Great content bro, it's good to see someone has the same train if thought that I do. I always could see Crown Zenith was a deep set and usually that's the biggest factor in sets going crazy. Crown Zenith boxes are still being released, there is a Lugia collection crown Zenith box being released in a week or so which will be the last crown Zenith product on the market giving it an 8 month stretch of different product releases. With the long release date and the last of sword and shield and yellow borders I have a feeling there won't be any reprints. It's like Pokemon gave us ample opportunity and when it's gone that will be it. It will be the crown jewel of a golden era. 👍💯🔥
Loving the microphone quality man hahaha i remember commenting that you really needed one a few months ago and i see you got the Yeti i recommended! Big ups, great speculative breakdown as always 💪🏼
ya, stocked up on morpeko vunion boxes, figure collection boxes, and etbs a few months ago. i think it has a fair chance to pop up in some sales before the end of the year if you wan those 20/40/45 price points
The morpekos were already under $20 with the recent gamestop buy one get one deal. I picked up a few orders of those and the pikachu set as well. But i don't see the best prices for the premium collection and etbs until later this year like you said.
Just recently bought 3 of the sealed pin collection blister pack cases of 12. CZ is a no brainer and its the closest thing to a bb with 36 packs sealed total
Grand Gallery is one of the best gallery’s ever made the artwork is supreme & it includes a lot of the Pokémon from kanto-johto which hits home for a lot of people. The eeveelutions are beautiful the gold cards imo are the best ones to date .. love crown zenith
I'm so gutted about how Pokemon Go turned out. I remember when trying to get it all on pre order for my son birthday and it was so hard to find sold out everywhere. One company even had to refund multiple people money back and give us a discount for our next order for taking our money and not being able to fulfill all their pre orders.. Then it became so easy to find and we finished the master set. I personally think its a cool little set, the hype with the ditto peel cards my kids loved. I like the radiant big 3 and the alt art Mewtwo and Rainbow one of my fav pokemon.
@@LuisDiaz-mf1em check your local target on restock days my local is currently placing galarian rapidash boxes & orbeetle v boxes for 15.99 it comes with 1 cosmic eclipse 2 evolving skies & 1 vivid voltage keep an eye out !! CatchEmAll!!!
I'm so glad you ended up drawing the closest comparison of CZ as HF, I was thinking the exact same thing 😂 I'd personally hold on CZ if you're buying for the flip but if you're looking for a 2-5 year-old or for singles then I'd agree that the time might be now. I think there will be lots of deals going on with CZ during the holiday period for you Americans in the audience. I'm just hoping us in the U.K. see some deals too haha
totally agree Crown Zenith will most likely do very well in the future, it's basically a reprint set with new arts of some of the most iconic playable cards of the SWSH era.
Pre-order singles are always expensive because of several factors; players want them in their deck right away and/or collectors/investors want to be the first to have them graded. Supply and Demand. Sealed truly gains value in the out years when supply declines over time after they are no longer in reprint radar.
Bought a case of these ETB's for $50 a piece and a stack of those 3pack blisters at a fairly lower cost per pack than the ETB's, I'll still hold for a few more years though of course
I have 4 CZ etbs stashed away safely. 2 SEALED cases of the Pikachu vmax boxes. One set of the pin collection. 2 sets of the 5pack tins. High on this set in general.
I always mention that if shining fates hadn’t been absolutely NUKED in reprinting then I think it would be a different conversation. The set was comparable to HF but just weaker but MAN I could not fathom the size of the printing that happened for SF it is insane. I still see boxes around my local store to this day.
It was the little brother to hidden fates but little bro whored himself out like no other and now has very limited his upside. I am highly leveraged in that set too. Kind of a tragedy.
You remind me of Ernest P. Worrell when you cross your arm and speak like that😅. Those were my childhood movies man I miss him. Also I stacked up on the zacian and zamazenta boxes and the marnie morpeko boxes. Holding them for the future gains!
