Heyo like the video and i want to say at 8:45, you should only consider something a nitpick if whatever your critiquing about isn't consistently found. If for example the only time they used a stock image or png of something, was the scene with the bread, I'd consider it a nit pick if you fixate on it. Nit picks are mostly just critques built off isolated flaws that don't happen very often.
@@trumann5975 i wouldn't say you were hyperbolic. A lot of reviewers say some of their opinions might be nit picks. Not sure if it mayhaps be nerves, can't fathom whats in others noggins. This wasn't to point out a flaw, just to say if your honest and see flaws consistently then be confident about your assessment. Opinion based content is opinion base and if you make a mistake you can always acknowledge it and move on.
The guardian vows were such a missed opportunity. The assignment effectively boiled down to, “Write down your motivation for being here and shout it into this hole so that the audience can hear it”. This could have been an efficient, non-contrived way to get us invested in the entire main cast in a single episode. Yet the show takes this genius premise and does nothing with it. Not only do we never see anyone working on their vows, but when we finally hear them, they turn out to be vaguely heroic buzzwords that tell us nothing about who these girls are.
Very true, if the first episode focused on our soon to be guardians and established their motivation on why they wanted to become guardians it would've been way better than the 2 episodes combined.
Not to mention they were appearantly *wrong* and they all have to follow the same vows but in different DnD classes (warrior, mage, etc.). The show wasted a few good oportunities to be honest...
I absolutely cannot STAND Rosemary! It's like the writers took all the worst aspects of shonen protagonists and the "genki girl" archetype, Frankenstein'd them together and produced an immature, obnoxious, shallowly written abomination who shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects, let alone be trusted with a sword 😑
@@Solanin0803 Sage is horrible. She's constantly saying and doing awful things, but the writers lack the self-awareness needed to address it, so she's written to be constantly in the right no matter how wrong she is.
You think Rosemary is bad!? The moment those three harpies of headmistress started talking I began to wonder: "If I kill the youngest one, will the other two disappear?"
and no ideological diversity. there are no cultists with crazy ideas but who try to serve the community for their own reasons while decrying the "degeneracy" of the main population. there are no cultural conflicts between groups, even though there are literally different species at this school. there is a demon who is a teacher. why aren't there religious characters pointing out how fucked it is to have a demon teach ethics? why is a human and an elf dating just normal? it's a perfect opportunity to see some conflict! "oh, she's just messing around in her youth, when the human dies she'll get a *real* partner". this would actually be a perfect opportunity to go all "are they talking about the interspecies relationship? or that she is the gay?" because of all the double entendres about her being young and it being a phase you can throw out! but no. every one is the same, west coast way of thinking. even the "closed minded" characters are only how the writers imagine those characters must be.
While I ascribe that diversity doesn't always mean everyone has to be of a different race or be disabled, I agree that to the typical layman that is an obvious check in the box at a surface glance for something called "diverse". Seriously, though, we should stop saying that only different races and disabilities is the only true diversity.
"I vow to stay curious and engage, to look at the world with a questioning eyes" BRUH they could've done "to look at the world with a questioning gaze" could've made the vow rhyme tbh
They could've done something with Rose's Mom being some legendary warrior and play up the nepotism angle. Rosemary would only be there because her of mother, but she's lacking in any real talent and has to work and prove herself. An interesting conflict is that Sage wouldn't have a legendary family, but is extremely talented and eventually feels that Rosemary, being behind everyone else, is holding her back. Give these characters conflict and moments to tear each other down and build each other back up. There's something here, but everything isn't utilized properly and needed someone to say "No, this doesn't work" and fix the script.
I wouldn't say predictable stories are bad. what is bad is when the story is predictable in a boring way. soap operas are _extremely_ predictable, but they are predictable in emotionally tense and engaging ways. the problem with them is usually that the plot makes no logical sense, and cause and effect bend in crazy ways to get the most emotionally exploitative result rather than the characters and the plot working together it make an emotionally and mentally engaging story. high guardian herb has a completely different problem. the characters are card board cutouts who the writers refuse to have anything bad happen too, the plot is stale and boring and the setting makes no sense at all. this means that, because the characters can never have bad things happen to them, and we don't understand the setting, we cannot get emotional engagement, and because the plot is an afterthought and we can't understand its implications for the world we cannot have rational engagement. the issue isn't predictability. the issue is that regardless of if we know the result or not, we don't give a shit.
Hearing Sage's take on guy friendships has got me seething to no end. In my experience, the guy friends I hang out with can be loving and supporting like how a group of friends comprised of girls would. Hell, by Sage's stereotype logic, I could say the same thing about how toxic a friendship of girls can be, given their gossiping and Judgemental attitudes can breed room for negativity and pessimism, which isn't at all beautiful. To me, not only is this just agenda pushing but also shows that the writers don't understand that the way friendships work are not mutually exclusive to gender.
Pardon my cynicism but I don't think the crew behind this show are the types to have actual friends. They seem more like a ragtag group of insecure individuals who come together based off superficial connections and mutual loathing for others that remind them of their insecurities.
To play devil's advocate, Sage's grudge against guy friendships could have been fine if the show bother to make Sage learn over time that this isn't the way of thinking things. They could also make the audience understand Sage's bias, not agree, but understand her if they also showcase why Sage feels this way to begin with. But considering that the show is filled with awkward writing, it made this moment read the other way and didn't expand on it. Whether it's intentional or not, it's still a missed opportunity nonetheless.
It's no different than men saying se×ist shi† like "guys and girls can't be friends, it will always turn se×uaI." 🙄 This is what happens when you have zero self awareness.
The other terrible thing about her saying these things is its not there to show a character flaw for Sage, but to bring attention to Snapdragon's struggle with (I guess his own sexuality)
What frustrates me about this show is how much potential the magic system had. The whole old magic vs new magic debate? THAT'S HELLA INTERESTING! ELABORATE ON THAT! They only ever show Sage defending old magic while everyone else makes fun of her. Have other students/teachers defend old magic so that it's an actual debate! Actually explain how the two kinds of magic differ! Delve into the pros and cons of each type of magic and why people prefer one over the other! THE MAGIC SYSTEM COULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING!
This reminds me of something similar in Black Clover and the expansion of its magic system. Asta and a few others go to the Heart Kingdom, and it's here where we learn about mana arrays and more about the differences between Heart and Clover. Essentially, mana arrays draw power from nature itself to attack as opposed to magic only making them stronger and allowing for the use of commands to instruct spells. The key thing here is nature as Heart mages mostly have elements such as Fire, Lightning, Wind, etc whereas Clover has developed more unusual magic elements including Ash, Spatial, Time, and Transformation to name a few and those lose the ability to draw magic from nature itself. In this show old magic could draw from the idea of the old witch stereotype and rely more on natural sources with potions, chanting spells and so on whereas new magic could require more specialist training to develop and use but be require simpler commands/be instantaneous. So sorta the classic witch vs a more superhero like witch if that makes any sense.
That'd require it not to be just an allegory for conservative parents vs based progressive liberals. There are so many bits on this show that to naive eyes "could have been more", but they never WANTED to be more, they weren't created with the intent to be more.
Or rather than have students/teachers defend old magic, since the school is hard focused on new magic (even though some students just arbitrarily know old magic near the end), have some outside forces speak their mind on old magic and how it could be useful. Characters like the dwarves, the mermaids, or even the villains could have explained old magic or utilized it in a way that showcased its pros over new magic. Maybe new magic is quick and easy, but old magic has the potential to be much stronger. Or new magic is varied in use, while old magic does a few select spells, but it can do them better if charged for longer. Anything to distinguish the two other than "one is slow and bad, while the other is fast and good."
Make no mistake: That "for adults only" disclaimer exists purely for monetary reasons. If anyone thought this show was aimed at children, they wouldn't be allowed to roll personalized ads. Hooray for plausible deniability. XP
I had never seen the ethics class scene, but man, does it deliver the message horribly! If she's trying to teach the class that the presence of weapons shouldn't guide our actions, why is she using creatures that become hostile towards each other the moment they have weapons in hand? This could have been a good showcase of Rosemary's idea that both having blades will not result in the intended outcome, and either one of the creatures will be aggressive no matter if both have spikes or not, but will become docile if it's the only one without spikes. That way the lesson is that bad people exist and will want to harm you, unless they themselves can't get away with it, so you should always be ready to defend yourselves and others, but never be the one to believe just because you have the weapon or power to hurt others that you should choose that path. Seriously, if you remove the knives from two people that are trying to stab each other, they'll just try to punch each other to death instead. Her reverting the creatures back to normal only for their aggressiveness to vanish and hug immediately doesn't teach anything, it implies people become aggressive because they have weapons, not because of the choices they make. This on a show where children are SUPPOSED TO HAVE WEAPONS AND FIGHT!
It's infurating because I _know_ it's some kind of jab from *_That Side_* towards the Umbrella of Self-Reliance and Responsibility, in this case specifically the right of humans to bear weapons to defend themselves. The 2nd Amendment. *_That Side_* is vehemently against it in any way, shape or form, and while I wont get into the immense amount of garbage that mindset is, I will say it's infuriating that they seem to have this facade belief of "Oh well without weapons everyone would just be nice!" like *_BULLSHIT_* people have been wanting to kill each other before our civilization even knew what _an actual tool was._ A Rock is a weapon, a sharp stick is a weapon, _our hands_ are more than adequate to do significant damage to just about anything and I get real tired of these soft-bodied weak-minds trying to tell us -"You can be controlled easier- everyone will be good to each other if you just disarm them!"
Hmmm I mean it seemed to be aimed at not getting pigeon holed in your thinking. The nature of the creatures simplifies the point because while yes, transforming the defenseless one means that it has a fair fight, the same effort to be taken to transform the aggressive one. De-escalation is generally preferable IF it's feasible. So the point is decent but I'm also not entirely sure why that's coming from the ethics teacher. It also highlights a potential deficit in Rosemary's thinking but as was stated in the video they don't do anything with it. Plus without knowing what Guardians actually do at that point it's unclear how helpful it is
If you take another step back, having the creatures be hostile when pointy & snuggly when not is also, on a certain level, inherently racist...especially in a D&D-like world. There's also really nothing in Rosemary's comments that even vaguely suggests she's anything but bloodthirsty--that she's hoping to get to see blood get spilled--which is something an ethics teacher should be noting and being concerned about. I mean, do you really want to be known as the ethics teacher of somebody who gets themselves famous as, say, "That bigot who slaughtered a bunch of baby dragons for having the audacity to exist"?
Personally I am thankful that High Guardian Spice exists. It's become my creative playground for a fantasy story project. Though my forte is just visuals. Of course I have to watch the show itself to have my own insight. For my Episode 1 rewrite, the lesbian relatives should've shown Rose and Sage in the school already so it doesn't feel like filler. The incident with the locket could still happen. For my rewrite of the Guardian Vows episode I made the main cast find out that to become a guardian they have to choose their method of execution and dishonor when they fail and/or abandon their guardianship. It's to show their dedication to the line of duty. And Thyme is the first one to step forward to the well and speak her vow and method of execution. Meanwhile, Rose and Sage are shocked by the requirement of having a personal death warrant and they have to do it now or forfeit their qualifications for Guardianship. I mean, the writers want a mature audience didn't they? Make the candy-colored show have mature themes.
Thanks for reminding me about the "is sleep a food" line. Because I KNOW what they were trying to do there and they still managed to fuck it up. They wanted rose to say "X"? なにそれ? おいしいの? which is a common phrase to show someone being ignorant or too single-minded on food. Rose, being a one-track girl, could totally say the line and have it be believable. Especially after a "long" travel. But they fucked it up and left a sour taste in my mouth from the get-go. They could have even go with this "What is this 'Sleep' you speak of?" and it'd still work better.
The Japanese says, "X? Nani sore? Oishii no?" "X? What's that? Does it taste good?" Just looking out for fellow weebs who can't read Japanese and you didn't give any translation which would confuse anyone who can't read Japanese. In real-life Japanese, it's a common phrase people use to jokingly admit ignorance.
This show really mystifies me scriptwise. It was clearly written in english, but they wrote it like a first translationpass from japanese. Maybe the only exposure to anime anyone there has was with terrible fansubs and they thought that is just what it is supposed to be.
NOT GONNA LIE, But I thought that Rosemary never had a brother and that the person was just his dad’s gay boyfriend who he loved because they resembled Rosemary’s mother, Don’t laugh at me , I just expected this from the show 👌
Her dad told him "Hey, you kind of look like my wife" and the rest is history. It's weird, did her brother ever get brought up again after that one moment anyways?
@@Solanin0803 no, but I guess if they get an (unlikely) second season he would The opening when Rosemary is going out the door he kinda rolls his eyes, like he was low-key jealous/resentful that she got to go to HG, while he stayed home with thier dad I'd kinda like a short arc about how as the elder brother he had to take more responsibility after thier mom disappeared, and may have even been invited to HG but stayed home to take care of her and in usual Rosemary fashion she didn't even stop to consider that and just carried on how excited she was to go, and how he's glad she went but still feels bad for not getting to follow in mom's footsteps too But I know that's too advanced and complicated for the writers of this show...
I always thought the hate around this show was unwarrented or overrated... Now I've finally seen one of these reviews, and holy shit, I feel like a better writer already.
i really hated High Guardian Spice, it was an incredibly boring slog during the first half that turned half decent during the later half, with meh dialogue and eh? animation, it really had nothing going for it, but I'm starting to appreciate not the show, but what its leaving behind, a huge influx of videos that teach everyone what not to do when writing.
Even if there can't be conflict in every episode, there at least needs to be conflict in the beginning episodes of a series. The last half of the series gives me a lot of Tokyo Mew Mew dejavu but somehow makes it worse.
