Tesla Model 3 VS Polestar 2: Shootout | Fifth Gear Recharged
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- The shoot-out formula is very simple. One presenter, two like-minded cars. Which is the quickest around the track? Two four-door four-seaters which offer family practicality combined with supercar levels of performance, all for around £45k. By EV standards Tesla are now old hands in the electric car game. Polestar, on the other hand, are brand new, though the parent company Volvo has been around a while. Can the upstart create a shock? Watch our brand new series, Thursdays at 9pm on Quest or via Discovery+ www.discoveryp...
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I have driven both cars many times, I'd go with the Polestars ride and quality.
I would too. But I also suspect that the battery degradation will hit hard compared to the Model 3.
@@MuitoDaora I am not really worried about the battery as I am only leasing it and I drive less than a 100 miles a day. We have Tesla's here and they break all the time so battery life is of no use.
@@s13dad82 I have a diesel it does 70miles mpg it was cheap to buy and cheap to run and is already 5 years old ! Nah no EV for me.
@@bertiewooster3326 Hi Bertie, diesel is getting expensive these days, I bought the Polestar 2 because of the free charging and no maintenance cost. I gave up my mercedes diesel bluetec years ago because they are expensive to maintain and very problematic.
@@s13dad82 Well your lifestyle is in the slow lane ! I went from Lo don to Bolton to see my aged aunt on Sunday filled tank up drove there and back saw her for 1 hour over 500 mls there and back no need to fill up or hang around waiting for charge still had enough in the tank for a week's commuting EV are not for me they are restrictive and too expensive ,I 'll keep my cheap long range diesel!
Still have the Polestar for everyday driving without a doubt
I'd miss autopilot and the charging network. And Netflix and games and stuff.
and range
I bet 100 bucks the guy didn't even set the Ohlins dampers to the Polestar track settings. He probably did this race in the regular driving setting.
The 'guy' is only an ex F1 driver so yeah he probably didn't realise 🤣
I do get the complaints about this type of review for these types of car, but everyone else has done a practicality comparison. Not every youtube channel has a former F1 pilot and a track to put these around. If you want to see which one has more cupholders, there's about 5 million other reviews to watch.
Polestar with ohlins in track setting plus Performance upgrade to 476hp smokes M3.
Link?
The Volvo had the performance/ brake packs and the M3 *LR* smoked it.
@@rogerstarkey5390 the default pack settings are for comfort. So initially only the brakes are better. Having the pack installed means shit until the dampers are properly tuned for the track.
If you want a Polestar 2 with better performance, don't get the performance pack! ;) The 20" wheels makes it slower. The brakes are better so might gain some there, but if you want performance you can spend the money on the 68hp upgrade instead. Thats about 1000€ and is done via OTA. Of course you can get both the performance pack and the upgrade if you like... :p
Maybe if I was young again I would value speed over anything else. Polestar 2 overall is the superior car to me.
If you're short.
I wouldn't fit
Did you see Polestar 2 just released OTA power upgrade? This video definitely deserves a "part 2" with the power upgraded!
Very cool. How much extra power did it get?
did you see TESLA announced its CARBON CERAMIC Brake kit for $20,000.
@@knight2386 67bhp and 20Nm (you currently have to own the car and pay €1k for it though)
@@kittgs thanks for the reply! If I could get that additional power out of my Tesla for that price, I'd jump right on it
This is a model 3 long range which also has an acceleration boost option adding about 60hp.
Worth mentioning is the power boost available for the polestar bringing it on par with the tesla. Also the brakes and suspension is superior on the polestar. however by the looks of it, the car in the video is not tuned for race track. It seems to be tuned for comfort.
Until you buy the performance boost for the model 3, which again will make it winner.
Or you could buy the performance version of the model 3.
@@larss3903 does the tesla performance boost fix the poor brakes and cheap suspension?
@@yarpen9016
You didn't watch the review?
"Turns in beautifully"
"Super positive in slow speed corners"
"Nice to drive"
Compared to
"In spite of these options (£5k brakes, performance pack😂) it doesn't feel as quick"
"A lot of understeer"
"It may also corner a bit reluctantly"
"Not as nimble, not as agile"
"I want to go there...not there!!"
...
What do you mean "not tuned for the track"? It had the kits fitted!
You seem confused.
@@yarpen9016
It took 5 grand to "fix" that on the Volvo.... Still slow.
@@rogerstarkey5390 having the kit fitted doesn’t mean the dampers were tuned for the track. Default settings are for comfort.
For only half a second, i would take the Polestar 2.
