @donaldpetersen2382
      @donaldpetersen2382 Месяц назад +3

      Parkitect

    • @hellyesitsjoe
      @hellyesitsjoe Месяц назад +9

      Open RCT is fucking awesome, check it out!

    • @michaelmonstar4276
      @michaelmonstar4276 13 дней назад +1

      Nothing has been "milked", in my view... That's not what you can apply to this franchise. There haven't been that many games and three of them were big hits. - What else is there?... That "World" one?... Who cares?... It's hardly "milking" it. - They actually didn't do ENOUGH with it, both in terms of releasing anything or at least in terms of quality.

    • @sebasllaura7254
      @sebasllaura7254 9 дней назад

      And, if you want to play a game that's like RCT World but better, look no further than Park Beyond. It's arguably superior to RCT World thanks to the impossification feature.

  • @pfm57
    @pfm57 Месяц назад +33

    Bullfrog's 1994 Theme Park should have featured in the intro for historical context as well as Sawyer's first game Transport Tycoon.

    • @FieryKitsune1
      @FieryKitsune1 29 дней назад +2

      I still love Transport Tycoon to this day. I played the crap out of it as a kid and it still holds up.

    • @Mambaru
      @Mambaru 29 дней назад

      Came here to say the same thing. RCT just built upon the foundations layed by TP. IIRC, TT was the result of trying to make RCT originally. Or the other way around.

    • @andywolan
      @andywolan 10 дней назад

      Totally agree. Some elements of that game are found in RCT, such as the alert that of "visits think your prices are cheap, perhaps you should raise prices".

    • @andywolan
      @andywolan 10 дней назад

      @@Mambaru TT/TTD came first, then RCT. There was a sequel to TT, but I honestly prefer OpenTTD.

  • @Caspianm2
    @Caspianm2 Месяц назад +139

    Every single "video game history" video ends up coming down to corporate greed and poor treatment of game developers/artists...
    Makes you think about our priorities as a society.

    • @stefberg-kk1jl
      @stefberg-kk1jl Месяц назад +12

      greed ,
      greed never changes

    • @hellowill
      @hellowill Месяц назад +6

      well they aren't exactly getting away with it.
      their game and profits are a complete failure.
      Frontier Planet Coaster is the complete opposite story.

    • @hellowill
      @hellowill Месяц назад +3

      Also it's on developers and artists to push back. I'm a developer myself, and we are definitely part of the problem.

    • @OrgaNik_Music
      @OrgaNik_Music Месяц назад +1

      @@hellowill what do you think the publishers are gonna do if the devs and artists try to push back

    • @leesasuki
      @leesasuki Месяц назад

      ​@@hellowill I mean, if pushing back mean getting hate by my dev teammate, PO, PM, designers, I would definitely shut up once they don't see the obvious problem

  • @firestarter1888
    @firestarter1888 Месяц назад +13

    It didnt die. There is a core community dedicated to open rct2.

  • @scaryhobbit211
    @scaryhobbit211 7 дней назад +5

    To claim that RCT3 is "uninteresting and bland" and that it was a failure is a massive oversimplification that stems from ignorance, especially when you leave out the following factors:
    1)It was the first game to bring the management side of the coaster genre to 3D in a somewhat realistic style. (1999's Theme Park World/Sim Theme Park did it earlier, but that game had a more cartoon style.)
    2)Frontier released two expansion packs to RCT3, Soaked and Wild, that massively expanded the game by adding functional waterparks and zoos to the coaster mix. This had never been done before, and until the announcement of Planet Coaster 2 just this past week it hasn't been attempted since.
    3)During the franchise's hiatus, RCT3 (And also RCT2) experienced a renaissance due to the development of mods, which added brand new scenery, coasters, and flat rides. The modding community arguably saved the entire genre, and is the inspiration for Frontier's Thememaker Toolkit for Planet Coaster & Zoo.
    4)The mixed reception ultimately comes down to everyone's personal preferences. Both 3D and 2D games had their strengths and weaknesses, with fans gravitating towards the game that best fit their style.

  • @iltaak
    @iltaak Месяц назад +11

    I honestly forgot about Roller Coaster Tycoon when Planet Coaster was coming out, the only other real competitor that people were talking about was Parkitect

  • @accolade.99
    @accolade.99 Месяц назад +51

    you absolutely could move guests in RCT3 dude

    • @doctorsam9200
      @doctorsam9200 Месяц назад +13

      Yeah him missing something like that confused me. How little of the game did he play if he couldn't find the claw button?

