Who Wrote the Epistles?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2021
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    * Alter, Robert (2011). The Art of Biblical Narrative. Basic Books.
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    * Coogan, Michael (2001) The Oxford History of the Biblical World. Oxford University Press
    * Finkelstein, Israel & Neil Asher Silberman (2001). The Bible Unearthed. Free Press.
    * Kugel, James (2007). How to Read the Bible. Free Press.
    * Stein, Robert H. (2001). Studying the Synoptic Gospels: Origin and Interpretation. Baker Academic.
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  • @beretperson
    @beretperson 2 года назад +492

    "everyone agrees there's no way Paul actually wrote Hebrews."
    "Hebrews is the most eloquent and polished book in the new testament"
    Brutal.

    • @ngyuhng8324
      @ngyuhng8324 2 года назад +51

      I don't necessarily think this a critique of Paul's prose quality. Another common reason for rejecting Pauline authorship for the Hebrews is due to the style of intertextuality that Hebrews employs in contrast to Paul. Hebrews is suffuse with quotes and allusions to the Hebrew Scriptures, with varying degrees of clarity and obscurity to the point where the actual number of 'quotes' is still debated, which is different from how Paul quotes from the OT.

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад +15

      Author and Writer aren’t always the same guy, also. Kinda like biography and autobiography. The point being Paul’s POV is presumed autobiographical due to his job in the scheme of things being an orator. Meaning, he spoke and someone listened and recorded while God/Jesus spoke to him.

    • @tom_curtis
      @tom_curtis 2 года назад +37

      Paul, by his own attestation was a very messy writer. His own works were theologically complex and eloquent, but did not have a polished Greek style. I don't think any insult was intended.

    • @user-rf9mx4qf7z
      @user-rf9mx4qf7z 2 года назад +7

      @@ngyuhng8324 Quotes and allusions to the Hebrew Scriptures though could easily be explained by the intended recipients (hint in the title). Paul may quote the OT less in the other epistles, but it's clearly not due to any lack of knowledge of the OT. This would also explain why the epistle is anonymous - Paul starts all his epistles with "Paul, an apostle", however he clearly states in his speech in Acts that he was an apostle *to the gentiles*. Which would explain why he'd refrain from using the title when addressing Jews.

    • @appnzllr
      @appnzllr 2 года назад +5

      There is no way to prove that Paul wrote Hebrews. The author does not state his name. The Bible is a can of worms when you attempt to study its origin.

  • @kaylasargent2590
    @kaylasargent2590 2 года назад +87

    An interesting note about Pricilla: when she and her husband are referred to in Paul’s letters, it’s always “Pricilla and Aquilla,” which was super uncommon for the time. Men were always mentioned first, so the fact that Paul reverses that order is honestly fascinating.

  • @billmartin3561
    @billmartin3561 2 года назад +454

    Can you do a historical chart of the early church fathers and their relationship to the apostles and ultimately Jesus? This would be so helpful.

    • @TheWalz15
      @TheWalz15 2 года назад +12

      Oh I would love this!

    • @Daniel_Abraham1099
      @Daniel_Abraham1099 2 года назад +8

      Second this!!!!

    • @originalblob
      @originalblob 2 года назад +12

      Great idea. You cannot underestimate the influence of St. Augustine etc.

    • @infotruther
      @infotruther 2 года назад +1

      Third this to

    • @dstarkspp
      @dstarkspp 2 года назад

      What insight would this be helpful

  • @ronakbhadra6400
    @ronakbhadra6400 2 года назад +697

    There's a small mistake in your video...There IS a mention of a member of Jesus's family in Pauline epistles...James, the brother of Jesus(the Lord's brother) is mentioned in Galatians (1:19)...Paul claims to know Jesus's brother James- in fact, this is one of the strongest arguments given by secular critical scholars for the existence of historical Jesus. Apart from this, fantastic video...I love this series and always wait for your videos...❤

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 года назад +31

      Yes, this is so.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +341

      Oh, excellent. I did not know that.

    • @LandgraabIV
      @LandgraabIV 2 года назад +19

      I was about to say that!

    • @XarXXon
      @XarXXon 2 года назад +64

      Except, "brother of the lord" is a term still used to describe fellow members of the cult. And Saul/Paul considered all christians "brothers and sisters" as read in his letters.

    • @ronakbhadra6400
      @ronakbhadra6400 2 года назад +116

      @@XarXXon In the Pauline epistles, the phrase "The Lord's brother" has not been used to describe anyone else other than James, as far as I know...If you know any other reference, you can tell me...🙂

  • @therongjr
    @therongjr 2 года назад +75

    I took a creative writing class at my (very religious) college, and one of the assignments was to write a Pauline-style epistle. It was so easy, because of the similar writing style between them: of a four-page paper, after the greetings and salutations were essentially copy-and-pasted from the existing ones, I needed only to write one page from my own imagination. (I got an A+!)

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 Год назад +3

      If you had founded 5 businesses and you wanted to wish them all happy holidays with some added notes of encouragement I would wager your letters would also all have the same style if not directly copied from each other. The controversy is when you write a different memo to one of those companies later and it no longer shares the style of the holiday greeting does that prove someone else wrote it.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +3

      @@gorkyd7912 For that you can always claim that a holiday letter obviously would be different than a formal memo.

  • @alexwilliamns
    @alexwilliamns 2 года назад +81

    I really appreciate how you go through the methodology of how we figure out who wrote (or may have written) these books. Helps make more sense of how these conclusions are drawn.

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 года назад +2

      Indeed he has a very good methodology to explain facts.

    • @sentientflower7891
      @sentientflower7891 2 года назад +4

      Textual criticism is not an easy subject to summarize as it took about 300 years of scholarship to work out.

    • @steveschulte8696
      @steveschulte8696 2 года назад +4

      Textural analysis is based on the vocabulary used. Did the author use certain words more frequently in any text than another author. The analysis is based on the usage of words in close proximity to other words, say in a phrase. The analysis continues to look at the subjects addressed in the text, what words are used to describe the themes say. The words that modern readers read are affected by the various translators and transcribers of the past. The best text are the earliest text in Greek or Aramaic or Hebrew.
      For the Pauline epistles, the theology of various letters center on main theological themes that Paul is expressing.
      Textural analysis has been used to look at plays of Shakespeare, or to compare the Iliad to the Odyssey.

