Another interesting video would be: what if the chains merged but Creative Engineering had sold the rights to the Rock-Afire Explosion? Then maybe Concept Unification would have meant that all Chuck-E-Cheese cyberamics would have been retrofitted into Rock-Afire characters, which would just be plain bizarre...
@Stardian Peter Piper's isn't the same thing, though. They don't have animatronics and aren't in direct competition with each other I feel. I think they would probably phase out CEC if they managed to get ahold of the RAE characters.
Damn, that was interesting! I thought that kids today being more focused on electronics and social media, as well as the pandemic, could have spelt trouble for Discovery Zone in this what-if, but I guess not!
You can get kids away from the digital stuff sometimes if you have an interesting enough pull, and I thought jump parks were an interesting enough thing to do so. Plus, during the pandemic they'd heavily promote the RAE with more movies, video games, and maybe even a show.
Great video. Sucks that CEC had to go down, but I would have loved to see the RAE at a Discovery Zone. Aaron, Sal, Duke, Rick, Shalisa, and Jeff, all pumping out a good amount of new content. I'd gladly watch a RAE animated movie.
As sad as it would’ve been for CEC to close down, this idea involving Discovery Zone and the Rockafire is really cool, and I kinda wish it was what we got
It’s really sad now without the animatronics. I get kids were scared of them, but it was entertaining watching them move and stuff as I wanna be an engineer when I grow up, however, I recently went to a Chuck E. Cheese and now it’s just… sad. Instead of the little balcony, it’s just a wall with their pictures. It looks like they got murdered or something. I really wished they never tore down these things (This might be childish, but I have a huge interest in Chuck E. Cheese back then. I’m sure this is common, but I literally have a full on playlist for it)
Part of this channel (well, honestly, the majority) is dedicated to making videos on the topic, so you don't need to feel childish at all about it. Finding the history of these places and preserving it and allowing it to live on is what we're here for so that future generations can see it.
@@ItzaRob thank you!! I barely found this channel and honestly I wish I found it earlier because this video gave me so much info and concepts of what could’ve happened. I subscribed and such already, ive seen some of your videos and they’re honestly really entertaining and ive learned some more. A lot of videos I watch on the topic are just repetitive and the same thing over and over, but this was interesting and like a breath of fresh air. But I agree, I’m really sad newer generations won’t even get to see the originals or atleast older versions then Chuck E. Cheese now.
Now that was interesting. Alternate histories are always the most fascinating. Now if you'll excuse my alternate universe self, I have some binging to do. A Rock-afire series on Disney crossing over with Circus Playhouse? Who would've guessed?
Big ups to you my guy, i enjoyed this video a lot. As a person who have never experienced the Rock afire explosion irl, this is something i think about quite often. Its nice to see someone think on it as well.
@@ultimategaymerboy Awe thank you, its a ripped and then Edited Volkner Sprite from Pokemon Platinum to more represent my Oc. Kinda Cringe, but i like it a lot.
I think showbiz would have replaced the Rock-afire no matter what just because even before they merged with CEC they were testing out different bands to replace the Rock-afire with. And there are even sketches of what they were planning on replacing the Rock-afire with
Correct, they wanted to get rid of their need for the Rock-afire Explosion since it was a copyright Creative Engineering owned. It's interesting though that they were wanting to replace them so early. In this answer/continuity though, their money struggles in the 90's never allowed them to go that route and they went bankrupt (I didn't ever specify why they never switched to new characters in my answer and this is why).
And what didn't help was that the only person in the company that even like Aaron or CEI was Bob Brock. Everyone else just gave Aaron and CEI a hard time.
Oh wow thats an awesome video! Tbh i really liked this scenario, although i would prefer an what if scenario were both places still existed lol, i mean yeah they were rivals but so are burger king and mac donalds and both of then still existed togheter so i would like an what if were both chains still existed, i would be most curious about what would happen with showbiz when chuck e cheese started to do this new rebranding, would they tryvto do the same our still have the animatronics?
@@potatocraft952 Chuck E. Cheese IS an international franchise, just not a huge one. They mainly have locations in Canada and in Mexico in terms of international presence, but they've been in other places too like France.
Honestly, I wouldn’t like a world we’re cec faded away instead of showbiz, but I would also like to see what showbiz would be like Maybe, the next video could be what if concept unification never happened
Hm, yeah maybe. Or they could do what CEC did and not care whatsoever. It would have at least boosted the growth of the franchise (DZ and the RAE) though.
