No because whoever wrote the line " I'd castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat" absolutely knows what they're doing and I just personally need to give them a hug
What separates the Tom/Greg minion relationship from the Logan/Tom relationship is the bromance aspect. And with the on/off Shiv relationship, I love the idea of the three of them evetually being this little sort of family. (Remember that Shiv was who Greg backed in his first test (Shiv v. Roman, about bringing docs and a sweater to the hospital in early season 1.) The combination of "Ride or Die, unless I have to destroy you, but even then on some level we're still Ride or Die" just never gets old for me.
when i first watched the scene where tom kisses greg on the forehead i thought he was going for the lips and in that split second a genuine wave of horror and disgust washed through me .... i (a gay person) experienced, for the first time in my life, the sensation of being homophobic, and i can't say it wasnt a little bit exhilarating
I love these two in scenes together. It's like a totally dysfunctional, abusive business relationship and yet endearing friendship at times and hilarious all at the same time. Tom cracks me up and then in his scenes with Shiv you can totally see why he treats Greg the way he does because he feels powerless in his marriage.
I don’t think just saying Tom feels powerless in his marriage really covers it. Tom is ambitious and driven. He is wound up so tight. Does he even love Shiv? I doubt it; it’s way more likely he threw everything into seducing her to get closer to Logan and Waystar and billions of dollars. So he is constantly looking for any little edge he can get, and cutting anyone who gets in his way. And in that world, everyone around him is doing the same thing. It’s incredibly stressful and he’s seemingly on the edge of insanity at all times. But with Greg, Tom saw a bit of himself, but in a kind of hapless, nonthreatening form. He saw someone he could trust, in a way, and that’s not something he has with anyone else (including Shiv). So in this scene Tom feels like he’s losing control of the one relationship that he felt any degree of certainty about.
I think Tom loved Shiv, at least he did before the end of it all. I don't really understand the reading that he seduced Shiv to get to Waystar-Royco, a lot of his decisions and reactions wrt their relationship don't make any sense if you assume he's just being a complete cynic. Why would he be so hurt by Shiv saying she didn't love him? Why would he just come out and tell her, "I like money, I like nice things" if he wanted to dupe her? It just isn't a reading that fits his character. Him getting the CEO position at the end isn't supposed to be some great victory for him. The actual Successor, Lukas, just grabbed a random drone who wouldn't make a fuss, and Tom fit the bill. It was established earlier that none of the people doing the corporate work had any respect for him, so seeing them all line up to glaze him at the end rings completely hollow, as it was intended to. The reason he keeps Greg around isn't because he's particularly useful as a corporate asset, it's because he earnestly cares about him. That, and bullying Greg is good stress relief.
@@wildoesthings a really, REALLY dark sitcom. The interplay on: "It's a big book." "is it a good book?" "Yeah, it's a decent book." is Spinal Tap/ UK Office level amazing....ly awkward
It all clicked when I saw that Will Ferrel is an executive producer. It's mixing sitcom tropes with this very raw drama and when you take the pieces apart you can sorta see the influences.
No but really that little split second piece of dialogue when Greg tells Tom he just got paid and Tom is genuinely proud of him and happy for him with the "atta boy!" is too cute.
tom: pals? yes? would you kiss me 0.0 if i asked you to? if i told you to? tom (internally): i'm doing great. this is a completely normal way to speak to someone i just met.
the moment that changed everything for me was 2:31 - because i was FULLY expecting Tom to not have the napkin over his face and start to openly mock Greg for falling for it, but he did it too!
it's the most innocuous line but well, cool- i actually uhh i finally got paid yeah looks like theyre not paying the light bill here but um but i actually got paid and i was thinking about maybe going to have you ever visited the uh the california pizza kitchen it's pretty delicious, tom they make a cajun chicken linguine just how i like it that's pretty much my favorite piece of spoken word of the contemporary era
I don't know yet what it is either, but this scene melts my heart everytime. I feel more alive and at peace with my existence as a whole when I see his face saying these lines.