+1
I would buy the Tesla for its vastly superior charging network and how quickly and easily it can be recharged. Ride quality can be upgraded via teslacorsa for a nominal price. Upgrading a charging network or speed of charging on the Volvo is multitudes more expensive.
@@evolv.e Forget Tesla, shitty build quality, hundreds of recalls.
@@stockey lol haters gonna hate
@@evolv.eMostly people fed up of being smoked at traffic lights 😂
There are moments when I simply fail to understand 5th Gear: they're comparing luxury family EVs by track times and hot hatchbacks by how much ikea carpentry you can shove into their trunk.
See this a lot.
Family cars and crossover are rated entirely on how sporty the drive is.
Heard of kids?
My son will toss the soup immediately with this kind of driving.
Yes. This is really not helpful. Please decide if you want to be a Top Gear or an informative car channel. At this point, you're neither.
this is just one segment the full show probably covered those things i imagine... and this is a very relevant test, these aren't just family evs they are the high performance versions of them, their performance is one of the key selling points the manufacturer pushes about these variants of the car so why wouldn't you test and compare it?
The Polestar looks like a handsome devil compared to the Tesla.
Polestar is a Volvo so no comparison. I chose quality, safety and luxury.
I take it you have not looked at the NCAP score for the Model 3?!
Polestar have the performance upgrade to 476hp now for 1000$
And so do tesla
Set the dampers up properly and add the OTA update and then re run the test...
Doesn't the fact you have to "set the dampers up properly" make a point?
95% will never have that done.
Yeah, but the Polestar much less ugly... Especially the interior.
Who cares when you even can compete?
Polestar interior is terrible. Looks like a Prius
@@nonconsensualopinion and the Tesla interior looks like something an undergraduate computer science class came up with. What's your point?
BEAUTY is Subjective and DOES NOT make the car FASTER.
@@markplott4820 Sure, and whether you care more about a couple hundredths of a second around a track, or aesthetics you find personally pleasing is also a subjective decision.
If you really want speed you can spend €1k and get the Polestar2 dual motor an extra 67bhp and 20Nm - all delivered over the air. Off the track sub 5 second 0-60 is plenty fast enough for me.
Both great cars.
Or get performance boost upgrade for Model 3 LR £ 1,500 over the air up date brings 0 to 60 down to 3.7 seconds.
@@richardcorns8553 damn straight:P
@@DPR1985 True 👍
Eh, that's a Model 3 long range, also your specs for the Model 3 aren't correct, come on fifth gear it's not much to ask for some competence.
I also wouldn't have minded seeing how they both compare on everyday road driving, because I can't really see many people using either on track
@@cuprashoe why would you buy the performance pack if not to take it on track at some point?
I term of daily drive not racing for speed king on the road, Volvo clearly better utilization.
When is Petrol Fifth Gear coming back?
oh boy, that ICE thing is going to be a thing of the past
ride quality would mean more to me but you cant beat Teslas battery and charging network Great to see two very good EV`s
Well Elon mentioned that from next year (2022) he will allow other brands to use the Tesla supercharging network infrastructure (if those vehicles are build to accept the charging socket and cars electronics software & electrical components can accept higher currents).. Now i would like to say that since Polstar did some up-dates for Polstar 2 (which consist in 0-60 in 4,2 and bigger better batteries). So, imo the build quality is far better on Polestar same with the outside look (subjectively at least to me the Tesla 3 looks like a bloated-fish even i-Pace looks better) and also this is a very important aspect since the owning is stressful enough presently without warehouses lots of delays for components, semi-conductors & spare-parts so, i feel like Polstar & Jaguar can fill that gap very easy thru they dealers, Polstar -Volvo & Jaguar that is why i think Polestar 2 or i-Pace are much better overall specially in Europe.. Hopefully the new super-capacitors with aluminum, graphene and Na-sulphur mixtures in the cells cores will be produced sooner for ev's to improve the present battery specs to charge faster, last longer between charges and discharge slower..
Update. Atleast state side you just need an adapter for a non Tesla ev to charge on the super chargers.
What do you mean you can't beat Tesla's battery? Their battery is worst than all the EV's I have owned. My model S could not even go further than 120 miles.It is worst than a Nissan Leaf.
Lol in my area there's a ton more regular chargers than Tesla chargers. Even level 2 chargers are filled with Teslas
@@poplaurentiu4148
You really have no clue about EVs.
Hmm maybe it's the new updates but I have a Polestar 2 dual motor and I've driven my friend's Model 3 dular motor long range and the Polestar 2 is definitely punchier when you press down on the acceleration
That’ll be the additional torque - way more important in the real world than BHP.
