I'm seeing a lot of people saying I missed K'kruhk. I very well may have, but I can't seem to find confirmation. I would certainly agree that he was the oldest and wisest Jedi Master of the Legacy era, so it makes sense that he would have the title, I just can't see any confirmation that he officially held it. If anyone can point me to a good source, I would really appreciate it!
Tyler Dunn if Star Wars Explained was everything you just said why would he even bother making this list in the first place when over half of it isn't even canon anymore.
It sucks that Disney canon only people will never know the greatness of stuff like Luke slowly rebuilding the Jedi Order, learning from the mistakes of the old Jedi and making it better.
Maybe, but discovering what's good in the new canon rather than non-stop complaining is also good. I'm not saying that's what you do, I'm just pointing out there are two sides to this idea. Don't miss out on Legends, but don't write off canon as bad either.
@@ginge641 Did...you just admit to writing the new canon off, which is exactly what my comment warned against? Well, you're loss. Have fun hating Star Wars because that's the new hotness and people...want to, for some reason.
@@wolfgod6443 No, it's because the new canon, ie, episode seven and eight, is objectively terrible. I refuse to reward these filmmakers for their half arsed productions.
It was sad to see Legends being discontinued after the new canon was announced as there is still a lot of unanswered questions, like when did Luke die and what happened after the Galactic Triumvirate was formed
Andre 2.0 You remember what canon fanboys said in 2015? "Give it three years, that will be enough to bring back good Legends stuff and make good new things" If so, then next 6 months will bring us some serious de-canonisations and re-canonisations. Unlikely
That "3 year span" pales in comparison to the 8 years between RotJ and Heir to the Empire (the book that practically kickstarted Legends). So how about this, once Episode 9 comes out, wait 8 more years, then tell us how much Star Wars content has been made. Canon is already on a role with the sequel to their new Thrawn series already being written (by the same author no less). Combine the books with all the comics, games, tv shows, and other movies being made, and I think it's a safe bet that canon will have more content in that 8 year span than Legends ever did starting off. I would include more here, but lets please try to keeps things civil. Things have gotten so bad in the SW fandom, I'm legitimately worried it's going to split apart and die.
I am running a Star Wars 5th Edition game with some friends based around the time after the Ruusan Reformation, and knowing who was the Jedi grandmaster really helps flesh out the world and allows me to work within established lore.
In Episode VIII: The Last Jedi, we learn that Luke Skywalker was the last Jedi Grand Master, and that Rey became the last Jedi. We have to wait for Episode IX to see if Rey becomes a Jedi Grandmaster or just restarts the Order from scratch.
What about Odan-Urr, he wasn't grandmaster in title but practically was being the yoda figure of the "Tales of the Jedi" storyline. Also probably the most awesome old man due to him studying a sith holocron for a thousand years without being tempted by the dark side. Just think about the number of people who have come in contact with a sith holocron, have fallen to the dark side because of it and how it took. Odan-Urr did this for a thousand years and never faltered. Also Exar Kun, the Dark Lord of Sith at the time was scared of him he used a instant kill sith ritual on him because he didn't want to fight him. Like Odan -Urr deserves that grandmaster title like no else. Just my opinion.
Hi, Star Wars Explained, how are you doing ? I am new to the channel and I have seen that if somenone puts questions in the comments about a subject in SW you either make a video for it or explain it in the comments section . So lets get to the point - I have question and I will be very glad if you could answer it the way you want : Why SW characters don't use their technical advanced ships with lightspeed to exit their known galaxy in search for new ones ? - for example the Millenium falcon could pass the Kessel Run for 12 parsecs, which ultimately fast even for the SW universe ! Let me know if you will tell me in the comments section or maybe in a separate video !
