HOW to COLLECT WINE like a MASTER
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A question I frequently get from you guys is that you want to know what is in my cellar. I am not going to show you everything I have because that’s private, but I want to teach you how to build a wine collection and how to store your wines to become a real wine collector.
I will also show you a few wines from my collection that you should get for your cellar too. When I started getting into wine I did not have any money, no space, and did not know enough to collect wine. I bought my wines at the supermarket or wine shops and usually opened them on the same evening. In the following years, I could not build a collection either because I moved from country to country and lived in flats where I kept my wines in cupboards and under staircases.
When we bought this house one of the reasons, I fell in love with it was this cellar, which is pretty much perfect for storing wine. It is cold, dark, and humid - just the way your wine likes it.
But you do not necessarily need a great cellar to build your collection.
There is no official definition of what makes someone a wine collector but my definition would be that a collector buys wine to build a collection of wines she or he enjoys. A wine collector therefore makes strategic long-term decisions when buying wines as opposed to just buying wine for the next dinner party. But why should you build a collection?
When me and my wife (a fellow wine lover) got married in our favorite winery in our home country of Bulgaria, we thought we should give ourselves a present that will both last a lifetime but also always bring us back to our special day. This is why we decided to ask the winemaker of the winery to make a wine, which suits both our tastes and which would mature beautifully. We ended up with a full barique for us (225 litres so we got about 275 bottles of it) of a blend between Cabernet Sauvignon and the indigenous and most renowned grape variety of Bulgaria - Mavrud. We said that we shall open a bottle only on special occasions and let the rest mature so that we have a special wine for every event in our life. It has been aging beautifully for 18 months in the barrique and already 3 years in bottles. Cant wait to see what it will taste like in couple of decades but the good thing is that so far we have been disciplined and only had about 5 or six bottles :D
That's a nice story!
I hope you enjoy your wine to the full.I'm from Dupnitsa.Cheers.
I'm just curious, how much did this all cost?
@@christianconnolly9257 well, around 3000 EUR. This being said, I am a good friend to the owner ao I got a great discount!
How many bottles have you gone through now
A family member received a bottle of 1997 Louis Roederer Cristal as a gift 15+ years ago. However, neither he nor his wife drink, so they recently gave the bottle to me. I was grateful to get it, but a little concerned because the bottle was never stored properly. I don't think it ever saw the inside of a cellar. For years it sat upright in a basket underneath a window. I popped the cork on it last night and it was fantastic. Creamy texture with flavors of stone fruit and some floral notes I couldn't quite place. I was really surprised.
Considering the fact that it never has been stored correctly, you have been lucky, my friend!
I never stored wine, but with beers (the ones with a cork) usually lose most of the carbonation after a few years. My 2015 beers are usually pretty flat.
It's not ideal, but some people do store champagne vertically. Also the bottle shape makes it quite difficult and I've resulted in buying wine crates to store some of them since they won't fit in my small wine fridge or wooden wine rack.
had a simple moët & chandon impérial brut in a room full of light for 8 years… opening it was disgusting… it was for the toilet. I‘m so happy for you!
Wine is more resilient than most people make it out to be (particularly those selling you cellaring equipment). Konstantin did a great episode on this exact topic with a blind tasting too.
Fantastic video; I just found your channel tonight and have been watching a few.
I my 1.200+ strong cellar, a 1959 bottle of Château Margaux I bought at the smallest estate sale in history. A woman was sorting out her parents estate after the passing of her mother, and in the cellar of the house, this bottle and a Chambertin 1955, which sadly was last it’s peak. The bottles her parents got for their wedding, and had stored for a special occasion. She thought the bottles were worthless, and even though I tried to explain the virtue of the Margaux, she would not take more than 40€ for it…. The label is 95%, level is into neck and the writing in the cork is clearly visible. I have not the heart to drink it, as her story comes mind every time I pass the bottle in the cellar.
I look forward to many more videos; I really enjoy your energy and warmth, and I can tell you’re really into wine. All the time you are not “over the top” as many of your American colleagues tend to be.
Anders, Denmark.
Thanks Anders - great story!