I do think its plausible that fector would make a deal with discovery zone at this point but i dont think the rockafire alone would save discovery zone. It fell because it wasnt able to properly manage expenses after the initial growth. expenses that would be higher if they had expensive animatronics in their stores. A show availble elsewhere might i add. Even if you argue showbiz falls anyway (which makes little sense considering cec was thriving at the time) making dz the only place you can see them and increasing there revenue im sure it wouldnt save them. If it did they would still only be recovering. Plus even if Fector approached them whos to say DZ would accept. i mean its a good idea but still one worth taking extreme consideration on.
The video game crash was always inevitable, as all the different games companies had too much supply over demand, quality control was absolutely lacking, there was no rating system in place, the video game crash was always going to happen.
@@ShellyStew I could but it's a topic within the community which has been covered quite a bit, so I try to focus on the lost media of specific CEC/SPP locations as that's something people don't focus as much on. I actually found footage of my childhood local location when it was a SPP, which was pretty awesome.
I have an idea what happened if Concept Unification never happened but instead the Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz Pizza Place animatronics showed up in the same place (All of the locations would be Showbiz Pizza place but would still include the Chuck E Cheese Animatronics and mascots)
I don't see how this would feasibly work, that's two different casts of characters that would be difficult to advertise (due to both franchises combined being such a large cast of characters to have to handle). While I understand these videos aren't meant to be completely realistic, they're meant to be more down to earth and this feels like something not feasible whatsoever.
Here's an idea. Two times, Nolan Bushnell offered Aaron Fechter a chance to work with him back in the 70s. Fechter refused both times. However, what if Fechter accepted Bushnell's offer?
I got a question for you! What if someone made a merch store WITH a play area for kids? Cause that someone wanted to be a new generation of stores for kids via toys r us The bigger stores would have bigger playplaces and some rare occasions jump parks And that someone wanted his dream to come true?
@@ItzaRob Oh t shirts, mugs, tumblers, tote bags I am planning to put toys in the deliveries Soon there will be official toys of my own cartoon characters And that someone is me!
@@ItzaRob Thank you! Trust me, once imaginami studios begins, people like you will be making videos! And just that, cause I don’t want a whole lot It’s too stressful
I watched the whole thing, and I have some small corrections (i do not run a business im probably wrong xD) -the animatronics would've gotten out already since actually kids don't watch them anymore -places like discovery zone lost traction years ago, so they probably would've been bankrupt like in 2014 -the company logo would've changed in the style of Discovery Zone (like what cec did to showbiz) das it. can't wait for the 3 stages! (is there a 3 stage close to joliet? if so where?)
The first point is debatable. The basic Cyberamic that was designed for CEC restaurants over 40 years ago are still being used (not exact bots but the same design) so I'd argue they could still be around ESPECIALLY if they innovate like I talk about in the video. The second point I find a bit confusing because I discuss how play places lost traction and how they changed by changing from playtubes to jump parks which ARE popular nowadays. The third point is valid tho, I just didn't bother to make a new logo lol, they most certainly would have changed their logo over time. As for your other question, the last 3 stages are in Charlotte, North Carolina, Altoona, Pennsylvania, Visalia, California, Billings, Montana, and Tallahassee, Florida. I don't believe Illinois is near any of those unfortunately.
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS I forgot about a location! It's not a 3 stage but instead the last CU-1 stage (a 3 stage which only has 1 stage), which is in Springfield Illinois. It's 2 1/2 hours from Joliet apparently so I'm not sure if that's close enough for you or not but it's definitely more possible than the last 3 stages!
It seems like you did include a couple of hints at Aaron Fechter's more vindictive side in this alternate history, with how ruthlessly he navigated the competition between Showbiz and Discovery Zone, but in a seemingly less harmful context since it's aimed at business rivals who'd screwed him over, and not the fans of his own creations. Regarding Beach Bear v3: could they not have studied "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" to get an idea how to get Beach Bear to stand up? Disney had worked that question out back in the 60s, after all.
@@ItzaRob Probably because in the story of the family entertainment center wars, Disney, despite being one of THE first companies to use animatronics to this degree, it really only pops up in retellings at the beginning, and then rarely after that, unless it's like Defunctland's episode on Disney's own attempt to cash in in the 90s. But I digress. Anyways, assuming the cosmetics on Beach Bear aren't much heavier than on the Lincoln animatronic, it should in theory be easy to replicate.
Somebody asked this question already, basically I'm unsure if any would've closed permanently but they would've probably taken advantage of it and used the RAE in more movies/shows/video games to make money during the pandemic.
Would this effect barney and friends? Cause i heard 4 people from chuck e cheese worked on barney (which is bob west as barney's voice, Stephen white as a script writer, Duncan brannan as bobs understudy, and David wolf as a music director).