Something I should've commented on before - Rosemary has yet to prove that she belongs in this academy. Say what you will about Sage and Parsley, but they at least prove something of themselves. Rosemary? She fails at absolutely everything! While we watch Sage put together an antidote, Rose is screwing up a tree pose and getting comically beaten up by a dragon whelp - the same kind of whelp that everyone else, including the physically inferior Snapdragon (demonstrated later), managed to wrestle into submission long ago! Probably would've been interesting if her clumsiness goes away while she's wielding a sword (or something like a sword), but Episode 3 shows that she's clumsy even with a sword in her hand... I mean, what a waste, right? Even Ruby showed plenty of combat talent when she was approved to move up to Beacon Academy. The only student there who entered with no talent was Jaune, but his entry application was technically illegal - and even then, he didn't want to fool around like Rosemary did, and worked to improve himself. (Sorry, only using Beacon arc RWBY for High Guardian Spice comparisons, since there's only one season of the latter, and the Beacon arc is the most similar being the school arc.)
I think the centaur teacher is a male (I could be wrong, but you never know). And since you said that the teacher is flaunting his privates, well… Yeah.
I think what perfectly sums up how poorly written this show is, is the fact it's called High guardian spice and none of the main characters are named after spices. They are all named after Herbs.
Well, I mean, technicaly you can get spices from herbs, so in a way it makes sense. They are at the start of their Guardian journey and will have to grow and work on themselves to reach their goal. In a way it makes sense. But I doubt the writers did *those* mental gymnastics lol
It feels like the creators got super attached to the title and characters' names very early on in production, and didn't realize that sometimes you have to edit or remove things you really want to put in your work because it doesn't fit well.
So, I paused at 16:26 because a thought occurred to me. Well, several thoughts have occurred to me by this point, but a couple in particular. So, my first thought. I'm gonna write it out script style because that fits how I'm looking at it. [Begin scene] *Black screen, but thunder rumbles and growls just beyond the blackness. This goes on for a few seconds before lightning flashes and the thunder booms loudly, flashing in to the end of a nightmare. ROSEMARY is in scene, her back to the audience, as we see roots and vines growing around another person, who struggles against it, a sword in her grasp.* ROSEMARY: Mom!!!! *ROSEMARY gets up and runs toward her mom, but the distance only ever grows, until all she can do is watch as the vines finally close over her mother's face. Flash cut to the present. It is DAWN, and everything is peaceful. ROSEMARY is panting, sweating, and out of sorts, wearing some sort of sleepwear and laying in bed, the covers having been thrown off in her sleep.* ROSEMARY: *to herself* That nightmare again... (Groan the words. Extra points if she throws an arm across her forehead as she huffs out a sigh.) *ROSEMARY reaches into the neck of her shirt, withdrawing a PENDANT. She rubs her thumb across it, but does not open it. There is a faint knock heard on what can only be a door, and ROSEMARY swiftly stuffs the PENDANT back down her shirt.* ROSEMARY: C-Come in! (Hesitant. Sell the hesitancy.) *The door gently opens, and in comes DAD. He pauses for a moment, taking in his daughter's distressed being.* DAD: .... Is... Everything okay? You don't look so good. ... Bam. Suddenly, the pendant has meaning, the nightmare is meaningfully placed, and one set of parental figures is well and truly set to have an actual character introduction moment. And yes. There are descriptors that would also help. As an example, what Rosemary's room is filled with, or if it's completely bare of everything but the essentials. But that... Is effort best saved for another time.
Def sucks how they really nail into you how diverse the production team is yet all the screen writers are middle aged white women and most of not all the voice actors, from what I’ve heard, are white. Which wouldn’t be a problem if they didn’t really try to phone home how diverse the production team is. And then them being like “this show breaks gender norms and stereotypes” but then have sage go on a whole rant to snapdragon about how girls just have a deeper bond and guys could never understand but PLOTTWIST snapdragon does understand but not because this show is here to break gender norms or whatever but because he’s set up to be the transgender character which is coolio yknow. And also another stupid thing, bruh tell me why sage only finally starts to like snapdragon when he’s in his Halloween costume???? AND WHY IS TRANSITION FROM ONE GENDER TO ANOTHER STANGE IN A WORLD WHERE MAGIC AND MONSTERS EXIST WTFFFFFF
Yeah!? And how come a cat can transform into a little girl and no one bats an eye but the trans teacher has to explain his circumstances to Rosemary who seems to barely even grasp the concept of "I used to be that, now I'm this". And how come they couldn't think of better potions or magic to make the process less "I have to take this hrt potion each month or else" Why ground yourself in reality in a fantasy setting? Why limit yourself?
The writers could've used the second episode to flesh out Parsley, Sage and Amaryllis. E.g.: Parsley was good at blacksmithing, but couldn't use all her potential at home, 'cause her family was doing the regular BS, and she wanted to try the magical one. So, she read a lot about artifacts and was eager to study; during her first lesson a teacher gave them the creativity task (like "i need a flexible dagger with a resistence to ice, and yall can't use the next liquids in the process"), and Parsley manage to do everything much better than her mates, EVEN THO her work wasn't perfect. She also made a lot of mistakes, but she was happy, cause she finally can grow (pun intended). Sage and Amaryllis were fighting during all day, and when the students were poisoned, they began to compete who would create the antidote faster. And when the teacher praised them, suddenly Amaryllis was the one who said: "Fuck you, we could be dead. We can't trust you, when you poison us the first time we met. I will change my schedule just because I don't want to see you ever again". And when Sage, Parsley and Rosemary discuss this episode, Parsley and Rose are all of a sudden on Amaryllis' side, when Sage calls her "a-hole with no respect", because Sage finally felt powerful, smart and respected during the lesson. And also it can make Sage "a teacher's pet" type, which suits her, in my opinion. It can also explain her sudden shift to new magic: when all the teachers say that new one is better, it's actually, in her opinion, better. With that we can also re-make the scene with cousin Anise: Sage says how she hates her mom for teaching old magic, but Anise protests and says "It was her choice; you make yours, but you shouldn't blame your mom for hers". Yeah, just change the sides, so Anise would look like an adult, and Sage would have a conflict. And it also will draw a line between Sage and Parsley; the first one wants to be praised for her success, and the last one wants an improvement. These little changes could make this show interesting. Because stuff happens, but actually, without conflicts and actual relationships.
Something I just noticed, is how the characters often seem to not move, in a way that fits how they talk. Example. Episode one (in your video ca 2:39) Rose talks as if she is imagining some grand adventure and she can’t wait for it to happen in a high energy voice. How would you imagine someone to talk in such a scenario? Maybe they would pick up a stick and fight some imaginary foes, while jumping around. Showing that they are completely immersed in their fantasy. Or they grab their friend by the shoulder and point towards the horizon, where their dreams lie, with large hand gestures to emphasize the epicness. However in HGS, Rose just stands around, almost still. Looking at her friend in a casual way, that would fit better if she asked if her friend remembered to write down homework. As if they dubbed a line over the wrong scene. Such a basic animation mistake kills the immersion immediately. Because you feel the disconnect between what’s being said and what’s shown. And because the immersion breaks, you notice the other writing issues even more
The creators loved to harp about how diverse the show is (when they're an almost all white staff but ok) but literally like you said: the only thing that's different are the skin tones. I didn't see any proper black hair styles, any Asians, any South Americans, any disabilities, any distinguishable religious groups, any different body types baring Parsley's any... anything... The most diverse they get are different skintones and different sexualities which most of the characters aren't confirmed to have and we can't see at first glance. As must as diversity can be via skin tone, there are other factors that play too.
Plus Thyme is a daughter of black characters, yet her only distinguishing feature outside skin tone is her lips, they could've given her a more black hairstyle.
To be honest, when I began high school (this was in September 2001, so a long time ago), most teacher introductions were like that - the class mostly silent, everyone wondering in their heads when can we go home. When you're a teenager, your head is going to be elsewhere most of the time.
As a fellow writer, I should say this show (and Raye himself) lacks a lot of planning and feedback. It's really hard to keep track of all plot holes in a story. You have to read and edit from the beginning a million times and even then there could still be some, so I'm not even going there. But there are simple logic errors since the beginning. In episode 1, we see portal magic exists, since it was used by the elf and her wife (I forgot their names). So why do that whole travel segment, where the protagonists take like 3 different "vehicles" (I don't know what's the proper word for this in English, since it's not my native language) to get o Lyngarth? Are there a distance limit to the portals? Was it so they could "explore" the world? Why and how were these students selected? They seem to not even know what a guardian is (does anyone know tho?), so why even bother? They were almost killed by a teacher, does the school not care about their safety? And even if they don't, why would they still want to be students there, since they don't know what the goal of the academy is? This one isn't really a logic error, it seems more like a lazy writing pretending to be aesthetic: why is Sage's family so blue (from hair to clothes) and Rosemary's so pink? Is it like a clan, where you use different colors to identify yourself and can only have a relationship inside that clan? Is it some sort os bigotry from the characters part? Even aesthetic-wise, this doesn't make the slightest sense to me, since the background obviously didn't go well with the color pallette. But the icing on the cake is Raye silencing constructive criticism on Twitter. The one's that were like personal attacks I kinda get it, no one wants to be attacked. But then again, there were genuine (and good) advice there, this make it look like he doesn't want to be better at the job he likes, he just want people to watch and nod silently to everything they are shown, which I think can have a bad impact on his career. If you don't want to hear the feedback, maybe try not doing anything at all, I guess.
You bring up a lot of good points, I think I lot of the stuff you mention can be traced back to poor writing organization and adding things for the coolness of it. Like the portal magic being a thing that exists, but the team decided to add these wacky vehicles to show off "look how cool our world is!!!" even though it works against the logic.
The way the writers used these things were so inconsistent, like portals for example: the characters barely use the portals for inconvenient situations like when the MC were trapped in the cave or the sister school was under the attack by a sea dragon. The writers never thought this through while storyboarding, let alone scripting it.
Didn't realize this show just starts. Our two main leads are on there way to the academy with no build up whatsoever. I mean I guess they wanted to avoid main character wakes up from alarm clock opening but that would have been better cause we would have had some idea what Rose and Sage are leaving behind.
Yeah the fact that Rosemary and Sage's parents all look so similar to their spouses bothers me. Kinda like how Milhouse Van Houten's parents look so similar. Almost like they're siblings or cousins to one another. Also, I don't generally view nitpicks as valid complaints against a game or show's quality, unless there's a LOT to nit-pick. Because at that point, rather than being a few minor problems here and there than can be overlooked, they become a multitude of minor problems in a pattern that becomes not only noticable, but distracting and that makes it hard to focus on anything the show/game is doing right.
I was just going to mention Milhouse's parents lol! And you're completely right, it's not nit-picking if it's more than a few minor issues. But when you find one little thing off here, it leads to another and so on. This shows brings nothing new to the table, and there's no excuse in this day and age to not have on-model designs (the occasional off-model look was kind of cute in Steven Universe, but that was probably intentionally done)
Thank you! That has always been one of my biggest pet peeves for character design, when you could very easily mistake a character's parents for being siblings.
If a show punishes you for asking questions, it's probably a bad show The outro where they jump looks so much better than the rest of the show. The chibi style has so much more personality
Imagine if they used the Journey to Lyngarth to put some emphasis on society's reliance on new magic (like, show people using new magic in ways that aren't just for convenience, but even just for full on unnecessary flair) and then later in the season do the reveal of how new magic is what is causing "the rot" The first episode is supposed to be really exciting and help set up ideas and themes to be used later. Not just a plain "here are the characters. Here are their basic personalities". Edit: @18:14 is that the only animation director mentioned, because that's a South Korean company that has worked on a lot of stuff (though its very likely [just from how South Korean animation companies tend to be used] that they aren't usually the primary animators for projects and do less important scenes or help during a time crunch). One example being that they co-produced the second season of Rising of the Shield Hero, and they've been involved with a lot of comic book based animations like Justice League, The Batman, 19 episodes of Avatar the Last Airbender, and 1 episode of Teen Titans (according to Wikipedia).
You know that High guardian spice will only get worse since it's being handled by people who see criticism as a form of hate rather than a means to improve.
The people working on the show are definitely afraid of criticism, and no way would they tell each other "No, that's stupid". Their egos are inflated and kept that way by each other, and will constantly reaffirm one another as if it's empowering. Trapping themselves is a bubble of stupidity. And nothing is funny because people who are so up their own ass just don't understand humor. Especially feminist.
most of the team are females so yeah they're likely more concerned with ego and feelings because we all know if there will be a lot of drama in the workplace, as a woman my self who has experience working with full female coworkers can assume they can be super toxic and make the job harder. And for this case , I agree with what you said about they're afraid of criticism perhaps the lack of work experience, and how media pampering feminist and woketards too much, calling people who don't like their works are bigots, so they're just "ooh okay that's good enough, oh okay just make this moving PNG for the next scene, or don't worry, anyone who dislike our animation is probably homophobe/transphobe " and yadda yadda afraid to telling their coworkers the corrections or they will hurt their feelings..
I agree the mismanaged themes/topics and stilted dialogue in the show is great evidence of this. They invested time on the agenda rather than the script.
@@yourmother78910 What's funny is that I'm a Latina woman and artist, I'd be kicked out from the writing and art staff because I tend criticize the ideas and designs, cuz I want it to be good, and I call myself an amateur artist and writer, but after years of watching anime and cartoons, I have been observing what works and what doesn't. But hey, I can always pull the race card on them lmao
I like how this show has the power to connect people and bring new creators just cause it's bad and we're trying to figure it out why. Hope you'll grow up in this plataform.
I'd say calling this show "mediocrity at it's finest" is doing mediocre shows a disservice. This show isn't "mediocre." It's plain old "bad." Also about the content warning at the start, and what the show actually contains; I feel like it's a reflection of the writers' maturity. In their eyes this basically PG-13 show has "mature content", implying that they, as adults, still have the mindset of 13 year olds.
