I think one of the most beautiful planes flying today. I am not sure why this has not been more of a flight standard for small and medium and larger companies. Efficiency personified.
correct and they claim something like 15% of the total lift from that shape, but the real kicker is the THREE lifting surfaces so L/D is fantastic, and requires less thrust to go faster. I designed something extremely similar in my second year of aero studies at USC, but thought it would not be acceptable. Little did I know that Learjet and Ohio St were working on this thing at the same time. My canard and wing root were a bit different, otherwise it was the same planform.
I saw one flying out of Broughton airport in Wales (Airbus wings factory) a couple of days ago, absolutely fascinating, I’d love to fly in one but at my age and my pension I’m afraid it’s a pleasure that will elude me.
"Salami Rocket!" I'm glad they are still in production. Incredible unique design. I'm sure it was a great marketing move to go with Ferrari. Would have been interesting to see if partnering with Lamborghini had made a difference.
German like slogans, a word that they count on, we like the company slogan "fly different" and we will beside we count on our wells that much heavier than words.
I love that designer plane. I'd like to test how to pilot this plane. Should be very good...I'm very interested to know about performance's plane. I flown jets since 1992 and turboprop before, but this plane seems to be very special plane to fly...
I think it is a beautiful private airplane. Me able to get one which I can't "like many of the people bitching and complaining in-here", unless they give it to me for free, I would not have Props but 4 nice small turbines, two for use and 2 for emergencies. I also have to say to some of the people commenting here, that this is not a commercial airline plane. It is a private plane and you can customize it to meet your needs. I have seen images with different custom jobs and they look amazing.
It's crazy noisy and the props are susceptible to foreign object damage. You could never land on unimproved fields or even bituminous runways. A few years ago, I read an article about the downfall of the Beech 2000 Starship, which had a similar configuration. The 2000 had many shortcomings, but one large factor that lead to its impracticality was the damage to the props caused by the main gear kicking up gravel. Then again, people buy Bentleys. People will buy this.
It’s actually not loud in the cabin whatsoever. My family owns one out of Oregon. We can sit there and have a normal conversation and hear everything just fine. This airplane has its maintenance costs issues however is an amazing airplane. Previous plane was an aero commander. Much louder.
@@pdbbndorco2452 Last time I looked at Sunriver Airport on Google maps, your P180 was on the taxiway! Can you expand on what the maintenance cost issues have been for you? Also, how is the comfort in the passenger cabin? Does not look like the seats could recline much, but maybe they do. How is the air conditioning? Also wondering about typical cruise speeds and actual fuel usage. I love the design and specs of the Piaggio, but never have found much regarding these questions. Thanks from a fellow Oregonian for any reply.
I guess I saw one of the Piaggio Avanti this Monday (2015-Aug-10) over Latvia, don't know if it was Polish aircraft or some else. If first noticed it even before I saw it, because the sound was quite unusual, nothing like a jet or one of the passenger or cargo turboprops.
It's pretty well etablished that pusher props are not more efficient. Tractor props bite clean air in front of the plane. Pusher props bite turbulent air behind the plane. Comparing planes to boats is stupid. Ships don't have propellers in front because they would be destroyed if it ran aground.
So to what do you attribute the P180’s ability to fly faster (402 kts) than any other production twin turboprop while still having very low fuel usage (98 gph), all with a roomy stand-up cabin? That seems like the definition of efficiency to me. I think you neglect to consider the downside of tractor props: they bite clean air, but then push some of it directly into the fuselage or wing, thus wasting some of the potential thrust and making it impossible to design the wings and fuselage for laminar airflow, which is a major reason for the Piaggio’s efficiency. The trade off is that the props create more noise, which is a great trade off for the flyer, but not for they person who built or bought a home next to the airport and thought there would not be noise. Oops.
9 лет назад
Il n'est pas élégant, mais je le trouve beau quelque part...
Good Morning!One of the most beautiful planes in the world.I would love to travel at least once in my life in PIAGGIO AVANTI.
A pusher!!! Beautiful, and canards, wow. Gorgeous, and love even the way the gear retract. Amazing machine.
VIVA ITALIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!from Australia
I think one of the most beautiful planes flying today. I am not sure why this has not been more of a flight standard for small and medium and larger companies. Efficiency personified.
It IS the best aerodynamically design in the world! Even it’s fuselage is shaped like a giant “airfoil”!
correct and they claim something like 15% of the total lift from that shape, but the real kicker is the THREE lifting surfaces so L/D is fantastic, and requires less thrust to go faster. I designed something extremely similar in my second year of aero studies at USC, but thought it would not be acceptable. Little did I know that Learjet and Ohio St were working on this thing at the same time. My canard and wing root were a bit different, otherwise it was the same planform.
Absolutely
this was always my dream plane... i dont know why, but, yeah.
I saw one flying out of Broughton airport in Wales (Airbus wings factory) a couple of days ago, absolutely fascinating, I’d love to fly in one but at my age and my pension I’m afraid it’s a pleasure that will elude me.
"Dear Santa...."
Beautiful bird
very well done...Id love to see in person the interiors of one of these unique sounding aircraft....well done!
belissimo!
