With naming the characters after the herbs from Scarborough Fair, I feel like they really missed out on color coding them by the flowers of the plants they're named for. Rosemary should be a blueish-purple, Sage a lavender, Thyme white, and Parsley green or yellow.
Let it be noted that Rumiko Takahashi, the creator of Inu-Yasha, a woman in her 60s, is still at the top of her a-game, draws for hours on end, scripts for hours on end, and storyboards for six hours, does all of her housework BY HERSELF, and is one of the highest grossing mangakas still TODAY. The making a big deal out of an entire show being made by women is absolutely fuckin' laughable.
A magical girl cooking show would be a pretty cool idea for an anime ngl. Tbh I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed if Crunchyroll didn't use diversity as a selling point instead of creating something...y'know...interesting.
Their names aren't even spices, they're herbs I know this because I use them time to time, specifically rosemary and sage, both of them are considered herbs
lowkey there's not a huge difference between most spices and other herbs, just that spices are... a special subsection for some reason? The biggest I've found is probably that herbs don't tend to murder you when you use too much.
THIS! *FUCKINGTHIS!* Straight up no one else in my friend circle gets it! This is the epitome of lazy writing, hey we gonna name this High Guardian Spice, what should we name our main cast? And some dumb ass decides to go with ROSE AND SAGE!
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 a good way to differ between a spice and a herb is that herbs often are plants (such as Sage, Rosemary or Thyme) that you add to a dish, such as adding Bayleaf to Marinara sauce. Spices are usually things like nuts and seeds ground up into a powder and used within dishes (such as Pepper, Paprika, Cayenne, Ground Cinnamon)
@@pablocruz5613 bruh, you clearly have never cooked chinese dishes XP spices are used in chinese dishes all the time, in whole. rarely are they ground up...
"I just really like mutilating my characters apparently." Every amateur level writer who loves making OCs would definitely feel this sentence. I should know, I'm one of them.
Yeah... They've been through some shité... *Flashbacks to both of them developing long term broken heart syndrome (a temporary heart condition caused by things like emotional stress, usually it isn't necessarily too serious and you can usually recover fairly easily but uh...let's just say trying to hide this kind of thing while appearing to be perfectly fine can kind of make things a bit more serious at times...) AFTER at least maybe 10+ years of major trauma followed by them essentially psychologically torturing themselves for about six years, one of them having an entire mental crisis due to accidentally hurting one of her friends by standing up for someone who used to be an enemy and then not knowing who to side with, the time they died at least three times in their backstory only to be reincarnated (with all of their memories) to be with their younger brother (who's immortal), the number of times that their parents have been killed (usually in front of them, at least once THEY were the ones who killed them without knowing who they were at the time, and at least once the people who adopted them ALSO were killed later on...as well as everyone else in the village...so uh... special mention goes to those moments...), and several other moments* .... I mean....at least while I may royally screw them up psychologically I'm a decent enough human being to make sure that they don't _STAY_ that way and make it so that they always have at least one person keeping them from going completely overboard.... Not that that worked out very well in the first case since he's the reason they got broken heart syndrome in the first place....or in the case where they died three times because they died each time while protecting said brother (who wouldn't have died anyway but would still feel the pain) but still.... I'm a horrible person....
Mention of uhh injuries and death and stuff I made this one specific oc of mine almost died in a car crash, have a fucked up love life, lost his daughters and divorced with his wife and almost go blind Some of my mutuals said I'm a sadist but that's just the beginning
@@rawlicious3790 I love how my first thought was "That's not that bad I've done way worse" then I saw your last line and was just like "Oh....well my point still stands."
It makes sense for the deer themed character to have vitiligo. Deer are prey animals who rely on camouflage for survival, and the vitiligo is reminiscent of the spots on a fawn, which are there to mimic the way sunlight filters through leaves in a forest. The vitiligo on Thyme could easily be justified as an evolutionary trait her people developed for survival, as it would help them blend into their environment.
I love love LOVE LOVE your inclusion of bigger, more pronounced boots in your designs. Its such a retro fantasy design you see in things like 80s-90s RPGs and European comic works (Asterix comes to mind), and its my favorite detail in any fantasy design. Floppy boots are the best boots
I like you actually added different condition make sense for the characters. .I tried watching Dragon Prince, but the fact one of the generals was deaf was kinda dumb, hearing is very important in battle. If she were a lone mute fighter that would have been better, but a general needs to hear and communicate. I like not only when diversity makes sense but also when it adds to the story while not shoved in your face. Zuko’s scar being a good example.
oh my stars i LOVED the asterix and obelix comics as a child! i really like it when artists add little meaningful detail in their work, it makes it all the more unique
It’s always sad to see creators focus so much on being inclusive that they forget what people actually want to see in a show. I would rather watch Rosemary dig through the history of her family and discover what happened to her mother over anything she does in the series.
I feel like it’s more sexist to deliberately try to bring diversity to a workplace,as a gay it just feels weird when a company forcefully puts in gay or trans characters just to be diverse
@@cinnamon4ada7 I think it’s called queerbaiting, companies or shows tease Lgbt viewers with “oooh, gay character? you guys wanna watch this, right?” and then in the actual show it either is. VERY poorly done or just never ends up happening at all - just implied that hey, this dude might be gay, we won’t actually include it though.
@@lifewithkids5231 if I had a penny for every book, TV show etc which promised us "the FIRST EVER openly gay character" (who is probably just there to exposition dump about how much their life sucks and then never do anything again) I'd probably be rich 💀
@@cinnamon4ada7 As someone who is straight, I agree with you! Diversity should be handled naturally, be it ethnicity or sexual orientation. Shows back in the day based on TOYS for one thing can handle that- G.I. Joe is a good example with the vast diversity the Joes and Cobra have going on for them, like G.I. Joe having members who are Black, Asian, Hispanic, Latin, Irish, Native American, and all walks of life especially with the expansion of Joes outside of the US as well
Top things to take in this video: -Not to overdose your anime trailers with “Diversity” and “Representation” -Not to underpay your animators -Not to bore Odd (Hey! Are we related? I’m Odd too) -Not to blur lines between the Oriental and American styles -Try out better colors and designs OTHER than tropes -Not to let Odd drink 2 in the morning
No offense, but while I got what you meant, I feel like you could maybe use a better word than “oriental” to describe Asian animation styles, the word has a lot of history of being used to exotify Asian culture
tbh, style fusion can work: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt is an excellent example of Western and Japanese animation style fusion, using the strengths of both to create something that looked cool The bold shapes and simple designs of UPA, 90s and 00s American cartoons, plus the flashy action boarding and animation style of Gainax at the time
@@lindseylindsey9200 problem with saying just Asian is its confusing since Asia also includes India. Personally saying South east Asian does the trick for "oriental" countries (sorry for word usage can't think of better term) and then for Indians, South Asia works lol. Idk it always irks me that people literally forget India exists as part of Asia lol everyone always thinks of the other Asians. Also not being rude I just find these terms help a lot!
The prosthetics on Sage gives off a Full Metal Alchemist vibe, which is good. During the show, she could upgrade it (like a weapon) or creatively use it in battle.
Or instead of the prostetic being made of wood and vines its a prostetic made of Bone and Chitin. Make the material usage more creative. Plus with bone and Chitin it would be less flammable which would be a plus and give more of a balance for her if it's enchanted to work like a normal limb.
@@beastmaster0934 I thought of that because if you want unique characters think of more esoteric solutions. Plus if it was a wooden leg it could be mistaken for a boot so make it stand out a little more.
They are trying so hard to make it look progressive but it's not possible. It's only possible if racism, sexism, and LGBTQ+ hatred is in the world there otherwise the whole progressiveness is unnoticeable because it's normal. It goes into the flow with stuff that aren't in the minority. For example having a dark skin coloured people in a show with other skin coloured people makes it look more natural than if you put 1 black person because representation. It surely gives more attention to the character because it's the only one who is black. Same if we reversed it. Which is a way to actually focus on the progression, but it shows that it isn't natural.
On an unrelated note, at least they show a bit more personality than the Deadly Six from Sonic Lost World, but I'd prefer those bland villains than the HGS characters.
@@witchplease9695 Eh not people like me. And that's assumption you made. The reason why it is like that is because most people were taught that the default is white. So blame the parents and blame the fact of history. We only can change the now to not tell children that the default is white. And tbh the default imo is tan. Tan is between white and black so it could become more darker or more whiter. That's how I see it as it's perfectly in the middle too
Apparently from what I gathered from clips of this "show", Sage lived in the countryside of her home island and was taught the ways of "old magic". A style of magic that is more traditional (proper knowledge of spell symbols, incantations and how to channel elements from the earth) and is forbidden to learn "new magic" (armor, weapons and items that have magic installed inside them like the magic items from Danmachi). In a way Sage plays a double meaning, Sage being a pun for the "spice" theme and Sages being hermits who avoid modern technologies and learn to harness the power of nature as well as appreciate the beauty of it. Though I'm probably just give this show too much credit.
Yeah, I also think that her design in this show works pretty well with her character. It's not just "bland Halloween witch costume", I think of it more like a Puritan style of dressing (on which the witch trope has been based), which is very modest and bland on purpose, to not draw attention, to express humbleness, to be practical rather than attractive. It also fits Sage's character, considering that she's more introvert, shy, always nice and kind to everyone, very traditional (you know, the Old Magic stuff) etc. Her design, ironically, makes her stand out more when she's surrounded with characters wearing wacky costumes, by contrast. It also draws more attention to her face (which I find kind of cute) and her hair (which has a rather intense blue colour). Sure, they might have added some little details here and there to make it more interesting, and yet still not too much "in your face", but I can't complain, I like what I get.
Parsley has like 12 siblings. It makes sense to make her a Tiefling with dnd tropes and how their demonic parents often sire a lot of tieflings into existence.
Yeah, your designs offer way more variety, diversity, and character than what the actual show delivered. Like... It's not even a contest. I want to see a show more about these versions.
Wow someone really knows nothing about design. The shows design are basic but these are cluttered and overdetailed. Rosemary is the only decent one and after that it goes off the rails hard
@@whycantijusthaveausernameo3993 Yeah, because I NEVER seen a show/anime with detailed designs. Ejem Madoka Magica, Magia Record,One Punch Man, Monster high, Ever After High(or something like that), Fullmetal Alchemist, south park (secondary characters), etc. (Sorry for my bad english) Edit: The designs aren't even difficult or detailed, it has the style of Magia Record mix with Sailor Moon.
Well, Saitama might be. But peeps like Genos or some of the monsters certainly aren’t lol. But yeah, so much visual appeal packed into an OP egg of a man. It just works.
Why did my brain came up with the idea that the bakery is to help the characters to over come they're troubles? Like, from what I noticed Rosemary's mom "died" in front of her, so (going on a whim) it's likely she got PTSD or some for of trauma. And Sage being a person with disabilities can lead to things like depression, anxiety(specifically social anxiety), and maybe some bad memories with bullies. Also! I know that not all people with disabilities dont have depression or anxiety but I would think that Sage is constantly surrounded with "normal" people, and her prosthetics and scars may lead people to think shes incapable in doing magic which also doesnt help with her anxiety. But that just what my brain came up with and just want to share.
