Then again, pros do not believe in static def. Terran players, of course, build Planetary win-fortresses cuz they do not know how to play. And zergs spamming spores are just admitting they are unable to play the lategame. And protoss only build cannons when cheesing.
i feel like the worse play that game was him giving up the position that he had... dude was contained with no money and just units that could have been killed off till there was nothing left even losing 78 workers is meaningless when the other dudes workers have nothing to mine
@@GaiaBel 3 cannons, would have done the job, cause of the damage output, phoenixes have like 200hp with full shields, that kinda 6-9 shots depends on armor and shield upgrades
what is going on with your control groups in the first game? Why does control group 2 alternate having a probe in it every couple seconds? Like at 4:27
sry to say but the correct call in the 3rd game is just to put in every base 4 cannons, that the pheonixes loses everytime 1 or 2 units they wanna go for probes thats whould have been the correct call and the addition of 2-3 immortal to break that bunker of him, and btw. 1 Corner base would also would have done the job, just 3-4 cannons near mineral line drogo wouldnt have stand a chance, trust me, thats what the most problme is for most people when they are trying to attack several bases and hold there home. Static defenses.
Ok maybe more than one cannon in your gold bases? Or blink into his main? Or anything but walking up a ramp with a crapton of batteries behind it all the time?
The simple answer is yes. If you have Guardian Shield and 1 more armor upgrade than they have dmg upgrades, then the Phoenixes will deal just 2 dmg (-60%) vs Voidrays and just 1 dmg (-80%!) vs Stalkers, since Stalkers start with an extra armor. If your opponent's units deal 5-6 dmg, it is usually better to go for armor. However, dmg upgrades are more important if you outrange them, have superior micro, or if getting a dmg upgrade will allow you to 2 or 3-hit their units (like when Zealots have 1 dmg upgrade more than Zerglings have armor, then they can 2-hit them instead of 3-hitting them).
34:23 The opponent just needs to kills 2 pylons to un-power 90% of the 100 batteries and cannons but decides to go for one batterie and cannon after the other, why?
More cannons on bases - ez win. Jokes aside, if you build 3 cannon on each base he needs a lot more phoenixes to move outside of his base, that mean less to defend. Also you need start upgrade much sooner.
I don't understand how you can lose with 3 bases, 2 of which was gold, against 1 base. Wouldn't a few cannons at each gold keep him away? Also Tempest the Protoss' siege unit, it should be handy but of that I'm not so sure.
It was 3 bases to 2 then 2 bases to 1 after the mains mined out. Gold mines faster but has less patches. Phoenixes killed tons and tons of probes so a lot of income was spent rebuilding them. I agree that he should've had more cannons at his third.
It's because he couldn't really defend his bases against harassment. This is really the reason why you practically never see people building expansions in unusual locations at the pro level - if your bases are spread out across the map it's very hard to defend all of them. If you send your army to one of them, they'll just attack somewhere else.
It is almost certain that you lost due to the lack of static protection ... The price you paid was the loss of revenue and of course the loss Attacking like Zerg with Protoss has some special flaws ;)
@@Wirmish I've never understood why silver rank people are obsessed with loads of cannons everywhere as Protoss it's only a low rank Protoss thing to do. Terran and Zerg don't built loads of spore crawler's or turrets. Main reason people diamond- grandmasters build 1 cannon per a base isn't for the defence it's for the detection
@@Dimorac 6 is too much, but 2 or 3 would have been game-winning. Easy to say in hindsight, because grandmaster games almost never result in Protoss having active bases from literally top-to-bottom with certain knowledge a flock of uncatchable phoenixes is going to rotate through and gut them all.
I think he could have saved the cannon rush. If he built a pylon to block off surface area for his cannon only 1-3 lings would have been able to hit it.
I initially wanted to watch this series to see how to play against it but the captain just wins :/ could you give us some insight in how to play against the cheese you're playing once in a while? May the winds change, Captain o7
sorry, but in the last game, with your opponent having 1000 phoenixes, what;s the point of having 1 cannon per base? if you had put like 3 each base, each attack from him would have been too costly. Just sit close to your batteries and let him starve while you expand like a maniac! :)
yes more clickbait putting the actual series in the title should be illegal just make it all unclear clickbait titles to maximize views sick sick sick im in love
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"I'm just pretending like everything is alright." Me too, man. Me too.
Watched this game live from Drogos stream.. Even though he won, you absolutely broke the man's spirit.
You can't drop a line like that without giving us a link, man. Don't leave us hanging!
