And what little updates they did throw out, anyone could have really done in like a few days tops. Remember all those "Big map changes"? That turned out to be just throwing in some extra pre made assets around the map. That is something anyone could have done in a day
They know exactly what the player base wants. They also know they aren't going to give us what everyone wants. Don't for a second think that they don't understand what people want.
You’re absolutely right, Joe. AAA developers should not be releasing “updates” showcasing work-in-progress on full-priced games that dropped 6 months ago. The sooner gamers stop paying for unfinished garbage, the sooner these developers will start making games worth playing again.
That's games "as a service" for ya. Sell you the idea of a game, then hopefully patch that idea into a game over the course of a year or two under the guise of "free content". It's crazy how we thought DLC and MTX's were the bane of video games. I miss buying a complete game at launch and a some expansions a few months later. Way better than this IV drip bag of content we get from most games now
@@Wulfen109 The fact that so many gamers got sucked by this is really sad. Unfortunately, like the "whales" in mobile gaming, those are the ones the devs pay attention to: morons who get all excited and worked up from seeing animations, and can forgive shitty gameplay and unfinished products. I can't believe Dice is showing a trailer with no actual gameplay improvement whatsoever, only cosmetic shit, and expect a standing ovation.
Well, you know... If basic hitboxes don't work on release after a game has been delayed for over a year it certainly says something. Sadly enough vehicle combat is just as bad. Like, for real; if this game wouldn't have had operators I'm pretty sure there'd be a stable fanboy-base that they could milk with micro-transactions somehow (actual good gun skins like in Apex). But they pushed it too far. I think CS:GO/apex have a good balance when it comes to micro's; they're valuable/cool but don't interfere with the gameplay and if you don't want to mess around with it you don't have to. Everybody happy. Now everybody sad.
Powerful succinct observation,@@MrInsertyn . 👍🏼 Hitboxes did not work , after a delay. That alone should’ve been the clue of how _tish_ the game would be & how incompetent DICE is now
Well it's like they didn't design this game at all. It's hard to even understand. If we assume they started to work on the game a month before release then they wouldn't have had time to do anything new, they would have pretty much copy pasted old maps, weapons, mechanics, ui etc. and it would have been better than given. Or if they had ample time with the project they should have been able to do what they wanted. So how come they keep repeating "Things didn't work like we wanted"?
It's corporate gaslighting. They know they have a problem but actually fixing it is either expensive or cockblocked by their bosses, so they make a bad faith "fix" for an aspect of the problem that wasn't broken so they can put out a release saying "PROBLEM FIXED"
After their last shit show BFV the fanboys should have known not to trust EA/Dice BF4 launch, BF hardline, and the crap game BFV and double telling the fan base "if you don't like it don't buy it" I was right on the money this game was going to be crap while most of everyone was being lemmings and jumping on the hype train. Dice is right what a time be alive to witness the downfall of Dice and battlefield 👏.
When I think about battlefield, I think of the dirt on the characters faces. I am so glad that the developers have finally realized this and am eager to see their next brilliant realization.
After over a hundred hours into this game... I tried, I really did. I refuse to even be a single player count number that contributes to this ongoing nonsense. Abort asap and go back to the drawing board to start from scratch.
DICE/EA: "We're going to stick with our Specialists." Me: "I'm going to stick with my boycott, because I'm not interested playing some Call of Duty / Apex Legends / Fortnite hybrid garbage."
Are they really that out of touch? Is some overlord at their meetings really that stubborn they won't back down and remove specialists? It's almost unbelievable
I like how they have the BF4 and BF1 in the back and taking credit for the things that they didn't accomplish. This DICE is not the same DICE that released those games.
Lars Gustavsson was actually one of the principal designers behind Battlefield 1. He's the so-called "father" of the Battlefield series (he's been with DICE from the very beginning ever since Digital Illusions was acquired by EA), so I don't know why you're claiming he's "taking credit for something that he didn't accomplish" when he clearly did contribute towards Battlefield 1. Source: wikipedia article for "Battlefield 1"
@@BennyGoId there are reports, that many Dice employees left the company during Battlefield 5. Sure, they still have Lars for example, but you can see especially at the aweful UI of 2042, that there are different people working on the series now.
They aren't. Many veterans left the franchise before battlefield v released to make embark studios. Tom Henderson made a video on this game's development and it was a TRAINWRECK behind the scenes. Dice is run by people who are new, inexperienced and who don't listen to feedback from their developers
It's so clear that DICE did not eat their dogfood during production. This game is loaded with bad ideas that would have never survived early prototyping at a competent studio.
They literally had the opportunity to abandon specialists and bring back classes as a sign of goodwill (however miniscule it is) but greed and stupidity always finds a way I suppose
The game started as a Battle Royale. They already admitted it. Once they dropped that, every single bad decision in the game made sense. The special "hero" like characters, the massive maps that are too big even for two teams of 64. The lack of Campaign. The awful map design for two factions fighting for control. The awful vehicle physics. The lack of a Scoreboard. How bafflingly bad Breaktrhough was designed (it was 99.9% impossible to win as an attacker). THe special Fortnite like skins they were trying to push at the start. Everything screams "This wasn't gonna be a BF at all"
@@christiananddanyell or specialists could have been devided INTO classes...or some kind of special dudes you can get with earned points etc....dont know
When they said " more immersion, and fixing specialist" I for some reason had hope. Then they said "add more dirt" and I literally got hot in the face. And 8 months after this failure this is it? I would have felt better if they got rid of specialists, and just fixed performance. Just those 2 things would be mountain's better than EVERYTHING they have shown. It would bring more playability and immersion which is something bf 2042 lacks. I can't believe this... I really cant.
pathetic indeed. so called "commited" yet releasing content in such a snail base.....fixing ONE old map at a season per season basis is slap in face...wake tf up DICE, game is dead already as it is. Live service what a joke.....drought roll out of content.
I was a huge BF fan and I’m happy the sales for this game failed so hard. I hope karma catches up with the people responsible for this abomination and kicks them in the ass.
Players: "We want the classes back, the maps suck, and the vehicle balance is out of fucking control." Devs: "Don't worry, we're making the character animations slightly better. Also, we added dirt and boxes."
If people wanted specialists, they'd go play Fortnite or Overwatch. Battlefield should look to the base they have rather than try and be a shite copy of an oversaturated market.
@@Karifi pretentious romanticized view of horrific warfare. Check. Shit bitesize campaign. Check. Social justice agenda that creeps into madness by BFV. Check. Dogshit maps. Check. Shit weapons and call of duty SMG spam. Check. Last good BF was BF4
"They're (Specialists) are a KEY part of 2042 but we need to get it right". This quote will probably go down in Battlefield history as the final nail in the coffin of what is left of this franchise.
Finally someone see what is happening with this game. There are new Leaders Managers who wanted to change/destroy BF style game to CoD. And after 12years they finally did it. This is happening now With World of Warcraft too New generation of evil people Devs Managers Leftists activist Corporate looser are taking over our beloved franchises. They are Dead
@@stewybstewy they could make 5 classes and make the existing gadgets part of each class and sell Medic or assault skins. It makes no sense why they want to die on this hill
@@malazan6004 It would probably still take them too long to implement. They did make the game with the specialists in mind so they literally can't go back to classes or they'll have another few months-delay.
Community manager: "Let's start by talking about the main focus areas that we've identified and the types of things we're looking to improve" Me: "EVERYTHING!!!!"
@Marturion's gaming holly fuck right. Refund people half they money at least and just drop this bullshit gimmick. Fucking shit I’d take hardline over 2042 anyday lmfao. Shit I can still go back n play hardline n have a fun exciting time. 2 matches of 2042 . Is a headache in itself not too mention impossible
@@graysonbeck5597 no but I think people irrationally hate them. Whether you like it or not the game is built around specialists so it’s not as simple as “rEmOvE sPeCiALiStS”.
@@brianharrington7663 the game is built around specialists, and thats why people hate the game. The game is flawed in every way compared to the old games.
Holy shit, that "improving the soldier animations" part is crazy. Its not hard to create that sort of "turns the gun until they get into an uncomfortable position" thing; standard Third Person Shooter tutorials on youtube will tell you how to do that in Unity 3d and Unreal Engine (Maybe Gadot, too, but I don't use it so I don't know). They're straight up showing you shit that YOU can program yourself in free engines, and pretending they're good updates.
Exactly, whats even more embarrassing is that this is an update for a 7 month old game when these animations should be a launch feature... I cannot believe gaming has reached a point where core fundamental animations like character movements are being patched in
We all now that bf5 wasn't the best battlefield, but we can all agree that it had enough ui options, great movement, graphics and more. It was definitly best battlefield if we look at quality of life and graphic improvements. Battlefield 2042 went back to battlefield 3, or no bf3 had more options and more realistic movement. Its like all the devs forgot what they did in the previous games.
Not only animation, but also the map design and 128 players integration... They are basically announcing they have set the time period, and now they are starting to work on the game mechanics / map design ! How is that possible to annouce through a dev interview that the game is not even ready for the beta phase ? 😂
No, you're right AngryJoe. Hold these people ACCOUNTABLE. We have value as a customer, and we can choose when they get their money. It's time to normalize not enabling/supporting these POS money grubbers, and mock and shame the people who continue to feed their addictions to these corporate scam artists.