@@OddityIllustrations I'm gonna be honest the whole making a business as therapy idea was based on my clown ocs. ^^|| They're twins that have a really bad childhood so to overcome the bad memories and possible anxiety one of the twins present the idea of them being clowns to their therapist. The therapist agrees and ever sense they help children to overcome their fears of clowns and the children helps them to overcome their past. Oh my word, what if the crew does the baking lessons with children! It would be pretty adorable and it can be actual recipes! And it can help with some of the character's anxiety!
@@OddityIllustrations Well hey, the good news is you could probably make an AU of this and it qpuld be better than the show cause from what I’ve heard from birds is that the show was a big meh
Yes!! For a show based on the idea of inclusion I didn’t really see a lot of disability related inclusion. We’re often forgotten. I think it’d be really cool to see a character with prosthetic limbs and it actually affects the, in world. In fantasy a lot of times people just cure their disability. Which sucks cause a lot of disabilities can’t be cured or even really treated. Just a cool side tangent to get into.
Nobody _ever_ thinks about disabilities (or even illnesses/medicines) in fantasy settings and it's a massive waste of potential. There are plenty more interesting and heartfelt ways to integrate it than just "idk magic cures everything lol." Like, is magical treatment expensive or limited? Are there any side effects? Do regular treatments and surgeries still exist? Is there anything that can't be cured _at all?_ What would a Guardian with a disability's daily life be like? It's an entire area of overlooked world building.
The fact that the person at 1:57 assumed it was for 6-10 year olds, but then the show was rated teen because of swearing and a few disturbing shots, lmao I also thought it was for little kids, and that would have been fine, nobody should yell at a little kiddie show for being unfit for an adult's taste. Why make it not kid-friendly?
the colors make it look like a kid show and the art quality is something that kids overlook easily compared to teens and adults. unless it was really funny, then no one would care about how it looks
@@pheonixrises11 I even messed up, I think it was rated for adult audience only, wich is hilarious and sad at the same time. I agree, kids don't see little issues with the art quality. As a kid I would have watched something like this, for _sure!_
@@glanni Apparently the show was created for a child audience and the shows use of searing and blood were last minute additions (animation takes so long “last minute” doesn’t really work but you know.) I really don’t know why they didn’t just keep it a kids show.
Tbh i forgot high guardian spice was a thing until I saw this lol. Love the redesigns!~ Sage and Thyme are prob my personal fav! Idk if this sounds cliché or not but an idea for naturey prosthetics could be made of plants, like a wooden arm with a bark-like texture? Or vines with some flowers, and it could kinda be like the pokemon deoxys. In the movie, deoxys can twists the tentacle-like arms into appearing like a more normal arm and vice versa.
Oh my gosh, that sounds like such a cool idea, I don't think it's cliché at all. Definitely gonna have to write that one down! And thank you, those two were definitely my favorites at the end too!
So this is only loosely related, but between this comment and Oddity herself, I got inspired to make a witch character whose magic specifically manifests via the creation and control of crystalline structures. She loses part of her arm, but in an effort to use her crystal magic to simply stop the bleeding, she ends up accidentally making a crystalline prosthetic arm for herself.
@@OddityIllustrations In still kinda working her general character out right now. And I'd probably need to commission or ask somebody else to draw her since pretty much all of my creative skill is in writing. ^^;
I feel like a sorcerer called SAGE, fucking SAGE could have so many different directions and inspirations which makes it even more ridiculous they decided to go with that
2:18 _“Having an all-woman, or mostly woman, team just doesn’t impress me, and honestly, it feels more misogynistic than anything else.”_ *THANK. YOU.* You are dead-on. The creators of _High Guardian Spice_ are discrediting every one of the hundreds of female artists who came before them. Every female animator, painter, director, whatever... the “diversity” pushers are tossing all their accomplishments away so that they can pretend to be trailblazers, and it’s disgusting.
Not only that, but the irony of calling themselves "diverse" and at the same time having a writing team consisting of solely white women (moreover, of the worst variety: the woke Karen type) is just a smack in the head.
Parsley being a Tiefling does actually make sense since Tieflings have Hellish Resistance (basically fire resistance) which would be useful for a blacksmith. And yes you said Tiefling correctly.
I would love if a kids cartoon had representation for disabled people or people who are physically scarred. Not in the way they screwed up this show with diversity but like just normalizing people who are different without like pointing it out but treating them as an equal? Or something.
At first I wasn't sure how a felt about you adding vitiligo to Thyme since so many people seem to use it as a cheap aesthetic to look "diverse" but then you shared how much research you put into it and I really liked it. It's probably the first time I've seen someone design a character with vitiligo while recognizing it as an autoimmune disorder and not just some trendy skin discoloration. Kudos.
6:15 Tbh Netflix does make a lot of good shows, like have we forgotten about Castlevania or Beastars?, but it's always hit or miss, either it will be good or very bad.
What should I try to redesign next? Who is your favorite and what would you do for High Guardian Spice? [Time Stamps] Redesigns at 8:06 Sage at 11:25 Parsely at 15:57 Thyme at 18:19
I'm finding this video exceptionally late, so pardon the random comment, but I don't know if I can pick a favorite? Every single one of the redesigns you've made is stunning! The only one that doesn't capture my attention as much as the others is Parsley, and I still love her a lot anyway. Only thing is I kinda wish she was more blatantly muscular and also had some burns and/or scarring due to her blacksmithing work. (Edit: My mind is still on the cooking thing, so now, I'm imagining your design of Parsley carrying a huge cast iron skillet as a backup weapon. The idea may or may not have been inspired by Tangled. XD) This is probably a kinda random idea, but I'd be kinda curious to see what you'd do if you were asked to come up with a new look for DC's Harley Quinn. No particular reason, I'm just a huge fan of the character. After watching this video, I debated asking for your interpretation of how Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy and Catwoman would be portrayed in a magical girl setting (either as villains or as their own magical girl team), but I'm sure that would be a lot to do, so you don't have to worry about it if you don't think it's something you'd be willing to do. 😅
I'd consider the possibility of tiefling Parsley having a tail. Tieflings generally have long tails, and I think having a tail that she's able to hold things with would help her with both blacksmithing and taking care of her family. Having basically an extra hand in the form of a prehensile tiefling tail in those situations sounds like something that would be helpful. Plus maybe that one ridiculous idea I had about her using a cast iron skillet as a weapon can be one of the things she uses her tail for in battle XD
I was considering the idea that, even if your version of Parsley is a tiefling, it could be interesting if there was still some dwarven influence in her design somewhere. Like maybe she was adopted by dwarves, has a dwarven mentor who she learned blacksmithing from, or is just generally fascinated by dwarven culture. I mainly bring this up because I remember you saying you gave Thyme a viking inspired hairstyle, but I mentally associate vikings with dwarves, so I thought something like that might suit Parsley whether she's a dwarf or a tiefling who low key wishes she was a dwarf. (Also sorry I keep dumping random ideas here. I think about these redesigns way more than I probably need to ^^;)
I see it more like a new design than a redesign - something that could stand on its own ground, as an entirely separate show. Perhaps because I actually liked what they did with their designs in the original show. Sure, it's not kick-ass awesome, and might not be very consistent with the epoch, but it got its own unique type of cuteness to it.
as a queer person,, we don't even want to be marketed to like this. like, inclusive and well-representing shows are very welcome! but us being used as your main selling point sucks,
The magic blight scar and prosthetics on Sage is an awesome addition to the character and I can see why it's you favourite one. I would say your Parsely redesign is my favourite one. I always have a soft spot for fantasy characters with a bit of a demonic look to them and the horns you gave her help give off that vibe. Honestly all 4 of your redesigns look like something that could be pulled from the Tales of franchise.
"Magical Girl Cooking show" Yumeiro Patisserie is an ooooolllddd anime where kids went to a cooking school and very few of them have fairies that help them a little bit in their pastry training. Its not entirely a magical girl but it sure is better than whatever HGS is.
Fun fact, when you watch good shows with a cast of characters in a group, you’ll notice that there’s unification in their color palettes. Cowboy Bebop has red, blue and yellow to unify everyone, like even if someone doesn’t have one color, they’ll have at least another. In Konosuba, they all have yellow strips around their costumes… and my god it’s such a simple rule and yet High Guardian fucked this up as well.
Damn! Sage redesign looks Fantastic, as well as the additional details surrounding her since everything else in the actual show was lacking. And Thyme’s Elk/Satyr redesign looks Amazing! You really did a lot to make them stand out compared to a lot of the typical Fantasy trope races.
Since the show came out, can you redesign snapdragon? He seems like a generally good character and same with Amaryllis. I feel like the both of them have a lot of possibilities.
4:35 Hahaha. “Rules behind this world”. Of course they don’y say it in the trailer. They don’t say it in the show either! I actually watched the show to know how bad it is and form my own opinion. It took them until episode 8 to mention that the kingdom we’re in is called Scarborough. 12 episodes in, and nobody bothered to establish what a Guardian actually is. Do they serve the crown? Do they protect the world regardless of national borders? Are they just mercenaries? Are they exclusive to the city of Lingarth or are there more academies in different towns/countries? What do Guardians do besides fighting monsters? Why are they fighting monsters? Who knows! 6:23 “Let’s make another copy and paste magical show!” No. It’s worse than that. It’d be better if it was. They didn’t even make a cookie-cutter magical show. They made it an incoherent mess.
You know, I will say that HGS did _one_ good thing, and that was giving me the kick in the butt I needed to start working on one of my original stories. Spite is a wonderful thing. Also I love how your take on the girls looks kind of like a DnD party. They're all so heckin' _cool!_
Cant lie the redesigns really hit my DnD points. Like i can see the players for each if they were in dnd. Rosemary's Player is the anime dweeb the group loves to death who is also the only one who knows how to draw. Sage's is new to the whole roleplay thing so made a more passive character but really likes there scarred/permanent changes and the player has played all the roots of katawa shoujo. Parsley's player is a veteran player who just got out of 2 simultaneous hard games where min-max was a must so is rolled up just a fun, hardy laugh sort of character. And Thyme's has a medical issue of some sort that they're playing DnD to forget about for a couple hours, but didnt feel ok with playing a "Normal" character so worked with the DM to make a character that worked. I just like how much life and potential they feel.
Okay, so far I'm only on Rosemart but aaahhhh! I love her! I love the green patterns you added to her and I love how her torso looks like a watermelon now it's so good. I also really like Sage! Her scarring looks really cool and I like the color scheme you chose for her! Although yeah I agree, she might be a tinge too complicated for animation. I love Parsley's vibes! She looks so cool and the blue you used really works for the color palette. I love how you managed to turn probably my least favorite design into my favorite. Love the horns too. Thyme is also really great! I really like her hair and her horns! The asymmetrical boots are a bit weird, but I think you managed to make it work. Overall, infinitely better than the official designs which all scream uninspired.
I love how you made Rosemary's hair look more normal (you know, as normal as anime hair can be lol) It looks cursed and weird in the original show since there is no distinct place where the bangs separate from the pigtails. I love all the redesigns in general but that was the one thing that really stood out and bothered me in the original show.
Keeping in mind, now that the actual show is released and everything, this would have been such a cool concept for Sage Like, the reasoning she doesn't use new magic, a part of their magic system in High Guardian Spice, is that her mother is against it. But what if it was because of some awful accident when she was younger? And maybe, if you had to keep in the "oh I still wanna learn new magic but my mother won't let me" thing, you could go with she blocked it out of her memory, or that she wants to get good enough with it so her family never has to worry about her hurting herself with new magic ever again!
