Thank you for doing this Tony.I watched the B-Berry video a few years ago and some of these pipes weren't made yet.Some don't understand a "side-by-side comparison" is made with the exact same engines to show where each pipe shows it's merits.Of course everyone is welcome to tune their kits to please,but having Good info to start with is most important.I ran a 'Poo-Poo-Pipe' for years and the torque increase made the bike try to wheelie.The pipe Does start plug up after time,as All pipes do.Rinse them out.Keep maintaining your kits,and Happy Trails folks.
I'm running an Ebay knock off of the Deluxe expansion pipe, It's a little smaller diameter but works great. It was a bit loud in the beginning but I created a custom muffler for it and it's fairly quiet now. Doesn't have massive torque but it does go fairly well. My top speed so far is 48, And I think that's fast enough for me. Great video Tony, Keep up the great work.
@@tonytaylor5087 Mine isn't broken in yet either maybe 9 hours on the motor. I did all the port and polish work before I ever started the motor the first time. I also use a 35 tooth sprocket on the rear on a 27.5 rim and tire. Mine has little torque but really good top end speed, Also I had to change frames as my old frame started to flex really badly.
Tony you have been so much help with the awesome array of information and the great attention to detail is spot on...I have built several bikes with mountain bike and cruiser frames...I don't have the money to pay to get a superb rolling chassis for myself.i recently spent like $250 and got a new bt100 v2 motor kit and I am still in the break in part..I opened up the stock exhaust and cut off the long tube on the cap and drilled 5or 6 holes in the cap also to get better flow...I drilled like four or five holes the size of your pinky finger in the air filter cover also...so better flow in and out....yes we do want all the specialty performance parts for the BT 100 v2 motor that are available for the 66 80cc motors .. I realize that the f zero frames are the best looking and functioning..I would love to be able to get help to be able to build and test parts and bikes for a company like yourself....I am 49 years old and have been working on and building bikes since age 7...that is a dream of mine ...would kill to have the opportunity to have one of those frames and wheels like the fzero...my newest build is on a old Diamond back MTN bike rigid frame and forks... This is a first for me...I rarely comment on anything or subscribe to anything...but the dream will never become reality if I don't try...so Tony is there any way you can help me....hope to hear a reply ....only cause I see you are so attentive to the comments and you respond to most...which is so cool.....
Hey Riverztwysted! Thank you for the kind words! It’s nice to know we’re the same age. The best advice I can pass along to you is the same that helped me years ago. That advice is to keep pursuing the things that motivate and inspire you then share that with others in as many places as possible where the goal is to truly help others. That’s the main reason we’re on this earth. To help another move forward in a positive way.
Thanks so much for taking the time to do all these “real world” comparisons and tests on these exhausts. I’m new to the 2 stroke bike scene (got my 1st Bikeberry F zero setup on the way) but not new to 2 stroke engines as I’ve been racing gas boats for 15 plus years. I subbed and I’m excited to learn more from your channel, keep up the great work…
Update: been riding my bike everyday as its breaking in the speed is increasing, totally enjoying the bike and love everything about it . I’m a new fan of the 2 stroke bike & community…
You are correct Sir. Get yourself a 50 to 70cc Stage6 pipe, multiple models, costlier than any xhinese engine, any. Feel the power. If you bite the bullet, can be at your door in 2 and a half days. They produce and ship from from Kleinbitt, Germany.
Hey guys I have an honest question on these small motors is the magneto generator inside the engine all standard universal fit? As was thinking of get a spare just incase. Btw it’s just a regular China engine Thanks
Thanks that gave me the info I needed as I have 3 exhausts handy. Modified stock, banana expansion, and the flex poo poo. I'm gonna toy with my 3 to see what I get but I bet I know which will be best.
Not sure exactly what cc my engine is but it has a standard exhaust with a pie cut instead of the stock tube and i get 40mph on gps. Found the bike with the engine on it in a scrap pile and put a new carb on it, runs and sounds like dirt bike. 🤷
After blowing up 8 China dolls and 4 fantom 85s I have seen the light and bought my self a Talara sting R MX4 electric and I can only say I wished I had done it sooner these bikes are a blast straight out of the box and they are made in China so they are still a China Doll LOL
I feel this isn't really a fair comparison unless you tuned the carb and edited it out because each pipe is gonna change the dynamics and flow of the engine and unless you tune for each one they're not going to perform the way they are meant to
Of course you could further tweak to your hearts content. But the story remains the same. Feel free to set up a bike as you see fit and run tests. I look forward to your discovery.
Exactly my sentiment. I own a 'poo poo' pipe and yes, I get around the same speed he did because it is too rich up top... I'm still looking for a set of jets for my YD100 carb.