When you think about it, Greg really has been working from a very low position. Stealing cookies from the office to be able to eat. Finally getting paid wanting to go get a pizza. I honestly think that kind of journey holds him in higher regard with Logan than any of the children. Sure, he didn't have it as tough as Logan, but he has fought hard. And at this point of season 4 we will see some more malevolent sides of him I think.
@@B3astMass Well he was asking if people were talking about him, then he tried to secure a job while Logan was in critical condition in the hospital and the family was worried. It comes across as rude and self-centered. Sure, the audience knows that Greg is broke and desperate, but Tom doesn't know that.
what is the heterosexual explanation for this. honestly. i understand the power dynamic helps us understand both tom and greg as characters but some of the sh*t they say? the blatant flirting? where is this headed if not towards some weird little romance?
@@johncouch587 tom's behavior towards greg goes quite a bit beyond friendly lol the guy is psychosexually obsessed. has nothing to do with porn, this is something readily apparent to most watchers of the show. you're the odd one out.
I‘ve heard about this ship before I started watching the show (am in the midst of season 2 now) and I remember getting more curious as to what made people ship them during season 1 because I didn’t see the appeal back then (I do now!) so I just literally typed „Succession Tom and Greg“ into the google search bar and got *tons* of results of *actual serious journalists* writing analytical articles about them being the best „couple“ on the show and that they should have been canon. Honestly that‘s when you know it‘s a convincing ship lmao 💀 I think it‘ll take some time for me to finish the show but oh boy am I looking forward to more of this haha
@@NewYasmine-nl9jq The article wasn’t satire. That’s why I’ve said the journalist said that they “SHOULD HAVE BEEN canon” and not that they “ARE canon” :)
I've mentioned this before on other videos and subreddits - but Tom always calls Greg "Greg" (well, more like GGgggReeeegahhhh!") but Greg rarely calls Tom "Tom" and when he does it pisses Tom off.
I think, obviously, it’s more of a relationship that Tom likes having power over Greg vs actually being attracted to him. He likes being the dominating person in their relationship and any defiance makes him really upset. I don’t think this will ever go past these types of low key gay interactions and we shouldn’t be mad at that.
Tom: What do you know about Nero and Sporus? Me, watching this for the first time: Absolutely nothing, but I get the feeling this is about to be the gayest shit since the fall of the Roman empire 🍿🍿 Me, 30 Seconds Full Later: And.... I was right. 🙃
Tom is my favourite character in Succession. Greg does not have as much screen time or development to be number 1, but their pseudo-friendship is one of the defining aspects of Succession. When Greg thanks Tom for not squealing when playing "find the sausage" and Tom says, "It's ok, Greg" and lays a tender hand on his arm is brilliantly funny and touching. Tom knows who he is: Obsequious, nasty and vindictive and a total a**eho^^ to all below him in society. But he knows this, doesn't hide it or try to change to suit others. The Roy children on the other hand "think" they know who they are but are deluded and this delusion causes all of their woes. President Connor, Kendall the messiah, Shiv the eco-lib- saviour and Roman the odd-ball all with Daddy issues and fighting for their Dad's approval. Fascinating character studies and anything from Jesse Armstrong is always top-notch (check out "Peep Show" and "The Thick of It" my US cousins).
a friend told me about these two & i got curious & found this video so the title seems perfect lol (i don't go here but i am somewhat invested now huh)
I wanted to watch succession and when I searched the characters tomgreg was everywhere and the first episode when Tom asked Greg if he could kiss him , I was thinking he was going to cheat on shiv with Greg eventually. The fact that I saw an article explain each couple and there was tomgreg before I watched it, so I was expecting a lot but I got over it after season 1.