Currently, my number one bottle is Schloss Johannisberg Riesling Spätlese Grünlack from1964, rebottled in 2003 and to be enjoyed with a bottle from 2019, which Stuart Pigott rated 💯 points, on Christmas evening 🤩🤩🥂🥂 In addition, we’re going to empty a treasure box from Martin Korrell (Nahe) with bottles from 1976, 1986, 1996 , 2006 and 2016 (we’re a large wine loving family) 😉 🎅 🎄
2 portuguese wines.. love it 😉 cheers from portugal 🇵🇹
Been drinking wine for a few years now but recently the idea of collecting has been on my mind.I have a Gaja Barbaresco 2017,a Le Credence de Haut-Brion 2016,a Biondi Santi Brunello di Montalcino 2015 and I am looking forward to go pick up tomorrow a Valdicava Madonna del Piano Brunello di Montalcino Riserva 2015,which according to my homework,was an amazing year in Tuscany.I am loving this hobby so much,I collect niche fragrances too.
My best success in storing wine was a Mount Langi Ghiran Shiraz 2000 (AUS). I stored it for 16 years, and it was one of the most amazing wines I ever tasted.
That's a wonderful wine. The 1999 is also an eye-opener.
What a great video. One of the best I’ve seen explaining collection and storage.
I'm patiently storing a 2016 (and a recently added 2017) Chateau Pichon Longueville Comtesse de Lalande, which I'm hoping will be as much of a mouthful to drink down the road as it is to say.
I stumbled on it a few years ago at a Bordeaux event, and the 2016 was heaven in a bottle!
A (very good) friend just gave us a bootle of the 2016. Our 30th wedding anniversary is in 6 years. The anticipation!
Grateful for this approachable, useful and rounded overview. It was news to me that Rieslings and Champagnes cellar well (thanks!), also appreciated the nod to sweet wines and ports that store indefinitely but which we might overlook (perhaps precisely because they are occasional).
I just started collecting, and found your videos really informative. I loved the port advice-I just don’t drink that much but do like to have some around. Small bottles are a great solution.
I only got into wine because I was diagnosed with severe Celiac Disease in late 2014 - so beer was off the menu. But - thank Jeebus for Celiac bc wine is awesome. I now am a certified Somm & have a (likely) too large cellar (3,000+) but wines from almost every country & all wine types included. Some of the faves most looked forward to? 1985 La Chapelle, 1995 Chave Hermitage, 1965 TF Port, a 1904 Sherry, 2015 Chateau Margaux (last wine of Paul Pontallier) ...
Came across your channel last week and am thoroughly enjoying you videos.
I have 1 btl 1998 Haute Brion. My first (and only) 1st growth Bordeaux. Purchased on release for $350 CDN. Back then I thought this was crazy to shell out this much for a bottle of wine. Today this sells for over $2,000. CDN.Not that I plan on selling it. My wife's 65th birthday is approaching and I think it may be time to pop the cork.
Enjoyed your latest clips! Contentwise as always but also the video and audio quality improved. Nicely done!
Great tips and nice bottles showed from your collection! I particularly love Bordeaux in general such as 2009 and 2010 vintages and Brunello from the stellar vintages 2010 and 2016! in terms of names well look after Brunello Le Potazzine, Barolo Massolino, Chateau Margaux, and Smith-Haut Lafite.
Have a few bottles of 1985 chateau marquis de terme in the cellar. Plan on opening up one for christmas, really looking forward to it
Hi Konstantin! I recently discovered your channel and love it! Keep up the great work! Hey, i moved to a new house and no longer have a cellar to store my wine collection; do you have any advice on selecting a wine cooler to store and age wine? Thank you!
I have a few that I am really looking forward to opening: 2012 Cuvée du Papet - Clos du Mont-Olivet, 2016 Pontet-Canet, and, being from Switzerland, 2018 Daniel & Marta Gantenbein Pinot Noir (which is said to be as good as a great Burgundy!)
Your advice is so bloody practical.. (That is a compliment)
I bought boat loads of 19s as it was top year for quality and prices were discounted. I got a half case of lafite and Moulton...looking forward to those! One wine I just tried and was off the charts good value for quality is the 2016 Trigant. I accidentally bought another 10 cases. 300 per case with my broker
No longer in my cellar, but I had a couple bottles of vintage 1982 champagne that I opened for my 40th. Currently, two bottles of 1986 and two 1990 Grand Cru Bordeaux.
