Jets draft Olu Fashanu, Penix Jr and Falcons, Is Denver the right fit for Bo Nix? | NFL | THE HERD
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- The New York Jets opted to go with Olu Fashanu with their 1st-round pick, deciding to protect Aaron Rodgers instead of giving him a new weapon. Colin Cowherd and former Jets HC Eric Mangini reflect on the pick, and the shocking selection of Michael Penix Jr. by the Atlanta Falcons. Plus, they ask if Bo Nix will be a good fit for the Denver Broncos.
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Jets draft Olu Fashanu, Penix and Falcons, Is Denver the right fit for Bo Nix? | NFL | THE HERD
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Up yours Colin
Colin: "The Jets need to draft o-line, drafting a WR or TE is a waste of a pick."
*Jets draft o-line*
Colin: "Here's a guest who can come in and prove why it was a bad idea for the Jets to draft o-line."
Nah coach is a clown for wanted Bowers over o line
Just Colin being Colin
And that’s part of a good show
@@kingjayburnernah he’s not, he’s explained exactly why
If the broncos wanted JJ they could have easily traded up to get him.
Agreed. And they looked happy when they drafted Nix as well. Not every teams war room is gonna throw a party when they draft there guy.
Sean said in the press conferance that he was smokescreening McCarthy all draft season. Nobody wanted him that high...Minnesota bit. Exactly what Denver wanted.
@db212006 where can I find that?
Why qhen they will tank to get sheduer
@@db212006He never said that. Why are you lying?
Eric is acting like he was a winning head coach
Mic drop 🤣
Doesn’t need to be a successful head coach, his work as an assistant and the very fact he was qualified to be head coach gives him more than enough merit
@@tommckowen5546 Yeah but no one is an expert it’s all guessing just like CJ Stroud was a risk yet he was the best quarterback drafted so no one doesn’t know nothing everyone passed on Puka so ???
Sean Payton would NOT have mortgaged his legacy on a guy he wasn’t confident about. If he wanted JJ he would’ve traded up. That simple
Bo nix is better and ill die on that hill
@@mdb1010you might be right but, coaches have the guys that they like they they FEEL they can work with the best that fits what they want to do offensively.
It’s not Madden and you take the highest rated player.
If that’s the case then there would never be a Tom Brady
Denver didn't have any capital to trade up even though they would rather have other qbs. They got Bo out of desperation
Monday morning gm , nobody saw the falcons taking penix
😂 with what's picks are you trading up with?? They were going to get the 5th qb no matter who it was
Care less what this guy has to say about Bo, I am happy we got him, welcome Bo to Bronco Country
If Mangini was good at evaluating talent he'd still be in the NFL
Colin you genius! You put up a smoke screen for Sean Payton and denver saying they wanted JJ McCarthy. I just saw Payton’s interview about getting Nix, you’re a great friend. And to the other guy, there’s no need to jump and get excited when you get Nix bc 1) it was almost certain at that point 2)they put in all the other work (smoke screens, misdirections etc) to assure they got the guy they wanted without trading away picks. I’ve seen sean unhappy with a qb (Russ) and you can tell this was the guy he truly wanted
Mangini on fire today 😂
He was so funny on FTF
If denver truly really wanted Mccarthy they could have outbid Minnesota at that spot. There also was celebrating and Nix fits that offense perfectly. With sean and manning coming out saying they liked McCarthy, thats a clear smoke screen
Smoke screen for what? MN was always picking JJ. How did them moving up help the Broncos?
No draft capital. Not am option.
@@nevermind55555 cry
@@watchmesquatch lol. Say what? Cry? Why? I am not a fan of either team. Your comment was just dumb.
Even if MN had outbid them - if they had been in a bidding war it would be reflected in the transaction. MN didn't give up much for that trade, which tells me there never was a bidding war going on.
No they not back to square 1,the Jets OL is now off the chart good ,Hall is going to run for 2 thousand yards and Rodgers going to be comfortable in the pocket. A 3rd WR in the draft will do.
The laugh by J Mac was awesome!!!
J mac is awful
@@derecknorman5487 agreed but, the laugh was hilarious
Arthur Blank was past his bed time. He must have woke this morning and said "my GM did what??"
