When I started in 94 we used to play unsleeved in the school cafeteria and the moxes and lotuses were flying with the pizza sauce 😂 wild times. I still love playing sealed deck, and not having to sleeve. Feels so good
I would LOVE to see an “Anatomy of Card Advantage” Pretty Deece video. The way luck itself was broken down in that entire sequence between Nassif and Chapin was absolutely perfect. I’d kill to have another one of that caliber.
Problem is there really isn't some hallmark iconic example of card advantage like there is for luck. The reason that video is good is because the moment it's centered around is good. If it were centered around Joe Mama playing at their kitchen table it would've sucked. Also there is no climactic moment in card advantage to build up to. It would be a slow crawl over a dozen turns until we see one guy is winning because he has 3 cards and his opponent has 0. Wowee. Exciting.
It doesn't need to follow the same formula, in fact I think it would excel in a completely different one. There are so many nuances and little intricate decisions that impact card advantage in Magic that you couldn't possibly have it boil down to one or two iconic moments.
@@rickelmemonti1405 What’s keeping you from playing? Not interested (that’s okay, I’m just curious)? You could get together with a friend, and purchase an Arena starter for $10 or less/or heck, start with Arena Please don’t feel like you aren’t allowed to play, ever… unless you don’t have time for it, which is perfectly acceptable but unfortunate
@@SmuggyOcelot looking back at my comment not sure why i said "never did" play magic. i have played magic a little bit, mostly arena when it first came out. it's cool, but it just didn't draw me in as much as the other card games i really enjoy playing. those being, yugioh, digimon, and legends of runeterra.
@@rickelmemonti1405 hmm suspicious… kidding. I’m the opposite where I didn’t like where Yugioh was going. I mainly enjoy Magic and Flesh and Blood (even if I don’t really have a local scene for FaB) That’s okay though, everything isn’t for everyone, especially when it comes to tabletop games
This historical angle you've been taking has been awesome, as has the further step up the production has taken on the visual side. Really excited for this new series!
God, I hope Pretty Deece is just going to become a kind of History Channel for Magic. Top-notch script, engaging delivery, great editing with an eye for the most amusing and human moments of the subject: fucking love it. Thanks for another banger.
Pretty Deece is always awesome! The videos are so finely edited, and it’s always nice to listen to! I’d put them all the way up there with Rhystic Studies!
So happy you're getting the time & support to continue making these. Pretty Deece is right up there with Rhystic Studies as my very favorite MtG content on RUclips. Your level of detail, presentation style, and choice of topics are truly second to none.
God, these decks are like Midwestern emo mixes, making me nostalgic for a time I wasn't around for. It makes me want to care about being a fan of competitive magic.
As always, another excellent video. As someone who is still relatively new to the hobby you all do a great job presenting historical Magic information in an incredibly digestible manner. Looking forward to future episodes!
how crazy is that, just last week I stumbled upon a video talking about the history of competitive YGO right from the beginning and I was wondering if there was a similar video series for MTG... then I see this! Great video, loved the commentary! Hope there will be more of this content.
My daughter works at TCG Player , and i tell her about my getting into Magic , Neutral ground was the big sponsor around the northeast , i would even play at Tales Twice Told where Cheddy worked , i started around The Dark set but would soon be trying for pro tour events, i didnt do great but it was some of the most fun i have ever had in my life. My pride and joy of Magic the Gathering is 2 alpha and 2 beta lightning bolts signed by Richard Garfield
This was incredible. Thank you so much for this historical Magic videos. It's amazing how Wizards went from severely underprinting to severely overprinting sets. Jyhad, Richard Garfield's first game after Magic, was also overprintend and you could still find decently priced packs recently.
@@tcgplayercom Guilty as charged. The Eldraine one has become a new recent fave though, as one of a zillion people glad to never see a Stomp into Bonecrusher Giant into Embercleave in standard again.
15:20 - What you are describing there isn't really exponential. I think the term logarithmic makes much more sense. Even though they are kind of inverses of each other, I think logarithmic makes more sense for what you are trying to prove. That being that the early increases matter a lot, then later ones are less important.