  • @bromponie7330
    @bromponie7330 2 года назад +48

    6:00 - Ephesians is alluded to by Ignatius (AD 107) and other apostolic fathers, so they cannot reasonably be placed around that time, even if you don't accept their genuine authorship.
    7:00 - What you say is absolutely correct, these are letters, not biographies, but Paul actually does refer to several of those: Jesus' brothers are talked about (1 Cor 9:15, Gal 1:19), and some of Jesus' sermons (on divorce see 1 Cor 7:10-11). People should give Paul his credit lol

    • @chrishall2594
      @chrishall2594 2 года назад +12

      The epistles were all written in response to particular problems and issues as well. Its not unreasonable to assume they would only mention relevant things.
      Its also highly possible for believers that some letters may have been longer and later trimmed down, God only preserving theological necessities. God doesn't care about literal details.

    • @holtscustomcreations
      @holtscustomcreations 2 года назад +5

      Paul also reminds the Corinthians of the last supper and communion as a general practice. He uses almost identical language as what we find in the Gospels.

  • @kevinmckenna5682
    @kevinmckenna5682 2 года назад +66

    There are references to two events from Jesus' life in the writings of Paul: the Last supper, and Jesus' teachings against divorce. But the basic reason Paul doesn't talk about Jesus' life is because it was irrelevant to why he wrote his letters. He wrote to resolve disputes in the communities he was writing to, and the events of Jesus' life are irrelevant to that.

    • @Napoleonic_S
      @Napoleonic_S 2 года назад +5

      well, my counter points :
      1. the last supper in paul's letter is devoid of details, no mention of the supposed disciples, unlike the gospel accounts, but from the gospels we are supposedly to be informed that it was during that event that judas made his betrayal move, such an important detail, which bring me to the next point...
      2. you may say that such details are irrelevant, but then supposedly the letters predate the gospels, so it's actually unknowable as to whether or not the receivers of said letters are aware of the entire jesus stories like the ones depicted in the gospels, you can only assume that the receivers were aware of those specific jesus stories after you yourself were made aware of the gospel stories in the first place. while on the other hand, paul's letters were in fact told us about a different kind of jesus (a fully divine, celestial one ish).
      3. therefore it's not impossible, from historical scientific point of view that the jesus that the earliest christians believed in was different than what most christian later believed, after the gospels became popular and canonized.... heck, even from these letters and other nt books, we can see that there were different kind of christians even back then, if not, why then the bible say things like: "beware of people who preached different gospels to you" ? those who "orthodox" christians deemed as "heretics" were and still are today, nothing more than evolved christians cults from scientific point of view.

    • @Abk367
      @Abk367 2 года назад +13

      @@Napoleonic_S letters are supposed to be brief and to the point.paul never expected that his letters would one day be held in high esteem .he also makes it very clear why he is writing the letter.The account of the life and teachings of christ were transmitted orally infact the gospel and its main teachings were spread through word of mouth not by books and definitely not through a letter.(For the majority of the people back then were illiterates )the teaching of christ were written down later to ensure their survival in the time of intense persecution.

    • @Napoleonic_S
      @Napoleonic_S 2 года назад

      @@Abk367
      I know that, and that doesn't challenge the points I raised before. We can only assume that the earliest christians believed the same Christianity that later became dominant, after we ourselves get exposed with the gospels themselves.
      But Paul wrote a not so similar kind of Jesus, and also why then do you think that Paul did not get involved with or even converted from the orally transmitted teachings that were similar to the ones in those letters that he later wrote about?
      Also we all know how inconsistent oral tradition can be, which support the notion that Christianity could have evolved from mythical Jesus first.

    • @Abk367
      @Abk367 2 года назад +8

      @@Napoleonic_S a fully divine christ? Have you even read the letters?Paul's writings emphasized the crucifixion, Christ's resurrection and the second coming of Christ. Paul saw Jesus as Lord (kyrios), the true messiah and the Son of God, who was promised by God beforehand, through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures. While being a biological descendant from David ("according to the flesh" from romans 1:3).Jesus has to be fully human and fully man to serve as an attonment or to be the second Adam .This is at the core of Paul's teachings. None of these things contradict anything present in the gospels .like I said the letters he wrote were to the point .Paul also believed that's his teachings are consistent with that of the teachings of his fellow apostles like Peter(1st Corinthians ).

    • @Napoleonic_S
      @Napoleonic_S 2 года назад

      @@Abk367
      Paul's crucifiction narrative is also different than the multiple accounts depicted in the gospels. Again you can only assume that Paul's narrative is the same with the gospels after you yourself were aware of the gospels in the first place.

  • @wilberforce95
    @wilberforce95 2 года назад +143

    I don't know if you're already planning to do this, but I would love a final wrap-up video for this series that summarizes everything.

    • @Saka_Mulia
      @Saka_Mulia 2 года назад +6

      The catechism of UsefulCharts?

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад +1

      It doesn’t matter who wrote it. Paul was on the phone with God during the live recording of the conversation/discourse/narrative, basically. It’s just a fancy way of showing how the mechanics manifested from where Jesus left off. We’re basically looking at what’s written in text message format🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @-_Nuke_-
      @-_Nuke_- 2 года назад

      THIS

  • @OrchestrationOnline
    @OrchestrationOnline 2 года назад +175

    Hey there UsefulCharts, this is a good summary - but I feel that it lacks some context. It would have been nice in the case of the pseudepigrapha to know a little bit about why the documents were written, and from which early Christian communities - according to bible scholars. Knowing that a document was NOT written by James is not the same thing as knowing who scholars think MIGHT have written it, and why. Providing these details would help spark interest and some kind of basis from which interested viewers could move forward in their own study of the topic.

    • @BlackDocP
      @BlackDocP 2 года назад +2

      @@mingledingle1556 Anytime a book is rejected, you know its worth reading over the Pauline writings. James, Jude, the Didache all represent the purest form of the teachings. They didn't leave any room for a "Vicor of Christ" type of organization, which Paul turned the Gospel into despite not being a chosen disciple

    • @OrchestrationOnline
      @OrchestrationOnline 2 года назад +17

      @@BlackDocP James and Jude are the purest form of teaching the beliefs of their faction, as the John epistles and gospel represent Johannine Christianity, and the Pauline epistles represent Paul's beliefs in their purest form. But there's still nothing to say that any of these represent the core beliefs of the first generation of Christians more truly than any other. The Gnostic texts were also rejected; and while they're also worth reading, they're probably the furthest from the original teachings. From the viewpoint of the scholar, each thread of beliefs arising from the original mission of Jesus represents a separate attempt to make sense out the teachings, and adapt them to a new worldview - and each of those attempts are so utterly different at times to be incompatible, even side-by-side within the accepted texts of the New Testament.

