There was absolutely nothing in this story that explained what the proposed change was. There was also nothing to explain what the Maori were objecting too.
basically the changes that ACT want made to the treaty are that all kiwis be equal and have our personal property protected, only a tiny minority of 'maori' object to this you can guess why...
as a maori, i support the current government. the treaty has expanded far beyond its intention. all these Maori are also part european. i hate the separatism that is in nz after arderns bs. if maori dont want to stop then stop smoking. its like they want the government to control them its odd. theyre basically saying they have no capacity to be adults. and a separate health system. sure you fund it
@@_.Marz._ Far more than a few. Only 3% voted for the Maori party. I am dissapointed to have those idiots performing like clowns in Parliament. Years ago I voted for Pita Sharples, a well educated and respected Maori, and someone who was very good for Maori. This present group dont know how to do anything other than do hakas in the house. Keep that on the rugby field and start speaking some sense.
Thank you for saying that. It's just a small group of vocal stirrers making all this noise. The country voted in a new government to stop all this nonsense and now is carrying out the wishes of the majority.
The Cabinet in the current government is *35 percent Maori!* That's close to three times their percentage of the population. Given that fact, it is long overdue that the *racist* Maori seats in Parliament were done away with. IIRC, they were never intended to be permanent anyway. Time for Maori to participate in politics on the same basis as everyone else.
Wasn't it Thomas Stowell who said...when you remove privilege from a group so they're treated like everyone else, they will suddenly feel discriminated against.
What part of "dying 7 years earlier" sounds like priviledged to you? What part of "having to pay to learn my own culture and language" sounds like a priviledge to you? I'm sure it wasn't priviledged on my ancestors part when the Native Land court spent over a decade of time and money just trying to set up/incarcerate my great grandfather and wrongfully put him in jail just so they can ransack his home with his wife and children? Winiata Te Whaaro. Quite the opposite of priviledge actually.
@@Camwinwhat are you talking about? Literally everyone pays for that, no matter where you’re from. Why should they learn their culture for free outside of their household? Why is the government funding your learning of your culture when that should be funded by the individual… also, they die earlier because of poor decisions on their behalf. Tax payers should be responsible for that? Sounds pretty privileged to me.
@@ccisthesekxs I should have grown up with that knowledge already with me, my language should be with me from birth. That's because of policies like tohunga suppression, Native Schools Act etc.
That's why people made contracts just stick to the contract. We want treaty honoured We don't walk into other peoples countries and try strip them of their rights.
Government not trying to change the treaty, just revisiting the way it’s being interpreted, basically the proposal is one law for all and equal rights regardless of who your ancestors were
They are still doing it but state by state as its the WEF and UN plan. People saying No wont stop them just like with Digital ID and 15 minute districts . Its a global plan being implemented worldwide. And culling the people who are in the way. Dead people cant own anything just like the people wont be able to. I laugh as I can see in a few years everyine losing rheir properties and evertyhting just like we did when we were invaded and our land and resources stolen. Its ok for those who took it to gloat. Wont be the same when they lose their shit . We will tell you the same wasn't yours first anyway . Diddums . They are using china to invade and eill use refugees to change vites and countries to what they want . Open borders wirld citizens who can ve sgifted when they want to work or die as experiments. Oops thats already happening
You have it backwards. Maori have changed the Treaty, and the govt is trying to return laws back to what the treaty states non-Maori are entitled to. The treaty cant be changed.
The Treaty of Waitangi Act [1975], which gave people who had some Maori descent, special privileges, should never have been passed. This divisive Act has done nothing but create a burgeoning grifter class who expect ordinary taxpayers to indulge their limitless demands. Time to stop the grift. Time these unearned privileges were curtailed.
Before the British came, Maori tribes were fighting one another. Between 1800 and 1840, the Maori population had halved through tribal fighting -from 200k to 100k. British brought peace and prosperity, gave Maori the vote decades before white women and over a century before Aborigines. Maori had the right to travel the Empire as British citizens. Still, all that is forgotten as the greed of todays Maori elites can never be satisfied.
Actaually, aboriginals had the vote in three australian colonies in the 1860's, both men and women. Don't feed into the racist misinformation spread by aboriginal activists.
Actually no while maori could legally vote due to laws, they also had to hold land to vote until 1965, and with the muddy land ownership rights of tribal land before that point it made it very difficult if not impossible for maori to vote before then.
You seem to have conveniently forgotten the other parts to the treaty that guaranteed certain rights to Maori...the treaty wasn't JUST about stopping inter tribal warfare...that's ridiculous...
Labour changed the interpretation of the treaty during the last 6 years. We did not ask for that. Now the government is saying all New Zealands should have the same rights.
Exactly, as an Aussie and Kiwi I am glad the FAKE voice lost by a country mile. NZ should do the same put it to a vote and finish this racism once and for all.
It's about the gravy train coming to an end.. because of the principals that were wrongfully out into the original treaty..that's what the NZ government want to change, so all nzers can benefit..
Get your story right, NZ Govt isn't removing/changing the treaty, it's the treaty principles that was made up in the 1980s that are going to be changed to reflect the treaty more accurately as the ones made up in the 80's don't reflect the treaty itself and can have any interpretation applied to it which has happened over the last 40 years, creating a divided society and an us and them culture. Not what the treaty aspired to do and what Hobson and the Iwi signatories wanted originally.
why isn't the media reporting that then??? Last I heard it's all Atlas Networks fault who are funding right wing political partys.. No, we just don't want co-governance
i migrated from NZ over 30 years ago i still read the local papers to keep in touch - i can't believe the changes particularly the woke crap of the last government always in the back of my mind was perhaps going back to retire but there is no way in hell would i even contemplate that now i can't even bring myself to visit the place as i would be so angry and disapointed with all the nonsence that has taken hold over there - i'll just have to stick to my beautiful memories
I left years ago and will never return....unless they scrap that insidious treaty that Elite Maori agitators spuriously use for benefitting themselves. I wont even take my new wife there for a visit....im ashamed of the country....