Bo was Sean's guy all along, at least in the batch of 3 "2nd tier" quarterbacks available. He baited Minnesota to move up a spot for JJ. The post-pick interviews have all been positive for all 6 quarterbacks, but I think Denver knew they couldn't reach far enough for Williams-Daniels-Maye, so they focused on Nix-JJ-Penix. Out of those 3, Bo was always our choice.
Low key he they traded away Juedy because Nix wears #10. Should’ve followed the breadcrumbs all along 🤦🏾♂️😂
How is Pennix the best backup not having played one NFL SNAP?
I wondered the same thing. Colin's just riffing, making it up as he goes😂
Just watch him throw the ball and point to a backup who can do the things penix can do
Draft night reactions have no correlation to players careers. Look at Aaron Rodgers. But Eric Manghini would never understand development of players…
Ridiculous comment about Broncos not really wanting Nix.
So you say we used 30 lineman but we need a TE that’s why mangini ain’t a coach
A good tight end can block and catch thats the point.
Did you listen? 12 personnel is a good way to hide your bad oline. 2 extra TEs that can block and get open fast, will help keep your qb upright. And Rodgers is at his best when he runs 12 personnel.
What he's saying get rid of ur gm
@@xjudoflip7381they never listen or don’t be comprehending
Watch Atlanta end up looking like geniuses in two or three years with the Penix pick.
So mangini believes because they haven’t fixed the o line, they should just stop trying to fix it?
He’s not the brightest.
thats why im glad he isnt our GM anymore
It's a great pick...he's gonna be starting by mid week...
Colin just dislikes Rodgers and the Jets franchise so he’ll always be negative towards them
Accurate; Rodgers has replaced his baker hate
Why should he like the jets? Loser franchise
What’s there to be positive about?
I’m a Cardinals fan, one of the most pathetic franchises in the NFL, and even I look down on the Jets 😂
seriously 😂 professionalism requires no biased analysis to the smart one’s complaining in the comments
Coach Mangini coming with the HEAT! Love him setting Colin straight!
The Xavier Worthy pick was perfect. Colin just looks for reasons to pick at the Chiefs. Worthy was productive as well as fast. When you run that fast you don’t have to be big.
Coach with the Xbox reference nice
Look at teams with a great backup QB, how did it work out for them? Steve Young in San Francisco... The QB's that Colin mentioned for Green Bay, Doug Flutie, Nick Foles... Is there ever an instance when a great backup turned out to be a real problem? Especially if he is inexpensive or a draft pick.
Just imagine Bowers and Pitts for a second
It's about Team Building, from Inside Out. Not Outside In. The Bears have two very good WR's, a very good TE and a capable RB who can pass catch as well, right? Who are the Bears going to throw the ball to? Bears have "4 receivers" already on the roster. Imagine the pass rush with just 4 Defensive Linemen if they added BYRON MURPHY II. The best interior defender in this year's draft, Murphy brings an explosion inside that the Bears need. How many Superbowls did Tom Brady and the Patriots win with a “trio of #1 wide receivers”?
Great points by Mang about WRs. It seems like the position that might be most impacted by situation...who is your OC, QB, competition, etc in college and does it overrate or underrate you
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I said the same thing on the Denver Broncos RUclips channel 8 o'clock this morning, Peyton and the general manager did not look excited picking Bo Nix! in fact neither of them said they were excited till they were six minutes into the press conference. history shows you're lucky to get one quarterback in the entire draft that will go on to be a successful starter. The Broncos have a project quarterback and maybe in a season or two he will be ready. Look how much benefit Jordan love had sitting on the bench for three seasons, Mahomes, Brady, Lamar, Aaron Rodgers most of the really good quarterback sat on the bench for several seasons. Broncos better hope Peyton can get Wilson to improve or it's gonna be a long season or two!
So Mangini just wants the Jets to give up on the O-line….