@@ericjonsson second that
yaaaaaaas
No link? 🥺
Where's the link, man
No GG counter? sadge
Sadge is right
Click here: 23:43 to experience confidence into regret in 10 seconds.
Last game: Why only 1 cannon per base?
Cost of 78 workers vs 1 cannon?
He's a Grandmaster, unable to use Silver techniques, even when they're the right thing to do.
First thing I thought as well
Then again, pros do not believe in static def. Terran players, of course, build Planetary win-fortresses cuz they do not know how to play. And zergs spamming spores are just admitting they are unable to play the lategame. And protoss only build cannons when cheesing.
i feel like the worse play that game was him giving up the position that he had... dude was contained with no money and just units that could have been killed off till there was nothing left even losing 78 workers is meaningless when the other dudes workers have nothing to mine
@@alexpyattaev balance whining on the IODIS channel is funny
When containing like the last game get +1 shields, makes your units really last and even protects the batteries/cannons.
23:45 my favorite part
23:53 Kevin's most funny face ever "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim"
A second cannon near the mineral line might help vs phoenix as one often doesn't kill any.
Yep, I actually think it would be game changing... The way he did it the opponent just didn't lose any phoenixes while harassing
@@GaiaBel 3 cannons, would have done the job, cause of the damage output, phoenixes have like 200hp with full shields, that kinda 6-9 shots depends on armor and shield upgrades
You're a content MACHINE!
No GG counter, so no data nerd data.
what is going on with your control groups in the first game? Why does control group 2 alternate having a probe in it every couple seconds? Like at 4:27
That probe was sent into the Assimilator, it disappears from the control group when it enters it and shows up again when it leaves the Assimilator.
@@TheFinrodInglorion ohhhhhhhhhh thank you I was so confused lmao
"you may not like it but this is how peak pvp looks like" NaNiWa, in PtitDrogo's Twitch stream's comments right when this game ended lmfao
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sry to say but the correct call in the 3rd game is just to put in every base 4 cannons, that the pheonixes loses everytime 1 or 2 units they wanna go for probes thats whould have been the correct call and the addition of 2-3 immortal to break that bunker of him, and btw. 1 Corner base would also would have done the job, just 3-4 cannons near mineral line drogo wouldnt have stand a chance, trust me, thats what the most problme is for most people when they are trying to attack several bases and hold there home.
Static defenses.
Cannons cant do anything vs mass phoenix. Waste of money.
Harstem really took defeat from the jaws of victory on that last one
''I'm sorry that anyone needs to watch this''
**Goes off and puts it on YT.**
This is what I want to see on Valentines day haha
I think you forgot to add the cheesiest man alive title. Its also not listed in the playlist for me x)
Dude, you're my new favorite SCII streamer.
16:25, why was it a slow warp in? Was next to a gateway
The pylon has to be closer to the gate
The amount of misplays in game 3 hurt my soul.
Great video, I don't understand why you took his gold first and btw. The team liquid logo is still in your outro.
Why not Tempest in the battery contain game? Couldn't you just sit on the shield batteries basically and gun down his natural?
Ok maybe more than one cannon in your gold bases? Or blink into his main? Or anything but walking up a ramp with a crapton of batteries behind it all the time?
Someone should submit that last game to IIIODIS but change Harstem's name on the replay and see if Harstem roasts himself...
Isn't +1 air armor better vs phoenixes?
The simple answer is yes. If you have Guardian Shield and 1 more armor upgrade than they have dmg upgrades, then the Phoenixes will deal just 2 dmg (-60%) vs Voidrays and just 1 dmg (-80%!) vs Stalkers, since Stalkers start with an extra armor. If your opponent's units deal 5-6 dmg, it is usually better to go for armor. However, dmg upgrades are more important if you outrange them, have superior micro, or if getting a dmg upgrade will allow you to 2 or 3-hit their units (like when Zealots have 1 dmg upgrade more than Zerglings have armor, then they can 2-hit them instead of 3-hitting them).
0:46 'This is the way'
19:15 - Siege of the Helm's deep
Really enjoying your vids man.
The sadistic part of me loves learning every potential cannon rush in the game >:)
I love great force field micro lol
34:23 The opponent just needs to kills 2 pylons to un-power 90% of the 100 batteries and cannons but decides to go for one batterie and cannon after the other, why?
Don't sweat that last game even if it was "bad" with some compounding mistakes honestly it kinda looks like one of those games that help you grow
More cannons on bases - ez win. Jokes aside, if you build 3 cannon on each base he needs a lot more phoenixes to move outside of his base, that mean less to defend. Also you need start upgrade much sooner.