Ya I thought about it but being so high already I'm not sure if it's a good entry point for someone to buy into at those prices. Great for anyone who got in early and is holding though!!
The pricing for PC ETBs has more to do with the scarcity of the product than the value of the set. If we're lucky PC ETBs get 1 actual replenishment and that's it.
@@JohnDoe-ld8nr sure but I’m just saying to use it as an indicator. Celebrations is also $120 for a PC ETB and a regular celebrations etb is $85. I could see CZ getting to $85 for an ETB very quickly as shelves continue to empty without a restock/reprint.
@@NostalgiaNomicsI think it is the first time they do a huge switch in their printings. We don't know how it works.. i feel like printing on a silver sheet and switching to a yellow sheet would just be more expensive to do. Also I have a strong feeling that when they are printing older sets, they would have to sale at the old MSRP.. All around it seems just more complicated now then it was before S&V to do reprints
Hey Alex, not related to this specific video, but do think I should wait til Black Friday to purchase a case of obsidian flames? I’m wondering if it’ll drop below $600 🤔
I mean I get the timing piece. But essentially crown zenith goes up no matter what as soon as they stop reprinting. So if I’m investing in it on a 5 year timeline, reprints don’t really matter right?
IDK if you saw, but last week Gamestop had buy one get one half off on Pokemon products for pro members. Couldn’t get CZ ETB’s, but loaded up on those Morpeko boxes.
Hands down my favorite pokemon channel on RUclips! You should be alot bigger then you are, always great investment information and thoughts. I always look forward to your videos!
Are people really negative on CZ? Jeez this set is a no brainer. Fun to open, good hit rates, beautiful alternate arts. I'm waiting for Black Friday to hopefully scoop up some collection boxes!
It's so hard to say at the inflated prices. I mean PC ETB at retail on the Pokemon Center was a no brainer but at $100 a box... I dunno which is better now.
Appreciate the response, just subbed and going through your vids!...lots to catch up on Lol. I mostly buy raw to grade, but getting into more sealed, shinning legends/cosmic eclipse & celebrations brought me back into pokemon collecting, love it @@NostalgiaNomics
The etbs seemed really low printed which leads me to believe they will be reprinted. My timeline is black Friday or so. If they aren't though, these will have to skyrocket in price. On the opposite side, i just bought 12 cz zamazenta/zacian premium collection boxes for $45 w/ free shipping on TCGPlayer two days ago. So the etbs with 10 packs are $65 and premium collection with 11 packs are $45ish. I will keep grabbing more at that price if possible. And i agree Alex i don't see this set going to $170 per etb like hidden fates but this set will still crush compared to others in the sword and shield era.
Well… they down to like $40 now… less with deals! I got 3 for like $37, that’s with taxes and shipping included. They must’ve done a reprint or something!
Crown Zenith was my entry point into this space, so I don't really know much of previous sets but I wonder if the Pokemon Center ETB plays into the price point as the comparison you made to Hidden Fates idk if that has a Pokemon center version that could take the increase in price. But great video Alex. Although you can come off a little blunt, I have been watching your videos for a couple months and they are both informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
The PC ETB could have something to do with the lower price point per ETB for sure. Haha I know I can definitely be blunt in the vids but I do appreciate you watching and happy to hear you have been enjoying them!
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Great content bro, it's good to see someone has the same train if thought that I do. I always could see Crown Zenith was a deep set and usually that's the biggest factor in sets going crazy. Crown Zenith boxes are still being released, there is a Lugia collection crown Zenith box being released in a week or so which will be the last crown Zenith product on the market giving it an 8 month stretch of different product releases. With the long release date and the last of sword and shield and yellow borders I have a feeling there won't be any reprints. It's like Pokemon gave us ample opportunity and when it's gone that will be it. It will be the crown jewel of a golden era. 👍💯🔥
Loving the microphone quality man hahaha i remember commenting that you really needed one a few months ago and i see you got the Yeti i recommended! Big ups, great speculative breakdown as always 💪🏼
Thank You! It is nice not having to read those comments every video anymore haha
ya, stocked up on morpeko vunion boxes, figure collection boxes, and etbs a few months ago. i think it has a fair chance to pop up in some sales before the end of the year if you wan those 20/40/45 price points
The morpekos were already under $20 with the recent gamestop buy one get one deal. I picked up a few orders of those and the pikachu set as well. But i don't see the best prices for the premium collection and etbs until later this year like you said.
