It seems more straightforward than some of these comments make it sound, not unlike navigating the menus of some recent pedals from Meris or Hologram Electronics
I have to say that this is one of the easiest synths I’ve ever programmed. It took me about 10 minutes to learn the UI, I think it’s kind of genius how it’s laid out. Also everything can be mapped to CC, which if you’re buying a desktop synth then you should have a good midi controller to begin with. Also it sounds so good! You guys knocked it out of the park and the haters just don’t know the true pain of menu diving (looking at you Waldorf Blofeld).
I love it. And it really isn't that complicated, folks. For real. I'm amazed these folks complaining made it this far in life if they think this layout is too difficult and complicated to operate. Just use your 🧠 and all will be fine. 😉
Ok, we do not want to fool anyone by saying its an easy UI. That is why we made this tutorial. But if you work with it for like 30 minutes, it becomes dead simple.
@@Dreadbox-synths I think you did a great job and the UI is pretty darn simple. Just having a little fun with some of the folk complaining. If they think this is too difficult, just wait until they see some of the crazy UIs of today's eurorack sequencer modules or a 90s samplers from back in the day. 😀 You did a wonderful job explaining it. 👏
I just ordered a Nymphes and I am watching this over and over again so that I will never have to gripe about the controls. Thank you again. Also, my Nymphes literally passed through Memphis as a stop on its way to me in Atlanta, lol.
It doesn't seem that complicated but I think there are some graphic design issues here that could have been tackled in a more sufficient way in order to make the UI much more helpful...
I love the synth but there's one quality of life thing I would like to see added in a firmware update. The main problem in the UI is the lack of feedback; you simply don't know where your values are specially when you load a patch. If you use the jump mode you'll have; well; jumps and it's not great as it will change your sound abrubtly; so I use the catch mode. So to the point; I'd like for a led to blink when I match the actual value of the parameter with the fader (a feature that exist on other synths); this could be the save led as it's not used for sound editing and it would make sense. This would dramatically improve the interface as you could now easily find where the stored value is (specially for modulation value where it's often tricky just from ear). I'd also like some kind of indication for the LFO speed but that seems a bit harder to do from this interface (maybe for LFO2). I like there's already a form of feedback from leds in the menus, you could just expand on this idea. Really like the synth; still thinking on ways to make the experience better from some kind of max4live / touch OSC companion
So excited. The extra day or two it'll take to master the shift/save/load functions is well worth the sound quality and form factor of this lil' thing.
Is there still a controller app in development to use with iPads or other tablets? I know that Tim Shoebridge's NymphCC works on laptops, but it's a shame that there isn't a CC editor/controller that's as lightweight and portable as the Nymphes itself.
Had mine for a few hours now, already finding it pretty easy to navigate. I suspect the people acting like it's the worst thing in the world have never used Elektron gear or 90s samplers. This might be an instrument you keep for decades, why is spending a couple hours getting to know it such a problem?
this looks like such a cool synth. setting modulation is easy enough, but adjusting or removing modulation seems like a total hassle without some indication as to what modulation a patch has already set.
Dreadbox: I’ll give you an excellent-sounding polyphonic analog synthesizer at the lowest possible price but you’ll have to use your brain bc to save costs I did not include a screen and couldn’t make it bigger and double the number of sliders. “1st world” Commenters: this is unusable! Will pay more before spending neuronal energy!
I love tinkering and it's an interesting challenge to come up with a companion max for live/ touchOSC that doesn't get in the way (midi feedback loops is not a trivial issue by the way)
The Layout is brilliant! I got mine from my Localstore today, and to me the operation feels logical and organic, kinda feels like an analog four just without the screen, wich is luxury. i quess haveing not to look at an oled screen is also a luxury
It sounds great. If they made another version with a small screen for presets with more knobs/controls it would sell like hot cakes even at twice the price.
Great video! Is there any way you can allow the typhon to switch the sampling rate down to 44.1khz so we can use it as an audio interface with mpc one/live/X or is it a fixed thing that cant be changed via a future update?
The only thing I can't get to work as advertised is loading the two different kinds of presets. Whether I tap the load button or hold it always loads the same sound it seems. It would be wonderful to get an 'init' patch.
Question to DB: This wasn't really clear from the video for me. While loading and scrolling trough the Presets can I preview/play them without finalizing the load action?
When I click quick for User Patch, its still showing only preset patches. I though after Firmware 2.1 it will work but it still not worked or I do something wrong?
since there is no manual yet, is there a way to know the value of the parameters when you press or depress shift? so every time you move the faders after pressing shift you will not change an unknown value? also, does the fader have some kind of "pick up mode" so parameter will not jump after preset change or switching in and out the shift parameters? Thanks!