Anyone who’s been playing 2042 is the reason games are releasing this way. Their account names should be recorded so they can forever be known as the pathetic EA simps they are.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 It's an addiction. "Man I really need that next Battlefield!" *knowing full well it's going to be a major let-down.* Consumers in 2022 need to wake up and vote with their wallets. It's how the market works, and not rocket science.
I play 2042 cuz I still find the game fun in some area’s, I don’t agree with the direction of the game and all that, but personally kinda enjoy playing it, but I agree it should of came out better.
@@lolicongang.4974 They are. it's their fault that it's broken, but at least they are fixing it. I just hope they bring back classes or something very close, bring back the server browser which still isn't here somehow and have more maps for future Seasons. BFV updates were scarce for the first 8 or so months i believe so Season 2 could have more than 1 map and if it doesn't, i don't see people coming back to this game so... that's up to them.
@@DeadSpacedOut They wont bring back classes, for the next game, maybe, but Dice is way too adamant on keeping specialists in this game. I'm pretty sure they could face legal repercussions because they promised more specialists, which is why they are adamant of not removing them. Probably the best possible outcome is for this game to die faster so they can work on the next game sooner rather than later.
“We’re not moving away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042..” Let me start with the fact that I have no experience in business. However, I have plenty of experience as a consumer. And I am having such a difficult time wrapping my head around why they just won’t say “sorry, we screwed up, we will work in classes.” If they even kept specialist perks in the game but just gave the squad leader a specialist or something dumb like that idk I wouldn’t even care, but my point is, if NOBODY likes your game because of this thing you refuse to acknowledge, NOBODY IS GOING TO LIKE THE GAME
Same story goes with bfv with dice key feature no one asked for Attrition system * 1 year later dice finally removes it... Sad thing is specialist are forever...
Because Call of Duty's monetization is the same. Because Apex Legend's monetization is the same. Because Rainbow 6 Siege's monetization is the same. There's nothing to wrap your head around. This game was clearly a market trend chase in a pathetic attempt to cash in on the success of their competitors instead of sticking to their formula that has worked countless times before. Big Wig corporate heads clamoring, "wElL cAlL oF dUtY dId ThIs AnD mAdE lOaDs Of MoNeY"
its started this year 2022. I see pattern where devs Sit at table and talk Sht in their own bubble! I see that lot of AAA studios are doing this now. Its pathetic
We have grown to a culture now that celebrates mediocrity and praises broken products that get fixed when they never should of been broken in the first place. Destroying the pride and standards that we once had.
I fell pray to the marketing and pre ordered, I’ve learnt my lesson. I do not want to condone this poor development mindset, it’s sad to see where not only dice are going but where gaming is going as a whole
True, being able to update a game after launch really is a double-edged sword. Sure, games can have minor bugs fixed afterwards BUT it has created the "release broken fix later" mindset. Combine that with extra monetization like lootboxes, battle pass and skins on top of a road map full of lies and empty promises...🤑 I really don't get why people still pre-order/buy day one. I stopped buying games right away as soon as complete and GOTY editions started showing up. FOMO is also a common tactic used to lure players in but that does not affect me personally. I only play single player or local splitscreen. If anyone is on the fence of "should i pre-order or not" think about this: is it better to buy a new game for 70$ or buy it later when bugs are mostly fixed, prices have dropped, and any DLC is included in the purchase. For single player games it is a no-brainer, but with the "live service" it's always a gamble. After all, servers can get shut down at anytime.
I tried coming back to this game, and one of the biggest problems I had, was how fast everyone moves! It seems like there's no room for mid range fighting, and the best strategy as infantry is the either snipe, or hop around the map with an SMG, like its CoD.
I partially agree. BF1 is definitely built for a more rush heavy play style than previous games. But the raw movement speed is fairly slow. I remember at the time, some people complaining about it feeling slow compared to other shooters of the time. And with BF1 it still felt like there were battle lines. I think part of that is the movement speed and more grounded movement options, as well as the fact BF1 still Had spotting as a default for everyone. I could still play that game at a mid range, and just feel like an infantryman. Playing Rush on 2042 felt incredibly disorganized, with people in wing suits, and grappling hooks, and body armor, zipping around all over the place. And even worse, everyone looks the same! Perhaps some of those things have been improved in the new update? I haven't tried it yet.
No amount of "redesigns" and rebalancing will convince me to pick this game up. The game, and by extension the developers, had their chance and they blew it.
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S there are plenty of developers that are on board with this stuff too dude. It's not always the upper people. If you take business people away you get an industry full of Kojimas that never release games. It's a balancing act rhat requires both sides.
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S no the developers are involved here too. Normally I don’t think developers deserve shit, but here, it’s very clear the developers give none themselves. They deserve the backlash they’re receiving
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S TBH I think the issue is that after years of low pay, crunch, and general misstatement, all the actual talented developers have left Dice. Actually given how many games release terrible, it feels like this is the case for most AAA studios.
@@ninjafrog6966 The developers just do what they are told. AAA studios have very talented programmers/artists/game designers... usually when there's fuck ups it's because of management and/or executives. Battlefield 2042 probably got messed up because the game started development as a Battle Royale and they switched direction midway. Hence the specialists and weird map designs and lackluster destruction. That's not the developers fault.
Nothing makes or breaks a company like 'word of mouth' Tell every gamer you know not to buy another product from these guys. They have no problem lying and stealing your money...make sure they feel the consequences of that. Clearly they heard our complaints, reviewed them...and decided to continue on with the cash-grab-COD-microtransaction-model bullshit.
They know it is a failure so they are going to try to milk as much as possible before they finally abandon it. I think they are contractually obligated to do at least 1 season, after that it’s probably lights out.
problem is, Joe has a mouth which reaches a lot of people. and the words that come out of it keep hyping up all the new dank AAA games based on fake trailers.
“We’re not walking away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042.” Yeah, a key part for your cash cow with micro transactions. That’s the only reason why specialists are in BF2042. F this game.
I like it how they're not waling away from specialists, don't they realized the fans have all walked away from specialists? Gosh. Dice should just stfu at this point and take the L, and never make another game again.
my favorite line is when he says "we need to make sure we get it right and we can deliver to our players what they deserve" that's something you're allowed to say before the game launches, after the game launches it should be "we need to make sure we clean the bed after we shat in it"
From this update video it's clear that whoever the top management at DICE or EA is are the kinds of people who can't tolerate hearing bad news, are surrounded by yes men, and *HAVE* to be right about everything. Even when it causes their multimillion dollar to produce video game to flop. It doesn't matter how much they frame their BS as "being positive", saying stuff like this says more about your company than a broken & poor product ever could. No wonder there is rampant abuse at major video game studios when there are people like this in charge. Honestly the AAA video game industry is due for a crash and things like "Seasons" for video games are stupid, have always been stupid, and will continue to be stupid. I'm not paying for updates or other additional content when I pay top dollar for your product. AAA games have truly become all the worst parts of Cable TV, which is why I avoid them.
"to improve the readability of body motions in 3rd person, we took animations from the previous games and applied them to our character models in 2042 so they don't look like they were done by amateurs anymore"
This is so EA levels of "fixing." We're active in the community and we've read and appreciate your comments. The players said what they've wanted, and we heard you. That being said, we're confident in our own research that we've identified the areas that needed improvement and we could address." Then they go on and "fix" things that nobody is talking about. Why? Because they are doing the laziest things they can do. "Quick, what can we spruce up that won't take us much time and then market it as major upgrades so we can tell the dupes we did something." It is the same thing they do with Madden games.
“You don’t like it because your confused” I’m sorry joe but he is right. We are confused, confused as to why they ever though this idea would bear fruit.
When Star Wars Battlefront 2 came out, I thought I would NEVER buy it. But when I heard that the game is drastically getting better, and I got it for free at Epic Games. It's now one of the best games for Star Wars fans, including myself. I thought Dice learned something from this... Nope.
The lack of variety with the new props around the map speaks volumes as well. Seriously it looks like someone went into the world editor one afternoon and just spammed 4 assets everywhere. The whole map looks under construction. 😂
@@gaulishrealist BF4 literally has more players at this point. Are you a BF fanboy in denial? Or just dense? The game is beyond saving. Take a dose of copium and come back to reality friend. I love battlefield,but this one was so bad the franchises reputation is severely tarnished.
Good,you should be happy then,it has to crash and burn...well it’s already burning,but yeah it has to fail so those completely out of touch developers will never again have any say in anything.
@@-------------764 comparing a survival open world game to a broken fps game, and the fact that DICE has always been trash and transparent to the community
@@-------------764 How easily you forget all the titles EA left to rot. Remember Anthem? Need For Speed? Titanfall? Command and Conquer? Simcity? Metal Of Honor? The list goes on. "Oh but No Mans Sky!" Hello Games made that and turned it around, not EA. You can't defend one company because an entirely different one did something good.
yeah like when the game broke the 5k players online they should have pulled the plug, also not going to fix the game just forget about it and make the next year game lol
I have never played Battlefield before, it's not really my kinda thing, but ever since that rant video I've been following this game closely just to see where it goes It's pretty sad to scroll down and read the comments, so many people disappointed. It feels terrible to have a favorite franchise drop the ball this hard. Sorry this happened, guys.
@@troypowers750 Ouch the first thing I thought about when reading this was fallout. Weve seen too many great franchises lose their identity and it sucks.
There's no way they would actually try to salvage this. They should just make Battlefield Portal into a full game with all maps from Battlefield 3-5 and all of the gear etc. and call it a day. I do not trust Dice with trying out any new ideas at this point.