Man, so much memories. I started playing back in 1994, and here in Spain the game was introduced first in Barcelona, because the owner of a local games shop went to a board games con in EEUU, and brought with him 2 boxes of Alpha, 6 boxes of Beta and 12 of Unlimited, and january 1994 we started playing 👏. And that same owner closed a deal with a retailer in new york to ship him away every new set coming out, 12 boxes of the game. Until in 1995, the game was franchised in Spain by a company (Devir) and then came regularly to the entire country. Those days was amazing as a teenager, playing Magic, D&D, Vampire, Warhammer, playing in benches in the street because the local shop was so small that we cant be more than 10 people playing inside. Playing at the local library too... I missed those days so much.
I find it funny that as a newer player, born and raised on commander, Jon makes me care about formats I otherwise would never even think about looking into.
Please keep these coming, I adore learning about the history of games and that bit about the side event almost pausing the pro tour is absolutely an amazing bit
Corrections on the format of booster draft and the PT2 booster draft format. Normal 444 draft is 45 cards (not 42, 15+15+15) because each 4th Edition pack is 15 cards, which you calculate correctly in the 44H you proposed (15+15+8). Originally, Revised draft was also 45 cards, same as 4th...only problem was there was basic land cars possible in both Uncommon and Common slots...that's probably why they thought they could get away with 38. In the LA/Orange County area, we had more sealed product than any other place in the Magic playing world, way more than Europe. And naturally, that play group was way ahead of the curve. Other US players also played well as there were stores all over that had cards since 1993 while Europe was just getting its first sets at the time, Italian Legends and Italian Revised. At our major play areas such as South Coast Games and Costa Mesa Women's Club, we played and practiced for Pro Tour Long Beach since it was local. Day 1, almost all of the non-US players scrubbed out.
@@tcgplayercom On a second note, my first cards were a booster of fallen empires. They may suck, but perma fogging Thalids will always be my favorite way to play. Did I have hymms and goblin grenade? Yes. But I didn't care. I had a million tokens and I wasn't afraid to count them.
Love these videos. Can't ask you to put more cards on screen just because I started playing in 2017, but I still appreciate the content. Waiting on some more.
Slight of Mind makes sense -- he's running 12 "knights" that have protection from black. Being able to flip the "black" to another color at instant speed could counter removal and make the creature much harder to deal with.
sleight of mind is an awesome card. i run it in alpha40 with circles of protection (in a deck that runs karma and magical hack as well) and it can be a bomb. its the only way to make a cop:black in the format and can also help deal with black knights (which have protection from wrath and balance in the format due to the quirky 'time capsule' rules of the format)
Dude, dude, you are a kindred spirit. I need you on my podcast. We're booked with guest hosts for a few months. BUT. I. NEED. YOU. SOON. Your style fits like Umawaza's Jitte in my slender hands.
You should do a video about the magic worlds championship from khans, when either the Swedes or the Dutch used duneblast to win it all! Love the content!
So nostalgic. These were the days when I was one of the more regular 'tournament scrubs' - showing up with weird jank and suboptimal decks because I didn't have the cards for the optimal versions and a bias against 'netdecking.' Falling one or two spots short of the finals, just close enough to convince me it was still in reach but never *quite* able to make the stretch.
This was super fun to watch! It gives me vibes of an MTG version of Jon Bois over at SB Nation. Are you guys planning on covering more years of the pro tours? It would be sick to watch the recap and history of each season, or even just some of the more notable seasons!
@@tcgplayercom Sadly got a first round loss. But went 3-2 overall with UR standard delver. Missed prize support, but totally worth the fun. Watching this video gave me a better appreciation of the community. Good stuff. Also need more Pretty Deece #IWANTMERCH
"Homelands, released in October 1995, is the seventh Magic expansion. It was the second expansion of the Ice Age block until July 2006," You neglected to mention Homelands was, for a time, part of the Ice Age Block.