    • @the_clawing_chaos
      @the_clawing_chaos 2 года назад +15

      Some believe that the Psudepigrapha was written to help cement early christian beliefs against certain heresies.
      It is a huge mistake to think that the Christians of the second and third centuries followed the same dogma as the Catholic or Orthodox churches do today; there were many different sects believing in many different interpretations of Jesus' life, such as Adoptionism (Jesus was not born as the son of god, but rather was adopted at some point in his life). Docetism (Jesus was pure spirit and his physical form an illusion) or even Marcionism (that the God of Jesus was a different God from the God of the old testament). The argument is that these extra books were added to counter these once dominant ideas. Of course, that is just one theory...
      Early Christian Heresy is a very interesting topic! Alas I don't think it could be fitted in a Chart so no videos on it here.

    • @Dan_Capone
      @Dan_Capone 2 года назад +3

      @@the_clawing_chaos I don't think those ideas were ever dominant. The ancient world wasn't as connected as we are today, they didn't have internet or any means of instant communication, so of course some weird ideas would develop between certain communities, and it's true there was an effort to correct these weird ideas, precisely because they were weird and had nothing to do with what most Christians believed.

    • @DIDCHOI
      @DIDCHOI 2 года назад +1

      Totally agree Thomas. I was thinking the same thing!

  • @reedsexton3973
    @reedsexton3973 Год назад +9

    Matt thank you so much for actually putting captions on your videos. So many RUclipsrs can't be bothered to do this, even those who could easily afford it. I and probably a lot of deaf people really appreciate it.

  • @kingshelomah7083
    @kingshelomah7083 2 года назад +18

    Time moves so fast. I never expect these to come out as soon as they do. Being surprised definitely makes these more satisfying of course.

  • @shani2926
    @shani2926 2 года назад +27

    Christianity.. such a fascinating religion. I went to a Catholic skl and learnt abt Jesus and got interested in wanting to known more. I read the bible from the skl and watched movies abt Jesus with my dad. Jesus was truly a great person in how Christianity presented Him and it was sad how He got crucified. To every Christians in the world get closer to God and stay happy do not convert if u r forced 💪 God bless all of you. Love from a Hindu

    • @Deto4508
      @Deto4508 Год назад +1

      Have you ever though about becoming Christian brother

    • @shani2926
      @shani2926 Год назад +10

      @@Deto4508 Back then yes. But then I started learning more abt my religion and become to love Shri Krishna so much.

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy Год назад +2

      Thanks, brother! 😎👍🏻
      Back atcha. Much love to my Indo-Aryan kin.

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy Год назад +1

      @@Deto4508 Do these videos annoy you at all?

    • @Deto4508
      @Deto4508 Год назад +2

      @@shani2926 I just think when we look at the evidence, Christ made claims only God can make and he ended up proving it, so many of his apostles were willing to die on that truth. Maybe you can look into the historicity of Christianity because Jesus made heavy claims and proved it and said that to see eternal life in heaven that we would have to follow him.

  • @lostfan5054
    @lostfan5054 2 года назад +35

    I LOVE this series. I could watch material like this all day every day.
    I'm on my way to buy your charts to hang on my wall.

  • @MO-bo2du
    @MO-bo2du 2 года назад +9

    One of my favorite series on RUclips (along with Esoterica’s Kabbalah lectures). This is such great content, thank you

  • @logankrecic496
    @logankrecic496 2 года назад +7

    Love the video, I stumbled across this as I was studying for my exam, I’m a history major , thank you so much for your videos they help a lot, I’ll show them to my students when I become a teacher

  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +9

    UPDATE: A summary chart is now available: usefulcharts.com/collections/religion/products/timeline-of-the-bible
    Complete Series:
    1. Torah - ruclips.net/video/NY-l0X7yGY0/видео.html
    2. Prophets - ruclips.net/video/IAIiLSMOg3Q/видео.html
    3. Writings - ruclips.net/video/Oto0UvG6aVs/видео.html
    4. Apocrypha - ruclips.net/video/HYlZk4Hv-E8/видео.html
    5. Gospels & Acts - ruclips.net/video/Z6PrrnhAKFQ/видео.html
    6. Epistles - ruclips.net/video/2UMlUmlmMlo/видео.html
    7. Daniel & Revelation - ruclips.net/video/fTURdV0c9J0/видео.html
    8: Summary Chart - ruclips.net/video/9uIXzUEwrOg/видео.html

  • @nathandlogosmusic1106
    @nathandlogosmusic1106 2 года назад +14

    There are two main reasons why the Pastoral Epistles are thought to be Pseudopigrapha. One is that they presume a much more complex church organization and hierarchy than was present in Paul's time. There are frequent mentions of bishops, elders, and practices and traditions that took place at church meetings. The second reason is because they present a view of women that is much more patriarchal than that which is present in Paul's genuine epistles. Paul wasn't a big fan of marriage but tolerated it as a necessity. He viewed women as more-or-less equal to men and praised a number of female church leaders. The Pastorals, in contrast, present a patriarchal hierarchy in which the church is structured to resemble the family unit with the husband being the head of the house and the wife expected to be silent, compliant, and modest. The date I have frequently seen for the probable writing of the Pastorals is around 120-140 AD. I don't remember when those books were first mentioned by later church writers. Does anyone know?

    • @Sgman1991
      @Sgman1991 2 года назад +4

      1 Corinthians 11 would seem to disagree. Paul, in this letter, specifically puts men in the position of authority over women.
      "3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and [a]the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ."
      There's also this in Ephesians 5:
      22 Wives, subject yourselves to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.

    • @Sgman1991
      @Sgman1991 2 года назад +4

      @@natchitoches6702 The authorship of Ephesians is still debated. There really is no standard or accepted view.
      With that said, a very similar concept is present in 1 Corinthians as well.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад +1

      @@Sgman1991 Sometime you wish that Paul had stayed silent or wrote a better situation as to how to deal with the problem of gossiping women (who can be quite spiteful and I can see how church issues that loose the friendship element can be thrown back on them) and giggling girls. (not that fellas are really much better).

    • @danielkelly2210
      @danielkelly2210 Год назад +3

      @@Sgman1991 That part of 1 Corinthians may be a later interpolation. It doesn't seem to flow naturally with the rest of the text.

  • @john-bloss
    @john-bloss 2 года назад +2

    Thank you. These are fascinating and extremely well organized and presented. It is a credit to your work that so many people who are clearly knowledgeable about these subjects follow and discuss your work.

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre Год назад +1

    Your presentation is perfect. A real joy to see the result of your work.

  • @kathybrocato5148
    @kathybrocato5148 2 года назад +4

    I bought your book and would love to see this series made into another book. I can’t hang charts and a book lets me unfold them when I want to look at them. Great series.

  • @redrovermedia964
    @redrovermedia964 2 года назад +5

    I am so grateful to you for mentioning Howard Bloom’s theory about the Book of J. Whether or not his theory is plausible, it’s a testament to your intellectual honesty and academic rigor that you included it.