I agree, Portal is the best thing about this whole thing. Might actually get some amazing mods and maps through that if they open it up. The main game is...well...TECHNICALLY a game.
Literally this. Just take Battlefield 3, 4, 1 and V and cram them into Portal mode, re-release it for $20-$30, rebrand it as Battlefield Portal and call it a day
Why the fuck you going to skimp out 1942? What the fuck is wrong with you! To this day I still say that 1942 is the better Battlefield out of all of them in the whole series because unlike the literal majority of the games that either give you reserve ammo for your BS camping with snipers or removing aspects of war like Battlefield 1943 that removed naval warfare entirely, the series is literally called BATTLEFIELD, the lines aren't just on fucking land. 1942 had the best class system where all of the classes were balanced AROUND the kits they had, Snipers were extremely deadly as only two body shots were needed to drop someone, however that was balanced by giving them only FIFTEEN BULLETS, you were actually encouraged to go for headshots because of your limited ammo supply because bodyshotting someone was considered a waste of ammo and the entire enemy team would fear you if you knew you were a good shot with the class.
I totally agree with Joe. This should have been done before launch. If we want to be heard everyone needs to keep voicing their disappointment and issues they have with this game. It's because of people like Joe, that have a large following, that make these people listen. We need to stand up and say NO to being force fed features "Specialists" we don't want and who's sole purpose is to make money for share holders. EA is garbage!
Don’t buy the game. That’s the only thing these shit companies understand. The devs at Dice and WORLD LEADING EXPERTS and know EXACTLY how to make the game we want. They’re purposefully being lazy.
You can do this by simply not playing the game. At the time of this comment there's 1200 players on steam literally delusional players, maybe if that number reaches 0 they would actually think twice the next time before releasing a game like this lol.
Have you looked at Blizzard's "diversity chart"? I always knew there had to be a sort of checklist when game companies create those cringy characters, but now I'm sure the same happened with BF 2042 and its cringy "specialists".
Most Battlefield games are rough at launch, but an amazing experience a year after launch…at this rate, Battlefield 2042 will be good in about 5 or 6 years lol
I'm sick and tired of people making excuses for million dollar corperations. Older gamers know the evolution & devolution of gaming. We know what should be expected while newer gamers don't know what they're loosing out on. They think it's normal to buy passes and all this other crap sold separately when it used to be in games by default. We are literally living in the best age of gaming with the WORST the gaming industry has ever been. I would argue that we are living in the golden age of gaming possibilities hindered by corperate greed. We can practically make any game anyone can think of but instead it's held back by money making game mechanics, unfinished games, ripped content sold as DLC and forced live service amongst other trends. 🤦 I can't believe EA tried to say single player games are a thing of the past that nobody wants. You realize how awesome it is to buy a game like Blazing Chrome and feel like you bought a brand new SNES game in modern day? Every game and style has it's place and gaming companies don't understand that anymore. Otherwise we would have the Paper Mario A thousand year door 2 already. Not every game has to fit the newest money making model or else they aren't games, they're gambling machines.
I know your frustration. I've come across some of the most asinine rationale for these greedy and exploitative business practices. Sometimes, they even admit to getting ripped of, but make some BS excuse for why it's a good thing. One guy bought the day one DLC for V Rising (which came out in Early Access) and basically said that he regretted getting the DLC because it was way over priced but was okay with the idea that he was supporting the devs. More or less saying, "They charged too much and ripped me off, I regret letting myself be ripped off, but I support the devs ripping me off." Besides the issue of day one DLC existing for early access games being BS to begin with (for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who knows what early access is), it's sad to see people just accept that they are going to get screwed and just live like that's how it's supposed to be. This is all this generation knows, and even if we preach about a time when things were more fair for us, and how we should demand that we get treated more fairly, they defend the current practices and gleefully get ripped off. And so game companies keep pushing the line that gamers today keep letting them get away with. Partly through ignorance, and partly through compulsive behaviors and just a lack of self control (gotta get that new shiny!). Frustrating to see the gaming industry that I grew up with, and grew up with me, has turned into.
I hope the game industry will evolve like the music industry, now artists can be so independent and release the music they like and how they like when they like because they dont need to be signed by a big corporation one day maybe videogames studios will reach that kind of independency
Step 1. Just leave it ded. Step 2. Hire a seasoned creative director and give him full control. Step 3. Give him time and money to develop the next game and don't meddle.
And now that you've got a focused team lead by a creative genius make sure he doesn't speak in public or bring his porn to restaurants... or harass anyone.
Nothing they listed sounds like an improvement to the core gameplay pitfalls they purposefully placed in the game. Not coming back for this and not going with them where they go in the future. RIP Battlefield
“We’re not moving away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042..” Cool, I'm still not buying the game then. If they're this stubborn about keeping them, ignoring everyone suggestintg to remove them or at least bring back classes. Then they are truly disconnected from their community. Should have scrapped it long ago and started a fresh.
Is it just me or would this go over better if this wasn't so scripted? It sounds SO perfect you can smell the crap a mile away. Wouldn't it be WAY better and WAY more trusting if they brought in people like Angry Joe to a taped meeting and explain, unscripted, that yeah, we messed up, we're sorry. But here's a road map. I would be like "ya. Real talk. I'll consider going back".
@@nikolozgilles sometimes I stop and think about the games I played when I was growing up. When there wasn't any patches or hotfixes. When I buyed a game I got a complete game A to Z, it was tested to death, and the company thanked you for your purchase. Gone are those days until these companies, or suits or money people or WHOEVER, leave the developers alone and let then do what they need to do. I'm legit angry now.
Nah I’m good. They clearly took assets from previous titles and they want a pat on the back for “listening to players”? We shouldn’t reward this kind of consumer abuse especially when it’s EA.
It really seems like they just said “eh, a few boxes here, some sandbags there and a container over there” and called it a day. Doesn’t seem like they put much effort into the map changes, and at this point I’ve come to expect that lol.
What the devs are saying is "We're finally addressing the issues the thousands of players told us about before they all uninstalled BF2042 and vowed to never buy another BF, EA game".
When he started talking about improving guns I thought oh maybe they'll make them work now, and when he said they like the attachment system and how it "makes every gun feel unique"I lost it. Do they even hear themselves? How can they believe the monumental amount of bullshit coming out of their own mouths??
The weapons in game were by far my biggest disappointment. Going from BF4's millions of combinations and like 200 guns to 20 guns including 1 semi automatic pistol, 4 assualt rifles and a handful of other guns was such a fucking joke. I am so glad I never paid for this pile of shit. What a joke this studio has become.
The worst part is that ea cut live support for other games (bf 2) to have all hands on deck for this game. But their update 6 months after launch is “we’re adding boxes!”. Nice EA, such a great decision. 😒 Edit: oh wow! They added dirt 🤣.
What’s hilarious is that most of the BF2 team as I understand it didn’t even come over. The big named people that made they game into what it is today all left.
I'm seriously sitting here, attempting to think of a part of 2042 that they did not screw up. Seems to me they managed to f up everything from basic map design and FPS mechanics, all the way to literally everything new they attempted to add. Have these people ever made an FPS game before? Wtf? 128 player matches, specialists, and tornadoes were the main hype points of this game, before release. Well, they just got rid of 128 player matches, specialists are almost universally hated among the fans, and everyone was over the tornadoes before the beta was over. This game can't fail hard enough to satisfy my fan-rage, although they seem to be trying as hard as they possibly can.
When they talked about the Map improvements and Movement changes I couldn't help but laugh. It feels like these were solved problems, it just doesn't make any sense to me like "OH yeah, we forgot about putting stuff in our empty maps." Also "We've fixed third person animations that shouldn't have been that stiff to begin with." Also "we're a multi billion dollar company btw."
you know whats more funny is that they never speak into the camera but only into their colleagues eyes. Using 'us' and 'we' as if the 2 other robots reading off a script are the community.
I’ve been a battlefield fan my whole life. Probably my favorite shooter series of all time. This is the first one I did not buy but I heavily looked into it (hence why I didn’t buy it) so I’m aware of the problems it has. Speaking for myself and my group of seven friends who all love Battlefield, we will not buy this game unless the specialist system is removed and replaced with the classic squad system. It hurts watching this and seeing that they are doubling down on specialists. Looks like no battlefield for me this generation.
Im sorry then but lol the amount of resources it would take to remove specialists would basically make it a brand new game. Tbh if this battlefield was good and it launced bug free and packed full of great content then i dont think specalists wouldn't be as hated as everyone makes em out to be. Tbh..
@@gameexpert133 I disagree with you sir. I believe that the squad system and the limitations that each class has in the equipment load-out forces/encourages players to work together and communicate with each other. By removing a pillar of the battlefield experience I think that any game released by them without it will feel shallow and won’t sit well with the fan base.
I only wish me and my other 3 friends who were big fans of battlefield games had never bought this one for that premium price. Giving it to a company like this is sin. I have every battlefield games but I seriously doubt that I will reinstalled origin ever again.
@@DownhillPlague lol it alows for greater flexibility at some points like being a support who can throw armor and ammo and revive anyone is awesome ngl its thhe ultimate medic power fantasy
When the dev talks about Hazard Zone he straight up admits that they built their maps around that mode. That explains why all the maps feel like they're meant for extraction style squad shooters and don't work at all in the proper teambased battlefield modes.
