I think it is probably fair to say that both side saw the reaction of A&M fans/donors and there was some ill feeling about how it would play out. Both probably at that time decided it best to back away.
Easy. Stoops is a known quantity, with 0 ties to A&M, active players, or recruiting base. Elko is an up and coming coach (maybe he'll be the next Smart, maybe he'll be the next Pruitt - only time will tell - but the unknown potential is certainly there), with incredible ties to A&M (one would argue that Jimbo's success largely fell on Elko's shoulders), connection to a big chunk of that locker room, and 4 years of recruiting experience in the area. That's why, for A&M: Elko > Stoops That's not to say Stoops isn't good, as Aggie, I like the idea of Stoops coaching our team - but I like the idea of Elko coaching us better.
Elko was very well liked as the Defensive Coordinator at TAMU from 2018 to 2021 and it sounds like most of people there are happy with the hire and glad to have him back
He was also involved with recruiting many of them, so a lot of the players already know him and like him. With him in the HC spot, players that might have been thinking of hitting portal might decide to stay. There will be transfers, just maybe not the mass exodus A&M was fearing.
I don’t believe Stoops only listened to it. I believe he said yes, but when the fans pushed back on it, both parties agreed it was better to move on from it. A&M is not going to say he’s going to be the coach unless he says yes. Believe what you want, but that’s the most likely thing to happen. Not Stoops turning them down.
@@riderdie5423told them yes he was interested he said. To get the wheels moving. He didn’t say stoops committed too it which I call BS on as well. He was gone lol
Everything Matt Jones says is bullshit. No facts involved, he says it from the beginning. He's basically just making up a narrative that helps his buddy Stoops save face. Everyone knows how it went down. The funny thing is, if it were Cal that everyone was talking about, Matt "Dookie" Jones would be arguing for the negative view. I know the fan base is torn on Cal, but he's actually had some success at UK. Stoops on the other hand, doesn't even have a winning conference record.
A&M huge fan base reacted, I was one one of them. We felt that we were getting another Fisher with less of a mouth at about the same money. Kentucky is welcome to keep him and continue too win at a higher level than they would with most other coaches. while UK has some good assitants its not like Stoops could have replaced them in kind or better with the draw to A&M. Elko showed more at Duke witth far less than Stoops did at Kentucky and Elko already knew of the twisted culture at A&M and how to fix it. Stoops has already reached his ceiling at UK with his speach on getting NIL players to be able to effectively to compete in the SEC expansion and division drop which will be a challenge to Eastern division (former) teams on the lower half. If KSR wants a softer take to keep the heat off Mark theen go for it.
A&M is essentially UK in the West, except with more talent. I’m happy for A&M, but definitely do not see any kind of improvement with their hire. If they’re hiring a 7-5 coach from Duke in a soft conference, they had to be told no by quite a few people.
Sounds fair. The current band of assistants and coordinators could have gone on just fine without him had one of _them_ been offered the job. They could have kept players. In Texas Stoops would have been under tremendous more pressure for the same pay and starting with reportedly 80% negativity among fans and players. That would be a steep hole to start out of. And 3-4 years from now? It would all be over. Meanwhile, the staff that stayed in Lexington just rolling along going to a Tennessee bowl game every year. Stoops will be at UK forever.
Stoops didn't reject Texas A&M, their board of regents or whatever rejected him AFTER their fans pushed back and were outraged over the idea. He was as good as gone and you know it.
Let's say I want to pony up. Because on some level even tho he may have rubbed you wrong, he's right. I have a little extra cash to pony up. Where do I do that at?
Stoops was never offered the job. But, I can assure you that Stoops and Kentucky have done a fair job of making it look like he was and that Kentucky is a place "on par" with A&M. This is a great propaganda push by UK and Stoops. More people are talking about Stoops staying at Kentucky than the new coach at A&M. Good job UK...people are talking about you again. That is all this is.
Some Cat fans need a reality check. The fact is Stoops has the 9th longest active bowl streak, which means only Kentucky and 8 other schools have had winning (or at least non-losing) records for each of the past eight seasons, and the other 121 FBS schools have tried and failed to do the same. And of the 8 schools with longer streaks, most of them have similar ho-hum seasons during their streaks. It's not always sexy, granted, but it keeps the program moving forward
Vandy Miss St every year going away can’t load up on cupcakes anymore. Stoops only beat two SEC teams in his history that had winning conference records. Stoops was gone and they pulled it back since Aggie fans freaked out.
Glad Stoops is staying! With that said UK football needs to beat SEC wise Vandy, South Carolina, Missouri and Miss St every year. Then Florida, Auburn, Arkansas most years. Split meetings with Vols, Ole Miss. And once in a while compete or possibly beat LSU, Oklahoma or Texas. Georgia and Bama 4get about winning just hope to be somewhat competitive in those games. I feel like I'm forgetting somebody lol. 8-10 win seasons should always be the goal at a minimum most seasons imo.
What is being reported out of OU/Oklahoma, bork gave him the job, Mark accepted but as word leaked out the a@m fans made such an uproar that the regents wouldn't approve the contract?
Maybe an assistant coach couldn't go, maybe Aggie fans revolted. The bottom line is Mark Stoops himself was ready to leave. THAT'S what Kentucky fans should understand from all this. Your coach wanted to go. That tweet he sent out is a slap in your face.
Stoops said yes...Bjork did not have permission from the Board of Regents and the BoR stopped that hire. Stoops would be stupid to not take the A&M job to stay at Kentucky, a basketball school.
Obviously, A & M is going to spin it as their call. DO you think they would put out there they were turned down by kentucky's coach? I dont know how it went down, but both sides have something to gain by putting themself in a positive light.
I’m really excited that Stoops is staying with us; yes this season hasn’t been what it should’ve been but I believe in Coach Stoops and I believe he can make Kentucky Football an SEC powerhouse. GO CATS!!!!! 🏈
I know he turned down the Job. He loves being here and Texas A&M is no better than UK right now they just have more money. Also, if you fail there your gone in 2 years. I was so sad when I found out Stoops may possibly leave. Sports starts in August for UK now since Stoops has been here. I have wanted that my whole life. Thank you Mark!
Name the last A&M coach who was fired after just 2 years. I’m an Aggie and I don’t know the answer😂. I do know that Jimbo, Sumlin, Sherman, Fran, Slocum and Sherrill didn’t get fired after only 2 years.😂. That takes you back to at least the early 80’s.
