Love the sound of the split manifold on those old Chevrolet engines. Had this setup in my first car with cherry bomb mufflers. The deputy sheriff said not to let him see me again until I had mufflers installed and that cherry bombs weren’t legal. Pretty good and loud, sounded like taking two planks and hitting them together at resonant rpm with the 153624 exhaust
She’s sounding sweet. We used to call them twice pipes or true duels. My Chev was a 54 BelAir hardtop. I ran the old Corvette side drafts tri-power and true duels and moved the three from the tree to the floor. 520 14’s on Cragar SS and a heavy squat.
Hell yeah man. It sound wicked with the 848 head and manual trans now too. The only thing I would do different is put a small hole in the block off plate inside the manifold. It pops just a little too much for me when I'm off the gas
I need to do another video with the new motor. This was with the '51 235. Now it has a '58 235 with an 848 head and more compression. It sounds completely different but so much better
Looks good sounds great man , would have been cool if you showed how you had the split manifold that would have been coo too but great vid man keep it alive ..... good vibes from San Francisco California
I had a 1955 Chevy Belair with the 235 6 cyl engine in it. There is no sweeter sound than the 6 with split manifold with a set of glass packs on it. You can recognize the sound from a long way off. The great sound of the Chevy 6 when it goes through the gears, there is none like it. I like it so much better than the 8 cyl which sounds good too but the 6 beats it out for the sound. It really snaps.
@@diatonicdoug6525 thanks man. The motors from a '58 truck so it's full pressure. It's the same exact motor as a vette motor, I just had the stock intake, carb and manifold with a full split on it
@@ninja63639 lol. Yea but I was talking about the high pitch noise that makes it sound like the four cylinders that people are building now days, yours sounds good, i used to split the manifold in every way I could to get it to sound good, 3/3 ,2/4 , and 3/3 with one tube from the other side ran to the other so one cylinder could be heard through both sides, we used to do some crazy shit trying to make new stuff back in the sixties and seventies and most of it worked out great i have a intake that will fit your car that is made for one or two quadrejet four barrel carbs, it has to flat plate that bolts onif you just want to put one carb on it, or you can put a Edelbrock or holly on it but I ran it with two quad, s and I had a cam in it, i would turn the breather tops upside down and take off from a stop light and it would vibrate the big plate glass windows in the stores on main Street lol, if you ever want to put it on yours let me know and I'll send it to you, i would like to see someone using it instead of it hanging on the wall for another 30 years like it's been doing, i made it myself years ago
@coinslotsandjoysticks2572 Oh I gotcha. I feel like it's all in pipe diameter. I ran 2" straight from the split manifold to the rear tips. It definitely got rid of the raspy sound. I don't have this one anymore. I sold it and bought a '49 Ford club coupe but I definitely appreciate the offer. I just put a set of headers on the flathead and I'm gonna run 2" straight pipes to the rear on it also
I just looked around in my garage and I also have the big cam and lifters that I had in that engine to. The car got ran into and was destroyed in the early seventies and the guy who bought the engine just wanted it stock so I kept everything i had on and in it but it will make a sixer open it's eyes really quick with this cam and intake with a new Edelbrock 600cfm vacuum secondary. I mean you will think it's a v8
@@ninja63639 i love the old flathead v8 with straight pipes, we did many that way, i hate to think of how many kids came outside to play and the legs on their swingset had mysteriously vanished during the night, and the neighbors car was really loud and sounded awesome the night morning too. Lol. That's terrible but it happened, but we just used the ones that the kids were to big for swinging, we didn't use em from the ones they used lol
Why did your installer run the pipe under the oil pan? I had a split manifold on my 52 the pipes ran down the driver side then branched underneath and split at the crossmember to both sides in the rear. As I remember the manifold came from FOXCRAFT and Honest Charlie catalogs. That pipe running under the oil pan will be a PITA later on.
@@caddyman7725 for sure. Once you split the manifold it's three and three. You just have to find a good way to get from the manifold under the frame to the side of the car. This car was going into some driveways I would scrape the transmission crossmember so pipes under the frame were a no go
@@ninja63639 thanks I will. In Hayward California bay area this guy had a 1951 coupe for sale for $3.500 no engine shaved door handles changed to 12 volt disc brakes in the front no bumbers it did have the grill and all the body work was already done. Wasn't to shire if that was a good price for it what through me off was he took the door handles off have to push a bottom to open the door. I guess it would make a mild custom.
@@snoopu2601 Is he still selling it? If you dont want it I'll buy it and figure out how to get it out here. Ill make a deal with you. Buy it and I'll trade you my hardtop with the original drivetrain in it for the coupe straight up.
