I’m in a PhD program in the social sciences and something I’ve learned is that generally the more pretentious someone sounds, the less they know wtf they’re talking about. Being able to express complex ideas in simple and clear language is an undervalued skill.
As someone in science communication, I couldn’t agree more. It’s harder to explain concepts in digestible language is harder than using flowery, big words.
Wow i JUST commented the same thing hahaha. My father was a professor/researcher in the field of developmental psychology and he always says the same thing! My father comes from a family that values academics and intellect more than anything and he always said that you can usually tell that intelligent people are those that can explain a concept in the simplest terms available to still convey it correctly. People constantly throwing in the biggest words when there is no need are either politicians or language-enthusiasts, or just trying to sound smarter than everyone else around them. Imo and in my experience this is very true and a good way to quickly tell apart a well-educated/intelligent person from just a pretentious dweeb (or someone with insecurities about their intelligence).
the problem is Cole doesn’t know how to stop performing. his actual existence is a performance. he has to play up being an intellectual and a tortured artist.
throughout the whole interview I was trying to find words for his expressions and gestures, because it was clear that he was literally... performing this "self-idolized-cole-character". thank you for putting the problem I saw into words for me, it is exactly how he made me feel :)
Cole is almost like a foil of Jennette McCurdy. Both child actors serving as the sole bread winner for their families. Except Jennette is an example of someone who stepped back and took time to process the severe trauma of being a child actor. Watching some of his other interviews I feel like his pseudo-intellectualism doesn’t come from a place of tying to “appear smart” but from not being socialized appropriately and the adultification he experienced. He definitely has a LOT of trauma, and it obviously impacts the way he views himself and those around him. I feel bad for him more than anything,, I hope he gets the help he needs.
@@leleprtk what shitty behavior do you feel the need or right to judge him for though and what does making fun of the way he speaks have to do with that? It seems like people are just bringing up things he did wrong in the past as an excuse to make fun of him now for unrelated things which doesn’t make you any better. If you guys don’t like him then don’t engage with the content instead of criticizing somebody that you don’t even actually know’s personality quirks that are present in a lot of other people that aren’t doing anything to you either.
@@devinxoxo8350 We have the freedom to criticize BECAUSE he willingly put himself on these podcasts and in the spotlight. If he is exercising his right to speak his opinion in a public space then we are too. How dumb can you be.
This quippy nonsense never takes into consideration the fact that the average middle class American literally can't afford therapy. Unless you have a diagnosable mental illness, chances are your insurance won't cover you seeing a shrink.
he was WAY more openly uhhhh... let's say "cringe about race" back then, so at least he's grown on that front? or maybe he just doesn't talk to black women anymore, if its not in the script 👀 one or the other, depending on how charitable you wanna be
I only saw his insta back then when Riverdale premiered, it was his photography mostly, it was beautiful but he always captioned it with pretensious words similar as in that video lol
i mean ive hated him for years and still do but women say stuff like this all the time too (what men want etc) so i think its ok for him to have a perception of what women like based on his experience as well.
@Win Win i mean yeah i understand but i think anyone saying ''women this'' or ''men that'' are basing off their own experience, but also what is culturally dominant knowledge in society, what people say etc
@@lucasouza889 except that men are socialized in a way that harms women directly so it's very different. Women have to constantly be on the look out for men's behaviors and simultaneously present ourselves a certain way. While men don't care about their own presentation and not do women as a majority seek to hurt them. Men are our predators currently so we do know their behaviors for the most part. You can't just flip the genders and make it seem like we're all on equal ground, when it's the complete opposite.
The bit where he mocked kids who went into acting cause they wanted to and had parents who were trying to be supportive is the weirdest part for me lmao
that was so awful because he's clearly mocking like the typical effeminate theater kid as if it was a bad thing, not like a deep and tortured artist like himself ig 🙄
yeah he needs therapy real bad😭cuz why is he making fun of kids who got to choose that life? like sorry you didn’t but let’s not make fun of the kids who also got traumatized from the industry simply bc it was their passion🤷🏽♀️
He looks depressed nowdays...he seems different, probably his break up hit hard or it was something else before that, he talked about his mom being narcissit recently on another podcast
I read it mostly as him talking about how you have a different attitude when working for your survival vs having all your needs met and doing something because you love it. Looking back it was pretty pretentious the way he went about it though.
@@maaria7332 pretentious is a pretty common word which most people know, stop being condescending and looking down on people. Just because Cole acts smarter than he is doesn’t mean you need to as well just because you’re a fan of him.
I think he was trying to say that girls apparently like boys who bully other boys, however he’s completely failing to consider the fact that plenty of boys bully girls as well. He seems to think the only victims of male bullies are other boys.
i did this in my AP Lit class in senior yr of HS because i had gone thru something traumatic and was extremely high for the second semester, and. although i LOVED reading and writing (have literally based my life on it) and she picked amazing novels for us… i had to rush thru them, sparknote even the ones i read cuz i didn’t remember them, etc. and she saw right through my big word pseudointellectual essays, especially cuz she had seen my sober ones. you can’t bullshit a real intellectual with those big words if you’re only summarizing the details you’re discussing 😂
reminds me of my narcissistic mom, who for therapy goes through what she could've done better every day, and it is never anything other than "i should've been kinder to myself"
@@adolin.kholin if you think narcissistic people really love themselves you don’t understand narcissism. They actually don’t. They pretend to in order to talk themselves into thinking that. They don’t feel self love tho.
@@CherryJuli This isn't about if they love themselves. It's about her inability to admit to flaws and hide behind "I have to be kind to myself" to avoid any and all behavior actually harmful to her environment that she would have to admit to otherwise. Whether they love themselves or not has nothing to do with that.
Cole seems like he's still in Cody's character, being the cocky, smart, pretentious brother, and Dylan is still in Zack's character, being the cool brother.
"He oozes guy who tried shrooms for the first time and has just discovered empathy". Never have I felt so simultaneously targeted yet amused by a sentence.
Ive been thinking this for years. So many podcasting dudes who love mushrooms and like, I get it, it made big changes for them. But they think doing shrooms casually with their buddies is a replacement for therapy and self work. Shrooms was the starting point for me to shake up all the patterns of thinking and behavior I had gotten stuck in. To actually be the person I want to be and break old habits has been a lot of work since then and its a lot more boring than doing shrooms. Its worth it though.
That’s really interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m in the same situation. Done loads of therapy, meditate every day for my anxiety etc. Went on a facilitated retreat a while back and it was huge complement (not replacement) to all the “regular” brainwork I do.
@@maaria7332 they are pointing out that the way Cole speaks is intentionally verbose and convoluted, that doesn’t mean that they haven’t opened a dictionary before. Using big, obscure words for no reason doesn’t automatically make you smart, especially if it sounds forced and unnatural.
😂The ones that pretend to be deep to get in your pants are the worst. They're the ones that would spin everything & act like you're not as evolved as them to even be attached in the least, to even expect to be treated like a decent human after hooking up. I had a flat mate that acted that he was so evolved that's why he could sleep around & not get attached.
Despite all the jokes and memes he just strikes me as someone who thinks they’ve dealt with their trauma but very clearly hasn’t and uses intelligence to try mask it.
Being forced to be a child actor and having and addict as a mom isn’t childhood trauma? I agree that he is a bit pretentious but who are you to assume that someone else does not have trauma?
@Ttt Apologies it seems my comment wasnt easy to understand so im sorry I wasnt more clear. I have nothing against intelligence at all. I agree with your comment “why cant they just be smart” thats kind of my point. It comes off as though his intellegence is his entire personality rather than just a part of who he is. I dont know the man so I could be wrong about him but thats just how it comes off to me. Im not academic in anyway but I have nothing against people who are. I dislike people who act like their intelligence makes them better than other people, like how he was talking about two types of acting kids and such. Hope this clears things up a bit. I have no issue with people just because of their intelligence 😊
thank you so much for putting the clips from the two different podcasts side-by-side because it made me realize how in the podcast that is for a female audience lead by a woman he is giving off this cool aloof guy vibe (or trying to rather). And in the podcast led by a man he’s trying to appear more goofy and relatable
We literally sound alike in accent, the only thing different is learning french in some parts not all of canada,food, tim Hortons,fast food chains, and that thankfully y'all take refugees, and saying sawrey instead of sawree and the homeless have better chances of getting government help to not be homeless lol which is terrible in America
@@pandulce4447 bro that is absolutely untrue, Canada has a homeless population of over 200,000 while the USA is at 700,000 max at the extreme end of the estimate, the USA has a population that is almost 10 times larger than Canada. The majority of the homeless population in the USA literally has access to an abundance of options, the difference is that these options require one to stop using drugs, report to a case manager, maintain employment, etc.