    • @accolade.99
      @accolade.99 Месяц назад +24

      @@doctorsam9200 i find criticisms of RCT3 are often like this-ill-informed nonsense.

    • @warrenparker8678
      @warrenparker8678 Месяц назад +18

      @@accolade.99 This. It always bugs me when people complain about the game when they weren't even around to play it and be in the community. There was so much innovation with RCT3 and without it we would not see the park management sims we see today.

    • @krabgrass
      @krabgrass 29 дней назад +17

      Yea he really should rework this video, huge L. Lol RCT3 is honestly the best out of all of them and in the remastered Complete Edition, the graphics look pretty good. The modding community is still active and alive even 20 years later!

    • @accolade.99
      @accolade.99 29 дней назад +7

      @@krabgrass i mean the graphics are pretty bad objectively speaking for a 3d game (even for the time), but they are endearing, and style ends up being more important. it's like saying N64 games had trash graphics-like no shit. even still, that game had so much soul. i see people praising the RCT1/2 soundtracks as well, as if they're even in the same galaxy as 3s. it's so funny. I'd imagine most of the criticsm comes from people not being able to run the game well back in '04, and it's just carried that bad reputation ever since.

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow Месяц назад +32

    Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 and 2 where so popular that it basically created a decade long trend of business sims and city builders slapping "Tycoon" at the end even if it didn't make sense, like with Moon Tycoon or School Tycoon.

    • @benh3518
      @benh3518 8 дней назад +2

      lol I remember school Tycoon. Somehow you were building a college but also had detention (read: literal prison).

    • @chrisstucker1813
      @chrisstucker1813 3 дня назад +1

      School Tycoon is hilarious 😂

  • @RVN-ps2wg
    @RVN-ps2wg Месяц назад +61

    I loved rct3 it was my childhood, i lovr the simplicity of it. Planet coaster is
    so complicated, you have to spend hours to make your park look good.

    • @keydenluster4501
      @keydenluster4501 Месяц назад +8

      Give parkitect a try, it’s essentially a modern RCT without getting complicated. You can make a beautiful and full park in a few hours rather than a few weeks.

    • @krabgrass
      @krabgrass 29 дней назад +13

      @@keydenluster4501 Only thing holding me back with Parkitect is the cartoonish graphics which are a huge turn-off. But honestly RCT3 didn't even age that bad, especially the Complete Remastered Edition. That's why I disagree with this video because the graphics and micro-managements make the game play good. Also you can still grab peeps with the tweezer tool so idk what he's on about. Lol

    • @user-gt7ux9iz7u
      @user-gt7ux9iz7u 4 дня назад

      That... is the point. Coaster games are management building games, people p lay them because the are complicated.

  • @openRCT2tutorials
    @openRCT2tutorials Месяц назад +9

    You forgot about RCT Classic and Touch which Chris Sawyer did work on quite extensively. Classic was released the same year as World so he was working with Atari to develop the title.

  • @andycanoy863
    @andycanoy863 Месяц назад +18

    Releasing a worse version of a Rollercoaster Tycoon sequel a day before the superior version which is a spiritual successor rather than part of the mainline series? Real smart Atari. 😆
    Reminds me of the Sim City 2013 disaster.

    • @iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg
      @iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg 3 дня назад +2

      And how Cities Skylines took over from a big company that tried to monetize too hard, except that the grid-based greatness of SimCity 4 is so much better any CS.

  • @IquonYT
    @IquonYT Месяц назад +23

    rct3 was one of my most beloved game in my childhood. so much nostalgia
    AND THEN YOU SHOW ZOO TYCOON OMG

    • @JTScottOfficial
      @JTScottOfficial 8 дней назад +1

      Same thing happened to ZT. Both 1 and 2 where amazing, then Microsoft destroyed the fun with the 2012 one.

  • @brofenix
    @brofenix Месяц назад +391

    Just some feedback, I really don't like the one word animation popping up in the middle of the screen in rapid succession. It makes my eyes hurt honestly and serves very little purpose imo. I would rather just listen to your narration while seeing a still image or preferably gameplay footage.