Still prefer the polestar !
From all full electric cars i really like the full ev cross-overs : Polestar-2 & Jaguar i-Pace, (small hatch ev : Hyundai ioniq 5 and latest KIA EV6)..
From American market i like only the full electric SUV & Pick-ups like : Rivian (R1T & R1S) and GMC Hummer EV.. ;0)
Didn't they just upgrade the HP in the Polestar with an over the air update with more HP?
Did they update the range too? Because it's rubbish otherwise.
Polestar every time! 🥰
I don't want a China company
@@chichora123 Geely is one of china’s independent companies just so you know it. NOT CCP. Don’t hate whole populations because that equals racism.
@@danishviking6254 Are you crazy? This is about our own livelihood. You don't want us to have even a single job. You want China to take over every single job from the rest of the world?
@@chichora123 It's not a chinese copy. It's made by volvo...bruh
If this is a track comparison, shouldn’t they evaluate the cars after multiple hot laps?
It would be important to know which car is better at managing battery heat on a track day. An overheated battery equals decreased performance and hours of wasted downtime.
I wish the testers would get off the track and go out in the real world to review eg driving in traffic etc Speed is irrelevant due to speed limits
even in CITY mode, the TESLA wins hands down in RANGE, EFFICIENCY , Highway PERFORMANCE , and more.
@@markplott4820 Mark here is a Tesla salesman... I like your cars Mark but I just find them a bit unattractive. Like an inflated puffer fish with a jet engine
@@Poppillon - beauty is ONLY skin deep, TESLA has Superior HANDELING and PERFORMANCE where it counts.
In my PLAID , I can even SMOKE the MOST TUNED Durrango HELLCAT.
and Reguarlly do 8.9sec , some tracks even BAN me, because i'm too FAST and dont Decelerate enough. (no Parachute, no Roll Cage).
@@markplott4820 where it counts for you maybe... plenty of people prefer the driving experience of the P2 over the tesla... and then there's the build quality... it'll come down to what people value I guess
@@Poppillon - Actually, since 2020 Raven , TESLA has made a Step change in Build QUALITY in ALL of the Tesla model S/X 2021 models.
Improved NVH & Build Quality , Improved Suspension & NOISE Reduction (ACTIVE).
REDUCED Factory Defect & Repair Issues.
Increced LONGEVITY of Parts.
Did you adjust the Polestar suspension set to track mode?
They are waiting for the OTA update.
POLESTAR 2 is a SHITTY car from CHINA, thats all you NEED to know.
@@markplott4820 racist!
@@danishviking6254 - NOPE, not an ANALYST.
I can also predict the future.
VOLVO/Polestar will FAIL as BRAND & as SPAC.
@@markplott4820 racist
nice. what about build quality etc.
On pure looks and interior, the Polestar 2 would be my choice.
I still dislike the Model 3's _minimalist, no instrument binnacle_ in front of the driver looks.
That aside. I can't afford either 8-((...
It’s important to note that the new Model 3 with LFP is slower/ heavier than 2021 models.
Its important to note, that Model 3 with LFP has nothing to do with model year per se. Its the go to battery for the Base Model, previously known as Standard Range Plus. Tesla implemented this battery back in late 2020 and is doing so for 2021 and 2022. The shown vehicle was a Long Range and has an NMC Battery.
TM3 maybe faster on the track. But you will be choosing the P2 to drive home.
Who is better at after sales service.
So although you said at the start that the Tesla was £4k more than the Polestar, it actually turns out it's £800 cheaper than the Polestar, later on in the video...
Things that should be kept in mind when looking at EV’s, size of charging network where you live and dealer network as well as part availability. I would also go as far as saying financing options should you buy or lease these pieces of tech particularly now when the advancements are coming fast and furious.
POLESTAR 2 cant even DC FAST charge at 250 kwh, thats something to THINK about.
"dealer network and parts availability"?
Stealth FUD? Really?
How about doorstep service, plus no "stealership" to tweak the price?
@@markplott4820 oh no the horror! Having another 5 minutes to take a piss on my maybe twice a year vacation trip 😱
The fast charging is fine. Faster would be nice, but ‘only’ 150 kWh is not a deal breaker.
@@r87961 - TESLA is building NEW 325 kw DC fast chargers & upgrading V3 to 325kw as well.
Looked like a model 3 long range… so not even the performance version of the model 3…
Definitely a long range
I dont think the long range has 476bhp either, more like 376
@@garethkavanaghdixon7479 it's strange no idea what the real output is, the v5c lists power output of an LR at 361kw. Covert that to bhp gives you 484..