@@tb8654 I'm not saying homeless people have any more advantage over Canadian homeless but y'all have universal healthcare that helps with getting healthcare better than American Medicare which makes people scared of not getting insulin pretty soon copays will make them stay in a hospital do to coma's not saying it's okay actually pretty sad
I love how he describes Vancouver as a foreign city as if they were struggling with language barriers, and major cultural differences. Bro probably tried Tim Hortons once and said it was too exotic for him.
I work with cancer patients and a lot of my work is education and prevention. It’s so ridiculous that pseudointellectuals see cigarettes as some kind of indicator of intelligence when they’re literally just poisoning you slowly…. And he’s inflicting his secondhand smoke on other people in the room. Honestly to me that is the grossest part of this whole thing. You just don’t smoke inside, even if your host tells you its “okay”…..
Maybe his partners all end up "cheating" on him because they're confused why he doesn't have his iconic hat on. You never see him without that hat, after all...he's weird...he's a weirdo.
I watched him in the Diary of a CEO and he didn't sound this conceited and snobbish. LOL He acknowledges that he's narcissistic and seeks validation like his mother. I heard that if you grow up with a narcissist there's a high probability that you'll become one.
Exactly, the fact you even say that reveals that you probably do not. Just check yourself without comparing yourself to someone and thinking “At least I’m not THAT bad.” That’s, you guessed it, pretentious too.
i've known many people like this (and have been traumatised by one of them) but he does strike me as someone who feels the need to mask the trauma he feels with pseudo intellectual bullshit. i've been this person and known this person (english literature degree things) but preaching self-awareness while not actively doing the work has been the biggest and hardest lesson of my early 20s. i hope he ends up being okay and comes to recognize this in himself.
as someone with mom trauma, part of me understands Cole’s the urge to overcompensate & try to prove himself as ‘an intellectual’, ‘a tortured artist’ etc. His family dynamic combined with the trauma of acting his whole childhood though… I can’t even imagine how that has affected his self-concept & attachment style. That said, he comes off extremely entitled, lacks SO MUCH accountability & speaks of others in the most condescending ways possible. There’s a difference between being self-aware and working through your trauma with self-awareness. He knows that his past has damaged his confidence & more recent relationships, but it’s clear he has loads to work through.
What exactly does he need to be held accountable for? Sure he did some immature things over the years but so does everybody, he just so happened to be in the limelight during the worst parts of his life. People these days love to take the moral highground and judge people like they are supposed to be some perfect form of existence, meanwhile the guy in this video is easily as pretentious as the one he makes a video about…
@@matt928 Well said, and I totally agree. I'm old enough to be Cole Sprouse's mother, and from my perspective he's just a young adult trying his best to be a decent person, while also dealing with a traumatic childhood in which he was forced to be his mother's puppet. Yes, it does seem at times that he's trying a bit too hard with the big words and all, but I watched another podcast he was on (not this one) and found that he's honest and willing to admit his flaws. And you hit the nail on the head, the maker of this video is a complete hypocrite, and comes across as a much bigger A-hole than Cole.
@@avamyst70 yeah the memes after Cole talking about his mom were pretty crass … I don’t even have Mom issues but I know better than to make fun of them.
hes been like that way before jughead. even had a tumblr where he would say all of this pretentious shit and then at the end said it was a social experiment and called everyone an idiot for following him. he truly believes that hes smarter and above everyone else, he has like this idea of himself that he attempts to play out but its so transparent and needy that its so difficult to listen or even look at, i obviously cant stand him but now, in this media area where we are way to overexposed to celebrities and they just wont shut up... its a lot clearer to see for everyone else too :) i really had always assumed i was just being a hater despite loving the show (suite) but now... well, you know the rest
@@lizz9896 I've only started watching the show recently, as I don't think I'm the target audience for it (I'm 38), but Nancy Drew ended & Sabrina ended, so I turned to Riverdale (after I saw Sabrina on it). I need to try to not hate Jughead to get through it. 😂
@@izabelaR Why do people care whether or not this person uses big words or is an ‘intellectual’? Lol I’m close to your age so maybe I’m just out of the loop but I don’t get the Cole hate. Seems to be all petty immature stuff for the most part.
I think the main issue with how he talks about himself is even when he is talking about his faults and issues he has to phrase it in almost an attractive, brooding, tortured artist way so even his faults are attractive. It gives off a very Angel in season 1 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer energy but doesn't work as well when you're not a vampire and also when its your actual personality and not a character.
“Harmless bully” is an oxymoron. It’s like saying “benevolent tyrant”. She might say this just to be polite. It’s even illogical for anyone to say everyone loves the bully; unless they are the bully themselves and have not attained the minimum mental capacity to ascertain their own treatment of others constitutes a narcissistic trait.
He is saying it wrong, he meant that people love the bully who is the attractive bad guy, girls do tend to go for the bad guys because they like the risk, feel protected and excuse his behavior because he’s so good looking and selfish, they want his validation.
@@DanniBby being a bad boy is something else than being a bully though. not every bad guy is a bully and not every bully is a bad guy. infact, most male bullies are just insecure kids who chose to feel better about themselves by structurally hurting people.
the fact that cole couldn't take 1 hour off of smoking and the bigger fact that he definitely thought it would make him look cool and edgy makes me want to walk into a desert never to return
Most heavy smokers need to smoke at least once an hour. I know Cole is trying to look more cool than he actually is, but it's not his constant smoking that makes that evident, it's the fact that he keeps on drawing attention to it
Most smokers smoke more when they are having conversations.. and if he really smokes outside of the podcast then I'm sure he isn't smoking "just to look cool" haha plus this isnt the 80s no one thinks smoking is cool anymore. It's all about the vape now.😂
@@Gorgeoustweaker as an ex smoker, i can see he isn't actually smoking the cig. Mans takes 3 hits and just waits in between for it to go out. The way he is blowing the smoke isn't like a "habit" which smokers just puff and that's it, he moves his lips in different directions, like plays around with the smoke ? As well as the inhaling is short? Its like making smoking aesthetic.
Cole gives "name 3 songs" vibes. I was also quite weirded out when he basically tried to write off the allegations of mistreatment at Disney basically as rich kids whining. He's dripping in false intellectualism, and ends up coming across as completely ignorant.
i'm willing to bet that more than half of the people complaining about him smoking cigarettes are the same people who can't get through the day without smoking weed. it's the exact same but now it's becoming more socially acceptable to smoke weed while smoking cigarettes has become more socially unacceptable. if you can accept someone smoking weed then you can get over yourself when someone smokes a cigarette. both are harmful to your body.
Sorry but the bit about almost all of his former partners "cheating him emotionally" to me sounds like the cherry on a narcissistic cake. Like, what are the parameters? Did they all have romantic non sexual affairs? Did they dare have a trusted confidant who wasn't him? Did they dare roll their eyes at the 10000th time he said (edit) "in very many ways"
Yes I agree. He very much seems like he could be narcissistic. He's very self absorbed & I can imagine he was selfish & cold in those relationships. He said they were strongly sexual & not really emotional. For him. They probably felt used & empty. I dated his type.
There’s nothing I despise more than people using big complicated words to explain something just to sound smart. Being smart it’s not based on how eloquent you sound, it’s based on the capability of making yourself understood. Like my professor in college that was able to explain to us complicated texts in a way we understood. At least that’s my opinion, didn’t know cole was such an ass
Wholeheartedly agree 1000%. I've dated this type, so I fell for this bs that they were smarter than me. They sort of manipulate others around them this way. They can fake that you're connecting, where a connection isn't there. They have massive insecurity & massive chip on their shoulder.
