La forza del destino - 'Pace, pace mio Dio' aria (Anna Netrebko; The Royal Opera)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
  • Anna Netrebko as Leonora sings 'Pace, pace mio Dio' aria in Christof Loy's production of Verdi's sweepingly ambitious opera on war, religion, love and fate. Subscribe to our channel and find out more at www.roh.org.uk
    La forza del destino is one of Verdi's most ambitious scores. Its overture - which introduces us to the sinister motif signifying Fate - is one of his most memorable. The opera also contains some of Verdi’s most brilliant choral writing, including Act III’s stirring ‘Rataplan’ chorus, and several beautiful and intimate arias such as Leonora's ardent Act IV 'Pace, pace mio Dio!'. There's comedy too with the scenes for the greedy monk Fra Melitone. Christof Loy's colourful and spectacular production reflects the kaleidoscopic nature of Verdi's opera, where intense personal dramas play out against a background of war, and in which religion plays an ambiguous role.
    Verdi and his librettist and friend Francesco Maria Piave based La forza del destino on Ángel de Saavedra's highly dramatic play Don Alvaro, o la fuerzo del sino, and also incorporated material from Schiller's Wallenstein's Camp for Act III's military scenes. Following Forza's 1862 St Petersburg premiere, Verdi made extensive revisions to the score. The most substantial of these were a new overture, and a less melodramatic ending, in which Don Alvaro remained alive rather than committing suicide. The revised Forza, the version best known today, had its premiere on 27 February 1869 at La Scala, Milan.

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  • @RoyalBalletAndOpera
    @RoyalBalletAndOpera  3 месяца назад

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  • @bevsoprano
    @bevsoprano 8 месяцев назад +26

    I LOVED this woman's voice for a long time. Clear, beautiful sound, incredibly relaxed control, true legato. Then, she began singing completely unsuitable roles. Now she's not even singing on pitch because her technique is gone. She couldn't possibly have a legitimate teacher or coach telling her to do this, so I fear she is the one making bad decisions, and she is ruining her voice. What a shame. Being around the age of fifty also means there's less chance of salvaging her technique and repairing the damage.

    • @JsWorldOfOpera
      @JsWorldOfOpera 5 месяцев назад

      Let's hear your rendition!

    • @bevsoprano
      @bevsoprano 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@JsWorldOfOpera, sorry, I retired from singing and teaching voice five years ago. That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. And I'm not the only one on this thread with this opinion.

    • @jamesnickoloff6692
      @jamesnickoloff6692 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JsWorldOfOperaEven those of us who can't sing have the right to an opinion about others who are professional singers. Come on. Anna has gone down, down, down.

  • @bkbkbk74
    @bkbkbk74 2 часа назад

    I love Anna. She is truly a unique artist. This is a great moment of music legend. Full of passion and emotions.

  • @helRAEzzzer
    @helRAEzzzer 5 лет назад +38

    I'm honestly confused by the comments here. I think this is incredibly beautiful and emotional.

    • @susanfilip2286
      @susanfilip2286 3 года назад +16

      Verdi is beautiful, there is no doubt, but if you have a clue about singing you suffer.

    • @antoniomarcelo4423
      @antoniomarcelo4423 Год назад +2

      Some people go to the opera for the full experience, other just to enjoy solely the singing. We need to go to the real definition of opera as an art form to understand both sides. Sometimes is better to be less "knowledgeable" to enjoy an opera performance.

  • @jiangshangrong
    @jiangshangrong 4 года назад +13

    Usually when I listen to singing on RUclips, if I meet a singer I don't like, I will leave quickly. Order at most one dislike. See the comments here. Things become very strange when almost everyone has an exaggerated negative voice. I'm sure this was arranged!
    Anna is one of my favorite contemporary singers. I love Tebaldi, Callas, Caballe, Freni ..... I listen to their recordings at home-almost none of them are alive, (by the way, even Callas was not appreciate .... it doesn't exist the perfect singer). But in the opera house, Anna is currently the sound I expect. She sings well here! I really like it! If you don't like it, I ask you to give an audition at Royal Opera House so that you can replace her! Please! just go to do this, let me listen how great you are! If you can't, Shut up and go away from here.

    • @angelpink1409
      @angelpink1409 3 года назад +1

      The audience have every right to judge her voice. We're supposed to do that. Not being to sing as well as her doesn't mean we have keep silence and let her horrifying voice destroys opera. It's you who needs to shut the f up and get outta here.

    • @ТатьянаВасильевна-ъ9д
      @ТатьянаВасильевна-ъ9д 3 года назад +3

      Bravo!!!!!!!!!!

  • @vitliia6642
    @vitliia6642 5 лет назад +27

    Хочется пожелать Анне не исполнять арии,которые совершенно не подходят её голосу.А голос у Анны- лирическое сопрано, но никак не драматическое,как бы ей этого не хотелось.

  • @MrSwifts31
    @MrSwifts31 5 лет назад +210

    She is on her way to becoming a baritone!

    • @andyschnabel5225
      @andyschnabel5225 5 лет назад +10

      hahahaha:)

    • @alexxseeman
      @alexxseeman 5 лет назад +35

      A Paradox 😂😂 and singing totally out of tune! I have only one question : why ROH post this?

    • @karenupton3445
      @karenupton3445 5 лет назад +2

      A Paradox 🤣

    • @gabrielfrota4190
      @gabrielfrota4190 5 лет назад +21

      And without any chest voice well developed.

    • @inspectorachundia1
      @inspectorachundia1 5 лет назад +34

      Please don't insult the baritons

  • @katharinahaberl3247
    @katharinahaberl3247 4 года назад +23

    Anna Netrebko has given countless amazing performances and became famous with her "Violetta" in La Traviata. I agree with many comments that this was not her best performance and she was probably having a really bad day - but still good enough for the Royal Opera House to put it on their RUclips channel :) Anyone who is a professional singer knows how hard it is to sing amazingly every single time you're on stage. So, it would be awesome if those of you who know what it takes to sing at her level, acknowledge that this is a one time performance and doesn't reflect on her abilities to sing. Yeah, we all have our opinions and are entitle to hate this performance. But she has done great things and has made it very far in this business.