Just stop trying to to fix it because it’s been tough
I’m with Colin on the Penix draft. Actually think it’s pretty smart
me2
It’s smart if you didn’t spend a zillion dollars on an old injured qb. Imagine if you signed a great FA pass rusher and safety instead? You would be in great position today
It only makes sense if the Falcons actually think they already have everything they need to win right now. Otherwise, whether they're building to win now, or building to win later, the sequence of choices does not make sense
Eric Mangini was a great and I mean GREAT head coach
Saying “Worthy” and “not a great route runner” shouldn’t be used in the same sentence
The fact anybody would ever take Manginis advice is laughable. Kirk cousins was never the guy. They probably wanted Penix before cousins but there was no guarantee he was gonna be there.
I do not understand the hate for Bo Nix and the praise for JJ when one actually threw the ball and the other watched his team run for victories.
Watched his team for victories? Hahahaha please stop
@@travisoshea man threw the ball 8 times one game he is a glorified game manager. What beat Alabama the run game it wasn’t him
@@captinchewy7592 hahahaha again just stop. You sound like a massive casual.
J.J. Was overrated last season. He did not produce at quarterback like the other 5. He just shot up because his team won the championship, which is great to pop him in the first round but he is not better than Bo or even Penix.
@@ernestgarduno1492 exactly!! Man!!
People must not know Conklin. Had 61 catches last season. Ruckert will be solid as well.
Payton absolutely wanted Nix. They floated JJ interest to protect their desire to get Nix.
Jets have gone through a ton of o linemen. They have also had legendarily bad injury luck. Moses and Fant got hurt with the jets and started and played well for other teams. AVT tore Achilles and triceps, Becton had 2 knee surgeries, Mitchell had blood clots, one guy retired due to neck injury, Warren got hurt, McGovern hurt, Tomlinson hurt, Schweitzer hurt, Tippman got hurt, Brown got hurt.
They should be the new York black cats lol
The very little draft capital it took for MN to move up would've been fairly easy to beat by Denver if they truly wanted JJ. MN may still have won but I think it would've required more draft capital than it did.
Nix is perfect for the Broncos, Mangini is as terrible a analyst as he was a coach
awful
Interesting, when coaches go into the media side and you listen to how they think and just listen to them.... that's when you realize why they're not coaching anymore and why they were 'let go'..... no disrespect..
The Bears have drafted over 30 QB's in the Super Bowl era, and they've all been trash. Does that mean they should also not draft Caleb Williams? The Jets argument was dumb.
Mangini you drafted Gholston !!
Coach is wrong on Nix. Payton even talked about having a conference call with the Vikings and Raiders to clarify that since the vikings wanted jj, and the raiders wanted penix, everyone could relax. The falcons taking penix threw a wrench into the system.
I'm ecstatic that we got nix. If he's not the guy, there's no one outside of Williams or Daniel's that is
guy is clueless
It also I think really undermines Curt’s motivation. I know that sounds counterintuitive, but if he feels like his team doesn’t really believe in him, that’s gonna hurt things
Based on the success that Mangini had I feel like you can determine if his critiques are valid.
Anybody that knows football knows tight ends take a year or 2 to get going no matter how good they are
Is it just me or the volume is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly low off late?
Xavier Worthy: “not a great route runner, track guy, lot of drops”
This Oklahoma fan grins because it’s true.
And then frowns because it won’t matter and he’s going to have a great career because he has Mahomes and Reed
lol exactly sounds like MVS and mecole hardman, not sure how Hollywood brown and worthy are going to be any different. At the same time who are we to say anything because they have the league in a death grip
There’s a reason why Mangini isn’t making these types of decisions anymore.
Dude flopped all his mock drafts and then acts like he didn't. Colin is a joke
That’s my thing too, if they took penix in like the 20s that would be one thing. But with the 8th pick, and literally the only positions taken were qb, tackle, and WR, you have literally so many possibilities to choose from, why reach for a qb who you don’t even plan to start for at least 2 years?
You already paid Kirk, why not build around him rather then worrying about a future that may not even come into fruition for 2-4 years from now.
“They may not have their 1st rnd pick next year that’s why they picked him”
Well they would have it if they didn’t offer Kirk a contract! Lol
The president of football operations of the Atlanta falcons should be removed
Mangini is hilarious 😂
Did Mangini not watch Sean Paytons interview after the pick? We laid out exactly why they choae Nix and said he was exactly the guy they wanted.