Man, they were so many Grand Masters in Legends and serving Luke's new Jedi Order, so much rich lore. What a shame Disney won't be including these Grand Masters or new ones of different species within the new Canon or The Last Jedi; Luke is practically ending it. I like the new Canon, but Legends is my resource for deeper and intriguing Star Wars lore. Yet, I own some copies being the Jedi Path and Book of the Sith, which are well-written books offering compelling insight into the Jedi and Sith and nothing to cause direct damage to the overall continuity. A minor issue being the achievement of synthetic red crystals vs. "bleeding" red crystals. What a waste of great mythos! 💎📚💔 I'm perfectly aware of the apathy and hatred surrounding the EU/Legends, but very bloated in my opinion. Sure, Disney/Lucasfilm want a CLEAN slate, yet with decent decisions comes great responsibility and heavy prices. I'll still read the new Canon, but collect more Legends on account of my passion for writing and creative ideas. Originality is an essential ingredient of good and quality storytelling and absolute dryness is a BIG no-no embedded in my books. I simply WON'T tolerate it. 😡😒👎 On the OTHER hand, nothing WILL enter my own "canon" of Star Wars unless it serves a form of adequacy, decency, logic, and relevance. Nothing. #LEGENDSNeverDie #NewCANONStillQuestionable #ReadersAreLeaders📚📖👑🌠
You and I seem to be a lot alike in our beliefs regarding Star Wars, especially in the idea that we create our own "canon" of the Star Wars timelines. So which Grandmasters are your favorites? Mine are Nomi Sunrider and Luke Skywalker.
While I don't agree with you, thank you so much for stating a good opinion. I think having a "personal" canon isn't the best way (as in, you may as well make your own stories and universe at that point), but I am all for personal interpretations of something. Like what true balance to the force is, is the Rule of Two a mystical law or a simple philosophy, or are lightsabers more of a science or magic, etc. (I prefer the bleeding red crystals and the "magic" of it all btw). I would like to point out that Star Wars is entirely based on taking ideas from past stories. Most of it isn't original at all. It takes from western & eastern movies, sci-fi, fantasy, romance, adventure, action , and more. The reason Star Wars is so popular and important, I think, is because it represents all media. It is every story combined and put into a different galaxy, with its own rules. The possibilities are endless, but Star Wars is rooted in representing everything that has already been done. George Lucas himself said that even future Star Wars movies need to take from past Star Wars movies ("like a poem", he said, or something around those words at least). Although Lucas has clearly shown that he doesn't always have the best ideas, I think it's good that they are sticking to this theme of inspired stories, mixed with a small bit of originality, of course.
Can someone explain to my why there were gaps of thousands of years between some of the grand masters? What would happen to the title between a grandmasters death and the appointment of a new one?
I know the following were might not have actually held the exact title of grand master but weren’t sure Odan Urr, Kol Skywalker, and K’kruhk basically grandmasters.
You missed K`Kruhk who was Grandmaster during the Legacy Era, and I am not sure but I think there`s lore on who was Grandmaster during Revan`s time, I`ll need to read up on that.
With the High Republic Era, there are now five Grand Masters in Canon: Lahru (c.250-232 BBY) Pra-Te-Ver (232-230 BBY) Yoda (230 BBY-4 ABY) Luke Skywalker (16-34 ABY) Rey Skywalker (35 ABY-?)
Hmmm... Very interesting, but I wanted to know on what date Yoda became a grandmaster and when he wasn't anymore may anyone answer this question, please?
excuse my limited knowledge but wasn't there this red lobster like alien who was grand master? I might be wrong but I think he was grand master before yoda? Am I confused with someone else?
I really don't understand why Disney couldn't use legends as a timeline and go with it. Why did they have to make there own. If something is already made for you why would you not want to use it
No, during the events of Legacy (around 130 after the Battle of Yavin), he was part of the jedi council - which at the time consisted of only 3 members. He later became the jedi representant in the joined government between the Empire, Alliance and Jedi. As far as I know, there was no official jedi grand master at that time.
Hmmmm let's see if it fits... Legends: The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, turned to the dark side after being a Jedi and being seduced by the dark side by someone who was around during the Empire. Luke is blamed and he goes into exile. Jedi try to get him back into the Jedi order and fail. Canon: The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, turned to the dark side after being a Jedi and being seduced by the dark side by someone who was around during the Empire. Luke is blamed and he goes into exile. Jedi try to get him back into the Jedi order and fail. I may have oversimplified things but maybe Disney is on to something here....