One of my favourite things about the Typhon is that the patch loading / previewing is seamless and does not interrupt the jamming process - you just scroll through the patch list and you hear them immediately. Does the Nymphes behave in a similar fashion or do you need to manually load (with a delay between selecting and loading) each stored preset before you can hear it?
Ok, Dreadbox, riddle me this. How do I tell which memory slot has a preset stored in it so I don't override my other user patches when I go to same a new one? For the life of me I can't find this in the manual and neither the internet has the answer to this.
Hey, you cannot see if a memory slot is empty or containing a patch unless you remember how you organised your presets. There are some unofficial software controller/editors though for Nymphes that addressing what you are asking for. I hope that helps ;)
@@Dreadbox-synths , thanks for the reply! Consider this a feature request. 🙃 I think different flashing patterns could easily solve this problem and would be in keeping with the synth's UI / UX paradigm. Other than that, lovin' the thing more than I thought I would.
you can preview the sound; so if when you short press load you get the same sound as when you long press load you'll know no user preset is saved here. What I'd do is before working on a patch I'd locate an empty slot this way. You can also preview sounds without loading them (long press menu to cancel) so when in doubt you can try to locate a sound you're sure you don't want to keep. I agree some different flashing patterns could help; it take me quite some time (and a sysex dump) to realize there was no pre-recorded patches on the user slots and that loading a user patch when there was no recorded simply loads the factory patch.
🤔..I was thinking about pairing the Nymphes with the UNO Pro, but the mental menu gymnastics to make some cool sounds from those synths…will fry the 3 brain cells I have left 😞
The save process looks like opening a safe lol. Should be here tomorrow, can't wait! (also looking forward to trying out Tim Shoebridge's software editor ruclips.net/video/oKVnH8RiJ9I/видео.html)
Sound examples are totally overrated. We just need a sales dude telling the world how cool the synths feature are...I'm going to sample the voice of the spokeshypster and see what I come up with in a mix until we're going to hear some real demos that show little more than the narrow patch-spectrum currently available on YT. Whats your problem? Show us what Nymphes is capable of in a "no talk" , no BS presentation. We buy gear for the sound and not based on marketing talks. For a little extra on top of the price of Nymphes I can get myself a Moog Subharmonicon and beside that there are plenty of analog boutique Synths outhere in the nymphes price range. Convince people with a range of sounds and not with a range of talks. Btw, your utterly embarassing cringe gloves dont make things up for the missing sound...
Your point is clear, but why the hostile tone?...you are not talking to a giant corporation trying to bullshit you with marketing tricks. It's a small team trying to do their best and so far they are doing more than fine IMO...
This is so bad, I can’t believe it came from the same company that made Typhon. What were they thinking? I get that it’s a cheap 6 voice poly but at this price range why would anyone buy this? The UI sucks.
Honesty, yes it is difficult, we are not trying to say it's easy, we would not make this video if it was. Its a new approach and all it requires is 30 min of your time, after that point its dead easy.
It seems more straightforward than some of these comments make it sound, not unlike navigating the menus of some recent pedals from Meris or Hologram Electronics
I have to say that this is one of the easiest synths I’ve ever programmed. It took me about 10 minutes to learn the UI, I think it’s kind of genius how it’s laid out. Also everything can be mapped to CC, which if you’re buying a desktop synth then you should have a good midi controller to begin with. Also it sounds so good! You guys knocked it out of the park and the haters just don’t know the true pain of menu diving (looking at you Waldorf Blofeld).
I love it. And it really isn't that complicated, folks. For real. I'm amazed these folks complaining made it this far in life if they think this layout is too difficult and complicated to operate. Just use your 🧠 and all will be fine. 😉
Ok, we do not want to fool anyone by saying its an easy UI. That is why we made this tutorial. But if you work with it for like 30 minutes, it becomes dead simple.
@@Dreadbox-synths I think you did a great job and the UI is pretty darn simple. Just having a little fun with some of the folk complaining. If they think this is too difficult, just wait until they see some of the crazy UIs of today's eurorack sequencer modules or a 90s samplers from back in the day. 😀 You did a wonderful job explaining it. 👏
I just ordered a Nymphes and I am watching this over and over again so that I will never have to gripe about the controls. Thank you again. Also, my Nymphes literally passed through Memphis as a stop on its way to me in Atlanta, lol.
It doesn't seem that complicated but I think there are some graphic design issues here that could have been tackled in a more sufficient way in order to make the UI much more helpful...
This video made it clear that this is not at all complicated. Also, great voiceover!