That’s not my question to answer, as I don’t care about the effects outside of Chuck E. Cheese or Showbiz Pizza Place/The Rock-afire Explosion. These videos are about the changes made and how they effect those entities, not anything outside of that.
Good question, I'm not sure. It's something I unfortunately neglect to cover here, though if I had to guess, probably not due to how synonymous the RAE name would've been with Discovery Zone and them not wanting other FEC's to have it.
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS How is that so? By the time the NRAE was being developed, Creative Engineering had pretty much broken away from Showbiz Pizza Time. If anything, the Studio C designs would have been based off the Awesome Adventure Machine concept. The only similarity I see in the NRAE and Studio C is the fact that neither use instruments on their animatronics and just have them sing.
That would require going beyond 2023, which is something that I can't really do since there's no basis in real life to go off of, so I'd be doing complete guessing which isn't exactly the point of this. Moreso guessing based off of real events what could happen.
TBH, Nintendo was the reason the game crash ended. BTW, wouldn't Aaron Fechter gradually transition to using electronic servos and less on hydraulics overtime?
Yes, but without the game crash, what would Nintendo have done with the NES? Its marketing could have been different, maybe in a way that would've made it fail and cause them to not have a presence over here anymore, or worse, go out of the gaming industry entirely. That's why I don't like thinking about the game crash not happening.
@@ItzaRob Actually, the game crash seemed to affect mostly the North American market because at least back in Japan, they were doing fine and dandy. If the game crash didn't happen, it's very likely we would've been sold not the NES system, but something more similar to the Famicon instead. And even if Nintendo wouldn't get the amount of market shares like in our timeline, they'd still be fine in the long run. In our timeline, Nintendo fought tooth and nail just to get their foot in the door of the North American market. As a result, they resorted to drastic strategy such as marketing their device more as a toy than a video game console _(hence why Nintendo is perceived more as kid-friendly and rebranded as "NES")_ . Secondly, they made exclusive deal to many major department stores and alike to get them to sell their NES on their shelves by offering a share of profits of every consoles sold. These measures would be enough to put an end to the game crash period.
@@KuDastardly I'm fully aware of the story behind the NES, and that the video game crash mostly affected North America. My point is that without that crash, they would have likely not marketed the NES the same way and it's possible it could have failed as a result. I just don't know what could have happened if that had happened for Nintendo so that's why I didn't want to cover it. As for the servo question, Creative Engineering's animatronics never used hydraulics to my knowledge, they were entirely pneumatic for the most part (except for the New RAE which had electronic servos in their eyes). I'm also not sure how strong electronic servos are and if they could handle the weight needed to safely make the animatronic stand up and sit back down (like in Beach Bear V3's case that I came up with).
@@ItzaRob Point taken. Either way, Nintendo would still thrive nonetheless. In the North American market, the only failure I'd see is not acquiring the monopoly power as they did in our time line. As for pneumatics, that's what I meant, not hydraulics. When I mentioned electronic servos, I meant overtime as in when better technology became available. This exactly what Disney did with their animatronic technology over the decades.
CEI did use electronic servos in the eye of the Mijjin style animatronics, but Aaron said that after having experience using it, he didn't like them and preferred using Pneumatics.
4:19 And Even thought Showbiz Would’ve been licensed….doesn’t mean it wouldn’t effect the Rock Afire right? Whoever now owns it can technically do whatever they want with it….or unless they have to have permission from Arron. Also If video game crash never happened, would Nintendo remain the same? Like Mario, Sonic, Pokemon Etc?
No "What If No Video Game Crash" videos, it would be such an open ended question that I have no clue what would have happened. Not to mention not relating it to CEC or SPP means hardly anyone will watch it. I also don't know what you mean by the license, it just simply meant they could use the characters in their restaurants. That also means they could modify the characters in their own ways, but it wouldn't impact how others decided to use it unless they also wanted to make those changes.
Yeah, but this is just my opinion on what I thought would happen based off real life events. With competitors who do such similar things, one was going to lose and I thought it would be Chuck E. Cheese due to the issues they were having which caused their bankruptcy in the first place. Here it would've happened due to fierce competition and the other factors I mentioned in the video. It would be interesting imagining a answer to this question where Chuck E. Cheese survived, however.
@@fantasylandviews2320 I may in the future, we'll see. I really don't think it would be THAT different from today though, CEC ended up surviving to this very day and you see how that's going nowadays.