Great story, great video, thanks for sharing. A split manifold is the greatest sound on a six cylinder car. And you did just like me, you sprung for the CHROME Air cleaner. Just kidding, I love the video, and the greatest sound of a car. My wife’s Jeep grand Cherokee will never sound as good. I’m sorry but I have to hear that sound ever so often. That is why I edit so often!
2.5" is too big for the 235. I went with 2" so it would deepen the tone up a little but most guys go with 1.5" to 1.75". It has to go all the way out to the rear bumper too. Length of pipe changes the tone also
I meant to put 1 1/2 but it doesn’t sound the same could it be that the manifold split wasn’t done right? Because the pipes are all the way to the back
@@atzelarroyo6904 1.5" pipes will be more high pitched than mine. It's split 3 and 3 right? Is it a full split or do you have a crossover tube between the pipes?
Johnny Razo I took the oil filter off because one of the lines split and was leaking everywhere. Honestly I think it would be OK with it in place because the front line would be about centered between the 2 pipes
I've heard that too but it's not correct. The oil filter makes the gauge read lower pressure since the oil stream is being split off as opposed to just going to the gauge. The motor itself doesn't lose any pressure though
@@ninja63639 it's nothing special. The gasket was bad so I figured now'd be a time and engine to try it on. I'm putting a plate behind the front two cylinders and welding a 2in outlet to match the factory outlet and will run true duals.
Pee-Wee Rivera how were you able to put the dual exhaust system for the Fenton’s? The screws to connect the pipes to the Fenton headers won’t go threw all the way? Any answer could help
It did, didn't it haha. Wait till I get this flathead running with the 2" straight pipes. It'll sound even better Thanks for watching, my friend. I appreciate it
The real way to show off ur pencil tips BOZO is to drive it down the street turn around throw it in first step on it till u almost red line then let it go aso we can hear it purr loud and proud then park it set camera down in back YA BOZO and go rap the pipes hit the gas do u know what i mean
WHATESE SUR That was the original to thst car, low pressure 235 lol. I wasn't trying to blow that shit to make a video. Besides it was a powerglide so it didn't engine brake anyway. Know what I mean? I have a new full pressure motor in it now with a t5 so maybe I'll make another video
This has been one of the best sounding 235 on RUclips.
Thanks man I really appreciate that.
Love the sound of the split manifold on those old Chevrolet engines. Had this setup in my first car with cherry bomb mufflers. The deputy sheriff said not to let him see me again until I had mufflers installed and that cherry bombs weren’t legal. Pretty good and loud, sounded like taking two planks and hitting them together at resonant rpm with the 153624 exhaust
She’s sounding sweet. We used to call them twice pipes or true duels. My Chev was a 54 BelAir hardtop. I ran the old Corvette side drafts tri-power and true duels and moved the three from the tree to the floor. 520 14’s on Cragar SS and a heavy squat.
Thanks man I miss it alot. Hopefully the flathead in my ‘49 shoebox sounds as good if not better
>> true duels
That’s it, I’m going with straight pipes I’m my 38 master. Thanks for sharing
Hell yeah man. It sound wicked with the 848 head and manual trans now too. The only thing I would do different is put a small hole in the block off plate inside the manifold. It pops just a little too much for me when I'm off the gas
seems to idle fast,,,there you go it sounds awesome
I need to do another video with the new motor. This was with the '51 235. Now it has a '58 235 with an 848 head and more compression. It sounds completely different but so much better
It's been a long time since I heard that sound.
@@dennistennyson4540 I appreciate you watching. Check out my channel for my flathead straight pipe video
Looks good sounds great man , would have been cool if you showed how you had the split manifold that would have been coo too but great vid man keep it alive ..... good vibes from San Francisco California
Scroll through my videos man. There's a couple in there that show how I did it before I installed it
@@ninja63639 will do definitely
I had a 1955 Chevy Belair with the 235 6 cyl engine in it. There is no sweeter sound than the 6 with split manifold with a set of glass packs on it. You can recognize the sound from a long way off. The great sound of the Chevy 6 when it goes through the gears, there is none like it. I like it so much better than the 8 cyl which sounds good too but the 6 beats it out for the sound. It really snaps.
As soon as I did the duals my gas mileage tanked. I couldn't stay off the gas pedal
Sweet Belair. Sounds great. From an early Corvette? Still has babbit motor?