Yes!! Rhetoric has nothing to do with how stylish the words you use are, but of how you command language and string it together. It’s more impactful when something meaningful is simply put than when something simple is meaningfully put.
bruh “i try to approach everything with a kind of logos that allows me to think more clearly about what i do. which can be offputting to some people because not a lot of people like being met… with logos” bro just said “i value being logical”
Nothing Cole said was complicated tho it was actually pretty easy to understand and I barely graduated highschool. It’s not Cole’s job to cater to unarticulated people that struggle to finish the first page of a book without having a stroke 😭
he’s done a lot worse than just being a cringey pretentious asshole. he was very emotionally abusive to one of his past girlfriends and she’s been very open about it, but everytime she talks about the abuse she faced his stans attack her and call her a liar. i feel like he’s doing this podcast tour and talking about his traumatic childhood so people feel bad for him and talk about that instead of the fact that he’s an abuser. so many abusers use these tactics and the fact that a lot of people have fallen for it isn’t surprising.
To be fair it's not a good look airing your ex's dirty laundry to the world. It's also pretty likely she isn't 100% innocent that's just not how these things work
@@snoozyq9576 yes but I think you’re confusing complaining about an ex vs speaking out against abuse they faced. One is airing out dirty laundry “he had awful smelly feet” another is speaking out against abuse they endured.
@@snoozyq9576 abuse isn’t something you should shame people for speaking out on. You wouldn’t tell a woman who was a victim of domestic abuse to “stop airing out dirty laundry”
@@snoozyq9576 just curious In elderly/child/sexual abuses cases would you say “well there’s no way that the abused is 100% innocent?”. Abuse is abuse. You don’t sit there and discount the abuse because the abused is a human being aka NOT 100% innocent
in very many ways, cole sprouse does actually have intelligence... unfortunately he uses it to sound like an AI who was only fed C+ college dissertations before being asked questions
I don't know, I think it sounds like someone who thinks they're smart, who *tries to be smart*, reads a lot, but isn't actually clever, doesn't actually have the mental capacity
The ptoblem with our society is that we ourselves are not smart and when we see an ACTUAL smart person like Cole we go like "Omg! He's trying so hard to be smart". If you look into him you'll understand how smart and well spoken he is and tbh i listened to both the podcasts on call her daddy and the diary of a ceo and i didn't find ANYTHING wrong in what he said. She pushed him to tell what happened with him and Lili so ge had to fucking answer. Whereas i think the other diary if a ceo podcast was just great. I got to see him being him. Grow up people
It all stems from a lack of secureness in their own intelligence. When they see someone who actually knows how to articulate their thoughts well and is able to display a wide vocabulary to convey the specifics of that, people naturally become intimidated by them. The truth is that he is actually an intelligent guy, but everyone wants to follow the sheep mindset and believe otherwise to elevate their own ego.
A person's verbal tick can say a lot about them. For example, mine is that I'd add 'you know what I mean?' at the end of my sentences, which checks out because I grew up with middle-child syndrome and I'm always concerned if I'm actually being heard and understood. Cole's tick 'in very many ways' shows how desperately he tries to give himself layers. Not just in one way like you plebs, in VERY MANY ways!! See, I'm complex, guys!
I hate that Cole Sprouse referred to his mom's mental health/physical health crises as her losing her mind. I don't think it's the most offensive ableist line but it's still hurtful.
To speak from another side, he admitted to mom trauma/issues. And I don’t fault a young adult for still having anger or using extreme language toward their abusive caretaker.
@@ripley2995 I have a lot of compassion for him and everyone who's had bad relationships with their family members. It's really good that Cole Sprouse has chosen not to heal from his trauma all by himself but I still find his language offensive, as a person with mental health problems myself.
lmao dude please NO he revived his camera duels account on insta and reading the caption actually killed off the last of my brain cells, i cannot relive the tumblr trauma in 2023 i'm not stable enough
@@ewllen808 I used to like camera duels because I thought he was self-aware and it was all a joke. After watching this I think the one word he DOESNT know is satire
@@kaileytaylor4518 unfortunately u are so correct. i used to think the same thing. like when i was younger i thought this man was so intelligent and now i realize he has no idea what he's talking about ever, he just desperately wants to look cool so badly. kinda sad honestly
My honest response to Cole's recent podcast appearances is that I resonated with his experiences surrounding his mother, and I recognised his awareness in how that relationship impacted him. On the other hand, this reaction video reassured me that I do not need to use big words to make a meaningful point. I felt a bit self-conscious about my own communication skills after watching Cole on The Diary of a CEO. When people present themselves with a pretentious vocabulary, this might create an unnecessary insecurity in the person listening (which it did in me!). Lastly, although it's entertaining to criticise Cole, I don't want to be quick to judge him. He has issues like the rest of us and all we can do is hope for his growth as a person.
I was searching for a grounded comment like this. The comment section seems so intent on judging this guy for his appearance and mannerisms. I’ve just started the video so perhaps more light is shed on his character in this but so far it just seems judgemental.
Yeah the thing that didn't sit right with me during that interview/podcast also was when he said something along the lines of "not aligning with being a victim" because it was "silly to align with victimhood". Bro. You were a kid who was a victim of narcissistic abuse? It's important to acknowledge that and accept that you had no control over that as a child. It doesn't make you weaker to accept that. He then goes on to say it's because he thinks trauma exists to make you wiser, and that's how you gain wisdom to be the great person you are today. You know that wisdom can also be passed down from loving, caring parents whose love is unconditional? Originally I was resonating with his story too, because my own mother essentially has borderline personality disorder (which is the 'other' one next to narcissism with slightly different cause/symptoms) and I know exactly how it feels to be that "extension of the parent" and only good for fulfilling that person's need. But something about what he said about choosing victimhood didn't sit right with me and what you said encapsulates a lot of what I've been thinking. Also sending hugs to you because NPD/BPD parents are a handful ❤️
@@averylfong4843 I get what your saying, I perceived his statement of rejecting victimhood as more like he’s choosing to grow from it rather than living in that victim mentality. My mother also has bpd and she plays the victim card for everything, even when my dad died who she was 10 yrs divorced from it was all about her. This has made me also strongly reject victim mentality and focus on learning from these negative experiences. Not that I was never a victim and I don’t think he meant that either. I could be wrong but that’s just my perspective.
Using pretentious language is almost always meant to make the speaker feel intellectual in this context. There's places to use it. In professional settings you'll probably use proper language and big words but in a casual podcast? There's a time and place for things and if you speak like you're trying to reach a word count or you're writing an email to your English professor to your average person then regardless of whether that person knows those words or not it will make you seem like an unpleasant person. It comes across like you're trying to use big uncommon words so the person will not understand and you'll get the satisfaction of explaining yourself and feeling smarter and above them by doing so. It's pretentious and you look insecure. You shouldn't feel that "unnecessary insecurity" because that was the intention. You should feel annoyed that he's making you feel that way and if you meet someone who does that irl then you should tell them to speak plainly. It might feel rude but if they get offended then they are pretentious and we're doing it on purpose and if they accept the criticism them maybe in the future they'll remember and will come across more likable and approachable.
The way Cole speaks and his mannerisms reminds me of Robert California from The Office and I'm so scared he'll say "I'm the f.cking lizard king" at any moment now
the quote "if i had loved myself a little more, I probably would have left a little earlier" had me flabbergasted. THE AUDACITY. THE NERVE. How can you say something like that about a person you involved romantically with for years? And saying it was a mutual break-up... Yeah sure cole, we can all pretend that you didn't cheat lili with kaia gerber
i actually really don’t think that was a rude thing to say or weird at all, i think you should perhaps do some self reflecting. out of all the things you could have commented on that he said, this is by far the least weird or wrong
It’s so funny because any time I’ve seen Dylan in an interview, which granted is far less frequent, he seems so much more normal. Just weird that they came out so opposite.
"Film bro who's a little too into la la land and doesn't reciprocate oral" is both scary accurate and incredibly funny. This whole video is very funny and i thank you for sitting through that shit to make it.
In the realm of Aubrey Plaza joking that Bo Burnham could just as easily have been a random guy that explains jazz to you at a party. Though that was more of an affectionate jibe
I will say I don't think we should give Cole a hard time over how he talks about his experience with his mother. That seems like it was a difficult experience
There is such a huge difference between his personality and vibe in the Call her daddy podcast versus the diary of a ceo podcast. I think in the latter there was less tolerance or encouragement of the “too cool for school” pretentiousness or maybe he reflected on the call her daddy podcast and decided to make changes. Cos on the diary of a ceo podcast he speaks more respectively about his exes and is more empathetic about his mom’s situation. I’m not sure why that is (one theory is that one is hosted by a man va the other by a woman) but there is a notable difference.