  • @lafcursiax
    @lafcursiax 2 года назад

    Grateful as always for the excellent summary, and especially the mention of notable apocrypha!

  • @kencusick6311
    @kencusick6311 2 года назад

    I do enjoy these. They make good reminders for those of us who did this many years ago. Helps bring some of it up to date.

  • @hankvandenakker4271
    @hankvandenakker4271 2 года назад +6

    WONDERFUL WORKS!
    I IMAGINE YOU'D BE A GREAT TEACHER, AND YOUR STUDENTS ARRIVE EARLY, ENJOY SOME KNOWLEDGE, AND HANG AROUND AFTER CLASS AND ASK QUESTIONS.

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Год назад +11

    Thank you yet again for yet another excellent video.
    On the subject of "Paul never mentioned anything Jesus did in his letters" I look on the many educational letters I've written to junior colleagues as a doctor. Never once have I written anything along the lines of "...as you know..." One starts from shared understanding and concentrates on the subject at hand, so why repeat what is already well understood? Especially where one is trying to communicate important issues of nuance or indeed correction.

  • @DanielLopez-xg7ng
    @DanielLopez-xg7ng 2 года назад

    Thank you, I have been looking for this information for years, and now you bring it to me, with structure and logic. Now, Paul makes sense to me. Thanks a lot.

  • @Newcras
    @Newcras 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always Matt!

  • @nathanoliver9237
    @nathanoliver9237 2 года назад +25

    If the book of Hebrews is a letter written to the Jews of Jerusalem how could it be written after 70 AD

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +21

      Good point. I should have said, "to the Jews in Judea/Palestine". Not everyone died during the destruction of Jerusalem but obviously many did move to other places around that time.

    • @alaskaroy
      @alaskaroy 2 года назад +23

      The Romans destroyed the Temple in 70 CE and made things very difficult for Jews but did not *expel* the Jews from Jerusalem until the Romans put down the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 CE.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 2 года назад +2

      ​@@alaskaroy Correct. Jerusalem was returned to the Jews after the first revolt and there was even an attempt by Trajan to fund a rebuilding of the Temple. According to the Talmud this effort was sabotaged by the Samaritans who provided Trajan with "wrong" dimensions for the Temple, prompting the Pharisees who were then in control of the religious leadership to reject it. However, we now know that multiple sects of Jews had different views about the dimensions of the Temple. In fact, the Qumranic community left behind a layout of their "correct" Temple complete with their scathing commentary on how Herod and the Sadducees screwed up when they renovated it. In any case, if there had been a dispute over the dimensions of the Temple in Trajan's time, enough Jews must have moved back into Jerusalem to bicker amongst themselves about those dimensions. That said, according to the Talmud at this time the Jerusalem Church was long gone as the Christians actually left the city BEFORE the first revolt. If James the Just in Josephus is the same James, brother of the Lord, then the Christians probably left after their leader was killed.

    • @Vmac1394
      @Vmac1394 2 года назад +2

      I would place Hebrews before the Second Temple's destruction. The author establishing Jesus as an eternal high priest and priests of the order of Melchizedek seemed to me as the author giving Jewish Christians alternatives to the Jewish Aronide/Levite priesthood which was based on descent from Aaron and was based in the temple with the author clarifying that Jesus was the ultimate, final sacrifice so these Christians would not need to interact with the Temple or Sadducees at all.

    • @krzysztofciuba271
      @krzysztofciuba271 2 года назад +3

      @@UsefulCharts But the author writes as if there was still the Temple;hence, it was written before AD 70 for sure!! Have u studied theology or learn it from comics?

  • @kyrylolut1104
    @kyrylolut1104 2 года назад +8

    Hi, here is another quote to fix the claims in this video, where Paul actually mentions Jesus teaching and facts about His life:
    "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes". 1 Corinthians 11:23-26
    It is story, which we know from Gospels with quoting of Jesus. Paul is familiar with it

    • @jonathansobieski2962
      @jonathansobieski2962 Год назад

      “For I received from the lord that which I passed onto you” literally means Jesus himself told Paul the stuff that Paul is now telling his audience. Paul is telling us that he learned about “the LORD’s supper” (note LORD and not LAST) because Jesus told him about it in a vision. Paul had a vision of Jesus doing this and used his vision as a basis for a ritual Christian meal.

  • @doloreslehmann8628
    @doloreslehmann8628 2 года назад

    I definitely needed this today - thanks!

  • @je9026
    @je9026 2 года назад +1

    This is so fascinating and interesting!

  • @thomasdixon4373
    @thomasdixon4373 2 года назад +40

    I don't know much about the epistles but I'm always happy to learn especially through your videos! Would a vid on religious relics be possible in future?

    • @anneeq008
      @anneeq008 2 года назад

      Brilliant idea 👍

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      When yours actually does stuff considering where it should be currently on the store shelf, because sometimes people forget about the tags before it’s put on😂

  • @whymedk
    @whymedk 2 года назад +26

    I'm pretty sure Paul and John shared writing credits on most of the most know ones.
    And I know Ringo got a couple too :D

    • @stephenfiore9960
      @stephenfiore9960 2 года назад

      …..poor George, no mention of him. No wonder why he wrote “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”

    • @enmunate
      @enmunate 2 года назад

      He wrote about octopuses

    • @tpw7250
      @tpw7250 Год назад

      @@enmunate octopie

  • @1926jqg
    @1926jqg 2 года назад +1

    This video series is excellent and very interesting.

  • @gilgoofthegrove5072
    @gilgoofthegrove5072 2 года назад

    a fitting name, i did find these charts helpful for visualizing, thanks for your hard work =)

  • @MrChristopher586
    @MrChristopher586 2 года назад +25

    I like the content of your videos. However, content aside, your voice alone is great to listen to. Ever consider doing book readings? Like Lord of the Rings. Or even just ancient texts or genealogy documents of interests? Would you consider doing a video where you just read an english translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh? Just a straight read with some commentary at the end?

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 года назад +2

      Lord of the Ring is one thing Gilgamesh is something very different.

    • @nathandlogosmusic1106
      @nathandlogosmusic1106 2 года назад

      I second this. You've got an outstanding audiobook voice.

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper 2 года назад

      It would be very cool if he read the entire bible and also the apocrypha

  • @mohdshahwaizkhan290
    @mohdshahwaizkhan290 2 года назад +5

    Please make video(s) on "Who wrote the Indian scriptures"

  • @marcusneumann
    @marcusneumann 7 месяцев назад +1

    You have been a pivotal part of understanding my faith, I grew up in an evangelical Christian community and nothing made any sense. It is only now that I am evaluating the texts through a critical lens that I am able to weed out the bs. I can't thank you enough for the work you do. God bless ❤🙏

  • @richardfrancis1371
    @richardfrancis1371 2 года назад

    These videos are priceless.