Dude no joke high guardian is like the steven universe love child but with not as good as the original actually a bootleg version of the love child would make more sense
I like how I have at this point watched several reviews abide is about this show and every one has had an entirely different set of things to say about the things they liked and more so hated. Your video in particular is asking questions some of the other reviews scarcely touched on while also making suggestions on things that could have been done differently to improves the show or scenes. Nice.
5:32 As a Background Character Buff, you are right…they could have focused on Aster, Amaryllis, Snapdragon, Parnell, Slime Boy, and Cal. Then called it a day on that part. Something tells me we would have known about the other…30? 40? 50 Students in that part of the intro? Other Anime can pull that part off much better.
Yeah, it makes a lot more sense to put the whole ensemble of dozens of side characters in the opening for later seasons rather than the first season. Most anime with large ensemble casts or a villain-of-the-week format where you have a new character introduced each episode don't even show *that* many characters in the first season's opening, because the first season isn't enough time to introduce 50-some-odd side characters, let alone develop them or make us care about them.
36:10- to protect... to protect... You mean... to protect the world from devastation to unite all peoples within our nation to denounce the evils of truth and love to extend our reach to the stars above jessie...(the old one) james...(the middle aged one) team rocket blast off at the speed of light surrender now or prepare to fight meowth, that's right (the young one) Well there is three of them, so it fits perfectly
Motto breakdown to protect the world from devastation (this is what guardians should do) to unite all peoples within our nation (uniting lyngarth as one) to denounce the evils of truth and love (the only out of place line, truth and love here probably means LGBT/transrights, idk) to extend our reach to the stars above (it means missionaries, extending their help over to other countries) jessie... (the old one, has the attitude of jessie) james... (the middle aged one, has the attitude of james) team rocket blast off at the speed of light (whenever there is a need, the guardians will be at the battlefield like the speed of light) surrender now or prepare to fight (ordering all their enemies to surrender with least the resistance, or face the guardians in all their might) meowth, that's right (the young one, even more validation) Why is it that if you tweak the team rocket motto a little, it feels like a stronger and more impactful guardian vow.
@@trumann5975 sure go ahead :) Omg I think the truth and love really made sense in this context. Ahaha that's the perfect guardian vows! XD simple and straight to the point
This is really your first video? Damn, this is really some high production, good job on that bro. Love the first episode, just kinda finished up your fourth one, and I hope you make more content in the future
23:10 - 23:20 How do they know what a blowtorche or flamethrowers are? Wouldn't they use fire magic I mean they have those water magic gloves instead of a fire extinguisher that anyone can use in the last episode What is welding and metal working like in this world is they have that stuff?
I can't help but compare this to the *vastly* superior "Wizard City" chapter of Adventure Time: Distant Lands. Because they actually wrote a really good, dark story that wasn't predictable.
If you saw the one Rayetoons as Raye Rodriguez did of this series as a concept, you'd know that this show would be about as interesting and well written as a wet rock.
Yeah. Sure, specialized high schools for gifted kids or kids planning to go into a certain career do exist IRL and are a common setting in anime, but the show just being like "You're here because you're ☆☆☆special☆☆☆ uwu" without any explanation as to why the characters were accepted kills the whole point of it being an elite school. It really does seem more like a self-insert fantasy for the writers to pat themselves on the back for being so ☆☆☆special☆☆☆. Usually in anime where the characters are students at an elite school, it explains why the students got accepted. But other than Parsley or Sage, I don't get why any of the other characters got in...
I like your video is so much fun listen to your prospective, opinion and ideas about the show. you make a really good analysis to the story and I love your advice at the end of the video make me motivate to write again and complete my project, I hope you continue giving good advice about writing and what to do and not to do. I watched A lot of video about the show even though I didn't watch the show, that why I see my opinion come from other people opinion and perspective (like you), I see the the story have an interesting idea it can be good if just give it a time and and team that care about story and deliver rather than a agenda and propaganda.
Upon reflection, I can see some ways the ideas in these 2 episodes could have worked. Episode one arguably has the most world building. I especially like that zoom out of the giant, and the travel montage, while dragged out, did have a bit of charm in seeing all these modes of transportation. Personally I would have made episode one like Little Witch Academia, where the first episode is just getting to school, and simply getting there is the conflict. It would also help to flesh out Rosemary and Sage. The whole guardian vow thing both does and doesn't make sense. I'd like to think it could be one of those weird assignments where you write a future letter to yourself, and at graduation you go back and see how you've changed. So maybe the vow is supposed to be like that, and then at graduation many seasons later, the characters are arced out enough to make serious vows based on their growth and experience.
I think it's more than evident that snap's character probably existed solely to put in a character pre-transition for Caraway to lecture trans stuff too.
@@trumann5975 Very poorly done. Due to probably the worst setting this would work in. Since magic would have made swapping genders a common and non-omg thing. I mean, the show is at least consistent in that area. Nothing has any proper explanation or rules. Harry Potter gave things reason. Why do they use a train. When the world is magic. Because even second year students can screw up on the fireplace teleporting magic. So it's easier for them to just walk through a hidden door. And have a train drive them to Hogwartz. Also the fireplace powder has a space limit. So baggage etc. wouldn't fit. They put in limitations and conventional things to work within the magic world right. Not to mention. The fireplace teleporting is restricted to locations. VS they can just teleport anywhere. This avoids a plot hole. The two ladies in spice can make a portal to that bed room. Does that power have a distance limit? Does it drain you? If no to those. Than why do trains exist? They even use a broom at some point. Why didn't they just fly the whole way? This is where a limitation would have benefited. Picture pilot episode. They're suppose to take the train etc. But Rosemary makes them use the broom. Sage warns them we can't fly on this forever. Our magic could run out. And will be stranded. That could have been the conflict. The two leads argue, go, they screw up. Get stuck in a dangerous situation. You can than introduce Parsely. Because their broom broke and need rescuing. Parsley could be training nearby. Because she's new to blacksmithing. Her family forces her to train far away from the home. So she doesn't burn it down. And hears their screams. This sets up their personalities, and gives us some action. You could than have their families in flashback's. Showing Rosemary doing dangerous things. Because she saw her mother doing things. And she wants to prove she's like her.
Given that there are several formulas that underlie almost all human stories and that by following some of those patternsor change others in some ways, and most people will enjoy them, one can most DEFINITIVELY say that there are objectively BAD stories and writing.
I can already tell you'll be big one day on youtube! I love watching people make points about HGS because people like me can learn from it. I love your video keep up the good work!
I'm gonna start my notes on how I'd improve this show in the comments cuz this is the first 'play by play' I've seen that I can use for this sooo Episode one: We spend longer with the family, longer in town, showing Rose training against the local guardians. She gets in trouble, taking on a fight that's too big for her, and Sage uses old magic to save her from any serious injuries, but the locket is broken (much worse than it was broken in the show. Like it's cracked in half, keeping it from closing, but there's fracturing along the outside and the inner picture is dirty from hitting the ground). Rose looks ready to cry seeing it break, and Sage comes over, ready to give a friendly 'quit getting into fights I need to save you from' lecture but stops seeing the necklace broke. She offers a word of comfort and says 'maybe there's someone in [whatever the town they were going to is named] who can fix it?'. Rose nods and suppresses her feelings, acting stoic and saying something like 'yeah! There's so many amazing metalworkers in [town] I bet I can get it repaired in no time!" before Rose pauses and goes "you used new magic...? Are you sure about that.. you know what your mom says about it." Sage says "it's fine. It saved you, after all!" . Their parents come to collect them and take them to the train station and we get, for Rose, lines like "Be careful about getting in too many fights! We know you're a fighter, but please, be safe." and "Mom would be proud if she could see you, and we know she'll be proud of you when she comes home." Sage gets "Be careful of that New Magic, it's [something dangerous about new magic, probably something like 'it doesn't respect the old ways! Using it kills living things!]" and "I love you honey, remember to keep practicing your sigils surrounded by nature, so if you mess up like you did last time, nature will protect you!" Giving exposition about new and old magic. Then both are handed their weapons (Rosemary gets her mom's sword, which was promised to her if she could prove she could use it, and Sage gets her first staff, something that parents make when their child is ready to begin channeling strong magic) and told who they're looking for in town. They board the train, and Rose pulls out the broken locket, looking down at it sadly. Sage tries to fix it with magic but only breaks it further and gives an apologetic look, but before she can say anything, Rose puts on a brave face and says 'It's okay. We'll find someone to fix it." As the train leaves the station, it starts winding up the mountain, and you see just how tiny the hometown is. Rose and Sage look to each other, then to the town, wide eyed, before looking to each other and grinning and they start making comments and jokes about being heroes from a small town, about bringing honor and notoriety to their home, and about how they're ready for bigger adventures. During the train ride, Rose hears someone talking about their metalsmithing business, and how 'if only someone could get me [x] then I'd do anything for them!!" and steals a witch's broom to fly off, determined to get her locket fixed. Sage calls out before stealing one too and following. They get the item and return only for the metal smith to say "This isn't even worth repairing. Just buy a new one." and Rose argues, with Sage stepping in to provide some more level headed arguments for her friend. They get kicked off the train for starting a fight, but they get to keep the brooms. Their luggage doesn't come with, as Sage realizes, so she makes Rose turn back and they meet up with the train. It drops them off at the train station nearest the school, and the aunts are waiting there and pick them up, worried about why they weren't on the train. Rose struggles to lie, being too honorable and knightly, so Sage takes up the lie, voice shaky and stuttery (she's also bad at lying but at least she CAN do it), and explains like "Oh we just wanted some fresh air!". They get to their place and we get a bit of exposition when we see luggage in the place like "[Elf Aunt] is having to go to the forest to try to deal with something there." and "I have to go home. I can feel the trees and the source of all elven lives dying, and... Well, that's enough darkness for you two. You're both still novice guardians, you should focus on your schooling!" and so they have a family moment, like a dinner, before going to bed. Rose has a nightmare still, but it's about how her mom said something about going to fight some 'big darkness' before she disappeared, and how she's terrified she's going to lose her aunt that way too. She wakes up and hears voices. She grabs her sword and sneaks into the living room and hears several of the teachers talking with the aunts, giving more exposition about what is happening with the elven woods. Rose gasps, and they stop, looking towards her. She quickly retreats, and once the adults have confirmed she's 'asleep' she wakes Sage and explains what she heard. Sage gives some sort of potential exposition like "my mom says [and then something to show Sage's mom or other family member is also in danger, probably because Sage's mom is working in the elven woods as an old magic expert]..." and Rose says "We have to help!" and sage responds with "Then we better become guardian's soon! We need to get stronger to help our family!" ANNND END CREDITS.
Episode two: It starts off with them going to school and they get into that caravan, being driven all the way to school, where they explore the grounds a bit and, upon seeing the smithy, meet Parsley, who lives on the grounds with her father, who is a blacksmith for the three lines of courses (blacksmithing is an apprenticeship that he teaches with the school's approval, and he has Parsley and perhaps one other of his children as his two apprentices) and they ask her dad to fix the locket. He, too, refuses, and Rose and Sage both look so dejected Parsley offers to try. They thank her and go to their dorm, expressing how it's bigger than both of their rooms. They unpack, and we get some character exposition between the two, showing their friendship and main concerns. They are summoned to the auditorium via building wide announcement, where the three women (Who represent the Maiden Mother Crone, an important goddess / trio of goddesses to pagans and no one can change my mind) explain what guardians are, and how not only each guardian is sworn to protect the nation and it's people, to uphold balance within the world and to safeguard all that is sacred, but how they will add something additional to their vows, such as "I will never swing my blade without just cause" and "I will never use my magic to draw blood from those who do not wish it upon themselves" other honorable statements (it can be anything, as long as it's important to the character and within the previously set boundaries of the standard part of the vow.) The vows are meant to be built up so that when they graduate, they will know what they wish to do in life beyond 'be good guy, do good' and 2nd and especially 3rd year kids will have apprentice ships where they learn how to better fufill their personalized vow. There, we see both Thyme, who is standing in the background and gets a 'they look scary' from Rose / Sage, and then they see Parsley, who wants to learn to fight. They go to the ethics class, where someone walks in and they assume they're the teacher, but no they draw a massive summoning circle and you get the demon teacher, who's voice they had heard in episode one, and SHE'S HOT OKAY SHE'S GONNA BE HOT I NEED TO ADD THIS, and while she is summoned everyone is like panicked and several people draw weapons, but she comes in and introduces herself like "I am professer [name], and I'll be your ethics teacher~" she talks about trasfiguration, doing the example with the two rats / spikey boys, and it's a lesson about balance, and she brings it back to 'you need to learn to balance your beliefs. If they contradict, and they will, you will need to learn to find a balance. A third option, a compromise... anything to protect both values. If one must be compromised, you will need to know how to weigh which one is more important, and that, students, is what I'm here to teach~". Snapdragon makes a snarky comment as he draws his sword like "Why is a demon teaching ethics? Shouldn't you be out terrorizing babies or stepping on puppies?" and before the teacher can argue, Rose draws a weapon too, ready to fight her. The teacher allows both to attack her (Though they try to work together they keep getting in each other's ways) before stepping away. Some calls out (I am not letting Sage and Rose share this class period) calls out "You're destroying the room!" midway through the 'fight' and Rose stops, looking around and seeing students are scared OF HER (and Snapdragon). Snapdragon attacks, almost hitting a student before Rose catches his blade and throws him back from the student. He turns, ready to attack her too, but she places her sword over his chest and says 'wait.' then turns to the teacher and asks 'why is a demon a teacher?' and she explains all of it and then smiles and says "I commend you for ceasing your attacks~" then turns to the class. "This student came to the right conclusion. Often times, problems can be solved with your words, not your swords." She then carefully takes snap's sword. "Though often times, if a problem can't be solved with words, it is best to draw your sword and end it quickly, before someone gets hurt." She looks to the student he had just attacked, then to him pointedly, earning a small, annoyed 'sorry' from him before he sits back down. She uses old magic to fix the classroom (it's revealed there's a massive spell like on the ceiling to repair the room because she always starts a semester / schoolyear with students attacking her and she got tired of drawing new sigils each time). Cut to Parsley, trying to figure out how to repair the locket. It's a short scene, just her thinking and shows her punching a boxing bag as she thinks before she gets the idea how to fix it and she grins and runs off. Cut to the next class, with Caraway. He has a much more normal introduction (not just straight being summoned). He introduces himself and Sage and Amaryllis both raise their hands and get into like a 'b1tch off' trying to prove who knows more. Caraway stops them with two sigils over their face. He gives more exposition for New Magic and Old Magic, talking again about balance between the two and explaining in a less biased way what both are, correcting both Amaryllis and Sage on places where their biases come through. You get a bit more exposition in the background of Caraway teaching while Amaryllis and Sage form their rivalry. Cut to the next class with the nb centaur (I refuse to admit that character is a BINARY person I mean just look at em). Which has a more biased perceptive of new magic and Amaryllis being a bully. Sage presses down and mutters 'I use new magic too...' and Amaryllis makes a snarky remark about how old magic is weak and deserves to die. Back in the dorm during freetime (They do share that period) they talk about the two bullies they faced and hype each other up, like "Yeah Rose you're a great fighter, you got that fighting instinct from your mom" and "YEAH! AND I BET YOU'LL FIND A WAY TO USE BOTH OLD AND NEW MAGIC AND PROVE EVERYONE WRONG!!" "YEAH I'LL DO THAT- Wait!!! I Can do that!! That'll be my vow!! I'll vow to work towards unifying old and new magic!" "YEAH, AND I'LL VOW-... I'll vow...?" "Don't worry. You'll find your vow!" and it shows their friendship and shows Rosemary needs to find herself while Sage is going to bring both sides of her magic closer! Sage goes to the last class, One I'll call "Potions" where they are all given poison tea. Sage and Amaryllis are sat next to each other and both begin to doubt the tea like based of it's color or scent and they argue over it but both end up concluding 'this is poisoned." and dump their cups. As they do, a student like throws up or collapses, showing they did get poisoned. Everyone freaks out, but the teacher remains where she is. The class go to help the poisoned student (no one else drank enough tea yet to get the effects of poison). As they do, they notice the student was a disabled student (For diversity). Sage manages to save the student while Amaryllis takes control and checks on the remaining students, and class continues on as normal. Later, at like dinner, Parsley runs up to them, having semi repaired to locket. The break couldn't be fully fixed, so it now has a golden scar across it's back. She asks like "What's so important about the locket anyways? It's just cheesecake." and Rose laughs and goes "Oh, I just really like cheesecake!" and puts the locket back on, but later that night, you see her take the picture out and look at her mom and say "I'll find you one day. I promise." and sage comes over and leans on her shoulder and says "We'll find her, together. We're friends, afterall." And Rose nods, and as the episode closes, it zooms in on something in the picture that foreshadows the mother turning against the country and the guardians.