I'm gonna tell this to anyone who does this, but please don't make comments like this. I have an entire list of active requests for history videos I need to fulfill and the earlier you ask, the sooner the video will be made (aside from locations that still have 3 stages as I'm going to be starting a mini-series on those). Your request is going to take awhile to get to because of the fact that there's a lot of other requesters that came before you. I apologize for the wait but that is how I've chosen to do it.
Can you do if Aron fector gave up the rights to the rock a fire exploastion show biz pizza what if video if he gave the rights to them cause dino nugget extra ranch was terminated gone with all his videos its 2024 and thares no new video 📹
No, I'm genuinely shocked by it. I'd uploaded that Pineville 3 Stage video to archive the stage for when it eventually got removed (it may not get removed though). I didn't think a bunch of people would actually wanna see this stuff and keep coming back so consistently to my videos, especially the 272 who decided they wanted to keep up with my content.
Hay rob do one well a youtuber that was taken down names dinosour chicken nuggets with extra ranch did in 2 parts on june 2 2021 that it is and. Was taken off the youtube search bar but you can do it still what if Aaron fector gave up the rights of the rock a fire exploastion to showbiz pizza 🍕 from the design mascot costume other characters up to 2012 and how chuck e cheese will be affected or purchased in a merge still maybe considere please from klj video prodcuctions former plush fnaf and beanie boo uploader and youtuber of a dead channel thank you
I could imagine creative engineering by this point would've created some insane rockafire animatronics right now
maybe the whole band with get 2nd gen versions
like disney like animatronics
@@Skymakescrafts I wonder what a second gen billybob and looney bird could be like
@@sammyjaohnson5631 true
Imagine rae bots that can walk off the stage and interact with guests during intermission
Another interesting video would be: what if the chains merged but Creative Engineering had sold the rights to the Rock-Afire Explosion? Then maybe Concept Unification would have meant that all Chuck-E-Cheese cyberamics would have been retrofitted into Rock-Afire characters, which would just be plain bizarre...
Maybe, depends on if they decided the Rock-afire characters were more profitable for them or not. I like this idea though.
I've always wondered what a cyberamics RAE would have looked like.
Or imagine if showbiz never existed, what would happen??
@@FECvision This could be an interesting idea, I'll have to think about it.
@Stardian Peter Piper's isn't the same thing, though. They don't have animatronics and aren't in direct competition with each other I feel. I think they would probably phase out CEC if they managed to get ahold of the RAE characters.
Something like this is what I would consider "The Best Timeline" in my opinion.
Damn, that was interesting! I thought that kids today being more focused on electronics and social media, as well as the pandemic, could have spelt trouble for Discovery Zone in this what-if, but I guess not!
You can get kids away from the digital stuff sometimes if you have an interesting enough pull, and I thought jump parks were an interesting enough thing to do so. Plus, during the pandemic they'd heavily promote the RAE with more movies, video games, and maybe even a show.
Great video. Sucks that CEC had to go down, but I would have loved to see the RAE at a Discovery Zone. Aaron, Sal, Duke, Rick, Shalisa, and Jeff, all pumping out a good amount of new content. I'd gladly watch a RAE animated movie.
As sad as it would’ve been for CEC to close down, this idea involving Discovery Zone and the Rockafire is really cool, and I kinda wish it was what we got
It’s really sad now without the animatronics. I get kids were scared of them, but it was entertaining watching them move and stuff as I wanna be an engineer when I grow up, however, I recently went to a Chuck E. Cheese and now it’s just… sad. Instead of the little balcony, it’s just a wall with their pictures. It looks like they got murdered or something. I really wished they never tore down these things
(This might be childish, but I have a huge interest in Chuck E. Cheese back then. I’m sure this is common, but I literally have a full on playlist for it)
Part of this channel (well, honestly, the majority) is dedicated to making videos on the topic, so you don't need to feel childish at all about it. Finding the history of these places and preserving it and allowing it to live on is what we're here for so that future generations can see it.
@@ItzaRob thank you!! I barely found this channel and honestly I wish I found it earlier because this video gave me so much info and concepts of what could’ve happened. I subscribed and such already, ive seen some of your videos and they’re honestly really entertaining and ive learned some more. A lot of videos I watch on the topic are just repetitive and the same thing over and over, but this was interesting and like a breath of fresh air. But I agree, I’m really sad newer generations won’t even get to see the originals or atleast older versions then Chuck E. Cheese now.
Now that was interesting. Alternate histories are always the most fascinating.
Now if you'll excuse my alternate universe self, I have some binging to do. A Rock-afire series on Disney crossing over with Circus Playhouse? Who would've guessed?