  • @darksideatheist6299
    @darksideatheist6299 2 года назад +6

    I recently discovered your content and find it quite informative and enjoyable - keep up the amazing work!

  • @6zeekoe9
    @6zeekoe9 2 года назад +15

    Is this series going to be a book? Including references etc. I would really want that!

  • @jacquelineandrade3281
    @jacquelineandrade3281 2 года назад +1

    Love this series! so sad it's almost done!

  • @HeavyD6600
    @HeavyD6600 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks!🖖

  • @cormacks7036
    @cormacks7036 2 года назад +7

    As a Roman Catholic, I really appreciate these videos, just absolutely beautifully put together!

    • @CPATuttle
      @CPATuttle 2 года назад

      Have you checked out Brant Pitre on Catholic Productions channel? He’s my favorite teacher.

    • @australopithecusafarensis5386
      @australopithecusafarensis5386 Год назад

      As a Catholic, I do too

  • @lp-xl9ld
    @lp-xl9ld 2 года назад +19

    "I've been in church school...we're discussing the letters of Paul...but I feel like I'm reading someone else's mail!" --PEANUTS

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад +3

      When your uncle asked you to fill in for your dad, and still ended up needing you full time at his shop also, anyway🤓

  • @brunocoliveira89
    @brunocoliveira89 2 года назад +1

    The best series of youtube

  • @wilkiebunkers1352
    @wilkiebunkers1352 Год назад

    Hey, really really well done. Very helpful even if you're already somewhat familiar with this whole discussion. Thank you!

  • @Alberto2
    @Alberto2 2 года назад +36

    If Paul started listing facts about Jesus in his letters, it would be like messaging somebody and talking about their country, then sending them the wiki page about it.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 2 года назад

      *Looks at all the debates with Americans about their Country*

    • @nathandlogosmusic1106
      @nathandlogosmusic1106 2 года назад +9

      Not necessarily so. If Paul is trying to convince members of a given church to do, not do, or believe Thing X, then it would have been rhetorically expected for him to mention any applicable teaching or action of Jesus, if he was aware of one.

    • @sentientflower7891
      @sentientflower7891 2 года назад +3

      What is known is that Paul didn't write about any of those things and that that gospels display an evolutionary development of ideas which most modern Christians have never thought about and have no desire to learn.

    • @ronakbhadra6400
      @ronakbhadra6400 2 года назад +6

      @@nathandlogosmusic1106 Paul didn't have much interest in teachings of Jesus...he was not a follower of Jesus in his lifetime, so he couldn't have a first hand knowledge about Jesus's teachings...Paul was more interested in the theology of crucifixion, resurrection and apocalypse...But there may have been other Christians who were interested in Jesus's teachings and may have preserved at least some of it via oral traditions...

    • @balancematters2776
      @balancematters2776 2 года назад +1

      @@ronakbhadra6400 I am not challenging you, but earnestly trying to learn. What is your basis to state that Paul was not a follower of Jesus? I guess I’m trying to understand why Paul would expend so much effort writing letters to others and mentioning Jesus, if he really wasn’t a follower. Thanks for any insight.

  • @gentlerat
    @gentlerat 2 года назад +4

    He mentions James, “the brother of the Lord.” That’s usually considered a family member of some sort.

    • @smpark12
      @smpark12 2 года назад

      I should add that the words for “brother” and “cousin” were the same in the language it was translated from (according to one of his other videos)

    • @BiglerSakura
      @BiglerSakura 2 года назад

      A cousin. In some languages this relationship is described something like "brother once removed" or maybe more correctly "second brother".

  • @BurnBird1
    @BurnBird1 2 года назад +1

    Love it!

  • @TheT-h-inker-er.
    @TheT-h-inker-er. Год назад

    I would love to see you do a series on the Mishna and Talmud as well as later writings. That would be awesome, as I am having a hard time envisioning that period in relation to the earlier videos you made. Thanks Matt!!

  • @mitchellblake1475
    @mitchellblake1475 2 года назад +12

    I love the idea of Priscilla writing Hebrews, especially pairing with the possible later writing of Ephesians.
    The tail end of Ephesians 5 is probably responsible for a lot of the patriarchal traditions in Christianity, and the thought of having Priscilla write one of the books before Ephesians was written/compiled/whatever is an amazing thing to consider

    • @Dan_Capone
      @Dan_Capone 2 года назад +4

      Sadly there isn't a single shred of evidence to support that theory. It's a nice thought experiment but not much more.

  • @adamblaylockmtg
    @adamblaylockmtg 2 года назад +16

    I am definitely looking forward to Nov 12 now. This series has been very well done. When you finish it, can we get a complete bibliography? I know several of the videos have them, but it would be super helpful if they were combined in one place. I might want to do a lit review on them later.

    • @missdeejay
      @missdeejay 2 года назад

      Is Nov 12 the date in which episode 7 is gonna come up??

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 2 года назад

    very interesting stuff

  • @Outrjs
    @Outrjs Год назад

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

  • @bentoth9555
    @bentoth9555 2 года назад +4

    "by a woman named Priscilla." I think I've heard of her, she was queen of the desert.

    • @kamion53
      @kamion53 2 года назад +1

      that would make it the first book ever written by a bus.
      and I always thought busses had enough trouble to read their own numberplates.

  • @SiqueScarface
    @SiqueScarface 2 года назад +5

    I always assumed that Galatians were the people living in Galata, the town across the Bosporus from Byzantium, today's Istanbul and former Constantinople.

    • @thebandit0256
      @thebandit0256 2 года назад

      Today Istanbul it hasn't been called Constantinople since 1930 its just Istanbul

    • @SiqueScarface
      @SiqueScarface 2 года назад +5

      @@thebandit0256 As I wrote: "former Constantinople".

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 2 года назад

      Galatia was an area in Anatolia that apparently spoke a Celtic language or one of its descendants.

    • @SiqueScarface
      @SiqueScarface 2 года назад

      @@thhseeking Not only apparently. Galatai is the Greek word for the Celts. In the year 279 BC, three tribes of Celts, the Tolistobogii, the Tectosages and the Trocmi, advanced into Greek territory and plundered Delphi. The king of Bithynia, Nicomedes I., hired them as soldiers to fight against his Zipoetes II., leader of an uprising against his reign. After the battles, they started plundering Anatolia, until they were beaten somewhen around 268 BC in the Battle of the Elephants by Antiochios I. of the Seleukid Empire. Finally, they settled around the antique Ankyra, today's Ankara.