The LR is quick with a fully charged and hot battery, not sure my bum dyno says its 484 though.
I suspect that the car itself has the battery and motors to do 484bhp, thus v5c lists it.. I E its the same hardware underneath as the same performance, hower I guess tesla software restricts max motor power to make it slower therefore probably around 370bhp ish. This is also why they can do the performance boost to increase acceleration by just altering the software to allow more power from the motors.
Yup. I was thinking the same thing.
Model 3 PERFORMANCE would SMOKE the Polestar 2.
Ran the Reg, and as suspected this is not even a model three performance. This car definitely doesn’t have the 476 brake horsepower equivalent that the performance does, you would really hope that a channel such as 5th Gear would’ve at least known what car they had!
I noticed that too. This is the long range car not the performance. I have the exact car that was tested and am glad to know it’s still that fast
Long Range has about 440hp, with boost about 498hp
@@romansenger2322 I’m afraid you’re wrong on that one. The Dual Motor long range in the video comes with 363bhp and 394lb ft on torque. The model 3 performance that was not in this video has 480bhp and 487lb ft of torque. What a shame even Fifth Gear can’t get their facts right. If they had used the actual model three performance and not the long range, it would’ve been a totally different race, the performance would’ve disappeared.
@@francom2052 agree as you want - OR go to Tesla website and see yourself. Its written there. Also, some owners did readings straight from OBD comfirming those power figures.
Curious which sources you can name for your numbers that will trump Tesla themselves.
@@romansenger2322 Roman, certainly not looking for an argument. All I am saying is that the car in the video is as a Model 3 Long Range and not a Model 3 Performance. If you’re saying that the Model 3 Long Range makes with boost download makes 498bhp, then I am curious how much power you are suggesting that Model 3 Performance makes? Closer to 600bhp perhaps? What do your sources tell you about the power output of the Model 3 Performance, that is much faster that the Long Range even after the Long Range has had the speed boost download? Tesla quote 480bhp for the Performance but if you’re saying the slower long range has 498bhp I would love to know how much you think the faster performance model makes. Hurry back with a reply please, I can’t wait to hear. ❤️
If you got the polestar 2 dual motor performance this would be more evenly matched
1:20 Oops! That little visual effect didn't quite work out. It's not quite matching in terms of colour and light.
Times have changed since this video - this is now the equivalent of the mid-spec Tesla (long range std) v the top spec Polestar 2. In Australia at least like for like (top spec Polestar 2 with all packs) v long range with performance wheels - the Polestar ($103k) is $24k more expensive than the long range dual motor ($79k)which is still quicker, has a much longer range and access to a better charger network. The top spec Polestar is more expensive than a Model 3 performance (which is another step up again 0-62 3.3 sec) which is $96k drive away. It's just not a competitive offer.
Why not use the model 3 performance for this test?
Probably because it's £13k more expensive than the Polestar being tested
@@SDK2006b I'm not sure about that.
@@xavierStark84 - The Tesla M3 Performance costs £60k, the Polestar 2 Long Range Dual Motor is £46k, so that’s £14k more for the Tesla
@@SDK2006b - ONLY IN EUROPE, in the USA and China DOMESTIC its Actually CHEAPER .
when GIGABERLIN opens the Model Y PERFORMANCE will be CHEAPER than the MIC model Y.
@@markplott4820 so what? The test is done in Britain
Surely on cars such as these the more important issues are ride and quality
"performance pack" says otherwise.
if you installed the new Polestar software performance upgrade, I am sure things would be quite different
NOPE, the TESLA model 3 PERFORMANCE would still SMOKE it.
@@markplott4820 duh. The video doesn’t compare against a model 3 performance
@@idklol3602 - I know that, but IF you are comparing similar TRIM levels , then it's ONLY FAIR to compare PERFORMANCE model 3 , to Update Polestar 2 w/ Max package as well.
TESLA M3P still wins, on RANGE, SPEED, PERFORMANCE.
@@markplott4820 apple to oranges
@@idklol3602 - Agree, TESLA mod 3P still OUTCLASSES the Polestar 2 MAX upgrade.
So what does a GTI or I30 do around there in comparison for how much less money?
i30 did 46.8 secs around that track driven by steve sutcliffe
Polestar 2 all the way...
I really hope they put the suspension on the polestar in performance mode since its manually adjustable
wont make a DIFFERENCE , Tesla has SUPERIOR Engineering , and RIDE Handling thats BETTER than a BMW M Series.