@@snakepilskin2171 thanks for the history lesson. They gave Jimbo 4.5 years with all his success and what they owed him. How long do you think they are gonna give a guy like Elko?
@@snakepilskin2171 Thanks for making my point. A&m gave the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the country 6 years. How long do you think a guy like Elko or stoops would last.
Well, I heard that Bjork told Stoops to name his price. Stoops came back and said, "I'm going to need about tree-fiddy." And it was about that time that Bjork realized that Mark Stoops was 8 stories tall and a crustacean from the Predadoic Era.
The Texas A and M Board of Regents at a 730 pm meeting Saturday voted to not approve Ross Bjorks recommendation of Stoops as the new head coach. The vote actually occurred at about 9 pm after discussion. Stoops was informed shortly thereafter by Bjork, at approximately 10 pm that he was not going to be the A and M head coach.
Stoops was reportedly already telling some folks close to him that he was going to be leaving. Bjork made the offer, but the BoR rejected it. Whether they did so on their own or because they saw the fan reaction is up for debate.
Frankly , as an alum and proud BBN member, I believe that A&M can do a lot better than Stoops, and I don’t blame them for rejecting him. He’s has been a decent fit for KY, but not going to take us, or anyone else to an SEC or national title. With the buyout money we would have, we might have gotten a young creative coaching mind to possible take us to the next level as Stoops replacement. Think of a guy like Drinkwitz at Missouri, who clearly know how to motivate and get the absolute most from his players. He punches well above his weight class and will continue to improve their program. Those guys are still out there. Does anyone really think Stoops will ever get this program to an elite level, or is even a great coach ? Be honest
Lmao. Have you looked at your history as a football program? Fran Curci had a team of hoodlums who won big if you don't mind having cocaine and murder associated with your program. Stoops could do just a good job as any at A& M.
At this point, we have to expect 8 wins. Getting to a conference championship game will require the coaches of UT and UGA to just leave for another job. Which wont happen for the years to come. Though without divisions for the foreseeable future, we may never get to one.
Lmao you think its their coaches? No, its that they have massive recruiting advantages and have third strings that are ranked higher than our first string
@@chrismurphy4021 It’s not that I think that it’s the coaches. With the transfer portal players can leave when a coach is fired. Also, UK under Stoops has been bringing in top 25 recruiting classes. Even brought in a 14th ranked recruiting class in 2022. The talent gap is not nearly the same as it used to be. Especially with players coming from the transfer portal. Yes, they can take advantage of some coaching chaos. Those teams will lose some talent and UK can load up on some transfers to make up the gaps. What you said was true pre-Stoops, but not now. The differences in talent are seen with UGA and Bama, but that’s most teams. We’d have to pull in some top 10 classes to make up those gaps, but in the right year; some coaching shakeups, underwhelming QB performance from UGA and Bama, and the right QB for UK it’s possible. Having continuity with coaches can potentially provide that opportunity
I gave a like on this for Matt, he covered this very well. I think Coach Stoops at Kentucky sits very well? He has done some very good things at KY, sometimes as a fan, we get too spoiled? It may be great that Stoops made the decision to stay at KY, not just from losing players that were already committed to KY, but how would it feel to lose Stoops as a Coach, really.......These fans in Lexington dodge a bullet and, should be more thankful, right?
Guarantee that Texas A&M got Elko at a way lower cost they could get Stoops for. I think that ultimately decided it. If they didn’t offer Mark something WAY MORE than he’s making now then the right choice is to stay at KY. Glad we get to keep him. Also glad to see schools like A&M going after our head coach, love the guy and if an opportunity arises for him to make more with more resources than good for him 🫡
Personally I think it’s about the players .. would distrust a coach jumping ship after selling all these young guys on a dream. Stoops has a good opportunity to build on this season and will do so
As a Duke fan, I didn’t mind so much Coach Elko left Duke however it’s the way he left. two days ago Elko informed Duke and the players he was staying at Duke, however he packed up his family on a private plane and cowardly left town because he didn’t want to face Duke , the fans and the media after all the lies that were told!, my understanding was he never met with the Duke players in person to tell them he was leaving!
I am so glad to hear the A&M fans and players were in a complete revolt over the pending hiring of Mark Stoops. After all, a program with 3 national championships (1919, 1927, and 1939) deserves a true home run hire. I'm sure if you look, you can find someone still alive who seen at least one of those championship teams play. If you're real lucky, you may even find one of those folks who actually remember it. Let's look at a little more recent history. Mark Stoops inherited a real shit show when he took over. 2-10, 5-7, and 5-7 the first 3 years. Since 2016, he is 21 games over 500, and A&M is what, 22 games above 500 with multiple top 5 recruiting classes, and now the richest NIL deal in college football. I for one realize and appreciate the fact that the Kentucky fan base is bitching and moaning because of only 7 wins. As for the players for A&M, I'm really proud of them for standing their ground and demanding that the A&M administration hire a different coach. After all, a team that has that much talent and money who has accomplished so little should be able to hold the administration over a barrel. That bowl game they played last season was an instant classic. Oh, that's right, they didn't make a bowl game last year. Glad to see Elko getting his chance in College Station. After all, he is the reigning ACC coach of the year (a lesser conference). I believe Stoops has a 2018 SEC coach of the year year award. As we know, both coaches went 7-5 this season. I just hope these two teams get to play each other soon.
@@davidtoney8399 it's your overall tone that says it. I'm sorry Mark Stoops came back to your program with his tail between his legs. You'll get through it.
The story broken by a Kentucky TV sports reporter and not TexAgs like the video claimed. @CBeasmoreSports at 8:03 pm and then confirmed on TexAgs by a post from Billy Liucci at 8:48 to confirm. When the A&M fans found out and began the revolt, Stoops "changed" his mind shortly after thr BOR scheduled meeting Saturday night to discuss the hire. Matt is wrong about that so I'm sure the rest is more gas lighting to make it appear better for Stoops.
Look, we all know he was coming. As an Ag, I think the way we handled it was bullshit. Stoops didn't deserve the backlash TAMU gave him, and he's got every right to try and save face in front of his home crowd. ...but he was 100% coming. Far as not understanding why Elko's a better fit for TAMU, don't know what to tell you. Maybe you don't need to know, but we got our guy. Hope you're good keeping yours.