I was 17, not 16! 😉
dammit. also, hi!!!
The legend arrives!
How can a comment so short get so much attention?
Hahaha Olle I use the art depicting you on sylvan safekeeper in my landfall deck thanks for always keeping my creatures safe buddy.
@@xx3uddhaxx Good to hear, good to hear!
All those unsleeved cards being loved and abused was peak magic.
fr
When I started in 94 we used to play unsleeved in the school cafeteria and the moxes and lotuses were flying with the pizza sauce 😂 wild times.
I still love playing sealed deck, and not having to sleeve. Feels so good
I would LOVE to see an “Anatomy of Card Advantage” Pretty Deece video.
The way luck itself was broken down in that entire sequence between Nassif and Chapin was absolutely perfect.
I’d kill to have another one of that caliber.
Problem is there really isn't some hallmark iconic example of card advantage like there is for luck. The reason that video is good is because the moment it's centered around is good. If it were centered around Joe Mama playing at their kitchen table it would've sucked.
Also there is no climactic moment in card advantage to build up to. It would be a slow crawl over a dozen turns until we see one guy is winning because he has 3 cards and his opponent has 0. Wowee. Exciting.
It doesn't need to follow the same formula, in fact I think it would excel in a completely different one.
There are so many nuances and little intricate decisions that impact card advantage in Magic that you couldn't possibly have it boil down to one or two iconic moments.
i think you should ask rhystic studies about that one
@@tcgplayercom yeah, I watch their content a ton
But something about the formatting and how you put together these videos is something special.
I see a Pretty Deece video, I like and comment for engagement. This content is the best, keep it up!
thanks
they remind me to order since I always tend to procrastinate buying my list
Best magic content being made these days and it's not remotely close.
honestly wish we had more competition
Oh man, another episode this soon??? Keep them coming! My favorite MtG series on youtube!
hey thanks
i actually don't play magic at all and never did, and still really enjoy this show
@@rickelmemonti1405 What’s keeping you from playing? Not interested (that’s okay, I’m just curious)? You could get together with a friend, and purchase an Arena starter for $10 or less/or heck, start with Arena
Please don’t feel like you aren’t allowed to play, ever… unless you don’t have time for it, which is perfectly acceptable but unfortunate
@@SmuggyOcelot looking back at my comment not sure why i said "never did" play magic. i have played magic a little bit, mostly arena when it first came out. it's cool, but it just didn't draw me in as much as the other card games i really enjoy playing. those being, yugioh, digimon, and legends of runeterra.
@@rickelmemonti1405 hmm suspicious… kidding. I’m the opposite where I didn’t like where Yugioh was going. I mainly enjoy Magic and Flesh and Blood (even if I don’t really have a local scene for FaB)
That’s okay though, everything isn’t for everyone, especially when it comes to tabletop games
This historical angle you've been taking has been awesome, as has the further step up the production has taken on the visual side. Really excited for this new series!
we live to serve
God, I hope Pretty Deece is just going to become a kind of History Channel for Magic. Top-notch script, engaging delivery, great editing with an eye for the most amusing and human moments of the subject: fucking love it. Thanks for another banger.
hey you're welcome
Even when the format is bad, I love seeing old tournament footage.
obviously, same
The soothing sounds of that sweet, sweet narration.
any day with a new pretty deece is a good day
that's nice of you to say
I've almost exclusively an EDH player for nearly a decade now, so pretty deece is a good insight to what happened in the formats I wasn't playing
Pretty Deece is always awesome! The videos are so finely edited, and it’s always nice to listen to! I’d put them all the way up there with Rhystic Studies!
So happy you're getting the time & support to continue making these. Pretty Deece is right up there with Rhystic Studies as my very favorite MtG content on RUclips. Your level of detail, presentation style, and choice of topics are truly second to none.
God, these decks are like Midwestern emo mixes, making me nostalgic for a time I wasn't around for. It makes me want to care about being a fan of competitive magic.