Tom is actually a really good person its just he understood that in corporate surroundings he has to be a cuthroat to get where he wants to get. He sees in Gregg the innosence and probably himself 15-20 years ago and he offers to take care of him because nobody every took care of him. Tom teases, bullies and bellitles Gregg but when push goes to shove, Tom always protected Gregg. When there was a possibility for Gregg to end up in prison Tom accepted to take all the blame. When Gregg's job was hanging in the balance, Tom kept him and probably gave him a nice sallary and his own Greggs. Tom actually did appreciate everything Gregg did for him and its the opposite of Shiv when it comes to recipriprocating what others are doing for him
![Natti Natasha - Quiéreme Menos [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R57RrTjRGxk/mqdefault.jpg)
No because whoever wrote the line " I'd castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat" absolutely knows what they're doing and I just personally need to give them a hug
It is ssssuch a sensational line and delivered masterfully by Matthew.
What separates the Tom/Greg minion relationship from the Logan/Tom relationship is the bromance aspect. And with the on/off Shiv relationship, I love the idea of the three of them evetually being this little sort of family. (Remember that Shiv was who Greg backed in his first test (Shiv v. Roman, about bringing docs and a sweater to the hospital in early season 1.)
The combination of "Ride or Die, unless I have to destroy you, but even then on some level we're still Ride or Die" just never gets old for me.
There’s a fine line between love and abducting someone and making them leave in your castle.
sporus and nero
when i first watched the scene where tom kisses greg on the forehead i thought he was going for the lips and in that split second a genuine wave of horror and disgust washed through me .... i (a gay person) experienced, for the first time in my life, the sensation of being homophobic, and i can't say it wasnt a little bit exhilarating
This is an amazing paragraph
Saw a screenshot of this comment on tumblr, you’ve hit a cultural nerve
@@sebdoesnothing6889 SEND POST?? that is so funny
Just saw this on tumblr today holy shit
@@kittenloverj please send me the post i feel obliged to reblog
A ‘business open relationship’ must’ve killed Tom
every time i see watch line i gaspppp
Especially at this point in the series Greg has been the most consistent thing since his relationship with shiv is very obviously broken at this time
I burst out laughing
that was the last straw for him
The absolutw worse thing he coulda said at that moment lol
"Can't make a Tommlete without breaking some Gregs" makes me lol
Possibly the best sentence ever.
That line alone made me start watching the show
@@Rose-hh7mk the One-liners in this show are full bore, they Go full Fucking Nut nut
I love these two in scenes together. It's like a totally dysfunctional, abusive business relationship and yet endearing friendship at times and hilarious all at the same time. Tom cracks me up and then in his scenes with Shiv you can totally see why he treats Greg the way he does because he feels powerless in his marriage.
just @ me i resigned a long time ago and have attempted to get myself arrested just to expedite this mercy killing
I don’t think just saying Tom feels powerless in his marriage really covers it. Tom is ambitious and driven. He is wound up so tight. Does he even love Shiv? I doubt it; it’s way more likely he threw everything into seducing her to get closer to Logan and Waystar and billions of dollars.
So he is constantly looking for any little edge he can get, and cutting anyone who gets in his way. And in that world, everyone around him is doing the same thing. It’s incredibly stressful and he’s seemingly on the edge of insanity at all times.
But with Greg, Tom saw a bit of himself, but in a kind of hapless, nonthreatening form. He saw someone he could trust, in a way, and that’s not something he has with anyone else (including Shiv). So in this scene Tom feels like he’s losing control of the one relationship that he felt any degree of certainty about.
I think Tom loved Shiv, at least he did before the end of it all. I don't really understand the reading that he seduced Shiv to get to Waystar-Royco, a lot of his decisions and reactions wrt their relationship don't make any sense if you assume he's just being a complete cynic. Why would he be so hurt by Shiv saying she didn't love him? Why would he just come out and tell her, "I like money, I like nice things" if he wanted to dupe her? It just isn't a reading that fits his character.
Him getting the CEO position at the end isn't supposed to be some great victory for him. The actual Successor, Lukas, just grabbed a random drone who wouldn't make a fuss, and Tom fit the bill. It was established earlier that none of the people doing the corporate work had any respect for him, so seeing them all line up to glaze him at the end rings completely hollow, as it was intended to.