Here’s the bottom line. Mark stoops wanted to go to Texas AM once he was denied by the boosters and fans he basically tucked his tail and came back to us. You can talk about the reasons NIL money ok cool whatever. But still yet he wanted to leave Ky for Texas am and it looked really bad on him to not choose Ky first but instead he ended up keeping his job becauee the one promised to him said he couldn’t come.! That was a complete media circus and it was drama that no Ky fan needed to deal with. No one wants to believe that the beloved coach that we all came to love didn’t want us ! And didn’t want to stay here. I mean at least at the bare minimum, Texas AM shouldn’t have said ANYTHING I mean at least hide it from all of us fans so it doesn’t put a bad taste In our mouth. Yeah we can all be happy he stayed but it’s like have a girlfriend that stays with u because the other guy ended up staying with the guy she was with. No one wants to be 2nd place with the coach
Your comparison is personal. Collegiate football is business that is filthier than the NFL. A & M spends more money than Kentucky on football, but if you look at results, Kentucky is on par with A & M. Tennessee has not been elite for 20 years, but you can see a little bit why they think they are top tier even though they're not. Just hilarious how A & M believes it's elite, no evidence to back that up.
Stoops dodged a landmine. He would be in rebuild mode again and it’s doubtful that TAMU would pony up Jimbo Fisher level money again. He’s also on a shorter leash at College Station compared to Lexington. He has a big recruiting class coming in.
Our big recruiting class is big for the nation, but still one of the wirst in the SEC. Without our dans and business significantly increasing NIL funds we cant compete
If you think Elko and Stoops are the same guy then I will take the cheaper one with ties to ATM. Bjork should have been fired for giving Jimbo that extension and he was sure to be fired if Stoops was his hire, considering the cost and fan reaction.
I think Stoops and Elko would have or does now represent a huge upgrade in coaching for A&M. The list of grossly over paid coaches who have very poor leadership skills is a long one.
Kind of surprised Matt doesn't think the A&M fan reaction had any impact. Those fans have a lot to do with the NIL do they not.....soooooooo I kinda think that fan reaction did play a part in it. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Lol… whatever helps you sleep? I don’t think the A&M side will officially deny this, they probably feel bad. I’m sure you are being fed the narrative Stoops wants you to think, but he doesn’t turn down the A&M job IF being in a much more competitive situation is important to him - it may not be, he’s been comfortable with a losing record in SEC play in the easier division for over a decade. He may not have wanted to go realizing the A&M fan base was in full revolt over Bjork trying to brink in a 35-55 coach? Elko can hit the job running, has much higher upside and know A&M!
the reason he didnt go to texas a&m is the a&m fans didnt want him there thats the bottom line....thats fact not i think this or that....they all but him signing the contract made a deal and the fans pretty much stopped the whole thing.....nobody down there wanted him thats fact and as you said believe how you want.
I think Mitch Barnhart needs to take a long look at Mark Stoops contract and figure out a way to get OUT of it for the same reason alot of Kentucky fans want, MORE then what mark Stoops can do for the Kentucky Football program, yes he has won more games then any other coach at the Kentucky Football program in twice the time then any of the other coaches at Kentucky, THE FANS are tired of year after year being a mediocrce SEC team and thats all Mark Stoops can do.
Im definitely a stoops supporter im glad he stayed because had he left im not sure who they could have hired to keep all this young talent. I really wish they could cap the Nil its ridiculous they cant A&M should be a powerhouse every season with no salary cap in BB it matters but nowhere near to the same degree when u compare 13 SS to 85... Its making it so hard to aquire depth. This team has some legit star power but people expecting 10 win seasons just arent being honest with themselves reason being with all the stars we lack so much depth at some of the most important positions then as soon as a guy is developed and blows up by his Soph year all the players come calling ie Auburn although Hayes has played awesome at NG after Rogers left. I just wish some of these Millionaires and Billionaires would devise a plan for some type of IMG academy to help the state go from producing 15-25 D1 players (3-6 sec caliber) on average to 40-50. It would benefit all the in state programs. Until the NCAA figures this out its gonna be tough to aquire any depth again as good as our team is we have huge holes on the O line-Secondary and even LB. 3-5 years ago those teams didnt have all the star power but we had legit depth at every position minus Qb and with better qb play we would have definitely fielded a better group of pass catchers. If he does leave i just hope they truly swing for the fence and just dont settle a guy one state away. Hes perfect in that conference but to win in the SEC you gotta have 6-8 solid O lineman and 6_8 guys that are 275-330# in the midde of your defense. Last thing weve proven a elite HS talent RB can thrive here why cant we land at least 1 top 20 R-back in each cycle? Rant over great video fellas. Messaging from eastern KY. We are the v Best most die HARD fans BTW
The other coaches know if they are going with him or not way before an offer. If it was a crap school that could change things. Aggie fans said no and big money pulled back. Bet he tries to leave again.
Ross Bjork, A & M’S Athletic Director SHOULD BE FIRED! Why? He was there when they gave Jimbo that Ridiculous Contract with the INSANE GUARANTEE! Then he recommends Mark Stoops for the job but, bails once he realizes the Fans and Boosters reactions to his hire! You would think that he would assess their reaction to Stoops BEFORE HE MAKES THE OFFER TO HIM? Bjork talks until he’s blue in the face about LEADERSHIP! Does that look like Leadership to you?
One guy just got here and some had babies? You mean LIam Coen that just tried to leave for the Ohio state OC and the bears OC. Sure he didn’t want to leave
5:31 Matt is telling us he’s like Alexander Hamilton? He was “in the room where it happened”?😂 If that’s the case, do tell: Malone’s or Jeff Ruby’s? Or Carson’s or Cole’s perhaps? If you say KSBar then I call BS 🙃
Mike Elko has a history with A&M. Elko was an incredible defensive coordinator during Jimbo’s reign of terror (the terror belonged to the fan base, not our opponents). So with that history, Mike Elko is already adjusted to A&M culture and already enjoys a certain amount of popularity . That is the only reason Aggie fans are somewhat more comfortable with Elko over Stoops. However, I agree that Mike Elko isn’t much of a step up from Stoops. A&M Boffed the heck out of their coaching search and produced lemons. The AD at A&M should be fired for how poorly he handled the entire situation. Out of all the choices the Aggies could have made coaching selections from, Stoops and Elko should have been top 10… but certainly not in top 3. No offense meant to UK fans. I’m a disappointed Aggie, and I approve this message.
I mean, you're probably at least partially right. But Stoops was also a DC under Jimbo, only he won an NC in that same role at FSU. I'm super glad Stoops stayed and I hope he gets a bigger NIL commitment, but I think there's a good chance some TaMu fans are gonna regret that initial reaction to hiring Mark in a few years. Time will tell.