@@markplott4820 Mark the Tesla sales rep at it again
😂
Well first that was an old US built Model 3 Long range. The Model 3 Performance has 515bhp as dynoed in various videos on RUclips. Second, to anyone who is still banging on about build quality, the Chinese Model 3s are up there with anyone, and when the German Gigafactory ramps up this will finally become the old-news it already is. But mainly efficiency. The Tesla has the same or smaller battery and has significantly more range. Because of the vertical integration and the fact all controllers and software run on a single bank of processors, and not a load of disparate modules (anyone else) the Tesla can easily manage 255Wh per mile. Add in over the air updates, and superchargers and the Polestar just becomes adequate.
Absolutely but the haters like living in the past
What Model 3 are you using? the Long Range? The performance has 660nm of torque and 0-60 in 3.1 seconds...also better brakes and slightly stiffer suspension...plus it has a track software package allowing you to customize handling balance (rear vs front) and stability control...it would have crushed the Polestar on the track.
And you might be saying well the model 3 performance is more expensive ($8K more USD than the Long Range)...but 1) to get all the options on the Polestar 2 that come standard with the Tesla you have to pay roughly $8K more and 2) the hardware is nearly identical to the Long Range, they just software unlock the more power (so it costs Tesla roughly the same to build it...aka for the same costs they are building a much more capable vehicle than the polestar). Specing out the most comparable polestar 2 to the model 3 performance, in the US at least, gets me to a price of $67,400 for the polestar vs. $59,000 for the model 3 performance. The polestar 2 seems great, it really does...just worse than the model 3 in nearly every way (price, range, power, handling, technology, adas system, infotainment smoothness, and imo looks as well).
LG vs Samsung washing machine...
That's just the long range Model 3 you got there and not the performance version that is much faster and comes with track mode and it still beats the top of the line Polestar 2 with performance upgrade. Now I'm wondering how the slowest Model 3 standard range plus with rear wheel drive would do against the top of the line Polestar 2..
Only problem with that statement is the Polestar 2 with the "performance pack" gains absolutely nothing in term of performance, it's more of a cosmetic upgrade. Maybe on a long track day but definitely not a 50 secs~ lap.
@@AW-gj4ji It's not just a cosmetic upgrade. It comes with Ohlins dampers and better brakes.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Please tell me what does it do on public roads, even if it's for the track I've mentioned 50 secs lap it's not being put into use at all.
@@AW-gj4ji A lot of performance cars have performance that isn't useful on public roads. That's why track performance shows more the reviewer throwing the cars around but isn't useful info. The PP on Polestar makes the car feel sharper and gives it more grip on a twisty canyon road vs. the non PP version. I'll admit, most of us don't drive on canyon roads.
@@benjaminsmith2287 alright I will change my statement. The performance pack would improve track time but only if it’s properly tapped into. A casual short run won’t make much of a difference, other than it feel might be better.
EV in general aren’t performance cars, they weren’t designed to be ran on the track either. They might be track capable to a certain extend.
All that power means you get to Tesco 3 seconds sooner.
Best comment 👌🏼
Or heaven !
Polestar is going public. $GGPI. Looking forward to see how Polestar will utilize equity to compete in the market. Hopefully the competition will drive further innovation and reduce costs.
GPPI to $0, its BULLSHIT.
only TSLA is the next TSLA.
Not of these brands unless Tesla comes out with a less expensive car. This is Polestar's least expensive car but the one-motor version is the least expensive. The next Polestar coming out, the 3, will start around $75,000 US. Polestar is a premium brand.
Polestar 2 just got an increase of 67 HP via OTA update..
Exactly +the suspension setting for track might help to improve the Polestar 2 time as well.. ;0)
Then why not using the performance model 3?
@@xavierStark84 Model 3 Performance is a tough customer. But so is the P2 with the upgrade. And there are other reasons to buy a car than just insane performance. Just great performance is good enough for me. :-)
@@xavierStark84 Because Tesla performance Model 3 (at least in Europe) is jumping higher in overall price closer to 60.000 euro without any benefit or any cut-off in purchasing price, bonus, govern grants reduction.. So, instead of performance model 3 maybe add the underdog: X-Peng P7 performance which is costing for about same ball-park money (~45.000 euro) with the ev models presented in this clip above that also bennefit of small overall cut-off price reduction thru govern grants for getting a new green car (which is valid in Europe not sure if also elsewhere).. ;0)
@@poplaurentiu4148 you didn't get the joke?
In talking about prices too.
Not gonna debate which one is "faster". However, it's dumb as hell to judge it by going through a lap. There are variables such as driver skills, track advantage and etc...
he is a professional F1 driver so driver skill is slightly less likely to be a factor than usual to be fair
Lol oxymoron...Tesla and luxury should not be in the same sentence. It's built like a 2002 Ford Focus
How many laps on a charge?