If you live in New Zealand and you are naturalised then you are a New Zealander equally, and if you live in Australia and you are naturalised Australian then you are Australian equally, why do we continue to have two races in each country? EQUALITY PEOPLE EQUALITY which means we are all the same 😊
This new coalition government is the best thing thsts happened to NZ in many years.....I hope they keep chucking the junk out and get things back on track, I sleep soundly in my bed at nights now watching it happen.
Māori,more to the point some elite Māori were using or misinterpreting the treaty to gain privilege,this is what has been happening for years,but escalating under the Arden government as she could not control the Māori caucus.Everytime something came up for debate in parliament,the question was always asked Howis this going to effect Māori and Pacifica,as if they were something special.They are not special,merely one of us with equal rights,and no more than equal rights
Why shouldn't we be privileged own the whenua until got stolen thieves not just talking whenua were sold next to nothing the whenua stolen without our knowledge ripoff artists
"Maori Elite" is a term coined by the Atlas Group, Same that was used in other similar things around the world. People that continue to use it are just pawns to the mega rich group that insert themselves into these types of scenarios for monetary gain. Multiple people from the NZ coalition parties (who had in some cases, 4 times the monetary backing than that of the other major party) have direct links to this group and are pushing its narratives since getting into parliament. So many people screaming with righteous indignation without realizing they are simply doing the bidding of their overlords.
@@RaewynTairi Do all the good stuff; What you forgot, is the so-called native (they weren't the first), were running around killing and eating each other
The majority of New Zealanders I'm being 1 of them that voted for our coalition government. After the disaster and destruction, jacinda and her labor goons left our country in, and they said during the campaign what their policies were the shoe on the other foot now
This reporter does not understand and report the issue properly. Its about getting back to the original treaty where everyone is equal, not what its been twisted into since the 1980's and the gravy train handouts. Hugh kawahu redefined the treaty in the 80's, this government wants to undo that waitangi tribunal mistruth. Everyone understood the treaty fine for the first 140years! Its just the last 40 years that the meaning has been twisted into a gravy train
Not the Maori people, just the activists and those on the great race gravy train. The government is not in anyway going to change the Treaty, which they cannot. What they are going to do is give the people a chance to discuss the Treaty principles, which are something that activist judges forced on the country.
In the meantime in Australia, woolies says Australia day offends them, today i got their catalogue, emblazoned in green and gold, seems they have no issue using Australia day to sell 'stuff'......hmmmmmm
Actually it was the other way around. Europeans (who already had their own homelands in Europe) came scrounging around Aotearoa looking for free land and handouts from the Maori. Your statement is preposterous.
It is not striping Maori rights. It is not rewriting or changing the treaty in any way. It is relating to one of the principles that was coined in the 80s called "partnership". The government want a more inclusive approach that has nothing to do with race!
Despite the howls of protest it is from a noisy minority that are increasingly seen as freeloading, racist and tiresome. There is the sense that these people are victims no so much now because of their history but because it is now their choice of profession in an industry that appears to be solving little and and has almost sent the country broke. Democracy has therefore just said that the previous NZ government's (and media' and education's) pandering to this victim based industry is not most people's view of the way to the future.
"...Māori are over-represented in the benefit system, making up 15% of the New Zealand population, but 36% of benefit recipients" "...Despite Māori making up only 16% of the general population, figures show 42% of all criminal apprehensions involve a person identifying as Māori, as do 51% of those in prison" Sure sounds like someone is not contributing their fair share to the prosperity of ALL New Zealand.
@@allanlaurenson3201it’s because they aren’t forced to become wholly independent. If the benefits weren’t there, you’d probably see a shift in those numbers. The same has been seen around the world. You give handouts, they bite your hand. I don’t understand why so many people experience what special privileges do to groups of people and yet they still blame everything and everyone else…
The Maori floated across the sea and arrived in what is now N Z. Others floated across the sea and arrived in what is now N Z. War broke out. The Maori didn't win that war.
Yes. It made perfect sense 180 years ago and served us well compared to what may have happened. But it has now become counter productive and just serves the elites.
So you think an overstayer has the right to dissolve a contract between Māori and the Crown? You need to go back to contract law basics buddy. And while youre at it, try not to eat the playdough or sand 😂
Maori ceded sovereignty in 1840, 1975 activists hijacked it and it's become a gravy train. There's no co governance in the treaty. They say they're about unity, when in fact Maori want tribal rule by 2040. The unity will last as long as the funds do. What Maori have done in New Zealand 🇳🇿 is vile and very damaging.
Yeh the maoris have been lying to their kids making them hateful racists they have lost it in every way, the last living Treaty Chiefs would be disgusted.
@@herereihana7892The Europeans ended tribe fighting and civilized the land. You do realize had they not conquered the land, New Zealand would be an island of tribesmen still slinging homemade tools at each other.
You cant say their trying to "Strip" rights without saying what, when and how. Thats spreading infomation without backing it up, which is very dangerous in todays society.
Waitangi Day is a sham. I vote for Pakeha Waitangi Day lets go and speak righteous truth and honour what the brave pioneer English achieved, a miracle evangelising savage Chiefs into Tikanga Christianity! Ratana Church is the devils racist playground. Pakehas rock!
@@StGammon77You see us as lesser beings, there was never “one people” just whitey rules maori bow down and suck it up. We will be taken our land which was given to us by god.
As a 'Non Maori', now i'm not sure of where i belong or what ethnicity i am because recently, too many public speakers are referring to me as 'Non Maori'. NZ Veteran Soldier. 83.
You are kiwi ,NOT non moari & you part of the Anzac generation of new zealand. I'm moari & my grandfather & grand uncle die in wars 1/2 So you are class as kiwi ,the heartland of new zealand 🇳🇿 Treaty of Waitangi is the motherland of moari & the crown
What about the Moriori? Do they get reparations for what the Māori (Ngāti Tama & Ngāti Mutunga tribes) did to them? They killed and enslaved the first indigenous New Zealanders!