Also, unless he was just blowing smoke, he said he liked College Station and living there and he made it clear that he wouldn't leave A&M for another DC job, but then he was offered a HC job.
I can't say that I believe you, but I will say that your story makes more sense than the shit show story coming from aTm, that makes them look like clowns.
A&M fans crack me up. You are just Kentucky of the west. The problem is, you don't know it. All that money and nowhere near the SEC championship. Now that your big brother and Oklahoma are coming into the league, you become Vandy. Elko got housed by bad teams this year. Good luck with that. You deserve it.
Really? Already has 2 10 win seasons at Kentucky and was the 2018 SEC coach of the year. Elko, I believe went 7-5 this year and was shut out by Louisville 23-0, you know the team that the Mark Stoops coached Kentucky Wildcats just beat. So, do you actually believe Elko can do what a national championship coach couldn't do with all that talent and the richest NIL setup in college football? Good luck.
He lost me when he says A&M has the biggest NIL in the country. A&M is up there definitely, but there's a few Universities that have more money than A&M
@@jamesellis701 Name the. On 11/13/23 the athletics department received a $160 million dollar donation if you don’t believe me look it up. They are by far the richest athletic department in the country. Only Texas compares
I agree they have the best NIL and all of that but I am not so sure its a great or even better job. They have historically been an 8 win team and for some reason they have the idea that they should win the title every year like they are alabama or something. It would be incredible hard to live up to expectations there and to top it off their biggest recruiting foe is moving into the conference.
I don't fault your take, but as someone who has been following Aggies football closely since the Southwest Conference days, let me fill in the blanks. We have a chip on our shoulder. We didn't start a winning tradition until the 70's, and we admittedly did poorly in the Big 12 (one conference title). Once Texas tried to flex and keep the lions share of the Big 12 money and have its own network, we left. When we left we made a commitment to start winning, and big. So far it hasn't paid off, besides an 11-2 year with Manziel and 9-1 under Fisher. Fisher proved that when Elko left, so did the discipline. While we wanted a homerun hire, eventually I think we made the right choice by bringing back the man who made 9-1 possible.
@@benw1656 you may have made a "commitment" to winning but looking at the last 20 years you are averaging 7.65 wins a season. So the job itself is not a good job looking at the overall history and then realizing the expectations are somehow the same as bama
@@Squantoon Since joining the SEC we are 97-53, 4th best in the SEC over that stretch behind LSU, Bama and Georgia. Better than Texas too. We have been consistently very good, we are trying to become great. We have the facilities, we have the support and we sure as hell have the money and the roster. Why the hell wouldn't it be a great job? We aren't a team that has a ton of titles right now, but stop trying to rationalize that we aren't a top destination for a coach.
@@benw1656 none of this erases that you are a 7.65 win a year team over the last 20 years. Going to a place with this history but the expectations of something far better than that is not a good job imo. Can disagree all you want.
@@Squantoon Cherry picking data and relying on that cherry picked data as your only argument. As I said, 2012 is when we committed to the football team, so why would anything before that matter. #7 according to USA today in total 2022 AD revenues. 100,000 seat stadium. Top 50 ranked overall for education by US News. 247Sports ranked #2 ranked facilities with $100 million invested just last year for more improvements. #4 in team talent according to 247Sports. Not to mention some of the wealthiest and most generous boosters in the world. So please give up the talking point, "7.65 wins."
I think it is probably fair to say that both side saw the reaction of A&M fans/donors and there was some ill feeling about how it would play out. Both probably at that time decided it best to back away.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I think happened. Then, of course, A&M basically hires Stoops anyway in Elko…🤷🏻♂️
@@tiffincatfan79Elko’s definitely a much better fit for A&M
@@tonionknight7472No lol, just not at all.
Easy. Stoops is a known quantity, with 0 ties to A&M, active players, or recruiting base. Elko is an up and coming coach (maybe he'll be the next Smart, maybe he'll be the next Pruitt - only time will tell - but the unknown potential is certainly there), with incredible ties to A&M (one would argue that Jimbo's success largely fell on Elko's shoulders), connection to a big chunk of that locker room, and 4 years of recruiting experience in the area.
That's why, for A&M: Elko > Stoops
That's not to say Stoops isn't good, as Aggie, I like the idea of Stoops coaching our team - but I like the idea of Elko coaching us better.
Elko was very well liked as the Defensive Coordinator at TAMU from 2018 to 2021 and it sounds like most of people there are happy with the hire and glad to have him back
He was also involved with recruiting many of them, so a lot of the players already know him and like him. With him in the HC spot, players that might have been thinking of hitting portal might decide to stay.
There will be transfers, just maybe not the mass exodus A&M was fearing.
He is the perfect fit there. It's a good hire
He’s a mediocre coach in a weak football conference that’s what you got
Fast forward to the end of October….as an A&M fan. Happy we got him on top of the sec!
I don’t believe Stoops only listened to it. I believe he said yes, but when the fans pushed back on it, both parties agreed it was better to move on from it. A&M is not going to say he’s going to be the coach unless he says yes. Believe what you want, but that’s the most likely thing to happen. Not Stoops turning them down.
If you listen to what Matt said he said stoops told them yes in order for them to move forward and get approval from the board…..
@@riderdie5423told them yes he was interested he said. To get the wheels moving. He didn’t say stoops committed too it which I call BS on as well. He was gone lol
Everything Matt Jones says is bullshit. No facts involved, he says it from the beginning. He's basically just making up a narrative that helps his buddy Stoops save face. Everyone knows how it went down. The funny thing is, if it were Cal that everyone was talking about, Matt "Dookie" Jones would be arguing for the negative view. I know the fan base is torn on Cal, but he's actually had some success at UK. Stoops on the other hand, doesn't even have a winning conference record.
Cause Elko is so much better
@@riderdie5423 if you think it was just, “Yeah, I’m interested.” to get the ball rolling, I think you’re being naive. He was gone.
I think the a&m FANS SAID WHY DO WE MAKE A LATERAL MOVE! So if That's the case why did we fire the last 2 coaches.