Need a qb
Damn Eric is good. Didn’t know he was funny too. Another great go to guest. Fox is quickly stacking up talent vs the other big sports media company
You did it Colin, you made Bo Nix a first rounder when no one else believed you.
Question for coach Mangini: what were the "wow plays" that led you to draft Brian Robiskie? 🤔
Asking for a friend.
mangini is really smart man i love this segments set up. colin phrasing each question perfectly throwing alley oops to coach with each take. brilliant.
There's a reason why Eric Mancini's no longer in the league.He doesn't know what he's talking about
As a Tampa Bay fan, I am happy for all the chaos that ATL just created for themselves.
It shows they are dysfunctional from the owner down. I'm ok with that.
And why are all the "sports pundants" expecting ATL to win the NFC South ? Really ??
I think Jason Licht might have something to say about that, certainly Todd Bowles and definitely Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans.
Mangini has no idea what he talking about when it comes to the broncos 💀💀💀
Mangini is talking out of his other end. Tyron smith has not played a full season since 15.
Bo nix is a top 10 pick.😊
Eric Mangini knows what he’s talking about, especially with the Falcons head scratcher. That’s not team building. Penix is excellent but he’s played A LOT so he’s going to be ready to start but Falcons don’t have an out with Cousins until after the third season. Then again at Cousins salary if they bench him he will beg for a trade if anyone wants him. Just a mess in Atlanta.
Mangini - a guy no one can trust!
Weird take since he drafted 2 in one rd granted he was the best talent evaluator they have had in my lifetime and the line he built was the top unit in football
Not one person mentioned that cousins could be traded even. You’re getting at least a first round draft pick and they take on the contract. They have a guy that’s a solid nfl qb and get to evaluate the guy they loved in the draft. New England during their dynasty gained alot of draft capital from developing back up qbs. And Tom Brady was drafted right after drew Bledsoe signed a big contract. Also I think it was Flynn as a back up to Rodgers signed a big contract with Seattle just to draft Wilson. Cousins would at least have trade value. I think cousins and Dak are about the same level. I probably take cousins. Good to great at times. Not elite.
That’s the reason we both watching football from the couch 🥴🥴
Eric, the whole line was injured for two years. No wonder why he’s not a coach anymore lol
Name one qb that was given a bad oline, below average OC or bad receivers and still did pretty well? Herbert?
Jets brought in 3 o line through FA, that is true, yes. But Morgan Moses and Tyron smith are both 33 years old and Tyron smith hasn’t played a full healthy season since 2015. If your franchise LT is there at 11 you take him. And he can learn from both of those guys. I guarantee he will start. Our o line can NEVER stay healthy. It was a good pick. TE Brock bowers was the luxury pick but Olu was the necessity pick. Ruckert and Conklin will be fine.
This guy sounds like a coach 😂
The Broncos is fixed with Bo Nix.
They also have had a ton of injuries on that OL, so let’s calm down a bit.
Bo Nix was 3rd on SPs QB board. You can disagree all you want but there's a reason why Eric Mangini is making marginally coherent arguments on TV shows and Sean Payton is being paid $20M per year by the richest owners in sports to coach an NFL franchise.
Mangini's take is so bad. The proof that SP liked Bo better than JJ is in the trade up by Minn and relatively low cost for it in the end. If SP wanted JJ he would have blown that trade out of the water, but SP wanted Bo all along. The Minn trade was to protect against the Raiders not the Broncos. The Raiders guy got nabbed at 8 and that made Minn a little worried about losing JJ to them, JJ being Minn's second choice behind Maye.
Maye was too much of a fundementals project for SP. Payton isnt the kind of QB guru who fixes bad fundamentals, thats not what he looks for. I dont see Sean Payton as the kind of QB guru who would have fixed Josh Allen, but he is the kind of QB guru who will scheme a system to fit a guys strength and Bo's strengths are all the things SP wants in a prospect.
If you cant see how Bo Nix could legitimately be the 3rd QB on Sean Payton's QB big board then you just dont get it. Disagree with him all ypu want, but that is how SP saw it. He has said it and I believe him.