Just recently bought 3 of the sealed pin collection blister pack cases of 12. CZ is a no brainer and its the closest thing to a bb with 36 packs sealed total
Grand Gallery is one of the best gallery’s ever made the artwork is supreme & it includes a lot of the Pokémon from kanto-johto which hits home for a lot of people. The eeveelutions are beautiful the gold cards imo are the best ones to date .. love crown zenith
I'm so gutted about how Pokemon Go turned out. I remember when trying to get it all on pre order for my son birthday and it was so hard to find sold out everywhere. One company even had to refund multiple people money back and give us a discount for our next order for taking our money and not being able to fulfill all their pre orders.. Then it became so easy to find and we finished the master set. I personally think its a cool little set, the hype with the ditto peel cards my kids loved. I like the radiant big 3 and the alt art Mewtwo and Rainbow one of my fav pokemon.
I'm right there with you. I still ca t believe that set is doing so poorly...
Zenith will go to the moon!
The Mewtwo V Alt Art is undervalued! The artwork is straight from the commercial that got a ton of people back into the hobby!
Crown Zenith, Celebrations, Evolving Skies. Lock em up!!
Exactly, I already started with those 3 sets.
Evolving skies it’s in own beast & it’s not a specialty set but yeah it’s locked up already as the best set in sword & shield era
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I’m trying to obtain as much as I can from evolving skies right now. Mainly blisters and booster boxes.
@@LuisDiaz-mf1em check your local target on restock days my local is currently placing galarian rapidash boxes & orbeetle v boxes for 15.99 it comes with 1 cosmic eclipse 2 evolving skies & 1 vivid voltage keep an eye out !! CatchEmAll!!!
@@LuisDiaz-mf1em what's your take on the regular and PC ETB's?
I'm so glad you ended up drawing the closest comparison of CZ as HF, I was thinking the exact same thing 😂 I'd personally hold on CZ if you're buying for the flip but if you're looking for a 2-5 year-old or for singles then I'd agree that the time might be now. I think there will be lots of deals going on with CZ during the holiday period for you Americans in the audience. I'm just hoping us in the U.K. see some deals too haha
totally agree Crown Zenith will most likely do very well in the future, it's basically a reprint set with new arts of some of the most iconic playable cards of the SWSH era.
Pre-order singles are always expensive because of several factors; players want them in their deck right away and/or collectors/investors want to be the first to have them graded. Supply and Demand. Sealed truly gains value in the out years when supply declines over time after they are no longer in reprint radar.
The Zacian/Zamazenta boxes seem like such a better buy right now, as opposed to the ETB. Many vendors have them in the $45-50 threshold.
Ya for sure. I was just comparing ETBs because every set has one so it made for better comparison.
Bought a case of these ETB's for $50 a piece and a stack of those 3pack blisters at a fairly lower cost per pack than the ETB's, I'll still hold for a few more years though of course
I have 4 CZ etbs stashed away safely. 2 SEALED cases of the Pikachu vmax boxes. One set of the pin collection. 2 sets of the 5pack tins. High on this set in general.
Geeze. Ya I'd sat so. That's a stash there!
@@NostalgiaNomics thanks! I try to be very selective when I buy sealed product.
Hence why I bought a few cases of CZ ETBs and packs galore.