No lateral move-let's move down
A&M huge fan base reacted, I was one one of them. We felt that we were getting another Fisher with less of a mouth at about the same money. Kentucky is welcome to keep him and continue too win at a higher level than they would with most other coaches. while UK has some good assitants its not like Stoops could have replaced them in kind or better with the draw to A&M. Elko showed more at Duke witth far less than Stoops did at Kentucky and Elko already knew of the twisted culture at A&M and how to fix it. Stoops has already reached his ceiling at UK with his speach on getting NIL players to be able to effectively to compete in the SEC expansion and division drop which will be a challenge to Eastern division (former) teams on the lower half. If KSR wants a softer take to keep the heat off Mark theen go for it.
A&M is essentially UK in the West, except with more talent. I’m happy for A&M, but definitely do not see any kind of improvement with their hire. If they’re hiring a 7-5 coach from Duke in a soft conference, they had to be told no by quite a few people.
You A&M fans have an unrealistic opinion of your program. Average at best.
Haha Elko is not better than stoops
You guys really think you're Alabama lol
No comparison sec way tougher than acc
Sounds fair.
The current band of assistants and coordinators could have gone on just fine without him had one of _them_ been offered the job.
They could have kept players.
In Texas Stoops would have been under tremendous more pressure for the same pay and starting with reportedly 80% negativity among fans and players. That would be a steep hole to start out of. And 3-4 years from now? It would all be over.
Meanwhile, the staff that stayed in Lexington just rolling along going to a Tennessee bowl game every year.
Stoops will be at UK forever.
Stoops didn't reject Texas A&M, their board of regents or whatever rejected him AFTER their fans pushed back and were outraged over the idea. He was as good as gone and you know it.
Lmao theres nothing but rumor backing that, and it was announced that hecwasnt going before the biard even met the next day so nice try
Let's say I want to pony up. Because on some level even tho he may have rubbed you wrong, he's right. I have a little extra cash to pony up. Where do I do that at?
Stoops was never offered the job. But, I can assure you that Stoops and Kentucky have done a fair job of making it look like he was and that Kentucky is a place "on par" with A&M. This is a great propaganda push by UK and Stoops. More people are talking about Stoops staying at Kentucky than the new coach at A&M. Good job UK...people are talking about you again. That is all this is.
Some Cat fans need a reality check. The fact is Stoops has the 9th longest active bowl streak, which means only Kentucky and 8 other schools have had winning (or at least non-losing) records for each of the past eight seasons, and the other 121 FBS schools have tried and failed to do the same. And of the 8 schools with longer streaks, most of them have similar ho-hum seasons during their streaks. It's not always sexy, granted, but it keeps the program moving forward
Vandy Miss St every year going away can’t load up on cupcakes anymore. Stoops only beat two SEC teams in his history that had winning conference records. Stoops was gone and they pulled it back since Aggie fans freaked out.
The a&m fans stopped it. Hope you keep him
Lol theres literally nothing backing that but rumor
Glad Stoops is staying! With that said UK football needs to beat SEC wise Vandy, South Carolina, Missouri and Miss St every year. Then Florida, Auburn, Arkansas most years. Split meetings with Vols, Ole Miss. And once in a while compete or possibly beat LSU, Oklahoma or Texas. Georgia and Bama 4get about winning just hope to be somewhat competitive in those games. I feel like I'm forgetting somebody lol. 8-10 win seasons should always be the goal at a minimum most seasons imo.
With the right pieces in place, especially with the o-line and QB they have a chance against UGA and Bama
@@chadsimpson9757 wishful thinking Idk man I just don't see it while Kirby and Saban are there.
@@dennynutt Saban has to retire at some point and Kirby is gonna lose assistants, which may lead to a slight dip. Probably small window of opportunity
That was difficult to follow since he was all over the place. So it was just a rumor started on a A.M. fan site?
Pretty much, yes
No, it was first reported by @CBeasmoreSports on the Kentucky side and once leaked that he was leaving, confirmed by Billy Liucci.
What is being reported out of OU/Oklahoma, bork gave him the job, Mark accepted but as word leaked out the a@m fans made such an uproar that the regents wouldn't approve the contract?
lol OU/Oklahoma
A&M fans have a much higher opinion of their program than the rest of the country.
Lol yeah so does Kentucky
Maybe an assistant coach couldn't go, maybe Aggie fans revolted. The bottom line is Mark Stoops himself was ready to leave. THAT'S what Kentucky fans should understand from all this. Your coach wanted to go. That tweet he sent out is a slap in your face.
Stoops said yes...Bjork did not have permission from the Board of Regents and the BoR stopped that hire. Stoops would be stupid to not take the A&M job to stay at Kentucky, a basketball school.
Obviously, A & M is going to spin it as their call. DO you think they would put out there they were turned down by kentucky's coach? I dont know how it went down, but both sides have something to gain by putting themself in a positive light.
Or so you think stoops would put it out that he would have left excelt they said no to him ? Please he was leaving and told people he was leaving
Kentucky football will never be a powerhouse
I popped in here, heard that first voice, and thought "whoa, Alex Jones?"
I’m really excited that Stoops is staying with us; yes this season hasn’t been what it should’ve been but I believe in Coach Stoops and I believe he can make Kentucky Football an SEC powerhouse. GO CATS!!!!! 🏈
I know he turned down the Job. He loves being here and Texas A&M is no better than UK right now they just have more money. Also, if you fail there your gone in 2 years. I was so sad when I found out Stoops may possibly leave. Sports starts in August for UK now since Stoops has been here. I have wanted that my whole life. Thank you Mark!
Name the last A&M coach who was fired after just 2 years. I’m an Aggie and I don’t know the answer😂. I do know that Jimbo, Sumlin, Sherman, Fran, Slocum and Sherrill didn’t get fired after only 2 years.😂. That takes you back to at least the early 80’s.
Money the only difference 😂
@@snakepilskin2171 thanks for the history lesson. They gave Jimbo 4.5 years with all his success and what they owed him. How long do you think they are gonna give a guy like Elko?
@@randystalker4093 wrong again. This was Jimbos 6th season
@@snakepilskin2171 Thanks for making my point. A&m gave the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the country 6 years. How long do you think a guy like Elko or stoops would last.
Well, I heard that Bjork told Stoops to name his price.
Stoops came back and said, "I'm going to need about tree-fiddy."
And it was about that time that Bjork realized that Mark Stoops was 8 stories tall and a crustacean from the Predadoic Era.
I have it on good authority that this is the real story.
Sorry to tell you his wife paid dammit woman
Great videos
The Texas A and M Board of Regents at a 730 pm meeting Saturday voted to not approve Ross Bjorks recommendation of Stoops as the new head coach. The vote actually occurred at about 9 pm after discussion. Stoops was informed shortly thereafter by Bjork, at approximately 10 pm that he was not going to be the A and M head coach.