I'm pretty sure Luke could be considered grand master after Jason's fall given his leadership in the war against abaloth (I'm sure I spelled that wrong but I cba to check) I know it's not offical but it seems like he should have been and that's coming from someone who really doesn't like the character.
honestly luke isnt really a grandmaster because its a completely different jedi order, we technically dont even know if there was a grandmaster title in his order
Emperor Palpatine we all know what happened to him, can you just go 5 minutes without saying the story of Darth Plagu... **Gets force choked, falls on the floor, gets elecrecuted**
Why Train Rey if he is going to end the end the Order doesnt make sense oh well Im just excited Luke Skywalker again my favorite Star Wars Character of all time
LOL WE REALY NEED A TUSKAN RAIDER GRAND JEDI MASTER AND JEDI (BTW THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TUSKAN JEDI BUT THERE HAS BEEN A JEDI THAT WAS DRESSED LIKE A TUSKAN BUT HE DOES NOT COUNT HE IS A HUMAN)
![How Luke's Jedi Order Differed from the Old Jedi Order [Legends] - Star Wars Explained](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ij5LecFWgAo/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm seeing a lot of people saying I missed K'kruhk. I very well may have, but I can't seem to find confirmation. I would certainly agree that he was the oldest and wisest Jedi Master of the Legacy era, so it makes sense that he would have the title, I just can't see any confirmation that he officially held it. If anyone can point me to a good source, I would really appreciate it!
Tyler Dunn wow chill you are like a habenaro pepper being barbecued so I will say it again chill!
Orangeapplekiwi Games... Disney is trying to control what is cannon and what isnt... why do they get to dictate what is and what isnt...
Star Wars Explained do you know how luke skywalker dies in legends?
Tyler Dunn if Star Wars Explained was everything you just said why would he even bother making this list in the first place when over half of it isn't even canon anymore.
simple... star wars is owned by Disney they can decide whatever they want!!!
It sucks that Disney canon only people will never know the greatness of stuff like Luke slowly rebuilding the Jedi Order, learning from the mistakes of the old Jedi and making it better.
Maybe, but discovering what's good in the new canon rather than non-stop complaining is also good. I'm not saying that's what you do, I'm just pointing out there are two sides to this idea. Don't miss out on Legends, but don't write off canon as bad either.
King Superman Disney is trash.
@@wolfgod6443
"what's good in the new canon"
Nice joke.
@@ginge641 Did...you just admit to writing the new canon off, which is exactly what my comment warned against?
Well, you're loss. Have fun hating Star Wars because that's the new hotness and people...want to, for some reason.
@@wolfgod6443 No, it's because the new canon, ie, episode seven and eight, is objectively terrible. I refuse to reward these filmmakers for their half arsed productions.
Fans: Use All of this amazing lore that follows Return of the Jedi!
Disney: Rey
2:27: "Remember Master Fae, I do, from when I was a mere youngling. Good it is to hear her voice again through these words." -Yoda.
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That was an interesting video. I didn't know legends had so many millenia worth of content.
it goes way far back. even before the jedi.
It was sad to see Legends being discontinued after the new canon was announced as there is still a lot of unanswered questions, like when did Luke die and what happened after the Galactic Triumvirate was formed
Omicron942 You have no idea.
Yaaay, people still remember Nomi Sunrider.
I had no idea the Grand Master title already existed by the time of the first schism.
Luke's academy is canon so he is a grandmaster in canon.
Connor Westhoven Good point.
Connor Westhoven its canon but not as rich with lore like the legends version
Khalduras Fair enough
Not really. It's canon that he had an academy but he may not have declared himself grandmaster
The Bacons someone had to be grandmaster
Wasn't Kol Skywalker a Grand Master in the Legacy comics?
Yup
He was.
Yeah
Definitely.
This is just further proof that legends in the expanded universe are above and beyond what Disney Canon continues to be
Andre 2.0 and it has very little to show for it.
Andre 2.0
You remember what canon fanboys said in 2015?
"Give it three years, that will be enough to bring back good Legends stuff and make good new things"
If so, then next 6 months will bring us some serious de-canonisations and re-canonisations.
Unlikely
That "3 year span" pales in comparison to the 8 years between RotJ and Heir to the Empire (the book that practically kickstarted Legends). So how about this, once Episode 9 comes out, wait 8 more years, then tell us how much Star Wars content has been made.