    • @CrazySquidward
      @CrazySquidward Месяц назад +51

      I really dislike that in videos too but unfortunately it seems that's the new trendy editing style

    • @dabbgy
      @dabbgy Месяц назад +16

      agreed, not a fan

    • @smartinezai
      @smartinezai Месяц назад +8

      My thoughts exactly

    • @tombowers7682
      @tombowers7682 Месяц назад +8

      Think it’s used cause a lot of platforms now auto play whilst scrolling so it acts as subtitles before you click on the video

    • @matt_gally
      @matt_gally Месяц назад +22

      Tik Tok influences coming to youtube rip

  • @edwardsr70
    @edwardsr70 8 дней назад +15

    Froniter now has announced a sequel of Planet Coaster 2 coming Fall 2024

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis Месяц назад +36

    Just play Parkitect? At this point it’s the definitive edition of the old games with a new fresh lick of paint…
    But a fun fact that I didn’t realize myself? The studio/person who made the RCT3 soundtrack is the same that made the Rimworld ost

    • @TheOfficialSmudgy
      @TheOfficialSmudgy Месяц назад +7

      Parkitect is a great game.

    • @downloadableram2666
      @downloadableram2666 Месяц назад +3

      Instructions unclear, mechanoids invaded theme park, harvested organs from parkgoers.

    • @k1ng5urfer
      @k1ng5urfer 26 дней назад +3

      Dude right, Parkitect is GOATED

  • @DaisukeFlamedramon
    @DaisukeFlamedramon 7 дней назад +2

    Answer, the spinoffs and everything after RCT3 had nothing to do with the original creator Chris Sawyer. Even for RCT3 he only acted in an advisory role. Chris Sawyer is a programming LEGEND and he is who created RCT 1 RCT 2 and RCT Classic.

  • @WillowLackett
    @WillowLackett Месяц назад +12

    RollerCoaster Tycoon never died. Both it and its sequel have continued to see fame and reverence across the globe, even to this day. Even Frontier Development's spin-off "RollerCoaster Tycoon 3" is well-loved.
    There are no other RollerCoaster Tycoon games outside those 3, and despite this, they each live on.

    • @mejman2
      @mejman2 4 дня назад +1

      I loved playing rct 3 when I was a kid

  • @fldgr
    @fldgr 10 дней назад +3

    Watching this randomly and finding out that Planet Coaster 2 has been announced just an hour ago! Can't wait for another GREAT game in the original spirit of Rollercoaster Tycoon!

  • @Javadamutt
    @Javadamutt Месяц назад +7

    Rollercoaster Tycoon may have been the gold standard but all the management games you mentioned could be traced back to Sim City (1989) or theme park (1994) or the sid meiers franchise like railroad tycoon (1990). All of them successful in their own right
    Rollercoaster tycoon refined the genre and brought a lot of people to the genre but it was built on what came before

  • @Mark-qj5kp
    @Mark-qj5kp Месяц назад +12

    Stoked to watch this as a diehard fan of the originals. I hope Parkitect gets mentioned!
    It's amazing and is the spiritual successor to the original RCT games. It also has multiplayer and is a ton of fun with friends.

  • @severeddeity8090
    @severeddeity8090 8 дней назад +2

    The sequel to planet coaster has been announced and looks extremely promising

  • @Pogueconductor
    @Pogueconductor День назад +1

    STORY TIME! I worked at infograms in tech support back in the day before that CEO took over. I loved my job. More than any job I have ever had in my life. About a month after he took over one day we had a company wide meeting. As you entered the big room, someone with a clipboard would direct you to the right or left side of chairs. After all the praise of the new ceo and how well games are going they said "But unfortunately if you are on the left side of the room this will be your last day here" that is how they laid us off

  • @murilopreto3710
    @murilopreto3710 Месяц назад +5

    Damn seeing the Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 ability to grab people brought back memories lol, fantastic game!

  • @andreasottohansen7338
    @andreasottohansen7338 Месяц назад +2

    11:42
    A move like realising a game so close to a competitor that is looking to do far better saleswise, is likely a strategy to mask culpability.
    This way, they can simply blame their competitor, rather than having higher management and investors breathing down their necks.

  • @bennplant
    @bennplant 6 дней назад +6

    Who is excited for Planet Coaster 2?

  • @brettjames5061
    @brettjames5061 Месяц назад +5

    Great retrospective. I think this is the perfect example of "Names don't matter in gaming". I don't think Frontier "beat the odds against them". they slanted the odds in there favor by, well, making a good game. When the rollercoster tycoon game was failing. This should be a lesson to any CEO in the gaming industry that fans can (and will) make better alternatives if the current games aren't great, and everyone will move the the better alternative

  • @506363
    @506363 7 дней назад +3

    @16:40 posted a couple weeks too soon. Frontier just announced Planet Coaster 2.