@@diatonicdoug6525 thanks man. The motors from a '58 truck so it's full pressure. It's the same exact motor as a vette motor, I just had the stock intake, carb and manifold with a full split on it
try fenton headers with two glass packs best sound ever
It probably sounds exactly like the split manifold doesn't it? This one has a full split, no hole in the plate
And it sounds awesome cause you didn't put headers on it, they make em pop to loud
Oh trust me it popped like crazy I just didn't get the rpm's too high in this video
@@ninja63639 lol. Yea but I was talking about the high pitch noise that makes it sound like the four cylinders that people are building now days, yours sounds good, i used to split the manifold in every way I could to get it to sound good, 3/3 ,2/4 , and 3/3 with one tube from the other side ran to the other so one cylinder could be heard through both sides, we used to do some crazy shit trying to make new stuff back in the sixties and seventies and most of it worked out great i have a intake that will fit your car that is made for one or two quadrejet four barrel carbs, it has to flat plate that bolts onif you just want to put one carb on it, or you can put a Edelbrock or holly on it but I ran it with two quad, s and I had a cam in it, i would turn the breather tops upside down and take off from a stop light and it would vibrate the big plate glass windows in the stores on main Street lol, if you ever want to put it on yours let me know and I'll send it to you, i would like to see someone using it instead of it hanging on the wall for another 30 years like it's been doing, i made it myself years ago
@coinslotsandjoysticks2572 Oh I gotcha. I feel like it's all in pipe diameter. I ran 2" straight from the split manifold to the rear tips. It definitely got rid of the raspy sound. I don't have this one anymore. I sold it and bought a '49 Ford club coupe but I definitely appreciate the offer. I just put a set of headers on the flathead and I'm gonna run 2" straight pipes to the rear on it also
I just looked around in my garage and I also have the big cam and lifters that I had in that engine to. The car got ran into and was destroyed in the early seventies and the guy who bought the engine just wanted it stock so I kept everything i had on and in it but it will make a sixer open it's eyes really quick with this cam and intake with a new Edelbrock 600cfm vacuum secondary. I mean you will think it's a v8
@@ninja63639 i love the old flathead v8 with straight pipes, we did many that way, i hate to think of how many kids came outside to play and the legs on their swingset had mysteriously vanished during the night, and the neighbors car was really loud and sounded awesome the night morning too. Lol. That's terrible but it happened, but we just used the ones that the kids were to big for swinging, we didn't use em from the ones they used lol
Good clean manifold split. How much block? 1/2 or 3/4?
Not sure what you mean..? The manifold is 3/3, the rear suspension is 3” with 1.5” tall spring perches
Why did your installer run the pipe under the oil pan? I had a split manifold on my 52 the pipes ran down the driver side then branched underneath and split at the crossmember to both sides in the rear. As I remember the manifold came from FOXCRAFT and Honest Charlie catalogs. That pipe running under the oil pan will be a PITA later on.
When I got the exhaust done it had a powerglide so there was barely any room on the driver side of the motor
@@ninja63639 Now I understand the P/G has a lot larger case.
Yeah it was huge and weighed like 300 pounds
Sounds like it did have a welders touch , mybe try some Sea foam or marvels mystery oil . Hav fun
Cars long gone but thanks for watching
Hello a question just wanted to make sure if it doesn't have glass pack mufflers?
Just straight pipe?
Yep 2" straight pipes from the manifold to the pencil tips
Can you run a Chevy split six with Lake Pipes?
@@caddyman7725 for sure. Once you split the manifold it's three and three. You just have to find a good way to get from the manifold under the frame to the side of the car. This car was going into some driveways I would scrape the transmission crossmember so pipes under the frame were a no go
Sweet ride I like everything about it
Thanks I appreciate it. It's been changed up a little. Scroll through my other videos and check it out
@@ninja63639 thanks I will. In Hayward California bay area this guy had a 1951 coupe for sale for $3.500 no engine shaved door handles changed to 12 volt disc brakes in the front no bumbers it did have the grill and all the body work was already done. Wasn't to shire if that was a good price for it what through me off was he took the door handles off have to push a bottom to open the door. I guess it would make a mild custom.
@@snoopu2601
Is he still selling it? If you dont want it I'll buy it and figure out how to get it out here. Ill make a deal with you. Buy it and I'll trade you my hardtop with the original drivetrain in it for the coupe straight up.
Great story, great video, thanks for sharing. A split manifold is the greatest sound on a six cylinder car. And you did just like me, you sprung for the CHROME Air cleaner. Just kidding, I love the video, and the greatest sound of a car. My wife’s Jeep grand Cherokee will never sound as good. I’m sorry but I have to hear that sound ever so often. That is why I edit so often!
Are they just straight pipes? No mufflers or glass packs?
Yep 2" pipes from the manifold to the tailpipes
Sounds very cool! Thanks for replying!@@ninja63639
Was this car recently for sale on Facebook? I live In Maryland and I think I saw one similar for sale.
That it was my friend. A guy that looks like Santa Claus bought it and put stickers all over the trunk. I wanted to slap him when I saw it
I have a 235 engine with a split manifold like yours and it doesn’t sound the same what do you think it could be ?