As a lifelong WoW player as well as Battlefield, the mistakes DICE is making remind me sooo much of Blizzard. "Trust us fans. We're right and you're wrong" for MULTIPLE GAMES until their franchise is on life support. Then they gotta come out of their precious ivory tower and finally communicate. Communication that WREAKS of PR.
not removing specialist no buy. I would also settle for some hybrid where the specialist are sectioned out into classes that restrict guns and/or gadgets
I agree it doesn't really seem like the maps are "reimagined" to me it looks like these versions of the maps are actually the complete versions of them and they released the game with the earliest builds they had of them A good way to make it look like they're making changes 😂
The fact that they're like "No you guys don't understand this is all so cool! Just got to make specialists more dirty!" I find infuriating. Not only did they come out dead on arrival but they can't even admit it. "Are you in loser denial or something??" - Billy Madison
Personally, I applaud you for pointing out the issues that should have been fixed before launch of this game. I beta tested this game, and we told them about many of these issues and it basically fell on deaf ears. I am so disappointed in this game and this is my favorite shooter series. I really hope that as they are working on the next Battlefield (which they mostly are right now) I really hope that they actually listen to the players this time, and not just continue to go with what clearly doesn't work.
Hazard zone and specialists being a straight up FAILURE should tell them to stop trying to please audiences that don't even care about their game while also basically shutting out the hardcore fans of the franchise. This is what happens when you follow trends instead of building on what already works. I really hope this whole ordeal has been a learning lesson for them. I'm sadly im doubtful
Damn I feel bad for you but I got burned by dying light and did not expect to be blessed by Elden Ring in these dark times despite it's bullshit late game boss's lol
2042 is the most embarrassing release in the history of battlefield. The way they are explaining things is very arrogant. They haven't earned that. They need to abandon this garbage and work on a new game. The maps have zero personality. This game was designed from the ground up to sell skins. That is what they put their resources into. Nobody wants to dress up their toon if the game sucks. They can't admit that specialists don't work. I bet that we will see specialists in the next battlefield game. They've invested in an entire future of cosmetics they want to sell. They're going to try and sell them.
The fact that we're over 6 months since release and Season 1 hasn't even started yet speaks volumes to how badly this game released...
Babylon's Fall has been releasing more content than this in that span of time
Hey,they just made a scoreboard hmph,gamers and their brutal expectations,better buy a beanie.
And what little updates they did throw out, anyone could have really done in like a few days tops. Remember all those "Big map changes"? That turned out to be just throwing in some extra pre made assets around the map. That is something anyone could have done in a day
best part is they are talking at a table like its 2 months in and their game isn't already dead
Indeed and speaks volumes to how BAD this team is compared to the teams that made battlefield what is was.
yo the moment he said "dirtier specialist" I couldn't stop laughing. I can't believe this company is this disconnected from its player base
Straight up a Hard Drive article.
He probably got briefed by marketing and PR before filming
Ain’t touching this filthy game
Ain't touching this filthy game
They know exactly what the player base wants.
They also know they aren't going to give us what everyone wants.
Don't for a second think that they don't understand what people want.
You’re absolutely right, Joe. AAA developers should not be releasing “updates” showcasing work-in-progress on full-priced games that dropped 6 months ago. The sooner gamers stop paying for unfinished garbage, the sooner these developers will start making games worth playing again.
I’m waiting for this to hit gamepass
That's games "as a service" for ya. Sell you the idea of a game, then hopefully patch that idea into a game over the course of a year or two under the guise of "free content". It's crazy how we thought DLC and MTX's were the bane of video games. I miss buying a complete game at launch and a some expansions a few months later. Way better than this IV drip bag of content we get from most games now
@@Wulfen109 The fact that so many gamers got sucked by this is really sad. Unfortunately, like the "whales" in mobile gaming, those are the ones the devs pay attention to: morons who get all excited and worked up from seeing animations, and can forgive shitty gameplay and unfinished products. I can't believe Dice is showing a trailer with no actual gameplay improvement whatsoever, only cosmetic shit, and expect a standing ovation.
I love how they're basically just admitting that they didn't design this game with the actual infantry combat in mind. Amazing.
Well, you know... If basic hitboxes don't work on release after a game has been delayed for over a year it certainly says something. Sadly enough vehicle combat is just as bad.
Like, for real; if this game wouldn't have had operators I'm pretty sure there'd be a stable fanboy-base that they could milk with micro-transactions somehow (actual good gun skins like in Apex). But they pushed it too far. I think CS:GO/apex have a good balance when it comes to micro's; they're valuable/cool but don't interfere with the gameplay and if you don't want to mess around with it you don't have to. Everybody happy.
Now everybody sad.
Shout out to battlefield 1
Powerful succinct observation,@@MrInsertyn . 👍🏼 Hitboxes did not work , after a delay. That alone should’ve been the clue of how _tish_ the game would be & how incompetent DICE is now
@@brunotonyoli9408 Battlefield 1 was the game of the century compared to this.
Well it's like they didn't design this game at all. It's hard to even understand. If we assume they started to work on the game a month before release then they wouldn't have had time to do anything new, they would have pretty much copy pasted old maps, weapons, mechanics, ui etc. and it would have been better than given. Or if they had ample time with the project they should have been able to do what they wanted. So how come they keep repeating "Things didn't work like we wanted"?
Community: “We don’t like specialists.”
DICE:”Got it, more dirt!”
Community:”…”
Community:”what?”
DICE: "..what?"
Community. ".............."
DICE: "ah....even more dirt then?"
This legit made me laugh so hard! So true🤣🤣🤣
DICE: “AH Angel does it again.”
It's corporate gaslighting. They know they have a problem but actually fixing it is either expensive or cockblocked by their bosses, so they make a bad faith "fix" for an aspect of the problem that wasn't broken so they can put out a release saying "PROBLEM FIXED"
@@philmc3306 $5 for more dirt
If the dice developers had the same dedication to this game as they did to their hair and beard care they would have made the best game in the series
Beard ugly not gonna lie
They’re trending for sure lmao
After their last shit show BFV the fanboys should have known not to trust EA/Dice BF4 launch, BF hardline, and the crap game BFV and double telling the fan base "if you don't like it don't buy it" I was right on the money this game was going to be crap while most of everyone was being lemmings and jumping on the hype train. Dice is right what a time be alive to witness the downfall of Dice and battlefield 👏.
Gotta look good while they're peddling their BS.
@@greenlightstudio5302 give yourself a pat on your back
When I think about battlefield, I think of the dirt on the characters faces. I am so glad that the developers have finally realized this and am eager to see their next brilliant realization.
Wait until the Premium Dirt they offer as DLC
@@asecretone TRUEEE, remember BFV with those face paint that just looks like dirt? EXACTLY
they didnt forget it, 2042 is a experiment in how much corners they can cut to maximise profit, dont be fooled.
Dice: Hear us out.... Dirty beanies
8 Special Editions with varying dirt levels on face, clothes, boots and weapons
"We're not abandoning the specalists" then I guess we are abandoning the game
After over a hundred hours into this game... I tried, I really did. I refuse to even be a single player count number that contributes to this ongoing nonsense. Abort asap and go back to the drawing board to start from scratch.
Russianbadger would be the opposite cause "game is fun"
I thought we already did when the beta launched
@@BVaccaro88 A hundred hours???
@@BVaccaro88 Why the heck would you play for a hundred hours? You know that other games exist, right?
DICE/EA: "We're going to stick with our Specialists."
Me: "I'm going to stick with my boycott, because I'm not interested playing some Call of Duty / Apex Legends / Fortnite hybrid garbage."
Yep, no bf fan wanted their bullshit rainbow six siege crap, all I want is a game like bf4 with new maps, that all.
Sorry friend but I disappointed whit you comment friend, very bad comment indeed
You forgot the Rainbow Six Siege shitty Ubisoft operators
@@tauroadventures7897 siege started great, but now its a random mess
@@hoen2009 My opinion is that after Para Bellum... It all went to shit. Real fast.
Are they really that out of touch? Is some overlord at their meetings really that stubborn they won't back down and remove specialists? It's almost unbelievable
I like how they have the BF4 and BF1 in the back and taking credit for the things that they didn't accomplish.
This DICE is not the same DICE that released those games.
Oh yeah, very different. Lots of low skilled individuals. It's clear their vetting process is based on something else...
Yes, the old DICE we knew is gone...from now on Battlefield from DICE is like Halo post-Bungie...utter disappointment!
Lars Gustavsson was actually one of the principal designers behind Battlefield 1. He's the so-called "father" of the Battlefield series (he's been with DICE from the very beginning ever since Digital Illusions was acquired by EA), so I don't know why you're claiming he's "taking credit for something that he didn't accomplish" when he clearly did contribute towards Battlefield 1. Source: wikipedia article for "Battlefield 1"
@@BennyGoId there are reports, that many Dice employees left the company during Battlefield 5. Sure, they still have Lars for example, but you can see especially at the aweful UI of 2042, that there are different people working on the series now.
They aren't. Many veterans left the franchise before battlefield v released to make embark studios. Tom Henderson made a video on this game's development and it was a TRAINWRECK behind the scenes. Dice is run by people who are new, inexperienced and who don't listen to feedback from their developers
It's so clear that DICE did not eat their dogfood during production. This game is loaded with bad ideas that would have never survived early prototyping at a competent studio.