I love the synth but there's one quality of life thing I would like to see added in a firmware update. The main problem in the UI is the lack of feedback; you simply don't know where your values are specially when you load a patch. If you use the jump mode you'll have; well; jumps and it's not great as it will change your sound abrubtly; so I use the catch mode.
So to the point; I'd like for a led to blink when I match the actual value of the parameter with the fader (a feature that exist on other synths); this could be the save led as it's not used for sound editing and it would make sense. This would dramatically improve the interface as you could now easily find where the stored value is (specially for modulation value where it's often tricky just from ear). I'd also like some kind of indication for the LFO speed but that seems a bit harder to do from this interface (maybe for LFO2). I like there's already a form of feedback from leds in the menus, you could just expand on this idea.
Really like the synth; still thinking on ways to make the experience better from some kind of max4live / touch OSC companion
That’s a great idea. Works great on the Microfreak. @dreadbox
I can already tell that I will love this synth. I love how you really need to touch it and look at the physical instrument to really connect to it.
So excited. The extra day or two it'll take to master the shift/save/load functions is well worth the sound quality and form factor of this lil' thing.
Glad to hear that the Black Mesa Announcer is still alive and does now YT synth voiceovers
Thanks for the tutorial! Impatiently waiting for more sounds from this little beast while waiting for it to ship 🥳
Is there still a controller app in development to use with iPads or other tablets? I know that Tim Shoebridge's NymphCC works on laptops, but it's a shame that there isn't a CC editor/controller that's as lightweight and portable as the Nymphes itself.
Had mine for a few hours now, already finding it pretty easy to navigate. I suspect the people acting like it's the worst thing in the world have never used Elektron gear or 90s samplers. This might be an instrument you keep for decades, why is spending a couple hours getting to know it such a problem?
I'm just glad they got Duke Nuke 'Em to do the narration
A "ProckGnosis" style voice over? Man... a Hollywood style great tutorial!
Sounds exactly the same as his voice 🤔😅
Looks great!!!! Can’t wait to get one. It seems like another cool dreadbox synth.
Perfect video. Thank you for this very well done ❤
this looks like such a cool synth. setting modulation is easy enough, but adjusting or removing modulation seems like a total hassle without some indication as to what modulation a patch has already set.
Just hold down menu while on a modulation source, and all targets will be reseted ;)
User interface is very hands on i like it.
Dreadbox: I’ll give you an excellent-sounding polyphonic analog synthesizer at the lowest possible price but you’ll have to use your brain bc to save costs I did not include a screen and couldn’t make it bigger and double the number of sliders.
“1st world” Commenters: this is unusable! Will pay more before spending neuronal energy!
I am the opposite, I wish we could have traded some sliders with more voices, lol!
I love tinkering and it's an interesting challenge to come up with a companion max for live/ touchOSC that doesn't get in the way (midi feedback loops is not a trivial issue by the way)
The Layout is brilliant! I got mine from my Localstore today, and to me the operation feels logical and organic, kinda feels like an analog four just without the screen, wich is luxury. i quess haveing not to look at an oled screen is also a luxury
Damn ,those Greeks want to make us use our brains. Socrates tried the same and we all know how well it ended for him.
TOP comment.
I recognize that narrator :)
... is it the ProckGnosis guy?
@@niktonpanaflex7831 Pretty sure it is :)
@@Psychlist1972 Clever choice! If HE can handle it after all these bears, then it mustn't be difficult ....
First sentence 😎
Absolutely thrilled to see this show up.
Really looking forward to this one!
I just got one of these and I love it. sounds awesome and the form factor is icing on the cake
My new favourite synth. Only down side is annoying hum caused by usb power
It sounds great. If they made another version with a small screen for presets with more knobs/controls it would sell like hot cakes even at twice the price.
Great video! Is there any way you can allow the typhon to switch the sampling rate down to 44.1khz so we can use it as an audio interface with mpc one/live/X or is it a fixed thing that cant be changed via a future update?
We will work on that on 2022, though I can't promise anything
Do I need fingerless mittens to save patches?
The only thing I can't get to work as advertised is loading the two different kinds of presets. Whether I tap the load button or hold it always loads the same sound it seems. It would be wonderful to get an 'init' patch.
I'm bummed to not hear Yannis' voice for this tutorial!
I can make a voice-over and add subtitles XD
@@Dreadbox-synths Please do! Haha
2:33 homeboy was trying so hard not to laugh 😂
easy! looking forward to have it delivered.
Gettin' excited that my pre-order might ship in the next few weeks...
It sounds so precious! Might have to get one.
Surely the save patch function could be improved? This is too easy. Why not get the sliders involved as well for a full on multi tasking workout?