Big ups to you my guy, i enjoyed this video a lot. As a person who have never experienced the Rock afire explosion irl, this is something i think about quite often. Its nice to see someone think on it as well.
nice pfp
@@ultimategaymerboy Awe thank you, its a ripped and then Edited Volkner Sprite from Pokemon Platinum to more represent my Oc. Kinda Cringe, but i like it a lot.
@@IDKamu your welcome 💖
Fun fact: Discovery Zone, in our timeline, was owned by Blockbuster (itself owned by Viacom) from 1995-1997.
It even had Nickelodeon themed stuff.
CONGRATULATIONS BROTHA (You just earned ANOTHER Subscriber) 😄😉 Well done my guy… very well done!!! 😌✌🏽❤️
Another goated video plus goated PFP. Very cool.
I think showbiz would have replaced the Rock-afire no matter what just because even before they merged with CEC they were testing out different bands to replace the Rock-afire with. And there are even sketches of what they were planning on replacing the Rock-afire with
Correct, they wanted to get rid of their need for the Rock-afire Explosion since it was a copyright Creative Engineering owned. It's interesting though that they were wanting to replace them so early. In this answer/continuity though, their money struggles in the 90's never allowed them to go that route and they went bankrupt (I didn't ever specify why they never switched to new characters in my answer and this is why).
And what didn't help was that the only person in the company that even like Aaron or CEI was Bob Brock. Everyone else just gave Aaron and CEI a hard time.
@@papachillothezappey4050 according to Aaron Fechter, at least.
You deserve way more views man! This is a great video and really well made!
Oh wow thats an awesome video! Tbh i really liked this scenario, although i would prefer an what if scenario were both places still existed lol, i mean yeah they were rivals but so are burger king and mac donalds and both of then still existed togheter so i would like an what if were both chains still existed, i would be most curious about what would happen with showbiz when chuck e cheese started to do this new rebranding, would they tryvto do the same our still have the animatronics?
Another question i have is what if chucky cheese turned into a internacional franchise?
@@potatocraft952 Chuck E. Cheese IS an international franchise, just not a huge one. They mainly have locations in Canada and in Mexico in terms of international presence, but they've been in other places too like France.
@@ItzaRob oh, tbh i didnt knew that
Video idea: What if Aaron Fechter did give Showbiz Pizza the rights to the Rock-afire?
RAE Concept Unification I guess? It could be an interesting topic to touch on.
@@ItzaRobplease do it!
Honestly, I wouldn’t like a world we’re cec faded away instead of showbiz, but I would also like to see what showbiz would be like
Maybe, the next video could be what if concept unification never happened
15 mins of my life worth it.
Im so mad this wasnt real
Honestly agreed lol
This was a very great video!
Thank you for the kind words.
Yo welcome
Awesome Video!😎👍
Honestly without the video game crash we’d get the CEC nbc Xmas special
Release of FNAF in 2014 would certainly have some impact on that timeline as well
Hm, yeah maybe. Or they could do what CEC did and not care whatsoever. It would have at least boosted the growth of the franchise (DZ and the RAE) though.
@@ItzaRob dang it chuck e cheese is gonna close down somehow.
@@viviennemorgan7217 In the video or in real life?
@@ItzaRob it might be the video
@@ItzaRob
How would it have boosted the growth of both franchises though?
I do think its plausible that fector would make a deal with discovery zone at this point but i dont think the rockafire alone would save discovery zone. It fell because it wasnt able to properly manage expenses after the initial growth. expenses that would be higher if they had expensive animatronics in their stores. A show availble elsewhere might i add. Even if you argue showbiz falls anyway (which makes little sense considering cec was thriving at the time) making dz the only place you can see them and increasing there revenue im sure it wouldnt save them. If it did they would still only be recovering. Plus even if Fector approached them whos to say DZ would accept. i mean its a good idea but still one worth taking extreme consideration on.
The video game crash was always inevitable, as all the different games companies had too much supply over demand, quality control was absolutely lacking, there was no rating system in place, the video game crash was always going to happen.
Howdy, new sub here 😂, enjoy your videos a lot
You should definitely cover lost media content, definitely what is popular right now
@@ShellyStew I could but it's a topic within the community which has been covered quite a bit, so I try to focus on the lost media of specific CEC/SPP locations as that's something people don't focus as much on. I actually found footage of my childhood local location when it was a SPP, which was pretty awesome.
I have an idea what happened if Concept Unification never happened but instead the Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz Pizza Place animatronics showed up in the same place (All of the locations would be Showbiz Pizza place but would still include the Chuck E Cheese Animatronics and mascots)
I don't see how this would feasibly work, that's two different casts of characters that would be difficult to advertise (due to both franchises combined being such a large cast of characters to have to handle). While I understand these videos aren't meant to be completely realistic, they're meant to be more down to earth and this feels like something not feasible whatsoever.