Canon is already on a role with the sequel to their new Thrawn series already being written (by the same author no less). Combine the books with all the comics, games, tv shows, and other movies being made, and I think it's a safe bet that canon will have more content in that 8 year span than Legends ever did starting off.
I would include more here, but lets please try to keeps things civil. Things have gotten so bad in the SW fandom, I'm legitimately worried it's going to split apart and die.
@@wolfgod6443 canon has a lot of stories, most of which are ok. But the sequel trilogy is extremely bad
I prefer the new cannon
They're all so cool. My favorites are 1. Luke; 2. Satele; and 3. Yoda.
I am running a Star Wars 5th Edition game with some friends based around the time after the Ruusan Reformation, and knowing who was the Jedi grandmaster really helps flesh out the world and allows me to work within established lore.
I want my Grand Master Skywalker back for the NEU
You will get your justice
Star Wars Explained Can you do a video specific about the Chiss and the Ruling Families?
I can't stop watching his videos all night
Would you ever consider doing a video on all the supreme chancellors of the republic? Could be interesting :D
Yes finaly, I was waiting for this, thank you
Love all of your videos
Can’t Kol Skywalker just be considered a grandmaster despite never being referred to as one. I mean he was said to be the leader of the Jedi council.
love your videos
where is grandmaster k'kruhk??
he was grandmaster
every rebel high command member?
history lessons always nice!
In Episode VIII: The Last Jedi, we learn that Luke Skywalker was the last Jedi Grand Master, and that Rey became the last Jedi. We have to wait for Episode IX to see if Rey becomes a Jedi Grandmaster or just restarts the Order from scratch.
Would you say the Jedi should/could/would institute a rule of 2 or similar after the snoke thing of light to meet it speech?
What about Odan-Urr, he wasn't grandmaster in title but practically was being the yoda figure of the "Tales of the Jedi" storyline. Also probably the most awesome old man due to him studying a sith holocron for a thousand years without being tempted by the dark side. Just think about the number of people who have come in contact with a sith holocron, have fallen to the dark side because of it and how it took. Odan-Urr did this for a thousand years and never faltered. Also Exar Kun, the Dark Lord of Sith at the time was scared of him he used a instant kill sith ritual on him because he didn't want to fight him. Like Odan -Urr deserves that grandmaster title like no else. Just my opinion.
I think that even if the jedi order is snuffed from existence, history will still repeat itself as long as force users exist
Literally thousands of years of blank history where there were probably like 100 more Grand Masters.
You forgot that Mace held the title too. He relinquish it back to Yoda when the Clone Wars started.
Hi, Star Wars Explained, how are you doing ? I am new to the channel and I have seen that if somenone puts questions in the comments about a subject in SW you either make a video for it or explain it in the comments section . So lets get to the point - I have question and I will be very glad if you could answer it the way you want : Why SW characters don't use their technical advanced ships with lightspeed to exit their known galaxy in search for new ones ? - for example the Millenium falcon could pass the Kessel Run for 12 parsecs, which ultimately fast even for the SW universe ! Let me know if you will tell me in the comments section or maybe in a separate video !
awesome video Alex
1:30 "Sunrider". Sounds familiar 🤔
*Cough Cough* Sunstrider, Warcraft *Cough Cough*
Nice video!
Man, they were so many Grand Masters in Legends and serving Luke's new Jedi Order, so much rich lore. What a shame Disney won't be including these Grand Masters or new ones of different species within the new Canon or The Last Jedi; Luke is practically ending it. I like the new Canon, but Legends is my resource for deeper and intriguing Star Wars lore. Yet, I own some copies being the Jedi Path and Book of the Sith, which are well-written books offering compelling insight into the Jedi and Sith and nothing to cause direct damage to the overall continuity. A minor issue being the achievement of synthetic red crystals vs. "bleeding" red crystals. What a waste of great mythos! 💎📚💔
I'm perfectly aware of the apathy and hatred surrounding the EU/Legends, but very bloated in my opinion. Sure, Disney/Lucasfilm want a CLEAN slate, yet with decent decisions comes great responsibility and heavy prices. I'll still read the new Canon, but collect more Legends on account of my passion for writing and creative ideas. Originality is an essential ingredient of good and quality storytelling and absolute dryness is a BIG no-no embedded in my books. I simply WON'T tolerate it. 😡😒👎
On the OTHER hand, nothing WILL enter my own "canon" of Star Wars unless it serves a form of adequacy, decency, logic, and relevance. Nothing.