I adore your designs!! They came out so good! I love what you did with Sage's design, they all look so well done. :D I also hope the show is at least decent, But from the second trailer it just really makes me worried it's just another generic show that will be super boring. But who knows, maybe it will surprise us with some big twist and it actually turns out to be interesting or at the very least fun to watch?
It isn't anime in the way we think of anime. Technically speaking, "anime" is just the Japanese word for "cartoon". They call anything animated an anime, even ones outside of Japan. So, technically, everyone's right no matter what you call it.
The issue that most people have (other than the performative diversity) is that is that it's has an extremely Westernised approach from its writing to the character art that it fails to appeal to Crunchyroll's audience. It feels closer to Steven Universe and She-ra, then something out of a Japanese studio.
I'm just gonna list off the random thoughts that went through my head while watching this. (Numbers 4, 5, 6 and 8 are probably the most important ones tbh) 1. A magical girl show that has something to do with cooking would be pretty awesome! I also remember having an idea for a magical girl team themed after cheerleaders. Not sure if that's a thing already, but it would be cool to see. 2. As basic as it is, I really love the whole aspect of a school made to train the next generation of magical heroes. I don't know what it is, but it's a premise that always immediately catches my attention. 3. You made Rosemary basically look like a strawberry and I love that! 4. Would it be safe to guess that Sage's prosthetics are made of wood? If the nature theme is gonna be as heavy as it is with her especially, seems like wooden prosthetics would make sense. Also, considering that the word "sage" can also describe a wise, intelligent person, I have to imagine this character is the bookworm, valedictorian type of character. 5. Parsley looks slightly more likely to be the feisty hothead than Rosemary. If not for the inherent desire/expectation for the pink character to be the main character of the story, I would probably say Parsley should be the protagonist instead just because I feel like she'd have the most to prove out of all of them. Rosemary has the issue with her mom, sure, but whether it's Parsley's dwarven self or your tiefling variant of her, there's a level of stigma surrounding what she is (especially in the case of tieflings due to their devilish/demonic heritage), and I think she'd be a more interesting character to closely follow in a story like this. 6. If you did switch Parsley and Rosemary's roles around (or just had the two more obviously share the protagonist spot), I kinda imagine it's because Parsley inspired Rosemary to become a guardian. Maybe Rosemary originally wanted nothing to do with the adventuring life both due to her mother's disappearance and because she grew up on xenophobic propaganda against non-humans, but Parsley somehow helps Rosemary and saves her life when they're both still young, which completely changes her mind on the idea. 7. I never knew vitiligo also had the capacity to impact hearing and eyesight. Thank you for adding that bit of information in the video! ❤️ 8. I know the whole thing about Thyme keeping arrows in her hair was a joke, but I want that to be an actual thing now. I just want part of her magic to be that she has a small pocket dimension in her hair that she used to exclusively use as a space for her arrows, but as she slowly and begrudgingly becomes the team mom figure in the group, she regularly keeps her friends personal items in there or finds that one of them put something in her hair without asking her first 🤣
Bonus Note 1: I just realized most of these girls could potentially be the associated with one of the Greek deities. Mainly Hecate for Sage, Hestia and/or Hephaestus for Parsley, and Artemis for Thyme. Rosemary's aesthetic makes me think of Aphrodite, but her actual demeanor would be more likely to be attributed to either Athena or Nike. Bonus Note 2: Tieflings tend to have long, prehensile tails, which I think would be really helpful for Parsley to have. Basically having an extra hand seems like it would be a good thing for a character who both does blacksmithing and takes care of most of her family. 👍🏾 Bonus Note 3: I keep imagining Thyme having powers that specifically allow her to listen to the voices of the forest (primarily the plants), and since I've learned from this video that vitiligo can cause visual impairments and/or hearing problems, I want to say that Thyme lived in the forest at first and this magic helps her see or hear better. Having to move to a city to attend the academy makes it significantly more difficult for her to see or hear as well as she usually would in the woods, so her general irritability is due to the fact that she's not fully been able to figure out how to cope with this yet. Bonus Note 4: The concept of Rosemary growing up on xenophobic pro-human propaganda made me imagine that maybe her family is/was involved with a cult. Like they lived in a village where a human only cult had a lot of political power, and maybe the mother's disappearance had something to do with the cult, but Rosemary was only told that her mother was gone because (insert non-human species here) took her away while she was on a mission and ate her. So because of this, Rosemary never wanted to become an adventurer/guardian in the first place because she believed throwing herself into danger and mingling with non-humans would get her killed. Bonus Note 4.5: Relating back to the last point, Rosemary's mind changes the day she meets Parsley. I'm not sure exactly how they'd end up crossing paths, but I do know Parsley would say something that Rosemary's mother always used to say, which would roughly be something like "If you have the ability to help somebody, help them. Whatever it takes. It's the right thing to do." Rosemary only ever applied this mentality to other humans, but hearing Parsley say this after saving her makes her consider that maybe her mother's advice could also apply to non-humans. That idea comes back up when the cult tries to kidnap Parsley because Rosemary ends up returning the favor and saving Parsley, which makes it so the two of them have to run for their lives, which lands them in the city where the academy is. Alternatively, Rosemary could be already part of the cult and be assigned to go to the academy to destroy both it and the city it was built in because it represents cooperation between humans and non-humans, and such an idea needs to be destroyed at its source. Running into the kind tiefling blacksmith again and spending enough time at the academy slowly changes her mindset, but she knows betraying the cult probably means death, so her morals, her upbringing, and her desire to survive all start pulling her in different directions as she tries to figure out who she wants to be and what she's supposed to do. Bonus Note 5: Similarly to how Parsley and Rosemary's backstories overlap, Sage and Thyme's backstories could overlap slightly as well. Nature seems to be the strongest theme in the two of them in particular, and I found out through someone's review that there's a magical rot plaguing Thyme's home that a witch organization doesn't want stopped, and I think those two things could bind Thyme and Sage together. Thyme is aware that witches had something to do with the rot, so when she sees Sage in her forest one day, she thinks this might be one of the witches who caused it, but she finds out Sage really loves nature and is trying to fix the problem. There comes a point where some witches come and try to clear out Thyme and get family, and Sage uses an experimental and volatile spell to both get the evil witches to go away and clear a significant portion of the rot away, but because Thyme doesn't see Sage anywhere afterwards, she assumes Sage died in the blast. Thyme's family largely dislikes witches at this point, and though Thyme mostly shares the same sentiment, she is at least aware that good witches can exist and could be powerful enough to save their home. She goes to the city and enrolls in the academy so she can both learn to protect her home better and maybe find a kind witch that can help her, only to find Sage and see that she has prosthetic limbs now. Feeling guilty because she's certain Sage lost her arm and leg when she last saw her, Thyme decides she owes Sage a life debt and goes out of her way to protect her as much as she can. In exchange, Sage promises to devote as much time as she can to figuring out how her spell can be used again without causing significant harm to herself or others again. Bonus Note 6: I imagine both Sage and Thyme had some kind of run-in with the cult that raised Rosemary as well. The cult probably specifically wants Parsley and Thyme because they don't want their infernal and fey power to be used against them, so Rosemary may eventually be forced to betray her own team if it'll keep the cult from taking her life.
A concept that I'll probably never do, but would love to make/see, would be a magical girl show that focuses on a premise similar to your number 2: a school that trains the next wave of warriors, but one that would focus less on the girls coming of age, but on the "mothers" raising them. It would touch on the classic coming of age theme, but would also touch on adult concepts like it being okay to pass the torch to the next generation, but also to reestablish hope for the future. Inspired by the lack of "motherhood" shows, the annoying concept that magical girls are only for little girls, and the fact I loved the adults being useful in Naruto.
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster sounds great. Can I use your idea for making an fix fic? Maybe you can help me too. Also I'm going to publish the fic on Ao3.
I would accept Owl House as an anime honestly. If it was actually made to be an anime instead of a kid's cartoon it would be way too good, because currently I think the quality of it is up to anime standards.
I disagree. It’s not in an anime style or made by Japan. Being an anime doesn’t mean it’ll be good and not being anime doesn’t mean it’ll be bad. And being a cartoon shouldn’t be a bad thing. The owl house is amazing as a cartoon.
@@saltydinonuggies1841 That's true but over the years my definition of what could be an anime has expanded. If Owl house had the same style and was made in Japan it would be considered an anime so style does not really matter in anime anymore. I am not saying I am calling Owl House an anime, but if it was made by crunchyroll and they produced it instead of high guardian then I would accept it as an anime. But you're right
@@nekotoxin8039 I disagree on the Crunchyroll part, but I still don't think the Owl House _looks_ like an anime. Anime characters are usually drawn like real people, they do exaggerate for the sake of the style but they're still based on the figure of a real person, and while the Owl House does seem to have different body types that are close to real people, the noticeable differences are that it falls under the same category of having the framework of the characters already exaggerated and meant to be in a more childish or chibi way, like the head being bigger than the length of the shoulders or torso. That's why it seems more closely to Gravity falls or Steven Universe, their framework was already exaggerated despite having realistic touches/details to them. And even though you find examples of anime characters that are under the category - _Most_ anime's emphasise that the characters' framework are based off of a real person's framework, but with some exaggerated touches. Basically the opposite of the Owl House, having a realistic framework with exaggerated touches. The closest you can get to an anime is perhaps the Legend of Korra, The Boondocks and Trese, and they all completely look unlike the Owl House just for the fact that they're more realistically built.
I really like the little tabards you gave to all of them. It's a great was to make them look like a team without compromising their personal aesthetics!
would watch this if it was a cooking show like maybe the world have bland cooking nothing new just simple stuff and these girls are trying new things wanting to add more flavor but the people are closed minded about trying new foods so these girls create their own restaurant and have to work hard to keep it open along with a few episode of them going out getting new ingredients to try and create something new for their menu
@@OddityIllustrations start it off as a web comic then let the money roll in with shirts and plushies of the characters the main characters would be a dark elf, a goblin, a kobold (eastern version meaning dog person) and a Tetra Arm (which is a race of large muscular people with four or six set of arms) so with this they are from different walks of life and parts of the world so each would have their own different tastes so you can throw in accepting others for who they are but not through stuffing it down others throats but through in some little fights here and there and them working on their own problems so not everything can be about the restaurant or gathering ingredients and would flesh out their character out.
Just wanted to contribute something to this idea! Base the main character on someone like Xiangling from Genshin Impact. He whole thing is that she's a chef who's always using bizarre ingredients in her food but is really good at making those bizarre ingredients taste amazing in whatever dish she makes. She's also got a lot of energy and seems to throw herself headfirst into dangerous situations all the time just so she can find rare ingredients, which I think would be really fitting for a protagonist of a story like this, especially if the setting is still going to have some strong fantasy elements!
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster That's a really good idea, maybe I can have the Kobold be like that since they would have a very strong sense of smell would be able to smell how good the food would be even if the ingredients looks strange and bizarre
If you want something unique for the dwarf, could try mild facial hair. Since the female dwarves originally had heavy beards to further separate themselves with humans so that could be a thing. And it'd also help to keep her unique and different from the rest and most importantly, memorable.