Moriori settled the Chathams during the same migrations as Maori settled the mainland islands. Not here first. Maybe go read what they themselves say. They had no contract (Treaty) with Ngati Mutunga or Ngati Tama. Horrible but different scenario all together.
The treaty should be nullified. No reason for that treaty . It is just nuasence. Maori are quite a minority and it should have stayed as it was before. No need for that pidgin ...my goodness 👎
@@korocam9137Waitangi death by water, no Maori is being baptized these days at Waitangi and no Pakeha is welcome unless you are a moaning Maori puppet traitor
Typical of all activists, so intent on their goal being achieved they often miss the benefit of what’s being proposed, instead of arguing against the Bill they should be looking to influence it, the Treaty as Written is an amazing document every bit as important to the Māori as the Magna Carta is to English Common Law, they should be looking to get it enshrined into NZ Law exactly as it is written, but they are so rapt up in fighting a war their ancestors already won they cannot see the prize directly in front of them.
that's what they are trying to do, but it was written in 2 languages. What the crown fail to recognise is that a similar document was signed earlier "Te Whakaptanga" which outlines what Māori have always believed to be what they signed up for, and it is much different to what The Treaty (English version) promised.
The original document first signed by the Chiefs was written in the Māori language of the time and then translated into English, it is the only Document that can be considered as representing the treaty and has been for almost 200 years, the first Chiefs to sign were clearly exceptional people, not only did they recognise their position was untenable but also had the negotiating ability to bring forth such a Document that exists nowhere else, I cannot understand why their names are not on buildings and parks all over NZ, I have some experience in negotiating agreements and would love to have my name on this one, there is a prize in this Document that modern activists do not seem to want to use because it means accepting the fact that Sovereignty was ceded, which takes away the Brilliance of these negotiators, or they are just not able to see the prize because of being focused only on some sort of shared Governance, when the original Document was being signed it’s reported that the British recipient said that now we are one people, the Chiefs would have known exactly what he was saying, they were far more intelligent than they are being given credit for.@@Camwin
@@Camwin Erm, I think you mean He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene... Its nothing like what you said. Are you even from New Zealand? 😂 Do some more research on that declaration of independence and you will understand its correct place in the bureaucracy its not what you claim
@@zweed69 I've literally done a paper studying all documents. Including He whakaputanga, the Treaty and Te Tiriti. Have you? Can you understand reo Māori and do you know the intentions of Māori then?
PLEASE interview Dr Bain Attwood (historian) of Monash university on the Treaty and what it originallyy meant. The NZ media are telling only half the story.
First of all Moriori is more like an iwi which decended from Māori of Aotearoa, and they were attacked by an iwi which doesn’t represent all Māori, and war is real don’t act like yall don’t start wars too
@@t00t27 The colonisation of Australia doesn't have anything to do with my white British ancestors....but nobody says..but, but, but.....all whites are labelled genocidal maniacs with no consideration for which "tribe" actually colonised Australia or NZ......I'm also an indigenous traditional owner of a country built on stolen land...where's my treaty?....one rule for all....all get treaty or no one gets treaty......if not it's just racist Again..I ask you what treaty did the Moriori receive from the Maori...
Let me tell you a dirty secret that we only speak about at parties. When it comes to you - YAWN. In public there is pretend support. Behind doors? YAWN.
Wow some people have a lot of idle time on their hands to get all stewed up about something a looooong time ago before innernet ,cars,benefits,maccas and kfc and tv and the warehouse and alll those other cool colonial inventions that we can all happily live without right ?
@KimberlyQue-fv7ge I got robbed when I sold my first house because the world has changed? Maybe I should get reconciliation for this injustice. If they swapped land for some potatoes and blankets so be it.
If the media could just shut up and let the new government do the job the people asked for, we wouldn't have tension. People in NZ are sick of Maori getting free handouts and now that the new government closed the tap, the activists are crying like babies.......
Maori are one culture u are another dont ever think its ok to force europian english ways law orber and all that rubish on us and think we will not stand up for our way of life go govern yourself
What are you doing using a white mans phone to txt on here ten? If you want to live the Māori way, you are more than welcome. Just hand over the white peoples privilege and get back to your way of life. You can’t have it both ways. If you are truely 100% Māori, then go and ask Willie Jackson to hand over a grass skirt and live happy ever after in the bush. In other words, stop being a dumb arse and accepted that we are all the same people and everybody has the same rights and responsibilities. There is no such thing as a free lunch, even if your great grandmother may have been 1 / 750 Māori….
@KimberlyQue-fv7ge Oh rubbish!! Where land was stolen (which was over 140 years ago) - that is an issue which has been addressed by current non-maori. of the 72.000 men who returned from WWI, more than 10,500 men were assisted onto the land by 1924. Thousands of others were given vocational training or assisted into housing. There were criteria for the fram land grant. The only reason most Maori were not granted farm land was because it was before the great migration into the cities and it was assumed that most Maori had tribal land to cultivate. It was not about stealing land at all. It was that Maori had plenty of their own land and would presumably want to live on their own land. They did however get the vocational training and assistance back into civilian life. Also not a single one of those men of any race returning from WW1 got a single thing for FREE. Show some respect!
@KimberlyQue-fv7geI didnt steal anyone land , not now and not hundreds off years ago, I'm not non Maori either, so stop labeling me, its offensive, is that the same as non whites and non blacks,? Because that is apartheid your shouting, pick up a mirror and look in it
Seems to me there is an agreement between two parties, The Crown and Maori in this instance. A "third party" now wants to be included in that agreement without neither signatories' agreement. Doesnt sound at all legal to me. Should take this to the British high court as the representative of the "Crown"
as an oldie i remember during the early 1980's working for a large hardware firm in NZ at the time the government was under tremendous financial pressure and they had to place severe restictions on spending as the economy was stuggling big time so were all our builders except for this one builder customer whom was spending like no tomorrow i asked how this was so ? he told me all his work contracts where with the Maori affairs department and there were no budget restrictions for them
Govt depts are missing their core staff. Little wonder govt depts are rubbish these days. They are mostly at this meeting. Wish I could have these extra days off but guess the treaty says otherwise
It's time to turn off the taxpayer money tap to self interest groups.