Harstem didn't make his Eye click this time 😞
For the battery contain, should you have built 3 cannons at each mineral line to defend against phoenix?
great stuff as always capt
lets go! another awesome video, g\keep up the great work!
I don't understand how you can lose with 3 bases, 2 of which was gold, against 1 base. Wouldn't a few cannons at each gold keep him away? Also Tempest the Protoss' siege unit, it should be handy but of that I'm not so sure.
It was 3 bases to 2 then 2 bases to 1 after the mains mined out. Gold mines faster but has less patches. Phoenixes killed tons and tons of probes so a lot of income was spent rebuilding them. I agree that he should've had more cannons at his third.
It's because he couldn't really defend his bases against harassment. This is really the reason why you practically never see people building expansions in unusual locations at the pro level - if your bases are spread out across the map it's very hard to defend all of them. If you send your army to one of them, they'll just attack somewhere else.
3rd Game ^^ lol... Containing is very interesting to watch and cheer with... Think with some Tempest + some cannons in bases = win
For the last game i think couple of archons for base would have changed the outcome
Where did these okra seeds come from
Cannnnnons!! Keep up the cheese my man #1 content ty for the uploads
I watched so many protos game but I don't understand 1 thing - why does nobody build more than one robo, to make units twice as fast
i mean if i am cannon rushing i dont have the mineral production for 2 robo because its 275 minerals for one
It happens sometimes, but in high level games they're on top of their production so they dont need the additional robo.
We Kick Butt Everyday, Yeah
why do pros bind gates manually and don't use the default key binded to them?
I'm not a pro but I believe they use f3 for a camera hotkey
@@veldin4108 as you can see on top bar of minimap, it's bind on W
Harstem told that he can count the amount of gates he has this way
Curious why at 13:00 you chose to attack the hatchery instead of the eggs to prevent the zerglings from spawning.
23:50 Greedy
It is almost certain that you lost due to the lack of static protection ...
The price you paid was the loss of revenue and of course the loss
Attacking like Zerg with Protoss has some special flaws ;)
Yes. He should have build 6 cannons par base.
@@Wirmish I've never understood why silver rank people are obsessed with loads of cannons everywhere as Protoss it's only a low rank Protoss thing to do. Terran and Zerg don't built loads of spore crawler's or turrets. Main reason people diamond- grandmasters build 1 cannon per a base isn't for the defence it's for the detection
@@Dimorac 6 is too much, but 2 or 3 would have been game-winning. Easy to say in hindsight, because grandmaster games almost never result in Protoss having active bases from literally top-to-bottom with certain knowledge a flock of uncatchable phoenixes is going to rotate through and gut them all.
what do you think about getting a mothership stationary over the batteries so you can move cloaked into the base?
the enemy had cannons
It looks like too many batteries, not enough canons, expansions, and units..
Is there a reason why you only built one canon per base
I think he could have saved the cannon rush. If he built a pylon to block off surface area for his cannon only 1-3 lings would have been able to hit it.
BGMWSS: aggressive nexus super battery
HAS is the cheesiest man alive!
CANNONS!!!! DISRUPTORS!!! DUDE!!! ^^
I'm by no means a pro... but after losing like 20 probes... wouldn't a couple cannons be better than trying to chase phoenixes with stalkers
The government should just battery contain people who don't want to stay at home during lockdown
More cannon?
I initially wanted to watch this series to see how to play against it but the captain just wins :/ could you give us some insight in how to play against the cheese you're playing once in a while? May the winds change, Captain o7
It varies per video. I feel like I've seen a bunch of this series where he just loses every match in the video.
watchin this in school cuz I am a rebel B)
Good game.
Yes
That last game was so cringe :D I was like "Build cannons at the mineral lines!!!!". I hate fenix plays...
How did your last opponent have so much resources? You had 2 gold, your main and you were running very low on all of them!...
So GG counter? D:
Ur videos are so sick always...
fun!!
Aww, no GG counter?
sorry, but in the last game, with your opponent having 1000 phoenixes, what;s the point of having 1 cannon per base? if you had put like 3 each base, each attack from him would have been too costly. Just sit close to your batteries and let him starve while you expand like a maniac! :)
100th comment. Worth all these characters.
a pro that doesn't know phx>VR?
no gg counter? :(
i am first!
Well done here is a 🍪.
Frick so close.
Man batteries kinda ruin the game. I mean is this really fun gameplay ?
yes, protoss are underpower
Yes, because I’m watching it and not playing against it.
@@winterine4827 I play the game
yes more clickbait putting the actual series in the title should be illegal just make it all unclear clickbait titles to maximize views sick sick sick im in love