Indeed, Mr Sam Langa you're explaining spiritual guiders very well... only if Africans never turned back to their spiritual guiders, only if a black person never betrayed its own Africa would be great.😢
Siyabonga kakhulu 👏👏 and what I see to this damage people are full of anger whenever you tried to ask something related to this Vangeli which they teach others,I find much more anger than answer endup fighting.that tells ukuthi Nabi bayazibona badukile they trapped.instared of finding the way out they call more people to come to their space by saying Kuaphileka kuJesu
You can't liberate Africans politically without their Spirituality. Great Episode indeed I Repeat👏, thanks To the host and our guest for such great wisdom.
Wow!! Powerful point there, indeed Spiritual Kings did exist in Africa. It is embarrassing for a king to be anointed by a pastor or a bishop, who are their to anoint a Traditional King? Only Spiritual Kings were allowed to Anoint Traditional kings.
😂😂😂😂 ignorance is blis can I ask u who is the powerful king in the world currently??? Is Queen of kings Queen Elizabeth she managed to colonized 65 countries Today English it's the universal language and the smartest And she got that power from Anglican church through the bishop who anointed her through the name Of Jesus Christ And ask ourselves why our kings wear royal attire of Britain but this traditional healers want to be above their king's 🎉
I think the number one virtue a man can have is kindness, and be kind enough to communicate his thoughts frankly. Here are my thoughts - though I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussion, these are my pain points and need to voice them. 1) African spirituality seems to be monotheistic - uMfihlakalo is one and so let us just knock that one out of the discussion 2) iNkosi kaMoya is an authority at the spiritual realm, acknowledged by those who do through? Is he the one testifying of him being in that position? I ask this as the guest seems to dismiss those using social media platforms as "spreading confusion" thereby not only insinuating their iNkosi kaMoya as the unifier of truth but blatantly saying it 3) The publications with the institutions of the colonizer seem to be one major source of validation for the guests' organization, and iNkosi kaMoya being acknowledged by these institutions also another source of validation. Would you consider this as problematic to the things you claim you are trying to achieve?
Indeed African Spirituality had order and ways to do, African Spirituality is not a Religion instead it's it or are principles of how our Ancestors lived and how they were governed by Spirituality.
There's no such a thing as African spirituality, there is spirituality instant or indigenous spirituality because even Indians, Chinese and Degros from Australia are very good in spiritual guidance so we have spirituality not precisely African spirituality
@kwaxhosa2435 Spirituality is Universal as you state, in Africa we practice African Indigenous spirituality. For example, isangoma falls under African Indigenous Spirituality, you don't find isangoma in Australia or in Chinese, you will only find isangoma in Africa healing people in an African way. So African Indigenous Spirituality did exist. Spirituality is Universal, Chinese have their ways, Indians have their way, Degros have their way, even Africans have their own way. In Africa we say we practice Spirituality in an African Context which is African Indigenous Spirituality.
How do I obtain a copy of the book - An Introduction into African Indigenous Spirituality? I am in the diaspora and have trouble locating a copy. I have found the discussion very enlightening. Thank you.
My question is...What do us diasporans do? We were torn from our culture and bloodlines, then forced to adapt to these savage ways. Please Divine Mother guide us forward. We must drop false/lower gods, open our minds to receive your guidance. UBUNTU❤
Spirituality it's an individual thing forget about this clawns and seek the MOST Hing Yahweh personal and you will see thing's Moses and other prophets saw
@Luji_Son which history proves that,and if it is like the way you explain then Why people still don't believe Again u are agreeing with me cause bible history is the oldest and it Is a record history than Africans cause the book of chronicles has a record of leanege or isithakazelo and number of all people who lived in Israel until Adam and eve the first People But our lineage calls only seven elders and it's the end, we can't even connect how all tribes of Africa are connected 💔
@RisingofAlkebulan correct but not in this age of pisces ♓️ (Christianity) the lawer giver the age choosed Jesus and b4 him age aries chose Moses and they establish the spiritual kingdom of God so this african spiritual leaders ares still following sun and moon(inyanga in practices at the age of pisces The same way The jews the are still stucked with the law of Moses such as animal sacrifice cause they did not understand that each age has its own rule now we are entering age of aquarius(maat) we must be careful and deny his rulership or the Messiah of aquarius choosen to establish systems of maat That is why no matter how hard they can try to supress Christianity they are failing cause God ordained ages to come to pass and each age will accomplish its will
@RisingofAlkebulan nope that's not true the astrological wheel has turned age has changed and the brutal truth is the sun and moon(inyanga)were defeated were captured spiritual and physical And the leopard 🐆 nation's or serpent nation's they didn't fall only in Africa,Babylon mother civilization was fallen 1st then summerians,then greeks then romans then Egyptian the last standing kingdom its Christianity it's head quarters are in spiritual heavenly realm in Holy mountain Zion(zcc) Salem 🙏
I love the Eargle God cause he used the weakest of the serpent 🐍 that divide due to the pride cause everyone want to be worshipped,so the serpent 🐍 people are not one and they don't trust each other cause it's foundation is not Holy
I disagree with thauthau cause is possible to name God in different languages Why the sun and water it is called in different languages but we mean thie same picture
😂😂😂 this spirituality is going nowhere you can't be led by tryaans whom they don't want to be engaged,how can we learn if we all agree on the same thing even if I don't agree with u I must pretend I understand u U cant teach old cows anything
Where were the gods of Africa during colonialism and slavery? My answer would be Africans abandoned their gods and thats how colonialism and slavery was necessitated. We were only colonized when we abandoned our gods for the gods of the colonizers. What could be done to Africans who only read texts like "slaves obey your masters"? If you read such texts and believe it as a word of God what do you expect?