It feels like this show was made by unimaginative adults with the maturity and storytelling ability of children, and that's why it comes across as a terrible kids' show that isn't meant for kids.
Somehow I feel like I could write a really good fanfic about HGS and probably make the characters a lot better... and probably expand the world building and lore by making up my own stuff within the show's standards (but you know do it better).
28:53 if you want me to be honest, this is what my business class is like most of the time. The teacher will literally speak to us and we wouldn’t say a word 😅 Obviously there was still those one or two ppl who had guts to speak up
And I expect that more or less with adults(I'm assuming your an adult at the time, correct me if I'm wrong) but not starry eyed children who are chasing their dreams.
Harry Potter had a nice opening, you see him brought to the Dursleys, him living there, the invitation letters, and only then the trip really begins. In all that you learn a lot about his life and how he is. This opening? What opening... The question: What does this scene do? Was never asked!
Honestly, what would’ve been more interesting based on the first episode (and I’ve never watched HGS) would’ve been is this was a MG coming-of-age show. Rosemary could’ve gone to the school since it would allow her to search for her parents (who in this idea were teachers who mysteriously vanished on school grounds). In the first episode, Rose would’ve wanted to explore/gather clues since she is naturally gifted at school while her friend wants to study/train. However, Rose constantly gets distracted during her search due to her child-ish personality. The next day, there is a test which Rose fails and she worries that she will flunk out. She also recalls how she has no leads on her parents in her notes. These two reminders makes her realize that she has a lot of maturing to do. Over the course of the season, Rose could practice using her magic on-screen, work hard, and try to be more mature in balancing school all the while looking for her mother.
Wait... so Raye now claims this is "not anime", but yet they tried so hard to make it an anime to the point of copying the Azumanga Daioh ending sequence?
the worst thing is given the premise of the story this had so much potential if it had been given to someone actually competent! that is probably the biggest thing they did wrong.
Unless Trumann deliberately dropped it, I felt there's a _very_ strong "Old magic vs. New magic" thing, and going off of the info here alone- I have *zero* clue what's the difference between the two
@@trumann5975 so the magic system and Sage's main character arc is basically introduced as: "In this school, we use Magic 10" Sage: "but mom told me to use Magic 98!"
Is there a reason Parsley (dwarf girl) is being voiced in a manner an adult woman would voice a male child or androgynous adult? Reis must be really early on in his transition if that's the voice he did for Carroway. Maybe not taking any testosterone. Just sounds like a woman pitching her voice waaay down. Julia Demita did more convincing male voices in the 90s/00s.
Episode 1(assuming you haven't seen the latter episodes first): Destroy Rosemary and Sages views on guardians. Since they're always together the scenario will be like that too. Someone Kick Rosemary ass physically and Sage mentally. Remove the red car part. Have them walk through the forest instead. In said forest they meet someone. Person asks: hey, you training to become guardians? Rosemary (because of her personality showed so far in this episode) doesn't hesitate to say "yes". Sage is cautious but with her old magic and Rosemary sword, they'll be safe. Right? After they 2 finish talking the person defeats rosemary in a flash. Sage can't process it. The person walks up to Sage and asks the same question. Sage pees herself and the person walks away assuming her answer but says "Guardians are a bad spice for Mercenaries y'know." Reasons for scene:Dark tone introduced. Tells a little bit about the world and one of things guardians do. The dangers of being a guardian.
As I see all this show is about "lets live in the infantile world without any rules, any struggle, any hard learning, any real conflicts". Every time they are facing some aspect of life where you are gonna fail hard, or struggle, or must sacrifice something and face hardships they are just skipping it. For example this school is supposed to be something "high", like a high education in my country, which IS a hell, frustration, and a very hard thing to fail at and being kicked off. VERY easy. And writers are "oh lets everything would be fun and games" but it would be much better if it is a very hard education AND a fun stuff inside of it, so it would have humor AND a stakes.
I mean, I would certainly hold songs to a high standard when they want to consider it to be high art of anime-style and thus automatically invite comparison with basically anything. Poor singing aside tho, yeah. This ain't it, chief. Especially with whatever the scene at 14:33 is. "Yeah, one of the mainduo almost just killed someone. Let's make that random girl join the team later!" One of the weirdest accidential meetings between characters I have ever seen. I personally think of how I would completely change it to fix it from time to time. Like, chapter 1 of my version would be about the duo in the past where they are established and meet(Spoilers, Rose is an Orphan who has nothing from her family except the sword in this concept. That is why she knows nothing about her mother or guardians. Instead of her just being dumb like this here.). chapter2 is the equivalent of this episode 1 where they run away from their home and travel to the city where they intend to enroll into the academy. Parsley would get a proper plot where her wishes directly contradict with her family, so she just leaves(Which would later come back) and there at some point would be a fifth girl in the series that is the typical antagonistic one who eventually joins. I have no idea at the moment how I would factor Thyme into this at the moment, but there surely is some way to do it. I actually really should write this out at some point, because I want to know if my ideas on it are actually as cool as I personally think. But my laziness and being a mediocre writer who has no idea how to get from point A to B and pace things(Though this doesn't know how to do it either, evidently) really hinders it.
On conflict: Every episode should have conflict, even if it is something so simple as: "Johnny and Jill want to get sandwiches, and have strong opinions on where they should get them from." Sounds basic and low stakes, but with how low the stakes are in HGS a conflict like this would spice it up.
One of the things I don't like about this show is the beginning. From what I learned writing-wise, in the beginning you're supposed to show what you want the audience to expect, and show at least some sort of conflict or long-term goal for the protagonists depending on if it's an episodic series or extending over an arc. What I see in the first few episodes is a ham-fisted jumble of ideas that don't summarize to anything interesting because of the lack of clarification. Another irritating thing is the flexible descriptions of the "magics" so that they can make up bull as the show goes on. They don't introduce any rules to ground the limitations of the characters' abilities or any scale of what the characters can do in the story other than "ooh this is a warrior" or "ooh this is a blacksmith". Also why in the hell is there a blacksmithing class in an academy where these supposed "guardians" are learning how to protect people? (would make sense if they EXPLAINED WHAT IS A GUARDIAN) At least it would make sense if it was an armor/weapon maintenance lesson, since they would probably be out on the road a lot, considering that someone said they based it off of D&D concepts, or so I heard. And what annoys me the most is their excuse of "Oh we had a small budget sorry about that". You don't need a good budget to make a good story, you need good writers to make a good story. Sure, animation could be forgiven at least if the budget is small, but they could have at least better writing to make up for it.
I find it funny that the 4 main characters are not even named after spices but herbs. So shouldn't the show be named High Guardian Herb? Cause The writers where clearly high off their rockers when they created this series.
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0:00 Intro
1:28 Episode 1
17:43 Episode 2
39:23 Retrospective
Heyo like the video and i want to say at 8:45, you should only consider something a nitpick if whatever your critiquing about isn't consistently found.
If for example the only time they used a stock image or png of something, was the scene with the bread, I'd consider it a nit pick if you fixate on it. Nit picks are mostly just critques built off isolated flaws that don't happen very often.
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You're right I shouldn't have been hyperbolic and used a different word.
@@trumann5975 i wouldn't say you were hyperbolic. A lot of reviewers say some of their opinions might be nit picks.
Not sure if it mayhaps be nerves, can't fathom whats in others noggins. This wasn't to point out a flaw, just to say if your honest and see flaws consistently then be confident about your assessment.
Opinion based content is opinion base and if you make a mistake you can always acknowledge it and move on.
This isn’t mediocrity this is bad, that would be a compliment by good sir
@@trumann5975 11:25 Bruh what did cats ever do to you 😂
The guardian vows were such a missed opportunity. The assignment effectively boiled down to, “Write down your motivation for being here and shout it into this hole so that the audience can hear it”. This could have been an efficient, non-contrived way to get us invested in the entire main cast in a single episode. Yet the show takes this genius premise and does nothing with it. Not only do we never see anyone working on their vows, but when we finally hear them, they turn out to be vaguely heroic buzzwords that tell us nothing about who these girls are.
Very true, if the first episode focused on our soon to be guardians and established their motivation on why they wanted to become guardians it would've been way better than the 2 episodes combined.
Not to mention they were appearantly *wrong* and they all have to follow the same vows but in different DnD classes (warrior, mage, etc.).
The show wasted a few good oportunities to be honest...
I absolutely cannot STAND Rosemary! It's like the writers took all the worst aspects of shonen protagonists and the "genki girl" archetype, Frankenstein'd them together and produced an immature, obnoxious, shallowly written abomination who shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects, let alone be trusted with a sword 😑
This! Despite wanting to be a hero she doesn't have any of the characteristics of a want to be hero and the writing only makes her look incompetent.
Ohhh, I absolutely agree.
The only one even worse in the main cast was Sage!
@@Solanin0803 Sage is horrible. She's constantly saying and doing awful things, but the writers lack the self-awareness needed to address it, so she's written to be constantly in the right no matter how wrong she is.
You think Rosemary is bad!? The moment those three harpies of headmistress started talking I began to wonder:
"If I kill the youngest one, will the other two disappear?"
Imagine if she mated with Asta from Black Clover...
The funny thing about this "diverse show" is that it's actually not diverse. There's minimal poc, and zero disabled/sick characters.
All we know that the writing crew contained all white women. Their writing focused in sex more than the other thing like poc…
Oh they're sick all right. Mentally sick to think this would qualify as an anime instead of a place holder on cartoon network
and no ideological diversity. there are no cultists with crazy ideas but who try to serve the community for their own reasons while decrying the "degeneracy" of the main population. there are no cultural conflicts between groups, even though there are literally different species at this school.
there is a demon who is a teacher. why aren't there religious characters pointing out how fucked it is to have a demon teach ethics? why is a human and an elf dating just normal? it's a perfect opportunity to see some conflict! "oh, she's just messing around in her youth, when the human dies she'll get a *real* partner". this would actually be a perfect opportunity to go all "are they talking about the interspecies relationship? or that she is the gay?" because of all the double entendres about her being young and it being a phase you can throw out!
but no. every one is the same, west coast way of thinking. even the "closed minded" characters are only how the writers imagine those characters must be.
While I ascribe that diversity doesn't always mean everyone has to be of a different race or be disabled, I agree that to the typical layman that is an obvious check in the box at a surface glance for something called "diverse".
Seriously, though, we should stop saying that only different races and disabilities is the only true diversity.
@@blastortoise the important thing is diverse mind sets.
"I vow to stay curious and engage, to look at the world with a questioning eyes" BRUH they could've done "to look at the world with a questioning gaze" could've made the vow rhyme tbh
What a wasted line!
They could've done something with Rose's Mom being some legendary warrior and play up the nepotism angle.
Rosemary would only be there because her of mother, but she's lacking in any real talent and has to work and prove herself.