Well, the blacksmith character being a Tiefling is also kind of a trope in DnD. Tieflings due to their infernal ancestry are resistant to fire. Also in the show (what little glimpses I saw of it now) the blacksmith character gave me more of a halfling vibe, rather that a dwarf.
With Parsley in my suggestion was to make her more Goblinlike in appearance like the old Norse mythology as opposed to the Tolkien style. As the Tolkien style dwarf is rather overdone so why not mix it up.
For sage I think we could push the whole "mutilated" thing a little bit more. What if the prostetics aren't "magical" and are just pieces of wood? As a result of her condition she could have entered a symbaiotic relationship with the vines that cover half her body: she feeds it magical energy to keep it alive and in exchange she gets to control the vines, the prostetics being a vest/armour/puppets that the vines get in or around and actually move. This way we can even give her non-human prostetics with all sort of useful tools, all she has to do is to leave the prostetic then grab with her vines the new one
With the nature witch + prosthetic idea: what if it’s a wooden prosthetic or generally made of a living plant? She can have it hold hand shape or change it when she needs it to. It could also be somewhat symbiotic with her since she’s lost a limb. Maybe if you want a dark angle it’s got roots in her skin, feeds on her blood, that sort of thing.
Holy crap your Thyme redesign is so cool. Like seriously, the show just went with "generic elf girl: edgy/moody archer edition". Your version is so much more visually interesting; I especially love how you did the antlers. And using vitiligo as faun spots was brilliant.
“I wanna see magical girl cooking.” Delicious Party Precure, coming 2022. Details forthcoming. Anyway, I love your point about female creators throughout history, especially Japanese anime and manga creators. Unfortunately, we Americans like to think everything we do is groundbreaking, so the contributions of women outside of the USA don’t count. It only matters when we do it.
Honestly, I believe more people like you should get into the animation industry! You’ve already proven your strengths as a character artist and it’s clear you have a true knack for story telling!! Plus you’ve already shown that even RUclips creators are much more adapt at making artwork and a well written story then even a big industry ( crunchy roll) could! I look forward to more from you. P.s.- thanks for bringing up full metal alchemist I love that show! Also I love your thyme redesign!
Rosemary, Parsley & Sage kinda remind me of a few characters from another magical girl show....... Madoka, Mami & Sayaka from Puella Magi Madoka Magica!!!
Fun fact: humans have stripes like tigers do, they are just about the same color as the rest of our skin so it's mostly invisible to us, cats on the other hands see our stripes very easily. But how does this relate to the video: Thyme, she having vitiligo would be backed up by the stripes in humans and evolution of her people living in the woods and the necessity to blend in the environment for both defence against predators and for hunting. So it would make SCIENTIFIC SENSE to give her this. Also antlers are a really good weapon on the animal kingdom. Anyway, good design
W.i.t.c.h., an Italian Disney comic, is created by Elisabetta Gnone, a woman, and it's much better than High Guardian Spice. It was created in 2001 and ended in 2012. It was very VERY popular among the masses (even boys read it), because it didn't use "created by a woman" as a selling point. Markets wanted only to sell a unique story and it worked. It's still loved by its fans.
Making Parsley a tiefling is actually genius because it adds a whole lot more to her character. Tieflings in DnD came about because somewhere down the line, someone either made a deal with a fiendish entity or had a baby with a tiefling, but the latter doesn't always guarantee tiefling baby. So after a few generations of normal babies, you suddenly have a tiefling baby (though tiefling dwarves are rather rare).
These designs are so much more pleasing! Though one thing is usually (from my archery experience and seeing other archers and designs) the left arm (or the one that holds the bow depending on eye dominance) is uncovered. The bow string is too likely to get caught on fabric and bulky materials! Good archers know how you extend their arm the right way so the string won't snag on your skin, but the same can't be said for bulky and loose materials. The thought and effort into the design is amazing though and I didn't think anyone would think of the bow string snagging on something.
I'm normally not a fan of vitiligo on characters because it's so massively overdone in fanart and OCs recently, but I think in this case it would actually work for Thyme, because she's clearly deer-inspired and the coloration pattern matches that.
I have seen a lot of hate on this show since it premiered, and I’m glad someone decided to give some love to the actual character design than the creators. These look more fun to model in 3D like ZBrush. I also don’t have a problem getting inspiration from D&D. The Dark Sun campaign world, at least 2nd edition D&D had changes to the basic races you may like in future characters.
Ahh I really love that you focused on the nature theme!! (Plus I especially love Thyme and the fact you made her a fawn, it makes her so adorable! As well as the way you draw eyes) Honestly the only thing I’d change about these is Rosemary’s hair! To me the pink pigtails screams way too much Madoka but honestly that was more in the show itself? Like somehow you made it not as bothersome for me despite literally adding bows too lol. If I were to change it to anything I’d make it short pink and curly as it’s not a hairstyle I see much but I think it’s really cute
For Rosemary you could have instead done a design where she wears a Curas and a shoulder guard like the first magic armor gear Hikaru, Umi and Fuu wear in Magic Knight Rayearth. It would allow a decent starting point for her and with Parsly being a forgemaster's assistant ( not shown in trailer) allows room for the armor to grow with the character. With Parsley you could have made her more goblin like in design ( like the original description of dwarves in Norse mythology) but instead show her being a tinkerer of magical constructs as opposed to old fashioned set in their ways dwarves. And a good insult maker wouldn't hurt the character.
Not important but I always thought high guardian spice was gonna have something to do with cooking and fighting cause ya know high GUARDIAN SPICE but anyway love the re-designs
You want a cooking/baking themed magical girl show? watch kira kira precure! baking is a major element in that show, to the point where the main character's cure designs and personalities are based around a particular food (and animal). its a very underappreciated precure season which is a shame because the characters are really good. The up coming precure season judging by its name, Delicious Party Precure seems to have a cooking theme as well, but we'll just have to wait and see when that comes out next year
This show needed to marinate more, they have a nice base set of ideas and honestly I was able to make an entire world based on the bare bones ideas of: Guardians, special jobs for magic users, As well as the characters are still in the placeholder stage mostly based on their inspiration, especially olive(?) (idk what cat girl is) The fantasy idea with modern clothing is cool, magitect could be used. I like the animation Raye did with a beta-Rosemary much more than than the final product. It has a dungeon crawler feeling and the backgrounds ar simple but charming kinda like adventure time backgrounds.
Thank God another woman had to point out being made by women isn't special and that being made by a staff of 90% women isn't diverse at all. Their community would completely disregard it if it was being said by a man.
When you mention magical girl cooking anime, theres also Kira Kira Precure A la mode! I love the music of it so much and it's worth a watch if you haven't seen it
Okay, but imagine if the "accident" that sage got into had to do with new magic or something? Which would explain why she and her parents are so wary of it. I'd be nice to see her try out new magic and overcome that fear of hers. Just a thought though!
THYME BEING LIKE A WHITE TAIL DEER AND ALSO HAVING VITILIGO IS SUCH A STRONG VISUAL. i loved that so so much. i love tiefling parsley. this is an awesome lineuo
Thyme was my favorite of the redesigns! I love the effort and interest into the research of vitiligo as well, thats what made it so interesting and favorable for me, plus the artstyle is just beautiful❤
With naming the characters after the herbs from Scarborough Fair, I feel like they really missed out on color coding them by the flowers of the plants they're named for. Rosemary should be a blueish-purple, Sage a lavender, Thyme white, and Parsley green or yellow.
Endro did the whole cute girl team better.
@@MaliciousMalcontent There are better shows with diversity than this, I swear.
They also missed the point of the song, it's about a woman waiting for the man she loves to return and marry her.
@@barrybend7189 facts I loved that show
But "rose" means pink in french but it doesn't make sense with the spice theme ^^'
Let it be noted that Rumiko Takahashi, the creator of Inu-Yasha, a woman in her 60s, is still at the top of her a-game, draws for hours on end, scripts for hours on end, and storyboards for six hours, does all of her housework BY HERSELF, and is one of the highest grossing mangakas still TODAY. The making a big deal out of an entire show being made by women is absolutely fuckin' laughable.
Didn't she get to be the richest woman in Japan at one point?
Jesus she was straight up singlehandedly carrying that household
That woman is a power house
Also, CLAMP did the "all female writer's team" thing before it was cool.
Not to mention, we have Mangakas like Paru Itagaki, the creator of Beastars.
Gumball got awfully close, since that scene was animated by Studio Trigger.
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It was actually Studio 4°C. They wanted to get Trigger, but they were too busy
@@Ekraelum oh ok sorry...
@@Titanxzero1 no problem. Many people think it was Trigger because the artstyle is awfully close to Trigger's, I don't blame you or anyone for that 😅
@@Ekraelum thank you
A magical girl cooking show would be a pretty cool idea for an anime ngl.
Tbh I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed if Crunchyroll didn't use diversity as a selling point instead of creating something...y'know...interesting.
I imagine Food Wars meets Sailor Moon at the tamest...
Toriko meets Madoka if its gonna focus more on Fighting Food Monsters. :P
Kira Kira precure is kinda like a cooking magical girl anime
Technically, a Japanese NHK children cooking show ‘Cooking Idol Ai! mi! mine!’ had minor magical girl vibes with mix of anime and live action
watch kira kira precure a la mode if u want that :)
The character should be interesting before you even consider making them diverse.
Their names aren't even spices, they're herbs
I know this because I use them time to time, specifically rosemary and sage, both of them are considered herbs
But then they could not reference that Simon & Garfunkel song.
lowkey there's not a huge difference between most spices and other herbs, just that spices are... a special subsection for some reason?
The biggest I've found is probably that herbs don't tend to murder you when you use too much.
THIS! *FUCKINGTHIS!*
Straight up no one else in my friend circle gets it! This is the epitome of lazy writing, hey we gonna name this High Guardian Spice, what should we name our main cast?
And some dumb ass decides to go with ROSE AND SAGE!
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 a good way to differ between a spice and a herb is that herbs often are plants (such as Sage, Rosemary or Thyme) that you add to a dish, such as adding Bayleaf to Marinara sauce. Spices are usually things like nuts and seeds ground up into a powder and used within dishes (such as Pepper, Paprika, Cayenne, Ground Cinnamon)
@@pablocruz5613 bruh, you clearly have never cooked chinese dishes XP
spices are used in chinese dishes all the time, in whole. rarely are they ground up...
“We have lesbians in our show!”
Yeah like Madoka magica, Alien 9, Utena, Sakura Cardcaptor, Sailor moon,etc etc…
I didn’t know Madoka had canon lesbians! You learn something new every day I guess
@@feralratking1638 gay dudes too
Alien 9 frfr
don't forget love live and bandori
Also Kobyashi Dragon Maid
"I just really like mutilating my characters apparently."
Every amateur level writer who loves making OCs would definitely feel this sentence. I should know, I'm one of them.
Same thing, I can say that sometimes I feel bad about what happens to my characters, and I've created them
Yeah...
They've been through some shité...