Yep
Amen, not many of them are TRUE Maoris or Aborigines !!!!!
Yeah like the rich business men getting millions in handouts for being landlords
the referendum is not stripping Maori "rights"...its stripping back Maori hand outs
Yep !
Nobody would like to see their benefits being cut.
Like in Australia, Aborigines get $42 BILLION dollars a year for 1.5% TRUE Aborigines, you'd think the gap would have closed by now !!!!!
Nonsense
Right😂😂😂
There was absolutely nothing in this story that explained what the proposed change was. There was also nothing to explain what the Maori were objecting too.
That’s because there are no proposed changes at present and Maori are worried about losing free stuff.
Brilliant reporting isn't it?? I think not!
basically the changes that ACT want made to the treaty are that all kiwis be equal and have our personal property protected, only a tiny minority of 'maori' object to this you can guess why...
@@NoWindNoSunNoPowercan you add no brain and no facts to your name
Only honkies can think erasing a culture is ok because it makes them equal😂😂
Australia dodged a bullet.
100%
For now. But the Marxists will be back. After a re group
Please explain how?
No we haven't. It's all rolling out at state level.
@@HS-vr7cq Reparation & compensation...$$$$$$
as a maori, i support the current government. the treaty has expanded far beyond its intention. all these Maori are also part european. i hate the separatism that is in nz after arderns bs. if maori dont want to stop then stop smoking. its like they want the government to control them its odd. theyre basically saying they have no capacity to be adults. and a separate health system. sure you fund it
Well said aunt
Tell it to your Maori relatives!!
Oh well....there's always a few Māori (in name only) amongst the lot, right? Just glad you were able to put a face to it.
@@_.Marz._ Far more than a few. Only 3% voted for the Maori party. I am dissapointed to have those idiots performing like clowns in Parliament. Years ago I voted for Pita Sharples, a well educated and respected Maori, and someone who was very good for Maori.
This present group dont know how to do anything other than do hakas in the house. Keep that on the rugby field and start speaking some sense.
@@WillDouglas-z1h Either way...one thing this govt has done...they have reunited Māori more than ever before.
Watch this space........
I'm Maori and I support the coalition government's proposal to end the gravy train ... not all Maori are victims ...
Good onya mate. And I believe many others feel the same.
Tell this to your mates.
Thank you for saying that. It's just a small group of vocal stirrers making all this noise. The country voted in a new government to stop all this nonsense and now is carrying out the wishes of the majority.
Fake. You're not Maaori, you are more colloquially known as a kuupapa.
😂😂 speaking for Maori. You a national supporter
Well well well well seems to be a common theme with radical leftists politicians
@johnhoyle4401never heard of Q Anon but in all my years of following politics, I’d have to agree with the OP.
What theme? I’m confused. The current nz govt is center right to right
The Cabinet in the current government is *35 percent Maori!* That's close to three times their percentage of the population.
Given that fact, it is long overdue that the *racist* Maori seats in Parliament were done away with.
IIRC, they were never intended to be permanent anyway.
Time for Maori to participate in politics on the same basis as everyone else.
Under your law and order no thanks
Totally agree
Most Maori voted for the current government. The "Maori Party" only got 2% of the vote.
That's not how statistics work buddy
Wasn't it Thomas Stowell who said...when you remove privilege from a group so they're treated like everyone else, they will suddenly feel discriminated against.
What part of "dying 7 years earlier" sounds like priviledged to you? What part of "having to pay to learn my own culture and language" sounds like a priviledge to you? I'm sure it wasn't priviledged on my ancestors part when the Native Land court spent over a decade of time and money just trying to set up/incarcerate my great grandfather and wrongfully put him in jail just so they can ransack his home with his wife and children? Winiata Te Whaaro. Quite the opposite of priviledge actually.
@@Camwinwhat are you talking about? Literally everyone pays for that, no matter where you’re from. Why should they learn their culture for free outside of their household? Why is the government funding your learning of your culture when that should be funded by the individual… also, they die earlier because of poor decisions on their behalf. Tax payers should be responsible for that? Sounds pretty privileged to me.
@@ccisthesekxs I should have grown up with that knowledge already with me, my language should be with me from birth. That's because of policies like tohunga suppression, Native Schools Act etc.
A pretty comment. You are all discriminated against if you are on of the side of the have not's.
That's why people made contracts just stick to the contract.
We want treaty honoured We don't walk into other peoples countries and try strip them of their rights.
Take note Australia! This is what you want us to sign up to & will be just as devisive! We are ONE!!!
Government not trying to change the treaty, just revisiting the way it’s being interpreted, basically the proposal is one law for all and equal rights regardless of who your ancestors were
Facts is the ones who want separatism are very small minority.
A very Powerful minority mate..
So hold a referendum like Australia did with the fraud Voice vote which they lost by lots !!!!
@@korocam9137 Dream on petal.
@@GaryPeters-nv8pj you will see how much Mana/ Power Maori have. Governments come and go, but Maori will be in Aotearoa forever.
@@korocam9137straight up Koro, this is the Whenua of our tīpuna not there's
Seems to me they afraid of losing out on more taxpayers money
Go to work pay your tax like a good colonial dog ill be wating for my free handout on friday woohoo
Just vote No, like australia did successfully. 🖕
But did it do any good or make a difference how we feel
It’s a treaty so the public doesn’t just get to opt out. It’s not remotely the same thing as the voice
They are still doing it but state by state as its the WEF and UN plan.
People saying No wont stop them just like with Digital ID and 15 minute districts .
Its a global plan being implemented worldwide. And culling the people who are in the way. Dead people cant own anything just like the people wont be able to.