I am holding on to a 1982 Ch. Haut Brion waiting for that special occasion. I will likely drink it soon.
I have several 2008 and 2012 Champaigns ,Paul Bara and Veuve Clicquot, including some magnums. I call it, investing in future happiness. If you ever travel to Oregon, give me a shout.
Love all your info, follow you constantly. Question: one of my favorite wines is Mouton Cadet. I would love to hear what you think of it and and recommendations of similar wines I should try, knowing I love the oak, grape mix of this blend and also how can they be so consistent year to year?
I love Trimbach's reserves , such great character .
The bottle i am looking forward to taste over the next few years is a 1963 Quinta Do Noval Nacional... i am trying very hard to postpone the day..... Thanks Konstantin, great video.
Great show, Konstantin! I have a Vecchia Cantina, Vino Nobile Di Montepulciano, 2016 that I'm waiting to open. My collection is rather small, but like you said, have some wines on hand for any occasion.
My cellar of ~500 bottles is almost exclusively composed of top Douro valley reds and vintage Ports!
I’m very much looking forward to opening a 2000 Pontet Canet Bordeaux. That vintage was the same year I was born and I plan to open it once I graduate from university
Looks like you have some pretty good friends! I'm saving some Brunellos in my collection. Can't wait to open those... but I will.
I am fond of Supertuscans and have a Sassicaia (2018) and Ceparello (2015 and 2018) sleeping in my cellar.
This Christmas though, I intend to open a Cos d’Estournel 1998 from the Bordeaux section.
My bottle to wait for I bought recently, Cos dEstournel 2019 and I will drink it when I retire in 12 years 😊
The former bottle I had for 24 years in my cellar, I drank in 2022 together with my best friend to celebrate our 50 friendship and the bottle was a 1967 Chateau Margaux
Thank you for the wonderful recommendations! I have some the wines that you mentioned.
Thanks!
Have a bottle of Graham’s 1988 waiting in my wine fridge for a special occasion! Thanks for the tips too.
Just started getting into wine and have become pretty passionate about it. Got a few bottles of Dunn 2017 that I’m excited about aging as well as two brunellos and 2 Krug 169eme edition
That's a nice start!
Great video Konstantin, easy without any fancy vocabulary, just what I was expecting, a small guidance into what to collect !! To answer your question , I am waiting to open a bottle of „Ben Glaetzer Amon Ra Shiraz Barossa Valley 2014“
You should have answered your own question! :) I recently got a bottle of 1944 Mavrodaphne of Patras. I focus a lot on Greek Wine and I am excited as there are few wines thst old from thst country (there is a family who has one barrel from thst vintage and from time to time sells a couple of bottles).
Amazing! Any chance you would share (privately)? :)
Wow I can’t believe you plugged Tyrell’s Vat 1
I live nearby the vineyard and know the winemaker very well
The Lower Hunter is known for its aged Semillon in Australia, but great to see it has traction as far north as Germany
I’ve got a 1994 grange that I am waiting to open! Going to open it when I turn 30.
Hmm, my most treasured bottle is probably one of my homemade carménère-cab blends. I look forward to storing it for another four or so years.
You make a good point on the fortified wines - I'll get some of that sweet muscat that I enjoy and age it for a couple years, it'll probably only get better.
My collection is rather small, due to financial restrictions but my bottles of spätlese and auslese Riesling make me very happy. They will become better and better over the years.
Trimbach Frederic Emile!!!! My desert island wine!
2016 Louis Latour romanée st. vivant Les quatre journaux! It's part of the first batch of wines I purchase after building my cellar and one of the wine that should last for quite a qhile can't wait to start opening them !
I haven't started a cellar yet, but I do plan on starting one in the near future. I definitely need to have Nebiolo and Bordeaux in there! I think I'll go with a few Super Tuscans and Chianti Classico as well. Some Chablis and Napa Chardonnay, Cremant du Bourgonge... now you have me excited!
Don’t forget about some Spanish red vines 😉
I actually just opened it recently. It was a 2007 Williams Selyem butcher vineyards pinot noir. It was worth the wait…incredible pour
Very interesting! Thank you so much
Raimund for the win!!!