    • @jamesnickoloff6692
      @jamesnickoloff6692 7 месяцев назад

      She had great natural potential, but--to me at least--she does not have the "heart" to be great. She's all show, no soul.

  • @brunildehita8714
    @brunildehita8714 4 года назад +28

    Pacce mio dio!!!!!!!!!
    Non si capisce piu niente di questo mestiere! Povera lirica🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @michelegiovetti6678
      @michelegiovetti6678 3 года назад +2

      Vai tu a cantare, dai!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @hugoaragor967
      @hugoaragor967 3 года назад +1

      E cosi. non si capisce nulla!!!!!

    • @operabilia
      @operabilia 3 года назад +2

      All'inizio, la voce c'era, e che voce. Ora: fa schifo. E la lirica? Colpa ai stronzi di registi che non ne sanno nulla, ne di voci, ne di musica! E scemi direttori di teatro! Triste!

  • @z.h.a.t8964
    @z.h.a.t8964 5 лет назад +122

    she killed it...as in killed the aria dead...i was just listening to rosa ponselle’s version over and over the other day and to go from the memory of that...to this...

    • @mmjhcb
      @mmjhcb 5 лет назад +19

      I totally agree. Hard to imagine what Ponselle would say about this. "Shut it off! Shut it off!" would be my guess.

    • @operabilia
      @operabilia 3 года назад +9

      How would you compare Dom Pérignon champagne with kitchen Russian wine?! LOL

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      @keatonaiden819 3 года назад

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      I was stupid forgot the password. I love any assistance you can offer me

    • @theojoziah4598
      @theojoziah4598 3 года назад

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    • @keatonaiden819
      @keatonaiden819 3 года назад

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  • @evaalberternst4627
    @evaalberternst4627 4 года назад +9

    Why all the bad comments? ;) She is bringing her voice to a next level. ;)

  • @giorgioan4673
    @giorgioan4673 4 года назад +23

    Yes, she has inaccuracies here. But she rethought this aria. In her performance this is not a “beautiful melody”, but it is an aria of a deadly tired and exhausted woman. Today she is one of the few singers who understands what she is singing. Her piano at 3:00 is surprisingly psychologically colored. Of course, this is not quite her repertoire, but she is an absolutely accomplished artist and has the right to a creative search.

  • @IvelinaDobreva
    @IvelinaDobreva 5 лет назад +31

    It didn't seem to me as horrendous as people say. Then I got curious about how it should be sung because of the amount of negative comments. I listened to Maria Callas's performence over and over again. And now here again... I really think that this performance is not what it should be.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 года назад +4

      Absolutely!

    • @ChickenCastleQQ
      @ChickenCastleQQ 3 года назад +1

      Check gre brouwestein

    • @operaperu
      @operaperu 2 года назад

      Dont please. Maria Callas was not a perfect singer. If you want technique, search for leontyne price or Montserrat caballe in this role. Callas was good, but extremely overrated by fans and enthusiasts. She was like a movie star when alive, so a lot of people feel they are taken seriously for praising her. Searh for other many good singers, they are lots....

    • @operaperu
      @operaperu 2 года назад

      forgot to mention Aprile Millo! try her!

    • @MissAlexia
      @MissAlexia 2 года назад +1

      @@ChickenCastleQQ callas was everything not true at all best singers and conductors in the world praise Callas And she gave everything to opera you feel when she sings and early callas has best perfect

  • @emilyevans4176
    @emilyevans4176 3 года назад +6

    Anna is a good singer but how can one sing Adina and Musetta and then sing Leonora. She’s a lyric/coloratura/soubrette like Diana Damrau and not a spinto/dramatic. Anna and all singers for that matter should stick to their fach for their vocal health if nothing else.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 3 года назад

      This obsession with fach has gotten ridiculous . What determines whether a singer can sing a role are technical demands like range,tessitura,agility,singing against the orchestra ,and stylistic demands like understanding the period . A reductionist fach label isn't going to help.Lucrezia Bori used to sing La Boheme and La Traviata,but no La Sonnambula or Lucia di Lammermoor . Lily Pons used to sing Lucia and La Sonnambula,but no La Boheme . Kraus used to sing Manon and Werther but no Puccini ,not even light Puccini

  • @jorgeperera3816
    @jorgeperera3816 5 лет назад +29

    Poor Verdi

  • @Slaptothefuture
    @Slaptothefuture 5 лет назад +79

    how is she not booed off the stage? has everyone lost their sense of hearing? what is this monstrosity... this BLASPHEMY TO ART?

    • @karenupton3445
      @karenupton3445 5 лет назад +9

      Pourya azizi Sadly, so many opera ‘patrons’ couldn’t actually give a shit about opera. There are so many corporate boxes. They also don’t give a shit about opera.
      It’s simply an exercise in being seen in the opera house and, most particularly, at performances with the biggest names.
      These putzes would have no idea if Netrebko was supposed to sound like that.
      Most of them would not even notice if she sang her grocery list - and that not in a good way.

    • @andyschnabel5225
      @andyschnabel5225 5 лет назад +6

      Covent Garden, once witnessed the like of Melba, Caruso, Destinn, Muzio, Tetrazzini, Flagstad, Melchior, Zanelli, Gigli, Callas, etc. now hosts this swine whose "singing" is unbearably vulgar (that is if you could understand a word from her mouth) and constantly off-pitch. Yes, this is blasphemy to art.

  • @wewper
    @wewper 3 года назад +14

    It's hard to figure out why the Royal Opera House thought to post this, except as a tale of caution to singers who overreach when they never even had the goods to begin with, and now their lack of technique and discipline are catching up with them.

    • @wewper
      @wewper 3 года назад +4

      The second, first, and third pace's are horrifying, in that order.