#LEGENDSNeverDie
#NewCANONStillQuestionable
#ReadersAreLeaders📚📖👑🌠
You and I seem to be a lot alike in our beliefs regarding Star Wars, especially in the idea that we create our own "canon" of the Star Wars timelines. So which Grandmasters are your favorites? Mine are Nomi Sunrider and Luke Skywalker.
While I don't agree with you, thank you so much for stating a good opinion. I think having a "personal" canon isn't the best way (as in, you may as well make your own stories and universe at that point), but I am all for personal interpretations of something. Like what true balance to the force is, is the Rule of Two a mystical law or a simple philosophy, or are lightsabers more of a science or magic, etc. (I prefer the bleeding red crystals and the "magic" of it all btw).
I would like to point out that Star Wars is entirely based on taking ideas from past stories. Most of it isn't original at all. It takes from western & eastern movies, sci-fi, fantasy, romance, adventure, action , and more. The reason Star Wars is so popular and important, I think, is because it represents all media. It is every story combined and put into a different galaxy, with its own rules. The possibilities are endless, but Star Wars is rooted in representing everything that has already been done. George Lucas himself said that even future Star Wars movies need to take from past Star Wars movies ("like a poem", he said, or something around those words at least). Although Lucas has clearly shown that he doesn't always have the best ideas, I think it's good that they are sticking to this theme of inspired stories, mixed with a small bit of originality, of course.
you can still partially see Luke rebuilding the order in the jedi knight series of games...
Kol Skywalker was a grand-master during the Sith imperial Civil War and I think then K'Kruhk became grand-master
That picture of Luke after he sets up a new batch of force users looks like Gary Cole haha
Mace Windu, you can learn a thing or two about arresting corrupt Chancellor's from the Jedi Grandmaster BL.
To be fair that guy wasn't one of the most powerful sith lords ever.
Wow so much diversity in Star Wars legends, I thought Disney said there was no diversity , probably because they killed it first.
3:38 waitis that a Bokoblin? And is the other dude the same race as Boosk?
You forgot about Grand Master Flash
Nice vid alex
Mace windu was grandmaster up until the start of the clone wars
The fact that Luke Skywalker was a grand master is canon, as we saw in The Last Jedi.
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Lissette Hanley is now a Grand Master few years after Luke's death.
Luke did not stop being the grandmaster of the Jedi order he kept telling them what do all through those books
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Can someone explain to my why there were gaps of thousands of years between some of the grand masters? What would happen to the title between a grandmasters death and the appointment of a new one?
I know the following were might not have actually held the exact title of grand master but weren’t sure Odan Urr, Kol Skywalker, and K’kruhk basically grandmasters.
What song is this ?
Isn’t Luke still considered a grandmaster of the Jedi order in canon,and now I guess Rey too
rey would maybe turn to the darkside :/
You missed K`Kruhk who was Grandmaster during the Legacy Era, and I am not sure but I think there`s lore on who was Grandmaster during Revan`s time, I`ll need to read up on that.
so when did jedi grandmasters lahru and veter entered the scene??? why they are not mentioned?
Do grand masters sometimes have green blades? Green master?
Every supreme chancellor of the Old republic or the New republic
With the High Republic Era, there are now five Grand Masters in Canon:
Lahru (c.250-232 BBY)
Pra-Te-Ver (232-230 BBY)
Yoda (230 BBY-4 ABY)
Luke Skywalker (16-34 ABY)
Rey Skywalker (35 ABY-?)
Rey is not a Skywalker
Rey palpatine
You forgot K'kruhk
Hmmm... Very interesting, but I wanted to know on what date Yoda became a grandmaster and when he wasn't anymore may anyone answer this question, please?
how have you not covered the han solo set leaks??:(
excuse my limited knowledge but wasn't there this red lobster like alien who was grand master? I might be wrong but I think he was grand master before yoda? Am I confused with someone else?