Loved your Video mate
We have a large cellar and some of our more expensive wine kept in wine storage
We like to buy our cases of wine direct from the winery to help them maximise their profit
Great video, thank you! I have a bottle of Domaine Tempier Bandol Rosé 2019 in my cellar that I would really like to try after aging. When do you suggest I drink it?
An Yquem 2014, way too young to open but will be worth the wait!
Very interesting wine tips!
Cellar Goals! I'm trying to slowly add to my wine collection. But sometimes I'm not patient enough >.< I'm really excited to about a 2007 Barolo that I bought in Piedmont and I've kept with me. Planning to open it for my birthday next year.
I have collected around 100 bottles for medium and long term consumption.
I've got a few Santorini assyrtiko that are proven to last at least a decade, also a few Vinsanto and some Xinomavro, so I am patiently waiting for them to evolve.
2016 Standish Lamella. The suspense is (already) killing me!
Nice video! I want to buy small bottles of Port now ahah.
The bottle I'm excited to open is a white Hermitage from Jean-Louis Chave 2017. But I must wait a few years more for the best!
great to find you here.
It is hard to choose a bottle but a few would be 2004 Brunate from Rinaldi. Those bottles are just hidden, some 99s from Angerville and any of the 05s and 10s that I have
The most important factor that you neglected to mention is how to exercise restraint! 😂
Either thar or buy more wine 😉
I started my cellar with a case of 2016 Clos des Papes, and am looking forward to sharing with some friends for their 40th’s in the years ahead (I’ll keep 6 behind to evolve further!)
Great content! I wish you could make a review on Barca Velha. I know it's a bit pricey, but it's one of the most iconic wines from Douro Valley. Jancis Robinson called it the best wine from Portugal. If you ever have the chance... Cheers!
Greatttt call on Riesling and Hunter Valley Semillon. And sweet wines - probably the most underrated age-worth wines. Sweet Tokaji are some of my favorite wines of alll time. And ohhhhhhh Nebbioloooooooo...
Gotta love them all.
I’ve got 2 bottles of alter ego 2017 , can’t wait to open those!
Cellar and wine fridge. Wine fridge (50 bottle capacity) is for “good” wines, everything from a ‘59 primitivo, to an ‘18 left bank, Fixed at 55f and 70%rh. Cellar is 65 to 68f, room for 468, humidity is 72 to 76%. Cellar is dark, concrete on bedrock. Mostly I buy to drink. But the 2014 Clos Sainte Hune is one I’m wait on a bit. 😎
A bottle of 2003 Chateau Rayas, so looking forward to drink this one!
I just bought my first ever bottles of first growth Bordeaux - 2010 Haut Brion and Ch Margaux, and 2016 Haut Brion and Mouton Rothschild. I got them on a deal that was too good to pass up, and I wish I could have bought more than just a few bottles. I have buried them under other things in my cabinet to avoid the temptation to open them anytime soon. In the reasonably near future I am excited to open a bottle of 2005 Clos de Lambrays and a 2002 Pol Roger Winston Churchill.
I am sitting on s few 1994 snf 1997 Dow's vintage Port, I hope they will be as lucious as I first tried them decades ago
Great vintages!
Do you think screw-cap wines are more robust when it comes to storage conditions? Do they withstand temperature fluctuations or non-ideal temperatures better than cork wines? Do you also know if there is any quantitative research on how much air passes into the bottle over time for a screw-cap wine vs cork? Thanks! Great video
I really enjoyed the video is very informative.
We are trying to resist opening a bottle of Chateau Kirwan from 2015.
My Bottle in the Celler is a 2017 Batonnage from the Club Batonnage. 🍷
1:34 genius logic here.
Appreciates in value. Sell it. Buy moar wine.
JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinet. Bought when visiting JJ Prum with my wife in our first year of marriage, planning on opening the last bottle at our 30th anniversary :) Still a long way out though 😢
Another great video! With over 350 bottles in my collection and some really nice ones, it’s tough to say which is the one I am looking forward to the most. At this point I love a good surprise and a bottle that has aged well and isn’t corked. Recently I opened a Ridge Petit Sirah Essence. To my knowledge this wine has only been made once before. I bought this wine at release and cellared it for 18 years.
