I just ordered this lead holder the other day, can't wait to use it! I've never used a lead holder, but i've found i like a nice big tip to draw with, so this should be a nice upgrade. It was fairly cheap for an all metal pencil where i am, about 14USD. I find the price excellent, a Rotring 300 2mm lead holder is about the same price and it is all plastic bodied. I'm surprised the 925 has no lead sharpener, they are usually hidden inside of the end cap. My bet is that it has the same exact body as the pencil variants, like the 0.7mm. So it was like a cost savings measure to just use the same body. A cheap little lead sharpener can be found for a $1 or $2 though. I also got the mars lumograph 2B lead, too bad it isn't very dark. I love the pentel ain stein 2B, it is smooth and soft, providing great contrast! However i was unable to find it in 2mm, i believe it is very soft and too prone to breakage. Even in pencils like a kurutoga or delguard i get breakage.
I wish I could be as excided, for anything in life, as you were for the pencil/lead holder. Btw, I would recommend 4B or 6B for some really nice contrasts.
Please save me from Hell - How on earth do I sharpen the leads with this pencil holder? The Staedtler Mars lead pointer tub is worthless, doesn't work at all and the 'doodad' that comes with the refills also seems to do absolutely nothing. Any advice will be much appreciated.
@@ismarin I was wrong about the doodad. It's a push button lead indicator. If you got another clutch pencil it more than likely has a pointer instead of an eraser otherwise you'll have to buy a pointer. I use a Mitsubishi Pencil Pocket Sharpener DSP6001P it works on the 2mm lead holder. The Mars tub is a great sharpener but the downside is it doesn't work on holders with nose cones bigger than Mars technicos like sadly the 925.
regarding Staedtler 2.0mm lead hardness, I've noticed the same issue - their leads seem to be a grade or two harder than the box indicates. I got a box of Staedtler 2H the other day, they behave more like a 4H and also leave a slight waxy coating that makes it difficult to blend. Won't buy their leads again, but I love their leadholders
As another commenter already noted: The European made leads ( Staedtler is German) seems to be a quite bit lighter than the Japanese made ones. It's confusing.
I'm not sure if there's a difference in country-of-origin regarding product line, but their Mars Carbon lead (at least for the Micro) are "Carbon" rather than traditional graphite, which is a little harder to break and tends to be less glossy than traditional graphite mix. Perhaps that contributes to the difference in perceived lightness. Idk. That thing in the lead refill is probably another sharpener.
I also like this lead holder except for the fact that it doesn't fit into my lead pointer, I had to modify my lead pointer by drilling the hole larger.
About what you said about smudging. Most artsist I know, put a piece of paper under their hand. to avoid smudging, however I also use slippery naylon pieces as you aslo said you do, for the same reason. It's weird that most use paper, because they know, that paper can easily smudge graphite! How on earth, they don't see that, since they use paper (Tortilions, paper stumps etc) to do just that! ?!! PS Faber Castell TK 4600 clipless, or TK 9400, are my favorite lead holders for drawing. Please,have you tried these and if yes, do you still like the Staedtler 925 more? Thanks in advance
Sorry I haven't tried the Faber Castell lead holders. I bought the Staedtler 925 because I believed METAL = GOOD. This ended up being a rather silly assumption . After trying out many different kinds of pens/pencils I've personally found that you need to have very good knurling on a metal pen to match the grip of basic smooth plastic (Or maybe my fingers are weird). The grip on the Staedtler 925 is better than smooth plastic, but it's only found on the very end, like they only expected you to write with it or something. Also the people using paper as a smudge protector must take a lot of time making sure that it's not smudging lol.