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 6 месяцев назад +2

    She sings some absolutely beautiful phrases, and then comes an appalling phrase, then a beautiful phrase, then appalling. I need seasickness pills.

  • @operaperu
    @operaperu 2 года назад +42

    i heard this live in concert. Not as bad as sounds here, thatre resonance help to mask the flaws on voices like this. Still, in a world where Bocelli is considered one of the best tenors ever....go figure....

    • @maestromuffin1
      @maestromuffin1 9 месяцев назад +4

      c'mon, no opera lover thinks Bocelli is a great tenor - he's for the masses. and if he wasn't blind, he would have no career.

  • @michelez3710
    @michelez3710 5 лет назад +60

    Do us all a favour and get yours hands off this beautiful music!! Vergogna! Povero Verdi!

    • @jackclaxton9524
      @jackclaxton9524 5 лет назад +5

      You clearly have no ear for opera. May I suggest that you try Justin Bieber? I'm informed that he sounds great if you are tone-deaf.

    • @michelez3710
      @michelez3710 5 лет назад +20

      ​@@jackclaxton9524 You're obviously new to opera. May I suggest that you try Verrett or Caballe first not to mention Tebaldi, Callas, Corsi, Easton, Nilsson, Muzio, Krushelnicki? If you do it and still consider Mrs. Netrebko's "singing" a legitimate interpretation then you clearly are the one with "no ear for opera".
      Speaking of "tone-deaf" at 2:00 "pace mio DIO" - is singing eflat (instead of d which is written) and messing up the rest of the phrase also a part of her wonderful interpretation? Definitely it makes her "unique" among those wonderful sopranos of the past. Is it the factor that makes her "sound great"? Or maybe it's her knodel and hollow sound. Tell me. I'm really curious.
      Have a good day.

    • @jackclaxton9524
      @jackclaxton9524 5 лет назад +2

      @@michelez3710 : I'm familiar with Verrett, Caballe et al. With the exception of Callas, I consider their performances either insipid or clinical to the point of detraction.
      There is no opera singer in the world that is on key 100% of the time. Indeed, off-pitch is a valuable part of interpretation. If you have a problem with this, then maybe you should rather listen to techno-music, where perfect pitch is ensured by electronics.
      I'd venture a guess that, if measured continuously over time, Callas was probably much more off-pitch than Netrebko. Anally retentive people such as you hounded Callas to death because of this.
      That there are people capable of much more sophisticated powers of discrimination than yours willing to have paid 7000 US$ for a single ticket to hear Netrebko sing this particular performance should perhaps encourage you to re-evaluate your competencies - which, frankly, says much more about you than about Netrebko. She will survive your criticism, no doubt.

    • @michelez3710
      @michelez3710 5 лет назад +19

      ​@@jackclaxton9524 You're absolutely right. Anna Netrebko possesses a wonderful talent, voice, taste and you can understand virtually every word she sings in Italian. ;) The singers I've previously mentioned are utterly tasteless and have no voice at all, especially Emilia Corsi, Claudia Muzio, Celestina Boninsegna, Salomea Krushelnitzka, Florence Easton. Composers and conductors like Puccini and Toscanini were cretins who worked with and promoted talentless, "insipid and clinical" pseudoartists like those singers mentioned above. The audience 100 years ago and back were completely dumb and incompetent, contrary to the audience nowadays. Ah! And they had no culture at all so they booed every good singer (like Netrebko, Kaufmann e la compagnia) and applauded the bad ones. Thanks god we got rid of that disgusting custom, so we can enjoy fantastic, talented people in silence (literally, as we don't hear singers anymore - we don't need to), without interference by those animals. Furthermore people in general had inferior taste to the one we have nowadays ie they dressed up in an absurd fashion, they built mostly ugly buildings (unlike today), they painted ugly pictures (unlike contemporary talented artists), they composed ugly and dull operas (unlike today's masterpieces - that is the reason why no theatres play those dumb operas any longer), they wrote poor literature for illiterate morons. Regarding your money argument: Back then nobody paid singers a penny for their horrible interpretations. They performed for free for the entertainment of those idiots.
      Finally someone spoke the truth about those disgusting "legends" of the past! Viva Netrebko! ;D

    • @manolis.799
      @manolis.799 5 лет назад +13

      Jack Claxton Callas more off pitch than Netrebko?
      If Callas EVER sang anywhere CLOSE to this bad and off pitch in her entire career she would’ve been eaten alive, yet Netrebko gets a pass... why? What a joke...

  • @voilosapete4731
    @voilosapete4731 5 лет назад +57

    Is she even trying?! Her “s” sounds louder than her actual voice

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze 4 года назад +32

    Where is Rosa Ponselle when one needs her most? Ay, ay, ay, ay...

    • @operabilia
      @operabilia 3 года назад +3

      Then yes, listen to Tebaldi!

    • @BellaFirenze
      @BellaFirenze 3 года назад +5

      @@operabilia I did. Twice. In the opera house. Una voce d'angelo. Tebaldi è accigliata dal cielo ascoltando il soprano russo. Orrore!

    • @operaperu
      @operaperu 2 года назад +1

      Ded

  • @salstiha
    @salstiha 5 лет назад +83

    Terribile. Voce ingolata, vibrato eccessivo, emissione troppo pesante. Acuti disastrosi. "Fatalità "è la conferma che non sa cantare e ha rovinato un'aria meravigliosa.😠😠😠

  • @contraltissima
    @contraltissima 5 лет назад +123

    so bad, so bad, so sad that this is called singing opera these days. not in tune, constricted and collapsed, small sounding, no low notes, a hollow sound. and of course all miked.

    • @bertcarter6176
      @bertcarter6176 5 лет назад +17

      Completely agree! This was simply abysmal in every respect.

    • @JohnHyland2
      @JohnHyland2 5 лет назад +15

      Fritz you are so right unfortunately...