I think a lot of us go through a pretentious phase in our lives just bc we haven't learned how to be comfortable with ourselves yet. Most of us grow out of that in our early 20s, but Cole is 30 and hasn't yet. I will say that as someone with ADHD, I do get frustrated with my inability to say things in a clear and concise way. I feel like I use too many words because I'm often misunderstood and I want to make sure to get my point across. I don't think that Cole speaks like that bc he has ADHD, but he comes off as an insecure person who feels the need to prove himself. I can relate to that in a way. Even if we over explain for different reasons.
I've never been happier that I was unfazed when everyone was obsessed with him in 2017. Dylan is the only Sprouse I acknowledge. His relationship with his girlfriend is super adorable
@@Llamacoints Cole's appearance reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic and idk why. Both look a little rough yet pretentious...let's hope Cole doesn't start dating women in their early 20s when he's super old
Child stars are always interesting. They’re so often pushed into fame by parents with substantial issues (though not always) but then when they make it they’re showered with attention and praise. I think it creates such an odd combination of trauma and self importance.
I completely agree, constant exposure seems to internalize this feeling of self-importance. I feel that since the camera was created by man, people have lost the ability to be genuine. Whenever someone is in front of a camera (and she knows that at least one person is going to see her), the person automatically changes her behavior to attract attention or look like something she values aesthetically. The most genuine people I know are those who didn't grow up in the age of exposure. I mean, if you really like being smart, just study it, man, but nowdays it's not about being, it's about seeming (English is not my first language)
and essentially saying "yeah i'm only on your podcast so I can get more exposure". I know that what a lot of people do but to say it this bluntly and then say you got it from tate. Weird.
He didn't do something that tate purposefully did. He saw that tate went on a lot of podcasts and got a lot of exposure from it. He recognized the trend behind the action.
@@bentleycoupe8788With a guy as controversial as Andrew Tate, you might want to clarify that or maybe not mention him. He’s a walking red flag. Personally I wouldn’t even want any association with him, and if I had to use a business technique or mention him I’d be pretty clear that he’s a travesty otherwise
THANK YOUUU FOR COMMENTING ON HIS VOCABULARY? every comment i see seems to say he's "so mature" lmao and to me it's so immature because as you showed the sentences often DO NOT MAKE SENSE and he's trying so so hard - I guess he's assuming his audience/interviewers are dumber/younger than him and won't call him on it? like he's trying to be so superior
I’m honestly concerned about him. If anything, I think he’s struggling with some type of mental illness. I hope he gets the help he needs and is able to bounce back from this
I feel like Cole would be the kind to call his gf having male friends or just casually talking to a guy in their class or something emotional cheating.
although it’s redundant i think it has some use when you want to emphasise something, but if you keep repeating it like him it just sounds bad and pretentious like he’s heard someone say it for the first time last week and wants to use it as much as he can lol
I'm a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU for this video. I watched this podcast episode yesterday and the entire time I just sat there and thought to myself: 'Wtf is this guy on about??'. But when I started reading comments, I only saw positive feedback on him and how well articulated he is, which made me furious because for me personally, it just came across as pretentious. so thank you for validating my viewpoint on this, haha
I love all your vines!
Holy shit how did this happen
@@luthientinuviel3883 youve been Chosen,
This Cole Sprouse interview was so effing cringe I couldn't stop watching!!🤣
So embarrassing. Glad to find this channel to laugh with.
a bit late but you've got the spirit buddy
thank you! i know you're not talking to me, but i made some vines too so you might be.
Imagine thinking you're a tortured artist when the art in question is Disney Channel shows and Riverdale
To be fair, both of those could be considered torture.
@@smallman3381 🤣
@@smallman3381 😂😂😂
Nobody will convince me that a small world is not a cia psy op.
If you can't see Disney is torture look at all the drugs they do
I like how after Cole says a “big” or “intellectual” word, he takes a pause, almost like “ok we said the word, now what”
He seriously wants someone to day 'woah'. Hard to watch.
@@susansaphire5983 it’s so difficult to watch he’s trying so hard 😭😭
i heard this comment in spencer shay's very own voice..
@Ttt I’m saying he’s very focused on showing he has a large vocabulary without having any substance behind it. He’s a jackass lol
I thought the same hahahah he says every word as if trying to remember the hard words he knows
Having to watch him sit there smoking like that is a better anti-smoking campaign than any of the world's health organisations have come up with.
😂 yes, smoking doesn’t make you look cool, everyone who smokes, especially young people, look so pretentious
@@Myllkka This. I’m an on and off smoker and ever time I smoke in public I feel so self conscious
I look sick when I rip my elf bar. All the teenagers tell me so😂
@DatingMatis156 i don’t think people think you specifically look cool, it’s just a stereotype that younger people smoke to look cool.
@DatingMatis156 okay wtv
I’m in a PhD program in the social sciences and something I’ve learned is that generally the more pretentious someone sounds, the less they know wtf they’re talking about. Being able to express complex ideas in simple and clear language is an undervalued skill.
As someone in science communication, I couldn’t agree more. It’s harder to explain concepts in digestible language is harder than using flowery, big words.
It reminds me of Russell Brand, he just can't communicate simply
Yes like Jordan Peterson 😃
Simplicity is the highest form of complexity
Wow i JUST commented the same thing hahaha. My father was a professor/researcher in the field of developmental psychology and he always says the same thing!
My father comes from a family that values academics and intellect more than anything and he always said that you can usually tell that intelligent people are those that can explain a concept in the simplest terms available to still convey it correctly. People constantly throwing in the biggest words when there is no need are either politicians or language-enthusiasts, or just trying to sound smarter than everyone else around them.
Imo and in my experience this is very true and a good way to quickly tell apart a well-educated/intelligent person from just a pretentious dweeb (or someone with insecurities about their intelligence).
the problem is Cole doesn’t know how to stop performing.
his actual existence is a performance. he has to play up being an intellectual and a tortured artist.
Haha. I got that sense that he's playing the role of his life, and he sucks at it.
throughout the whole interview I was trying to find words for his expressions and gestures, because it was clear that he was literally... performing this "self-idolized-cole-character". thank you for putting the problem I saw into words for me, it is exactly how he made me feel :)
typical pathological narcissist behavior too...
That is sad actually. He has been in the business for so long that his whole life is an act
@@JokerInfinityWar agreed. its sad and he needs therapy, not to be fake deep.
Cole on this podcast is literally me on my English speaking exam trying to use as many sophisticated words as possible to get a high score
Hhahaha yup
Me writing an assignment at 11:45pm be like... "In very many ways...
I used to google synonyms for words and picked which ever sounded the most sophisticated
That's what I'm saying
I cannot stress this enough the "doesn't reciprocate oral" line made me laugh so fucking hard
I literally spit out my drink
same 😂
I love it because you know it's true
ikr i haven't heard something so true in my life
I AM PISSING MYSELF
Cole is almost like a foil of Jennette McCurdy. Both child actors serving as the sole bread winner for their families. Except Jennette is an example of someone who stepped back and took time to process the severe trauma of being a child actor. Watching some of his other interviews I feel like his pseudo-intellectualism doesn’t come from a place of tying to “appear smart” but from not being socialized appropriately and the adultification he experienced. He definitely has a LOT of trauma, and it obviously impacts the way he views himself and those around him. I feel bad for him more than anything,, I hope he gets the help he needs.
@@leleprtk i don’t think just talking like an ass counts as ‘shitty behaviour’
you used lots of big words but I totally got what you were getting at 😂 I agree one hundred percent.
@@leleprtk what shitty behavior do you feel the need or right to judge him for though and what does making fun of the way he speaks have to do with that? It seems like people are just bringing up things he did wrong in the past as an excuse to make fun of him now for unrelated things which doesn’t make you any better. If you guys don’t like him then don’t engage with the content instead of criticizing somebody that you don’t even actually know’s personality quirks that are present in a lot of other people that aren’t doing anything to you either.