Thank you for doing this Tony.I watched the B-Berry video a few years ago and some of these pipes weren't made yet.Some don't understand a "side-by-side comparison" is made with the exact same engines to show where each pipe shows it's merits.Of course everyone is welcome to tune their kits to please,but having Good info to start with is most important.@@tonytaylor5087
Guys, I have a dilemma, I need you to help me find out if the PWK 24 mm MotoForce Racing V2 Carburetor is suitable for my 80cc motorcycle, please give me an expert answer, thank you
Don't fooled the pipe he's trying to sell is a fake China for £35, the real one is an mz65 style pipe with a real expansion chamber and proper down pipe. I'd still reccomend sticking within budget and availability though unless your a racer or something
fun fact, all of those pipes are dogsh for a 2 stroke. a 2 stroke is desighned to have an exhaust with specific geometry and the only 2 exhausts that should ever touch a 2 stroke are the CDH67 or the kdx65 or clone of a kdx65.
From experience, that "upgraded" carb hes using is junk. All it does is increase torque a tiny amount while sacrificing top speed. The stock nt/speed carb is much better across-the-board in my opinion. And if its re - jetted... Forget about it
Also for the most cost effective exhaust mod, remove the 10mm end nut from your standard exhaust, then take a hack saw and cut the long baffle tube as low as you can, then for extra flow drill a 6mm hole opposite to the existing one. This gives just enough back pressure while allowing a non restricted flow through. You'll thank me later
Neighbors love the deluxe expansion chamber
Thank you for doing this Tony.I watched the B-Berry video a few years ago and some of these pipes weren't made yet.Some don't understand a "side-by-side comparison" is made with the exact same engines to show where each pipe shows it's merits.Of course everyone is welcome to tune their kits to please,but having Good info to start with is most important.I ran a 'Poo-Poo-Pipe' for years and the torque increase made the bike try to wheelie.The pipe Does start plug up after time,as All pipes do.Rinse them out.Keep maintaining your kits,and Happy Trails folks.
Spot on Bry. Spot on! This one was a ton of work but I think it’ll give folks a great head start.
I'm running an Ebay knock off of the Deluxe expansion pipe, It's a little smaller diameter but works great. It was a bit loud in the beginning but I created a custom muffler for it and it's fairly quiet now. Doesn't have massive torque but it does go fairly well. My top speed so far is 48, And I think that's fast enough for me. Great video Tony, Keep up the great work.
Yeah that’s pretty fast. I can see this rig doing that over time once it’s broken in & tweaked. Appreciate the kind words 😊
@@tonytaylor5087 Mine isn't broken in yet either maybe 9 hours on the motor. I did all the port and polish work before I ever started the motor the first time. I also use a 35 tooth sprocket on the rear on a 27.5 rim and tire. Mine has little torque but really good top end speed, Also I had to change frames as my old frame started to flex really badly.
Great video, Tony. Always enjoy and appreciate your content.
Thank you so much!
Tony you have been so much help with the awesome array of information and the great attention to detail is spot on...I have built several bikes with mountain bike and cruiser frames...I don't have the money to pay to get a superb rolling chassis for myself.i recently spent like $250 and got a new bt100 v2 motor kit and I am still in the break in part..I opened up the stock exhaust and cut off the long tube on the cap and drilled 5or 6 holes in the cap also to get better flow...I drilled like four or five holes the size of your pinky finger in the air filter cover also...so better flow in and out....yes we do want all the specialty performance parts for the BT 100 v2 motor that are available for the 66 80cc motors .. I realize that the f zero frames are the best looking and functioning..I would love to be able to get help to be able to build and test parts and bikes for a company like yourself....I am 49 years old and have been working on and building bikes since age 7...that is a dream of mine ...would kill to have the opportunity to have one of those frames and wheels like the fzero...my newest build is on a old Diamond back MTN bike rigid frame and forks... This is a first for me...I rarely comment on anything or subscribe to anything...but the dream will never become reality if I don't try...so Tony is there any way you can help me....hope to hear a reply ....only cause I see you are so attentive to the comments and you respond to most...which is so cool.....
Hey Riverztwysted! Thank you for the kind words! It’s nice to know we’re the same age. The best advice I can pass along to you is the same that helped me years ago. That advice is to keep pursuing the things that motivate and inspire you then share that with others in as many places as possible where the goal is to truly help others. That’s the main reason we’re on this earth. To help another move forward in a positive way.
important info, always wondered this exact question
Thanks so much for taking the time to do all these “real world” comparisons and tests on these exhausts. I’m new to the 2 stroke bike scene (got my 1st Bikeberry F zero setup on the way) but not new to 2 stroke engines as I’ve been racing gas boats for 15 plus years. I subbed and I’m excited to learn more from your channel, keep up the great work…
Update: been riding my bike everyday as its breaking in the speed is increasing, totally enjoying the bike and love everything about it . I’m a new fan of the 2 stroke bike & community…
Hope your not using that ragg joint sprocket ......1st thing to upgrade is always the sprocket adapter or you will find out soon
@@GEEBUZ89 no ragg joint, the brake disc and rear sprocket came directly bolted to the wheel…
Thank you, Mr. Tony.
Shouldn't we just go with what racing teams that race 2-stroke motorcycles go with, since they've probably done all of the research already?