Stoops was reportedly already telling some folks close to him that he was going to be leaving. Bjork made the offer, but the BoR rejected it. Whether they did so on their own or because they saw the fan reaction is up for debate.
Frankly , as an alum and proud BBN member, I believe that A&M can do a lot better than Stoops, and I don’t blame them for rejecting him. He’s has been a decent fit for KY, but not going to take us, or anyone else to an SEC or national title. With the buyout money we would have, we might have gotten a young creative coaching mind to possible take us to the next level as Stoops replacement. Think of a guy like Drinkwitz at Missouri, who clearly know how to motivate and get the absolute most from his players. He punches well above his weight class and will continue to improve their program. Those guys are still out there. Does anyone really think Stoops will ever get this program to an elite level, or is even a great coach ? Be honest
There is no one getting to a sec or national title until Kirby smart and nick Saban are gone.
Lmao. Have you looked at your history as a football program? Fran Curci had a team of hoodlums who won big if you don't mind having cocaine and murder associated with your program. Stoops could do just a good job as any at A& M.
Based on the newer info coming in seems Stoops was leaving, but pressure was put on their already fair weathered AD to not follow through.
At this point, we have to expect 8 wins. Getting to a conference championship game will require the coaches of UT and UGA to just leave for another job. Which wont happen for the years to come. Though without divisions for the foreseeable future, we may never get to one.
Same for A&M. Saban will have to retire, Smart would have to leave for the NFL, and Tennessee/LSU/Auburn/Texas/Oklahoma will have to have down years
Definitely more difficult, but with all the coaching turnover in the SEC they could have a shot one year
Lmao you think its their coaches? No, its that they have massive recruiting advantages and have third strings that are ranked higher than our first string
@@chrismurphy4021 It’s not that I think that it’s the coaches. With the transfer portal players can leave when a coach is fired. Also, UK under Stoops has been bringing in top 25 recruiting classes. Even brought in a 14th ranked recruiting class in 2022. The talent gap is not nearly the same as it used to be. Especially with players coming from the transfer portal. Yes, they can take advantage of some coaching chaos. Those teams will lose some talent and UK can load up on some transfers to make up the gaps. What you said was true pre-Stoops, but not now. The differences in talent are seen with UGA and Bama, but that’s most teams. We’d have to pull in some top 10 classes to make up those gaps, but in the right year; some coaching shakeups, underwhelming QB performance from UGA and Bama, and the right QB for UK it’s possible. Having continuity with coaches can potentially provide that opportunity
Matt Jones is saying things that were well known when A&M started their search, but he's saying he "thinks" that's what was happening.
I gave a like on this for Matt, he covered this very well. I think Coach Stoops at Kentucky sits very well? He has done some very good things at KY, sometimes as a fan, we get too spoiled? It may be great that Stoops made the decision to stay at KY, not just from losing players that were already committed to KY, but how would it feel to lose Stoops as a Coach, really.......These fans in Lexington dodge a bullet and, should be more thankful, right?
sources told ESPN on Sunday.
"Texas A&M and Duke's Mike Elko have reached an agreement to make him the school's next head coach.."
Guarantee that Texas A&M got Elko at a way lower cost they could get Stoops for. I think that ultimately decided it. If they didn’t offer Mark something WAY MORE than he’s making now then the right choice is to stay at KY. Glad we get to keep him. Also glad to see schools like A&M going after our head coach, love the guy and if an opportunity arises for him to make more with more resources than good for him 🫡
TX&M people had to go nuts when Stoops was approached! Geez....he can't go .500 in the $EC!
He would have been a BiG step backwards for them!
Personally I think it’s about the players .. would distrust a coach jumping ship after selling all these young guys on a dream. Stoops has a good opportunity to build on this season and will do so
As a Duke fan, I didn’t mind so much Coach Elko left Duke however it’s the way he left. two days ago Elko informed Duke and the players he was staying at Duke, however he packed up his family on a private plane and cowardly left town because he didn’t want to face Duke , the fans and the media after all the lies that were told!, my understanding was he never met with the Duke players in person to tell them he was leaving!
I am so glad to hear the A&M fans and players were in a complete revolt over the pending hiring of Mark Stoops. After all, a program with 3 national championships (1919, 1927, and 1939) deserves a true home run hire. I'm sure if you look, you can find someone still alive who seen at least one of those championship teams play. If you're real lucky, you may even find one of those folks who actually remember it.
Let's look at a little more recent history. Mark Stoops inherited a real shit show when he took over. 2-10, 5-7, and 5-7 the first 3 years. Since 2016, he is 21 games over 500, and A&M is what, 22 games above 500 with multiple top 5 recruiting classes, and now the richest NIL deal in college football. I for one realize and appreciate the fact that the Kentucky fan base is bitching and moaning because of only 7 wins.
As for the players for A&M, I'm really proud of them for standing their ground and demanding that the A&M administration hire a different coach. After all, a team that has that much talent and money who has accomplished so little should be able to hold the administration over a barrel. That bowl game they played last season was an instant classic. Oh, that's right, they didn't make a bowl game last year.
Glad to see Elko getting his chance in College Station. After all, he is the reigning ACC coach of the year (a lesser conference). I believe Stoops has a 2018 SEC coach of the year year award.
As we know, both coaches went 7-5 this season. I just hope these two teams get to play each other soon.
Lol ok enjoy your mark stoops. We don’t care
Copium of the highest order
@@mrskinszszs layout which part isn't true.
You dont want none
@@davidtoney8399 it's your overall tone that says it. I'm sorry Mark Stoops came back to your program with his tail between his legs. You'll get through it.
Did he go to Texas saturday night as some A&M sites say? IF so why fly to texas if you aren't saying yes?
No....he didnt fly to texas
Matt's take sounds right to me as it takes into account what was happening on both ends.
The story broken by a Kentucky TV sports reporter and not TexAgs like the video claimed.
@CBeasmoreSports at 8:03 pm and then confirmed on TexAgs by a post from Billy Liucci at 8:48 to confirm.
When the A&M fans found out and began the revolt, Stoops "changed" his mind shortly after thr BOR scheduled meeting Saturday night to discuss the hire.
Matt is wrong about that so I'm sure the rest is more gas lighting to make it appear better for Stoops.
There's literally nothing backing it up that A&M withdrew the offer
Look, we all know he was coming. As an Ag, I think the way we handled it was bullshit. Stoops didn't deserve the backlash TAMU gave him, and he's got every right to try and save face in front of his home crowd.