Hoping to be like you one day. I just started my collection 2 years ago: Mayacamas, Tignanello, etc. I didnt know Petit sirah could age that long. Good to know.
@@chrisginoc Collecting is fun and rewarding. Try this approach. Buy 3 of one type of wine. One for now. One for mid term cellaring. One for long term. Obviously this is not a rigid guideline for ALL wines. For example, a PN rose should be consumed sooner than a riesling auslese. So for the 2106 Mayacamas cabernet, get 3 bottles. Drink one right away. The next one in 5-7 years. The 3rd one at 15-17 years. Once you have 50 different wines(3 bottles each) your collection will start to be rewarding. You will begin to understand and almost predict how a wine will evolve. AND.... if in 10 years from now if you have 10 vintages of Mayacamas cabernet you will be an expert on their evolution. You can choose the right vintage for the meal, rather than the varietal. A softened and well aged Mayacamas cabernet for cheeses and nuts vs a young one for a huge prime rib. Make sense?
@@eric1richards Ordered my Eurocave. It's getting shipped as we speak. Can't wait to continue collecting. As much as I love super tuscans and other wines, I can never seem to let go of Napa cabs like Turnbull, Shafer, Trefethen, etc. Any recommendations on how to better appreciate Bordeauxs that are lighter than the Napa cabs I'm used to?
@@chrisginoc It will come with time. Try to adopt the viewpoint that champagne houses about their peers. “Our wines are not better than other champagne house’s wines, we’re just different.” Keep collecting, trying, and discussing. As a gateway wine to old world wine, try rich full bodied wines from warmer vintages from Spain. Ribera del Duero and Priorat are good regions to try. Also some of the dry reds made by the port houses from Portugal. Those wines, in particular, will rival the biggest Napa Cabernets in terms of concentration and extraction.
Why does no one ever talk about Petit Sirah. I've found several delicious ones at very reasonable price.
I recently opened a bottle of the 1999 Tyrrell's Vat 1 Semillon. It was everything I hoped for - creamy, toasty brioche, honeysuckle and lemon notes. In the glass it showed a glorious golden hue.
We have a bottle of Batard-Montrachet by Morey-Blanc which we are saving for a special day. Thanks for another great video! 🥂
If I have a dual zone wine fridge and I’m using it for storing wines exclusively, should I set both zones to 12-17 C or should I keep the two zones at two different temperatures? Cheers!
Moved country recently… so not that many bottles left, but will look forward to g. Conterno barolo Francia and airone 2015/2016…. And my magnum chiara boschis cannubi 2016… cheers
I have a number that I am looking forward to drinking with friends and family some of which we were lucky enough to buy directly from the winegrower. These I really treasure. My daughter was recently 18 and we opened a 2003 Morey St Denis 1er cru which was lovely we then had a 1er Cru Volnay that was even better. I also have some very old wines that I look forward to trying. The trick I find is once a wine is over 50 years old, one shouldn’t expect too much, so when they are good the experience is even better. Thanks again Konstantin, as usual a great video. I also have a natural cellar and get a little nervous about temperature. Your advice helped as the peak last summer was 17 degrees. Thanks for putting my mind at rest.
2003 vines are very hard to find nowadays, I‘m glad my father collected some at the time...
Good video, and a point which needs to be made about wines past their peak. I have all too many; I use them to make ¨wine rice¨. Instead of water, use old wine. It tastes really good!
I recently had a bottle of 93 Monte Bello that was stunning. In my own collection I have a few bottles of the 2016 Mayacamas cabernet that I can't wait to have in the future, as well as the 2016 Chateau Canon!
I just bought a Monte Bello for my birthday as well as a T6 from Schrader. I really like the californian wines! The Monte Bello is a 2017 so it's quite young..
Cote Rotie Le Gallet Blanc
von Francois Villard
2009 bis 2018 je 3 Flaschen.
Mein Lieblings Wein 😁
I've got a bottle of Musar white 2006 and a Vin de Paille 2006 (which has been in my collection for almost 10 years). I'm always waiting for the moment to open up these babies. I recently bought a case of Móra recioto and will be aging them for quite some time.
I love white Musar, I really should buy it more often !