I laugh as I can see in a few years everyine losing rheir properties and evertyhting just like we did when we were invaded and our land and resources stolen. Its ok for those who took it to gloat. Wont be the same when they lose their shit . We will tell you the same wasn't yours first anyway . Diddums . They are using china to invade and eill use refugees to change vites and countries to what they want . Open borders wirld citizens who can ve sgifted when they want to work or die as experiments. Oops thats already happening
The states are doing it anyway sadly.
You have it backwards.
Maori have changed the Treaty, and the govt is trying to return laws back to what the treaty states non-Maori are entitled to.
The treaty cant be changed.
Treaty is bullshito only reason why most I've the Maori leaders sign a Treaty is because the white man was killing off Maori people
I no longer care about the treaty. Its old and defunct. Lets get rid of it! WE ARE KIWIS!
Kāo, He ōrite te tiriti mai i te hainatanga, ā, e mārama ana te whakawhiti i roto i te reo Ingarihi
Waikato has always been very Maori based. This tiny segment of people is biased reporting. Even the way Maori is pronounced has changed to Maaaari!
It's rubbish isn't it.
@@johninnzMoaris don't pronounce English words properly and talk like fobs so who cares.
The Treaty of Waitangi Act [1975], which gave people who had some Maori descent, special privileges, should never have been passed.
This divisive Act has done nothing but create a burgeoning grifter class who expect ordinary taxpayers to indulge their limitless demands.
Time to stop the grift. Time these unearned privileges were curtailed.
Before the British came, Maori tribes were fighting one another. Between 1800 and 1840, the Maori population had halved through tribal fighting -from 200k to 100k. British brought peace and prosperity, gave Maori the vote decades before white women and over a century before Aborigines. Maori had the right to travel the Empire as British citizens. Still, all that is forgotten as the greed of todays Maori elites can never be satisfied.
Actaually, aboriginals had the vote in three australian colonies in the 1860's, both men and women. Don't feed into the racist misinformation spread by aboriginal activists.
Actually no while maori could legally vote due to laws, they also had to hold land to vote until 1965, and with the muddy land ownership rights of tribal land before that point it made it very difficult if not impossible for maori to vote before then.
You seem to have conveniently forgotten the other parts to the treaty that guaranteed certain rights to Maori...the treaty wasn't JUST about stopping inter tribal warfare...that's ridiculous...
Can’t we all celebrate the country we live in and stop fighting for everything and anything?🇦🇺🇳🇿
Exactly! Without the British, NZ would not be what it is today. Thank God for colonization.
Labour changed the interpretation of the treaty during the last 6 years. We did not ask for that. Now the government is saying all New Zealands should have the same rights.
More people looking for more for free while the taxpayers foot the bill.
❤Māori need to move on. The people have voted and like national’s polices. Why let a minority dictate direction
Most of this is being pushed from Act. Act got 8 percent of the vote.
Because we’re outnumbered by all your illegal immigration of your ancestors which led us to this point, yeah we are a minority that’s a problem for us
This is like the same they wanted with the yes vote in Australia.
The voice would have paved the way to a treaty with the Aboriginal industry and Australians would be giving billions to 4% of the population.
Exactly, as an Aussie and Kiwi I am glad the FAKE voice lost by a country mile. NZ should do the same put it to a vote and finish this racism once and for all.
💯 the same bro, here its called 'co-governance' though, like they not even trying to hide it 😂
The conflict is between those Maori who are dependent on the gravy train and the new government. No one else.
It's about the gravy train coming to an end.. because of the principals that were wrongfully out into the original treaty..that's what the NZ government want to change, so all nzers can benefit..
Get your story right, NZ Govt isn't removing/changing the treaty, it's the treaty principles that was made up in the 1980s that are going to be changed to reflect the treaty more accurately as the ones made up in the 80's don't reflect the treaty itself and can have any interpretation applied to it which has happened over the last 40 years, creating a divided society and an us and them culture. Not what the treaty aspired to do and what Hobson and the Iwi signatories wanted originally.
why isn't the media reporting that then??? Last I heard it's all Atlas Networks fault who are funding right wing political partys.. No, we just don't want co-governance
That's right no politician has suggested that the Treaty should be done away with, Seymour has been quite adamant about this.
One people one law... they weren't here first
Yeah like communism
Two cultures one law british colonial dog law ohh nah thats rong
Even if they were it means nothing regarding the Treaty
@@herereihana7892your ancestors barbaric culture was dismantled by the Treaty Chiefs suck it up and honour it!
Kāo, I’m Māori not British, stop using all this one people talk there’s multiple people, unapologetically Māori
Maori and I support our new government
Somehow i doubt that.
Why u supporting a government that’s openly trying to beat us down
You live in west Auckland don’t you? Your daughter “sade” is 20 this year isn’t she? Mr snaggle tooth.
i migrated from NZ over 30 years ago i still read the local papers to keep in touch - i can't believe the changes particularly the woke crap of the last government
always in the back of my mind was perhaps going back to retire but there is no way in hell would i even contemplate that now
i can't even bring myself to visit the place as i would be so angry and disapointed with all the nonsence that has taken hold over there - i'll just have to stick to my beautiful memories
I agree with your statement and add that it's not what the people want it's what the government forced upon them 😢
I left years ago and will never return....unless they scrap that insidious treaty that Elite Maori agitators spuriously use for benefitting themselves. I wont even take my new wife there for a visit....im ashamed of the country....
For your viewers;
The so called Maori king is only king of one tribe or IWI, about 1% of maori.
Plus he does not and can't speak maori
Dodery old clown can hardly string a couple of sentences together.
Yeah!
yet multiple tribes are uniting behind this........
If you live in New Zealand and you are naturalised then you are a New Zealander equally, and if you live in Australia and you are naturalised Australian then you are Australian equally, why do we continue to have two races in each country? EQUALITY PEOPLE EQUALITY which means we are all the same 😊
So your Aboriginal?
@@manamaori100 yes
There are more than 2 races in both countries
@@Flemo2140 if you are naturalised there aren’t
Yes but something is driving this divide and we should have a referendum to stop this ONCE and for ALL !!!!!
This new coalition government is the best thing thsts happened to NZ in many years.....I hope they keep chucking the junk out and get things back on track, I sleep soundly in my bed at nights now watching it happen.