They literally had the opportunity to abandon specialists and bring back classes as a sign of goodwill (however miniscule it is) but greed and stupidity always finds a way I suppose
Have you seen COD? not defending battlefield but these type of comments always assume all these devs aren't idiots, which we know isn't true
The game started as a Battle Royale. They already admitted it. Once they dropped that, every single bad decision in the game made sense. The special "hero" like characters, the massive maps that are too big even for two teams of 64. The lack of Campaign. The awful map design for two factions fighting for control. The awful vehicle physics. The lack of a Scoreboard. How bafflingly bad Breaktrhough was designed (it was 99.9% impossible to win as an attacker). THe special Fortnite like skins they were trying to push at the start. Everything screams "This wasn't gonna be a BF at all"
This is just making Act Man's video of EA and DICE being so out of touch with their community all the more relevant.
@@christiananddanyell or specialists could have been devided INTO classes...or some kind of special dudes you can get with earned points etc....dont know
When they said " more immersion, and fixing specialist" I for some reason had hope. Then they said "add more dirt" and I literally got hot in the face.
And 8 months after this failure this is it? I would have felt better if they got rid of specialists, and just fixed performance. Just those 2 things would be mountain's better than EVERYTHING they have shown. It would bring more playability and immersion which is something bf 2042 lacks.
I can't believe this... I really cant.
pathetic indeed. so called "commited" yet releasing content in such a snail base.....fixing ONE old map at a season per season basis is slap in face...wake tf up DICE, game is dead already as it is. Live service what a joke.....drought roll out of content.
@@NateT092 The live service has the ability to bring in new game-modes every two days, and delete your favorite ones.
Ain't that great?
I was a huge BF fan and I’m happy the sales for this game failed so hard. I hope karma catches up with the people responsible for this abomination and kicks them in the ass.
Feels bad
Players: "We want the classes back, the maps suck, and the vehicle balance is out of fucking control."
Devs: "Don't worry, we're making the character animations slightly better. Also, we added dirt and boxes."
They are being absurdly stubborn to say they are keeping specialists it's ridiculous and part of the reason no one plays
You have BRUTAL expectations.
Me:
*Sits in the background with margerita, not having bought bf2042 watching the chaos ensue.*
😂
@@davecrupel2817 Same.
@@Countless_Relics Oh, my bad. I expected the game to be good but I guess that's too much nowadays!
If specialists are still there, they’re not getting their playerbase back. Period.
And specialists and map designs were only 2 problems out of 100
If people wanted specialists, they'd go play Fortnite or Overwatch. Battlefield should look to the base they have rather than try and be a shite copy of an oversaturated market.
Fundamentally it’s not interesting to us (or at least me). Made some bad creative decisions that are now WAY to baked into the game
they need to go back to BF1 and see why this was the last good BF
@@Karifi pretentious romanticized view of horrific warfare. Check.
Shit bitesize campaign. Check.
Social justice agenda that creeps into madness by BFV. Check.
Dogshit maps. Check.
Shit weapons and call of duty SMG spam. Check.
Last good BF was BF4
The game is 95% off on Amazon right now for PS5. Might boost players a bit mine is arriving today.
"They're (Specialists) are a KEY part of 2042 but we need to get it right". This quote will probably go down in Battlefield history as the final nail in the coffin of what is left of this franchise.
Finally someone see what is happening with this game.
There are new Leaders Managers who wanted to change/destroy BF style game to CoD. And after 12years they finally did it.
This is happening now With World of Warcraft too
New generation of evil people Devs Managers Leftists activist Corporate looser are taking over our beloved franchises. They are Dead
$5 bucks says he can't explain why they are "key" other than microtransactions
I can't believe one of the huge things that killed the game and lost them all this potential money is something they insist on keeping
@@stewybstewy they could make 5 classes and make the existing gadgets part of each class and sell Medic or assault skins. It makes no sense why they want to die on this hill
@@malazan6004 It would probably still take them too long to implement. They did make the game with the specialists in mind so they literally can't go back to classes or they'll have another few months-delay.
Community manager: "Let's start by talking about the main focus areas that we've identified and the types of things we're looking to improve"
Me: "EVERYTHING!!!!"
Since the MOTHAFUCKIN beta lmao
Lmfao exactly they smoking straight crack up in that studio. Idk what tf game they been playing
the dev team: not gonna change really anything just make it easier for snipers and vehicles.
@Marturion's gaming holly fuck right. Refund people half they money at least and just drop this bullshit gimmick. Fucking shit I’d take hardline over 2042 anyday lmfao. Shit I can still go back n play hardline n have a fun exciting time. 2 matches of 2042 . Is a headache in itself not too mention impossible
Specialists staying is an absolute no for me ever returning.
aight see ya
@@brianharrington7663 u like specialist?
@@graysonbeck5597 no but I think people irrationally hate them. Whether you like it or not the game is built around specialists so it’s not as simple as “rEmOvE sPeCiALiStS”.
@@brianharrington7663 the game is built around specialists, and thats why people hate the game. The game is flawed in every way compared to the old games.
Everyone says, you think these dumbass devs at DICE would realize how gamebreaking the specialists.
Holy shit, that "improving the soldier animations" part is crazy. Its not hard to create that sort of "turns the gun until they get into an uncomfortable position" thing; standard Third Person Shooter tutorials on youtube will tell you how to do that in Unity 3d and Unreal Engine (Maybe Gadot, too, but I don't use it so I don't know). They're straight up showing you shit that YOU can program yourself in free engines, and pretending they're good updates.
Exactly, whats even more embarrassing is that this is an update for a 7 month old game when these animations should be a launch feature... I cannot believe gaming has reached a point where core fundamental animations like character movements are being patched in
We all now that bf5 wasn't the best battlefield, but we can all agree that it had enough ui options, great movement, graphics and more. It was definitly best battlefield if we look at quality of life and graphic improvements. Battlefield 2042 went back to battlefield 3, or no bf3 had more options and more realistic movement. Its like all the devs forgot what they did in the previous games.
@@Realgigclin it shouldn't even be a feature, it should be a basic standard
@@hoen2009 BF5 didnt even launch with all of its campaign or a likeable map pool just goes to show the warning signs that were to come.
Not only animation, but also the map design and 128 players integration...
They are basically announcing they have set the time period, and now they are starting to work on the game mechanics / map design !
How is that possible to annouce through a dev interview that the game is not even ready for the beta phase ? 😂
No, you're right AngryJoe. Hold these people ACCOUNTABLE. We have value as a customer, and we can choose when they get their money. It's time to normalize not enabling/supporting these POS money grubbers, and mock and shame the people who continue to feed their addictions to these corporate scam artists.
This deserves more likes!
Anyone who’s been playing 2042 is the reason games are releasing this way. Their account names should be recorded so they can forever be known as the pathetic EA simps they are.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 It's an addiction. "Man I really need that next Battlefield!" *knowing full well it's going to be a major let-down.* Consumers in 2022 need to wake up and vote with their wallets. It's how the market works, and not rocket science.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 Just calling them "EA simps" isn't enough imo, we should BAN them from buying and playing EA games entirely.
I play 2042 cuz I still find the game fun in some area’s, I don’t agree with the direction of the game and all that, but personally kinda enjoy playing it, but I agree it should of came out better.
Joe is absolutely right, these guys at dice are just trying to smooth talk their customer base into giving them a pass for this s***.
Seems to me they working on it.
@@lolicongang.4974 they are, but don't fall for this..they aren't fixing the game, they never finished it.
It's no coincidence that they made this video a few weeks before the battlepass and skin store launches.
@@lolicongang.4974 They are. it's their fault that it's broken, but at least they are fixing it. I just hope they bring back classes or something very close, bring back the server browser which still isn't here somehow and have more maps for future Seasons. BFV updates were scarce for the first 8 or so months i believe so Season 2 could have more than 1 map and if it doesn't, i don't see people coming back to this game so... that's up to them.
@@DeadSpacedOut They wont bring back classes, for the next game, maybe, but Dice is way too adamant on keeping specialists in this game. I'm pretty sure they could face legal repercussions because they promised more specialists, which is why they are adamant of not removing them. Probably the best possible outcome is for this game to die faster so they can work on the next game sooner rather than later.
“We’re not moving away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042..”
Let me start with the fact that I have no experience in business. However, I have plenty of experience as a consumer. And I am having such a difficult time wrapping my head around why they just won’t say “sorry, we screwed up, we will work in classes.” If they even kept specialist perks in the game but just gave the squad leader a specialist or something dumb like that idk I wouldn’t even care, but my point is, if NOBODY likes your game because of this thing you refuse to acknowledge, NOBODY IS GOING TO LIKE THE GAME
Same story goes with bfv with dice key feature no one asked for
Attrition system * 1 year later dice finally removes it...
Sad thing is specialist are forever...
Hey that's great idea, too bad dice are out of touch
Because getting rid of it makes it easy for people tot het a refund as they change the core of the game they promised, even tho people want them to
Because Call of Duty's monetization is the same. Because Apex Legend's monetization is the same. Because Rainbow 6 Siege's monetization is the same.
There's nothing to wrap your head around. This game was clearly a market trend chase in a pathetic attempt to cash in on the success of their competitors instead of sticking to their formula that has worked countless times before. Big Wig corporate heads clamoring, "wElL cAlL oF dUtY dId ThIs AnD mAdE lOaDs Of MoNeY"
They've got some balls to reveal their faces, think I'd have done this with a paper bag over my head.