  • @BDNeon
    @BDNeon 4 дня назад +2

    I think you're too hard on RCT3, while it is indeed true it couldn't quite match the excellent coherent unified direction its predecessors had, it still stood on its own merits quite well and I have fond memories of it. The integration of both waterpark and zoo management stuff in the expansions was pretty great.

  • @ZiddersRooFurry
    @ZiddersRooFurry 19 дней назад +1

    Apparently Atari recently bought the rights to Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 from Frontier for $7.7 million. Despite Chris Sawyer's disappointment with Atari's efforts (and his suing them) he appears to be cozy enough with them to work out an arrangement where he's hand-signed commemorative swag they will of course be selling for a premium I'm sure.
    Like the old saying goes-money makes the (rollercoaster) world go 'round.

  • @Foreststrike
    @Foreststrike 12 дней назад +2

    Hmmm, a machine coded game that was extremely difficult to program for future operating systems to play it?
    Orrrr, a planned obsolescence game which will be unplayable after a few OS upgrades?
    I'll go with Chris Sawyer on this one.

  • @nixielee
    @nixielee 10 дней назад +1

    I think you skipped over the real reason behind 1 and 2 feeling special. Sawyer was a brilliant programmer, and wrote an extremely efficient game, and he did all of this by himself in assembly language. Not C++ or any other normal game language. Just to be closer to the machine and make it perfect. The result of that is a game that feels snappy, optimized and effective. Add to that the soul and obvious care that went into the development and you have a hit.

  • @m00nkinftw
    @m00nkinftw 3 дня назад

    Holycrap I couldn't believe I saw some of my own footage in here. I'm honored!

  • @pm8rsh233
    @pm8rsh233 15 дней назад +1

    Atari's intentions with releasing it one day before Planet Coaster was desperation and competition. They knew the state of their game in comparison to Planet Coaster, and they knew they can't compete. Releasing it before Planet Coaster was an attempt to force people to decide what game they want to spend their money on. If they bought their game, then people were less likely to then buy Planet Coaster. But they also knew that if they released it before Planet coaster, they might actually make some money than if they released it after. They knew their product sucked, and they knew that they loose any chance to make any money from it after Planet Coaster was released.

  • @SouthsideArchives
    @SouthsideArchives 3 дня назад +1

    if Frontier was still developing for Atari... RCT4 would basically be Planet Coaster and the legacy of the franchise would have been epic.

  • @TheOrian34
    @TheOrian34 Месяц назад +9

    Infogrames traumatized a generation of children.

  • @ggamemaster1689
    @ggamemaster1689 8 дней назад +2

    I still have Rollercoaster Tycoon 3!! It is still a fun PC game and creating dynamic coasters.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 День назад

      Yeah, RCT3 wasn't awful. The RCT mobile games and World were bad though.

  • @PatrickMartinez1
    @PatrickMartinez1 Месяц назад +7

    Anyone that is a fan of the original Roller Coaster Tycoon needs to play the new spiritual successor to that game, Parkitect. It is absolutely brilliant and I was immediately brought back to my childhood. It is a masterpiece.

    • @publicacct5626
      @publicacct5626 Месяц назад +5

      Parkitect is a much better sim game compared to Planet Coaster. Not sure how the video's creator overlooked it entirely.

  • @MichaelMyers3000
    @MichaelMyers3000 2 дня назад +1

    RCT2 was peak for this franchise for sure. But yea, Planet Coaster does feel like the real worthy successor to those games.

  • @worldoffood123
    @worldoffood123 Месяц назад +3

    Honestly huge respect to Sawyer for working hard to create the masterpiece, then immediately retiring when it made him rich. Pretty much the dream.

    • @gompedyret
      @gompedyret 5 дней назад +1

      He didn't "retire when it made him rich". He had fullfilled his vision and didn't want to work further on the project based on someone else's vision. He simply let it go to follow other passions of his (like making Locomotion), which in my book commands much more respect.