I can't there hasn't been a right wing backlash yet in New zealand or you don't have a "One Nation" Equivalent right wing party!?
Māori,more to the point some elite Māori were using or misinterpreting the treaty to gain privilege,this is what has been happening for years,but escalating under the Arden government as she could not control the Māori caucus.Everytime something came up for debate in parliament,the question was always asked Howis this going to effect Māori and Pacifica,as if they were something special.They are not special,merely one of us with equal rights,and no more than equal rights
Why shouldn't we be privileged own the whenua until got stolen thieves not just talking whenua were sold next to nothing the whenua stolen without our knowledge ripoff artists
"Maori Elite" is a term coined by the Atlas Group, Same that was used in other similar things around the world. People that continue to use it are just pawns to the mega rich group that insert themselves into these types of scenarios for monetary gain. Multiple people from the NZ coalition parties (who had in some cases, 4 times the monetary backing than that of the other major party) have direct links to this group and are pushing its narratives since getting into parliament. So many people screaming with righteous indignation without realizing they are simply doing the bidding of their overlords.
NZ is stuffed, was there recently and it looks old, dirty and tied.
Yes our country is a creep
Can thank colonization for that
@user-no3sl6xz1i proud to be supreme coloniser we achieved a miracle!
@@RaewynTairi Do all the good stuff; What you forgot, is the so-called native (they weren't the first), were running around killing and eating each other
@@R0d_1984 are you reporting my comment because you can't handle the truth
The majority of New Zealanders I'm being 1 of them that voted for our coalition government. After the disaster and destruction, jacinda and her labor goons left our country in, and they said during the campaign what their policies were the shoe on the other foot now
Stopped Covid running rampant. Are you a conspiracy nutjob?
Here they go again. 😅
Yep here we go again
This reporter does not understand and report the issue properly.
Its about getting back to the original treaty where everyone is equal, not what its been twisted into since the 1980's and the gravy train handouts.
Hugh kawahu redefined the treaty in the 80's, this government wants to undo that waitangi tribunal mistruth. Everyone understood the treaty fine for the first 140years! Its just the last 40 years that the meaning has been twisted into a gravy train
Not the Maori people, just the activists and those on the great race gravy train. The government is not in anyway going to change the Treaty, which they cannot. What they are going to do is give the people a chance to discuss the Treaty principles, which are something that activist judges forced on the country.
In the meantime in Australia, woolies says Australia day offends them, today i got their catalogue, emblazoned in green and gold, seems they have no issue using Australia day to sell 'stuff'......hmmmmmm
Activists have often lacked consistency, which is a nicer way of saying they are hypocrites.
Māori came together for a free feed as usual
Why would u not
Can't believe some one would make a remark as disrespectful as that .USA just like here full of redneck racists
After losing most of their tribal lands to white Europeans, why shouldn't they?
Actually it was the other way around.
Europeans (who already had their own homelands in Europe) came scrounging around Aotearoa looking for free land and handouts from the Maori.
Your statement is preposterous.
@@tristanuaceithearnaigh7660actuals mfs always colonising something
10,000 Maori attended the hui at Ngaruawahia
134,000 people attended the Ed Sheeran Concert in Auckland,
50k diverse citizens at Parliament occupation got called a river of filth but I think what we are seeing from maoridom is an ocean of affluent!
@@StGammon77 Maybe check the meaning of "affluent" bahahahahaha.
Ed Sheerin had been advertised for a couple years. The hui was thrown together in a couple days.
It is not striping Maori rights. It is not rewriting or changing the treaty in any way. It is relating to one of the principles that was coined in the 80s called "partnership". The government want a more inclusive approach that has nothing to do with race!
Despite the howls of protest it is from a noisy minority that are increasingly seen as freeloading, racist and tiresome. There is the sense that these people are victims no so much now because of their history but because it is now their choice of profession in an industry that appears to be solving little and and has almost sent the country broke. Democracy has therefore just said that the previous NZ government's (and media' and education's) pandering to this victim based industry is not most people's view of the way to the future.
Lesson for Australia to not fall into this trap
"...Māori are over-represented in the benefit system, making up 15% of the New Zealand population, but 36% of benefit recipients"
"...Despite Māori making up only 16% of the general population, figures show 42% of all criminal apprehensions involve a person identifying as Māori, as do 51% of those in prison"
Sure sounds like someone is not contributing their fair share to the prosperity of ALL New Zealand.
Have you ever taken the time to think why that is ?
@@allanlaurenson3201it’s because they aren’t forced to become wholly independent. If the benefits weren’t there, you’d probably see a shift in those numbers. The same has been seen around the world. You give handouts, they bite your hand. I don’t understand why so many people experience what special privileges do to groups of people and yet they still blame everything and everyone else…
Its all one sided at the present. Maori activists all talking it up. At some point the Government needs to inform Maori of reality
The Maori floated across the sea and arrived in what is now N Z. Others floated across the sea and arrived in what is now N Z. War broke out. The Maori didn't win that war.
Its time to ditch the treaty of waitangi
NO,WE WILL NEVER
Yes. It made perfect sense 180 years ago and served us well compared to what may have happened. But it has now become counter productive and just serves the elites.
We should ditch foreigners who think they are kiwis
End the hand outs, no more sit down money.
was no where near 10000,more like 600
12000 people was what the Marae ended up catering for.
According those who claimed 20000 turned up..yer NAH you sure they didnt mean 1200 ? @@dane1056
They should have revolted while Skeletor was in power and telling them they had to disarm and get the jab.
they were in power with skeletor too bro 😂
I’m so glad I got out of NZ.
don’t come back.
Yeah ,civil unrest is simmering too
Many have left including 1000s of embarrassed Maoris
Yes it keeps drifting off further and further towards Marxism.
Having a hangi to celebrate whitey
It seems fair enough to me and it does apply to all New Zealander's, and if people are honest there really isn't to many full blooded Maori left.