@@Ashsibe About the 2mm leads, I found that I don't like the Staedter 2B, however the Staedtler 4B is a different story! I really like that 4B!! As for 2B, Faber Castell 2mm works better for me. Also, I guess you won't like the plastic body of the Faber Castell TK 9400 or 4600, however, most artists agree, that the 9400, is the best lead holder for drawing. I got the 4600 and I'm really in love with it, especially when I removed the clip! I now on a search, to find my next lead holder. I have a couple of Ko-hi-noor 5.6 in my mind, but I would love, another 2mm to pair it with the Faber Castell! Enjoy drawing sir!!
No. I found out later that it is a plastic color coded end cap for another lead holder. So if you have multiple lead holders going you know what lead shade it is.
Is it worth buying staedtler 925-25 in comparison to 925-35?what about build quality of the pen?any issues problems while using the pen?can we use the pen for writing work?
I think the 925-25 and the 925-35 are the same pencil except in color. The build quality is excellent, some of the best you can find. As a personal preference I would get a 0.5mm variant for writing, but I must warn you that the lead sleeve is still not retractable on the thinner lead models. So if you want to carry it around in a pocket you might stab yourself.
I don't know. But I'd be amazed if it wasn't compatible. Not that you asked for it but here is my personal opinion of all lead pointers: I don't know why they exist. I bought a 2mm lead holder to make thick pencil lines with. I don't know why I would buy a lead pointer when I can buy a really good mechanical pencil for the same price. And make thin lines with that. I don't know maybe I'm missing something... I guess the by-product of graphite powder is cool.
This model only takes pencil lead that is 2mm thick. There are different Staedtler 925 models for different lead thicknesses. For example if you want to use the most common 0.5mm lead size you'll just have a buy a 0.5mm mechanical pencil.
@@mauriciolacruz I like to second guess myself so I just tested out the electrical conductivity of the cap with a multimeter. It's conductive. But it does seem to have a very hard non-conductive coating, like some kind of paint, on it though.
i was actually really disappointed with the rattling of this lead holder, it's quite a big blow to its quality as far as i'm concerned. i was able to mute it quite a bit by stuffing a small rolled up piece of paper in the top tube without it conflicting with the mechanism, and it's much better. still not what i expected tho, especially side by side with a plastic staedtler copycat that doesn't rattle or creak at all. at least it has a nice weight to it. the grip isn't that much of a selling point to me because i tend to exclusively hold lead holders from the back, and i mostly bought it cus the full metal build was appealing to me, but the build quality just isn't there.
I know I'm too late to help, but it's not directly compatible. I'm sure you can make it work with care. If you really need an external, the Japanese Staedtler "oval" or "egg" sharpener will fit the lead itself.
Mine came broken so I'm glad to see I wasn't insane in how the pencil was supposed to work. My cap was not secure and my lead came broken. The cap would not secure at all and if the pencil was upside down it'd fall off along with all the lead. :( But I like your video!
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Dude I love hearing your rambles! It's weirdly relatable hearing someone else go on about mechanical pencils.
I just ordered this lead holder the other day, can't wait to use it! I've never used a lead holder, but i've found i like a nice big tip to draw with, so this should be a nice upgrade. It was fairly cheap for an all metal pencil where i am, about 14USD. I find the price excellent, a Rotring 300 2mm lead holder is about the same price and it is all plastic bodied. I'm surprised the 925 has no lead sharpener, they are usually hidden inside of the end cap. My bet is that it has the same exact body as the pencil variants, like the 0.7mm. So it was like a cost savings measure to just use the same body. A cheap little lead sharpener can be found for a $1 or $2 though. I also got the mars lumograph 2B lead, too bad it isn't very dark. I love the pentel ain stein 2B, it is smooth and soft, providing great contrast! However i was unable to find it in 2mm, i believe it is very soft and too prone to breakage. Even in pencils like a kurutoga or delguard i get breakage.
I wish I could be as excided, for anything in life, as you were for the pencil/lead holder. Btw, I would recommend 4B or 6B for some really nice contrasts.
I think that's some good advice. Ideally I would use more than one shade of graphite as well.
Leads manufactured in Europe and the US tend to be a couple grades lighter than those developed in Asia (like Pentel or Mitsubishi). Great video!