    • @PamelaFlitton
      @PamelaFlitton 5 лет назад +6

      contraltissima Say what you like about her voice, but this was not miked, other than for the live recording. I was there on the night of this performance and for three other performances during the run, and none of the performers were ever miked. The ROH never allows miking, in fact I know of another very famous singer that no longer sings at ROH as they refuse to mic her. Anna’s voice definitely has imperfections but she has this amazing presence, and on the night her voice soared to the top of the house and sounded incredible..... she brought the house down.

    • @LaDivinaLover
      @LaDivinaLover 5 лет назад +1

      PamelaFlitton
      Pray do tell, I imagine it’s either Gheorghiu or Bartoli?

    • @PamelaFlitton
      @PamelaFlitton 5 лет назад

      LaDivinaLover I couldn’t possibly reveal! But just let me say that Gheorghiu still performs regularly at ROH so it is not her 😉

  • @cashelnd
    @cashelnd 5 лет назад +47

    One big mystery in all this is why The New York Times music reviews keep showering Netrebko's recent performances with praise. I heard her Adriana in the 2018-19 run at the Met, and it was deplorable, but you'd never know it from the press she received.

    • @elenawinellcomposer
      @elenawinellcomposer 5 лет назад +15

      cashelnd NYT reviews of the Met since the mid 80s have never been critical. Most likely $$ involved
      I saw the recent Traviata with Damrau and JD Florez (it was a disgrace to the audience, to Verdi, to the art of opera) and the only criticism the NYT review did mention was that JD Florez was "hard to hear at times"...it was so bad that people next to me were asking if their hearing aids were turned up enough, Nezet-Seguin was actively quieting the orchestra to allow his notes to be heard and NYT made it seem like it was no big deal...THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR WHOLE JOB TO BE HEARD OVER THE ORCHESTRA IF THEY CANNOT BE HEARD OVER AN ORCHESTRA WITHOUT A MICROPHONE THEY ARE NOT OPERA SINGERS

    • @mannail888
      @mannail888 5 лет назад +8

      That's why I didn't spend a single dime on NYT and any of its associated merchandise.

    • @lolawho8676
      @lolawho8676 5 лет назад +8

      Unfortunately nowdays music critic basically doesn´t exist. It is included in payed PR. So they write what your agnecy or company pay to write. Just horrible.

    • @LYBASHA
      @LYBASHA 5 лет назад +8

      It's the Times. You expect truth?

    • @gautama2009
      @gautama2009 5 лет назад +4

      cashelnd the explanation is simple - lots of money

  • @samstaggs9811
    @samstaggs9811 5 дней назад

    She’s fabulous ! Wonderful!!!

  • @Miyoshi186
    @Miyoshi186 5 лет назад +13

    Dios mio Anna que estas haciendo con tu voz. 😳😳😳

  • @jimntom1
    @jimntom1 5 лет назад +43

    Interesting to hear the cords stop phonating for a brief moment around 4:48, just before she started the descent.

    • @LaDivinaLover
      @LaDivinaLover 5 лет назад +15

      From NO as in ZERO breath support.
      The airflow wasn’t strong enough or continuous enough to keep the airway open so the cords snapped close.

    • @davidalbro2009
      @davidalbro2009 Год назад

      It might have also been from inflamed vocal folds from singing a role that is way too heavy for her.

  • @matteomarazzi2680
    @matteomarazzi2680 Год назад +5

    Non amo (ma proprio per niente) la Netrebko, ma devo inchinarmi al suo coraggio di eseguire il "maledizione" finale come è scritto, senza prendere fiato. Un coraggio che non hanno avuto le più celebri, gloriose e blasonate interpreti della storia.

    • @santi7616
      @santi7616 7 месяцев назад

      ecco !!!😊

  • @maxdub8373
    @maxdub8373 4 года назад +13

    Perché? Ecco la parolina magica.. perché.La fine dell'opera lirica ,come di tutto...consumismo sfrenato...in ogni campo...Callas Tebaldi? Un ricordo .

  • @barberlove
    @barberlove 5 лет назад +7

    is she miked? I can clearly hear consonant and breath having the same volume of vowels...

    • @LaFollissima
      @LaFollissima 5 лет назад

      Such a stupid question... OMG. Do you really think you could hear her on youtube if there was no mike somewhere ? Oh my. these trolls... They don't even know the job.

    • @Guidapf
      @Guidapf 5 лет назад +1

      Exactly. For it to become a video there has to be a mike somewhere. These folks are so full of hatred that they don’t even take a brake to think before writing some stupidity here. 😓

    • @barberlove
      @barberlove 5 лет назад +6

      ​ @LaFollissima @PedroGuida why are you so rude..? what is your problem? I was reffering to a mike she has on herself and not mike somewhere. Opera should be recorded with mikes in the room and not on a singer come on!
      it's clear that they are used to amplify the volume of the voice and not for recording reason, and if they do this it's not opera.

    • @Guidapf
      @Guidapf 5 лет назад +3

      barberlove you are right, I’ve been rude in my comment. I’m sorry.
      I’ve heard Anna live many times and I’ve seen her rehearsing and performing in a concert hall where there was no sound equipment as there wasn’t any recording whatsoever. She has quite a big voice for a lyric and the color of her voice is very, very beautiful. She is not miked at all on this recording, instead there are mikes on the stage for the recording and if you notice these modern mikes they capture pretty much everything, so that’s why you can hear a lot.

    • @armandoterron3637
      @armandoterron3637 4 года назад

      If you used distant micing, people then would complain that they SEE THE MICS. Distant micing involves other audio problems such as phase cancellation. Dead spots, etc. The problem is not the mic. It is the mixing pholosophy.

  • @ВальдемарКыш-ь3г
    @ВальдемарКыш-ь3г 3 года назад +12

    В темпе largo эту арию петь нельзя. К тому же её голос стал шататься.