@@devinxoxo8350 We have the freedom to criticize BECAUSE he willingly put himself on these podcasts and in the spotlight. If he is exercising his right to speak his opinion in a public space then we are too. How dumb can you be.
@@leleprtk What shitty behaviour? How sad are you?
And once again, we go back to the time honored quote: “Men will do everything, but go to therapy”
He said he went to therapy over the years and found grounding techniques really useful for his anxiety?
Therapy is just for women who want to hear what they want to hear. Stop pushing therapy to solve your dumb social problems.
@@d6d6d6d61yeah, you only fix/ work on what you actually want to in therapy
He went to therapy and spoke about how it positively impacted his life many times. People really do be speaking on what they don't know ey
This quippy nonsense never takes into consideration the fact that the average middle class American literally can't afford therapy. Unless you have a diagnosable mental illness, chances are your insurance won't cover you seeing a shrink.
Cole has been a pretentious faux-intellectual for years lmao his Tumblr days are a great example of this.
he was WAY more openly uhhhh... let's say "cringe about race" back then, so at least he's grown on that front?
or maybe he just doesn't talk to black women anymore, if its not in the script 👀
one or the other, depending on how charitable you wanna be
@@elen5871 What has he said about black women? spill the teaaa
literally the entire time I was watching this I was thinking "wow he hasn't changed at all from his pseudo intellectual tumblr social experiment era"
I only saw his insta back then when Riverdale premiered, it was his photography mostly, it was beautiful but he always captioned it with pretensious words similar as in that video lol
If you think about it Cody was very similar to Cole
him looking right at a woman and telling her what women want was insane😭
i mean ive hated him for years and still do but women say stuff like this all the time too (what men want etc) so i think its ok for him to have a perception of what women like based on his experience as well.
@Win Win i mean yeah i understand but i think anyone saying ''women this'' or ''men that'' are basing off their own experience, but also what is culturally dominant knowledge in society, what people say etc
@@lucasouza889 except that men are socialized in a way that harms women directly so it's very different. Women have to constantly be on the look out for men's behaviors and simultaneously present ourselves a certain way. While men don't care about their own presentation and not do women as a majority seek to hurt them.
Men are our predators currently so we do know their behaviors for the most part. You can't just flip the genders and make it seem like we're all on equal ground, when it's the complete opposite.
@@lucasouza889that’s not the point she’s trying to make bro. This is very ‘not all men’ of you.
The bit where he mocked kids who went into acting cause they wanted to and had parents who were trying to be supportive is the weirdest part for me lmao
that was so awful because he's clearly mocking like the typical effeminate theater kid as if it was a bad thing, not like a deep and tortured artist like himself ig 🙄
yeah he needs therapy real bad😭cuz why is he making fun of kids who got to choose that life? like sorry you didn’t but let’s not make fun of the kids who also got traumatized from the industry simply bc it was their passion🤷🏽♀️
He looks depressed nowdays...he seems different, probably his break up hit hard or it was something else before that, he talked about his mom being narcissit recently on another podcast
He needs help
I read it mostly as him talking about how you have a different attitude when working for your survival vs having all your needs met and doing something because you love it. Looking back it was pretty pretentious the way he went about it though.
in very many ways, i never knew such depths of pretentiousness could exist
In very many ways!
Is pretentiousness a new word you learned today surfing through the comments?
@@maaria7332 nope! :)
@@maaria7332 pretentious is a pretty common word which most people know, stop being condescending and looking down on people. Just because Cole acts smarter than he is doesn’t mean you need to as well just because you’re a fan of him.
@@maaria7332 pretentious isn't an uncommon word...
"Everyone loves bullies, especially women in high school" As a woman who was severely bullied by men in high school, screw you cole sprouse.
Right, this is so harmful, there can never be a "good" bully omfg
and he was homeschooled anyway so wtf would he know
Also, like, didn't Brenda Song said in an interview that Dylan was super sweet and that actually Cole was the mean one?
Yeah, I don't remember a single time in my life bullying wasn't a massive and immediate turn off.
I think he was trying to say that girls apparently like boys who bully other boys, however he’s completely failing to consider the fact that plenty of boys bully girls as well. He seems to think the only victims of male bullies are other boys.
Cole Sprouse is me when I haven’t read the text book and the professor asks me to explain my thoughts on the assigned pages. Just BS the whole thing 😂
Exactly
Lmao
i did this in my AP Lit class in senior yr of HS because i had gone thru something traumatic and was extremely high for the second semester, and. although i LOVED reading and writing (have literally based my life on it) and she picked amazing novels for us… i had to rush thru them, sparknote even the ones i read cuz i didn’t remember them, etc. and she saw right through my big word pseudointellectual essays, especially cuz she had seen my sober ones. you can’t bullshit a real intellectual with those big words if you’re only summarizing the details you’re discussing 😂
When Cole said, "if I had loved myself a little more," I involuntarily snorted with laughter. Yes, that was clearly the problem.
he seems to love himself enough
Bro snarled
reminds me of my narcissistic mom, who for therapy goes through what she could've done better every day, and it is never anything other than "i should've been kinder to myself"
@@adolin.kholin if you think narcissistic people really love themselves you don’t understand narcissism. They actually don’t. They pretend to in order to talk themselves into thinking that. They don’t feel self love tho.
@@CherryJuli This isn't about if they love themselves. It's about her inability to admit to flaws and hide behind "I have to be kind to myself" to avoid any and all behavior actually harmful to her environment that she would have to admit to otherwise. Whether they love themselves or not has nothing to do with that.
I suppose the moral of the story is: in very many ways, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
man
too soon
In very many ways, but in one way in particular, I would have to say that you’re right
😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
Cole seems like he's still in Cody's character, being the cocky, smart, pretentious brother, and Dylan is still in Zack's character, being the cool brother.
The difference is Cody was actually smart, Cole is just pretending to be and failing
Lol fr
Perhaps it influenced their personalities in in some sort of weird subliminal way
you do relise those charaters were created based off them right
"He oozes guy who tried shrooms for the first time and has just discovered empathy". Never have I felt so simultaneously targeted yet amused by a sentence.
Ive been thinking this for years. So many podcasting dudes who love mushrooms and like, I get it, it made big changes for them. But they think doing shrooms casually with their buddies is a replacement for therapy and self work.
Shrooms was the starting point for me to shake up all the patterns of thinking and behavior I had gotten stuck in. To actually be the person I want to be and break old habits has been a lot of work since then and its a lot more boring than doing shrooms. Its worth it though.
This is an actual saying. This podcast RUclips guy didn’t make it up. Also, shrooms just make me jittery and sleepy at the same time.
Ahaha let us know what is was like. The shrooms and the empathy.
That’s really interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I’m in the same situation. Done loads of therapy, meditate every day for my anxiety etc. Went on a facilitated retreat a while back and it was huge complement (not replacement) to all the “regular” brainwork I do.
Idubbbz
Cole seems like that one kid in class, who uses so many fancy words to answer a question, yet with so little meaning.
He’s like a walking thesaurus
Just admit that your vocabulary is limited to that of a 5th grader! Why you gotta be so mean
@@FireyCurls22 I bet you have never opened a dictionary in your life
That’s how lawyers talk.
@@maaria7332 they are pointing out that the way Cole speaks is intentionally verbose and convoluted, that doesn’t mean that they haven’t opened a dictionary before. Using big, obscure words for no reason doesn’t automatically make you smart, especially if it sounds forced and unnatural.
In very many ways, my worst nightmare would be sitting next to this man on a long plane ride
😂😂😂😂😂
He is the guy at a house party at 4am I avoid like the plague cause he's speaking utter "profound" shit.
😂The ones that pretend to be deep to get in your pants are the worst. They're the ones that would spin everything & act like you're not as evolved as them to even be attached in the least, to even expect to be treated like a decent human after hooking up. I had a flat mate that acted that he was so evolved that's why he could sleep around & not get attached.
Yes😂
@@izabelaR not even into my pants, just the one who makes me realise I should have left earlier when I first thought to 😂
I avoid parties period, that’s where the trash @
Despite all the jokes and memes he just strikes me as someone who thinks they’ve dealt with their trauma but very clearly hasn’t and uses intelligence to try mask it.
Being forced to be a child actor and having and addict as a mom isn’t childhood trauma? I agree that he is a bit pretentious but who are you to assume that someone else does not have trauma?