*Flashbacks to both of them developing long term broken heart syndrome (a temporary heart condition caused by things like emotional stress, usually it isn't necessarily too serious and you can usually recover fairly easily but uh...let's just say trying to hide this kind of thing while appearing to be perfectly fine can kind of make things a bit more serious at times...) AFTER at least maybe 10+ years of major trauma followed by them essentially psychologically torturing themselves for about six years, one of them having an entire mental crisis due to accidentally hurting one of her friends by standing up for someone who used to be an enemy and then not knowing who to side with, the time they died at least three times in their backstory only to be reincarnated (with all of their memories) to be with their younger brother (who's immortal), the number of times that their parents have been killed (usually in front of them, at least once THEY were the ones who killed them without knowing who they were at the time, and at least once the people who adopted them ALSO were killed later on...as well as everyone else in the village...so uh... special mention goes to those moments...), and several other moments*
....
I mean....at least while I may royally screw them up psychologically I'm a decent enough human being to make sure that they don't _STAY_ that way and make it so that they always have at least one person keeping them from going completely overboard....
Not that that worked out very well in the first case since he's the reason they got broken heart syndrome in the first place....or in the case where they died three times because they died each time while protecting said brother (who wouldn't have died anyway but would still feel the pain)
but still....
I'm a horrible person....
Yeah, same here. It's kinda therapeutic to take a character who has aspects of my own personality or my own flaws and put them through the wringer.
Mention of uhh injuries and death and stuff
I made this one specific oc of mine almost died in a car crash, have a fucked up love life, lost his daughters and divorced with his wife and almost go blind
Some of my mutuals said I'm a sadist but that's just the beginning
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I love how my first thought was "That's not that bad I've done way worse" then I saw your last line and was just like "Oh....well my point still stands."
It makes sense for the deer themed character to have vitiligo. Deer are prey animals who rely on camouflage for survival, and the vitiligo is reminiscent of the spots on a fawn, which are there to mimic the way sunlight filters through leaves in a forest. The vitiligo on Thyme could easily be justified as an evolutionary trait her people developed for survival, as it would help them blend into their environment.
It also makes them look like piebald deer!
I love love LOVE LOVE your inclusion of bigger, more pronounced boots in your designs. Its such a retro fantasy design you see in things like 80s-90s RPGs and European comic works (Asterix comes to mind), and its my favorite detail in any fantasy design. Floppy boots are the best boots
I like you actually added different condition make sense for the characters. .I tried watching Dragon Prince, but the fact one of the generals was deaf was kinda dumb, hearing is very important in battle. If she were a lone mute fighter that would have been better, but a general needs to hear and communicate. I like not only when diversity makes sense but also when it adds to the story while not shoved in your face. Zuko’s scar being a good example.
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Oh she can hear, she just can’t talk.
If you like that kind of Fantasy try and play the game Sudeki.
@@danielramsey6141 that’s like bringing a blind person into the army and then making them the person who controls drones
oh my stars i LOVED the asterix and obelix comics as a child! i really like it when artists add little meaningful detail in their work, it makes it all the more unique
It’s always sad to see creators focus so much on being inclusive that they forget what people actually want to see in a show. I would rather watch Rosemary dig through the history of her family and discover what happened to her mother over anything she does in the series.
I feel like it’s more sexist to deliberately try to bring diversity to a workplace,as a gay it just feels weird when a company forcefully puts in gay or trans characters just to be diverse
@@cinnamon4ada7 I’m straight but I definitely agree
@@cinnamon4ada7 I think it’s called queerbaiting, companies or shows tease Lgbt viewers with “oooh, gay character? you guys wanna watch this, right?” and then in the actual show it either is. VERY poorly done or just never ends up happening at all - just implied that hey, this dude might be gay, we won’t actually include it though.
@@lifewithkids5231 if I had a penny for every book, TV show etc which promised us "the FIRST EVER openly gay character" (who is probably just there to exposition dump about how much their life sucks and then never do anything again) I'd probably be rich 💀
@@cinnamon4ada7 As someone who is straight, I agree with you! Diversity should be handled naturally, be it ethnicity or sexual orientation. Shows back in the day based on TOYS for one thing can handle that- G.I. Joe is a good example with the vast diversity the Joes and Cobra have going on for them, like G.I. Joe having members who are Black, Asian, Hispanic, Latin, Irish, Native American, and all walks of life especially with the expansion of Joes outside of the US as well
Ok but Thyme with vitiligo looks way better than the og, this actually has intensity and originality in her design.
My eyes saw her as a Deer girl, cause I'm a fan of monster girl shows.
Top things to take in this video:
-Not to overdose your anime trailers with “Diversity” and “Representation”
-Not to underpay your animators
-Not to bore Odd (Hey! Are we related? I’m Odd too)
-Not to blur lines between the Oriental and American styles
-Try out better colors and designs OTHER than tropes
-Not to let Odd drink 2 in the morning
No offense, but while I got what you meant, I feel like you could maybe use a better word than “oriental” to describe Asian animation styles, the word has a lot of history of being used to exotify Asian culture
@@lindseylindsey9200 history? it's still being used sometimes.
Welp, that's just how it is with pretentious people. Ruined a useful word for nothing.
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 that’s a good point, it’s definitely still used today and I could have worded my sentence better
tbh, style fusion can work: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt is an excellent example of Western and Japanese animation style fusion, using the strengths of both to create something that looked cool
The bold shapes and simple designs of UPA, 90s and 00s American cartoons, plus the flashy action boarding and animation style of Gainax at the time
@@lindseylindsey9200 problem with saying just Asian is its confusing since Asia also includes India. Personally saying South east Asian does the trick for "oriental" countries (sorry for word usage can't think of better term) and then for Indians, South Asia works lol.
Idk it always irks me that people literally forget India exists as part of Asia lol everyone always thinks of the other Asians.
Also not being rude I just find these terms help a lot!
The prosthetics on Sage gives off a Full Metal Alchemist vibe, which is good. During the show, she could upgrade it (like a weapon) or creatively use it in battle.
Or instead of the prostetic being made of wood and vines its a prostetic made of Bone and Chitin. Make the material usage more creative. Plus with bone and Chitin it would be less flammable which would be a plus and give more of a balance for her if it's enchanted to work like a normal limb.
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That’d be sick as hell.
@@beastmaster0934 I thought of that because if you want unique characters think of more esoteric solutions. Plus if it was a wooden leg it could be mistaken for a boot so make it stand out a little more.
For a supposedly progressive show, the characters are strangely stereotypically bland.
Break the mold, but only in a tried and tested way that’s sure to make us money
They are trying so hard to make it look progressive but it's not possible. It's only possible if racism, sexism, and LGBTQ+ hatred is in the world there otherwise the whole progressiveness is unnoticeable because it's normal. It goes into the flow with stuff that aren't in the minority. For example having a dark skin coloured people in a show with other skin coloured people makes it look more natural than if you put 1 black person because representation. It surely gives more attention to the character because it's the only one who is black. Same if we reversed it. Which is a way to actually focus on the progression, but it shows that it isn't natural.
On an unrelated note, at least they show a bit more personality than the Deadly Six from Sonic Lost World, but I'd prefer those bland villains than the HGS characters.
@@absolutebeauty7753 The problem is people like you that see the default skin color and people as white.
@@witchplease9695 Eh not people like me. And that's assumption you made. The reason why it is like that is because most people were taught that the default is white. So blame the parents and blame the fact of history. We only can change the now to not tell children that the default is white. And tbh the default imo is tan. Tan is between white and black so it could become more darker or more whiter. That's how I see it as it's perfectly in the middle too
Kinda sad that Teen Titans, a show made in 2003 has a much better blend of Oriental and American art than High Guardian Spice.
I want more shows that has a similar art style to pre-Omniverse era Ben 10, Generator Rex, Young Justice and the DC animated movie universe movies
Same thing with Avatar (no, not the one that has the blue aliens.)
@@LegoManiac_101 Invincible's the only show I can think of with that kind of artstyle that came out recently
@@GamingJoseThe invincible’s art style is more akin to old comic book based cartoons like Batman the animated series. Not anime.
@@BunnyLove5763 Never said that Invincible or the shows I mentioned are "anime". I only said I want more shows that have that art style.
The original design for Sage literally looks like a background character.
Apparently from what I gathered from clips of this "show", Sage lived in the countryside of her home island and was taught the ways of "old magic". A style of magic that is more traditional (proper knowledge of spell symbols, incantations and how to channel elements from the earth) and is forbidden to learn "new magic" (armor, weapons and items that have magic installed inside them like the magic items from Danmachi). In a way Sage plays a double meaning, Sage being a pun for the "spice" theme and Sages being hermits who avoid modern technologies and learn to harness the power of nature as well as appreciate the beauty of it. Though I'm probably just give this show too much credit.
Yeah, I also think that her design in this show works pretty well with her character. It's not just "bland Halloween witch costume", I think of it more like a Puritan style of dressing (on which the witch trope has been based), which is very modest and bland on purpose, to not draw attention, to express humbleness, to be practical rather than attractive. It also fits Sage's character, considering that she's more introvert, shy, always nice and kind to everyone, very traditional (you know, the Old Magic stuff) etc. Her design, ironically, makes her stand out more when she's surrounded with characters wearing wacky costumes, by contrast. It also draws more attention to her face (which I find kind of cute) and her hair (which has a rather intense blue colour). Sure, they might have added some little details here and there to make it more interesting, and yet still not too much "in your face", but I can't complain, I like what I get.
Parsley has like 12 siblings. It makes sense to make her a Tiefling with dnd tropes and how their demonic parents often sire a lot of tieflings into existence.
Yeah, your designs offer way more variety, diversity, and character than what the actual show delivered.
Like... It's not even a contest.
I want to see a show more about these versions.
Wow someone really knows nothing about design. The shows design are basic but these are cluttered and overdetailed. Rosemary is the only decent one and after that it goes off the rails hard
@@whycantijusthaveausernameo3993 Yeah, because I NEVER seen a show/anime with detailed designs.
Ejem Madoka Magica, Magia Record,One Punch Man, Monster high, Ever After High(or something like that), Fullmetal Alchemist, south park (secondary characters), etc.
(Sorry for my bad english)
Edit: The designs aren't even difficult or detailed, it has the style of Magia Record mix with Sailor Moon.
@@NighttyDai one punch man is an incredibly simple design and that's why it works
Well, Saitama might be. But peeps like Genos or some of the monsters certainly aren’t lol.
But yeah, so much visual appeal packed into an OP egg of a man. It just works.
Ikr?
Why did my brain came up with the idea that the bakery is to help the characters to over come they're troubles? Like, from what I noticed Rosemary's mom "died" in front of her, so (going on a whim) it's likely she got PTSD or some for of trauma. And Sage being a person with disabilities can lead to things like depression, anxiety(specifically social anxiety), and maybe some bad memories with bullies.
Also! I know that not all people with disabilities dont have depression or anxiety but I would think that Sage is constantly surrounded with "normal" people, and her prosthetics and scars may lead people to think shes incapable in doing magic which also doesnt help with her anxiety.
But that just what my brain came up with and just want to share.
That’s such a great idea, it sounds like it’d be really sweet and wholesome! Now I want to make a whole AU🥺
@@OddityIllustrations I'm gonna be honest the whole making a business as therapy idea was based on my clown ocs. ^^||
They're twins that have a really bad childhood so to overcome the bad memories and possible anxiety one of the twins present the idea of them being clowns to their therapist. The therapist agrees and ever sense they help children to overcome their fears of clowns and the children helps them to overcome their past.
Oh my word, what if the crew does the baking lessons with children! It would be pretty adorable and it can be actual recipes! And it can help with some of the character's anxiety!