  • @James-sh7kx
    @James-sh7kx 5 лет назад +35

    Modern opera directors have killed a lot of good voices. Search 24-year-old Anna Netrebko' s una voce poco fa, she did not try to do these kinds of aggressive "vocal masking", so don't blame her; for singers who don't wobble as required by these moronic opera directors, roles will never be granted.

    • @PensadorProfundo42
      @PensadorProfundo42 3 года назад +7

      YES! In her early days singing Il Barbieri and Ryuslan y Liudmilla she had a truly gorgeous sound, and her voice sounded much bigger than it does now. So sad.

    • @cliffgaither
      @cliffgaither 2 года назад +2

      James ::
      Anna Nebtreko ( some years ago ) ::
      _I know what I'm doing !_

    • @davidalbro2009
      @davidalbro2009 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just listened to it. Very mediocre. She was pitchy and lacked some agility.

  • @stephengoldman553
    @stephengoldman553 5 лет назад +11

    It is very sad most particularly for Anna who once was a fun, ingratiating soprano. Here she is out of tune attemting to join the ranks of Ponselle, Milanov, Tebaldi, and zPrice who once graced this part with such distinction. No dignity here

  • @SteveL2012
    @SteveL2012 4 года назад +27

    You could walk the Roman Army, slowly, through Netrebko’s wobble. She sounds like she’s 70. In the few passages where she slims down her voice, it actually sounds promising. But then the wobble, again.

  • @DanyelHawkes
    @DanyelHawkes 5 лет назад +28

    Is this the bitonal seasick version? How she manages to be at once too heavy and too stringent is beyond my comprehension.

  • @palashvictor
    @palashvictor Год назад +1

    What is wrong with her pitch , she’s singing the wrong notes

  • @alexlewis8891
    @alexlewis8891 5 лет назад +37

    What is the matter with “our Diva”.... I was never her fan, but,please... A student in the Concervatorie would sing better.

    • @PeterBrodie
      @PeterBrodie 5 лет назад +3

      Alex Lewis, my cat did a better job!

  • @Andrey.Zoege.von.Manteuffel
    @Andrey.Zoege.von.Manteuffel 5 лет назад +15

    Shame on the administration of Royal Opera House.

  • @Hako2004
    @Hako2004 5 лет назад +32

    She was obviously studying Shirley Verrett, but the pitch problems and swallowed tones continue to detract from some nice moments.

    • @johnrondeau8500
      @johnrondeau8500 5 лет назад +11

      Shirley Verrett had a long, distinguished and varied career there's no comparison. Verrett's diction was always exemplary and she never had a wobble. Poor Anna what happened?

    • @Hako2004
      @Hako2004 5 лет назад +7

      @@johnrondeau8500 Agreed. There is no comparison. Verrett was stellar. But she appears to have studied Verret's interpretation of this role.

    • @flannerymonaghan-morris1317
      @flannerymonaghan-morris1317 4 года назад +3

      John RONDEAU um...she became way too ambitious for her own good and started singing roles waaaaaay out of her fach.

  • @vinedosdonaines8375
    @vinedosdonaines8375 5 лет назад +9

    acting is much more than putting on a crazy face every now and then... Over Gesturing won't hide your voice problems

  • @Sir.Larselot
    @Sir.Larselot 3 года назад +5

    Lots of damage after some years of self-deception with wrong roles and tryings to push her voice. Overopened throat, swallowed voice, seriously out of tune and very wobbly. The crack was expectable. Very sad at all if i remember her wonderful singing in the 90ths and early beginning of this century.

  • @Danihogwda
    @Danihogwda 2 года назад +2

    As usual pushing herself to a repertoire she does not belong to… poor Verdi.

  • @IRStudiojewelry
    @IRStudiojewelry 10 дней назад

    Something is wrong. I am not professional, but to me - it is power of the voice

  • @tonio7367
    @tonio7367 3 года назад +6

    Sorry, this aria was not meant for her.......If Verdi could hear her from his tumb he would scream NOOOOOOOOOO she is better than this.........

  • @OLIVCHEN77
    @OLIVCHEN77 5 лет назад +111

    Povero Verdi

  • @davidvscalvim2836
    @davidvscalvim2836 5 лет назад +29

    When she is on pitch, it's by accident.

  • @djtsinopoulos
    @djtsinopoulos 3 года назад +8

    Who would think there were so many opera experts out there! A few decades of singing in the most significant opera houses in the world attest to her value and skill. If you don’t like her, don’t listen to her. If she didn’t know how to sing she wouldn’t be killing it for about 20 years already.
    Brava!

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 3 года назад +11

      Killing it? She's as flat as a pancake here!

    • @petersaunders6571
      @petersaunders6571 2 года назад +2

      She used to be great...

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 2 года назад +2

      You can hear she's constantly out of tune, though, right?

  • @testflight6781
    @testflight6781 3 года назад +7

    that is very bad and very sad, she destroyed her once flowing voice. Wobbling is intolerable, try to speed up video or slow it down, you will be horrified by how her voice uncontrollably shakes, her poor cords also started to emit some unpleasant hissy side sound, her pitch is all over the place, from the very beginning she is awfully pitchy.

  • @hugoaragor967
    @hugoaragor967 3 года назад +2

    Never liked her. Her impronta is not good. Here she is out of everything. She is not tuned!!!!!! what is this please!!!! Tony Tony what are you doing!!!

  • @contravoice
    @contravoice 3 года назад +8

    Terrible, simply terrible!!!!!

  • @dabi5144
    @dabi5144 5 лет назад +36

    If you hear carefuly you can hear Tebaldi rolling in her grave...

    • @dirkadriaan6019
      @dirkadriaan6019 5 лет назад +3

      Ja.....spinning!

    • @dirkadriaan6019
      @dirkadriaan6019 5 лет назад +3

      Not to mention Maria Callas!!

    • @mmjhcb
      @mmjhcb 5 лет назад +5

      Tebaldi? Rosa Ponselle just rolled out of her grave clear across the Atlantic to be next to and comfort Tebaldi.