I really don't understand why Disney couldn't use legends as a timeline and go with it. Why did they have to make there own. If something is already made for you why would you not want to use it
isn't Jedi master K'kruhk the grand master the the Galactic Triumvirate was formed?
Wasn't Corran Horn after Seba Sebatyne Grandmaster ?
No after Seba Luke became grandmaster again and it isn't known who held the title after him.
Wasn't Mace Windu also a grand master alongside Yoda?
NCO Pictures he was "Just" Master of the Order, not Grand master
Wasn’t Odan-Urr the grandmaster of the order before naomi sunrider
Jim Henson had a wait and see attitude and look what happened to him. Now we have wrong sounding Muppets
K'khruk and Odan Urr?
Why is Satele Shan considered legends? Old republic is an ongoing franchise
have you guys seen tk-173?
Nobody?
Which was more powerful sand or the high ground
Wasn't K'Kruhk a grand master?
No, during the events of Legacy (around 130 after the Battle of Yavin), he was part of the jedi council - which at the time consisted of only 3 members. He later became the jedi representant in the joined government between the Empire, Alliance and Jedi.
As far as I know, there was no official jedi grand master at that time.
sertaki
So, he basicly was -Leonardo DiCaprio- Gary Oldman of SW. He did not get an Oscar, despite deserving it the most
wait starwars explains wasn't kuh'kruk grand master during the legacy comics?
What happened to mace windu he was a grand master when Yoda stepped down
Always thought Windu was grandmaster and passed the title to Yoda after the battle of Geonosis
Hmmmm let's see if it fits...
Legends: The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, turned to the dark side after being a Jedi and being seduced by the dark side by someone who was around during the Empire. Luke is blamed and he goes into exile. Jedi try to get him back into the Jedi order and fail.
Canon: The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, turned to the dark side after being a Jedi and being seduced by the dark side by someone who was around during the Empire. Luke is blamed and he goes into exile. Jedi try to get him back into the Jedi order and fail. I may have oversimplified things but maybe Disney is on to something here....
I'm pretty sure Luke could be considered grand master after Jason's fall given his leadership in the war against abaloth (I'm sure I spelled that wrong but I cba to check) I know it's not offical but it seems like he should have been and that's coming from someone who really doesn't like the character.
He didn't hold the title for most of the crisis until his exile was rescinded after the coup against Daala.
honestly luke isnt really a grandmaster because its a completely different jedi order, we technically dont even know if there was a grandmaster title in his order
13,000 years later?
I don’t care what anyone says for me Luke is still the most recent grandmaster of the Jedi order
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Dident Yoda give Mace Windu the rank of grand master for a while but then he returned the rank to Yoda but shouldent he still be included
you forgot ku-kruk!!
Wait, where is Kol Skywalker?
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I may not be a Jedi but I am The Grand Master or Lord of Hunger
I thought zallow was a Grand Master before satele Shan, because he died against Darth malgus while the Sith destroyed The Jedi Temple on coruscant
None of the Grand Masters were wiser than Darth Plageuis the wise
Emperor Palpatine we all know what happened to him, can you just go 5 minutes without saying the story of Darth Plagu...
**Gets force choked, falls on the floor, gets elecrecuted**
wat about vandar
Luke Skywalker is the last grandmaster not yoda because he's the only jedi besides Rey after Kylo Ren killed all of Luke's students.
Why Train Rey if he is going to end the end the Order doesnt make sense oh well Im just excited Luke Skywalker again my favorite Star Wars Character of all time
Where is zallow
The only good thing about canon is that rex is on endor
LOL WE REALY NEED A TUSKAN RAIDER GRAND JEDI MASTER AND JEDI (BTW THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TUSKAN JEDI BUT THERE HAS BEEN A JEDI THAT WAS DRESSED LIKE A TUSKAN BUT HE DOES NOT COUNT HE IS A HUMAN)
Forgot kol Skywalker from star wars legacy
I prefer legends instead of Disney's canon story
not really the oldest ood bnar was older than yoda and the lived at the same time and kyle katarn was oldest than luke skywalker