  • @FourKelvin
    @FourKelvin 10 дней назад +1

    The reason 1 and 2 were so good, was that chris sawyer is a programming god. I mean the guy programmed it in assembly, basically direct machine instructions.
    3 was not a bad game imho, with all the expansions - which aren't expensive, you can get everything for 10€ - you get a lot of content. I must've put several hundrets of hours into RCT3

  • @ArchitectPlaysparkitect
    @ArchitectPlaysparkitect 16 дней назад +3

    Parkitect is like Roller Coaster Tycoon but with modern graphics

  • @Hoplyte8
    @Hoplyte8 20 дней назад +1

    Frontier got done dirty. First of all, because of putting those Roller Coaster Tycoon World complaints over footage of Planet Coaster. Second, lumping RCT3 in with the dredge that followed. I loved RCT1 and 2, but it was clear they had just about maximized on iso builders (which is why Open and Parkitekt are so similar). A lot of desired features required 3D, which was more difficult and graphics-intensive (cue simpler human designs). Frontier did great for the time, and most nitpicks were just that. What we wanted was further development of what was achieved in 3, both new capabilities plus the return of some from 2. We wanted a proper 4. We finally got that with Planet Coaster thanks to Frontier. 3 was great and a good step forward.

  • @WistfulDread
    @WistfulDread Месяц назад +11

    Calling Roller Coaster Tycoon the starter for management game popularity is absolute BS.
    Theme Park came out in '94. Sim City in '89.
    WTF Robo?

    • @AVdE10000
      @AVdE10000 28 дней назад +4

      This video has some pretty obvious personal biases slipped in there. I love RCT to death, but yeah, that was a very silly statement. Man also talks about rct3 like it wasn't a smash hit with fans and critics alike

    • @teammelkerphilippines3620
      @teammelkerphilippines3620 17 дней назад

      LOVED Theme Park on the 3DO, so many great memories!

  • @moribundcrux
    @moribundcrux 10 дней назад +2

    Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 is my most played RCT. Not because I like it the most, but because of the ability to ride my rides. My son LOVES to ride the coasters that I remake off of real life rides. Perhaps I could buy Planet Coaster?

    • @rodh1404
      @rodh1404 9 дней назад +2

      Planet Coaster is mostly an improved version of RCT3. But if you wait just a bit longer, Planet Coaster 2 has been very recently announced, and it looks like it will be mostly the same (with just a few tweaks, mostly coming from their experience with Planet Zoo) and the addition of the one thing I really missed - a water park. It's supposed to come out in Fall this year.
      That said, Planet Coaster goes on sale fairly frequently these days and it does have a relatively cheap subscription option that lets you check it out with all the DLC. If you don't care about the water park, I'd say this is a great option.

    • @moribundcrux
      @moribundcrux 9 дней назад

      @@rodh1404 I think I'll wait. My son likes the water rides, too.

    • @TwiceXpenn
      @TwiceXpenn 18 часов назад

      planet coaster is a great game but even as someone who loves rct3 its very complicated its completely offgrid and coasters are a lot harder to build (in my opinion at least) but still a great game jsut not the easiest to get into

  • @firefalcoln
    @firefalcoln 2 дня назад +1

    There were some nice things in Roller Coaster Tycoon 3. More types of coasters, the sandbox mode, and being able to ride the coasters was neat. There were also finally families at the park rather than just a bunch of single men. 😂
    But designing coasters that would crash and drowning guests was also lots of fun. Not allowing that in the game was sort of like not allowing someone in zoo tycoon to let the animals out of the habitat. Creating chaos is half the fun

  • @Hawkeye_PC
    @Hawkeye_PC 13 дней назад +2

    @robokast Anything beyond Open RCT and RCT2 is been declared as non-cannon by the community. Open RCT is now the quintessential RCT game.

  • @beardedlonewolf7695
    @beardedlonewolf7695 3 дня назад +1

    Planet Coaster saved the theme park video games.
    Can't wait for PC2 to release later this year.

  • @rrfarmer2000
    @rrfarmer2000 13 дней назад +2

    Parkitect is more of a real spiritual sequel to RCT than Planet Coaster, even if it didn't get as many sales.

  • @MashBro
    @MashBro 2 дня назад +1

    The part where you mention Infogrames is a little confusing. While yes, they technically rebranded, Infogrames actually acquired Atari as a whole in 2003, but Atari still existed before then. Just the wording I found a little off.

  • @Tekay37
    @Tekay37 10 дней назад +1

    There is one reoccurring pattern of when a brand goes downhill badly. It's always the company (or at least the people making the decisions) not understanding its own product.