Amen, same in Australia !!!! Unless you are full blooded you deserve nothing get a job like the rest of us !!!!
So you think an overstayer has the right to dissolve a contract between Māori and the Crown? You need to go back to contract law basics buddy.
And while youre at it, try not to eat the playdough or sand 😂
Exactly
@@pokethepakeha8043 You may want to look into the differences between constitutional law and contractual law "buddy".
@pokethepakeha8043 That's not what they have said will be tabled. So why suggest it is.
YES about time ..Dump the "SWINDLE SHEET "..
Maori ceded sovereignty in 1840, 1975 activists hijacked it and it's become a gravy train. There's no co governance in the treaty. They say they're about unity, when in fact Maori want tribal rule by 2040. The unity will last as long as the funds do. What Maori have done in New Zealand 🇳🇿 is vile and very damaging.
I could easly say that about europian what u think your soo good
Worst history on earth in evry country greed is in your dna
Yeh the maoris have been lying to their kids making them hateful racists they have lost it in every way, the last living Treaty Chiefs would be disgusted.
@@herereihana7892we're supreme cos you keep telling it hahaha
@@herereihana7892The Europeans ended tribe fighting and civilized the land. You do realize had they not conquered the land, New Zealand would be an island of tribesmen still slinging homemade tools at each other.
Don't serve your country don't serve your King, we carry on pur hearts the true country and that cannot be broken
You cant say their trying to "Strip" rights without saying what, when and how. Thats spreading infomation without backing it up, which is very dangerous in todays society.
Nothing a suitably sized pakeha cheque can't solve.
It’s a democracy not communism you have the vote
It’s democracy if your outnumbered by the opposition is it
How bazaar, how bazaar!
not rights but free money
Not all Maori community's its a few activists. Maori are always betters off under National lead government. 🙄
I think it’s called apartheid.
We all know the Minority doesn't Rule 😊
Waitangi Day is a sham. I vote for Pakeha Waitangi Day lets go and speak righteous truth and honour what the brave pioneer English achieved, a miracle evangelising savage Chiefs into Tikanga Christianity! Ratana Church is the devils racist playground. Pakehas rock!
It used to be NZ Day when we were one lot
Bro stfu, Pākehā religion is full of a bunch of pedophiles
@@StGammon77You see us as lesser beings, there was never “one people” just whitey rules maori bow down and suck it up. We will be taken our land which was given to us by god.
As a 'Non Maori', now i'm not sure of where i belong or what ethnicity i am because recently, too many public speakers are referring to me as 'Non Maori'. NZ Veteran Soldier. 83.
You are kiwi ,NOT non moari & you part of the Anzac generation of new zealand.
I'm moari & my grandfather & grand uncle die in wars 1/2
So you are class as kiwi ,the heartland of new zealand 🇳🇿
Treaty of Waitangi is the motherland of moari & the crown
@@user-FUCKYOU18 Te nga Koe ehoa. Ko Ropata Wirihana tenei. Bob.
What about the Moriori? Do they get reparations for what the Māori (Ngāti Tama & Ngāti Mutunga tribes) did to them? They killed and enslaved the first indigenous New Zealanders!
Moriori settled the Chathams during the same migrations as Maori settled the mainland islands. Not here first. Maybe go read what they themselves say. They had no contract (Treaty) with Ngati Mutunga or Ngati Tama. Horrible but different scenario all together.
awful lot of white people claiming to be Maori LOL
You'd be surprised 😂😂 I'm white but my dad was Maori, who said you have to be brown to be Maori
The treaty should be nullified. No reason for that treaty . It is just nuasence. Maori are quite a minority and it should have stayed as it was before. No need for that pidgin ...my goodness 👎
Every one is entitled to a vote
I hardly think 5000 is a mobilisation bro
A treaty between the people and the Crown ? Can't imagine the Crown being too happy about this...
Lol.... the same day the "foo fighters" got 30,000 at a concert in Auckland.......
It was only the first Hui/ gathering of the year, they are expecting 80.000 plus for Waitangi Day.
Ha Ha.@@korocam9137
@@korocam9137Waitangi death by water, no Maori is being baptized these days at Waitangi and no Pakeha is welcome unless you are a moaning Maori puppet traitor
Thats a repeat, i heard sean Plunket say that on & the platform lol
Foo Fighters was organized 2 years before the event. This was organized a few days before and they still got 12000.
Argue away !!!! NZ is NEWZELANDER ALL Newzelanders !!!!!!
Wrong ,we are still with the commonwealth of UK 🇬🇧
Sovereignty is also an issue, and we'll be taking back our God given right!
And what God would that be?
The god that will say an eye for an eye
But we're supreme lol
What about the Maori Ora? Where is their Waitangi then? Bit hypocritical isn't it
Maori Ora?
Typical of all activists, so intent on their goal being achieved they often miss the benefit of what’s being proposed, instead of arguing against the Bill they should be looking to influence it, the Treaty as Written is an amazing document every bit as important to the Māori as the Magna Carta is to English Common Law, they should be looking to get it enshrined into NZ Law exactly as it is written, but they are so rapt up in fighting a war their ancestors already won they cannot see the prize directly in front of them.
so well put my friend, the treaty was altered back in 75 and we have had problems ever since, ACT want the principles they added clarified
that's what they are trying to do, but it was written in 2 languages. What the crown fail to recognise is that a similar document was signed earlier "Te Whakaptanga" which outlines what Māori have always believed to be what they signed up for, and it is much different to what The Treaty (English version) promised.