If people can stop trying to be teachers of African Spirituality and allow and acknowledge authorized people as teachers of spirituality Africa would be far better off
Mr ThauThau is appreciated for hosting such a wonderful episode we've learnt a lot
I love that the host gives the guest a chance to talk without interrupting him !!
Syabonga !
Spiritual King of South Africa, B.E Lekganyane ⭐️
I can listern to this everyday . Its so insightful syabonga Mkhulu Tau Tau and uMntwana westhunywa Sam Langa
Thanky you Sam Langa for such powerful explanation of African Spirituality
Wow. the viewers are now back, we love Tau Tau
We Thank you to unpopular opinion for inviting AHV to the podcast
That was a profound discussion.
i truly am so appreciative of this episode. Like many of the conversations on this platform, it spoke directly to me. Kwande!
Indeed, Mr Sam Langa you're explaining spiritual guiders very well... only if Africans never turned back to their spiritual guiders, only if a black person never betrayed its own Africa would be great.😢
Siyabonga kakhulu 👏👏 and what I see to this damage people are full of anger whenever you tried to ask something related to this Vangeli which they teach others,I find much more anger than answer endup fighting.that tells ukuthi Nabi bayazibona badukile they trapped.instared of finding the way out they call more people to come to their space by saying Kuaphileka kuJesu
Wow Am amazed if Mr Sam Can be A frequent guest am certain there more things to be unpacked
Wa are ready and prepared. woooow imfundo enzima entle kanje❤
You can't liberate Africans politically without their Spirituality. Great Episode indeed I Repeat👏, thanks To the host and our guest for such great wisdom.
Indeed Spirituality must lead🙏🏾
African Indigenous Spirituality, was important in our daily lives
Wow!! Powerful point there, indeed Spiritual Kings did exist in Africa. It is embarrassing for a king to be anointed by a pastor or a bishop, who are their to anoint a Traditional King?
Only Spiritual Kings were allowed to Anoint Traditional kings.
😂😂😂😂 ignorance is blis can I ask u who is the powerful king in the world currently???
Is Queen of kings Queen Elizabeth she managed to colonized 65 countries
Today English it's the universal language and the smartest
And she got that power from Anglican church through the bishop who anointed her through the name Of Jesus Christ
And ask ourselves why our kings wear royal attire of Britain but this traditional healers want to be above their king's 🎉
Very Interesting.
I think the number one virtue a man can have is kindness, and be kind enough to communicate his thoughts frankly. Here are my thoughts - though I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussion, these are my pain points and need to voice them.
1) African spirituality seems to be monotheistic - uMfihlakalo is one and so let us just knock that one out of the discussion
2) iNkosi kaMoya is an authority at the spiritual realm, acknowledged by those who do through? Is he the one testifying of him being in that position? I ask this as the guest seems to dismiss those using social media platforms as "spreading confusion" thereby not only insinuating their iNkosi kaMoya as the unifier of truth but blatantly saying it
3) The publications with the institutions of the colonizer seem to be one major source of validation for the guests' organization, and iNkosi kaMoya being acknowledged by these institutions also another source of validation. Would you consider this as problematic to the things you claim you are trying to achieve?
Rea leboha batho ba baholo👌
Indeed African Spirituality had order and ways to do, African Spirituality is not a Religion instead it's it or are principles of how our Ancestors lived and how they were governed by Spirituality.
There's no such a thing as African spirituality, there is spirituality instant or indigenous spirituality because even Indians, Chinese and Degros from Australia are very good in spiritual guidance so we have spirituality not precisely African spirituality
@kwaxhosa2435 Spirituality is Universal as you state, in Africa we practice African Indigenous spirituality.