  • @ct578
    @ct578 Месяц назад +4

    It's a shame Sawyer dipped out when offered a bag. I recall a few years ago the rights were extended another decade to Atari from him, even though he himself is completely uninvolved.

    • @OrgaNik_Music
      @OrgaNik_Music Месяц назад +9

      On the other hand Sawyer can now enjoy his best life without having to worry about anything

    • @crytocc
      @crytocc 9 дней назад +1

      Given the bullshit that Atari got up to, that was probably the right choice, to be honest. If he'd stayed involved, then the only thing that would've resulted in is him burning out due to having to deal with Atari's ridiculous demands and ideas.

  • @meher_pratap
    @meher_pratap 10 дней назад +1

    Rct3 was fun. I still play it sometimes. Who remembers railroad tycoon?

  • @cabrelbeuk72
    @cabrelbeuk72 5 дней назад +1

    "Have yet to announced a sequel" Ah ! Guess what !

  • @XiaoXiaoMan1123
    @XiaoXiaoMan1123 Месяц назад +9

    I wouldn't give Frontier too much credit. Corporate greed held back Planet Coaster's full potential. Denuvo and overpriced DLC (for which they then introduced a subscription service for, well after dropping support for the game) leave a bad taste in my mouth for what is otherwise a superb park building experience. I blame the suits for those boneheaded decisions. Planet Coaster feels like a passion project; RCT3 walked so PC could run, which only dials up the frustration. At least the OG games still hold up, especially combined with OpenRCT2.

  • @courage1363
    @courage1363 День назад +1

    You know Planet Coaster 2 WAS just announced a week ago.

  • @richarddutton1981
    @richarddutton1981 11 дней назад +1

    Blows my mind to realize that Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 & 2 were technically indie games made by ONE guy. Has to go down as some of the greatest masterpieces ever with that in mind. I don't think I could ever count how many hours I had into RCT1 with my shitty old laptop that I kept forever just to play that game alone. These are the types of things that make me think back to my childish days and smile from ear to ear. God I wish I could go back to the days of no care in the world...

  • @fireironphoenix
    @fireironphoenix 5 дней назад +1

    I miss having guests eaten by animals in zoo tycoon

  • @Burnlit1337
    @Burnlit1337 8 дней назад +1

    I bought and played RC1 for a few bucks when it came to mobile. It is still really good and controls well in the mobile format, and all without any horrible mobile money grabs; it was truly a breath of fresh air amidst all the crap thrown in the mobile games market. Although, my older brother loved it more than me because he finished every single map long before me, even the DLCs. Despite me being ahead of him and I being the one telling him about it.
    Edit: I just checked out the mobile ver of RC1 again and I'm baffled by its middling rating. Even the one Atari made call RC Touch. It has alot of 5 stars but then a good amount of 1 stars. With the common one is technical difficulties. I never had any issues with it so idk what they are talking about. I still stand that the RC1 on mobile is still great

    • @Flurofish
      @Flurofish 8 дней назад

      So true. RTC classic on mobile is great and one of the only true build/management games without the usual mobile came crap (waiting loops, in-game currency, watch add to play...).
      Theo Town, high rise (sadly killed by last update), planet of mine, the last earth and some of the kairosoft games are quite good classic builders. But sadly it's super hard to find those and to avoid the idle games flooding the store.

  • @nikolanojic6861
    @nikolanojic6861 16 дней назад +1

    First game i palyed form this series was RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 ! It was so amazing me and my brother have played over 400 hours of this game each , we loved it .

  • @Eradicatorc
    @Eradicatorc 8 дней назад +1

    I played Rollercoaster Tycoon 4 Mobile, and at first it was such a blast, but soon after it became a buggy mess, and crashes all the time, even if I used a different device. So much lost potential. You could play it everywhere with it being on mobile but the bugs made it unplayable.

    • @quan_webbslinger
      @quan_webbslinger 4 дня назад

      I remember watching my monorail float across the park in pieces lol... damn shame

    • @Eradicatorc
      @Eradicatorc 4 дня назад

      @@quan_webbslinger Yeah, my pet peeve with the game was that no matter how many Cleaners and repair man you hired, they would always start over after switching to your second RollercoasterPark, no progress saved. So really only 2 cleaners were like actually useful, and like 1 repairman, and they costed more and more the more you wanted to buy, so the maximum you could even afford was like 2 of them, so it made the whole mechanic useless.