The original document first signed by the Chiefs was written in the Māori language of the time and then translated into English, it is the only Document that can be considered as representing the treaty and has been for almost 200 years, the first Chiefs to sign were clearly exceptional people, not only did they recognise their position was untenable but also had the negotiating ability to bring forth such a Document that exists nowhere else, I cannot understand why their names are not on buildings and parks all over NZ, I have some experience in negotiating agreements and would love to have my name on this one, there is a prize in this Document that modern activists do not seem to want to use because it means accepting the fact that Sovereignty was ceded, which takes away the Brilliance of these negotiators, or they are just not able to see the prize because of being focused only on some sort of shared Governance, when the original Document was being signed it’s reported that the British recipient said that now we are one people, the Chiefs would have known exactly what he was saying, they were far more intelligent than they are being given credit for.@@Camwin
@@Camwin Erm, I think you mean He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene... Its nothing like what you said. Are you even from New Zealand? 😂 Do some more research on that declaration of independence and you will understand its correct place in the bureaucracy its not what you claim
@@zweed69 I've literally done a paper studying all documents. Including He whakaputanga, the Treaty and Te Tiriti. Have you? Can you understand reo Māori and do you know the intentions of Māori then?
PLEASE interview Dr Bain Attwood (historian) of Monash university on the Treaty and what it originallyy meant. The NZ media are telling only half the story.
What rights did the Moriori have, any treaty?........those who commit genocide against others deserve no treaty
The treaty was a contract organized between two parties. What has that got to do with what happened to the Moriori people.
First of all Moriori is more like an iwi which decended from Māori of Aotearoa, and they were attacked by an iwi which doesn’t represent all Māori, and war is real don’t act like yall don’t start wars too
@@t00t27 The colonisation of Australia doesn't have anything to do with my white British ancestors....but nobody says..but, but, but.....all whites are labelled genocidal maniacs with no consideration for which "tribe" actually colonised Australia or NZ......I'm also an indigenous traditional owner of a country built on stolen land...where's my treaty?....one rule for all....all get treaty or no one gets treaty......if not it's just racist
Again..I ask you what treaty did the Moriori receive from the Maori...
@@dane1056 Sounds like hypocrisy to me...."we did that to them but don't you do that to us..we want a fair go"
@@t00t27 So because they were descended that makes genocide OK.....yeah right buddy....so the atrocities don't matter because?
This is exactly why treaties with your own population are a really bad idea.
Australians have learnt from Kiwis and that is why we voted NO to the seperate Aboriginal powers over our government
"Could strip back maori rights" 😆 oh so thats what apartheid looks like from over the ditch...
How many of that 10000 at the hui work and pay taxes i would love to know
Let me tell you a dirty secret that we only speak about at parties. When it comes to you - YAWN. In public there is pretend support. Behind doors? YAWN.
Wow some people have a lot of idle time on their hands to get all stewed up about something a looooong time ago before innernet ,cars,benefits,maccas and kfc and tv and the warehouse and alll those other cool colonial inventions that we can all happily live without right ?
Gee - I've never seen a minority of people with their hand out so much. Come on one people.
@KimberlyQue-fv7ge I got robbed when I sold my first house because the world has changed? Maybe I should get reconciliation for this injustice. If they swapped land for some potatoes and blankets so be it.
If the media could just shut up and let the new government do the job the people asked for, we wouldn't have tension. People in NZ are sick of Maori getting free handouts and now that the new government closed the tap, the activists are crying like babies.......
What is the population of moari in new zealand??
Maori are one culture u are another dont ever think its ok to force europian english ways law orber and all that rubish on us and think we will not stand up for our way of life go govern yourself
What are you doing using a white mans phone to txt on here ten? If you want to live the Māori way, you are more than welcome. Just hand over the white peoples privilege and get back to your way of life. You can’t have it both ways. If you are truely 100% Māori, then go and ask Willie Jackson to hand over a grass skirt and live happy ever after in the bush. In other words, stop being a dumb arse and accepted that we are all the same people and everybody has the same rights and responsibilities. There is no such thing as a free lunch, even if your great grandmother may have been 1 / 750 Māori….
@KimberlyQue-fv7ge Oh rubbish!! Where land was stolen (which was over 140 years ago) - that is an issue which has been addressed by current non-maori.
of the 72.000 men who returned from WWI, more than 10,500 men were assisted onto the land by 1924. Thousands of others were given vocational training or assisted into housing. There were criteria for the fram land grant. The only reason most Maori were not granted farm land was because it was before the great migration into the cities and it was assumed that most Maori had tribal land to cultivate. It was not about stealing land at all. It was that Maori had plenty of their own land and would presumably want to live on their own land. They did however get the vocational training and assistance back into civilian life.
Also not a single one of those men of any race returning from WW1 got a single thing for FREE. Show some respect!
@KimberlyQue-fv7geI didnt steal anyone land , not now and not hundreds off years ago, I'm not non Maori either, so stop labeling me, its offensive, is that the same as non whites and non blacks,? Because that is apartheid your shouting, pick up a mirror and look in it
No way is this true…that is not what is happening.
Winny seems so sweet.
One sided reporting Sky
Oh gawd, I thought sky news reporting was better than this 😅😅. We just want to stop co-governance. It's pretty simple really
Seems to me there is an agreement between two parties, The Crown and Maori in this instance. A "third party" now wants to be included in that agreement without neither signatories' agreement. Doesnt sound at all legal to me. Should take this to the British high court as the representative of the "Crown"
as an oldie i remember during the early 1980's working for a large hardware firm in NZ
at the time the government was under tremendous financial pressure and they had to place severe restictions on spending
as the economy was stuggling big time so were all our builders except for this one builder customer whom was spending like no tomorrow i asked how this was so ?
he told me all his work contracts where with the Maori affairs department and there were no budget restrictions for them
Ahhhh the old, i knew someone that said a thing statement.
Govt depts are missing their core staff. Little wonder govt depts are rubbish these days. They are mostly at this meeting. Wish I could have these extra days off but guess the treaty says otherwise
Did these guys ask any White people their views?
Costs of West European colonialism are high all over the world.
Native Kiwis are more assertive than native Australians.
Maori had NO RIGHTS.
There are only maori blooded kiwis now.
No one owns land, for freedom camping on bareland.
You purchase land, to own it
Kāo whenua of my ancestors, it belongs to all my whānau and hapū
Its nedua hyped, so stop encouraging ut. The polls speak forthemselves.
Woksters
This is some poor selective journalism....but that's not a surprise from Peter Stefanovic.