For example, isangoma falls under African Indigenous Spirituality, you don't find isangoma in Australia or in Chinese, you will only find isangoma in Africa healing people in an African way. So African Indigenous Spirituality did exist.
Spirituality is Universal, Chinese have their ways, Indians have their way, Degros have their way, even Africans have their own way. In Africa we say we practice Spirituality in an African Context which is African Indigenous Spirituality.
@@RisingofAlkebulanThe word Africa is a colonial word.
1st one here🎉
How do I obtain a copy of the book - An Introduction into African Indigenous Spirituality? I am in the diaspora and have trouble locating a copy. I have found the discussion very enlightening. Thank you.
Takealot
@@samuellanga7341 What is Takealot?
Spiritual guiders were here in Africa long before religions.
My question is...What do us diasporans do? We were torn from our culture and bloodlines, then forced to adapt to these savage ways. Please Divine Mother guide us forward. We must drop false/lower gods, open our minds to receive your guidance. UBUNTU❤
Spirituality it's an individual thing forget about this clawns and seek the MOST Hing Yahweh personal and you will see thing's Moses and other prophets saw
@@ThapeloMaxwellMabuza 😩😩😩lapho history proves ukuthi Spirituality had guiders
@Luji_Son which history proves that,and if it is like the way you explain then Why people still don't believe
Again u are agreeing with me cause bible history is the oldest and it Is a record history than Africans cause the book of chronicles has a record of leanege or isithakazelo and number of all people who lived in Israel until Adam and eve the first People
But our lineage calls only seven elders and it's the end, we can't even connect how all tribes of Africa are connected 💔
Spiritual guiders are essential in Africa, it is therefore important to acknowledge them and respect them per- their position.
No they are not cause what is their role or purpose if one may ask ???
@ThapeloMaxwellMabuza Their role were to guide the Nation spiritually.
@ThapeloMaxwellMabuza today Africa is in chaos because Africans have lost their spiritual Identity, only the spiritual guiders guide the nation.
@RisingofAlkebulan correct but not in this age of pisces ♓️ (Christianity) the lawer giver the age choosed Jesus and b4 him age aries chose Moses and they establish the spiritual kingdom of God so this african spiritual leaders ares still following sun and moon(inyanga in practices at the age of pisces
The same way The jews the are still stucked with the law of Moses such as animal sacrifice cause they did not understand that each age has its own rule now we are entering age of aquarius(maat) we must be careful and deny his rulership or the Messiah of aquarius choosen to establish systems of maat
That is why no matter how hard they can try to supress Christianity they are failing cause God ordained ages to come to pass and each age will accomplish its will
@RisingofAlkebulan nope that's not true the astrological wheel has turned age has changed and the brutal truth is the sun and moon(inyanga)were defeated were captured spiritual and physical
And the leopard 🐆 nation's or serpent nation's they didn't fall only in Africa,Babylon mother civilization was fallen 1st then summerians,then greeks then romans then Egyptian the last standing kingdom its Christianity it's head quarters are in spiritual heavenly realm in Holy mountain Zion(zcc) Salem 🙏
Indeed Religion damaged us in a way that today a black person does not know a spiritual guider.
Nah we don't cause they are selling us zulu gods laaa
I love the Eargle God cause he used the weakest of the serpent 🐍 that divide due to the pride cause everyone want to be worshipped,so the serpent 🐍 people are not one and they don't trust each other cause it's foundation is not Holy
Oneness
Word is bond, we give thanks 🍃🧩🥋🔦
Where amapondo come from AmaRhudulu and others
I disagree with thauthau cause is possible to name God in different languages Why the sun and water it is called in different languages but we mean thie same picture
Syaphila
I want Abba views on this honestly
Well if yuh really follow him yuh would know because there's no concept here he hasn't talked about
@@mutendamasebe8857so true
😂😂😂 this spirituality is going nowhere you can't be led by tryaans whom they don't want to be engaged,how can we learn if we all agree on the same thing even if I don't agree with u I must pretend I understand u
U cant teach old cows anything
Where were the gods of Africa during colonialism and slavery?
My answer would be Africans abandoned their gods and thats how colonialism and slavery was necessitated.
We were only colonized when we abandoned our gods for the gods of the colonizers.
What could be done to Africans who only read texts like "slaves obey your masters"?
If you read such texts and believe it as a word of God what do you expect?
If people can stop trying to be teachers of African Spirituality and allow and acknowledge authorized people as teachers of spirituality Africa would be far better off
The problem with this discussion is you talk alone..You talk about africans as 1 whole origin .Non of you has a grasp for language origin.
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