Lmao
Same, especially with the people who know how to swat. People are crazy nowadays
its started this year 2022. I see pattern where devs Sit at table and talk Sht in their own bubble!
I see that lot of AAA studios are doing this now.
Its pathetic
Bruh 😂😂😂😂
Isn’t that the Respawn guy who has only just been put in charge after the original dude left him a massive pile of shit
We have grown to a culture now that celebrates mediocrity and praises broken products that get fixed when they never should of been broken in the first place. Destroying the pride and standards that we once had.
Not really, this game failed for a reason
@@devonwhite9398 because it was lazily made from a billion dollar company to cash in and milk players
I fell pray to the marketing and pre ordered, I’ve learnt my lesson. I do not want to condone this poor development mindset, it’s sad to see where not only dice are going but where gaming is going as a whole
True, being able to update a game after launch really is a double-edged sword. Sure, games can have minor bugs fixed afterwards BUT it has created the "release broken fix later" mindset. Combine that with extra monetization like lootboxes, battle pass and skins on top of a road map full of lies and empty promises...🤑 I really don't get why people still pre-order/buy day one. I stopped buying games right away as soon as complete and GOTY editions started showing up. FOMO is also a common tactic used to lure players in but that does not affect me personally. I only play single player or local splitscreen. If anyone is on the fence of "should i pre-order or not" think about this: is it better to buy a new game for 70$ or buy it later when bugs are mostly fixed, prices have dropped, and any DLC is included in the purchase. For single player games it is a no-brainer, but with the "live service" it's always a gamble. After all, servers can get shut down at anytime.
The results of the Capitalism x Speculation collab
I tried coming back to this game, and one of the biggest problems I had, was how fast everyone moves! It seems like there's no room for mid range fighting, and the best strategy as infantry is the either snipe, or hop around the map with an SMG, like its CoD.
We've had that since BF1. Everyone talks about how great that game is but it really plays like CoD. BF3 maybe 4 was the last actual BF game
I partially agree. BF1 is definitely built for a more rush heavy play style than previous games. But the raw movement speed is fairly slow. I remember at the time, some people complaining about it feeling slow compared to other shooters of the time. And with BF1 it still felt like there were battle lines. I think part of that is the movement speed and more grounded movement options, as well as the fact BF1 still Had spotting as a default for everyone.
I could still play that game at a mid range, and just feel like an infantryman. Playing Rush on 2042 felt incredibly disorganized, with people in wing suits, and grappling hooks, and body armor, zipping around all over the place. And even worse, everyone looks the same!
Perhaps some of those things have been improved in the new update? I haven't tried it yet.
"Sir our map design is terrible, people are demanding changes"
"Bring in the boxes"
"Sir?"
"BOXES SON WE NEED MORE BOXES"
*gets flashbacks of DoW1
So you have to be careful what you ask for
Battlebox 2042
Boxes and sandbags... we need MORE BOXES AND SANDBAGS DAMNIT!
@@Ihavethetouch METAL BOXES
Just hearing Other Joe saying ‘unfortunately’ is like someone who knows the response to a trick question.
I personally hate that map with all the shipping containers so I’m really excited to see they’re adding 16x the shipping containers. 😩
No amount of "redesigns" and rebalancing will convince me to pick this game up. The game, and by extension the developers, had their chance and they blew it.
Blew it hard.. they failed us this time..
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S there are plenty of developers that are on board with this stuff too dude. It's not always the upper people.
If you take business people away you get an industry full of Kojimas that never release games. It's a balancing act rhat requires both sides.
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S no the developers are involved here too. Normally I don’t think developers deserve shit, but here, it’s very clear the developers give none themselves. They deserve the backlash they’re receiving
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S TBH I think the issue is that after years of low pay, crunch, and general misstatement, all the actual talented developers have left Dice. Actually given how many games release terrible, it feels like this is the case for most AAA studios.
@@ninjafrog6966 The developers just do what they are told. AAA studios have very talented programmers/artists/game designers... usually when there's fuck ups it's because of management and/or executives.
Battlefield 2042 probably got messed up because the game started development as a Battle Royale and they switched direction midway. Hence the specialists and weird map designs and lackluster destruction. That's not the developers fault.
I love how they have posters from BF1 and BF4 in the background which were both of enormously more quality and success than BF2042
17:49 “like fuckin 2” referring to the guns they said were adding
Holy fucking shit he actually predicted it.
Nothing makes or breaks a company like 'word of mouth'
Tell every gamer you know not to buy another product from these guys. They have no problem lying and stealing your money...make sure they feel the consequences of that. Clearly they heard our complaints, reviewed them...and decided to continue on with the cash-grab-COD-microtransaction-model bullshit.
They know it is a failure so they are going to try to milk as much as possible before they finally abandon it. I think they are contractually obligated to do at least 1 season, after that it’s probably lights out.
problem is, Joe has a mouth which reaches a lot of people. and the words that come out of it keep hyping up all the new dank AAA games based on fake trailers.
“We’re not walking away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042.”
Yeah, a key part for your cash cow with micro transactions. That’s the only reason why specialists are in BF2042. F this game.
I like it how they're not waling away from specialists, don't they realized the fans have all walked away from specialists? Gosh. Dice should just stfu at this point and take the L, and never make another game again.
F
my favorite line is when he says "we need to make sure we get it right and we can deliver to our players what they deserve" that's something you're allowed to say before the game launches, after the game launches it should be "we need to make sure we clean the bed after we shat in it"
From this update video it's clear that whoever the top management at DICE or EA is are the kinds of people who can't tolerate hearing bad news, are surrounded by yes men, and *HAVE* to be right about everything. Even when it causes their multimillion dollar to produce video game to flop. It doesn't matter how much they frame their BS as "being positive", saying stuff like this says more about your company than a broken & poor product ever could. No wonder there is rampant abuse at major video game studios when there are people like this in charge. Honestly the AAA video game industry is due for a crash and things like "Seasons" for video games are stupid, have always been stupid, and will continue to be stupid. I'm not paying for updates or other additional content when I pay top dollar for your product. AAA games have truly become all the worst parts of Cable TV, which is why I avoid them.
The heart of most corporate dysfunction.
Holy Sht what a great explanation!
I cant stand this new Sit Down at table and talk in our bubble Turdfest. Its pathetic...
"to improve the readability of body motions in 3rd person, we took animations from the previous games and applied them to our character models in 2042 so they don't look like they were done by amateurs anymore"
I was about to say. Didn't BF4 have these? And then 1 and V iterated on it?
@@0uttaS1TE BF3 already had it haha
This is so EA levels of "fixing."
We're active in the community and we've read and appreciate your comments. The players said what they've wanted, and we heard you. That being said, we're confident in our own research that we've identified the areas that needed improvement and we could address."
Then they go on and "fix" things that nobody is talking about. Why? Because they are doing the laziest things they can do. "Quick, what can we spruce up that won't take us much time and then market it as major upgrades so we can tell the dupes we did something."
It is the same thing they do with Madden games.
“You don’t like it because your confused”
I’m sorry joe but he is right. We are confused, confused as to why they ever though this idea would bear fruit.
I can’t believe that Dice released Battlefield One to near universal acclaim and then just fucking forgot how to make video games lmao
When Star Wars Battlefront 2 came out, I thought I would NEVER buy it. But when I heard that the game is drastically getting better, and I got it for free at Epic Games. It's now one of the best games for Star Wars fans, including myself. I thought Dice learned something from this... Nope.
The lack of variety with the new props around the map speaks volumes as well. Seriously it looks like someone went into the world editor one afternoon and just spammed 4 assets everywhere. The whole map looks under construction. 😂
There is nothing that can save this game at this point,nothing.
Pains me to say that,I love battlefield as a franchise.
Nonsense
@@gaulishrealist BF4 literally has more players at this point. Are you a BF fanboy in denial? Or just dense? The game is beyond saving.
Take a dose of copium and come back to reality friend. I love battlefield,but this one was so bad the franchises reputation is severely tarnished.
Good,you should be happy then,it has to crash and burn...well it’s already burning,but yeah it has to fail so those completely out of touch developers will never again have any say in anything.
@@-------------764 comparing a survival open world game to a broken fps game, and the fact that DICE has always been trash and transparent to the community
@@-------------764 How easily you forget all the titles EA left to rot. Remember Anthem? Need For Speed? Titanfall? Command and Conquer? Simcity? Metal Of Honor? The list goes on.
"Oh but No Mans Sky!" Hello Games made that and turned it around, not EA. You can't defend one company because an entirely different one did something good.
This game should have been pulled from the store like Cyberpunk and refunds should have been issued
yeah like when the game broke the 5k players online they should have pulled the plug, also not going to fix the game just forget about it and make the next year game lol
Let’s play cyberpunk instead
This was far worse than Cyberpunk lol. This launch was Anthem levels of pathetic
Ah what a "love letter"! It's more hilarious than Kotaku tried to diss Xbox Game Pass "burnouts" so bad! 🤣
Well, the reason it didn't happen is because they didn't offer refunds like CDPR did.
- Community Manager: "We want to give the players what they deserve."
Translation: 🖕🏼
I have never played Battlefield before, it's not really my kinda thing, but ever since that rant video I've been following this game closely just to see where it goes
It's pretty sad to scroll down and read the comments, so many people disappointed. It feels terrible to have a favorite franchise drop the ball this hard.
Sorry this happened, guys.
BC2 and BF3 were incredible games. I'm not even a big fps player, but those 2 had me absolutely obsessed. So sad to see how Battlefield has died.