...but he was 100% coming.
Far as not understanding why Elko's a better fit for TAMU, don't know what to tell you. Maybe you don't need to know, but we got our guy. Hope you're good keeping yours.
Lol theres nothing backing that but rumor no matter how many times you say it
Aggie fan backlash probably caused A&M to pull their offer to Stoops.
Nobody wants a bad coach. But if you have a really good coach... you always have be concerned other teams are going to come after him.
What really happened the fan base of am hated stoops so you say what you want well I saw the tx am boards
Here’s the bottom line. Mark stoops wanted to go to Texas AM once he was denied by the boosters and fans he basically tucked his tail and came back to us. You can talk about the reasons NIL money ok cool whatever.
But still yet he wanted to leave Ky for Texas am and it looked really bad on him to not choose Ky first but instead he ended up keeping his job becauee the one promised to him said he couldn’t come.!
That was a complete media circus and it was drama that no Ky fan needed to deal with.
No one wants to believe that the beloved coach that we all came to love didn’t want us ! And didn’t want to stay here.
I mean at least at the bare minimum, Texas AM shouldn’t have said ANYTHING I mean at least hide it from all of us fans so it doesn’t put a bad taste In our mouth.
Yeah we can all be happy he stayed but it’s like have a girlfriend that stays with u because the other guy ended up staying with the guy she was with.
No one wants to be 2nd place with the coach
Your comparison is personal. Collegiate football is business that is filthier than the NFL. A & M spends more money than Kentucky on football, but if you look at results, Kentucky is on par with A & M. Tennessee has not been elite for 20 years, but you can see a little bit why they think they are top tier even though they're not. Just hilarious how A & M believes it's elite, no evidence to back that up.
Stoops dodged a landmine. He would be in rebuild mode again and it’s doubtful that TAMU would pony up Jimbo Fisher level money again. He’s also on a shorter leash at College Station compared to Lexington. He has a big recruiting class coming in.
Our big recruiting class is big for the nation, but still one of the wirst in the SEC. Without our dans and business significantly increasing NIL funds we cant compete
A&M Regents said no to Bork’s proposal. That is why the deal didn’t happen. Both schools won. Bork should be fired.
If you think Elko and Stoops are the same guy then I will take the cheaper one with ties to ATM. Bjork should have been fired for giving Jimbo that extension and he was sure to be fired if Stoops was his hire, considering the cost and fan reaction.
Stoops has to go! He doesn’t want to be here and we don’t want him.
I think Stoops and Elko would have or does now represent a huge upgrade in coaching for A&M. The list of grossly over paid coaches who have very poor leadership skills is a long one.
Kind of surprised Matt doesn't think the A&M fan reaction had any impact. Those fans have a lot to do with the NIL do they not.....soooooooo I kinda think that fan reaction did play a part in it. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
You need to check your stats if you think Stoops is better than Elko. A&M made the right decision, for a lot less money.
Lol… whatever helps you sleep? I don’t think the A&M side will officially deny this, they probably feel bad. I’m sure you are being fed the narrative Stoops wants you to think, but he doesn’t turn down the A&M job IF being in a much more competitive situation is important to him - it may not be, he’s been comfortable with a losing record in SEC play in the easier division for over a decade. He may not have wanted to go realizing the A&M fan base was in full revolt over Bjork trying to brink in a 35-55 coach? Elko can hit the job running, has much higher upside and know A&M!
Its so funny when Kentucky and Tennessee keep thinking they going to the sec championship game . This is their year.
the reason he didnt go to texas a&m is the a&m fans didnt want him there thats the bottom line....thats fact not i think this or that....they all but him signing the contract made a deal and the fans pretty much stopped the whole thing.....nobody down there wanted him thats fact and as you said believe how you want.
I think Mitch Barnhart needs to take a long look at Mark Stoops contract and figure out a way to get OUT of it for the same reason alot of Kentucky fans want, MORE then what mark Stoops can do for the Kentucky Football program, yes he has won more games then any other coach at the Kentucky Football program in twice the time then any of the other coaches at Kentucky, THE FANS are tired of year after year being a mediocrce SEC team and thats all Mark Stoops can do.
Im definitely a stoops supporter im glad he stayed because had he left im not sure who they could have hired to keep all this young talent. I really wish they could cap the Nil its ridiculous they cant A&M should be a powerhouse every season with no salary cap in BB it matters but nowhere near to the same degree when u compare 13 SS to 85... Its making it so hard to aquire depth. This team has some legit star power but people expecting 10 win seasons just arent being honest with themselves reason being with all the stars we lack so much depth at some of the most important positions then as soon as a guy is developed and blows up by his Soph year all the players come calling ie Auburn although Hayes has played awesome at NG after Rogers left.
I just wish some of these Millionaires and Billionaires would devise a plan for some type of IMG academy to help the state go from producing 15-25 D1 players (3-6 sec caliber) on average to 40-50. It would benefit all the in state programs.
Until the NCAA figures this out its gonna be tough to aquire any depth again as good as our team is we have huge holes on the O line-Secondary and even LB. 3-5 years ago those teams didnt have all the star power but we had legit depth at every position minus Qb and with better qb play we would have definitely fielded a better group of pass catchers.
If he does leave i just hope they truly swing for the fence and just dont settle a guy one state away. Hes perfect in that conference but to win in the SEC you gotta have 6-8 solid O lineman and 6_8 guys that are 275-330# in the midde of your defense. Last thing weve proven a elite HS talent RB can thrive here why cant we land at least 1 top 20 R-back in each cycle? Rant over great video fellas. Messaging from eastern KY. We are the v
Best most die HARD fans BTW
The other coaches know if they are going with him or not way before an offer. If it was a crap school that could change things. Aggie fans said no and big money pulled back. Bet he tries to leave again.
Elko got 6 yrs @$7MM per year. Stoops makes more than that now.
Stoops had as much of a chance of going to A&M as Cosmo Kramer. Get real.
Matt sounds an awful lot like Alex jones , voice wise and conspiracy theories lol 😂 I mean he did go to Duke 😮
only one problem, matt is a democrat, jones isn't.
Ross Bjork, A & M’S Athletic Director SHOULD BE FIRED! Why? He was there when they gave Jimbo that Ridiculous Contract with the INSANE GUARANTEE! Then he recommends Mark Stoops for the job but, bails once he realizes the Fans and Boosters reactions to his hire! You would think that he would assess their reaction to Stoops BEFORE HE MAKES THE OFFER TO HIM? Bjork talks until he’s blue in the face about LEADERSHIP! Does that look like Leadership to you?