Enough to left behind a Taycan on a REAL RACE.
@@xavierStark84 NO TAYCAN has EVER WON Pikes Peak, 3 Tesla Model 3 competed in 2020.
Blake Fuller won in the STOCK Class.
since nobody really gave you an answer, here is mine: a Model 3 Performance beeing driven hard on the nurburgring with regen fully on will consume about 30% per lap.
On the Hockenheimring you can do a full stint of 30min withouth worrying about charging. The bottleneck will be Thermal Throtteling anyway.
@@romansenger2322 that’s informative thank you
I’d bet my money on the Polestar reaching 150,000 without major problems. The Model 3 has been on sale since 2018 and still has WHOPPING panel gaps on every car!
Dont bet too mutch money on Polestar chinese shit lool Tesla is soo mutch more efficient years ahead in the game
"Fresh off the boat from Sweden." Is that in China?
Exactly
What's this hang up about China? Who cares?
The Tesla shown is made in china btw
@@AndreFarrar it's simply a correct statement versus an incorrect one. Truth still matters.
@@Kraven83 Maybe this particular comment was meant solely to be a corrective statement. But, I see people on Twitter, Reddit, and other RUclips videos constantly complaining about how Geely is a Chinese company.
Not sure why people are hating, I think both cars are really great. I also had the tough decision between a Polestar and a Tesla. I think the interior and overall design is better on the P2. However I decided to go with the Model 3 in the end because of the Supercharger network and the overall better efficiency / range. But let’s see what the future holds, I hope Polestar will advance further with their cars and then I’ll definitely take a second look.
Tesla beats the P2 only in supercharger network and range. P2 beats Tesla in everything else and is a better overall car.
@@tk6729
So apart from
Efficiency
Range
Charging
Interior space
Performance
And judging by this review, Handling.....
It's better....
O....... K
@@rogerstarkey5390 I drove both you meatball. There is no comparison. P2 is a car. 3 is an appliance that is now being passed by the likes of KIA, Hyundai, VW, BMW, Audi etc.... And Toyota and Honda haven't even entered the conversation yet. Like I said, only charging network (we can remove Teslas over inflated range now, and shit lack of carplay/AA) at this point and that life-sized Elon poster for above your bed, that is what 3 has on any EV. Add to this how Teslas look like a giant balloon Miatas, and you and your fan boys can suck it and suck it good. 🎤 drop.
Which part of the model 3 screams luxury as I'm not seeing it..interior is drab and bland
At least the Volvo looks like a car, with the instruments in front of the driver, the Tesla looks like a dodgem car with a computer in the middle of it, meaning the driver has to look away to check speeds or anything else for that matter. People aren't going to buy either of these cars for trackwork, so one being slightly faster than the other around a track is not even in the equation.
I agree. This is useless. For driving around town, the Polestar 2 with PP is too firm. The regular Polestar 2 is firmly comfortable and built extremely solid. Overall, the Tesla feels dartier and spritely but nowhere near as solid with more road noise overall. Both of them can merge onto the highway with no problem, take corners with no problems, and overtake most vehicles with no problem.
Driven most of the ev's out there and there is no different by looking to the right or down to see your speed. Head up display would be the best in both cases. Think there is a reason why tesla dominates the ev sales... and after driving one (or all), I know why.
Volvo is for people that wear tartan slippers and think about their viagra supply running low
Polestar looks WAY better and has more styling
nice review of the cars. I am the happy owner of a TESLA M3P and have test driven the Polestar 2 P. which is an excellent car. but I do not switch from TESLA
The Polestar is gorgeous but it is a fatty, 2.2 tons is no joke! It’s plenty quick but all that extra weight kills the range
A real shame you test the Model3 Long Range ... with "the fastest of the Polestar2" ...
I can only assume that the Performance is out of the price range being over £60k without any options.
The Model 3 Performance with suspension/brakes/wheels and Track Mode would have been much more comparable to the Polestar2 Performance upgrade.
👍Polestar 2
Good ev content
Love the look of Polestar. Much better looking then frogy model 3!
So you don't like Porsche frogs. Ok for you.
Polestar is not Swedish. It’s a Chinese company.🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
It's a Swedish company. Geely is a parent company. Just like BMW is the parent company to Rolls Royce. That doesn't automatically make their design, engineering or the team that makes them Chinese. Geely mostly finances Volvo but Volvo/Polestar are creating their cars. The only thing that Geely shares with them are platforms, and a lot of Volvo engineers went into designing the platforms. Geely's SEA platform was designed by an ex-Volvo engineer.