  • @UnixGoldBoy
    @UnixGoldBoy 9 дней назад +1

    You forgot to mention OpenRCT2. Also, Planet Coaster 2 was just shown off......

  • @lovelydolltime8006
    @lovelydolltime8006 2 дня назад

    The thing I hate about RCT3 is how they removed the ability to kill guests in that game (whereas you can easily kill them in RCT1 and 2). :(

  • @shteebo
    @shteebo 6 дней назад

    The "sim" genre was established by SimCity, RailroadTycoon, and MS FlightSimulator. RollerCoasterTycoon was a fine example of the already established genre.

  • @Fender178
    @Fender178 10 дней назад +1

    I played the fist RCT game and loved it. I own Planet Coaster and still have yet to play it. Also RCT3 got a remaster with widescreen support Also done by the same devs as Planet Coaster. I never knew that Atari made any more RCT games after 3.

  • @FoxRS
    @FoxRS 5 часов назад

    You should mention that you can get Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic, on Android, from Atari, which are the first original 2 games very well ported to mobile.

  • @DialgaMarine3
    @DialgaMarine3 13 дней назад

    My assumption as the why it died was because Atari didn’t work with Frontier to make RCT4 much sooner, and took well over a decade to release RCTW, which turned out to be an unfinished broken mess, while Frontier’s Planet Coaster turned out to be amazing.
    Didn’t help that the game with the name “RCT4” was a cheap mobile game that was flooded with MT’s.
    It’s really a damn shame what Atari did to the franchise. It used to be gold.

  • @DJWezzyK
    @DJWezzyK Месяц назад +2

    With OpenRCT2, Rollercoaster Tycoon is more alive then ever before!

  • @RFGfotografie
    @RFGfotografie Месяц назад +2

    OpenRCT 2 is still hugely populair. And a lot of people stay this genius game (RTC2). After that, only Planet Coaster came close to the succes/greatness of this game.

  • @joshhudson9839
    @joshhudson9839 День назад +1

    I thought rtc3 was great, it wasn't like the first 2 but it was a good game in its own right. To me what really killed roller coaster tycoon was the departure of Frontier, they would go on to make Thrillville after rct3 and eventually planet coaster.

  • @adamzbzar4573
    @adamzbzar4573 10 дней назад +1

    What's crazy is I bought roller coaster tycoon world and I never played it not once 🤣 roller coaster tycoon 1 2 and 3 was the best planet coaster is now the go to

  • @derbrot2428
    @derbrot2428 7 дней назад

    I played RCT2 on my grandpa's PC when I was 6 years old and never really understood it back then. Now I watch this and remember the great time I had with that game. I just now realize how bad the franchise got after that game and I am happy to have played that title and no else. My nostalgia is kicking so hard rn that I am thinking of playing OpenRCT2 as a chill game while watching videos like this one.

  • @lanwish
    @lanwish День назад

    Chris made Transport Tycoon before RCT, he wasnt just "another developer".

  • @AVdE10000
    @AVdE10000 28 дней назад +2

    Rollercoaster tycoon World was the first game I ever asked a refund for on Steam

  • @meganberbaum762
    @meganberbaum762 13 дней назад

    This vid makes me want to play this game again. I grew up with the deluxe disc that had both the original 2 games.
    Just saw the iPhone App Store hasn’t updated the app in 6 yrs and it doesn’t work well on iPhone 15… fingers crossed my iPad can still run it.

  • @ImSoHuhj
    @ImSoHuhj Месяц назад +3

    Real ones got this shit in the cereal box

  • @BongoBaggins
    @BongoBaggins Месяц назад +2

    Frontier also sued Atari, and Frontier also won. Then they sold Tycoon to Atari 🙄

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames 2 дня назад

    still playing Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, tried planet coaster its not the same now stalls are crazy big we cant cram in all we want theres not enough room limiting creativity.

  • @N3UM4NN4TOR
    @N3UM4NN4TOR 11 дней назад

    The first game was legendary. I was 8 when it came out and I clearly remember great childhood memories playing it. I now play Cities Skylines because of the love for management games the first RCT gave me.

  • @surfeit5910
    @surfeit5910 11 дней назад +1

    Parkitect is the only game that really captures the original RCT atmosphere more so than Planet Coaster does.

  • @danielmarcus420
    @danielmarcus420 3 дня назад

    I discovered Rct Classic a year or so ago and it's all I could play for a few months. It's was just as addictive as it was 20 years ago and having a touch screen instead of a mouse worked fantastic!