An interesting conflict is that Sage wouldn't have a legendary family, but is extremely talented and eventually feels that Rosemary, being behind everyone else, is holding her back. Give these characters conflict and moments to tear each other down and build each other back up.
There's something here, but everything isn't utilized properly and needed someone to say "No, this doesn't work" and fix the script.
I wouldn't say predictable stories are bad. what is bad is when the story is predictable in a boring way.
soap operas are _extremely_ predictable, but they are predictable in emotionally tense and engaging ways. the problem with them is usually that the plot makes no logical sense, and cause and effect bend in crazy ways to get the most emotionally exploitative result rather than the characters and the plot working together it make an emotionally and mentally engaging story.
high guardian herb has a completely different problem. the characters are card board cutouts who the writers refuse to have anything bad happen too, the plot is stale and boring and the setting makes no sense at all. this means that, because the characters can never have bad things happen to them, and we don't understand the setting, we cannot get emotional engagement, and because the plot is an afterthought and we can't understand its implications for the world we cannot have rational engagement.
the issue isn't predictability. the issue is that regardless of if we know the result or not, we don't give a shit.
Exactly 👏👏👏
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Hearing Sage's take on guy friendships has got me seething to no end. In my experience, the guy friends I hang out with can be loving and supporting like how a group of friends comprised of girls would. Hell, by Sage's stereotype logic, I could say the same thing about how toxic a friendship of girls can be, given their gossiping and Judgemental attitudes can breed room for negativity and pessimism, which isn't at all beautiful. To me, not only is this just agenda pushing but also shows that the writers don't understand that the way friendships work are not mutually exclusive to gender.
Pardon my cynicism but I don't think the crew behind this show are the types to have actual friends. They seem more like a ragtag group of insecure individuals who come together based off superficial connections and mutual loathing for others that remind them of their insecurities.
To play devil's advocate, Sage's grudge against guy friendships could have been fine if the show bother to make Sage learn over time that this isn't the way of thinking things. They could also make the audience understand Sage's bias, not agree, but understand her if they also showcase why Sage feels this way to begin with. But considering that the show is filled with awkward writing, it made this moment read the other way and didn't expand on it. Whether it's intentional or not, it's still a missed opportunity nonetheless.
It's no different than men saying se×ist shi† like "guys and girls can't be friends, it will always turn se×uaI." 🙄 This is what happens when you have zero self awareness.
The other terrible thing about her saying these things is its not there to show a character flaw for Sage, but to bring attention to Snapdragon's struggle with (I guess his own sexuality)
What frustrates me about this show is how much potential the magic system had. The whole old magic vs new magic debate? THAT'S HELLA INTERESTING! ELABORATE ON THAT! They only ever show Sage defending old magic while everyone else makes fun of her. Have other students/teachers defend old magic so that it's an actual debate! Actually explain how the two kinds of magic differ! Delve into the pros and cons of each type of magic and why people prefer one over the other! THE MAGIC SYSTEM COULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING!
This reminds me of something similar in Black Clover and the expansion of its magic system. Asta and a few others go to the Heart Kingdom, and it's here where we learn about mana arrays and more about the differences between Heart and Clover.
Essentially, mana arrays draw power from nature itself to attack as opposed to magic only making them stronger and allowing for the use of commands to instruct spells. The key thing here is nature as Heart mages mostly have elements such as Fire, Lightning, Wind, etc whereas Clover has developed more unusual magic elements including Ash, Spatial, Time, and Transformation to name a few and those lose the ability to draw magic from nature itself.
In this show old magic could draw from the idea of the old witch stereotype and rely more on natural sources with potions, chanting spells and so on whereas new magic could require more specialist training to develop and use but be require simpler commands/be instantaneous. So sorta the classic witch vs a more superhero like witch if that makes any sense.
@@azurai3934 This made me realize Black Clover may have raised my standards for magic systems
That'd require it not to be just an allegory for conservative parents vs based progressive liberals. There are so many bits on this show that to naive eyes "could have been more", but they never WANTED to be more, they weren't created with the intent to be more.
Not to mention that her arguments should revolve around more than "my mother told me" and "it's sacred."
Or rather than have students/teachers defend old magic, since the school is hard focused on new magic (even though some students just arbitrarily know old magic near the end), have some outside forces speak their mind on old magic and how it could be useful.
Characters like the dwarves, the mermaids, or even the villains could have explained old magic or utilized it in a way that showcased its pros over new magic. Maybe new magic is quick and easy, but old magic has the potential to be much stronger. Or new magic is varied in use, while old magic does a few select spells, but it can do them better if charged for longer. Anything to distinguish the two other than "one is slow and bad, while the other is fast and good."
Make no mistake: That "for adults only" disclaimer exists purely for monetary reasons. If anyone thought this show was aimed at children, they wouldn't be allowed to roll personalized ads. Hooray for plausible deniability. XP
I had never seen the ethics class scene, but man, does it deliver the message horribly!
If she's trying to teach the class that the presence of weapons shouldn't guide our actions, why is she using creatures that become hostile towards each other the moment they have weapons in hand?
This could have been a good showcase of Rosemary's idea that both having blades will not result in the intended outcome, and either one of the creatures will be aggressive no matter if both have spikes or not, but will become docile if it's the only one without spikes. That way the lesson is that bad people exist and will want to harm you, unless they themselves can't get away with it, so you should always be ready to defend yourselves and others, but never be the one to believe just because you have the weapon or power to hurt others that you should choose that path.
Seriously, if you remove the knives from two people that are trying to stab each other, they'll just try to punch each other to death instead. Her reverting the creatures back to normal only for their aggressiveness to vanish and hug immediately doesn't teach anything, it implies people become aggressive because they have weapons, not because of the choices they make. This on a show where children are SUPPOSED TO HAVE WEAPONS AND FIGHT!
It's infurating because I _know_ it's some kind of jab from *_That Side_* towards the Umbrella of Self-Reliance and Responsibility, in this case specifically the right of humans to bear weapons to defend themselves. The 2nd Amendment.
*_That Side_* is vehemently against it in any way, shape or form, and while I wont get into the immense amount of garbage that mindset is, I will say it's infuriating that they seem to have this facade belief of "Oh well without weapons everyone would just be nice!" like *_BULLSHIT_* people have been wanting to kill each other before our civilization even knew what _an actual tool was._
A Rock is a weapon, a sharp stick is a weapon, _our hands_ are more than adequate to do significant damage to just about anything and I get real tired of these soft-bodied weak-minds trying to tell us -"You can be controlled easier- everyone will be good to each other if you just disarm them!"
Great catch and analysis
Thank you for putting my thoughts about that scene into words
Hmmm I mean it seemed to be aimed at not getting pigeon holed in your thinking. The nature of the creatures simplifies the point because while yes, transforming the defenseless one means that it has a fair fight, the same effort to be taken to transform the aggressive one. De-escalation is generally preferable IF it's feasible. So the point is decent but I'm also not entirely sure why that's coming from the ethics teacher. It also highlights a potential deficit in Rosemary's thinking but as was stated in the video they don't do anything with it. Plus without knowing what Guardians actually do at that point it's unclear how helpful it is
If you take another step back, having the creatures be hostile when pointy & snuggly when not is also, on a certain level, inherently racist...especially in a D&D-like world. There's also really nothing in Rosemary's comments that even vaguely suggests she's anything but bloodthirsty--that she's hoping to get to see blood get spilled--which is something an ethics teacher should be noting and being concerned about. I mean, do you really want to be known as the ethics teacher of somebody who gets themselves famous as, say, "That bigot who slaughtered a bunch of baby dragons for having the audacity to exist"?
Personally I am thankful that High Guardian Spice exists. It's become my creative playground for a fantasy story project. Though my forte is just visuals. Of course I have to watch the show itself to have my own insight.
For my Episode 1 rewrite, the lesbian relatives should've shown Rose and Sage in the school already so it doesn't feel like filler. The incident with the locket could still happen.
For my rewrite of the Guardian Vows episode I made the main cast find out that to become a guardian they have to choose their method of execution and dishonor when they fail and/or abandon their guardianship. It's to show their dedication to the line of duty. And Thyme is the first one to step forward to the well and speak her vow and method of execution. Meanwhile, Rose and Sage are shocked by the requirement of having a personal death warrant and they have to do it now or forfeit their qualifications for Guardianship.
I mean, the writers want a mature audience didn't they? Make the candy-colored show have mature themes.
Thanks for reminding me about the "is sleep a food" line. Because I KNOW what they were trying to do there and they still managed to fuck it up. They wanted rose to say
"X"? なにそれ? おいしいの?
which is a common phrase to show someone being ignorant or too
single-minded on food. Rose, being a one-track girl, could totally say
the line and have it be believable. Especially after a "long" travel.
But they fucked it up and left a sour taste in my mouth from the get-go. They could have even go with this "What is this 'Sleep' you speak of?" and it'd still work better.
I thought she said “Is Sleepo food?”
"Is mayonnaise an instrument?"
'is this a pigeon?'
The Japanese says,
"X? Nani sore? Oishii no?"
"X? What's that? Does it taste good?"
Just looking out for fellow weebs who can't read Japanese and you didn't give any translation which would confuse anyone who can't read Japanese.
In real-life Japanese, it's a common phrase people use to jokingly admit ignorance.
This show really mystifies me scriptwise. It was clearly written in english, but they wrote it like a first translationpass from japanese. Maybe the only exposure to anime anyone there has was with terrible fansubs and they thought that is just what it is supposed to be.
NOT GONNA LIE,
But I thought that Rosemary never had a brother and that the person was just his dad’s gay boyfriend who he loved because they resembled Rosemary’s mother,
Don’t laugh at me , I just expected this from the show 👌
Same
Would have been my comment IF I HAD NOTICED THAT GUY AT ALL
XD
Her dad told him "Hey, you kind of look like my wife" and the rest is history.
It's weird, did her brother ever get brought up again after that one moment anyways?
Honestly, I am almost glad that this was one of the things Clownfish TV got wrong.
It just would have been weird.
With such agenda-driven writing and casting, it's expected and wouldn't stand out in the rest of the choices.
@@Solanin0803 no, but I guess if they get an (unlikely) second season he would
The opening when Rosemary is going out the door he kinda rolls his eyes, like he was low-key jealous/resentful that she got to go to HG, while he stayed home with thier dad
I'd kinda like a short arc about how as the elder brother he had to take more responsibility after thier mom disappeared, and may have even been invited to HG but stayed home to take care of her and in usual Rosemary fashion she didn't even stop to consider that and just carried on how excited she was to go, and how he's glad she went but still feels bad for not getting to follow in mom's footsteps too
But I know that's too advanced and complicated for the writers of this show...
I always thought the hate around this show was unwarrented or overrated... Now I've finally seen one of these reviews, and holy shit, I feel like a better writer already.
i really hated High Guardian Spice, it was an incredibly boring slog during the first half that turned half decent during the later half, with meh dialogue and eh? animation, it really had nothing going for it, but I'm starting to appreciate not the show, but what its leaving behind, a huge influx of videos that teach everyone what not to do when writing.
It's a great case study for aspiring writers.
At least that’s something it can say it’s good at, it’s good at showing what not what to do.
Even if there can't be conflict in every episode, there at least needs to be conflict in the beginning episodes of a series.
The last half of the series gives me a lot of Tokyo Mew Mew dejavu but somehow makes it worse.
I agree, if the first episode established a central conflict then I think it wouldn't be as bad.
Something I should've commented on before - Rosemary has yet to prove that she belongs in this academy.
Say what you will about Sage and Parsley, but they at least prove something of themselves. Rosemary? She fails at absolutely everything! While we watch Sage put together an antidote, Rose is screwing up a tree pose and getting comically beaten up by a dragon whelp - the same kind of whelp that everyone else, including the physically inferior Snapdragon (demonstrated later), managed to wrestle into submission long ago!
Probably would've been interesting if her clumsiness goes away while she's wielding a sword (or something like a sword), but Episode 3 shows that she's clumsy even with a sword in her hand...
I mean, what a waste, right? Even Ruby showed plenty of combat talent when she was approved to move up to Beacon Academy. The only student there who entered with no talent was Jaune, but his entry application was technically illegal - and even then, he didn't want to fool around like Rosemary did, and worked to improve himself.
(Sorry, only using Beacon arc RWBY for High Guardian Spice comparisons, since there's only one season of the latter, and the Beacon arc is the most similar being the school arc.)
Ya know, that Centaur Teacher is basically flaunting her Privates around a bunch of Children. Now im no Education Expert, but i think thats bad.
I think the centaur teacher is a male (I could be wrong, but you never know). And since you said that the teacher is flaunting his privates, well… Yeah.
I think what perfectly sums up how poorly written this show is, is the fact it's called High guardian spice and none of the main characters are named after spices. They are all named after Herbs.
Apparently the names of the 4 protagonist are from an old folk song.
@@trumann5975 scarborough fair?
Well, I mean, technicaly you can get spices from herbs, so in a way it makes sense.
They are at the start of their Guardian journey and will have to grow and work on themselves to reach their goal. In a way it makes sense.
But I doubt the writers did *those* mental gymnastics lol
It feels like the creators got super attached to the title and characters' names very early on in production, and didn't realize that sometimes you have to edit or remove things you really want to put in your work because it doesn't fit well.
HGS is a study of what not to do when you write a story/fanfic😁
One of the reasons I made this video
Thank you for making this I loved listing to it ad background to draw and you made some very good points I look forward to other episodes:3
No Thanks for listening!! I'll edit that next episode asap!
That's Rosemary's brother? Wow, I have gotten cynical, I've thought this whole time that that was her step-father.
So, I paused at 16:26 because a thought occurred to me. Well, several thoughts have occurred to me by this point, but a couple in particular.
So, my first thought. I'm gonna write it out script style because that fits how I'm looking at it.