You are correct Sir. Get yourself a 50 to 70cc Stage6 pipe, multiple models, costlier than any xhinese engine, any. Feel the power. If you bite the bullet, can be at your door in 2 and a half days. They produce and ship from from Kleinbitt, Germany.
I don’t know a thing about those but If that’s what you want to do then you should let us know what works.
@@tonytaylor5087 it's part of my bike, bro. Racing games my dude
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Thank you! Made my day!
Hi Tony, your video is very nice, I'm from Greece, I also have an 80 cubic here, but not many people know about it
Im get my first engine for my bike and was wondering the loudness of the pipes ? Now it settled 😊😂. Thank you .much appreciated
Where did you get that reed intake?
What about with 4 stroke?
Do you have the piston opened up??
You mean windowed?
yall need make exhaust for the 80/100 cc engines . I wish i had one that had an expansion chamber for it . I feel it would produce more power.
What size Sprocket was you using when you did this test with the exhaust
Hey guys I have an honest question on these small motors is the magneto generator inside the engine all standard universal fit? As was thinking of get a spare just incase. Btw it’s just a regular China engine Thanks
Very nice 2 valve cycle engine bicycle! I am thinking making a Tricycle 4 valve engine or electric but going rigid run self power what you think 🤔!
Lots of trikes out there. Yes do it!
@@tonytaylor5087 Thanks 😊
Would it have been too much trouble for you to say when you are going to switch exhaust?,🙄, but overall great video,👍, thanks for sharing.
I said it constantly. One right after the other with a graphic identifying each one.
Thanks that gave me the info I needed as I have 3 exhausts handy. Modified stock, banana expansion, and the flex poo poo. I'm gonna toy with my 3 to see what I get but I bet I know which will be best.
Hello can motorized bicycle run on E10 Fuel?
Most builders try to us as little ethanol as possible cause it’s dirtier. Others have used it with ok results.
u can use the e10 fuel i run on mine and no issue at all 2 months driving on it
Excelente video thanks
The deluxe expansion pipe your showing is a different pipe than your running .the header pipes are different sizes
Not sure exactly what cc my engine is but it has a standard exhaust with a pie cut instead of the stock tube and i get 40mph on gps. Found the bike with the engine on it in a scrap pile and put a new carb on it, runs and sounds like dirt bike. 🤷
Sounds like you got a deal!
After blowing up 8 China dolls and 4 fantom 85s I have seen the light and bought my self a Talara sting R MX4 electric and I can only say I wished I had done it sooner these bikes are a blast straight out of the box and they are made in China so they are still a China Doll LOL
8 engines? Dude...
Sounds like fun!
That is over the last 14 years@@leonardarola
Yeah use better oil.
@@leonardarola8 engines is crazy
Do you have pictures of the crankcase? Was wondering if that engine would mount on a 1/5 scale rc car.
Check out the site link in the description.
I feel this isn't really a fair comparison unless you tuned the carb and edited it out because each pipe is gonna change the dynamics and flow of the engine and unless you tune for each one they're not going to perform the way they are meant to
Of course you could further tweak to your hearts content. But the story remains the same. Feel free to set up a bike as you see fit and run tests. I look forward to your discovery.
Exactly my sentiment. I own a 'poo poo' pipe and yes, I get around the same speed he did because it is too rich up top... I'm still looking for a set of jets for my YD100 carb.
Thank you for doing this Tony.I watched the B-Berry video a few years ago and some of these pipes weren't made yet.Some don't understand a "side-by-side comparison" is made with the exact same engines to show where each pipe shows it's merits.Of course everyone is welcome to tune their kits to please,but having Good info to start with is most important.@@tonytaylor5087
is raly standard better than flex poo poo ???
Rmh performance is a company worth supporting abd better performance
Can we get a chart? Lol
Guys, I have a dilemma, I need you to help me find out if the PWK 24 mm MotoForce Racing V2 Carburetor is suitable for my 80cc motorcycle, please give me an expert answer, thank you
Don't fooled the pipe he's trying to sell is a fake China for £35, the real one is an mz65 style pipe with a real expansion chamber and proper down pipe. I'd still reccomend sticking within budget and availability though unless your a racer or something
If I may add your bike is running ridiculously rich. Need to lean it out man
Yep you’re right. It’s still being broke in as I said in the video.
fun fact, all of those pipes are dogsh for a 2 stroke. a 2 stroke is desighned to have an exhaust with specific geometry and the only 2 exhausts that should ever touch a 2 stroke are the CDH67 or the kdx65 or clone of a kdx65.
From experience, that "upgraded" carb hes using is junk. All it does is increase torque a tiny amount while sacrificing top speed. The stock nt/speed carb is much better across-the-board in my opinion. And if its re - jetted... Forget about it
Also for the most cost effective exhaust mod, remove the 10mm end nut from your standard exhaust, then take a hack saw and cut the long baffle tube as low as you can, then for extra flow drill a 6mm hole opposite to the existing one. This gives just enough back pressure while allowing a non restricted flow through. You'll thank me later