Question to DB: This wasn't really clear from the video for me. While loading and scrolling trough the Presets can I preview/play them without finalizing the load action?
Exactly, as with Typhon ;)
Heads up: looks like Sweetwater got a shipment this week (but I wouldn’t be surprised if those are all going to pre-orders 😉
Why not have a demo of it?
many demos are incoming
When I click quick for User Patch, its still showing only preset patches. I though after Firmware 2.1 it will work but it still not worked or I do something wrong?
since there is no manual yet, is there a way to know the value of the parameters when you press or depress shift? so every time you move the faders after pressing shift you will not change an unknown value?
also, does the fader have some kind of "pick up mode" so parameter will not jump after preset change or switching in and out the shift parameters?
Thanks!
There is a grab and a jump mode for the faders, so that way you can work the way you are used to ;)
Is there any way to use noise as a modulation source? If not, that would make a wonderful update.
Why is there no midi thru?????? The typhon has it.
how does one get an init patch?
One of my favourite things about the Typhon is that the patch loading / previewing is seamless and does not interrupt the jamming process - you just scroll through the patch list and you hear them immediately. Does the Nymphes behave in a similar fashion or do you need to manually load (with a delay between selecting and loading) each stored preset before you can hear it?
You can hear each preset before loading it. there is an option to also turn that off
Ok, Dreadbox, riddle me this. How do I tell which memory slot has a preset stored in it so I don't override my other user patches when I go to same a new one? For the life of me I can't find this in the manual and neither the internet has the answer to this.
Hey, you cannot see if a memory slot is empty or containing a patch unless you remember how you organised your presets. There are some unofficial software controller/editors though for Nymphes that addressing what you are asking for. I hope that helps ;)
@@Dreadbox-synths , thanks for the reply!
Consider this a feature request. 🙃
I think different flashing patterns could easily solve this problem and would be in keeping with the synth's UI / UX paradigm.
Other than that, lovin' the thing more than I thought I would.
you can preview the sound; so if when you short press load you get the same sound as when you long press load you'll know no user preset is saved here. What I'd do is before working on a patch I'd locate an empty slot this way. You can also preview sounds without loading them (long press menu to cancel) so when in doubt you can try to locate a sound you're sure you don't want to keep. I agree some different flashing patterns could help; it take me quite some time (and a sysex dump) to realize there was no pre-recorded patches on the user slots and that loading a user patch when there was no recorded simply loads the factory patch.
How do u make a new initialized patch?
G6 (Poly) and G7 (unison) are initial patches
🤔..I was thinking about pairing the Nymphes with the UNO Pro, but the mental menu gymnastics to make some cool sounds from those synths…will fry the 3 brain cells I have left 😞
Wow. Well, I guess I'm never saving a patch.
amazing sounding synth but it’s like Cyrillic to operate menu diving is a lot easier thanks!
That's good then, because you can learn the Cyrillic alphabet in about an hour.
That is Prockgnosis speaking
it takes 4 minutes to describe loading and saving a patch ...
Eros has hit me
The save process looks like opening a safe lol. Should be here tomorrow, can't wait! (also looking forward to trying out Tim Shoebridge's software editor ruclips.net/video/oKVnH8RiJ9I/видео.html)
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
When your minimalist interface ends up being more complex to use than a simple screen + rotary...
Please don’t show how it sounds!! Thank you!!
Sound examples are totally overrated. We just need a sales dude telling the world how cool the synths feature are...I'm going to sample the voice of the spokeshypster and see what I come up with in a mix until we're going to hear some real demos that show little more than the narrow patch-spectrum currently available on YT. Whats your problem? Show us what Nymphes is capable of in a "no talk" , no BS presentation. We buy gear for the sound and not based on marketing talks. For a little extra on top of the price of Nymphes I can get myself a Moog Subharmonicon and beside that there are plenty of analog boutique Synths outhere in the nymphes price range. Convince people with a range of sounds and not with a range of talks. Btw, your utterly embarassing cringe gloves dont make things up for the missing sound...
Your point is clear, but why the hostile tone?...you are not talking to a giant corporation trying to bullshit you with marketing tricks. It's a small team trying to do their best and so far they are doing more than fine IMO...
for real?!
Good luck if you’ve a disability using this interface.
This is so bad, I can’t believe it came from the same company that made Typhon. What were they thinking? I get that it’s a cheap 6 voice poly but at this price range why would anyone buy this? The UI sucks.
Honesty, yes it is difficult, we are not trying to say it's easy, we would not make this video if it was. Its a new approach and all it requires is 30 min of your time, after that point its dead easy.
the most complicated and non user friendly interface of a synth.