@@anjalimaziarz4750 Read my comment again please. Thats not what I said 😊
@Ttt How so?
@Ttt Apologies it seems my comment wasnt easy to understand so im sorry I wasnt more clear. I have nothing against intelligence at all. I agree with your comment “why cant they just be smart” thats kind of my point. It comes off as though his intellegence is his entire personality rather than just a part of who he is. I dont know the man so I could be wrong about him but thats just how it comes off to me. Im not academic in anyway but I have nothing against people who are. I dislike people who act like their intelligence makes them better than other people, like how he was talking about two types of acting kids and such.
Hope this clears things up a bit. I have no issue with people just because of their intelligence 😊
Performative intelligence
thank you so much for putting the clips from the two different podcasts side-by-side because it made me realize how in the podcast that is for a female audience lead by a woman he is giving off this cool aloof guy vibe (or trying to rather). And in the podcast led by a man he’s trying to appear more goofy and relatable
Lmao I didn’t notice that. Methinks he had a crush on Alex hahaha
Cole referring to Vancouver as "a foreign city" is, I suppose technically true, but SO hilarious.
We literally sound alike in accent, the only thing different is learning french in some parts not all of canada,food, tim Hortons,fast food chains, and that thankfully y'all take refugees, and saying sawrey instead of sawree and the homeless have better chances of getting government help to not be homeless lol which is terrible in America
@@pandulce4447 Vancouver doesn't speak an ounce of French that's the irony. It's so similar except the restaurants have different names.
@@pandulce4447 bro that is absolutely untrue, Canada has a homeless population of over 200,000 while the USA is at 700,000 max at the extreme end of the estimate, the USA has a population that is almost 10 times larger than Canada. The majority of the homeless population in the USA literally has access to an abundance of options, the difference is that these options require one to stop using drugs, report to a case manager, maintain employment, etc.
@@tb8654 I'm not saying homeless people have any more advantage over Canadian homeless but y'all have universal healthcare that helps with getting healthcare better than American Medicare which makes people scared of not getting insulin pretty soon copays will make them stay in a hospital do to coma's not saying it's okay actually pretty sad
@@tb8654 also I'm a woman lol but thanks for thinking I'm cool enough for bro ranking
I love how he describes Vancouver as a foreign city as if they were struggling with language barriers, and major cultural differences. Bro probably tried Tim Hortons once and said it was too exotic for him.
Idk what Tim Hortons is but lol.
Thank you cause I was ctfu when he said “foreign city” like sir…you were in Canada please calm down 😭
@@izabelaR It's a coffee shop/restaurant chain named after a Canadian hockey player lol.
@@izabelaR think of Starbucks or Dunkin’ Donuts but Canadian
It's probably true because these days, Timmie's coffee ain't it😃
I work with cancer patients and a lot of my work is education and prevention. It’s so ridiculous that pseudointellectuals see cigarettes as some kind of indicator of intelligence when they’re literally just poisoning you slowly…. And he’s inflicting his secondhand smoke on other people in the room. Honestly to me that is the grossest part of this whole thing. You just don’t smoke inside, even if your host tells you its “okay”…..
Totally agree, I was shocked.
Yeh lol
absolutely i always think they're total idiots
I feel like Jaden Smith and him together on a podcast would be suuuuuuuuper “enlightening”.
In very many ways
@@daisyo.6666😂
Cole Sprouse today is what 7 years of playing a pretentious dweeb on TV will do to you
@@raven_moonshine39 please never bring up tumblr era cole sprouse again
@@raven_moonshine39 the chameleon ring, because you see, in very many ways, HE is a chameleon!
Maybe his partners all end up "cheating" on him because they're confused why he doesn't have his iconic hat on. You never see him without that hat, after all...he's weird...he's a weirdo.
Only 7 years? Man, Cody Martin was doing this shit back in 2005!
@@raven_moonshine39 Cody from the suite life was also a pretentious dweeb though
I watched him in the Diary of a CEO and he didn't sound this conceited and snobbish. LOL He acknowledges that he's narcissistic and seeks validation like his mother. I heard that if you grow up with a narcissist there's a high probability that you'll become one.
It gives me hope to see someone so hopelessly unaware of their own pretentiousness because I'm SUPER aware of mine and it gives me such anxiety lmao
I find the more people scream about how aware they are the less it seems to be true 🤷
Exactly, the fact you even say that reveals that you probably do not. Just check yourself without comparing yourself to someone and thinking “At least I’m not THAT bad.” That’s, you guessed it, pretentious too.
I wouldn't pay much mind to these replies. You seem to be self-aware and I'm sorry you struggle with anxiety! Best of luck on your own journey :)
I mean this sincerely, you should try mushrooms!
So stop then
The fact that he’s saying word for word the same thing at every podcast is so embarrassing to me I was CRINGING SO HARD
he can’t go off script because he doesn’t know enough big words off the top of his head
It’s like he thought nobody would listen to them. What a tool
Well he’s an actor, he prepared a script and is peddling it around.
He's been doing this since his tumblr time lol
It feels so gross!
i've known many people like this (and have been traumatised by one of them) but he does strike me as someone who feels the need to mask the trauma he feels with pseudo intellectual bullshit. i've been this person and known this person (english literature degree things) but preaching self-awareness while not actively doing the work has been the biggest and hardest lesson of my early 20s. i hope he ends up being okay and comes to recognize this in himself.
as someone with mom trauma, part of me understands Cole’s the urge to overcompensate & try to prove himself as ‘an intellectual’, ‘a tortured artist’ etc. His family dynamic combined with the trauma of acting his whole childhood though… I can’t even imagine how that has affected his self-concept & attachment style.
That said, he comes off extremely entitled, lacks SO MUCH accountability & speaks of others in the most condescending ways possible.
There’s a difference between being self-aware and working through your trauma with self-awareness. He knows that his past has damaged his confidence & more recent relationships, but it’s clear he has loads to work through.
You missed a key opportunity to call it “mama trauma”
@@sociallyawkwardmukbangs1909 Better, momma trauma, which also rhymes
What exactly does he need to be held accountable for? Sure he did some immature things over the years but so does everybody, he just so happened to be in the limelight during the worst parts of his life. People these days love to take the moral highground and judge people like they are supposed to be some perfect form of existence, meanwhile the guy in this video is easily as pretentious as the one he makes a video about…
@@matt928 Well said, and I totally agree. I'm old enough to be Cole Sprouse's mother, and from my perspective he's just a young adult trying his best to be a decent person, while also dealing with a traumatic childhood in which he was forced to be his mother's puppet. Yes, it does seem at times that he's trying a bit too hard with the big words and all, but I watched another podcast he was on (not this one) and found that he's honest and willing to admit his flaws. And you hit the nail on the head, the maker of this video is a complete hypocrite, and comes across as a much bigger A-hole than Cole.
@@avamyst70 yeah the memes after Cole talking about his mom were pretty crass … I don’t even have Mom issues but I know better than to make fun of them.
Now I unironically want to quit smoking cigarettes. Thanks for making it look so uncool Cole.
😂
lmfao
A win is a win
I just know he made the whole room stink of smoke
@@tee1796 Ikr, I wouldn't be surprised if the walls started turning yellow too!
“This is how a film bro who is a little too into ‘La la land’ and doesn’t reciprocate oral dresses for a formal occasion” I YELLED
him smoking those cigarettes is just so embarrassing
Some people just make it look cool. He is not some people.
He did Riverdale for years. Man has no shame.
When did this become embarrassing? Many celebrities have done this including cigars even in interviews.
@mistywindy and they're embarrassing when they do. He's trying to make it artsy.
He thinks smoking is a flex🤦♀️🤣
he’s either so invested in method acting for Jughead or he’s just that out of touch
You could be right! I sense it too
hes been like that way before jughead. even had a tumblr where he would say all of this pretentious shit and then at the end said it was a social experiment and called everyone an idiot for following him. he truly believes that hes smarter and above everyone else, he has like this idea of himself that he attempts to play out but its so transparent and needy that its so difficult to listen or even look at, i obviously cant stand him but now, in this media area where we are way to overexposed to celebrities and they just wont shut up... its a lot clearer to see for everyone else too :)
i really had always assumed i was just being a hater despite loving the show (suite) but now... well, you know the rest
@@lizz9896 he needs to be humbled big time
@@lizz9896 I've only started watching the show recently, as I don't think I'm the target audience for it (I'm 38), but Nancy Drew ended & Sabrina ended, so I turned to Riverdale (after I saw Sabrina on it). I need to try to not hate Jughead to get through it. 😂
@@izabelaR Why do people care whether or not this person uses big words or is an ‘intellectual’? Lol I’m close to your age so maybe I’m just out of the loop but I don’t get the Cole hate. Seems to be all petty immature stuff for the most part.