It's the Tesla model 3 his using is the Performance with track mode 🙈.
@Jeff Lee Only the performance has track mode ... and unfortunately they are not comparing the performance model here... I can only assume because the price difference would have been massive then (Tesla Model 3 Performance is over £60k)
@Jeff Lee that's incorrect. Only Model 3 Performance has it. Not the Long Range or any other variants. Same hold true for Model X, S and Y - no Track mode on any version of those whatsoever. Source: I have a Tesla Rental car company.
@@vasileioscharisopoulos3147 yeah I think their reasoning was price equivalence. They mention it several times and in the end, the "if you have 50k to spend" thing.
@@cooldudept I agree I have the performance model 3 but was I bought it, it was £49 including the grant. However since then the prices shot up again and again.
I do like the polestar 2 however when it comes to charging I cannot concider anything else as there are not enough chargers to use the car as work tool.
This is not a Dual motor performance. It's a LR.
Just look at the rims.
The Polestar is a massively superior machine to live with. Cabin design and comfort, build quality and insulation. Who gives a monkeys if its half second slower over a timed lap, these are road cars for daily use in all conditions on roads with speed limits. Which one would you want to be stuck in Traffic in? Not the unreliable American heap anyway....
@@Ineverreadreplies Polestar 2 just got an increase of 67 HP via OTA update +the fact that on Polstar 2 performance the brakes work really awesome as we see in the clip and the Ohlins suspension-dampers fitted have a setting for track that might help to improve the Polestar 2 time as well that this journalist didn't knew about obviously.. ;0)
@@poplaurentiu4148 who needs more CV when you can update your 0-60 with 1'3 seconds less.
That's why they sell more than the 3....
I've been in a Polestar and it feels like it's 5 years behind the tesla.
@@DuckHunterGaming Depends on your criteria. In terms of build quality and the types of materials used in the cabin, it's ahead of the Tesla. Not everything about cars is the tech. There's other aspects to consider.
Great review, I'm going to buy them both 👍
Top man!
It is all about charging, get it right. presenter is not Chris Harris, this one makes it boring.
Fresh off the boat from Sweden is the *Chinese* polestar 2
tesla is build in china as well, who cares simpleton
@@theyoutubegeek7493 Exactly. What does that prove? To me it shows that Volvo/Geely/Polestar's quality control is a lot better because both cars are made in the same country.
Number one reason to get the Polestar? It's not a Tesla.
I don't'get it?
ppl are buying Tesla Y here, so
Half a second?
I think if the Polestar was on a dedicated EV platform and had less weight, it would do better. But it's quite good for a car on a hybrid platform.
Having 500+ hp cars on the road is asking for trouble. Most people can't even drive 150 hp vehicles responsibly...
This is the Gundam of electric sedans.
Made a guitar cover video for the Gundam Unicorn opening theme, Star Ring Child.
most people driving 150hp wont bother to spend 50k anyway
Polestar is better in terms of quality
Polestar is like a SUV or crossover having 245/40/20 tyres vs 235/40/19 on the model 3
Fifth Gear - its POSSIBLE to eek out a little MORE PERFORMANCE by taking a STOCK Model 3 PERFORMANCE and taking it to a PROFESSIONAL GARAGE like Unplugged Performance and having them go over the car and add REAL PERFORMANCE parts.
once the Model 3P is TUNED it will smoke almost any PRODUCTION Sports Car on the TRACK.
dont overexaggerate it. I have a M3P myself and watch about every video available on the net. The unplugged performance tuned M3P did a 7.44min on the ring. Thas quick for an EV but even a Honda Civic Type R is faster, not to mention any supercars. "Smoke any production car" -> thats completly delusional
@@romansenger2322 Mark has buyers remorse.
Polestar 2 all day...I just don't like Tesla's that much
Low Nm compared to Hp.
Great vlog, Tesla also has better technology, they just need to upgrade the braking system on standard models without having to add the rely on an "add on" package. Having said that, I'd still pick Tesla...
only the Plaid version needs better brakes as standard. Not a $20,000 upgrade.
The model 3 uses the same type of motor as the Prius. Basically it's a copy made larger
This is an adult film, featuring "alternative lifestyles".
90% of people don’t buy ev’s to track them, i only once in my life seen a tesla accelerated hard in the real world. So bad comparison, focus more on space and quality.
I will bet even 99% dont track their car. And if they do they go for the Model 3 performance anyway.