Fall Out fans: First time?
Outlast Fans: First time?
Last of Us Fans: First time?
Go play BF4 and you will be absolutely blown away by the quality.
Battlefield 1 still holds a special place for me. It's amazing
@@troypowers750 Ouch the first thing I thought about when reading this was fallout. Weve seen too many great franchises lose their identity and it sucks.
There's no way they would actually try to salvage this. They should just make Battlefield Portal into a full game with all maps from Battlefield 3-5 and all of the gear etc. and call it a day. I do not trust Dice with trying out any new ideas at this point.
Actually a good idea, ngl.
I agree, Portal is the best thing about this whole thing. Might actually get some amazing mods and maps through that if they open it up. The main game is...well...TECHNICALLY a game.
Literally this.
Just take Battlefield 3, 4, 1 and V and cram them into Portal mode, re-release it for $20-$30, rebrand it as Battlefield Portal and call it a day
Why the fuck you going to skimp out 1942? What the fuck is wrong with you! To this day I still say that 1942 is the better Battlefield out of all of them in the whole series because unlike the literal majority of the games that either give you reserve ammo for your BS camping with snipers or removing aspects of war like Battlefield 1943 that removed naval warfare entirely, the series is literally called BATTLEFIELD, the lines aren't just on fucking land. 1942 had the best class system where all of the classes were balanced AROUND the kits they had, Snipers were extremely deadly as only two body shots were needed to drop someone, however that was balanced by giving them only FIFTEEN BULLETS, you were actually encouraged to go for headshots because of your limited ammo supply because bodyshotting someone was considered a waste of ammo and the entire enemy team would fear you if you knew you were a good shot with the class.
Yeah,just re-release old games in chunks,with micro transactions,my god people,you get what you deserve I guess.
Community: We don't like goofy APEX Legends Fortnite Heroes who do TikTok dances
DICE: We added beards, dirt, and made the TikTok dances less flashy
I totally agree with Joe. This should have been done before launch. If we want to be heard everyone needs to keep voicing their disappointment and issues they have with this game. It's because of people like Joe, that have a large following, that make these people listen. We need to stand up and say NO to being force fed features "Specialists" we don't want and who's sole purpose is to make money for share holders. EA is garbage!
Don’t buy the game. That’s the only thing these shit companies understand. The devs at Dice and WORLD LEADING EXPERTS and know EXACTLY how to make the game we want. They’re purposefully being lazy.
You can do this by simply not playing the game. At the time of this comment there's 1200 players on steam literally delusional players, maybe if that number reaches 0 they would actually think twice the next time before releasing a game like this lol.
All the specialists look like they're contractually obligated to appear in the game
Have you looked at Blizzard's "diversity chart"?
I always knew there had to be a sort of checklist when game companies create those cringy characters, but now I'm sure the same happened with BF 2042 and its cringy "specialists".
There is a chart. It's called diversity
“Grittier” specialists DIDNT MEAN ADD DIRT! We wanted “ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN” removed from the game
With these level updates alone, it just makes it even more clear this game needed another year or two.
3 and some actual creativity
@@shanebovell6733 and not hating the BF players
@@r.daneel.90 With that "love letter", just say that this BF is dead lol
Most Battlefield games are rough at launch, but an amazing experience a year after launch…at this rate, Battlefield 2042 will be good in about 5 or 6 years lol
@@r.daneel.90 they seem to really hate their fan base for some reason
I'm sick and tired of people making excuses for million dollar corperations. Older gamers know the evolution & devolution of gaming. We know what should be expected while newer gamers don't know what they're loosing out on. They think it's normal to buy passes and all this other crap sold separately when it used to be in games by default. We are literally living in the best age of gaming with the WORST the gaming industry has ever been. I would argue that we are living in the golden age of gaming possibilities hindered by corperate greed. We can practically make any game anyone can think of but instead it's held back by money making game mechanics, unfinished games, ripped content sold as DLC and forced live service amongst other trends. 🤦
I can't believe EA tried to say single player games are a thing of the past that nobody wants. You realize how awesome it is to buy a game like Blazing Chrome and feel like you bought a brand new SNES game in modern day? Every game and style has it's place and gaming companies don't understand that anymore. Otherwise we would have the Paper Mario A thousand year door 2 already. Not every game has to fit the newest money making model or else they aren't games, they're gambling machines.
Games used to be a work of art. Now they're a work of misery.
I know your frustration. I've come across some of the most asinine rationale for these greedy and exploitative business practices. Sometimes, they even admit to getting ripped of, but make some BS excuse for why it's a good thing. One guy bought the day one DLC for V Rising (which came out in Early Access) and basically said that he regretted getting the DLC because it was way over priced but was okay with the idea that he was supporting the devs. More or less saying, "They charged too much and ripped me off, I regret letting myself be ripped off, but I support the devs ripping me off." Besides the issue of day one DLC existing for early access games being BS to begin with (for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who knows what early access is), it's sad to see people just accept that they are going to get screwed and just live like that's how it's supposed to be. This is all this generation knows, and even if we preach about a time when things were more fair for us, and how we should demand that we get treated more fairly, they defend the current practices and gleefully get ripped off. And so game companies keep pushing the line that gamers today keep letting them get away with. Partly through ignorance, and partly through compulsive behaviors and just a lack of self control (gotta get that new shiny!). Frustrating to see the gaming industry that I grew up with, and grew up with me, has turned into.
This is what happens when record labels make music instead of actual musicians
"Nah youre a boomer the future is now old man"
Said everyone that talks video games to me that never played an actual video game until 2022
I hope the game industry will evolve like the music industry, now artists can be so independent and release the music they like and how they like when they like because they dont need to be signed by a big corporation one day maybe videogames studios will reach that kind of independency
13:09 That small interaction, priceless.
EA: "we're not abandoning specialists.."
Battlefield Players: OK we will abandon your game, and probably the next one.
Step 1. Just leave it ded.
Step 2. Hire a seasoned creative director and give him full control.
Step 3. Give him time and money to develop the next game and don't meddle.
And now that you've got a focused team lead by a creative genius make sure he doesn't speak in public or bring his porn to restaurants... or harass anyone.
And step 4 is: anyone who buys the next game is a moron
I think the very first step is firing the CEO, but we alla know that will not happen.
Step 1. Just leave it dead
Step 2. Go back to battlefront 2 and finish the game
I just want the bad company games and the people that made those two back
“We want to give the players the experience they deserve” EA and Dice have made it very clear how they view battlefield customers.
I’ll translate for EA and DICE here:
“PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEEASE COME BACK TO OUR GAME! WE NEED MONEY!”
This game might finally deliver the Battlefield we deserve, in the year 2042.
Ha ha 😆
This game will abandon after the fourth season is out or a bit later
"It's an early build, CHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Remember those kiddos???
@@gepsal209 Angel: That was something, right? 😀
Honestly they would be better making a BC2 and BF3/4 Remaster.
@@Zhello79 I wouldn’t want them to touch BF3 after this shit show they’d find a way to fuck it up.
"We heard your feedback, our specialists no longer shave & shower"
Nothing they listed sounds like an improvement to the core gameplay pitfalls they purposefully placed in the game. Not coming back for this and not going with them where they go in the future. RIP Battlefield
If the next battlefield has specialists im not buying.
Yeah i regret buying this on launch
@@johnshepard8556 same game is trash
@@johnshepard8556 not only that but spending over 100 dollars on this dumpster fire.
“We’re not moving away from specialists, they’re a key part of 2042..”
Cool, I'm still not buying the game then. If they're this stubborn about keeping them, ignoring everyone suggestintg to remove them or at least bring back classes. Then they are truly disconnected from their community.
Should have scrapped it long ago and started a fresh.
Community manager roles must be the hardest job when its for a failing project.
The failing project called 'EA'?
@@shivavision8223 yup!
@@Dfjs427 isnt that what bf 2042 was tho?
He fucking sucks at his job anyway, always has, never did much and now straight up does nothing except announce updates now and then.
@@JayTraversJT that's his point its sad being a developer that comes to hate their own project
Is it just me or would this go over better if this wasn't so scripted? It sounds SO perfect you can smell the crap a mile away. Wouldn't it be WAY better and WAY more trusting if they brought in people like Angry Joe to a taped meeting and explain, unscripted, that yeah, we messed up, we're sorry. But here's a road map. I would be like "ya. Real talk. I'll consider going back".
Companies need to understand that accountability is what leads to people coming back to you and giving you another chance.
Dice is not a nice company and they have not been for many years now, they have no respect for their consumers but boy do they want their money
everything corporations touch becomes sanitized and devoid of any sincerity
@@nikolozgilles sometimes I stop and think about the games I played when I was growing up. When there wasn't any patches or hotfixes. When I buyed a game I got a complete game A to Z, it was tested to death, and the company thanked you for your purchase. Gone are those days until these companies, or suits or money people or WHOEVER, leave the developers alone and let then do what they need to do. I'm legit angry now.
@@criticalhittraining9343 those days are long gone my friend...
Joe should do a "bullshit translator" for every triple A video like this, it's beautiful!
I don't know about these gaming companies, it's hard for them to admit when they're wrong.
Yea bro gaming is finished
BF 2042 is full of bad ideas from a stupid drawing board that was somehow approved
@@TeoZMuff313 no it’s not, it’s shifting. Indie games are exploding
You can't admit wrongdoing when stockholders are involved. All news must be good news.