I always mention that if shining fates hadn’t been absolutely NUKED in reprinting then I think it would be a different conversation. The set was comparable to HF but just weaker but MAN I could not fathom the size of the printing that happened for SF it is insane. I still see boxes around my local store to this day.
It was the little brother to hidden fates but little bro whored himself out like no other and now has very limited his upside. I am highly leveraged in that set too. Kind of a tragedy.
@@EL-em3mngive it time. It's a fun set so there is still long term potential even for SF. Just look at Evo it was printed to absolute oblivion also.
You remind me of Ernest P. Worrell when you cross your arm and speak like that😅. Those were my childhood movies man I miss him.
Also I stacked up on the zacian and zamazenta boxes and the marnie morpeko boxes. Holding them for the future gains!
Haha that's hilarious. Glad i can entertain! Ya i know those boxes were going for some good prices pretty recently.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the PC ETB price for CZ. It’s double MSRP if that’s any indication of the trajectory of the set..
Ya I thought about it but being so high already I'm not sure if it's a good entry point for someone to buy into at those prices. Great for anyone who got in early and is holding though!!
The pricing for PC ETBs has more to do with the scarcity of the product than the value of the set. If we're lucky PC ETBs get 1 actual replenishment and that's it.
@@JohnDoe-ld8nr sure but I’m just saying to use it as an indicator. Celebrations is also $120 for a PC ETB and a regular celebrations etb is $85. I could see CZ getting to $85 for an ETB very quickly as shelves continue to empty without a restock/reprint.
Any new thoughts on CZ after the reprint and price drops? I have an opportunity to buy a master set for around 500 what do you think?
Looking at data 6-7 months after release is always the time to buy on singles and sealed
with the new silver border of Scarlet and Violet, do you think it can affects the reprint of Sword and Shield sets?
Ya. It's possible CZ may not get any...
@@NostalgiaNomicsI think it is the first time they do a huge switch in their printings. We don't know how it works.. i feel like printing on a silver sheet and switching to a yellow sheet would just be more expensive to do. Also I have a strong feeling that when they are printing older sets, they would have to sale at the old MSRP..
All around it seems just more complicated now then it was before S&V to do reprints
@@thexabe3 brilliant point, makes tons of sense
CZ etbs are getting a reprint distros have them up for PO.
Yes... I heard after this video was made... I did mention there could be reprints multiple times lol
we like Crown Zenith 📈💫
Hey Alex, not related to this specific video, but do think I should wait til Black Friday to purchase a case of obsidian flames? I’m wondering if it’ll drop below $600 🤔
I dunno about Black Friday but I am also waiting on Obsidian Flames to drop in the $500s a case.
@@NostalgiaNomics you doubt it will during Black Friday?
I mean I get the timing piece. But essentially crown zenith goes up no matter what as soon as they stop reprinting. So if I’m investing in it on a 5 year timeline, reprints don’t really matter right?
Exactly!
I just finished the master set for CZ. Now I wait...give it 10 years and it might be worth a pretty penny.
Wow! That's an awesome set to have. Congrats!
IDK if you saw, but last week Gamestop had buy one get one half off on Pokemon products for pro members. Couldn’t get CZ ETB’s, but loaded up on those Morpeko boxes.
Hands down my favorite pokemon channel on RUclips! You should be alot bigger then you are, always great investment information and thoughts. I always look forward to your videos!
Really Appreciate that! Glad to hear you have been enjoying the vids!!
Are people really negative on CZ? Jeez this set is a no brainer. Fun to open, good hit rates, beautiful alternate arts. I'm waiting for Black Friday to hopefully scoop up some collection boxes!
Etbs have just been confirmed for a reprint just in time for black Friday deals!!! Definitely grabbing a case or two if the deals are good
Where did you hear that?
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thoughts on the pokemon center exclusive etb vs the regular etb for Crown Zenith?
It's so hard to say at the inflated prices. I mean PC ETB at retail on the Pokemon Center was a no brainer but at $100 a box... I dunno which is better now.