  • @danielovercash1093
    @danielovercash1093 2 года назад +1

    I am so excited for the next episode supposedly it's my namesake

  • @kumarg3598
    @kumarg3598 2 года назад

    Hey bro, I think you did a great job.

  • @oldseer7610
    @oldseer7610 2 года назад +4

    It's not important who wrote the book. What's important is what's written in it.

  • @RikoJAmado
    @RikoJAmado 2 года назад +3

    “ Two Corinthians. I love Two Corinthians. It’s my favorite book in the Bible.” - some shmuck, probably

  • @QUIRK1019
    @QUIRK1019 2 года назад +2

    Can't wait to find out how this book ends!

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      God: Hi, is this Paul? How’d you like to come work for me?
      Paul: How soon can I start? I just crushed my mustang with some bodies in the trunk😅

  • @aliuyar8537
    @aliuyar8537 2 года назад

    It is a great video

  • @ObligatoryReference
    @ObligatoryReference 2 года назад +6

    Heads-up in case others haven't pointed out -> at 0:56 "1 John" is repeated 3 times (instead of 1, 2, 3 John, I assume)

  • @hristovalchev3689
    @hristovalchev3689 2 года назад +21

    Since you refer to "scholars", it would be nice to include exact references to academic literature in the description.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад +2

      Its generally taken to be christian monks (for better phrasing) from about 400 to 800 AD, with a fair amount of a mix of ( mostly British Educated!) C19th studiers of Greek and Latin contexts and documents. we have of course found (and lost) a number of additional documents from the days of the bible 400BC to 220AD approx , particulary the dead sea scrolls and the septuagint and other translations from Hebrew and so on exist (see other useful charts ). A lot of what was written in late victorian / edwardian england in terms of studies of the Bible and its messages we would probably dismiss now - possibly even some of the 1950s study guides. I would probably get a decent set of IVP (Inter Varsity Press) guides to each of the bible books (which give a volume of writings greater than the bible !) for a decent summary of academic thinking, plus add a few left of field different interpretors of the wording and events (say for taking a form of allegory in the building of the first temple as pointing to jesus in terms of sacrifice acceptable to god). It is also worth looking at some of the slighly later christian writings just after paul's letters, up to the time of Clement, ( early christian writings published by pelican books ) as they give a context of the suffering and oppression of christians under the ceasars of rome which it would be difficult to understand them staying to their faith if they did not have an assurity to the underlying truth of it.

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      Nobody:
      America: Yeah, we gonna get that Muhammad in Black bro😃

    • @adamwarsaw4511
      @adamwarsaw4511 Год назад +1

      @@the2ndcoming135 mentions of Josephus flavius mentions Paul in antiquity of the Jews

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 Год назад

      @@adamwarsaw4511 yeah, well I’m not related to that guy tho😁

    • @adamwarsaw4511
      @adamwarsaw4511 Год назад +1

      @@the2ndcoming135 never said you did

  • @Billy_Almighty
    @Billy_Almighty 2 года назад

    Very informative👏👏👏🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

  • @Ironsix6six
    @Ironsix6six 2 года назад

    Man there is so much history behind all of these works

    • @dstarkspp
      @dstarkspp 2 года назад

      You can say that however is it true!

  • @evelyn5891
    @evelyn5891 2 года назад +4

    Did anybody else notice at 1:10 that the books of Timothy(s) and John(s) are all 1s rather than 1, 2, 3

  • @Singularidade
    @Singularidade 2 года назад +13

    I'm a simple man... If i see ''Who wrote the bible'' i'll just click it

  • @BryceWalker30
    @BryceWalker30 2 года назад

    new episodes of this give me as much seratonin as new episodes of rpdr

  • @jjp1220
    @jjp1220 2 года назад +1

    Can’t wait for the last video on Daniel and Revelation. But I was wondering if you will also include others apocalyptic literature?

  • @albertconstantine5432
    @albertconstantine5432 2 года назад +3

    Superb job, except for the lack of commentary on internal discontinuities among the "epistles," including the well-established high probability that numerous "Pauline" epistles actually are stitched-together documents from multiple sources.

  • @matte2160
    @matte2160 2 года назад +8

    Catholic would more closely mean “universal” I thought…

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      Already know🙂

    • @ProximaCentauri88
      @ProximaCentauri88 2 года назад +1

      It was St. Ignatius of Antioch, an apostle of the apostles of Jesus, who first used the term Catholic to refer to the Church which by that time already had spread across the Mediterranean from Jerusalem, Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch whose Christian communities would soon develop similar but distinct liturgies (Melkite/ Syriac Orthodox-Catholic, Latin/Roman Catholic, Coptic, Syriac Orthodox-Catholic/ Maronite/ Chaldean/ Syro-Malabar/ Syro-Malankar, Byzantine, etc.).

  • @fritz7361
    @fritz7361 2 года назад +1

    The Epistle to the Galatians is the first New Testament writing ever written. That is what makes it so special.

  • @royrohit84
    @royrohit84 2 года назад +1

    I know you look at history and religion but would you ever consider doing a chart on the Tolkein legendarium and the history of Middle Earth? A video of that in your style/format would be fantastic!

  • @thhseeking
    @thhseeking 2 года назад +4

    I've never heard Thessaloniki pronounced "Thessalon-eye-ki" before. Only with all the "i"s short.

    • @sofiekaterina
      @sofiekaterina 2 года назад +5

      That’s because they’re supposed to be pronounced short. This pronunciation was incorrect.

    • @sofiekaterina
      @sofiekaterina 2 года назад

      @@jeremias-serus my family literally comes from Thessaloniki, I think I know how it’s pronounced, thanks. As do the millions of native Greek speakers in the world. While the Ancient Greek pronunciation might have changed, you can definitely use the modern pronunciation since it’s still an inhabited and large city.
      And my comment isn’t a criticism of how it’s pronounced by international speakers, I’m confirming the OPs comment that in the native Greek language it uses short “I”s. And by using a longer “I” sound, it is in fact incorrect for the modern Greek language.

    • @sofiekaterina
      @sofiekaterina 2 года назад

      @@jeremias-serus 🙄 please continue to make assumptions about me, a stranger on the internet. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news (well, not really) but you’re wrong btw.
      And honestly mate, give it a rest. You sound like you’re trying to find something to argue where there’s nothing to argue over.

  • @joshuabjohnson88
    @joshuabjohnson88 2 года назад +7

    8:16 "virtually no Biblical scholars attribute this book to Paul, even in the most conservative circles"
    This is inccurate. Of the faculty at Bob Jones University, a conservative Christian university where nearly the entire seminary staff has doctorates in bible, theology, or textual criticism, over half claim they believe Paul wrote Hebrews. The same can be said for other conservative schools like Pensacola Christian College, and Masters Seminary. Not arguing whether they're correct, just pointing out that there are still A LOT of conservative scholars who believe Paul wrote Hebrews.