    • @SteveL2012
      @SteveL2012 4 года назад +1

      Tebaldi was too gracious for that but there was surely some eye rolling in the audience. RO does such great productions generally then . . . there’s . . . THIS.

  • @ZygimantasA
    @ZygimantasA 5 лет назад +16

    Sorry but Verdi isn't for her. Check Urmana singing it for example. Netrebko is flat throughout.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 года назад +2

      Urmana isn't that great either. Tebaldi is MUCH better than both.

    • @carlabruscolini9877
      @carlabruscolini9877 4 года назад +6

      Actually, nothing is for her... Netrebko is not an opera singer at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!

    • @rthsec
      @rthsec 2 года назад +1

      Add to this her recent Lohengrin. She is not a Wagnerian soprano either. She once had a beautiful voice, but it's gone.

  • @josemanuelhernandez3072
    @josemanuelhernandez3072 5 лет назад +22

    I cant say for sure. But i am afraid she is microphoned in live performances, nowadays.

  • @Sam-tw3qz
    @Sam-tw3qz 4 года назад +4

    *In gola like always this is not for her is the worts version i heart it*

  • @testflight6781
    @testflight6781 3 года назад +16

    How interesting it is that big dramatic voices never touch light repertoire and don't try to sing Queen of the Night for example, but soft lyric voices constantly try to prove something and make mistake as Anna venturing into dangerous dramatic zone that ruins their voices. This performance is a disaster, although there was even bigger disaster from Anna recently when she sang Manon Lescaut of Puccini, awful wobbling, no more beautiful shiny voice she had. Compare this video to her past Massenet's Manon when her voice was soaring like a bird and sounded they way it should.

    • @arepo
      @arepo 3 года назад +1

      Dramatic voices do touch light repertoire, don't you worry.

    • @davidvscalvim2836
      @davidvscalvim2836 3 года назад +5

      @@arepo Yeah, those Lucias and Aminas Birgit sang... Unforgettable!

    • @arepo
      @arepo 3 года назад +1

      ​@@davidvscalvim2836 Is this your benign sense of humor? If so, I appreciate it. If not, read further. Giuditta Pasta premiered La Sonnambula, and she was called a dramatic soprano in her day. She also premiered Norma and Anna Bolena. All three roles were written for her. Callas did sing all three roles too. Sutherland too, and a few others. Of course just singing them isn't the real deal, HOW you sing them is the real deal. testflight confuses dramatic bel canto voice with big verista or Wagner stomper with no agility. You too, if your comment was in earnest, which I hope it wasn't.
      Queen of the Night isn't the beginning and end of all operatic singing wisdom. Neither is is the beginning or end of operatic exhibitionism, but it is operatic exhibitionism all right. Actually Queen of the Night is very easy for a soprano with good agility and excellent extension (and the extension needed in Mozart's day was less than today because the orchestra was tuned more than a semitone lower.) The trouble with Queen-of-the-Night-sopranos is they seldom sing anything else equally good. So, if you want a exhibitionist Queen of the Night, no problem. If you want a versatile artist however, who can sing the late XVIII, the XIX and the early XX century repertoire...

    • @mugrad25
      @mugrad25 3 года назад +1

      Joan was a fabulous Micäela.

  • @fabfaun
    @fabfaun 4 года назад +64

    I had to listen to Montserrat Caballe sing this and, yes, there is a difference. I think Anna Netrebko has pushed her voice over the years to the point of no return.

    • @soprano1176
      @soprano1176 3 года назад +1

      100%

    • @soprano1176
      @soprano1176 3 года назад +5

      She is a light, lyric and she pushed too much out of her Fach that is for sure.

    • @jimbuxton2187
      @jimbuxton2187 2 года назад +1

      @@soprano1176 she is a Full lyric. Not a light one. But yes I agree I think she's pushing her voice. If she just sang it with her natural voice it would be fine but.....

    • @alejandraeugeniaberlinvale2851
      @alejandraeugeniaberlinvale2851 10 месяцев назад

      Está pesando demasiado su voz! Por qué, si su voz naturalmente es hermosa ! Mal hecho, en mi opinión.

    • @santi7616
      @santi7616 7 месяцев назад

      the 4:30 minutes is sublime not even Callas o Caballe sings like that ,good for Anna ❤

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 4 года назад +10

    Unbelievably bad.

  • @juanjosedubal
    @juanjosedubal 5 лет назад +26

    I ask myself humbly, the one with the baton ... did he ever hear Verdi?

    • @karenupton3445
      @karenupton3445 5 лет назад +11

      juan jose dubal I believe it is the RoH musical director, Antonio Pappano, a monstrously overrated conductor.

    • @crazyorganist1609
      @crazyorganist1609 5 лет назад +2

      @@karenupton3445 of course he is

    • @karenupton3445
      @karenupton3445 5 лет назад

      @Crazy organist
      Forgive me in advance, please. I am ill. I was not wearing my glasses. I, plainly, have a dirty mind.
      But, I did smile at what I thought was both charming whimsy and refreshing honesty when I initially misread your moniker as: Crazy Onanist!
      For penance I will whisper one thousand Ave Marias. I shall also force myself to listen to all six minutes and 22 seconds of this post.

  • @ngatihine6072
    @ngatihine6072 5 лет назад +32

    How is she still singing in these places

    • @karenupton3445
      @karenupton3445 5 лет назад +7

      jonathon waetford The triumph of an excellent marketing and publicity juggernaut.

    • @freshquartet
      @freshquartet 5 лет назад +5

      jonathon waetford money

    • @kennethwayne6857
      @kennethwayne6857 3 года назад +1

      @@karenupton3445 Exactly!

  • @ariassongs
    @ariassongs 5 лет назад +11

    THIS IS NOT AN ARIA FOR HER VOICE AT ALL!!!!!! SHE IS TRYING TO BE SOMETHING SHE IS NOT! SHE DOES NOT HAVE DRAMATIC VOICE!!!! I FEEL SORRY FOR HER, WHO EVER IS CONSULTING HER, IS RUINING HER VOICE!!!
    THE WHOLE THING WAS VERY SUPERFICIAL!!!