[Begin scene]
*Black screen, but thunder rumbles and growls just beyond the blackness. This goes on for a few seconds before lightning flashes and the thunder booms loudly, flashing in to the end of a nightmare. ROSEMARY is in scene, her back to the audience, as we see roots and vines growing around another person, who struggles against it, a sword in her grasp.*
ROSEMARY: Mom!!!!
*ROSEMARY gets up and runs toward her mom, but the distance only ever grows, until all she can do is watch as the vines finally close over her mother's face.
Flash cut to the present. It is DAWN, and everything is peaceful. ROSEMARY is panting, sweating, and out of sorts, wearing some sort of sleepwear and laying in bed, the covers having been thrown off in her sleep.*
ROSEMARY: *to herself* That nightmare again... (Groan the words. Extra points if she throws an arm across her forehead as she huffs out a sigh.)
*ROSEMARY reaches into the neck of her shirt, withdrawing a PENDANT. She rubs her thumb across it, but does not open it. There is a faint knock heard on what can only be a door, and ROSEMARY swiftly stuffs the PENDANT back down her shirt.*
ROSEMARY: C-Come in! (Hesitant. Sell the hesitancy.)
*The door gently opens, and in comes DAD. He pauses for a moment, taking in his daughter's distressed being.*
DAD: .... Is... Everything okay? You don't look so good.
...
Bam. Suddenly, the pendant has meaning, the nightmare is meaningfully placed, and one set of parental figures is well and truly set to have an actual character introduction moment.
And yes. There are descriptors that would also help. As an example, what Rosemary's room is filled with, or if it's completely bare of everything but the essentials.
But that... Is effort best saved for another time.
What more classic way is there than to open a show on a dream sequence?
Since the characters are actually named after herbs and there's no explanation for the guardians, the show should be called "high" or "high herb"🌿
Or maybe "guardian herbs" as well!!
Could be the reason why those megasluts behind the show don't even know what the fuck their writing they were high on drugs
@@Dairobo10 you mean high on herbs
@@r.a.fgattaiguy845 *weed
The show is just Rosemary’s drug trip
Def sucks how they really nail into you how diverse the production team is yet all the screen writers are middle aged white women and most of not all the voice actors, from what I’ve heard, are white. Which wouldn’t be a problem if they didn’t really try to phone home how diverse the production team is.
And then them being like “this show breaks gender norms and stereotypes” but then have sage go on a whole rant to snapdragon about how girls just have a deeper bond and guys could never understand but PLOTTWIST snapdragon does understand but not because this show is here to break gender norms or whatever but because he’s set up to be the transgender character which is coolio yknow. And also another stupid thing, bruh tell me why sage only finally starts to like snapdragon when he’s in his Halloween costume???? AND WHY IS TRANSITION FROM ONE GENDER TO ANOTHER STANGE IN A WORLD WHERE MAGIC AND MONSTERS EXIST WTFFFFFF
AND TRANSFORMATION MAGIC EXIST THERE!
Yeah!?
And how come a cat can transform into a little girl and no one bats an eye but the trans teacher has to explain his circumstances to Rosemary who seems to barely even grasp the concept of "I used to be that, now I'm this".
And how come they couldn't think of better potions or magic to make the process less "I have to take this hrt potion each month or else"
Why ground yourself in reality in a fantasy setting? Why limit yourself?
The writers could've used the second episode to flesh out Parsley, Sage and Amaryllis. E.g.: Parsley was good at blacksmithing, but couldn't use all her potential at home, 'cause her family was doing the regular BS, and she wanted to try the magical one. So, she read a lot about artifacts and was eager to study; during her first lesson a teacher gave them the creativity task (like "i need a flexible dagger with a resistence to ice, and yall can't use the next liquids in the process"), and Parsley manage to do everything much better than her mates, EVEN THO her work wasn't perfect. She also made a lot of mistakes, but she was happy, cause she finally can grow (pun intended).
Sage and Amaryllis were fighting during all day, and when the students were poisoned, they began to compete who would create the antidote faster. And when the teacher praised them, suddenly Amaryllis was the one who said: "Fuck you, we could be dead. We can't trust you, when you poison us the first time we met. I will change my schedule just because I don't want to see you ever again". And when Sage, Parsley and Rosemary discuss this episode, Parsley and Rose are all of a sudden on Amaryllis' side, when Sage calls her "a-hole with no respect", because Sage finally felt powerful, smart and respected during the lesson. And also it can make Sage "a teacher's pet" type, which suits her, in my opinion. It can also explain her sudden shift to new magic: when all the teachers say that new one is better, it's actually, in her opinion, better. With that we can also re-make the scene with cousin Anise: Sage says how she hates her mom for teaching old magic, but Anise protests and says "It was her choice; you make yours, but you shouldn't blame your mom for hers". Yeah, just change the sides, so Anise would look like an adult, and Sage would have a conflict.
And it also will draw a line between Sage and Parsley; the first one wants to be praised for her success, and the last one wants an improvement.
These little changes could make this show interesting. Because stuff happens, but actually, without conflicts and actual relationships.
Something I just noticed, is how the characters often seem to not move, in a way that fits how they talk.
Example.
Episode one (in your video ca 2:39)
Rose talks as if she is imagining some grand adventure and she can’t wait for it to happen in a high energy voice.
How would you imagine someone to talk in such a scenario?
Maybe they would pick up a stick and fight some imaginary foes, while jumping around. Showing that they are completely immersed in their fantasy. Or they grab their friend by the shoulder and point towards the horizon, where their dreams lie, with large hand gestures to emphasize the epicness.
However in HGS, Rose just stands around, almost still. Looking at her friend in a casual way, that would fit better if she asked if her friend remembered to write down homework. As if they dubbed a line over the wrong scene.
Such a basic animation mistake kills the immersion immediately. Because you feel the disconnect between what’s being said and what’s shown. And because the immersion breaks, you notice the other writing issues even more
Yes, the animation and visuals are diluted. I can only think of 1 part that the animation leaves an impression but that was a fight segment.
The creators loved to harp about how diverse the show is (when they're an almost all white staff but ok) but literally like you said: the only thing that's different are the skin tones. I didn't see any proper black hair styles, any Asians, any South Americans, any disabilities, any distinguishable religious groups, any different body types baring Parsley's any... anything...
The most diverse they get are different skintones and different sexualities which most of the characters aren't confirmed to have and we can't see at first glance. As must as diversity can be via skin tone, there are other factors that play too.
Thats a good point, they say its diverse but it is lacking diversity. They need to reap what they sow.
Plus Thyme is a daughter of black characters, yet her only distinguishing feature outside skin tone is her lips, they could've given her a more black hairstyle.
I don’t think so he writers never understand how diversity works. Their definition of diversity is race.
To be honest, when I began high school (this was in September 2001, so a long time ago), most teacher introductions were like that - the class mostly silent, everyone wondering in their heads when can we go home. When you're a teenager, your head is going to be elsewhere most of the time.
Yeah, but they made it so much more awkward and stupid.
As a fellow writer, I should say this show (and Raye himself) lacks a lot of planning and feedback. It's really hard to keep track of all plot holes in a story. You have to read and edit from the beginning a million times and even then there could still be some, so I'm not even going there. But there are simple logic errors since the beginning.
In episode 1, we see portal magic exists, since it was used by the elf and her wife (I forgot their names). So why do that whole travel segment, where the protagonists take like 3 different "vehicles" (I don't know what's the proper word for this in English, since it's not my native language) to get o Lyngarth? Are there a distance limit to the portals? Was it so they could "explore" the world?
Why and how were these students selected? They seem to not even know what a guardian is (does anyone know tho?), so why even bother? They were almost killed by a teacher, does the school not care about their safety? And even if they don't, why would they still want to be students there, since they don't know what the goal of the academy is?
This one isn't really a logic error, it seems more like a lazy writing pretending to be aesthetic: why is Sage's family so blue (from hair to clothes) and Rosemary's so pink? Is it like a clan, where you use different colors to identify yourself and can only have a relationship inside that clan? Is it some sort os bigotry from the characters part? Even aesthetic-wise, this doesn't make the slightest sense to me, since the background obviously didn't go well with the color pallette.
But the icing on the cake is Raye silencing constructive criticism on Twitter. The one's that were like personal attacks I kinda get it, no one wants to be attacked. But then again, there were genuine (and good) advice there, this make it look like he doesn't want to be better at the job he likes, he just want people to watch and nod silently to everything they are shown, which I think can have a bad impact on his career. If you don't want to hear the feedback, maybe try not doing anything at all, I guess.
You bring up a lot of good points, I think I lot of the stuff you mention can be traced back to poor writing organization and adding things for the coolness of it. Like the portal magic being a thing that exists, but the team decided to add these wacky vehicles to show off "look how cool our world is!!!" even though it works against the logic.
The way the writers used these things were so inconsistent, like portals for example: the characters barely use the portals for inconvenient situations like when the MC were trapped in the cave or the sister school was under the attack by a sea dragon. The writers never thought this through while storyboarding, let alone scripting it.
Didn't realize this show just starts. Our two main leads are on there way to the academy with no build up whatsoever. I mean I guess they wanted to avoid main character wakes up from alarm clock opening but that would have been better cause we would have had some idea what Rose and Sage are leaving behind.
The worst sin of this show? The fact that Rosemary’s dad’s head looks like an Amogus
Yeah the fact that Rosemary and Sage's parents all look so similar to their spouses bothers me. Kinda like how Milhouse Van Houten's parents look so similar. Almost like they're siblings or cousins to one another. Also, I don't generally view nitpicks as valid complaints against a game or show's quality, unless there's a LOT to nit-pick. Because at that point, rather than being a few minor problems here and there than can be overlooked, they become a multitude of minor problems in a pattern that becomes not only noticable, but distracting and that makes it hard to focus on anything the show/game is doing right.
Well put!
I was just going to mention Milhouse's parents lol! And you're completely right, it's not nit-picking if it's more than a few minor issues. But when you find one little thing off here, it leads to another and so on. This shows brings nothing new to the table, and there's no excuse in this day and age to not have on-model designs (the occasional off-model look was kind of cute in Steven Universe, but that was probably intentionally done)
Yeah, I noticed that too. It's such lazy character design to make a character's parents look like they could be siblings.
Thank you! That has always been one of my biggest pet peeves for character design, when you could very easily mistake a character's parents for being siblings.
You can tell there are lack of creativity of how genetics works.
If a show punishes you for asking questions, it's probably a bad show
The outro where they jump looks so much better than the rest of the show. The chibi style has so much more personality
Well, fun fact! Turns out they plagiarized that from another anime, as other videos have found out, which is amazing :D /s
@@dapperdecidueye247 I was certain it was outsourced. This is worse. lol
Plagiarisms are everywhere, just depending on the show overall
Imagine if they used the Journey to Lyngarth to put some emphasis on society's reliance on new magic (like, show people using new magic in ways that aren't just for convenience, but even just for full on unnecessary flair) and then later in the season do the reveal of how new magic is what is causing "the rot"
The first episode is supposed to be really exciting and help set up ideas and themes to be used later. Not just a plain "here are the characters. Here are their basic personalities".
Edit: @18:14 is that the only animation director mentioned, because that's a South Korean company that has worked on a lot of stuff (though its very likely [just from how South Korean animation companies tend to be used] that they aren't usually the primary animators for projects and do less important scenes or help during a time crunch). One example being that they co-produced the second season of Rising of the Shield Hero, and they've been involved with a lot of comic book based animations like Justice League, The Batman, 19 episodes of Avatar the Last Airbender, and 1 episode of Teen Titans (according to Wikipedia).
It's the only animation director I found. I could've missed some but the korean studio seems to have done most of the leg work of the animation.
You know that High guardian spice will only get worse since it's being handled by people who see criticism as a form of hate rather than a means to improve.
Which makes it sad because this was apparently someone's passion projects since they were young
The people working on the show are definitely afraid of criticism, and no way would they tell each other "No, that's stupid". Their egos are inflated and kept that way by each other, and will constantly reaffirm one another as if it's empowering. Trapping themselves is a bubble of stupidity.
And nothing is funny because people who are so up their own ass just don't understand humor. Especially feminist.
most of the team are females so yeah they're likely more concerned with ego and feelings because we all know if there will be a lot of drama in the workplace, as a woman my self who has experience working with full female coworkers can assume they can be super toxic and make the job harder. And for this case , I agree with what you said about they're afraid of criticism perhaps the lack of work experience, and how media pampering feminist and woketards too much, calling people who don't like their works are bigots, so they're just "ooh okay that's good enough, oh okay just make this moving PNG for the next scene, or don't worry, anyone who dislike our animation is probably homophobe/transphobe " and yadda yadda afraid to telling their coworkers the corrections or they will hurt their feelings..
I agree the mismanaged themes/topics and stilted dialogue in the show is great evidence of this. They invested time on the agenda rather than the script.
@@yourmother78910 What's funny is that I'm a Latina woman and artist, I'd be kicked out from the writing and art staff because I tend criticize the ideas and designs, cuz I want it to be good, and I call myself an amateur artist and writer, but after years of watching anime and cartoons, I have been observing what works and what doesn't.
But hey, I can always pull the race card on them lmao
@@zeldaprincessgirl100 Beautiful.
I like how this show has the power to connect people and bring new creators just cause it's bad and we're trying to figure it out why. Hope you'll grow up in this plataform.
Thank you, thank you!
Nothing brings people together like mutual disliking of something/someone
WHY ARE YOU SO SMALL??? The video is flawless and you actually have good points! I'm happy with the potential that your channel have
Thanks so much, well it is my first upload. Thanks for watching!
Sages dad looks like he’s about to shotgun a bottle of Soylent and start raving about the upcoming switch releases
I'd say calling this show "mediocrity at it's finest" is doing mediocre shows a disservice. This show isn't "mediocre." It's plain old "bad."