@@OddityIllustrations Well hey, the good news is you could probably make an AU of this and it qpuld be better than the show cause from what I’ve heard from birds is that the show was a big meh
Yes!! For a show based on the idea of inclusion I didn’t really see a lot of disability related inclusion. We’re often forgotten. I think it’d be really cool to see a character with prosthetic limbs and it actually affects the, in world. In fantasy a lot of times people just cure their disability. Which sucks cause a lot of disabilities can’t be cured or even really treated.
Just a cool side tangent to get into.
Nobody _ever_ thinks about disabilities (or even illnesses/medicines) in fantasy settings and it's a massive waste of potential. There are plenty more interesting and heartfelt ways to integrate it than just "idk magic cures everything lol."
Like, is magical treatment expensive or limited? Are there any side effects? Do regular treatments and surgeries still exist? Is there anything that can't be cured _at all?_ What would a Guardian with a disability's daily life be like? It's an entire area of overlooked world building.
The fact that the person at 1:57 assumed it was for 6-10 year olds, but then the show was rated teen because of swearing and a few disturbing shots, lmao
I also thought it was for little kids, and that would have been fine, nobody should yell at a little kiddie show for being unfit for an adult's taste. Why make it not kid-friendly?
the colors make it look like a kid show and the art quality is something that kids overlook easily compared to teens and adults. unless it was really funny, then no one would care about how it looks
@@pheonixrises11 I even messed up, I think it was rated for adult audience only, wich is hilarious and sad at the same time.
I agree, kids don't see little issues with the art quality. As a kid I would have watched something like this, for _sure!_
Yeah if they want to make a show or a book then they should consider what their target audience is
@@glanni Apparently the show was created for a child audience and the shows use of searing and blood were last minute additions (animation takes so long “last minute” doesn’t really work but you know.) I really don’t know why they didn’t just keep it a kids show.
Tbh i forgot high guardian spice was a thing until I saw this lol. Love the redesigns!~ Sage and Thyme are prob my personal fav!
Idk if this sounds cliché or not but an idea for naturey prosthetics could be made of plants, like a wooden arm with a bark-like texture? Or vines with some flowers, and it could kinda be like the pokemon deoxys. In the movie, deoxys can twists the tentacle-like arms into appearing like a more normal arm and vice versa.
Oh my gosh, that sounds like such a cool idea, I don't think it's cliché at all. Definitely gonna have to write that one down! And thank you, those two were definitely my favorites at the end too!
@@OddityIllustrations Aww thank you! I'm glad you like the idea!~
So this is only loosely related, but between this comment and Oddity herself, I got inspired to make a witch character whose magic specifically manifests via the creation and control of crystalline structures. She loses part of her arm, but in an effort to use her crystal magic to simply stop the bleeding, she ends up accidentally making a crystalline prosthetic arm for herself.
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster Okay, but that sounds so cool! Have you posted her anywhere? It sounds like such a cool magic system!
@@OddityIllustrations In still kinda working her general character out right now. And I'd probably need to commission or ask somebody else to draw her since pretty much all of my creative skill is in writing. ^^;
The fact that I can guess which state you live in just by the way you say it's on fire is at once entertaining and troubling.
Hey! I live in That State too :D. Thank God I live somewhere where I’m not surrounded by forest!
lol i think it's the same for me, thankfully the smoke hasn't been blown over where I am the past couple of multi-fires
I only got evacuated once this year and I count that as a victory💪
Bruh im really slow, But im guessing California
"Did you know women could sit down and draw things" I was doing exactly that as I was watching this video
I feel like a sorcerer called SAGE, fucking SAGE could have so many different directions and inspirations which makes it even more ridiculous they decided to go with that
Thyme went from looking like a bossy, stick in the mud older sister to a respectable one-sama!!
2:18 _“Having an all-woman, or mostly woman, team just doesn’t impress me, and honestly, it feels more misogynistic than anything else.”_
*THANK. YOU.* You are dead-on. The creators of _High Guardian Spice_ are discrediting every one of the hundreds of female artists who came before them. Every female animator, painter, director, whatever... the “diversity” pushers are tossing all their accomplishments away so that they can pretend to be trailblazers, and it’s disgusting.
Not only that, but the irony of calling themselves "diverse" and at the same time having a writing team consisting of solely white women (moreover, of the worst variety: the woke Karen type) is just a smack in the head.
@@bonbonpony yeah and isn’t the creator a trans man? Was he not in the writers room or something?
@@Abs0408 Still not an actual man though :q
For a show called "High Guardian Spice", it has no spice.
Parsley being a Tiefling does actually make sense since Tieflings have Hellish Resistance (basically fire resistance) which would be useful for a blacksmith. And yes you said Tiefling correctly.
Parsley went from looking like an annoying little sister to the coolest person in school!! I want to be her friend
Oh no, the fact this was made before it released hurts so much more. I hope you had fun watching that snorefest
Pretty sure "nature" was said a total of 8 times, including an uncounted one during Thyme's segment
Man, people are gonna be so hydrated after all those shots lol
I would love if a kids cartoon had representation for disabled people or people who are physically scarred. Not in the way they screwed up this show with diversity but like just normalizing people who are different without like pointing it out but treating them as an equal? Or something.
At first I wasn't sure how a felt about you adding vitiligo to Thyme since so many people seem to use it as a cheap aesthetic to look "diverse" but then you shared how much research you put into it and I really liked it. It's probably the first time I've seen someone design a character with vitiligo while recognizing it as an autoimmune disorder and not just some trendy skin discoloration. Kudos.
6:15 Tbh Netflix does make a lot of good shows, like have we forgotten about Castlevania or Beastars?, but it's always hit or miss, either it will be good or very bad.
technically those are already existing stories, but I see your point
What should I try to redesign next? Who is your favorite and what would you do for High Guardian Spice?
[Time Stamps]
Redesigns at 8:06
Sage at 11:25
Parsely at 15:57
Thyme at 18:19
I'm finding this video exceptionally late, so pardon the random comment, but I don't know if I can pick a favorite? Every single one of the redesigns you've made is stunning! The only one that doesn't capture my attention as much as the others is Parsley, and I still love her a lot anyway. Only thing is I kinda wish she was more blatantly muscular and also had some burns and/or scarring due to her blacksmithing work. (Edit: My mind is still on the cooking thing, so now, I'm imagining your design of Parsley carrying a huge cast iron skillet as a backup weapon. The idea may or may not have been inspired by Tangled. XD)
This is probably a kinda random idea, but I'd be kinda curious to see what you'd do if you were asked to come up with a new look for DC's Harley Quinn. No particular reason, I'm just a huge fan of the character. After watching this video, I debated asking for your interpretation of how Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy and Catwoman would be portrayed in a magical girl setting (either as villains or as their own magical girl team), but I'm sure that would be a lot to do, so you don't have to worry about it if you don't think it's something you'd be willing to do. 😅
I'd consider the possibility of tiefling Parsley having a tail. Tieflings generally have long tails, and I think having a tail that she's able to hold things with would help her with both blacksmithing and taking care of her family. Having basically an extra hand in the form of a prehensile tiefling tail in those situations sounds like something that would be helpful. Plus maybe that one ridiculous idea I had about her using a cast iron skillet as a weapon can be one of the things she uses her tail for in battle XD
I was considering the idea that, even if your version of Parsley is a tiefling, it could be interesting if there was still some dwarven influence in her design somewhere. Like maybe she was adopted by dwarves, has a dwarven mentor who she learned blacksmithing from, or is just generally fascinated by dwarven culture. I mainly bring this up because I remember you saying you gave Thyme a viking inspired hairstyle, but I mentally associate vikings with dwarves, so I thought something like that might suit Parsley whether she's a dwarf or a tiefling who low key wishes she was a dwarf.
(Also sorry I keep dumping random ideas here. I think about these redesigns way more than I probably need to ^^;)
Thyme is my favorite redesign like she look soo beautiful
I see it more like a new design than a redesign - something that could stand on its own ground, as an entirely separate show. Perhaps because I actually liked what they did with their designs in the original show. Sure, it's not kick-ass awesome, and might not be very consistent with the epoch, but it got its own unique type of cuteness to it.
as a queer person,, we don't even want to be marketed to like this. like, inclusive and well-representing shows are very welcome! but us being used as your main selling point sucks,
The magic blight scar and prosthetics on Sage is an awesome addition to the character and I can see why it's you favourite one. I would say your Parsely redesign is my favourite one. I always have a soft spot for fantasy characters with a bit of a demonic look to them and the horns you gave her help give off that vibe. Honestly all 4 of your redesigns look like something that could be pulled from the Tales of franchise.
The scars reminded me of electrical burns. You know like the ones people get after surviving a lightning strike. at least that was the vibe I got
@@zabladestorm Magic usually involves lightning so it very well could be.
Yes, definitely a very creative idea that can go places and could actually be relevant to the plot & character development.
"Magical Girl Cooking show"
Yumeiro Patisserie is an ooooolllddd anime where kids went to a cooking school and very few of them have fairies that help them a little bit in their pastry training. Its not entirely a magical girl but it sure is better than whatever HGS is.
Oooo, that sounds adorable, I’ll have to add it to my watchlist! Thanks for the recommendation!
Fun fact, when you watch good shows with a cast of characters in a group, you’ll notice that there’s unification in their color palettes. Cowboy Bebop has red, blue and yellow to unify everyone, like even if someone doesn’t have one color, they’ll have at least another. In Konosuba, they all have yellow strips around their costumes… and my god it’s such a simple rule and yet High Guardian fucked this up as well.
I never noticed that but it makes sense
ngl this is a stupid point
Damn! Sage redesign looks Fantastic, as well as the additional details surrounding her since everything else in the actual show was lacking.
And Thyme’s Elk/Satyr redesign looks Amazing! You really did a lot to make them stand out compared to a lot of the typical Fantasy trope races.
Since the show came out, can you redesign snapdragon? He seems like a generally good character and same with Amaryllis. I feel like the both of them have a lot of possibilities.
4:35 Hahaha. “Rules behind this world”. Of course they don’y say it in the trailer. They don’t say it in the show either!
I actually watched the show to know how bad it is and form my own opinion.
It took them until episode 8 to mention that the kingdom we’re in is called Scarborough.
12 episodes in, and nobody bothered to establish what a Guardian actually is. Do they serve the crown? Do they protect the world regardless of national borders? Are they just mercenaries? Are they exclusive to the city of Lingarth or are there more academies in different towns/countries? What do Guardians do besides fighting monsters? Why are they fighting monsters? Who knows!
6:23 “Let’s make another copy and paste magical show!”
No. It’s worse than that. It’d be better if it was. They didn’t even make a cookie-cutter magical show. They made it an incoherent mess.
You know, I will say that HGS did _one_ good thing, and that was giving me the kick in the butt I needed to start working on one of my original stories. Spite is a wonderful thing.
Also I love how your take on the girls looks kind of like a DnD party. They're all so heckin' _cool!_
Cant lie the redesigns really hit my DnD points. Like i can see the players for each if they were in dnd. Rosemary's Player is the anime dweeb the group loves to death who is also the only one who knows how to draw.
Sage's is new to the whole roleplay thing so made a more passive character but really likes there scarred/permanent changes and the player has played all the roots of katawa shoujo.