Very interesting thank you
I've noticed this too. I prefer Staedtler leads as they are a lot smoother.
Yes indeed, it's an amazing mechanical pencil! 👍👍 I liked it so much that I purchased the complete set.
I’m going to get one for daily note taking! And yes the initial purchase hurts
3 years late but the doodad that came with the refills is the sharpener.
Please save me from Hell - How on earth do I sharpen the leads with this pencil holder? The Staedtler Mars lead pointer tub is worthless, doesn't work at all and the 'doodad' that comes with the refills also seems to do absolutely nothing.
Any advice will be much appreciated.
@@ismarin I was wrong about the doodad. It's a push button lead indicator.
If you got another clutch pencil it more than likely has a pointer instead of an eraser otherwise you'll have to buy a pointer. I use a Mitsubishi Pencil Pocket Sharpener DSP6001P it works on the 2mm lead holder.
The Mars tub is a great sharpener but the downside is it doesn't work on holders with nose cones bigger than Mars technicos like sadly the 925.
@@bonbonjoe9576 Thanks for the reply and explanation, very much appreciated.
the grip is amazing, wish it was longer because my pencil holding location is located more upper area.
I agree. When holding it on an angle my index finger alone gets to enjoy the grip.
regarding Staedtler 2.0mm lead hardness, I've noticed the same issue - their leads seem to be a grade or two harder than the box indicates. I got a box of Staedtler 2H the other day, they behave more like a 4H and also leave a slight waxy coating that makes it difficult to blend. Won't buy their leads again, but I love their leadholders
As another commenter already noted: The European made leads ( Staedtler is German) seems to be a quite bit lighter than the Japanese made ones. It's confusing.
I'm not sure if there's a difference in country-of-origin regarding product line, but their Mars Carbon lead (at least for the Micro) are "Carbon" rather than traditional graphite, which is a little harder to break and tends to be less glossy than traditional graphite mix. Perhaps that contributes to the difference in perceived lightness. Idk.
That thing in the lead refill is probably another sharpener.
I also like this lead holder except for the fact that it doesn't fit into my lead pointer, I had to modify my lead pointer by drilling the hole larger.
I loved your review.
About what you said about smudging. Most artsist I know, put a piece of paper under their hand. to avoid smudging, however I also use slippery naylon pieces as you aslo said you do, for the same reason. It's weird that most use paper, because they know, that paper can easily smudge graphite! How on earth, they don't see that, since they use paper (Tortilions, paper stumps etc) to do just that! ?!! PS Faber Castell TK 4600 clipless, or TK 9400, are my favorite lead holders for drawing. Please,have you tried these and if yes, do you still like the Staedtler 925 more? Thanks in advance
Sorry I haven't tried the Faber Castell lead holders. I bought the Staedtler 925 because I believed METAL = GOOD. This ended up being a rather silly assumption .
After trying out many different kinds of pens/pencils I've personally found that you need to have very good knurling on a metal pen to match the grip of basic smooth plastic (Or maybe my fingers are weird). The grip on the Staedtler 925 is better than smooth plastic, but it's only found on the very end, like they only expected you to write with it or something.
Also the people using paper as a smudge protector must take a lot of time making sure that it's not smudging lol.
@@Ashsibe About the 2mm leads, I found that I don't like the Staedter 2B, however the Staedtler 4B is a different story! I really like that 4B!! As for 2B, Faber Castell 2mm works better for me. Also, I guess you won't like the plastic body of the Faber Castell TK 9400 or 4600, however, most artists agree, that the 9400, is the best lead holder for drawing. I got the 4600 and I'm really in love with it, especially when I removed the clip! I now on a search, to find my next lead holder. I have a couple of Ko-hi-noor 5.6 in my mind, but I would love, another 2mm to pair it with the Faber Castell! Enjoy drawing sir!!
can the clip remove ? I'm using a 2.mm lead and it's hard to hold on side ways. Can you tray it ?