@@TeoZMuff313 there are plenty of great games releasing recently and plenty of great games that already exist
Nah I’m good. They clearly took assets from previous titles and they want a pat on the back for “listening to players”? We shouldn’t reward this kind of consumer abuse especially when it’s EA.
It really seems like they just said “eh, a few boxes here, some sandbags there and a container over there” and called it a day. Doesn’t seem like they put much effort into the map changes, and at this point I’ve come to expect that lol.
Legit thought that was Robert Downey Jr from Tropic thunder for a sec
Season 1: Map tweaks
Season 2: Beards for specialists
Season 3: Scratches on tanks
Season 4: Club Penguin collaboration
Live service!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 club penguin
What the devs are saying is "We're finally addressing the issues the thousands of players told us about before they all uninstalled BF2042 and vowed to never buy another BF, EA game".
It's their THIRD fuck up: there was Battlefront 2, BFV and now 2042. I hope they won't touch battlefield series whatsoever.
@@suzuzusu if i’m being honest i really liked bfv.
@@alecproulx2969 me too, played it for hours with my friend when it came out for ps plus. I also loved playing BF1 with him whenever he would visit.
@@suzuzusu Atleast bf5 was pretty and immersive, this game look like it come from the first xbox and play like it too.
Atleast bf5 was pretty and immersive, this game look like it was made for the first xbox and it play like crap.
When he started talking about improving guns I thought oh maybe they'll make them work now, and when he said they like the attachment system and how it "makes every gun feel unique"I lost it. Do they even hear themselves? How can they believe the monumental amount of bullshit coming out of their own mouths??
The weapons in game were by far my biggest disappointment. Going from BF4's millions of combinations and like 200 guns to 20 guns including 1 semi automatic pistol, 4 assualt rifles and a handful of other guns was such a fucking joke. I am so glad I never paid for this pile of shit. What a joke this studio has become.
The worst part is that ea cut live support for other games (bf 2) to have all hands on deck for this game. But their update 6 months after launch is “we’re adding boxes!”. Nice EA, such a great decision. 😒
Edit: oh wow! They added dirt 🤣.
What’s hilarious is that most of the BF2 team as I understand it didn’t even come over. The big named people that made they game into what it is today all left.
No you're 100% right Joe they have little to no exuses for BF to be in this state.
so awesome to watch them take a beta to a future full release!
Sadly they are trying to say this is a full release!😂
I'm seriously sitting here, attempting to think of a part of 2042 that they did not screw up.
Seems to me they managed to f up everything from basic map design and FPS mechanics, all the way to literally everything new they attempted to add. Have these people ever made an FPS game before? Wtf?
128 player matches, specialists, and tornadoes were the main hype points of this game, before release.
Well, they just got rid of 128 player matches, specialists are almost universally hated among the fans, and everyone was over the tornadoes before the beta was over.
This game can't fail hard enough to satisfy my fan-rage, although they seem to be trying as hard as they possibly can.
So their "new" soldier animations are what they were in BF3, BF4, BF1, and BF5. Good work guys...
19:18 - that was in Battlefield 3
They're not even trying...
I will never play a Battlefield game with "specialists." They've just confirmed I shouldn't waste any money on this laughable product.
When they talked about the Map improvements and Movement changes I couldn't help but laugh. It feels like these were solved problems, it just doesn't make any sense to me like
"OH yeah, we forgot about putting stuff in our empty maps."
Also "We've fixed third person animations that shouldn't have been that stiff to begin with."
Also "we're a multi billion dollar company btw."
Nah, im totally going to buy it now that the model can lean and run... its what's been missing in all other games . :) ;)
+it looks exactly like the previous games/battlefront.
they didnt exactly forgot,im sure all that clutter shafts performance even more,notice how he didnt mention any big improvements on that field....
Dice isn't disconnected, they just ignore the community.
Community: we want classes not specialists
Publishers:.we hear you so we'll add dirt on specialists
Everyone: 🤦♂️😑😤 NOOO!
But if they actually removed specialists, they'll get sued
you know whats more funny is that they never speak into the camera but only into their colleagues eyes. Using 'us' and 'we' as if the 2 other robots reading off a script are the community.
I’ve been a battlefield fan my whole life. Probably my favorite shooter series of all time. This is the first one I did not buy but I heavily looked into it (hence why I didn’t buy it) so I’m aware of the problems it has. Speaking for myself and my group of seven friends who all love Battlefield, we will not buy this game unless the specialist system is removed and replaced with the classic squad system. It hurts watching this and seeing that they are doubling down on specialists. Looks like no battlefield for me this generation.
Im sorry then but lol the amount of resources it would take to remove specialists would basically make it a brand new game. Tbh if this battlefield was good and it launced bug free and packed full of great content then i dont think specalists wouldn't be as hated as everyone makes em out to be. Tbh..
God bless you and your friends the community needs more people like that
@@gameexpert133 I disagree with you sir. I believe that the squad system and the limitations that each class has in the equipment load-out forces/encourages players to work together and communicate with each other. By removing a pillar of the battlefield experience I think that any game released by them without it will feel shallow and won’t sit well with the fan base.
I only wish me and my other 3 friends who were big fans of battlefield games had never bought this one for that premium price. Giving it to a company like this is sin. I have every battlefield games but I seriously doubt that I will reinstalled origin ever again.
@@DownhillPlague lol it alows for greater flexibility at some points like being a support who can throw armor and ammo and revive anyone is awesome ngl its thhe ultimate medic power fantasy
When the dev talks about Hazard Zone he straight up admits that they built their maps around that mode. That explains why all the maps feel like they're meant for extraction style squad shooters and don't work at all in the proper teambased battlefield modes.
And they're like 'We're binning the mode off lol'
OJ's completely deadpan "unfortunately" had me cracking up. He just sounded so dead inside.
As a lifelong WoW player as well as Battlefield, the mistakes DICE is making remind me sooo much of Blizzard.
"Trust us fans. We're right and you're wrong" for MULTIPLE GAMES until their franchise is on life support. Then they gotta come out of their precious ivory tower and finally communicate. Communication that WREAKS of PR.
We are listening to your guys, so in the next Expansion farm AP again to unlock this shitty borrowed power :)
Reeks*
The 4 Seasons of content *MUST BE FULFILLED* because it was promised, advertised, *AND SOLD* in the Ultimate Edition.
Developers: “What if we smeared ‘shit’ onto our specialists?”
It looks like they’ve been coordinating a funeral… for the past six months.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Legendary comment
not removing specialist no buy.
I would also settle for some hybrid where the specialist are sectioned out into classes that restrict guns and/or gadgets
Take those woke fkkkers off and give is real soldiers like bf4 and bf1
The new specialist looks like the fucking nathan drake iranian knockoff 😂😂😂
I agree it doesn't really seem like the maps are "reimagined" to me it looks like these versions of the maps are actually the complete versions of them and they released the game with the earliest builds they had of them
A good way to make it look like they're making changes 😂
Remember they were ahead of schedule, it's possible
And they can be yours in the upcoming map update pack, just $29.95. Forget micro transactions we are going macro.
Adding hundreds of extra assets to the maps wont help PC performance issues at all
The fact that they're like "No you guys don't understand this is all so cool! Just got to make specialists more dirty!" I find infuriating. Not only did they come out dead on arrival but they can't even admit it.
"Are you in loser denial or something??" - Billy Madison
Personally, I applaud you for pointing out the issues that should have been fixed before launch of this game. I beta tested this game, and we told them about many of these issues and it basically fell on deaf ears. I am so disappointed in this game and this is my favorite shooter series. I really hope that as they are working on the next Battlefield (which they mostly are right now) I really hope that they actually listen to the players this time, and not just continue to go with what clearly doesn't work.
Hazard zone and specialists being a straight up FAILURE should tell them to stop trying to please audiences that don't even care about their game while also basically shutting out the hardcore fans of the franchise.
This is what happens when you follow trends instead of building on what already works. I really hope this whole ordeal has been a learning lesson for them. I'm sadly im doubtful
this is the last battelfield i will ever buy so well done ea you did it *sarcastic claps*
stopped buying after bf1
@@TheBanjoShowOfficial I stopped after Hardline
Damn I feel bad for you but I got burned by dying light and did not expect to be blessed by Elden Ring in these dark times despite it's bullshit late game boss's lol
@@trippybruh1592 the only BS boss is Malenia imo. That's the only one i honestly don't think I could solo
It's your fault this game is garbage. You literally told EA you are okay with this garbage.
i love how the "retuned animations" are a guy LITERALLY RUNNING ON ICE
2042 is the most embarrassing release in the history of battlefield. The way they are explaining things is very arrogant. They haven't earned that. They need to abandon this garbage and work on a new game. The maps have zero personality. This game was designed from the ground up to sell skins. That is what they put their resources into. Nobody wants to dress up their toon if the game sucks. They can't admit that specialists don't work. I bet that we will see specialists in the next battlefield game. They've invested in an entire future of cosmetics they want to sell. They're going to try and sell them.
It's absolutely stunning, the disconnect and the disrespect.
They honestly seem more focused on producing a tech demo, with little regard for gameplay.
One new map. I repeat One new map. 6 months.
1.5 (remakes)
@@jeffreysantiago2353 not even funny, wish i could laugh at this.
That player turning thing at 19:20 was something we had even back in Halo CE. How did 2042 not have that? Lmao!
You are right actually