Most people driving Teslas seem to be cruising that I've seen. I see far more people accelerating hard in BMW, Mercedes and Hondas than I see Teslas. Only people on youtube seem to be obsessed with the car's speed. Most owners want an EV and Tesla is one of the few choices out there.
Never been to Norway I guess.. always small races in the traffic
He should have opgrated the polestar with the extra 70 hp.. polstar performance are op to 476 hp.. bye bye tesla
0.5 second speed difference but the tesla is mad ugly compared to Polestar 2!!!!
Fresh off the boat from China... not Sweden....
Who designed this car? Who engineered it? I don't care where it is built. That's almost irrelevant. Future Polestar 2s will be built in Ghent, Belgium where some Volvos are built .Doesn't make Volvo or Polestar Belgian. btw, the British get Chinese built Teslas. And most say they are way better built in terms of fit and finish than the ones coming out of California.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I was simply correcting the announcer, Geely owns and builds Polestar, is all. Yes it (was) a spin-off of Volvo at one point. Yes some of the Teslas in the EU right now are from the Shanghai factory, but it's correctly stated as an American car, as they are designed, engineered and HQ'd in the US and soon all those will come from the Berlin Factory.
@@sketchpro12 Who will "build" the Polestars that will be made in the USA? A lot of American and European products are off the boat from China as well. Or off the boat from another country.
Lovely boring plain interior and cheapo plastic.
There's nothing luxurious about the Model 3 though, the thing rides like a Dacia. It's a through and through low quality car.
its not supposed to, its a SPORTS CAR , the STOCK suspension is OK for Tracks .
but, you can go to ANY COMPETENT Garage and have the MODEL 3 Tuned.
What a rubbish and incompetent comment. Talk before trying
@@markplott4820 it's not a sportscar, it's a daily and relaxing car with good performance
@@mikaeloverby - POLESTAR 2 is a COMPLIANCE built LUXURY car, w/ EMPHASIS on LUXURY rather than PERFORMANCE & HANDELING.
Tesla model 3 SIMPLY OUTCLASSES the POLESTAR 2 in EVERY METRIC, inc Range , Efficiency and SPECS.
Model 3. Built like a Lada with a eco box interior. All for the price of a top end BMW 3 series. Ugh.
Obviously never been near one
@@nzpomdotcom I’ve driven 2 different Model 3s. My in laws have a Model Y. All of them were cheap and poorly built.
@@kevinn1158 "poorly built", please explain what was the issue
You'd think they'd say which Model 3 it is. Waste of a video
It’s the Long Range dual motor as most of the comments on here have pointed out already
Tesla faster at expense of ugliness.
Model Y which is coing is even better. Tesla goes longer with the same amount of electricity
Volvo are the masters of understeer.
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Polestar 2 is made in CHINA by GEELY.
@@markplott4820 All the best shit is now made in China. Who cares?
@@kogikashakunin4683 - NOPE, not even close.
the AUSTIN and BERLIN Tesla model Y PERFORMANCE will be Simply the BEST CAR you can ever buy, and HUNDREDS of lbs LIGHTER than everyone else.
@@markplott4820 Grow up. You sound childish. Tesla's aren't above reproach and they aren't the best cars in the world. Neither are Volvos. Both of these vehicles have their strengths and weaknesses. The Model Y's market share will go down. It's in a highly competitive segment and now electric vehicles on dedicated platforms are coming to compete in that space.
Pretty amusing how one so-called Tesla killer after the other gets killed by Tesla.
Fifth Gear - at BEST the POLESTAR 2 is a COMPLIANCE Luxury car.
its using a CMA EV Platform from GEELY that is too HEAVY and its OUTDATED.
no one BOTHERS with an OLD FASIONED T - shape battery pack anymore.
unlike the POLESTAR 2 the TESLA has a COMPLETELY FLAT Floor , indicating ADVANCED ENGINEERING.
the POLESTAR 2 lacks a LEAN Design and is Terriably INEFFICIENT , its also NOT a CLEAN SHEET Design , the BODY is a modified GAS car body that has a VESTEGIAL Transmission Tunnel under the body, this along with the CMA Platform , makes the POLESTAR 2 less EFFICIENT, less RANGE, less PERFORMANCE and too HEAVY.
The CMA platform EV's are held back by having to fit ICE, hybrid and EV. That's right and I agree it is compromised by it, however flat floor battery isn't always the best solution. Rimac Nevera uses more of a T shape aswell, because that way you can lower the seating position and lower the whole car by that. Lower means better handling and less drag
polestar2 is much more handsome but that is all
No limits on speed .yet e bikes limited to 15mph , we e-cyclists need at least 40mph -50 mph to keep up with traffic that's capable of such speed