Parsley's player is a veteran player who just got out of 2 simultaneous hard games where min-max was a must so is rolled up just a fun, hardy laugh sort of character.
And Thyme's has a medical issue of some sort that they're playing DnD to forget about for a couple hours, but didnt feel ok with playing a "Normal" character so worked with the DM to make a character that worked. I just like how much life and potential they feel.
Yeah idk why they call high guardian spice anime. It's a cartoon at best fanfic more realistically.
yea your designs look so much better than the originals.
personalities too (they barely have any in the show anyway)
These redesigns are pretty top notch, though the bit about the fire made me laugh. Looking forward to see more vids from here on out.
Even my DnD party is more diverse and colorful than that "anime's" cast.. And we're just in our first three sessions!
Okay, so far I'm only on Rosemart but aaahhhh! I love her! I love the green patterns you added to her and I love how her torso looks like a watermelon now it's so good.
I also really like Sage! Her scarring looks really cool and I like the color scheme you chose for her! Although yeah I agree, she might be a tinge too complicated for animation.
I love Parsley's vibes! She looks so cool and the blue you used really works for the color palette. I love how you managed to turn probably my least favorite design into my favorite. Love the horns too.
Thyme is also really great! I really like her hair and her horns! The asymmetrical boots are a bit weird, but I think you managed to make it work.
Overall, infinitely better than the official designs which all scream uninspired.
I love how you made Rosemary's hair look more normal (you know, as normal as anime hair can be lol) It looks cursed and weird in the original show since there is no distinct place where the bangs separate from the pigtails. I love all the redesigns in general but that was the one thing that really stood out and bothered me in the original show.
Keeping in mind, now that the actual show is released and everything, this would have been such a cool concept for Sage
Like, the reasoning she doesn't use new magic, a part of their magic system in High Guardian Spice, is that her mother is against it. But what if it was because of some awful accident when she was younger? And maybe, if you had to keep in the "oh I still wanna learn new magic but my mother won't let me" thing, you could go with she blocked it out of her memory, or that she wants to get good enough with it so her family never has to worry about her hurting herself with new magic ever again!
I adore your designs!! They came out so good! I love what you did with Sage's design, they all look so well done. :D
I also hope the show is at least decent, But from the second trailer it just really makes me worried it's just another generic show that will be super boring. But who knows, maybe it will surprise us with some big twist and it actually turns out to be interesting or at the very least fun to watch?
It isn't anime in the way we think of anime.
Technically speaking, "anime" is just the Japanese word for "cartoon". They call anything animated an anime, even ones outside of Japan.
So, technically, everyone's right no matter what you call it.
The issue that most people have (other than the performative diversity) is that is that it's has an extremely Westernised approach from its writing to the character art that it fails to appeal to Crunchyroll's audience. It feels closer to Steven Universe and She-ra, then something out of a Japanese studio.
@@ladyjunon6305 You're right, yeah. It isn't eastern animation, I agree. Totally different tone and look
Finally, I can unironically say Spongebob is my favorite anime.
@HypnoSpace Outlaw of course yeah, this show sucks
I'm just gonna list off the random thoughts that went through my head while watching this. (Numbers 4, 5, 6 and 8 are probably the most important ones tbh)
1. A magical girl show that has something to do with cooking would be pretty awesome! I also remember having an idea for a magical girl team themed after cheerleaders. Not sure if that's a thing already, but it would be cool to see.
2. As basic as it is, I really love the whole aspect of a school made to train the next generation of magical heroes. I don't know what it is, but it's a premise that always immediately catches my attention.
3. You made Rosemary basically look like a strawberry and I love that!
4. Would it be safe to guess that Sage's prosthetics are made of wood? If the nature theme is gonna be as heavy as it is with her especially, seems like wooden prosthetics would make sense. Also, considering that the word "sage" can also describe a wise, intelligent person, I have to imagine this character is the bookworm, valedictorian type of character.
5. Parsley looks slightly more likely to be the feisty hothead than Rosemary. If not for the inherent desire/expectation for the pink character to be the main character of the story, I would probably say Parsley should be the protagonist instead just because I feel like she'd have the most to prove out of all of them. Rosemary has the issue with her mom, sure, but whether it's Parsley's dwarven self or your tiefling variant of her, there's a level of stigma surrounding what she is (especially in the case of tieflings due to their devilish/demonic heritage), and I think she'd be a more interesting character to closely follow in a story like this.
6. If you did switch Parsley and Rosemary's roles around (or just had the two more obviously share the protagonist spot), I kinda imagine it's because Parsley inspired Rosemary to become a guardian. Maybe Rosemary originally wanted nothing to do with the adventuring life both due to her mother's disappearance and because she grew up on xenophobic propaganda against non-humans, but Parsley somehow helps Rosemary and saves her life when they're both still young, which completely changes her mind on the idea.
7. I never knew vitiligo also had the capacity to impact hearing and eyesight. Thank you for adding that bit of information in the video! ❤️
8. I know the whole thing about Thyme keeping arrows in her hair was a joke, but I want that to be an actual thing now. I just want part of her magic to be that she has a small pocket dimension in her hair that she used to exclusively use as a space for her arrows, but as she slowly and begrudgingly becomes the team mom figure in the group, she regularly keeps her friends personal items in there or finds that one of them put something in her hair without asking her first 🤣
Bonus Note 1: I just realized most of these girls could potentially be the associated with one of the Greek deities. Mainly Hecate for Sage, Hestia and/or Hephaestus for Parsley, and Artemis for Thyme. Rosemary's aesthetic makes me think of Aphrodite, but her actual demeanor would be more likely to be attributed to either Athena or Nike.
Bonus Note 2: Tieflings tend to have long, prehensile tails, which I think would be really helpful for Parsley to have. Basically having an extra hand seems like it would be a good thing for a character who both does blacksmithing and takes care of most of her family. 👍🏾
Bonus Note 3: I keep imagining Thyme having powers that specifically allow her to listen to the voices of the forest (primarily the plants), and since I've learned from this video that vitiligo can cause visual impairments and/or hearing problems, I want to say that Thyme lived in the forest at first and this magic helps her see or hear better. Having to move to a city to attend the academy makes it significantly more difficult for her to see or hear as well as she usually would in the woods, so her general irritability is due to the fact that she's not fully been able to figure out how to cope with this yet.
Bonus Note 4: The concept of Rosemary growing up on xenophobic pro-human propaganda made me imagine that maybe her family is/was involved with a cult. Like they lived in a village where a human only cult had a lot of political power, and maybe the mother's disappearance had something to do with the cult, but Rosemary was only told that her mother was gone because (insert non-human species here) took her away while she was on a mission and ate her. So because of this, Rosemary never wanted to become an adventurer/guardian in the first place because she believed throwing herself into danger and mingling with non-humans would get her killed.
Bonus Note 4.5: Relating back to the last point, Rosemary's mind changes the day she meets Parsley. I'm not sure exactly how they'd end up crossing paths, but I do know Parsley would say something that Rosemary's mother always used to say, which would roughly be something like "If you have the ability to help somebody, help them. Whatever it takes. It's the right thing to do." Rosemary only ever applied this mentality to other humans, but hearing Parsley say this after saving her makes her consider that maybe her mother's advice could also apply to non-humans. That idea comes back up when the cult tries to kidnap Parsley because Rosemary ends up returning the favor and saving Parsley, which makes it so the two of them have to run for their lives, which lands them in the city where the academy is. Alternatively, Rosemary could be already part of the cult and be assigned to go to the academy to destroy both it and the city it was built in because it represents cooperation between humans and non-humans, and such an idea needs to be destroyed at its source. Running into the kind tiefling blacksmith again and spending enough time at the academy slowly changes her mindset, but she knows betraying the cult probably means death, so her morals, her upbringing, and her desire to survive all start pulling her in different directions as she tries to figure out who she wants to be and what she's supposed to do.
Bonus Note 5: Similarly to how Parsley and Rosemary's backstories overlap, Sage and Thyme's backstories could overlap slightly as well. Nature seems to be the strongest theme in the two of them in particular, and I found out through someone's review that there's a magical rot plaguing Thyme's home that a witch organization doesn't want stopped, and I think those two things could bind Thyme and Sage together. Thyme is aware that witches had something to do with the rot, so when she sees Sage in her forest one day, she thinks this might be one of the witches who caused it, but she finds out Sage really loves nature and is trying to fix the problem. There comes a point where some witches come and try to clear out Thyme and get family, and Sage uses an experimental and volatile spell to both get the evil witches to go away and clear a significant portion of the rot away, but because Thyme doesn't see Sage anywhere afterwards, she assumes Sage died in the blast. Thyme's family largely dislikes witches at this point, and though Thyme mostly shares the same sentiment, she is at least aware that good witches can exist and could be powerful enough to save their home. She goes to the city and enrolls in the academy so she can both learn to protect her home better and maybe find a kind witch that can help her, only to find Sage and see that she has prosthetic limbs now. Feeling guilty because she's certain Sage lost her arm and leg when she last saw her, Thyme decides she owes Sage a life debt and goes out of her way to protect her as much as she can. In exchange, Sage promises to devote as much time as she can to figuring out how her spell can be used again without causing significant harm to herself or others again.
Bonus Note 6: I imagine both Sage and Thyme had some kind of run-in with the cult that raised Rosemary as well. The cult probably specifically wants Parsley and Thyme because they don't want their infernal and fey power to be used against them, so Rosemary may eventually be forced to betray her own team if it'll keep the cult from taking her life.
A concept that I'll probably never do, but would love to make/see, would be a magical girl show that focuses on a premise similar to your number 2: a school that trains the next wave of warriors, but one that would focus less on the girls coming of age, but on the "mothers" raising them. It would touch on the classic coming of age theme, but would also touch on adult concepts like it being okay to pass the torch to the next generation, but also to reestablish hope for the future.
Inspired by the lack of "motherhood" shows, the annoying concept that magical girls are only for little girls, and the fact I loved the adults being useful in Naruto.
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster sounds great. Can I use your idea for making an fix fic? Maybe you can help me too. Also I'm going to publish the fic on Ao3.
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster Do you have other account so I can contact you privately?
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster Hey, should we change the character name, or keep it? Or maybe change the title.
I dunno if this was the intention, but the vitiligo on Thyme just ramps up the deer look. Maybe it's the fawn spots, I dunno. I Really like it though!
I would accept Owl House as an anime honestly. If it was actually made to be an anime instead of a kid's cartoon it would be way too good, because currently I think the quality of it is up to anime standards.
I disagree. It’s not in an anime style or made by Japan. Being an anime doesn’t mean it’ll be good and not being anime doesn’t mean it’ll be bad. And being a cartoon shouldn’t be a bad thing. The owl house is amazing as a cartoon.
@@saltydinonuggies1841 That's true but over the years my definition of what could be an anime has expanded. If Owl house had the same style and was made in Japan it would be considered an anime so style does not really matter in anime anymore. I am not saying I am calling Owl House an anime, but if it was made by crunchyroll and they produced it instead of high guardian then I would accept it as an anime. But you're right
@@nekotoxin8039 I disagree on the Crunchyroll part, but I still don't think the Owl House _looks_ like an anime. Anime characters are usually drawn like real people, they do exaggerate for the sake of the style but they're still based on the figure of a real person, and while the Owl House does seem to have different body types that are close to real people, the noticeable differences are that it falls under the same category of having the framework of the characters already exaggerated and meant to be in a more childish or chibi way, like the head being bigger than the length of the shoulders or torso. That's why it seems more closely to Gravity falls or Steven Universe, their framework was already exaggerated despite having realistic touches/details to them.