Truly this is the American Football of Magic.
@@hiimemily i'd say i feel similarly about jokulhaups as a i do about midwest emo and i'm not going to elaborate
@@methyod Nor would I ask you to. I understand exactly what you mean.
Well I was playing these cards and decks back then and trust me…it was awesome
As always, another excellent video. As someone who is still relatively new to the hobby you all do a great job presenting historical Magic information in an incredibly digestible manner. Looking forward to future episodes!
how crazy is that, just last week I stumbled upon a video talking about the history of competitive YGO right from the beginning and I was wondering if there was a similar video series for MTG... then I see this! Great video, loved the commentary! Hope there will be more of this content.
Pretty Deece has consistently been interesting and educational. Love your stuff
Easily the most quality channel for mtg on RUclips. Keep up the work you’re an amazing historian
If this becomes a series i'm gonna be so happy, old pro tours and standard decks are my jam.
Love the work you put into these pretty deece episodes. Keep it up Jon, you're doing gods work.
blasphemy
I started playing in Aether Revolt, so I am loving these "retro" videos focusing on the game in the 90s! Keep em coming :D
My daughter works at TCG Player , and i tell her about my getting into Magic , Neutral ground was the big sponsor around the northeast , i would even play at Tales Twice Told where Cheddy worked , i started around The Dark set but would soon be trying for pro tour events, i didnt do great but it was some of the most fun i have ever had in my life. My pride and joy of Magic the Gathering is 2 alpha and 2 beta lightning bolts signed by Richard Garfield
He signed my shivan dragon at the magic camp good memories
Solid vid, really fun seeing how magic (as a game and as a product) used to be compared to nowadays
This was incredible. Thank you so much for this historical Magic videos. It's amazing how Wizards went from severely underprinting to severely overprinting sets. Jyhad, Richard Garfield's first game after Magic, was also overprintend and you could still find decently priced packs recently.
Thanks for all the effort you put into these, always a watch priority when one of them comes out. Hope you can keep making them :)
I've been so glad to see Pretty Deece back, I would replay the Masks block and Phyrexian mana videos a ton. Thanks again for the quality videos!
so you're the one who's been running up the views on those
@@tcgplayercom Guilty as charged. The Eldraine one has become a new recent fave though, as one of a zillion people glad to never see a Stomp into Bonecrusher Giant into Embercleave in standard again.
Love pretty dece. Thank you oreo kid for making these videos. Always will watch and rewatch them for so long
you're welcome
Could watch these videos all day. Great work.
thanks
15:20 - What you are describing there isn't really exponential. I think the term logarithmic makes much more sense. Even though they are kind of inverses of each other, I think logarithmic makes more sense for what you are trying to prove. That being that the early increases matter a lot, then later ones are less important.
you're probably right, i suck at math. thanks for the hot tip
Excited to finally get these regularly again!
samesies
I appreciate the high quality analysis of something many people would never come across on their own.
Pretty Deece not having its own channel and patreon is a crime
Everytime a new Pretty Deece video is released my day gets way better.
same
I audibly gasped when I saw a new Pretty Deece in my subscriptions. I am so happy more of these are being made. Keep it up!
ok
This is awesome, I love watching anything about the history of pro magic and Pretty Deece does it best. Thank you Jon, thanks a lot.
Great Video! Comment for engagement and also to point out that it's great to see a well-made series with proper subtitles.
I haven't played Magic in 10 years but I always watch every Deece video. Top tier content.
Man, so much memories. I started playing back in 1994, and here in Spain the game was introduced first in Barcelona, because the owner of a local games shop went to a board games con in EEUU, and brought with him 2 boxes of Alpha, 6 boxes of Beta and 12 of Unlimited, and january 1994 we started playing 👏. And that same owner closed a deal with a retailer in new york to ship him away every new set coming out, 12 boxes of the game. Until in 1995, the game was franchised in Spain by a company (Devir) and then came regularly to the entire country.