My wine cellar is at Specs. I go retrieve a bottle when needed.
a heitz marthas vineyard 82 and sainti biondi brunello 1998! lookling forward to those
I stock a lot of Viña Tondonis from the Rioja. Red, white and the rosé. O well. Everything from Lopez de Heredia.
The never drinker- 2016 Toasted Head Cabernet Sauvignon. This was the bottle that got passed on our wedding bus
There is no one great, rare or very expensive wine among approx. 200 bottles in my cellar. Supermarket medium-high level only.
15 to 25 €.
My point is to buy interested me wine, store it in cellar, wait for one-two-three years and drink at the optimal conditions.
Yes, mistakes are happen.
But generally, it works very well.
Dream wines in my cellar are Muga Seleccilón Especial 2014 and Vedernikov Krasnostop Barrique 2014.
What I'm most looking forward to is a tricky question. My collection is around 900 bottles so it varies from time to time what I'm most exited about. But at the moment I'd say 1970 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port and 2005 Domaine Fourrier Clos St. Jacques. There are also a few Rieslings and I'm always partial to Pichon Lalande (looking forward to when I get my en primeur order of 2020 vintage to complete the '18, '19 and '20 trio).
Sounds great!
Hi Konstantin. What's the make\model of that thermometer device you mentioned? Cheers
Just recently got bitten by the bug, so my collection is small compared to most, but the one I’m looking forward to the most is a 2012 Barolo by Paladino. It’s my daughters birth vintage so I bought it to drink with her when she turns 21. She’s only 9, but enjoys smelling the wine I drink (and has even enjoyed a sip or 2 I’ve given her), and even enjoys learning about it with me!
Very insightful. However, I would love if you could give specific examples of wines you believe are good value for money to include in a wine collection. I focus on great contemporary vintages like Southern Rhone 2016, Northern Rhone 2016, Barolo 2016, Brunello 2010 and 2016, Bordeaux 2009, 2010, 2015, 2016 etc. As for good value for money, Meyney is a good example in my opinion, but there are many more...
Great great topic. Collecting wine makes a lot of fun, but finding age worthy wine in not easy task without consulting and not cheap either. I store my wines in a stone built cellar in a house which I have from my grandfather. It is dark, cold and humid. I have different wines there mostly my but also raising collection of wine from all over the world. I can’t list them because it’s private:).
I just discovered your channel a month ago and I think i have seen most of your videos in that time, love the content. However, i was wondering if it is possible to make a video about general rules of thumb of the storage time for different types of wines?
Besides the storaging topic... What are your thoughts on the effects of movement and shaking during transportation? Do they affect the wines? I talked to people that put the wines into their cellar for a couple of weeks or months to let the bottles rest. They say that all the shaking has a negative impact on the taste, especially during warmer times.
I always struggle with this theory as the wine gets swirled and shaken in the glas or decanter anyways...
Hi Konstantin,
Thank you for all those great videos
For me it’s the 1986 Léoville Las Cases, I bought a few bottles 30 years ago when I started buying wines and the prices were still reasonable.
Thanks!
Alain Chabanon 'Le Merle Aux Alouettes' 2018.... Going to wait a while but should be great!
Waiting to drink some 2011 bottles of Dalla Valle Maya. Was told by last person who had that vintage to give it 6 more years... but just did a 1999, 2012, 2017 vertical of Jordan cab that was all amazing.
Great video! I have 2: Monprivato from G. Mascarello 2015 and Vosne Romanee Les Chaumes from Meo Camuzet (also 2015). Planning to open them i 2030 i believe.
Nice video, my celar has most good properties but the temperature is about 18-20°C. Do you think this is okay and how long can I store it on these conditions?
Humidity and Light are no problem.
For my birthday last year I went to the casino and won a few hundred dollars at the roulette table. I decided to buy a Caymus Special Selection from the year I was born that was almost exactly the same price as my winnings. I'm saving it for when I buy my first house. At this point, it's almost certainly past its prime, but it seemed like a meaningful way use it.
Great Story!
Another option that I think is worth mentioning is buying in bond/en premier and paying cellarage fees. I live in a one bed flat so keep a stock of what I will drink in the next 12 months or so and then bottles for the future with Lay & Wheeler and The Wine Society.
I just started my collection and it is quite small, but I am really looking forward to open the 2005 Chateau d‘Armailhac for Christmas Eve.