Here's an idea. Two times, Nolan Bushnell offered Aaron Fechter a chance to work with him back in the 70s. Fechter refused both times. However, what if Fechter accepted Bushnell's offer?
Nolan would have reverse engineered the animatronics and put him out of a job, I've heard Nolan stole other people's ideas before that
THIS IS THE BEST maybe aaron can make new rae animatronics and make a few stores in us and internationaly!!
So excited!
This is going to be a good video
I got a question for you!
What if someone made a merch store WITH a play area for kids?
Cause that someone wanted to be a new generation of stores for kids via toys r us
The bigger stores would have bigger playplaces and some rare occasions jump parks
And that someone wanted his dream to come true?
What merch do you speak of here though?
@@ItzaRob
Oh t shirts, mugs, tumblers, tote bags
I am planning to put toys in the deliveries
Soon there will be official toys of my own cartoon characters
And that someone is me!
@@Imaginamisuperfun Ah ok. I wish you the best of luck with that then.
@@ItzaRob
Thank you!
Trust me, once imaginami studios begins, people like you will be making videos!
And just that, cause I don’t want a whole lot
It’s too stressful
14:34 Chuck E’s Wonderland
I've got a theoretical timeline that prevents 2.0 from being the "end-all be-all" that Apollo Global a-holes are forcing it to be.
I'll just email it to you, and you can edit and expand upon it however you see fit...
I wonder what the timeline is?
I love real life fan fiction
I watched the whole thing, and I have some small corrections (i do not run a business im probably wrong xD)
-the animatronics would've gotten out already since actually kids don't watch them anymore
-places like discovery zone lost traction years ago, so they probably would've been bankrupt like in 2014
-the company logo would've changed in the style of Discovery Zone (like what cec did to showbiz)
das it. can't wait for the 3 stages! (is there a 3 stage close to joliet? if so where?)
The first point is debatable. The basic Cyberamic that was designed for CEC restaurants over 40 years ago are still being used (not exact bots but the same design) so I'd argue they could still be around ESPECIALLY if they innovate like I talk about in the video.
The second point I find a bit confusing because I discuss how play places lost traction and how they changed by changing from playtubes to jump parks which ARE popular nowadays.
The third point is valid tho, I just didn't bother to make a new logo lol, they most certainly would have changed their logo over time.
As for your other question, the last 3 stages are in Charlotte, North Carolina, Altoona, Pennsylvania, Visalia, California, Billings, Montana, and Tallahassee, Florida. I don't believe Illinois is near any of those unfortunately.
alr, I probably misunderstood the 2nd reason@@ItzaRob
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS I forgot about a location! It's not a 3 stage but instead the last CU-1 stage (a 3 stage which only has 1 stage), which is in Springfield Illinois. It's 2 1/2 hours from Joliet apparently so I'm not sure if that's close enough for you or not but it's definitely more possible than the last 3 stages!
@@ItzaRob i knew about the CU 1-stage but thanks
It seems like you did include a couple of hints at Aaron Fechter's more vindictive side in this alternate history, with how ruthlessly he navigated the competition between Showbiz and Discovery Zone, but in a seemingly less harmful context since it's aimed at business rivals who'd screwed him over, and not the fans of his own creations.
Regarding Beach Bear v3: could they not have studied "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" to get an idea how to get Beach Bear to stand up? Disney had worked that question out back in the 60s, after all.
I hadn't thought about that animatronic! I'm sure they could've, though I didn't think about that animatronic for some reason when making this.
@@ItzaRob Probably because in the story of the family entertainment center wars, Disney, despite being one of THE first companies to use animatronics to this degree, it really only pops up in retellings at the beginning, and then rarely after that, unless it's like Defunctland's episode on Disney's own attempt to cash in in the 90s. But I digress.
Anyways, assuming the cosmetics on Beach Bear aren't much heavier than on the Lincoln animatronic, it should in theory be easy to replicate.
how would've the covid-19 pandemic impacted showbiz/discovery zone??? would've they had to close any stores??
Somebody asked this question already, basically I'm unsure if any would've closed permanently but they would've probably taken advantage of it and used the RAE in more movies/shows/video games to make money during the pandemic.
This is underrated
Altoona is my local location it’s great!
That would mean we get to see anamatronics
Would this effect barney and friends? Cause i heard 4 people from chuck e cheese worked on barney (which is bob west as barney's voice, Stephen white as a script writer, Duncan brannan as bobs understudy, and David wolf as a music director).