The reason he keeps Greg around isn't because he's particularly useful as a corporate asset, it's because he earnestly cares about him. That, and bullying Greg is good stress relief.
lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship.
this is like a sitcom when u cut out all the other shit
no its. like. a sitcom the whole time. lmao
@@wildoesthings a really, REALLY dark sitcom. The interplay on:
"It's a big book."
"is it a good book?"
"Yeah, it's a decent book."
is Spinal Tap/ UK Office level amazing....ly awkward
YESSS UK OFFICE. i’ve never heard anyone compare it to that before
It all clicked when I saw that Will Ferrel is an executive producer. It's mixing sitcom tropes with this very raw drama and when you take the pieces apart you can sorta see the influences.
@@PlaylistGeneralAnd more importantly it's created by Jesse Armstrong who wrote peep show, among other things.
the random man in the scene where greg is “breaking up” with tom is so funny he must’ve felt so awkward
“it’s not like they pre-poop them” 😭😭😭
absolutely deranged. we stan.
Succession is a show where I thrive on the chaotic toxicity.
Never seen this show but the tumblr girlies won't stop talking about this ship
I'm back and I hate this show. I'm on season 2
we got another one boys
Same idk if I could handle it othern than Tom and Greg
@@brookesingleton1553 Personally I find this show hilarious. Roman Roy degeneracy supremacy tho
@@meowm12 I have to know. How did you find season 3
the Nero and Sporus speech is an all timer.
placing the hair behind the ear in 2:38 tells me all I need to know.😭
No but really that little split second piece of dialogue when Greg tells Tom he just got paid and Tom is genuinely proud of him and happy for him with the "atta boy!" is too cute.
i haven't watched succession but wow y'all are not lying. they are sooo ??????????????? together. wow. WOW.
have you watched it yet?
tom: pals? yes? would you kiss me 0.0 if i asked you to? if i told you to?
tom (internally): i'm doing great. this is a completely normal way to speak to someone i just met.
he won at being normal that day 👍
The marvelous acting of Matthew Macfadyen is making this show infinitely legendary!
We support gay wrongs
“I’d castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat ❤” one of the greatest and most romantic confessions of love that has ever existed
there is something seriously wrong with these two. i want to watch more immediately
pretty good show
S3 was huge for Tomgreg
i love them and support them in their insanity
Hey, where's "red sequoia/bullet train/prove it"?!
ikr! but tbf that was a nick ad lib lol
the moment that changed everything for me was 2:31 - because i was FULLY expecting Tom to not have the napkin over his face and start to openly mock Greg for falling for it, but he did it too!
They have dumb and dumber dynamic
it's the most innocuous line but well, cool- i actually uhh i finally got paid yeah looks like theyre not paying the light bill here but um but i actually got paid and i was thinking about maybe going to have you ever visited the uh the california pizza kitchen it's pretty delicious, tom they make a cajun chicken linguine just how i like it that's pretty much my favorite piece of spoken word of the contemporary era
he’s so scrunkly
I don't know yet what it is either, but this scene melts my heart everytime. I feel more alive and at peace with my existence as a whole when I see his face saying these lines.
When you think about it, Greg really has been working from a very low position. Stealing cookies from the office to be able to eat. Finally getting paid wanting to go get a pizza. I honestly think that kind of journey holds him in higher regard with Logan than any of the children. Sure, he didn't have it as tough as Logan, but he has fought hard. And at this point of season 4 we will see some more malevolent sides of him I think.
which is so ridiculous. that his grandfather ewan hasn’t made him feel like he can come to him for 1k for food for the month
@@sophiel4773 actually insane
“It’s just a mental barrier”😂
7:36 I JUIST LOST MY SHIT LAUGHING WHEN THE CAT PICTURE CAME UP I DID NOT EXPECTT HAT-
this video goes out to all of you tomgreg deniers
The true power couple
insanity. insanity in this chillis tonight
a "business open relationship" makes me howl with laughter. probably going to hell laughing at Tom's reaction
"we're good?.. We're GOUHD?!?!!!!"