  • @Norkington
    @Norkington 10 дней назад +1

    I have been through a lot of Theme park related games.
    RCT 1 and 2 are among the best ones. I also enjoyed RCT 3, although the Zoo themed addon never convinced me.
    RCT World was a disappointment, i never managed to run the game for mor than 30 min without ending up with a corrupted save game.
    Though it was still more fun than Theme park Studio.
    Imo there has only been one good mobile RCT game, and that is the mobile port of RCT1+2(RCT Classic)
    I would love for a successor to the Bullfrog Theme park games, its a more casual experience. Maybe the guys at TwoPoint can fulfil that dream.
    Planet coaster is an awesome game, hopefully the just announced planet coaster 2 can follow that up(I am careful due to what happened with Cities skylines 2)
    For anybody who loved RCT 1 and 2 and likes management aspect i can only recommend Parkitect.

  • @sentokigames151
    @sentokigames151 10 дней назад +1

    Remember the game Themepark by Bullfrog?

  • @krabgrass
    @krabgrass 29 дней назад +1

    I disagree with what you said about RCT3 and I can tell that you have never played the game because you can IN FACT pick up peeps with the tweezers. Also the graphics didn't age that bad, you're just playing the original version rather than the remastered Complete Edition. One of the things that impress me about RCT3 is the water reflection details. Whatever footage you were using for the game was being played on a potato PC. Lol RCT3 is honestly the best out of all of them and in the remastered Complete Edition, the graphics look pretty good. The modding community is still active and alive even 20 years later, so if you think the peeps or other stuff looks dated, there are mods to improve that. It is honestly the best out of the entire series.

    • @Fender178
      @Fender178 10 дней назад

      He was talking about the OG release of RTC3 NOT the remastered version in his video.

  • @eddieru
    @eddieru Месяц назад +1

    so how does thrillville fit into this?

  • @Mooncubus
    @Mooncubus Месяц назад

    I played the original Roller Coaster Tycoon for years growing up. I also remember watching my stepdad play it for ages. He was way better at it than I ever was lol
    Great deep dive, but the camera flashes and noises are very distracting

  • @Premchand-cd6ci
    @Premchand-cd6ci 6 дней назад

    What the hell RUclips app now has a jump ahead button when the sponsor spot starts, nice 👍

  • @aselwyn1
    @aselwyn1 4 дня назад

    the music was just so classic and iconic

  • @TypicalNerds
    @TypicalNerds 10 дней назад +2

    Video Title is answered at 12:27

  • @Pickleduck.
    @Pickleduck. Месяц назад +6

    Here before the bot wave

  • @neshmariegiles-ei9rv
    @neshmariegiles-ei9rv 13 дней назад

    Because of Roller Coaster Tycoon I've been obsessed with rollercoasters and park building since I was 11 years old... I am now 30

  • @jtchmpgne
    @jtchmpgne 2 дня назад

    RCT3 was pretty epic. From today's standard no, but if you were alive at the time, you'd know it was pretty well-received.

  • @gdn86
    @gdn86 5 дней назад

    IMO, Parkitect is the modern RCT. I have not played Planet Coaster, but based on how much I have played Parkitect, I cannot imagine anything else coming close to what RCT and RCT2 were.

  • @sebastiansensei1926
    @sebastiansensei1926 10 дней назад +1

    I've played RCT and RCT2 as a child and teenager. I was not very impressed by RCT3 but kept playing it, until i discovered Planet Coaster. I've played Planet Coaster for almost 300 hours and loves all about the scenary and all the builds that could be done. Frontier totally b*tch slaped Atari there, big time!
    Just like a week ago i brought Parkitect, this is also a great game even if its been out for a while. Parkitect is what Atari should have aimed for to develop after RCT2.

    • @rodh1404
      @rodh1404 9 дней назад

      Parkitect is a very good game but for me it has two fatal flaws. First, the camera angles mean it's hard to put rides down exactly where you want them, particularly big roller coasters. Second, the game doesn't have an "undo" option. The combination of those two things really killed this game for me, I just can't continue to play it. If those things don't bother you much, then Parkitect has so many good things to offer.

  • @Somesortadog
    @Somesortadog 9 дней назад

    Love you Robokast, but anyone else use that Most Replayed curve to skip the sponsor segment?

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney6837 9 дней назад

    Roller Coaster Tycoon Deluxe was one of my favorite games back then