The fact that he smokes Marlboro lights says a lot about him.
I think the main issue with how he talks about himself is even when he is talking about his faults and issues he has to phrase it in almost an attractive, brooding, tortured artist way so even his faults are attractive.
It gives off a very Angel in season 1 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer energy but doesn't work as well when you're not a vampire and also when its your actual personality and not a character.
Captain Forehead is too good for that comparison. Lol
I hated Angel sm in S1. Explains my feelings towards Sprouse now.
Can you give an example of how Angel in the vampire slayer made it look attractive, that’s different from Cole??
Oh my god absolutely brilliant comparison
@@DanniBby cause David Boreanez is a whole snack compared to Sprouse heh.
I find this hyper-intellectual character he’s playing especially funny considering he’s literally on a call her daddy podcast 💀
lol best comment
I don't think he's playing a character I think because he's constantly playing characters like this that's just his actual personality now
every time he said “in very many ways” i lost a bit of myself
“Harmless bully” is an oxymoron. It’s like saying “benevolent tyrant”. She might say this just to be polite. It’s even illogical for anyone to say everyone loves the bully; unless they are the bully themselves and have not attained the minimum mental capacity to ascertain their own treatment of others constitutes a narcissistic trait.
He is saying it wrong, he meant that people love the bully who is the attractive bad guy, girls do tend to go for the bad guys because they like the risk, feel protected and excuse his behavior because he’s so good looking and selfish, they want his validation.
@@DanniBby being a bad boy is something else than being a bully though. not every bad guy is a bully and not every bully is a bad guy. infact, most male bullies are just insecure kids who chose to feel better about themselves by structurally hurting people.
the fact that cole couldn't take 1 hour off of smoking and the bigger fact that he definitely thought it would make him look cool and edgy makes me want to walk into a desert never to return
Most heavy smokers need to smoke at least once an hour. I know Cole is trying to look more cool than he actually is, but it's not his constant smoking that makes that evident, it's the fact that he keeps on drawing attention to it
It’s nice to smoke when you’re chatting you people are so weird and nitpick anything
Most smokers smoke more when they are having conversations.. and if he really smokes outside of the podcast then I'm sure he isn't smoking "just to look cool" haha plus this isnt the 80s no one thinks smoking is cool anymore. It's all about the vape now.😂
@@Gorgeoustweaker as an ex smoker, i can see he isn't actually smoking the cig. Mans takes 3 hits and just waits in between for it to go out. The way he is blowing the smoke isn't like a "habit" which smokers just puff and that's it, he moves his lips in different directions, like plays around with the smoke ? As well as the inhaling is short? Its like making smoking aesthetic.
@@morkute25 exactly, bro ain’t even ghosting the cig like a #real#smoker
Dylan, darling, I'm so sorry this clown is going around being embarrassing with your face.
Seeing him smoke made me quit smoking immediately
I've seen so many videos recently praising him and this is the exact type of Cole Sprouse slander I was looking for thank you for your service
Right! I was starting to think I was just being a ‘mean girl’ but I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one cringing!
@Gaia Gyal he has a history of being emotionally abusive towards his exes so you definitely shouldn't feel mean
Lol 😂
😂😂
It's not slander if it's true
cole sprouse is literally a real life jughead jones "in case you haven't notice I'm weird I'm a weirdo"
“i don’t fit in. and i don’t wanna fit in.”
Wellll I guess that’s why he got the role
Let's all just give him a break. He's weird. He's a weirdo lol.
Have you ever seen him without that cigarette? That's weird.
Period
Cole Sprouse gives me the ick in oh so very many ways. Let's all hope he never discovers the word "plethora".
😂😂😂 not the word plethoraaaa
😂
Dead 😂
HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAAHA this got me
“In a plethora of ways”
in very many ways, I appreciate you editing those one thousand clips together
in very many ways, I appreciate this comment
bestie ur efforts for not go to waste,,, the shirt pulled in exactly the right way it was a welcome and handsome cosplay wooo
Cole gives "name 3 songs" vibes.
I was also quite weirded out when he basically tried to write off the allegations of mistreatment at Disney basically as rich kids whining. He's dripping in false intellectualism, and ends up coming across as completely ignorant.
the smoking 4 cigarettes in a small closed room is all I need to know about this guy
One cigarette was already pushing it 🤢
Which is what?lmaoooo
ON A WHITE COUCH
i'm willing to bet that more than half of the people complaining about him smoking cigarettes are the same people who can't get through the day without smoking weed. it's the exact same but now it's becoming more socially acceptable to smoke weed while smoking cigarettes has become more socially unacceptable. if you can accept someone smoking weed then you can get over yourself when someone smokes a cigarette. both are harmful to your body.
“seeprevious is my favorite robot from Star Wars” took me OUT
the tiktokification of like literally every form of media has to end I’m so serious
speaking facts
Sorry but the bit about almost all of his former partners "cheating him emotionally" to me sounds like the cherry on a narcissistic cake. Like, what are the parameters? Did they all have romantic non sexual affairs? Did they dare have a trusted confidant who wasn't him? Did they dare roll their eyes at the 10000th time he said (edit) "in very many ways"
Yes I agree. He very much seems like he could be narcissistic. He's very self absorbed & I can imagine he was selfish & cold in those relationships. He said they were strongly sexual & not really emotional. For him. They probably felt used & empty. I dated his type.
Cole saying that your 20's are all mistakes is really funny. Buddy, these podcasts are your BIGGEST (other than Riverdale) your biggest mistakes.
cole sprouse is that one kid in your honors English class. you know who I'm talking about.
Truuuuuuuu
I probably dated that guy. 😂 Well my ex was pretty pretentious like this. We only dated 2 months.
@@izabelaR you broke up with him because he didn't reciprocate oral? 😂
Him forcing himself to look cool with a cigarette while using big words is what gets me 😂
People on here acting like they have any idea what his life growing up was like and judging him without any knowledge is pretty stupid tbh
There’s nothing I despise more than people using big complicated words to explain something just to sound smart. Being smart it’s not based on how eloquent you sound, it’s based on the capability of making yourself understood. Like my professor in college that was able to explain to us complicated texts in a way we understood. At least that’s my opinion, didn’t know cole was such an ass
Wholeheartedly agree 1000%. I've dated this type, so I fell for this bs that they were smarter than me. They sort of manipulate others around them this way. They can fake that you're connecting, where a connection isn't there. They have massive insecurity & massive chip on their shoulder.
Yes!! Rhetoric has nothing to do with how stylish the words you use are, but of how you command language and string it together. It’s more impactful when something meaningful is simply put than when something simple is meaningfully put.
bruh “i try to approach everything with a kind of logos that allows me to think more clearly about what i do. which can be offputting to some people because not a lot of people like being met… with logos” bro just said “i value being logical”
Nothing Cole said was complicated tho it was actually pretty easy to understand and I barely graduated highschool. It’s not Cole’s job to cater to unarticulated people that struggle to finish the first page of a book without having a stroke 😭
@@nolanrice2016 ohhh so you’re one of those type of people
Cole Sprouse is the embodiment of $50 words for a $2 conversation
I laughed a little too hard at this.....Lol!!!!!!!
Perfectly said!
LOL FR
He’s the epitome of “I’m not like other boys…”
Other boys are not pretentious and act normal, so yeah he’s not like other boys.
he’s done a lot worse than just being a cringey pretentious asshole. he was very emotionally abusive to one of his past girlfriends and she’s been very open about it, but everytime she talks about the abuse she faced his stans attack her and call her a liar. i feel like he’s doing this podcast tour and talking about his traumatic childhood so people feel bad for him and talk about that instead of the fact that he’s an abuser. so many abusers use these tactics and the fact that a lot of people have fallen for it isn’t surprising.