One guy just got here and some had babies? You mean LIam Coen that just tried to leave for the Ohio state OC and the bears OC. Sure he didn’t want to leave
As a Kentucky fan I was really hoping on Liam Coen becoming head coach.
😂😂 why on earth would you think hes earned that??!
If you think that was stoops decision to stay you’re drunk
Well I understand starting over would have been brutal but 6 to 8 wins is what to expect going forward
I’ve seen a lot of 2 to 4 win years, 6 to 8 sure beats that.
Personally ai think Stoops dodged a bullet. A&M is a great school but with some of the rituals they do, its almost cult-like.
look at his record at kentucky, we would have just kept jimbo....no thanks!!!!!!!!! GIG'EM!!!!
5:31 Matt is telling us he’s like Alexander Hamilton? He was “in the room where it happened”?😂
If that’s the case, do tell:
Malone’s or Jeff Ruby’s?
Or Carson’s or Cole’s perhaps?
If you say KSBar then I call BS 🙃
Spin it however you want to Matt, bottom Linus that the boosters and the people holding the money didn’t want him. He’s mediocre at best.
Bjork needs to be fired no matter who those losers have a coach. Keep trying to buy that championship.
Mike Elko has a history with A&M. Elko was an incredible defensive coordinator during Jimbo’s reign of terror (the terror belonged to the fan base, not our opponents). So with that history, Mike Elko is already adjusted to A&M culture and already enjoys a certain amount of popularity . That is the only reason Aggie fans are somewhat more comfortable with Elko over Stoops.
However, I agree that Mike Elko isn’t much of a step up from Stoops.
A&M Boffed the heck out of their coaching search and produced lemons. The AD at A&M should be fired for how poorly he handled the entire situation.
Out of all the choices the Aggies could have made coaching selections from, Stoops and Elko should have been top 10… but certainly not in top 3.
No offense meant to UK fans.
I’m a disappointed Aggie, and I approve this message.
I mean, you're probably at least partially right. But Stoops was also a DC under Jimbo, only he won an NC in that same role at FSU. I'm super glad Stoops stayed and I hope he gets a bigger NIL commitment, but I think there's a good chance some TaMu fans are gonna regret that initial reaction to hiring Mark in a few years. Time will tell.
Also, unless he was just blowing smoke, he said he liked College Station and living there and he made it clear that he wouldn't leave A&M for another DC job, but then he was offered a HC job.
I can't say that I believe you, but I will say that your story makes more sense than the shit show story coming from aTm, that makes them look like clowns.
A&M fans crack me up. You are just Kentucky of the west. The problem is, you don't know it. All that money and nowhere near the SEC championship. Now that your big brother and Oklahoma are coming into the league, you become Vandy. Elko got housed by bad teams this year. Good luck with that. You deserve it.
Elko is a much better coach. That shot at him was ridiculous. Stoops won’t ever win over 8 games.
Really? Already has 2 10 win seasons at Kentucky and was the 2018 SEC coach of the year. Elko, I believe went 7-5 this year and was shut out by Louisville 23-0, you know the team that the Mark Stoops coached Kentucky Wildcats just beat.
So, do you actually believe Elko can do what a national championship coach couldn't do with all that talent and the richest NIL setup in college football? Good luck.
So another Matt bs sessions.
If you are trying to say Kentucky is better than the A&M job. You honestly lose all credibility
He lost me when he says A&M has the biggest NIL in the country. A&M is up there definitely, but there's a few Universities that have more money than A&M
@@jamesellis701 Name the. On 11/13/23 the athletics department received a $160 million dollar donation if you don’t believe me look it up. They are by far the richest athletic department in the country. Only Texas compares
@@dennynutt If you can’t figure that out. You must have been in a special class
What reality are you living in? Stoops is still employed.
@@kenjf1009 What are you talking about? Did I ever say he was unemployed?
Texags is a joke.
If you think elko is a better coach than stoops, i have some ocean front property in kentucky to sell you
Oh he wanted the job no doubt
Go Vols !
Sorta the same way the Tennessee fans ran off Greg Schino after he had taken the job and look at UT now there no better off.
Just making stuff up for clicks
I agree they have the best NIL and all of that but I am not so sure its a great or even better job. They have historically been an 8 win team and for some reason they have the idea that they should win the title every year like they are alabama or something. It would be incredible hard to live up to expectations there and to top it off their biggest recruiting foe is moving into the conference.
I don't fault your take, but as someone who has been following Aggies football closely since the Southwest Conference days, let me fill in the blanks. We have a chip on our shoulder. We didn't start a winning tradition until the 70's, and we admittedly did poorly in the Big 12 (one conference title). Once Texas tried to flex and keep the lions share of the Big 12 money and have its own network, we left. When we left we made a commitment to start winning, and big. So far it hasn't paid off, besides an 11-2 year with Manziel and 9-1 under Fisher. Fisher proved that when Elko left, so did the discipline. While we wanted a homerun hire, eventually I think we made the right choice by bringing back the man who made 9-1 possible.
@@benw1656 you may have made a "commitment" to winning but looking at the last 20 years you are averaging 7.65 wins a season. So the job itself is not a good job looking at the overall history and then realizing the expectations are somehow the same as bama
@@Squantoon Since joining the SEC we are 97-53, 4th best in the SEC over that stretch behind LSU, Bama and Georgia. Better than Texas too. We have been consistently very good, we are trying to become great. We have the facilities, we have the support and we sure as hell have the money and the roster. Why the hell wouldn't it be a great job? We aren't a team that has a ton of titles right now, but stop trying to rationalize that we aren't a top destination for a coach.
@@benw1656 none of this erases that you are a 7.65 win a year team over the last 20 years. Going to a place with this history but the expectations of something far better than that is not a good job imo. Can disagree all you want.
@@Squantoon Cherry picking data and relying on that cherry picked data as your only argument. As I said, 2012 is when we committed to the football team, so why would anything before that matter.
#7 according to USA today in total 2022 AD revenues. 100,000 seat stadium. Top 50 ranked overall for education by US News. 247Sports ranked #2 ranked facilities with $100 million invested just last year for more improvements. #4 in team talent according to 247Sports. Not to mention some of the wealthiest and most generous boosters in the world.
So please give up the talking point, "7.65 wins."