The Falcons are so poorly run it’s hilarious
Didn’t have a problem when RG3 was drafted by redskins and then they selected Kirk cousins ..🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Never forget Sean is friends with Colin and worked for fs1. So get ready for bias (lol)
If Bowers drops a pass, Aaron is going to disown him for 1/2 the season so wouldn't have been great imo.
Eric. How are you gonna say that about Bo. When if you clearly watch the post draft interviews everybody is extremely happy they got him. Also Sean is a more successful hc then you’ve ever been I think I trust his judgement more then yours lmao
Mangini is so wrong, so often. He would've applauded Bowers at 10 for the Jets. Well...Douglas took Fashanu, who most consider a top3 O-lineman in this draft, then having only ONE pick in day 2, he gets WR Corley, who in play style is very similar to ....guess who? Bowers! A weapon who breaks tackles, lines up in a variety of places & some call a "mini Deebo".
Mangini must be on some strong stuff. The Jets o-line has been a problem, so they should just stop trying to fix it? He is really reaching here.
The mock drafts from February are more accurate then the ones from 3-4weeks ago. Everyone said the giants were taking Nabers. Then all of a sudden last week they r gonna take Mccarthy. People gotta relax.
I dont see it with Nix, I see the definition of undraftable.
Well atl can trade cousins to raiders if penix works out early. Kirks making 2.6m a game so why should he care for the last 2 years of his career. Penix isn’t young either , no need to waste a rookie contract. Hopefully morris can coach up the defense. It does have some gaps.
Mangini is way off on his comments. If Denver wanted Jj McCarthy, they had plenty of capital to trade for him including picks or Pat Surtain if need be- who’s worth anywhere from a 1st and a 3rd to 2 1st round picks. There’s a reason Mangini don’t coach anymore. Go Nix. Go Broncos.
We have 2 TEs Eric 😂
Will bo nix get berated on the sideline?? Sean Payton picked his qb, no more excuses. Coming soon: if nix doesn't work out, sean payton will be protected by the media and bo nix will get ALL of the BLAME.
Broncos didn’t want JJ.
Coach mangini is dead wrong that was a smoke screen(that Peyton was likely in on). Sean said he felt as strongly about Bo as he did about mahomes in 2017 when KC jumped the saints and took him
Eric Mangini sounds like Brock Lesnar
Mancini is a dope. what is his point about the Jets? he can't even articulate it properly. the Jets hit on Vera Tucker and Tippman in the draft, and missed on mekhi. now they hope to hit on Olu. what exactly is the problem?
Hit on Vera Tucker ? Mister glass ? Hasn’t finished the season the past 2 years ..... soon he won’t even be a jet !
The problem is joe Douglas signed 3, THREE offensive lineman in the offseason, re- signed Hansen, so that’s FOUR offensive lineman. And then he drafts another who won’t even be playing ..... that’s the issue. It’s a waste of a top 11 draft pick. Could’ve had the best playmaker and weapon of the entire draft.
Manginis point is they used an 11 pick to draft depth on their line. A guy that won’t even start barring an injury to one of the many lineman they picked up in free agency. All while Brock bowers was just standing there waving at them.
@DyslexicIm then he should have said that lol not some rambling diatribe about "30 guys." LT is the second most important position, and the Jets current starter is old and injury prone. if you don't see the value of this pick then you don't know football.
The Jets got it right!!! My Nittany Lions 🦁 tackle Olu is a badass man!!! You will find out!!! WE ARE 🏈 Unrivaled
If they took bowers Colin would’ve said they should’ve gone OL
Looking over the last 5 years tho first round WR has been fairly successful that stat is weighed down by the 2010s and 2000’s dogma of drafting the biggest guys not the most skilled
For example Dorial Green-Beckham was a first solely off size and potential rather than actual skills and production
What is he talking Sean was literally smiling and talking so good about bo 😂 there’s a reason mangini isn’t a coach no it’s 😂
If Denver is awful his whole time there isn’t Sean Payton just bill belichek w a mouth?
Drafting a TE or RB is such a waste of a first round pick
Mangini didnt even watch the draft did he.