  • @somateria
    @somateria 3 года назад +4

    Is this Saturday Night Live?

  • @Monnarchmonnarchy
    @Monnarchmonnarchy 5 лет назад +15

    What a music from the very begining and so wobble, awful "singing".

  • @armandoterron3637
    @armandoterron3637 4 года назад +7

    You have to sing with the voice you were given. You can not fake heft by singing as dark as she is. It sounds unnatural. The larynx never forgets. There are always consequences. Pay it now, or pay later...

  • @lolawho8676
    @lolawho8676 5 лет назад +38

    OMG! this is beyond horrible... Why does she sing these dramatic roles which are totally not for her subrette voice?! And who are casting directors and conductors to put this on stage?!.just sad and damaging to the opera in general... This vibratp, covering and darkening the voice, no line, horrible intonation, screaming without controle...wtf??? I go to listen Leontyne Price and Tebaldi to detox from this...

    • @monicatedesco7496
      @monicatedesco7496 5 лет назад +1

      Coincido. Este papel parece hecho a la medida de Leontyne Price :)

  • @donnajones6465
    @donnajones6465 3 года назад +2

    A terrible wobble on the first note.

  • @angelpink1409
    @angelpink1409 3 года назад +4

    What a trrriblissimo performance!

  • @callastoujours
    @callastoujours 5 лет назад +26

    Ouch!!! 5:08 That hurt! Wait, actually the whole performance hurts!

  • @lamb4mc
    @lamb4mc 5 лет назад +18

    her pianissimo Bb sounds like a trill! it can’t decide if it’s an A or Bb

  • @doGreatartistsgrowontrees
    @doGreatartistsgrowontrees 5 лет назад +54

    Flat and horrendous. Sounds as if articulating a bad case of indigestion.

    • @katharinahaberl3247
      @katharinahaberl3247 4 года назад +2

      she is actually sharp most of the time. Probably just had an off day.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 года назад +3

      @@katharinahaberl3247 No, this is normal for her. Just bad.

  • @feeniix6
    @feeniix6 5 лет назад +45

    Renata Tebaldi is spinning in her grave. This was not good.

  • @lordanychdressince2408
    @lordanychdressince2408 4 года назад +6

    Her voice sounds so UNNATURAL, so MANUFACTURED. Do people really enjoy her performances? I mean this is objectively bad when you compare it to Ponselle, Callas, Tebaldi, Milanov, etc.

  • @ms.chaewon9231
    @ms.chaewon9231 5 лет назад +41

    Modern opera singers love to constrict their voices. It sounds boring. Anna tries to darken her voice which makes it unnatural.

    • @earlmanzor560
      @earlmanzor560 4 года назад

      You cannot darken your voice unless you lower your larynx. So its really unnatural

  • @dikembemutombo6022
    @dikembemutombo6022 4 года назад +7

    How can Royal Opera House stoop so low as to invite an artist singing this bad? Are decades of prestige that cheap these days?

  • @theoperatripleaxel5417
    @theoperatripleaxel5417 4 года назад +12

    Terryble... And she is using a mic.

  • @brachio8695
    @brachio8695 5 лет назад +26

    Oh gosh...sorry I can't listen anymore

  • @МаринаСтруганова-н7д
    @МаринаСтруганова-н7д 3 года назад +6

    К сожалению фальшиво

  • @lungdoc
    @lungdoc 5 лет назад +37

    I have admired her work on many occasions but not this time.
    Every time she sings “ Pace”, I cringe. Off pitch for the most part. Some nice moments of course. Final notes sound good. Hopefully she will never sing this role again. Good luck with Turandot.

    • @irinagrimaldi4281
      @irinagrimaldi4281 4 года назад +4

      Elle est une soprano lyrique - et NON - dramatique ! Elle ne chantera jamais bien dans cette tessiture ;-(

  • @raaaaadja99
    @raaaaadja99 21 день назад

    One should not leave negative comments. So I'll just say I did enjoy parts where there was her voice reminiscent of it's former lyric beauty. Unfortunately, there were very few.

  • @adriand6883
    @adriand6883 4 года назад +17

    She sounds like she's got something stuck in her throat. Very irritating to listen to! 😖

  • @francobarzelatto6599
    @francobarzelatto6599 3 года назад +2

    Poor Pappano, he had to deal with this terribly off pitch singing, with no dynamics nor expression whatsoever.

  • @antoniomattiolipalma7229
    @antoniomattiolipalma7229 3 года назад +9

    Questa cantante , anni fa molto brava nel suo repertorio di elezione, attualmente mostra delle crepe evidenti nella sua voce che resta tuttavia sempre interessante. Occorre gestire con oculatezza il proprio patrimonio vocale!

  • @maaria4852
    @maaria4852 3 года назад +55

    Dear Anna, you are not a dramatic soprano!! Don't do it , please

    • @nicorizzo5402
      @nicorizzo5402 8 месяцев назад

      I think she's a spinto.

    • @dianemarie6650
      @dianemarie6650 Месяц назад

      Bonjour, j'aimerais bien savoir dans ce cas ce qu'elle est...
      Merci pour votre réponse

  • @aylango
    @aylango 2 года назад +5

    You are talking about an artist who has performed countless performances all over the world for 30 years and added countless works to her repertoire. Still she is best... You're just looking for her voice from the past, but neither Callas nor Ponselle have been fortunate enough to do so.

  • @operalover3966
    @operalover3966 5 лет назад +40

    STOP CASTING HER

    • @michelegiovetti6678
      @michelegiovetti6678 3 года назад

      Indivioso eh??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 3 года назад +1

      @@michelegiovetti6678 Perché invidioso? Che cos'ha la Netrebko di buono qui?!

  • @alfredoihldausend4093
    @alfredoihldausend4093 5 лет назад +22

    Wow. This lady is really out of tune....Believe God will not send any "pace" and close his ears!