You truly cannot make a tomlett without a gregg
You gotta break a few greggs to make a tomlette
The incident in the hospital was
the only time Greg really deserved that verbal abuse.
How’d you mean?
@@B3astMass Well he was asking if people were talking about him, then he tried to secure a job while Logan was in critical condition in the hospital and the family was worried. It comes across as rude and self-centered. Sure, the audience knows that Greg is broke and desperate, but Tom doesn't know that.
Tom literally just stole his entire personality from Regina George from Mean Girls.
“A business open relationship”
We need a spin-off of Greg and Tom
these dudes deserve a spinoff.. it would totally top succession.
Gay, gay, homosexual, gay
The way this is edited has me biting my cheek to not cackle and wake my entire household.
im literally going insane why are they like this
If I can’t find somebody that looks at me the way Tom looks at Greg at 2:21 I don’t want any of it 😂
Ngl this is the gayist thing I've watched since birdcage
YES I've thought this. Succession tom and greg leave waystar and open a gay bar in florida
@@bironicus They end up killing eachother. Love wins
i literally cant believe they fucking won
Man my Gaydar is so broken. It never even crossed my mind as a possibility until watching this. Lol the Nero bit I totally forgot about.
cringe; the tom has fallen in love with the greg ://
he’s not the only one :(
This show is really quite an endearing display when these two are on screen
i love tomgreg what the hell is wrong with them
what is the heterosexual explanation for this. honestly. i understand the power dynamic helps us understand both tom and greg as characters but some of the sh*t they say? the blatant flirting? where is this headed if not towards some weird little romance?
Its just guys being dudes
genuinely i'm so curious to see what will happen in the last season like there is no feasible way to have them end up as just friends so like ?????
Are men not allowed to be friendly and affectionate to one another? Does that always have to be gay to your porn addicted brain?
@@johncouch587 no they’re not allowed men exist to fuck men
@@johncouch587 tom's behavior towards greg goes quite a bit beyond friendly lol the guy is psychosexually obsessed. has nothing to do with porn, this is something readily apparent to most watchers of the show. you're the odd one out.
The final scene of those two on the final episode made the entire downfall of everyone else worth it. I love those two so much.
I‘ve heard about this ship before I started watching the show (am in the midst of season 2 now) and I remember getting more curious as to what made people ship them during season 1 because I didn’t see the appeal back then (I do now!) so I just literally typed „Succession Tom and Greg“ into the google search bar and got *tons* of results of *actual serious journalists* writing analytical articles about them being the best „couple“ on the show and that they should have been canon.
Honestly that‘s when you know it‘s a convincing ship lmao 💀
I think it‘ll take some time for me to finish the show but oh boy am I looking forward to more of this haha
Upon finishing it I was genuinely surprised they never had a thing even once. Like the sexual tension between those two is INSANE
That article was probably satire. They aren't a thing.
@@NewYasmine-nl9jq The article wasn’t satire. That’s why I’ve said the journalist said that they “SHOULD HAVE BEEN canon” and not that they “ARE canon” :)
@@lara3540 Oh I see what you mean now, got ya
good for them
The writing on this show... A C E S
tom is my favourite horrible gay person. my meow meow :3
I've mentioned this before on other videos and subreddits - but Tom always calls Greg "Greg" (well, more like GGgggReeeegahhhh!") but Greg rarely calls Tom "Tom" and when he does it pisses Tom off.
Possibly one of the best mashups ever done. Your opinion is V A L I D.
gay. GAY
Be who you are!!
i have never seen succession this video is honestly frightening
These both are so amazing in this role
ok. ok. I see it now. It's all coming together.
lowkey this dynamic is literally me and my male friend who possibly has a crush on me
wait but who's who
@@vlad5042 for me im kinda like greg in early seasons and my friend is like tom and we’re both succession fans
Are you guys married now?
@@rodneypole7477 😂
S-TIER CAPTIONING
are they.. you know 💅
I think, obviously, it’s more of a relationship that Tom likes having power over Greg vs actually being attracted to him. He likes being the dominating person in their relationship and any defiance makes him really upset. I don’t think this will ever go past these types of low key gay interactions and we shouldn’t be mad at that.
true but “low key”?