Those days was amazing as a teenager, playing Magic, D&D, Vampire, Warhammer, playing in benches in the street because the local shop was so small that we cant be more than 10 people playing inside. Playing at the local library too...
I missed those days so much.
I find it funny that as a newer player, born and raised on commander, Jon makes me care about formats I otherwise would never even think about looking into.
awe
Please keep these coming, I adore learning about the history of games and that bit about the side event almost pausing the pro tour is absolutely an amazing bit
i will. thank you for being so specific with your feedback
Great video.
I was playing back in the early days and the nostalgia factor for this stuff just blows me away.
Real happy to see this. I was recently looking for old ProTour and World Championship footage and it's unfortunate how hard some of it is to come by.
"I would love to see games raised to the stature of intellectual sports"
*video of man holding swamp upside down*
I'm in the middle of the fallen empires skit and god what did we do to deserve such a great video.
I played in the late 90's and early 2000's. It was amazing. Miss those days sometimes.
i own all the gold-bordered decks and played with them a lot and i can safely say that you have amnesia
@@tcgplayercom Definitely not. I'll just keep enjoying PreModern with my fellow middle aged players.
@@tcgplayercomI have them too and they rule. I’d rather play 93/94 than current standard, myself.
Omg raw shuffling duals 😩
quickly becoming this channel's specialty
Pretty Deece is the content I look forward to the most. I always get unreasonably excited when I see an upload.
thank you for the kind words laserface
Corrections on the format of booster draft and the PT2 booster draft format. Normal 444 draft is 45 cards (not 42, 15+15+15) because each 4th Edition pack is 15 cards, which you calculate correctly in the 44H you proposed (15+15+8). Originally, Revised draft was also 45 cards, same as 4th...only problem was there was basic land cars possible in both Uncommon and Common slots...that's probably why they thought they could get away with 38. In the LA/Orange County area, we had more sealed product than any other place in the Magic playing world, way more than Europe. And naturally, that play group was way ahead of the curve. Other US players also played well as there were stores all over that had cards since 1993 while Europe was just getting its first sets at the time, Italian Legends and Italian Revised. At our major play areas such as South Coast Games and Costa Mesa Women's Club, we played and practiced for Pro Tour Long Beach since it was local. Day 1, almost all of the non-US players scrubbed out.
It is fascinating learning about the game's history that happened way before my time.
Yes. Keep this kind of content coming. Magic history is super cool
it really is
@@tcgplayercom On a second note, my first cards were a booster of fallen empires. They may suck, but perma fogging Thalids will always be my favorite way to play. Did I have hymms and goblin grenade? Yes. But I didn't care. I had a million tokens and I wasn't afraid to count them.
YAY! Thank you all for the steady stream of Pretty Deece!
As long as you keep making Pretty Deece, I'll keep watching it. Great as always.
The only series I actually press like on every time because I want to see more
what about nikachu
It was called Type 2, which became a variation of standard, and then there was type 1 and type 1.5
Pretty Dece is one of my favorite bits of MTG content. Love it.
This series got me hooked on magic, ty for another awesome video.
best magic the gathering content on youtube full stop. seriously no one makes videos about the game as a whole like you
This was awesome. Thanks, my dude. Time to put in an order for some more cards.
That whole thing with the store owner, the kid, and the sales rep made me cry with laughter. Holy shit.
it’s pretty simple, when you see pretty deece, you drop EVERYTHING to watch pretty deece
don't drop a baby
The little touches in this video are fantastic. The cards used to represent Urza block were great.
First five minutes of this video is some of the best MTG content I've EVER seen. Keep it up!
This was an amazing video. It's so cool to see how similar Magic was back then, to now!
I need more of this. Much more.
I literally stopped halfway in this video; saving it for tomorrow’s dinner 😂
bon appetit
TCGplayer thanks!
just finsihed watching all your pretty deece vids. thank you very much for the informative content which is fun to watch!
I wish this was its own channel instead of videos that come out on a sporadic basis. I really enjoy the narrative side of the competitive game.