    • @XMeK
      @XMeK 2 года назад

      " A LOT of conservative scholars" - And ZERO Objective scholars. Next...?

    • @kekkek2852
      @kekkek2852 2 года назад +1

      @@XMeK Sorry, you don’t get to deny scholarship based on your own opinion.

    • @XMeK
      @XMeK 2 года назад

      @@kekkek2852 Proclaiming A Priori opinions is "scholarship" only in your benighted world.

    • @kekkek2852
      @kekkek2852 2 года назад

      @@XMeK By that opinion most ideas within that field is ‘benighted.’

    • @XMeK
      @XMeK 2 года назад

      @@kekkek2852 And that, unsurprisingly, is filled with fail.

  • @DutchJoan
    @DutchJoan 2 года назад

    I am very interested in certain charts. But I hope (!!) you will make one or more of this series as well and I can buy them together, thus limiting shipment cost.

  • @fawziekefli2273
    @fawziekefli2273 2 года назад

    Wow, I was wondering how I missed this video. Then I realised it only came out a couple of hours ago. 😅

  • @darreljones8645
    @darreljones8645 2 года назад +4

    While the order of Old Testament books can vary considerably in Bibles translated into different languages, the New Testament books almost always come in the same order. The one exception I know of is Bibles for German-speaking Protestants, where Martin Luther proposed doing away with four books whose authenticity and teachings he found suspect. They are placed at the end of them, as a sort of Christian Apocrypha.
    These four books, and the reasons I think Luther disliked them, are:
    1.) Hebrews - because he doubted the centuries-old claim (and official Catholic teaching of the time) that it was written by Paul.
    2.) James - because its famous teaching that "faith, if it has no works, is dead", seemed to poke Luther's own belief in "salvation by faith alone" in the eye.
    3.) Jude - because it quotes from two non-scriptural sources, the Book of Enoch and the Assumption of Moses.
    4.) Revelation - because Luther didn't want people obsessively "cracking the code" to find out how the world will end, an issue that persists in Christianity to the present day.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад

      To me , there is a part of the Old Testament ( Psalms I think) 'Serve The Lord With Gladness' where the word Serve can be equally translated as Worship. Effectively Faith, And Works, are the same thing. Jesus is our salvation by faith for the sins we have of failing to carry out the good works to humanity. (the sin offering in the old testament)..

    • @firstcenturychristianity6864
      @firstcenturychristianity6864 2 года назад +1

      I’d agree with most of your assessment. I’d point out that it would be more accurate to say in 3.) Jude- because it quotes from two non Canonical sources, the Book of Enoch and the Assumption of Moses. In Judes day, there was quite a bit of material considered scripture that didnt make the Masoretic OT Canon. For various reasons, most of it bogus. It was very enlightening to realize that the Essenes included several books in their “canon” that the Masoretics expunged from the OT “canon” that we are familiar with today.

  • @Yitzhak480
    @Yitzhak480 2 года назад +4

    maybe talk in the next episode briefly about the Mishna and the Talmud? after all Jews do call them the Non-written Torah.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +5

      I'm considering it.

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 2 года назад +1

      @@UsefulCharts oh, good to know... i pretty sure that the tradition that Rabbi Yehuda Hanasi compiled the Mishna and Rav Ashi compiled the Talmud (Babylonian, the Jerusalemite Talmud was compiled by Rabbi Yochanan) are history accurate

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 года назад

      @@Yitzhak480 Ok. The ideea was to deal with the New Testament. Mishna will be the next topic. Step by step.

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 2 года назад

      @@VSP4591 i said it because it's gonna be the last episaode of the series and Daniel is not from the new testement so i was suggesting that
      and as you can see he said he was considering it so he liked the idea

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 года назад

      @@Yitzhak480 Ok

  • @3ggshe11s
    @3ggshe11s Год назад +1

    1 Clement was another epistle that may have been included in some early New Testament canons but was left out when the canon was standardized.

  • @generalkenobi5533
    @generalkenobi5533 2 года назад +2

    Again, this is such interesting and well-made content. I find it really interesting that so many of the Pauline Epistles are so confidently attributed to Paul; it makes me wonder how those made it through history while most contemporary Christian documents didn't.

    • @sentientflower7891
      @sentientflower7891 2 года назад +1

      There weren't any contemporary documents when Paul was writing as the church at that time was certain that Jesus could return any day, as Paul himself believed. Paul's letters weren't written for inclusion in the Bible as they leave out nearly all the context of subject matter and therefore indicate that Paul was communicating exclusively with people who already knew what he believed.

    • @generalkenobi5533
      @generalkenobi5533 2 года назад +2

      @@sentientflower7891 I get the part about Paul's writings being written in the context of what their recipients already knew about Jesus, but that's just it--how in the heck would people in Rome, Ephesus, Corinth, etc. be able to maintain any kind of organized religious practice without written records of some kind? I guarantee that there were at least some Christian documents in existence at the same time as Paul's writings, records of Jesus' teachings and acts or messages from early church leaders. I just wonder why more of them weren't preserved.

    • @sentientflower7891
      @sentientflower7891 2 года назад +2

      @@generalkenobi5533 well, taken at face value Paul's letters indicate that there was no such thing as "organized religious practices" in existence at that time and that Paul's letters were an attempt to solve the most egregious violations of Paul's values among his followers.
      Paul's letters also indicate that his own particular form of Christianity wasn't the only form of Christianity in existence at that time, and that these various factions were competing with each other and sometimes at war with each other.
      The New Testament as a unified document was written to gloss over these major differences as they sought to unify Paul's Christianity with Peter & James' Christianity, and link it with Old Testament as a means of rendering a new religion into an ancient religion.

    • @sentientflower7891
      @sentientflower7891 2 года назад

      @@generalkenobi5533 There wasn't a unified religion in Paul's time. That came much later.

    • @Dan_Capone
      @Dan_Capone 2 года назад

      @@generalkenobi5533 That's the point of the Pauline Epistles, to establish a foundation of practices and beliefs for all Christians. We know he was considered like an authoritative figure, so it makes sense that the different communities would preserve his letters, but apart from that it seems that they didn't have much communication between each other and writing things on paper was an expensive endeavor so it's not something that everyone did just to record unimportant everyday things.

  • @bernard1313
    @bernard1313 2 года назад +3

    Q: Who wrote the bible?
    A: People

    • @dstarkspp
      @dstarkspp 2 года назад

      True that…

    • @smpark12
      @smpark12 2 года назад

      Yeah but which people

  • @juliorivera870
    @juliorivera870 2 года назад +3

    My favorite book is the book of revelation, I believe John the disciple wrote it, but it doesn't matter to me if it was another John, what matters is that this prophecy is coming to pass

  • @missdeejay
    @missdeejay 2 года назад

    Excellent videos! When are we having chapter 7 (The Apocalypse and the Book of Daniel)???