That’s not my question to answer, as I don’t care about the effects outside of Chuck E. Cheese or Showbiz Pizza Place/The Rock-afire Explosion. These videos are about the changes made and how they effect those entities, not anything outside of that.
He shouldn’t have 221 subscribers he should have 10k🎉
I have over 570 now, but thanks for the compliment!
6:08 mitzi could've also work with this change
Would other fec locations would would have/sill have the rock afire explosion like billy bob’s wonderland?
Good question, I'm not sure. It's something I unfortunately neglect to cover here, though if I had to guess, probably not due to how synonymous the RAE name would've been with Discovery Zone and them not wanting other FEC's to have it.
You should make a video on my question titled, “What if Chuck E. Cheese’s never continued Studio C?”
So basically never would have gotten past the testing phase then?
did you know studio C was built on the New Rock-afire Explosion designs@@ItzaRob ?
Now You got run 280 subscribers
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS How is that so? By the time the NRAE was being developed, Creative Engineering had pretty much broken away from Showbiz Pizza Time. If anything, the Studio C designs would have been based off the Awesome Adventure Machine concept. The only similarity I see in the NRAE and Studio C is the fact that neither use instruments on their animatronics and just have them sing.
@@ItzaRob it was inspired by NRAE because the advanced movements it had, and the fact that look eerily similiar
You should make a part two for your 400 subscriber special
That would require going beyond 2023, which is something that I can't really do since there's no basis in real life to go off of, so I'd be doing complete guessing which isn't exactly the point of this. Moreso guessing based off of real events what could happen.
What would happen to animatronic places know would they still be pizza places or would they actually have variety
i was the 601 sub
The best timeline
Please make a video about what if showbiz pizza place never was founded
Interesting, I'll see what I can do.
Been thinking about it for months.
The reality that should’ve happened
1 year and 3 months ago
5k now wow
i think this will be not bad
TBH, Nintendo was the reason the game crash ended. BTW, wouldn't Aaron Fechter gradually transition to using electronic servos and less on hydraulics overtime?
Yes, but without the game crash, what would Nintendo have done with the NES? Its marketing could have been different, maybe in a way that would've made it fail and cause them to not have a presence over here anymore, or worse, go out of the gaming industry entirely. That's why I don't like thinking about the game crash not happening.
@@ItzaRob Actually, the game crash seemed to affect mostly the North American market because at least back in Japan, they were doing fine and dandy. If the game crash didn't happen, it's very likely we would've been sold not the NES system, but something more similar to the Famicon instead. And even if Nintendo wouldn't get the amount of market shares like in our timeline, they'd still be fine in the long run.
In our timeline, Nintendo fought tooth and nail just to get their foot in the door of the North American market. As a result, they resorted to drastic strategy such as marketing their device more as a toy than a video game console _(hence why Nintendo is perceived more as kid-friendly and rebranded as "NES")_ . Secondly, they made exclusive deal to many major department stores and alike to get them to sell their NES on their shelves by offering a share of profits of every consoles sold. These measures would be enough to put an end to the game crash period.
@@KuDastardly I'm fully aware of the story behind the NES, and that the video game crash mostly affected North America. My point is that without that crash, they would have likely not marketed the NES the same way and it's possible it could have failed as a result. I just don't know what could have happened if that had happened for Nintendo so that's why I didn't want to cover it.
As for the servo question, Creative Engineering's animatronics never used hydraulics to my knowledge, they were entirely pneumatic for the most part (except for the New RAE which had electronic servos in their eyes). I'm also not sure how strong electronic servos are and if they could handle the weight needed to safely make the animatronic stand up and sit back down (like in Beach Bear V3's case that I came up with).
@@ItzaRob Point taken. Either way, Nintendo would still thrive nonetheless. In the North American market, the only failure I'd see is not acquiring the monopoly power as they did in our time line. As for pneumatics, that's what I meant, not hydraulics. When I mentioned electronic servos, I meant overtime as in when better technology became available. This exactly what Disney did with their animatronic technology over the decades.
CEI did use electronic servos in the eye of the Mijjin style animatronics, but Aaron said that after having experience using it, he didn't like them and preferred using Pneumatics.
4:19 And Even thought Showbiz Would’ve been licensed….doesn’t mean it wouldn’t effect the Rock Afire right? Whoever now owns it can technically do whatever they want with it….or unless they have to have permission from Arron.
Also If video game crash never happened, would Nintendo remain the same? Like Mario, Sonic, Pokemon Etc?