And even though you find examples of anime characters that are under the category - _Most_ anime's emphasise that the characters' framework are based off of a real person's framework, but with some exaggerated touches. Basically the opposite of the Owl House, having a realistic framework with exaggerated touches.
The closest you can get to an anime is perhaps the Legend of Korra, The Boondocks and Trese, and they all completely look unlike the Owl House just for the fact that they're more realistically built.
@@Пинагод im glad people extremely picky on anime people like you exist, tired of being told my obviously western art is anime inspired
I really like the little tabards you gave to all of them. It's a great was to make them look like a team without compromising their personal aesthetics!
would watch this if it was a cooking show like maybe the world have bland cooking nothing new just simple stuff and these girls are trying new things wanting to add more flavor but the people are closed minded about trying new foods so these girls create their own restaurant and have to work hard to keep it open along with a few episode of them going out getting new ingredients to try and create something new for their menu
Aw, I wanna watch your show, that sounds so wholesome! How do we get funding for this?
@@OddityIllustrations start it off as a web comic then let the money roll in with shirts and plushies of the characters the main characters would be a dark elf, a goblin, a kobold (eastern version meaning dog person) and a Tetra Arm (which is a race of large muscular people with four or six set of arms)
so with this they are from different walks of life and parts of the world so each would have their own different tastes so you can throw in accepting others for who they are but not through stuffing it down others throats but through in some little fights here and there and them working on their own problems so not everything can be about the restaurant or gathering ingredients and would flesh out their character out.
Just wanted to contribute something to this idea! Base the main character on someone like Xiangling from Genshin Impact. He whole thing is that she's a chef who's always using bizarre ingredients in her food but is really good at making those bizarre ingredients taste amazing in whatever dish she makes. She's also got a lot of energy and seems to throw herself headfirst into dangerous situations all the time just so she can find rare ingredients, which I think would be really fitting for a protagonist of a story like this, especially if the setting is still going to have some strong fantasy elements!
@@AzariahMarinaStarcaster That's a really good idea, maybe I can have the Kobold be like that since they would have a very strong sense of smell would be able to smell how good the food would be even if the ingredients looks strange and bizarre
These redesigns are beautiful! I have a soft spot for your Thyme. The deer girl idea is so cute and creative!
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Yo you have one of the most level headed critique I have heard on RUclips. I really enjoyed it.
Also your design are great.
If you want something unique for the dwarf, could try mild facial hair. Since the female dwarves originally had heavy beards to further separate themselves with humans so that could be a thing. And it'd also help to keep her unique and different from the rest and most importantly, memorable.
Well, the blacksmith character being a Tiefling is also kind of a trope in DnD. Tieflings due to their infernal ancestry are resistant to fire.
Also in the show (what little glimpses I saw of it now) the blacksmith character gave me more of a halfling vibe, rather that a dwarf.
With Parsley in my suggestion was to make her more Goblinlike in appearance like the old Norse mythology as opposed to the Tolkien style. As the Tolkien style dwarf is rather overdone so why not mix it up.
For sage I think we could push the whole "mutilated" thing a little bit more. What if the prostetics aren't "magical" and are just pieces of wood? As a result of her condition she could have entered a symbaiotic relationship with the vines that cover half her body: she feeds it magical energy to keep it alive and in exchange she gets to control the vines, the prostetics being a vest/armour/puppets that the vines get in or around and actually move. This way we can even give her non-human prostetics with all sort of useful tools, all she has to do is to leave the prostetic then grab with her vines the new one
With the nature witch + prosthetic idea: what if it’s a wooden prosthetic or generally made of a living plant? She can have it hold hand shape or change it when she needs it to. It could also be somewhat symbiotic with her since she’s lost a limb. Maybe if you want a dark angle it’s got roots in her skin, feeds on her blood, that sort of thing.
Holy crap your Thyme redesign is so cool. Like seriously, the show just went with "generic elf girl: edgy/moody archer edition". Your version is so much more visually interesting; I especially love how you did the antlers. And using vitiligo as faun spots was brilliant.
I love it!
I would like see more redesings too
Parsley reminded me of an Oni, like Itto from Genshin Impact and others
“I wanna see magical girl cooking.”
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Anyway, I love your point about female creators throughout history, especially Japanese anime and manga creators. Unfortunately, we Americans like to think everything we do is groundbreaking, so the contributions of women outside of the USA don’t count. It only matters when we do it.
Honestly, I believe more people like you should get into the animation industry! You’ve already proven your strengths as a character artist and it’s clear you have a true knack for story telling!! Plus you’ve already shown that even RUclips creators are much more adapt at making artwork and a well written story then even a big industry ( crunchy roll) could! I look forward to more from you.
P.s.- thanks for bringing up full metal alchemist I love that show! Also I love your thyme redesign!
"I don't go outside much, it's always on fire" I can really relate.
Rosemary, Parsley & Sage kinda remind me of a few characters from another magical girl show.......
Madoka, Mami & Sayaka from Puella Magi Madoka Magica!!!
You mean an actual magical girls show.
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@@sakuracardcaptor4709 Good point. =P
Brilliant
We already have Guardians.
It's called W.I.T.C.H lol
Isn't Witch just a child friendly version of Charmed?
Fun fact:
humans have stripes like tigers do, they are just about the same color as the rest of our skin so it's mostly invisible to us, cats on the other hands see our stripes very easily.
But how does this relate to the video:
Thyme, she having vitiligo would be backed up by the stripes in humans and evolution of her people living in the woods and the necessity to blend in the environment for both defence against predators and for hunting. So it would make SCIENTIFIC SENSE to give her this. Also antlers are a really good weapon on the animal kingdom.
Anyway, good design
W.i.t.c.h., an Italian Disney comic, is created by Elisabetta Gnone, a woman, and it's much better than High Guardian Spice. It was created in 2001 and ended in 2012. It was very VERY popular among the masses (even boys read it), because it didn't use "created by a woman" as a selling point. Markets wanted only to sell a unique story and it worked. It's still loved by its fans.
Making Parsley a tiefling is actually genius because it adds a whole lot more to her character. Tieflings in DnD came about because somewhere down the line, someone either made a deal with a fiendish entity or had a baby with a tiefling, but the latter doesn't always guarantee tiefling baby. So after a few generations of normal babies, you suddenly have a tiefling baby (though tiefling dwarves are rather rare).
Ok but your thyme do be simp worthy 😳😳😳
I like Thyme becoming a deer like creature who is an archer.
These designs are so much more pleasing! Though one thing is usually (from my archery experience and seeing other archers and designs) the left arm (or the one that holds the bow depending on eye dominance) is uncovered. The bow string is too likely to get caught on fabric and bulky materials! Good archers know how you extend their arm the right way so the string won't snag on your skin, but the same can't be said for bulky and loose materials.
The thought and effort into the design is amazing though and I didn't think anyone would think of the bow string snagging on something.
I'm normally not a fan of vitiligo on characters because it's so massively overdone in fanart and OCs recently, but I think in this case it would actually work for Thyme, because she's clearly deer-inspired and the coloration pattern matches that.
I absolutely adore your character redesigns, and your advice is great, gives me a lot to chew through for my own character designs.
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Something i thought would be cool for a redesign of parsley is making her hair look like a bunch of parsley bunched together!
Oooo! That would have been so cool! Dang it, now I wanna change it!🤣
Oh crap, I didn’t know you changed your channel name. The minute you spoke I knew who you were. But yeah, glad you are covering this.
i loved your re-designs!
Thank you so much!
I have seen a lot of hate on this show since it premiered, and I’m glad someone decided to give some love to the actual character design than the creators.
These look more fun to model in 3D like ZBrush.
I also don’t have a problem getting inspiration from D&D. The Dark Sun campaign world, at least 2nd edition D&D had changes to the basic races you may like in future characters.
Ahh I really love that you focused on the nature theme!! (Plus I especially love Thyme and the fact you made her a fawn, it makes her so adorable! As well as the way you draw eyes) Honestly the only thing I’d change about these is Rosemary’s hair! To me the pink pigtails screams way too much Madoka but honestly that was more in the show itself? Like somehow you made it not as bothersome for me despite literally adding bows too lol. If I were to change it to anything I’d make it short pink and curly as it’s not a hairstyle I see much but I think it’s really cute
For Rosemary you could have instead done a design where she wears a Curas and a shoulder guard like the first magic armor gear Hikaru, Umi and Fuu wear in Magic Knight Rayearth. It would allow a decent starting point for her and with Parsly being a forgemaster's assistant ( not shown in trailer) allows room for the armor to grow with the character.
With Parsley you could have made her more goblin like in design ( like the original description of dwarves in Norse mythology) but instead show her being a tinkerer of magical constructs as opposed to old fashioned set in their ways dwarves. And a good insult maker wouldn't hurt the character.
Whoooa your designs are stunning??? And much more inclusive than the ogs one. Seriously, they're all so beautiful!
Not important but I always thought high guardian spice was gonna have something to do with cooking and fighting cause ya know high GUARDIAN SPICE but anyway love the re-designs
You want a cooking/baking themed magical girl show? watch kira kira precure! baking is a major element in that show, to the point where the main character's cure designs and personalities are based around a particular food (and animal). its a very underappreciated precure season which is a shame because the characters are really good. The up coming precure season judging by its name, Delicious Party Precure seems to have a cooking theme as well, but we'll just have to wait and see when that comes out next year
This show needed to marinate more, they have a nice base set of ideas and honestly I was able to make an entire world based on the bare bones ideas of:
Guardians, special jobs for magic users,
As well as the characters are still in the placeholder stage mostly based on their inspiration, especially olive(?) (idk what cat girl is)
The fantasy idea with modern clothing is cool, magitect could be used. I like the animation Raye did with a beta-Rosemary much more than than the final product. It has a dungeon crawler feeling and the backgrounds ar simple but charming kinda like adventure time backgrounds.
Thank God another woman had to point out being made by women isn't special and that being made by a staff of 90% women isn't diverse at all. Their community would completely disregard it if it was being said by a man.
When you mention magical girl cooking anime, theres also Kira Kira Precure A la mode! I love the music of it so much and it's worth a watch if you haven't seen it
Okay, but imagine if the "accident" that sage got into had to do with new magic or something? Which would explain why she and her parents are so wary of it. I'd be nice to see her try out new magic and overcome that fear of hers. Just a thought though!
THYME BEING LIKE A WHITE TAIL DEER AND ALSO HAVING VITILIGO IS SUCH A STRONG VISUAL. i loved that so so much. i love tiefling parsley. this is an awesome lineuo
Your design for Thyme was my favorite 🥺💕💕💕
Thyme was my favorite of the redesigns! I love the effort and interest into the research of vitiligo as well, thats what made it so interesting and favorable for me, plus the artstyle is just beautiful❤
I often give characters i make half-face burns or prosthetic limbs too so I very much understand your choices with Sage... Also Deer Thyme is A+
Honestly Thyme's redesign is fricking beautfiul
for the blacksmith tieflings have fire resist meaning they would do great as a blacksmith as they could deal with the heat better than most!