Also about the content warning at the start, and what the show actually contains; I feel like it's a reflection of the writers' maturity. In their eyes this basically PG-13 show has "mature content", implying that they, as adults, still have the mindset of 13 year olds.
TRANSformation magic being taught by a demon 👀 how can they miss the irony in that? 😆
Dude no joke high guardian is like the steven universe love child but with not as good as the original actually a bootleg version of the love child would make more sense
Love child? More like the worst bootleg of Steven Universe
It’s a hate child of Steven universe.
I like how I have at this point watched several reviews abide is about this show and every one has had an entirely different set of things to say about the things they liked and more so hated.
Your video in particular is asking questions some of the other reviews scarcely touched on while also making suggestions on things that could have been done differently to improves the show or scenes.
Nice.
5:32 As a Background Character Buff, you are right…they could have focused on Aster, Amaryllis, Snapdragon, Parnell, Slime Boy, and Cal. Then called it a day on that part.
Something tells me we would have known about the other…30? 40? 50 Students in that part of the intro?
Other Anime can pull that part off much better.
Yeah, it makes a lot more sense to put the whole ensemble of dozens of side characters in the opening for later seasons rather than the first season. Most anime with large ensemble casts or a villain-of-the-week format where you have a new character introduced each episode don't even show *that* many characters in the first season's opening, because the first season isn't enough time to introduce 50-some-odd side characters, let alone develop them or make us care about them.
6:26 this is probably the best art in the entire show #bringbackthedislikes
There's a browser extension that brings back dislikes, but I agree bring them back!
sometimes its amazing how a bad show can bring so many people together in critique. I love finding new channels like this.
36:10- to protect...
to protect...
You mean...
to protect the world from devastation
to unite all peoples within our nation
to denounce the evils of truth and love
to extend our reach to the stars above
jessie...(the old one)
james...(the middle aged one)
team rocket blast off at the speed of light
surrender now or prepare to fight
meowth, that's right (the young one)
Well there is three of them, so it fits perfectly
Motto breakdown
to protect the world from devastation
(this is what guardians should do)
to unite all peoples within our nation
(uniting lyngarth as one)
to denounce the evils of truth and love
(the only out of place line, truth and love here probably means LGBT/transrights, idk)
to extend our reach to the stars above
(it means missionaries, extending their help over to other countries)
jessie...
(the old one, has the attitude of jessie)
james...
(the middle aged one, has the attitude of james)
team rocket blast off at the speed of light
(whenever there is a need, the guardians will be at the battlefield like the speed of light)
surrender now or prepare to fight
(ordering all their enemies to surrender with least the resistance, or face the guardians in all their might)
meowth, that's right
(the young one, even more validation)
Why is it that if you tweak the team rocket motto a little, it feels like a stronger and more impactful guardian vow.
I think I'll steal this for an edit, it's too good to pass up lol! Ofc with due credit
@@trumann5975 sure go ahead :)
Omg I think the truth and love really made sense in this context. Ahaha that's the perfect guardian vows! XD simple and straight to the point
They put all their budget into the sakuga for the fight scene in episode 9.
God, is Rosemary's voice f*cking *E A R R A P E* to hear. . .
I never get tired of people tearing this show apart
This is really your first video? Damn, this is really some high production, good job on that bro. Love the first episode, just kinda finished up your fourth one, and I hope you make more content in the future
These live action sprites are hittin different, in the best way possible. Keep up these amazing videos!
23:10 - 23:20 How do they know what a blowtorche or flamethrowers are? Wouldn't they use fire magic
I mean they have those water magic gloves instead of a fire extinguisher that anyone can use in the last episode
What is welding and metal working like in this world is they have that stuff?
I can't help but compare this to the *vastly* superior "Wizard City" chapter of Adventure Time: Distant Lands. Because they actually wrote a really good, dark story that wasn't predictable.
If you saw the one Rayetoons as Raye Rodriguez did of this series as a concept, you'd know that this show would be about as interesting and well written as a wet rock.
the very concept of the special school is narccisistic safe place fantasy for the hilarious living stereotypes that made this
Yeah. Sure, specialized high schools for gifted kids or kids planning to go into a certain career do exist IRL and are a common setting in anime, but the show just being like "You're here because you're ☆☆☆special☆☆☆ uwu" without any explanation as to why the characters were accepted kills the whole point of it being an elite school. It really does seem more like a self-insert fantasy for the writers to pat themselves on the back for being so ☆☆☆special☆☆☆. Usually in anime where the characters are students at an elite school, it explains why the students got accepted. But other than Parsley or Sage, I don't get why any of the other characters got in...
I like your video is so much fun listen to your prospective, opinion and ideas about the show. you make a really good analysis to the story and I love your advice at the end of the video make me motivate to write again and complete my project, I hope you continue giving good advice about writing and what to do and not to do.
I watched A lot of video about the show even though I didn't watch the show, that why I see my opinion come from other people opinion and perspective (like you), I see the the story have an interesting idea it can be good if just give it a time and and team that care about story and deliver rather than a agenda and propaganda.
Thanks! Best of luck in your future projects!
@@trumann5975 thanks waiting part 2 don't be late.
Looks like the only thing that happened in the writers room was people emotionally affirming each other.
Upon reflection, I can see some ways the ideas in these 2 episodes could have worked. Episode one arguably has the most world building. I especially like that zoom out of the giant, and the travel montage, while dragged out, did have a bit of charm in seeing all these modes of transportation. Personally I would have made episode one like Little Witch Academia, where the first episode is just getting to school, and simply getting there is the conflict. It would also help to flesh out Rosemary and Sage.
The whole guardian vow thing both does and doesn't make sense. I'd like to think it could be one of those weird assignments where you write a future letter to yourself, and at graduation you go back and see how you've changed. So maybe the vow is supposed to be like that, and then at graduation many seasons later, the characters are arced out enough to make serious vows based on their growth and experience.
I love snapdragon but they mess him and his arc up, by suggesting he's trans when that wasn't the part of his arc he just wanted to be a feminine Male
I think it's more than evident that snap's character probably existed solely to put in a character pre-transition for Caraway to lecture trans stuff too.
@@trumann5975 Very poorly done. Due to probably the worst setting this would work in. Since magic would have made swapping genders a common and non-omg thing. I mean, the show is at least consistent in that area. Nothing has any proper explanation or rules. Harry Potter gave things reason. Why do they use a train. When the world is magic. Because even second year students can screw up on the fireplace teleporting magic. So it's easier for them to just walk through a hidden door. And have a train drive them to Hogwartz. Also the fireplace powder has a space limit. So baggage etc. wouldn't fit. They put in limitations and conventional things to work within the magic world right. Not to mention. The fireplace teleporting is restricted to locations. VS they can just teleport anywhere. This avoids a plot hole.
The two ladies in spice can make a portal to that bed room. Does that power have a distance limit? Does it drain you? If no to those. Than why do trains exist? They even use a broom at some point. Why didn't they just fly the whole way? This is where a limitation would have benefited. Picture pilot episode. They're suppose to take the train etc. But Rosemary makes them use the broom. Sage warns them we can't fly on this forever. Our magic could run out. And will be stranded. That could have been the conflict. The two leads argue, go, they screw up. Get stuck in a dangerous situation. You can than introduce Parsely. Because their broom broke and need rescuing. Parsley could be training nearby. Because she's new to blacksmithing. Her family forces her to train far away from the home. So she doesn't burn it down. And hears their screams. This sets up their personalities, and gives us some action. You could than have their families in flashback's. Showing Rosemary doing dangerous things. Because she saw her mother doing things. And she wants to prove she's like her.
@@rangerreview1780
Once again random youtube comments put more thought into the show than the creators.
Given that there are several formulas that underlie almost all human stories and that by following some of those patternsor change others in some ways, and most people will enjoy them, one can most DEFINITIVELY say that there are objectively BAD stories and writing.
23:15 "because he was dragon his nuts" would have unironically been a better pun
I can already tell you'll be big one day on youtube! I love watching people make points about HGS because people like me can learn from it. I love your video keep up the good work!
I appreciate that! Glad you got something from it!
rosemarys brother looks hot ngl, like tomida waka
1000% would want him to have more screentime
So what you are saying is "the cake is a lie!" LOL old-school on that one
I'm gonna start my notes on how I'd improve this show in the comments cuz this is the first 'play by play' I've seen that I can use for this sooo
Episode one: We spend longer with the family, longer in town, showing Rose training against the local guardians. She gets in trouble, taking on a fight that's too big for her, and Sage uses old magic to save her from any serious injuries, but the locket is broken (much worse than it was broken in the show. Like it's cracked in half, keeping it from closing, but there's fracturing along the outside and the inner picture is dirty from hitting the ground). Rose looks ready to cry seeing it break, and Sage comes over, ready to give a friendly 'quit getting into fights I need to save you from' lecture but stops seeing the necklace broke. She offers a word of comfort and says 'maybe there's someone in [whatever the town they were going to is named] who can fix it?'. Rose nods and suppresses her feelings, acting stoic and saying something like 'yeah! There's so many amazing metalworkers in [town] I bet I can get it repaired in no time!" before Rose pauses and goes "you used new magic...? Are you sure about that.. you know what your mom says about it." Sage says "it's fine. It saved you, after all!" . Their parents come to collect them and take them to the train station and we get, for Rose, lines like "Be careful about getting in too many fights! We know you're a fighter, but please, be safe." and "Mom would be proud if she could see you, and we know she'll be proud of you when she comes home." Sage gets "Be careful of that New Magic, it's [something dangerous about new magic, probably something like 'it doesn't respect the old ways! Using it kills living things!]" and "I love you honey, remember to keep practicing your sigils surrounded by nature, so if you mess up like you did last time, nature will protect you!" Giving exposition about new and old magic. Then both are handed their weapons (Rosemary gets her mom's sword, which was promised to her if she could prove she could use it, and Sage gets her first staff, something that parents make when their child is ready to begin channeling strong magic) and told who they're looking for in town. They board the train, and Rose pulls out the broken locket, looking down at it sadly. Sage tries to fix it with magic but only breaks it further and gives an apologetic look, but before she can say anything, Rose puts on a brave face and says 'It's okay. We'll find someone to fix it." As the train leaves the station, it starts winding up the mountain, and you see just how tiny the hometown is. Rose and Sage look to each other, then to the town, wide eyed, before looking to each other and grinning and they start making comments and jokes about being heroes from a small town, about bringing honor and notoriety to their home, and about how they're ready for bigger adventures. During the train ride, Rose hears someone talking about their metalsmithing business, and how 'if only someone could get me [x] then I'd do anything for them!!" and steals a witch's broom to fly off, determined to get her locket fixed. Sage calls out before stealing one too and following. They get the item and return only for the metal smith to say "This isn't even worth repairing. Just buy a new one." and Rose argues, with Sage stepping in to provide some more level headed arguments for her friend. They get kicked off the train for starting a fight, but they get to keep the brooms. Their luggage doesn't come with, as Sage realizes, so she makes Rose turn back and they meet up with the train. It drops them off at the train station nearest the school, and the aunts are waiting there and pick them up, worried about why they weren't on the train. Rose struggles to lie, being too honorable and knightly, so Sage takes up the lie, voice shaky and stuttery (she's also bad at lying but at least she CAN do it), and explains like "Oh we just wanted some fresh air!". They get to their place and we get a bit of exposition when we see luggage in the place like "[Elf Aunt] is having to go to the forest to try to deal with something there." and "I have to go home. I can feel the trees and the source of all elven lives dying, and... Well, that's enough darkness for you two. You're both still novice guardians, you should focus on your schooling!" and so they have a family moment, like a dinner, before going to bed. Rose has a nightmare still, but it's about how her mom said something about going to fight some 'big darkness' before she disappeared, and how she's terrified she's going to lose her aunt that way too. She wakes up and hears voices. She grabs her sword and sneaks into the living room and hears several of the teachers talking with the aunts, giving more exposition about what is happening with the elven woods. Rose gasps, and they stop, looking towards her. She quickly retreats, and once the adults have confirmed she's 'asleep' she wakes Sage and explains what she heard. Sage gives some sort of potential exposition like "my mom says [and then something to show Sage's mom or other family member is also in danger, probably because Sage's mom is working in the elven woods as an old magic expert]..." and Rose says "We have to help!" and sage responds with "Then we better become guardian's soon! We need to get stronger to help our family!" ANNND END CREDITS.