Appreciate the response, just subbed and going through your vids!...lots to catch up on Lol. I mostly buy raw to grade, but getting into more sealed, shinning legends/cosmic eclipse & celebrations brought me back into pokemon collecting, love it @@NostalgiaNomics
@@phantomxmods3095 Thanks, I really appreciate that. You can't go wrong with any of those sets. Definitely good places to start!!
The etbs seemed really low printed which leads me to believe they will be reprinted. My timeline is black Friday or so. If they aren't though, these will have to skyrocket in price.
On the opposite side, i just bought 12 cz zamazenta/zacian premium collection boxes for $45 w/ free shipping on TCGPlayer two days ago. So the etbs with 10 packs are $65 and premium collection with 11 packs are $45ish. I will keep grabbing more at that price if possible.
And i agree Alex i don't see this set going to $170 per etb like hidden fates but this set will still crush compared to others in the sword and shield era.
I scooped up a premium collection case for about the same price. I don’t see those going any lower.
Bruh…. Are you some kind of wizard? Reprinted for Black Friday and prices for etb and singles have TANKED from this video…. ;) sub $40 etb!
I’m loaded with GG singles. Can’t wait till most of em are over 20 bucks a card. Knowing o got them dirt cheap
What about zaccian or zamazenta boxes theyre slightly cheaper with 11 packs
Ya for sure. I was just focusing on the ETB comparison is this one. Definitely other opportunities out there in this set.
Damnn it's gonna cost sooo much with shipping and costums to Norway 😔😔 How many card packs are in a box?
Ah I'm sorry to hear that. There are 10 packs per etb...
is shinning fate a good long term investment while it is as low as its is?
Impossible to tell at this point... I think the downside risk is very low but don't know about the upside.
Even tho Pokémon go sucks, it got a lot of new collectors into the hobby
CZ is my favorite set of SWSH. I’m a buyer. 💰
Well damn. If you're a buyer I may have to buy more!
PC ETB price seems a little out of control. I’m getting lots of the premium collections
It’s funny I literally just pulled the gold giritina last night! Good to know!
Awesome hit!
Well… they down to like $40 now… less with deals! I got 3 for like $37, that’s with taxes and shipping included. They must’ve done a reprint or something!
Ya they did a massive reprint!
Crown Zenith was my entry point into this space, so I don't really know much of previous sets but I wonder if the Pokemon Center ETB plays into the price point as the comparison you made to Hidden Fates idk if that has a Pokemon center version that could take the increase in price. But great video Alex. Although you can come off a little blunt, I have been watching your videos for a couple months and they are both informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
The PC ETB could have something to do with the lower price point per ETB for sure.
Haha I know I can definitely be blunt in the vids but I do appreciate you watching and happy to hear you have been enjoying them!
I believe in Pokémon go!
i think you are spot on with this take
Let me get 1 more Crown Zenith video before I list my Pokémon center ETB’s
Yes sir Mr. PAPER HANDS. I mean Walrus. Sorry.
I don't see a reprint. Yellow borders
That could be a factor!
Good video, can you show a video for Best Buys under 150$ please looking to buy next friday
Ya I can try to work a video like that in. For sure!
@@NostalgiaNomics sounds good just landed on your channel few days ago been loving your videos
@fisher9292 Awesome to hear. Glad you found the channel. Thanks for stickin around!
Your spot on .you must have a crystal ball as your predictions tend to hit the bullseye
Holding CZ but can we just have a minute of silence for SF ETBs 😩😭 SF will have it's day soon 🤞
Japanese is confirmed getting reprint so I think English will too
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I'm all in!!!
Only people that say Crown Zenith is gonna fly arr those who heavily invested in it. Lol.
I dunno... I think I was pretty realistic with it. I'm invested in it but I wouldn't say heavily. Definitely not my largest SWSH position or anything.
We talked a few months ago on instagram about Crown Zenith.
Yes sir!