Like the old Cessna Skymaster a pusher, that had an engine in the front as well as in the back.
I love it
I would buy one of this instead of a jet private plane, If I had the money. 🇮🇹
Bro u are rich person
Such a beauty 😍 Italian design art love it sleek fast and sexy
That is one sexy airplane.
This to me is a logic design props in push configuration so the props do not create drag for there own advancement.
"Salami Rocket!" I'm glad they are still in production. Incredible unique design. I'm sure it was a great marketing move to go with Ferrari. Would have been interesting to see if partnering with Lamborghini had made a difference.
Its called elegance in a plane
I want one.
PARA ENAMORARSE!!!!!!!
Piaggio vespa Aprilia avanti they makes worlds finest scooters&aircraft
With carnad wing in front, no stability issues matters and good leisure experience in flight...
Really is a very nice looking aircraft. You think more would be flying.
In Poland use this model as air emergency.
Fly DifferentLY
Is this plane rated for single pilot?
German like slogans, a word that they count on, we like the company slogan "fly different" and we will beside we count on our wells that much heavier than words.
@thegeckoproduction sorry, but i can't very good understand english. does that mean that makes some noise?
Me likey!!!!!!!!!
The Ferrari of the skys.
I love that designer plane. I'd like to test how to pilot this plane. Should be very good...I'm very interested to know about performance's plane. I flown jets since 1992 and turboprop before, but this plane seems to be very special plane to fly...
How do you tell and Avanti from an Avanti 2 from the outside
How in the world does that gear retraction work?
I think it is a beautiful private airplane. Me able to get one which I can't "like many of the people bitching and complaining in-here", unless they give it to me for free, I would not have Props but 4 nice small turbines, two for use and 2 for emergencies. I also have to say to some of the people commenting here, that this is not a commercial airline plane. It is a private plane and you can customize it to meet your needs. I have seen images with different custom jobs and they look amazing.
it would be nice if they also built the engines
Piaggio vespa amazing scooter same like avanti
You might also mention their Ape threewheeler :-).
Fiat uno of the skies
It's crazy noisy and the props are susceptible to foreign object damage. You could never land on unimproved fields or even bituminous runways. A few years ago, I read an article about the downfall of the Beech 2000 Starship, which had a similar configuration. The 2000 had many shortcomings, but one large factor that lead to its impracticality was the damage to the props caused by the main gear kicking up gravel.
Then again, people buy Bentleys. People will buy this.
It’s actually not loud in the cabin whatsoever. My family owns one out of Oregon. We can sit there and have a normal conversation and hear everything just fine. This airplane has its maintenance costs issues however is an amazing airplane.
Previous plane was an aero commander. Much louder.
@@pdbbndorco2452 Its not loud inside the cabin, the problem is outside, and if they solved that then many more would buy the Avanti.
@@pdbbndorco2452 Last time I looked at Sunriver Airport on Google maps, your P180 was on the taxiway!
Can you expand on what the maintenance cost issues have been for you? Also, how is the comfort in the passenger cabin? Does not look like the seats could recline much, but maybe they do. How is the air conditioning? Also wondering about typical cruise speeds and actual fuel usage. I love the design and specs of the Piaggio, but never have found much regarding these questions. Thanks from a fellow Oregonian for any reply.
what happens when ice comes off the wing??
The Piaggio has an incredible device fitted which automatically shreds any wing ice. Just amazing really! :)
And of course, bacon.
When l get my money l will buy one god willing...
I guess I saw one of the Piaggio Avanti this Monday (2015-Aug-10) over Latvia, don't know if it was Polish aircraft or some else. If first noticed it even before I saw it, because the sound was quite unusual, nothing like a jet or one of the passenger or cargo turboprops.
I think it looks like a catfish.
Wouldn't the props be damaged by debris kicked up by the main gear?
what a price
orgogliosi di questa realizzazione. come mai l'azienda e' in difficolta'? il signor ferrari non può fare nulla..? appello a lui......
NOISE! Flying overhead, it sounds like two HUGE blenders! NOISE NOISE NOISE!!!!!
This is the Avanti's biggest downfall.
It's pretty well etablished that pusher props are not more efficient. Tractor props bite clean air in front of the plane. Pusher props bite turbulent air behind the plane. Comparing planes to boats is stupid. Ships don't have propellers in front because they would be destroyed if it ran aground.
It is the most efficient though. Strange, isn't it?
So to what do you attribute the P180’s ability to fly faster (402 kts) than any other production twin turboprop while still having very low fuel usage (98 gph), all with a roomy stand-up cabin? That seems like the definition of efficiency to me. I think you neglect to consider the downside of tractor props: they bite clean air, but then push some of it directly into the fuselage or wing, thus wasting some of the potential thrust and making it impossible to design the wings and fuselage for laminar airflow, which is a major reason for the Piaggio’s efficiency. The trade off is that the props create more noise, which is a great trade off for the flyer, but not for they person who built or bought a home next to the airport and thought there would not be noise. Oops.
Il n'est pas élégant, mais je le trouve beau quelque part...
Now...., reduce the engine noise a little....!!!.....at ground level....!!!