Love these videos. Can't ask you to put more cards on screen just because I started playing in 2017, but I still appreciate the content. Waiting on some more.
Another top notch video. I love the tiny minutia that you get into in your videos.
As always, more please.
ok
these videos are why i'm subscribed to this channel, please keep it up!
YESSS PRETTY DEECE. This made my week. Thank you sir
you're welcome
Slight of Mind makes sense -- he's running 12 "knights" that have protection from black. Being able to flip the "black" to another color at instant speed could counter removal and make the creature much harder to deal with.
sleight of mind is an awesome card. i run it in alpha40 with circles of protection (in a deck that runs karma and magical hack as well) and it can be a bomb. its the only way to make a cop:black in the format and can also help deal with black knights (which have protection from wrath and balance in the format due to the quirky 'time capsule' rules of the format)
Dude, dude, you are a kindred spirit. I need you on my podcast. We're booked with guest hosts for a few months. BUT. I. NEED. YOU. SOON. Your style fits like Umawaza's Jitte in my slender hands.
i’m not hard to find
You should do a video about the magic worlds championship from khans, when either the Swedes or the Dutch used duneblast to win it all! Love the content!
Always some of the best quality videos for mtg
What a wonderful history look back. I owe you a drink and/or a duel in the format of your choice good sir
chocolate milk/battlebox
Pretty Deece is one of the few video releases I look forward to
oh my goodness gracious more pretty deece!!!! my favorite magic videos of all forever
So nostalgic. These were the days when I was one of the more regular 'tournament scrubs' - showing up with weird jank and suboptimal decks because I didn't have the cards for the optimal versions and a bias against 'netdecking.' Falling one or two spots short of the finals, just close enough to convince me it was still in reach but never *quite* able to make the stretch.
This was super fun to watch! It gives me vibes of an MTG version of Jon Bois over at SB Nation. Are you guys planning on covering more years of the pro tours? It would be sick to watch the recap and history of each season, or even just some of the more notable seasons!
Man I would buy the hell out of some pretty deece merch
preach
Amazing video, great amount of research done here.
I know you said 📼 but is that original footage of the 1st PT online anywhere?
yes
I love the Pretty Deece series. Please keep making them
This was brilliant to see. Thanks.
you're welcome
you're welcome
21:38 - Lol, there is a sleight of mind in the maindeck too. That must have felt pretty bad every time he drew that.
For context as to why Tom ran Sleight, it's because Anarchy was a 3-4 of in red decks. One-sided board sweeps suck I believe.
As someone born in massachusetts, i love that a massachusetts guy won the first ever pro tour
this is god content, if thre is more like tihs for history or mtg in pro play, comp or just mtg in general id love to view more!
I just love these videos.
These videos are absolutely amazing
Wooo, I love these, keep em coming!
Feeding the algorithmosaurus. Excellent work as always.
By the way, Wizards calls PT2 as PT Los Angeles. Back in 1996, it was called Pro Tour Long Beach.
This is an awesome video. Holy smokes
I am going to be late to FNM because of this video... but it's alright! Great video as always! Gotta go!
i bet if you call and tell them you're gonna be late because you were watching youtube they'll hold the tournament for you
@@tcgplayercom Sadly got a first round loss. But went 3-2 overall with UR standard delver. Missed prize support, but totally worth the fun. Watching this video gave me a better appreciation of the community. Good stuff. Also need more Pretty Deece #IWANTMERCH
"Homelands, released in October 1995, is the seventh Magic expansion. It was the second expansion of the Ice Age block until July 2006,"
You neglected to mention Homelands was, for a time, part of the Ice Age Block.
it was???
We’ve finally found it. Magic as Richard Garfield (truly) intended it
we've done it!!!
Best mtg content on RUclips. Period end of story. Thank you for coming back and posting regularly. I appreciate your hard work.
One of the best magic creators on RUclips!
top 5, or?
@@tcgplayercom I’d say top three, up there with MTG Remy and Rhystic Studies
Gosh this show is so good, keep the great work bud 👍