No "What If No Video Game Crash" videos, it would be such an open ended question that I have no clue what would have happened. Not to mention not relating it to CEC or SPP means hardly anyone will watch it. I also don't know what you mean by the license, it just simply meant they could use the characters in their restaurants. That also means they could modify the characters in their own ways, but it wouldn't impact how others decided to use it unless they also wanted to make those changes.
@@ItzaRob
I mean if they are licensed to another business then can whoever owns them now do whatever they want with them.
Video idea
What if Chuck E. Cheese never existed
Then showbiz wouldn't have either, and possibly another animatronic restaurant chain would have begun a bit later, around 1981-1982
Love it
What if Showbiz never closed down
I respect your opinion on fnaf
When did I state my opinion on FNAF in this video or the other one you commented on?
@@christiancardona7342 Can you stop spamming this please?
Ok
420 subscribers nice
Lol
i want this NOW
I have an idea, what if this happened but chuck e cheese was the one that succeeded
I'm not sure, I'll have to think about if I wanna do this or not.
if they never merged than something will happen or get rid of chuck e and replace him with a different animatronic.
since he won't be there anymore or they might be bankrupt.
Yes, in my answer to the "what if" question here, they ended up going bankrupt in the late 80's.
@@ItzaRob oh ok.
You should so if chuck was a coyote
TBH I would rather have Chuck E Cheese still win in the end not Showbiz or Discover Zone.
Yeah, but this is just my opinion on what I thought would happen based off real life events. With competitors who do such similar things, one was going to lose and I thought it would be Chuck E. Cheese due to the issues they were having which caused their bankruptcy in the first place. Here it would've happened due to fierce competition and the other factors I mentioned in the video. It would be interesting imagining a answer to this question where Chuck E. Cheese survived, however.
@@ItzaRob Could do an Alternate Version.
@@fantasylandviews2320 I may in the future, we'll see. I really don't think it would be THAT different from today though, CEC ended up surviving to this very day and you see how that's going nowadays.
Oh but what if they never remodeled Chuck E in 2012
It could be interesting I guess, but they would have remodeled eventually and rebranded I'm sure so I don't know.
@@ItzaRob can you make that a vid
@@bigredo346 No promises, I'm not sure there's much I can do with that idea since it's too unrealistic.
Still waiting on a Gastonia video
I'm gonna tell this to anyone who does this, but please don't make comments like this. I have an entire list of active requests for history videos I need to fulfill and the earlier you ask, the sooner the video will be made (aside from locations that still have 3 stages as I'm going to be starting a mini-series on those). Your request is going to take awhile to get to because of the fact that there's a lot of other requesters that came before you. I apologize for the wait but that is how I've chosen to do it.
If Chuck E. Cheese Merged with Nintendo?
Why would they ever do that?
Because if Chuck E. Cheese and Nintendo Merged then their company can get bigger and bigger
@@JessePuterbaughII You could say that about literally any two companies. I just don't see how that would work.
What if Nintendo and Chuck E. Cheese merged then they’ll have to Make Nintendo robots out of them
That's a very silly idea. I'm good on doing an idea like this, it's pretty ridiculous and doesn't make a lot of sense.
15:03 why did the level of your voice start to rise?
Not sure, the mic fluctuates in level sometimes for some reason.
@@ItzaRobthat’s weird
i was the 620th like!
Can you do if Aron fector gave up the rights to the rock a fire exploastion show biz pizza what if video if he gave the rights to them cause dino nugget extra ranch was terminated gone with all his videos its 2024 and thares no new video 📹
and then covid came and killed everything the end
Is this reall
No, just a fictional timeline video.
Not trying to be mean but is 0:05-0:18 is satire
No, I'm genuinely shocked by it. I'd uploaded that Pineville 3 Stage video to archive the stage for when it eventually got removed (it may not get removed though). I didn't think a bunch of people would actually wanna see this stuff and keep coming back so consistently to my videos, especially the 272 who decided they wanted to keep up with my content.
@@ItzaRob never back down never what?
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS A bit confused what you're saying here.
im sorry for the late response its a meme that somebody says "never back down never what?" and the other person says "never give up" @@ItzaRob
@@William_Afton_AFTONROBOTICS Oh I see.
Hay rob do one well a youtuber that was taken down names dinosour chicken nuggets with extra ranch did in 2 parts on june 2 2021 that it is and. Was taken off the youtube search bar but you can do it still what if Aaron fector gave up the rights of the rock a fire exploastion to showbiz pizza 🍕 from the design mascot costume other characters up to 2012 and how chuck e cheese will be affected or purchased in a merge still maybe considere please from klj video prodcuctions former plush fnaf and beanie boo uploader and youtuber of a dead channel thank you