Nice presentation 👏 👌
Thank you.
Isn't that little "doodad" in the top of the lead box a pointer? Will it fit into the cap?
No. I found out later that it is a plastic color coded end cap for another lead holder. So if you have multiple lead holders going you know what lead shade it is.
I have one of the nasty cheap one too !
which one
Is it worth buying staedtler 925-25 in comparison to 925-35?what about build quality of the pen?any issues problems while using the pen?can we use the pen for writing work?
I think the 925-25 and the 925-35 are the same pencil except in color. The build quality is excellent, some of the best you can find.
As a personal preference I would get a 0.5mm variant for writing, but I must warn you that the lead sleeve is still not retractable on the thinner lead models. So if you want to carry it around in a pocket you might stab yourself.
The lack of lead pointer really irritated me as well. The staedtler 780 comes with one but the silver on this model was too pretty to pass up
Really?
I never use sharpener or eraser when it is 'attached' to a pencil.
I enjoy to have a good eraser and sharpener.
Was the lead pointer of staedler works with this 2mm lead holder model
I don't know. But I'd be amazed if it wasn't compatible.
Not that you asked for it but here is my personal opinion of all lead pointers: I don't know why they exist.
I bought a 2mm lead holder to make thick pencil lines with. I don't know why I would buy a lead pointer when I can buy a really good mechanical pencil for the same price. And make thin lines with that. I don't know maybe I'm missing something... I guess the by-product of graphite powder is cool.
Just wondering. Can you use a regular mechanical pencil lead as it's refill?
This model only takes pencil lead that is 2mm thick. There are different Staedtler 925 models for different lead thicknesses.
For example if you want to use the most common 0.5mm lead size you'll just have a buy a 0.5mm mechanical pencil.
@@Ashsibe Is the refill called Staedtler mars micro carbon?
@@normankimnavarrete1652 Yes. Unless you're buying the 2mm lead then it is called 'mars carbon'.
@@Ashsibe Got it. Thanks a lot for your reply.
Is the cap made of aluminum (like the body) or plastic?
It is definitely made out some kind of metal. Like the rest of the lead holder. Metal. Metal everywhere.
@@Ashsibe
I ask because someone in another video stated it is plastic, but I had doubt.
@@mauriciolacruz I like to second guess myself so I just tested out the electrical conductivity of the cap with a multimeter. It's conductive. But it does seem to have a very hard non-conductive coating, like some kind of paint, on it though.
@@Ashsibe
So it might be aluminum (like the body) but painted or anodized.
Is it heavy?
Yeah its got some weight to it. 21 grams apparently ( according to some websites)
@@Ashsibe thank you.
Does the cap come with lead pointer/sharpener?
No. It's just a metal cap with nothing inside.
i was actually really disappointed with the rattling of this lead holder, it's quite a big blow to its quality as far as i'm concerned. i was able to mute it quite a bit by stuffing a small rolled up piece of paper in the top tube without it conflicting with the mechanism, and it's much better. still not what i expected tho, especially side by side with a plastic staedtler copycat that doesn't rattle or creak at all. at least it has a nice weight to it. the grip isn't that much of a selling point to me because i tend to exclusively hold lead holders from the back, and i mostly bought it cus the full metal build was appealing to me, but the build quality just isn't there.
LOL, yeah the eraser cover does rattle quite a bit. It doesn't bother me though, the way it writes is what counts.
How to sharpen lead
Nail file, lol
Can we use staedler 502 sharpner for this ???
I know I'm too late to help, but it's not directly compatible. I'm sure you can make it work with care. If you really need an external, the Japanese Staedtler "oval" or "egg" sharpener will fit the lead itself.
Mine came broken so I'm glad to see I wasn't insane in how the pencil was supposed to work. My cap was not secure and my lead came broken. The cap would not secure at all and if the pencil was upside down it'd fall off along with all the lead. :(
But I like your video!