It has straight pipes with 2 1/2 inch pipes
2.5" is too big for the 235. I went with 2" so it would deepen the tone up a little but most guys go with 1.5" to 1.75". It has to go all the way out to the rear bumper too. Length of pipe changes the tone also
I meant to put 1 1/2 but it doesn’t sound the same could it be that the manifold split wasn’t done right? Because the pipes are all the way to the back
@@atzelarroyo6904
1.5" pipes will be more high pitched than mine. It's split 3 and 3 right? Is it a full split or do you have a crossover tube between the pipes?
Christopher Spencer it’s a full split and it sounds like it has a silencer
Sounds good
Thank you sir. I have an 848 head on it now and it sounds so much better
Question what did you do to your oil filter housing? Did you add head shield to the oil lines going to your oil filter canister?
Johnny Razo
I took the oil filter off because one of the lines split and was leaking everywhere. Honestly I think it would be OK with it in place because the front line would be about centered between the 2 pipes
Ive heard with these inlines that the stock oil canister made them lose oil pressure. Just because the way its set up
I've heard that too but it's not correct. The oil filter makes the gauge read lower pressure since the oil stream is being split off as opposed to just going to the gauge. The motor itself doesn't lose any pressure though
Damn nice 👍🏽
Thanks man I miss that car
Z86 290 is this what you were covering halfway through the video?
Yup
Good job
Thanks
With out crosspipe ?
@@a.k.a.A.E.1 yeah man no cross pipe and a full block inside the manifold
Sounds good. What motor are you going to put in it?
Joe Valencia
I have a '58 235 to put in
Does anybody ever split manifolds 2 and 4 anymore?
It almost seems at that point you may as well not split it at all. Wouldn't they be different pitches and be different volumes?
@@ninja63639 I have no idea. I've never heard one. Both my uncle and college welding instructor say that's how it was done back in the 50s and 60s.
@@ninja63639 I got a Ford 300 I'm gonna do it to.
@@kylekenan2321
Nice motor. Post up a video so we can hear that bad boy when it's done
@@ninja63639 it's nothing special. The gasket was bad so I figured now'd be a time and engine to try it on. I'm putting a plate behind the front two cylinders and welding a 2in outlet to match the factory outlet and will run true duals.
2inch is cool i have 1 and a half with fenton headers on my 1950 chevy sounds like a Harley lol
Pee-Wee Rivera how were you able to put the dual exhaust system for the Fenton’s? The screws to connect the pipes to the Fenton headers won’t go threw all the way? Any answer could help
Gabriel Lopez. Mine were sloted through with threads to bolt on the exauhst flanges to the headers
Pee-Wee Rivera hey carnal make a video of your ranfla would like to hear it
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Great video! Any ideas how I can Split my manifold? What flanges did you use?
I used an elbow from a plumbing supply place and a flange from an extra exhaust manifold. I cut it off with a hacksaw
Lots to like here.
Is the manifold split 3-3 or 2-4?
Its 3-3 and with the 5 speed it sounds like a whole different motor
@@ninja63639 I've heard old guys talk about splitting them 2-4 back in the day but haven't ever heard the sound.
@@kylekenan2321
I've read about it but I cant imagine it would sound very good.
@@kylekenan2321 my father had a 216 split 2-4. They nicknamed it the green skeeter because it sounded like a mosquito.
@@tinymt haha that'd be funny and cool because it'd really stand out.
Is that the Fenton manifold?
Nah it's a split factory manifold with the new outlet in front of the original
who did your exhaust manifold?
MARCO DELEON
It was done by an Amish guy out here. I got the entire exhaust done for less than a set of Fentons
damn..looks good
Looks like 2 and 4.
Nah brother 3/3. I put a full block off plate right inside the heat riser chamber
@@ninja63639 >> block off plate
216 or 235?
It's a '58 truck 235
no mufflers?
No mufflers, 2" pipes from manifold to pencil tips fully welded
Stock manifold
Yeah. Check my other videos. It shows how it was done
Part 1:
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Part 2:
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@@ninja63639 thanks I'm going to run my inline until it dies the ill drop me in a procharge small block in my 55
nice! hard top
Thanks man
Sounds like a wwII plane lol
It did, didn't it haha. Wait till I get this flathead running with the 2" straight pipes. It'll sound even better
Thanks for watching, my friend. I appreciate it
To bad about the automatic transmission
What do you mean?
The real way to show off ur pencil tips BOZO is to drive it down the street turn around throw it in first step on it till u almost red line then let it go aso we can hear it purr loud and proud then park it set camera down in back YA BOZO and go rap the pipes hit the gas do u know what i mean
WHATESE SUR
That was the original to thst car, low pressure 235 lol. I wasn't trying to blow that shit to make a video. Besides it was a powerglide so it didn't engine brake anyway. Know what I mean? I have a new full pressure motor in it now with a t5 so maybe I'll make another video
Sounds good ! Looks like 20lbs of 💩in a 10lbs bag but sounds great!