  • @albertobrondani7128
    @albertobrondani7128 4 года назад +6

    Horrible!!!

  • @will7258
    @will7258 5 лет назад +12

    I’m not a fan of Anna but I cant hear anything wrong with her voice in this area. She is not Tebaldi, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's

    • @tinibari456
      @tinibari456 5 лет назад +2

      Is Tebaldi Caesar, and Anna Jesus? It's not that she's overall a horrible singer. Just not fit for singing this repertoire at all.

    • @indeserto
      @indeserto 5 лет назад +5

      there are some moments of beauty, but most of the time, the sound is out-of-tune, wobbly, swallowed, and the Italian very unclear. Just think of how much the lady is being paid to sing like this? if you want to hear a good perfromance of this aria, try this - it's a good "ear-cleaner": ruclips.net/video/NgvOq7XlkIo/видео.html

    • @j.vincent3625
      @j.vincent3625 Год назад

      Please God... give Tebaldi back to us! 😭

  • @Altonahh10
    @Altonahh10 4 года назад +45

    After 20 seconds I know this is not going to end well. I´m not here for bashing somebody but Netrebko is definitely the most overrated opera "stars" of the last 30 years. And the slow pace doesn´t help at all.

  • @JULIESIMONSOPRANO
    @JULIESIMONSOPRANO 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love this . She has so much heart. Was it vocally perfect? No, but I would take this any day over certain robotic performances. I think she sounds beautiful as well

    • @maximillian6222
      @maximillian6222 8 месяцев назад +2

      This role requires a dramatic voice she is lyric soprano with no coloratura at all ,its a demanding role with very hight strong notes, she is singing like a mediocre mezzo soprano she has no stamina nore the voice no technique the is only noise coming through her mouth when she sings the dramatic repertoire, she had to stick to her lyric voice

    • @jamesnickoloff6692
      @jamesnickoloff6692 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@maximillian6222 I agree with you entirely.

  • @terrycloth6380
    @terrycloth6380 3 года назад +2

    This is how NOT to sing,, bad technique, flat, phrasing is bad.

  • @evgmin2454
    @evgmin2454 5 лет назад +2

    Great description. Thank you.

  • @gianerajohn436
    @gianerajohn436 5 лет назад +79

    Garbage, garbage mio Dio

    • @TheRosahamburgo
      @TheRosahamburgo 5 лет назад +7

      Pace per a le mie orechie. 😥

    • @antoniopedrolisboa
      @antoniopedrolisboa 5 лет назад +11

      Hahahahahahahahahahajaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alfredoihldausend4093
      @alfredoihldausend4093 5 лет назад +10

      Garbage, mio Dio, garbage, mio Diiiiiiooooo....

  • @ingridnovoa7653
    @ingridnovoa7653 2 года назад +1

    The pitch is very irregular :( I didn't know she had problems with this...

  • @PeterBrodie
    @PeterBrodie 5 лет назад +16

    Why??? Why promote a singer who can't sing consistently in tune? Pace. The first 'pace' began roughly in tune, but only dropped a quarter tone from 'pa-' to '-ce'. The second 'pace' then started sharp, and I went sharpish for the 'pause' ..... then the comments. I avoid her at all costs - but got caught out unawares. Ah well, I've enjoyed a break of several months, and at least I can appreciate the reason behind the bad sound that floated towards my ears: AN...

    • @laurademilio4475
      @laurademilio4475 5 лет назад +1

      Peter Brodie another nobody that can’t make it in life trying to get attention. If you don’t like the way she sings why are you here listening to her. She doesn’t need you and her fans could care less what you have to say. She’s the best and she always will be and she’s a great person. Who has ever said that about you, I’m guessing no one thats why you’re criticizing her.

    • @laurademilio4475
      @laurademilio4475 5 лет назад +2

      Peter Brodie Is that your real picture. You have much bigger problems than Anna. Work on yourself it’s 2019 caveman.

    • @PeterBrodie
      @PeterBrodie 5 лет назад +5

      laura DeMilio, your personal remarks do you no favours. If you're able to enjoy off-key singing, lucky you! But being spiteful towards people who voice their distaste won't make you any happier. That's all I have to say to you.

    • @laurademilio4475
      @laurademilio4475 5 лет назад +1

      Peter Brodie Did I hurt your feelings?? Too bad so sad!! “I avoid her at all costs”. You aren’t rude leaving that comment. You’re ugly on the inside as well as the outside.

    • @indeserto
      @indeserto 5 лет назад +3

      @@laurademilio4475 I know, from previous experience, that there is no point in stating this, but your heroine-worship is as tiresome as it is ill-directed.

  • @user-jt4js7ed3e
    @user-jt4js7ed3e 4 года назад +3

    Где Рената?

  • @sd3470
    @sd3470 2 года назад +4

    Amusing, in a very sad way.

  • @AM-xy6xk
    @AM-xy6xk 2 года назад +2

    Oh my god it's so bad I need to take a shower now.

  • @arepo
    @arepo 3 года назад +10

    Sigh. We have arrived at the point of no return, it's pointless to expect her to improve. The wobble will get bigger, the colors of various parts of her range will get weirder, and her understanding of Verdi will sink below... well I don't know below what, it's already pretty much non-existent.

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 5 лет назад +134

    Wobblissima. Offpitchissima. Ingolatissima. Meh...

    • @StickThreeNine
      @StickThreeNine 5 лет назад +10

      Hahahhaah your comment made my day. You're so right.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 5 лет назад +11

      StickThreeNine
      Had a bad day but she has gotten worse

    • @StickThreeNine
      @StickThreeNine 5 лет назад +11

      @@draganvidic2039 she is just horrible

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 5 лет назад +11

      StickThreeNine
      Yes now with the big wobble it’s intolerable...

    • @sthom4bad
      @sthom4bad 5 лет назад +2

      All opera singers wobble. That's what they do.