Episode two: It starts off with them going to school and they get into that caravan, being driven all the way to school, where they explore the grounds a bit and, upon seeing the smithy, meet Parsley, who lives on the grounds with her father, who is a blacksmith for the three lines of courses (blacksmithing is an apprenticeship that he teaches with the school's approval, and he has Parsley and perhaps one other of his children as his two apprentices) and they ask her dad to fix the locket. He, too, refuses, and Rose and Sage both look so dejected Parsley offers to try. They thank her and go to their dorm, expressing how it's bigger than both of their rooms. They unpack, and we get some character exposition between the two, showing their friendship and main concerns. They are summoned to the auditorium via building wide announcement, where the three women (Who represent the Maiden Mother Crone, an important goddess / trio of goddesses to pagans and no one can change my mind) explain what guardians are, and how not only each guardian is sworn to protect the nation and it's people, to uphold balance within the world and to safeguard all that is sacred, but how they will add something additional to their vows, such as "I will never swing my blade without just cause" and "I will never use my magic to draw blood from those who do not wish it upon themselves" other honorable statements (it can be anything, as long as it's important to the character and within the previously set boundaries of the standard part of the vow.) The vows are meant to be built up so that when they graduate, they will know what they wish to do in life beyond 'be good guy, do good' and 2nd and especially 3rd year kids will have apprentice ships where they learn how to better fufill their personalized vow. There, we see both Thyme, who is standing in the background and gets a 'they look scary' from Rose / Sage, and then they see Parsley, who wants to learn to fight. They go to the ethics class, where someone walks in and they assume they're the teacher, but no they draw a massive summoning circle and you get the demon teacher, who's voice they had heard in episode one, and SHE'S HOT OKAY SHE'S GONNA BE HOT I NEED TO ADD THIS, and while she is summoned everyone is like panicked and several people draw weapons, but she comes in and introduces herself like "I am professer [name], and I'll be your ethics teacher~" she talks about trasfiguration, doing the example with the two rats / spikey boys, and it's a lesson about balance, and she brings it back to 'you need to learn to balance your beliefs. If they contradict, and they will, you will need to learn to find a balance. A third option, a compromise... anything to protect both values. If one must be compromised, you will need to know how to weigh which one is more important, and that, students, is what I'm here to teach~". Snapdragon makes a snarky comment as he draws his sword like "Why is a demon teaching ethics? Shouldn't you be out terrorizing babies or stepping on puppies?" and before the teacher can argue, Rose draws a weapon too, ready to fight her. The teacher allows both to attack her (Though they try to work together they keep getting in each other's ways) before stepping away. Some calls out (I am not letting Sage and Rose share this class period) calls out "You're destroying the room!" midway through the 'fight' and Rose stops, looking around and seeing students are scared OF HER (and Snapdragon). Snapdragon attacks, almost hitting a student before Rose catches his blade and throws him back from the student. He turns, ready to attack her too, but she places her sword over his chest and says 'wait.' then turns to the teacher and asks 'why is a demon a teacher?' and she explains all of it and then smiles and says "I commend you for ceasing your attacks~" then turns to the class. "This student came to the right conclusion. Often times, problems can be solved with your words, not your swords." She then carefully takes snap's sword. "Though often times, if a problem can't be solved with words, it is best to draw your sword and end it quickly, before someone gets hurt." She looks to the student he had just attacked, then to him pointedly, earning a small, annoyed 'sorry' from him before he sits back down. She uses old magic to fix the classroom (it's revealed there's a massive spell like on the ceiling to repair the room because she always starts a semester / schoolyear with students attacking her and she got tired of drawing new sigils each time). Cut to Parsley, trying to figure out how to repair the locket. It's a short scene, just her thinking and shows her punching a boxing bag as she thinks before she gets the idea how to fix it and she grins and runs off. Cut to the next class, with Caraway. He has a much more normal introduction (not just straight being summoned). He introduces himself and Sage and Amaryllis both raise their hands and get into like a 'b1tch off' trying to prove who knows more. Caraway stops them with two sigils over their face. He gives more exposition for New Magic and Old Magic, talking again about balance between the two and explaining in a less biased way what both are, correcting both Amaryllis and Sage on places where their biases come through. You get a bit more exposition in the background of Caraway teaching while Amaryllis and Sage form their rivalry. Cut to the next class with the nb centaur (I refuse to admit that character is a BINARY person I mean just look at em). Which has a more biased perceptive of new magic and Amaryllis being a bully. Sage presses down and mutters 'I use new magic too...' and Amaryllis makes a snarky remark about how old magic is weak and deserves to die. Back in the dorm during freetime (They do share that period) they talk about the two bullies they faced and hype each other up, like "Yeah Rose you're a great fighter, you got that fighting instinct from your mom" and "YEAH! AND I BET YOU'LL FIND A WAY TO USE BOTH OLD AND NEW MAGIC AND PROVE EVERYONE WRONG!!" "YEAH I'LL DO THAT- Wait!!! I Can do that!! That'll be my vow!! I'll vow to work towards unifying old and new magic!" "YEAH, AND I'LL VOW-... I'll vow...?" "Don't worry. You'll find your vow!" and it shows their friendship and shows Rosemary needs to find herself while Sage is going to bring both sides of her magic closer! Sage goes to the last class, One I'll call "Potions" where they are all given poison tea. Sage and Amaryllis are sat next to each other and both begin to doubt the tea like based of it's color or scent and they argue over it but both end up concluding 'this is poisoned." and dump their cups. As they do, a student like throws up or collapses, showing they did get poisoned. Everyone freaks out, but the teacher remains where she is. The class go to help the poisoned student (no one else drank enough tea yet to get the effects of poison). As they do, they notice the student was a disabled student (For diversity). Sage manages to save the student while Amaryllis takes control and checks on the remaining students, and class continues on as normal. Later, at like dinner, Parsley runs up to them, having semi repaired to locket. The break couldn't be fully fixed, so it now has a golden scar across it's back. She asks like "What's so important about the locket anyways? It's just cheesecake." and Rose laughs and goes "Oh, I just really like cheesecake!" and puts the locket back on, but later that night, you see her take the picture out and look at her mom and say "I'll find you one day. I promise." and sage comes over and leans on her shoulder and says "We'll find her, together. We're friends, afterall." And Rose nods, and as the episode closes, it zooms in on something in the picture that foreshadows the mother turning against the country and the guardians.
@@tayloradams3993 Good thing you actually care about your products
It feels like this show was made by unimaginative adults with the maturity and storytelling ability of children, and that's why it comes across as a terrible kids' show that isn't meant for kids.
Couldn't sum it up better than that!
you're not even really sure who this is even meant for.
29:16 it's college. It's just college, especially now a days.
Very true
5:39 Comparing JoJo to this trash of a Crunchyroll show is a no contest. That's like comparing the Mona Lisa to some doodle you find in pre-school.
True Jojo was just on my mind at the moment, I should've called upon another school fantasy series.
@@trumann5975 Maybe Little Witch Academia or The Owl House would've worked.
I just realized, Episode one had 3 writers... most of the episode was them riding on various forms of transportation.
Somehow I feel like I could write a really good fanfic about HGS and probably make the characters a lot better... and probably expand the world building and lore by making up my own stuff within the show's standards (but you know do it better).
28:53 if you want me to be honest, this is what my business class is like most of the time. The teacher will literally speak to us and we wouldn’t say a word 😅
Obviously there was still those one or two ppl who had guts to speak up
And I expect that more or less with adults(I'm assuming your an adult at the time, correct me if I'm wrong) but not starry eyed children who are chasing their dreams.
@@trumann5975 college, but yeah you still have a point tho
Harry Potter had a nice opening, you see him brought to the Dursleys, him living there, the invitation letters, and only then the trip really begins. In all that you learn a lot about his life and how he is.
This opening?
What opening...
The question: What does this scene do? Was never asked!
Man love this series already, and I just saw part 2, excellent job
Thanks for watching!
@@trumann5975 Played your game, its fun.
@@3rebella Thank you, Thank you! Glad you got enjoyment out of it!
Honestly, what would’ve been more interesting based on the first episode (and I’ve never watched HGS) would’ve been is this was a MG coming-of-age show. Rosemary could’ve gone to the school since it would allow her to search for her parents (who in this idea were teachers who mysteriously vanished on school grounds).
In the first episode, Rose would’ve wanted to explore/gather clues since she is naturally gifted at school while her friend wants to study/train. However, Rose constantly gets distracted during her search due to her child-ish personality.
The next day, there is a test which Rose fails and she worries that she will flunk out. She also recalls how she has no leads on her parents in her notes. These two reminders makes her realize that she has a lot of maturing to do.
Over the course of the season, Rose could practice using her magic on-screen, work hard, and try to be more mature in balancing school all the while looking for her mother.
"This was meant for adults."
What types of adults?
"The ones on a list."
This should be interesting. People who posting clips and telling me it's bad, but without context, I don't really see it. I wanna know WHY it's bad.
Yea I wanted to add context and go scene by scene to discuss it's problems. I didn't want to make another it's a bad show without proper context.
sooooo new video? this is pretty good. You got potential.
Thank you!
@@trumann5975 part 2 then?
My only problem with the Azumanga Daioh reference in the ending is that it makes me wish I was watching that instead of trash like HGS
Wait... so Raye now claims this is "not anime", but yet they tried so hard to make it an anime to the point of copying the Azumanga Daioh ending sequence?
How does Parasyte is the gory anime in existence and yet it's not given the same treatment?
the worst thing is given the premise of the story this had so much potential if it had been given to someone actually competent! that is probably the biggest thing they did wrong.
Upp untill now I thought that chekhov's gun only applied to weapons/threats
Unless Trumann deliberately dropped it, I felt there's a _very_ strong "Old magic vs. New magic" thing, and going off of the info here alone- I have *zero* clue what's the difference between the two
I tried to keep it all in context. As far as the debate between the two I didn't cut much out. IMO it's a sloppy magic system.
@@trumann5975 so the magic system and Sage's main character arc is basically introduced as:
"In this school, we use Magic 10"
Sage: "but mom told me to use Magic 98!"
@@Konpekikaminari
Pretty much.
Wouldn’t even call this mediocrity. Just plain terrible and incompetent
Is there a reason Parsley (dwarf girl) is being voiced in a manner an adult woman would voice a male child or androgynous adult?
Reis must be really early on in his transition if that's the voice he did for Carroway. Maybe not taking any testosterone. Just sounds like a woman pitching her voice waaay down. Julia Demita did more convincing male voices in the 90s/00s.
"What you give to the universe, comes back to you!" 😂
Episode 1(assuming you haven't seen the latter episodes first): Destroy Rosemary and Sages views on guardians. Since they're always together the scenario will be like that too.
Someone Kick Rosemary ass physically and Sage mentally.
Remove the red car part. Have them walk through the forest instead. In said forest they meet someone.
Person asks: hey, you training to become guardians?
Rosemary (because of her personality showed so far in this episode) doesn't hesitate to say "yes". Sage is cautious but with her old magic and Rosemary sword, they'll be safe. Right?
After they 2 finish talking the person defeats rosemary in a flash. Sage can't process it. The person walks up to Sage and asks the same question. Sage pees herself and the person walks away assuming her answer but says "Guardians are a bad spice for Mercenaries y'know."
Reasons for scene:Dark tone introduced. Tells a little bit about the world and one of things guardians do. The dangers of being a guardian.
I love it! Introducing stakes and setting the tone in the first episode is pivotal for a fantasy show!
Nah, the writers would never go for something like that.
As I see all this show is about "lets live in the infantile world without any rules, any struggle, any hard learning, any real conflicts". Every time they are facing some aspect of life where you are gonna fail hard, or struggle, or must sacrifice something and face hardships they are just skipping it. For example this school is supposed to be something "high", like a high education in my country, which IS a hell, frustration, and a very hard thing to fail at and being kicked off. VERY easy. And writers are "oh lets everything would be fun and games" but it would be much better if it is a very hard education AND a fun stuff inside of it, so it would have humor AND a stakes.
The only thing "High" about this show is everyone making it.
I mean, I would certainly hold songs to a high standard when they want to consider it to be high art of anime-style and thus automatically invite comparison with basically anything.
Poor singing aside tho, yeah. This ain't it, chief. Especially with whatever the scene at 14:33 is. "Yeah, one of the mainduo almost just killed someone. Let's make that random girl join the team later!" One of the weirdest accidential meetings between characters I have ever seen.
I personally think of how I would completely change it to fix it from time to time. Like, chapter 1 of my version would be about the duo in the past where they are established and meet(Spoilers, Rose is an Orphan who has nothing from her family except the sword in this concept. That is why she knows nothing about her mother or guardians. Instead of her just being dumb like this here.). chapter2 is the equivalent of this episode 1 where they run away from their home and travel to the city where they intend to enroll into the academy. Parsley would get a proper plot where her wishes directly contradict with her family, so she just leaves(Which would later come back) and there at some point would be a fifth girl in the series that is the typical antagonistic one who eventually joins. I have no idea at the moment how I would factor Thyme into this at the moment, but there surely is some way to do it.
I actually really should write this out at some point, because I want to know if my ideas on it are actually as cool as I personally think. But my laziness and being a mediocre writer who has no idea how to get from point A to B and pace things(Though this doesn't know how to do it either, evidently) really hinders it.
I’d be willing to help you even though I’ve got similar problems hahaaah
All the characters look and act as if they have negative intellect stat
Why has no one talked about how the ending music of HGS is similar to the 1st ed of Nichijou !?
holy shit youre right why didnt i realize that earlier lmao. literally shameless
On conflict:
Every episode should have conflict, even if it is something so simple as:
"Johnny and Jill want to get sandwiches, and have strong opinions on where they should get them from."
Sounds basic and low stakes, but with how low the stakes are in HGS a conflict like this would spice it up.
8:11 that's exactly what i was asking my self too .
where are the portals my left .
One of the things I don't like about this show is the beginning. From what I learned writing-wise, in the beginning you're supposed to show what you want the audience to expect, and show at least some sort of conflict or long-term goal for the protagonists depending on if it's an episodic series or extending over an arc.
What I see in the first few episodes is a ham-fisted jumble of ideas that don't summarize to anything interesting because of the lack of clarification. Another irritating thing is the flexible descriptions of the "magics" so that they can make up bull as the show goes on. They don't introduce any rules to ground the limitations of the characters' abilities or any scale of what the characters can do in the story other than "ooh this is a warrior" or "ooh this is a blacksmith".
Also why in the hell is there a blacksmithing class in an academy where these supposed "guardians" are learning how to protect people? (would make sense if they EXPLAINED WHAT IS A GUARDIAN)
At least it would make sense if it was an armor/weapon maintenance lesson, since they would probably be out on the road a lot, considering that someone said they based it off of D&D concepts, or so I heard.
And what annoys me the most is their excuse of "Oh we had a small budget sorry about that". You don't need a good budget to make a good story, you need good writers to make a good story. Sure, animation could be forgiven at least if the budget is small, but they could have at least better writing to make up for it.
I haven't even watched past the intro and I already like the style
I find it funny that the 4 main characters are not even named after spices but herbs. So shouldn't the show be named High Guardian Herb? Cause The writers where clearly high off their rockers when they created this series.
35:40 CatDragon
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