  • @irishdogclock
    @irishdogclock 2 года назад

    Be eternally grateful God thought of you.

  • @Sgman1991
    @Sgman1991 2 года назад +7

    It really seems like you take the view of the more critical secular scholars, but present it as "standard," "majority opinion," or "generally accepted." For example:
    - You state that there's disagreement on the authorship of those three letters, but you assign them the later date anyway.
    - You spend a good amount of time talking about Priscilla as a possible author of Hebrews, even though literally zero evidence exists for that idea. Seemingly to make a point about female leadership in the church without actually presenting any evidence for that argument?
    - You say Hebrews' "Standard" dating is 70 - 100, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It's the view of a couple scholars, as far as I can tell. It is, at most, the standard view among the more critical scholars. The more standard dating is somewhere in the 60s.
    - You expound on the critical scholars who doubt the existence of a historical Jesus based on the contents of Paul's letters, but fail to mention that the majority of scholars don't make that argument.
    - The Epistle of Barnabas was also very regularly considered a "disputed" book in the early church (Eusebius, Codex Claromontanus, etc.). It was not just passed around as scripture generally as you seem to suggest.
    You don't cite your sources on what's "standard" or "generally accepted." So I can't really verify your claims.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +4

      Yes. I am definitely biased towards the consensus of critical scholarship. I tried to make that clear from the beginning of the series.

    • @Sgman1991
      @Sgman1991 2 года назад +3

      ​@@UsefulCharts You don't make that clear, at all, though. You often claim that things are "standard" or "the majority of scholars" when what you really mean is "the majority of extremely critical scholars." Those are very different claims.
      To be clear, you seem to be biased towards the most critical scholars, not just "critical scholars."
      For example, there are an incredibly small number of scholars who think the historical person of Jesus didn't exist, yet you brought it up as a totally legitimate possibility that comes directly from the evidence presented. The same goes for the presentation about Priscilla. It's a far out hypothesis with zero evidence, but you spent more time on it than much of the actual scholarship.
      Those are both extreme views in every sense of the word.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +6

      Have you watched my other videos? I've made it clear several times that I believe in a historical Jesus and that the Jesus myth hypothesis is not the mainstream view. I also said in this very video that the Priscilla theory is not the mainstream view.
      So, while I agree with you that I present the critical view, I disagree that I present the MOST critical view.

    • @Sgman1991
      @Sgman1991 2 года назад

      ​@@UsefulCharts The presentation in this video definitely presented the theory of Jesus as a non-historical, or legendary, figure as totally legitimate. What you believe isn't really relevant when you're making an academic video that presents what is claimed as scholarly opinion. Why even include that line unless your bias pushes the Overton Window to include "the most critical" scholars as totally legitimate?
      The Priscilla theory isn't just not mainstream... it's at best fringe, only pushed by people like Ruth Hobbin. Is there any other scholarly work by a living author that makes the claim?
      You seem to automatically dismiss all scholars outside of the critical school, and are very open to even the most critical scholars. You are willing to present the most fringe theories, as long as they fall on the far side of critical theory.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 года назад +6

      Like I said, I made it clear at the beginning of the series that I'd be approaching the topic from a critical view, not a religious one. And that is what I have done.

  • @fwcolb
    @fwcolb 2 года назад +4

    The key fact is that none of the writers of the New Testament ever met Jesus.

    • @yakovmatityahu
      @yakovmatityahu 2 года назад +4

      John did and so did paul.

    • @fwcolb
      @fwcolb 2 года назад

      @@yakovmatityahu Paul? When Jesus appeared to him during one of his epileptic seizures?
      And you think the "John" was the same John who wrote the Gospel of St John and Revelations?

  • @amyhunt4473
    @amyhunt4473 2 года назад +1

    I'd love to see a timeline of the Dead Sea Scrolls (creation, loss, recovery, etc)

  • @pmajudge
    @pmajudge Год назад +1

    EXCELLENT !!! From U.K. (2023).

  • @kamion53
    @kamion53 2 года назад +2

    the Gospels and Acts always were a part of teaching at elementery school and quite understandable, the Epistles part of a boring sermon in church and no idea the man upfront was taking about. it was an ordeal, because when you ate the peppermints you could not put those in the collection box and keep the quarters you got for that purpose. And you needed the peppermints to prevent jawning too loud.
    I think boredom played a very big role in becoming an atheist.
    Nevertheless it is very good to see the NT books put in their historical context. It is actually by these video's I realised the Gospels came later the Paul's writings and not before as I was told.
    Keep on with this.

  • @resned5340
    @resned5340 2 года назад

    I'd just like to say I thought of the thumbnail map inverted at first, I realised when I saw lake Sardinia

  • @ORenyRen
    @ORenyRen 2 года назад

    Sad to hear only one episode left. I was hoping you'd also do Quaran and Mormon books.
    Read through comments and am excited to hear that you're considering Oral Torah episode(s)!

    • @Ellyerre
      @Ellyerre 2 года назад +4

      In the description, it says he's doing an bonus episode on the Quran after the final episode.

    • @ORenyRen
      @ORenyRen 2 года назад +1

      @@Ellyerre thank you! I missed that.

  • @PR-fk5yb
    @PR-fk5yb 2 года назад

    Thank you for this interesting and intelligent material.👏

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      Psycho girlfriends reflect everyday bro👏🏽

  • @theCarbonFreeze
    @theCarbonFreeze 2 года назад +2

    Now do one for Gnostic apocrypha

  • @pearlofthedarkage
    @pearlofthedarkage 2 года назад +2

    That did not feel like 16 minutes. I was surprised when it was over already.

  • @user-hh2is9kg9j
    @user-hh2is9kg9j 2 года назад

    I have a suggestion for a new useful chart tree. The dates of different early Islamic sources/books (ibn ishaq, ibn hisham ..etc )are always in the debate when it comes to the History and historicity of Islam. I think it would be a very needed project to categorize early Muslim sources starting from the earliest sources showing what survive to the modern times of that books either in full or as quoted in other subsequent works. a chart like this would put a more accurate perspective of different Muslim works and how close they were to the events they describe. also, it would be a very handy tool for researchers of early Islamic history and medieval history in general.

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 2 года назад

    2:03 if you include the envelope, we still compose letters in: Sender > Recipient > Greeting format ... The return address on the outside, then "Dear John Doe," then perhaps "I hope you are well" ... Email is the same way. You see an email and who it is from first, then you open it.