Tom: What do you know about Nero and Sporus?
Me, watching this for the first time: Absolutely nothing, but I get the feeling this is about to be the gayest shit since the fall of the Roman empire 🍿🍿
Me, 30 Seconds Full Later: And.... I was right. 🙃
Please dont censor profanity in the captions unless theyre censored in the audio too! Makes it less accessible
✨boy best friends✨
This was easily one of the most hilarious duos ever. They were my favorite part of the show.
Tom is my favourite character in Succession. Greg does not have as much screen time or development to be number 1, but their pseudo-friendship is one of the defining aspects of Succession. When Greg thanks Tom for not squealing when playing "find the sausage" and Tom says, "It's ok, Greg" and lays a tender hand on his arm is brilliantly funny and touching. Tom knows who he is: Obsequious, nasty and vindictive and a total a**eho^^ to all below him in society. But he knows this, doesn't hide it or try to change to suit others. The Roy children on the other hand "think" they know who they are but are deluded and this delusion causes all of their woes. President Connor, Kendall the messiah, Shiv the eco-lib- saviour and Roman the odd-ball all with Daddy issues and fighting for their Dad's approval. Fascinating character studies and anything from Jesse Armstrong is always top-notch (check out "Peep Show" and "The Thick of It" my US cousins).
They may be my two most favorite television characters ever lol. Tom's voice immediately makes me crack uo 😂
a friend told me about these two & i got curious & found this video so the title seems perfect lol (i don't go here but i am somewhat invested now huh)
rewatching this and the 👈 the tom has fallen in love with the his wife's cousin! got to me so bad i luaghed and chortled and now my tummy hurts :(
i've watched this video so many times that when I type in yout it autofills, thus making me watch it more. thank you.
Greg has always been Tom's Shiv whipping boy.
Thank you for your service
This was the most fun relationship to watch, so crazy!
HOMOSEXUALS RUINED MY LIFE 💔💔💔
Their dynamic is really sick
Attack dog, the Gregweiler
Ya can't make a Tomlette without breaking some Greggs! 😅😂
This is amazing
and now hes won his second emmy
Can you make one of all tomgreg moments from the whole show? I’m curious to see the show through that lens now that it’s over lol
Cant believe this is the same dude that plays Mr.Darcy
I will not let go of what is mine😂😂
gay people are real huh
Teeheee he is so baby gurl 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
I love Mr.Darcy!! Should I watch this show?
If you want to see Mr. Darcy being a deranged terrible batshit insane little weirdo
no...as a wise person once said this is for your own good
it's me, im the friend
I wanted to watch succession and when I searched the characters tomgreg was everywhere and the first episode when Tom asked Greg if he could kiss him , I was thinking he was going to cheat on shiv with Greg eventually. The fact that I saw an article explain each couple and there was tomgreg before I watched it, so I was expecting a lot but I got over it after season 1.
Just realized why i like tom/greg so much. Its just louis and lestat but a different font.
wow
Wow this was a rollercoaster but i think ive landed on never watching this show ever. I hope you understand x.
To make a tomlette you gotta break a couple greggs
Tom is actually a really good person its just he understood that in corporate surroundings he has to be a cuthroat to get where he wants to get.
He sees in Gregg the innosence and probably himself 15-20 years ago and he offers to take care of him because nobody every took care of him.
Tom teases, bullies and bellitles Gregg but when push goes to shove, Tom always protected Gregg.
When there was a possibility for Gregg to end up in prison Tom accepted to take all the blame.
When Gregg's job was hanging in the balance, Tom kept him and probably gave him a nice sallary and his own Greggs.
Tom actually did appreciate everything Gregg did for him and its the opposite of Shiv when it comes to recipriprocating what others are doing for him
Mhmm… I don’t about you, but I smell something fruity in the air, babe
Dude i love that for you
Fuck. I have to watch this show now??? Fml