To be fair it's not a good look airing your ex's dirty laundry to the world. It's also pretty likely she isn't 100% innocent that's just not how these things work
@@snoozyq9576 yes but I think you’re confusing complaining about an ex vs speaking out against abuse they faced. One is airing out dirty laundry “he had awful smelly feet” another is speaking out against abuse they endured.
@@snoozyq9576 abuse isn’t something you should shame people for speaking out on. You wouldn’t tell a woman who was a victim of domestic abuse to “stop airing out dirty laundry”
@@snoozyq9576it's not at all true that no one can be 100% innocent wtf
@@snoozyq9576 just curious In elderly/child/sexual abuses cases would you say “well there’s no way that the abused is 100% innocent?”. Abuse is abuse. You don’t sit there and discount the abuse because the abused is a human being aka NOT 100% innocent
in very many ways, cole sprouse does actually have intelligence... unfortunately he uses it to sound like an AI who was only fed C+ college dissertations before being asked questions
I don't know, I think it sounds like someone who thinks they're smart, who *tries to be smart*, reads a lot, but isn't actually clever, doesn't actually have the mental capacity
@Ttt i have an issue w ppl who are smarter than me 😩 i will not move on tho
The ptoblem with our society is that we ourselves are not smart and when we see an ACTUAL smart person like Cole we go like "Omg! He's trying so hard to be smart". If you look into him you'll understand how smart and well spoken he is and tbh i listened to both the podcasts on call her daddy and the diary of a ceo and i didn't find ANYTHING wrong in what he said. She pushed him to tell what happened with him and Lili so ge had to fucking answer. Whereas i think the other diary if a ceo podcast was just great. I got to see him being him. Grow up people
It all stems from a lack of secureness in their own intelligence. When they see someone who actually knows how to articulate their thoughts well and is able to display a wide vocabulary to convey the specifics of that, people naturally become intimidated by them. The truth is that he is actually an intelligent guy, but everyone wants to follow the sheep mindset and believe otherwise to elevate their own ego.
Every time I see Cole Sprouse, I feel like I'm being haunted by the ghost of my douchey teen years.
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Oh lord..😂😂😂!!
A person's verbal tick can say a lot about them. For example, mine is that I'd add 'you know what I mean?' at the end of my sentences, which checks out because I grew up with middle-child syndrome and I'm always concerned if I'm actually being heard and understood. Cole's tick 'in very many ways' shows how desperately he tries to give himself layers. Not just in one way like you plebs, in VERY MANY ways!! See, I'm complex, guys!
Omg that’s so funny, I never noticed that I’m myself or others but now I’m gonna see if I can’t psychoanalyze my friends based off theres 😂
Why do you guys love to psychoanalyze people who you quite frankly- don’t know personally…
my mother end hers with, "what youo think about that". What does that say about her?
OH MY GOD YES I AM THE MIDDLE CHILD TOO I CAN RELATE , I really need to work on it .
@Ttt how do you not understand what they mean, they clearly explained it?
I hate that Cole Sprouse referred to his mom's mental health/physical health crises as her losing her mind. I don't think it's the most offensive ableist line but it's still hurtful.
Get over yourself
To speak from another side, he admitted to mom trauma/issues. And I don’t fault a young adult for still having anger or using extreme language toward their abusive caretaker.
Um I say that about myself and my mother, we both have mental illness. Calm down.
@p1ysaucedo I have mental illness and I find "she lost her mind" offensive. You calm down.
@@ripley2995 I have a lot of compassion for him and everyone who's had bad relationships with their family members. It's really good that Cole Sprouse has chosen not to heal from his trauma all by himself but I still find his language offensive, as a person with mental health problems myself.
I think Cole should bring back his Tumblr account, I just think it would be good for the culture.
lmao dude please NO he revived his camera duels account on insta and reading the caption actually killed off the last of my brain cells, i cannot relive the tumblr trauma in 2023 i'm not stable enough
@@ewllen808 I used to like camera duels because I thought he was self-aware and it was all a joke. After watching this I think the one word he DOESNT know is satire
@@kaileytaylor4518 unfortunately u are so correct. i used to think the same thing. like when i was younger i thought this man was so intelligent and now i realize he has no idea what he's talking about ever, he just desperately wants to look cool so badly. kinda sad honestly
@Ttt i was still following the ig account, this came up in my recommended. i do not spend every waking moment of my life thinking about cole sprouse
My honest response to Cole's recent podcast appearances is that I resonated with his experiences surrounding his mother, and I recognised his awareness in how that relationship impacted him. On the other hand, this reaction video reassured me that I do not need to use big words to make a meaningful point. I felt a bit self-conscious about my own communication skills after watching Cole on The Diary of a CEO. When people present themselves with a pretentious vocabulary, this might create an unnecessary insecurity in the person listening (which it did in me!). Lastly, although it's entertaining to criticise Cole, I don't want to be quick to judge him. He has issues like the rest of us and all we can do is hope for his growth as a person.
I was searching for a grounded comment like this. The comment section seems so intent on judging this guy for his appearance and mannerisms. I’ve just started the video so perhaps more light is shed on his character in this but so far it just seems judgemental.
you put my thoughts into words, thanks homie
Yeah the thing that didn't sit right with me during that interview/podcast also was when he said something along the lines of "not aligning with being a victim" because it was "silly to align with victimhood". Bro. You were a kid who was a victim of narcissistic abuse? It's important to acknowledge that and accept that you had no control over that as a child. It doesn't make you weaker to accept that.
He then goes on to say it's because he thinks trauma exists to make you wiser, and that's how you gain wisdom to be the great person you are today. You know that wisdom can also be passed down from loving, caring parents whose love is unconditional?
Originally I was resonating with his story too, because my own mother essentially has borderline personality disorder (which is the 'other' one next to narcissism with slightly different cause/symptoms) and I know exactly how it feels to be that "extension of the parent" and only good for fulfilling that person's need.
But something about what he said about choosing victimhood didn't sit right with me and what you said encapsulates a lot of what I've been thinking.
Also sending hugs to you because NPD/BPD parents are a handful ❤️
@@averylfong4843 I get what your saying, I perceived his statement of rejecting victimhood as more like he’s choosing to grow from it rather than living in that victim mentality. My mother also has bpd and she plays the victim card for everything, even when my dad died who she was 10 yrs divorced from it was all about her. This has made me also strongly reject victim mentality and focus on learning from these negative experiences. Not that I was never a victim and I don’t think he meant that either. I could be wrong but that’s just my perspective.
Using pretentious language is almost always meant to make the speaker feel intellectual in this context. There's places to use it. In professional settings you'll probably use proper language and big words but in a casual podcast?
There's a time and place for things and if you speak like you're trying to reach a word count or you're writing an email to your English professor to your average person then regardless of whether that person knows those words or not it will make you seem like an unpleasant person. It comes across like you're trying to use big uncommon words so the person will not understand and you'll get the satisfaction of explaining yourself and feeling smarter and above them by doing so. It's pretentious and you look insecure.
You shouldn't feel that "unnecessary insecurity" because that was the intention. You should feel annoyed that he's making you feel that way and if you meet someone who does that irl then you should tell them to speak plainly. It might feel rude but if they get offended then they are pretentious and we're doing it on purpose and if they accept the criticism them maybe in the future they'll remember and will come across more likable and approachable.
Loved this video, especially after skimming through The Diary of a CEO. Your insights are bang on and witty. Loved it.
I cringed so hard at “weird alchemy of addiction.” Not sure how much more I can take.
😂😂😂😂
that was definitely the worst part
Anyone who unironically uses the phrase “feast for crows” today should be exiled to the furthest corners of Siberia
yo don’t do the arctic siberians dirty like that😂
Hey man it's a good part in the ASOIAF book series, can't we have that exception?
@@ladydixon9651 When he said "lovecraftian"; all I could think about was Alt Shift X describing Euron Greyjoy 😅
The way Cole talks in this interview is giving Joey Tribbiani using a thesaurus for the first time
The way Cole speaks and his mannerisms reminds me of Robert California from The Office and I'm so scared he'll say "I'm the f.cking lizard king" at any moment now
the quote "if i had loved myself a little more, I probably would have left a little earlier" had me flabbergasted. THE AUDACITY. THE NERVE. How can you say something like that about a person you involved romantically with for years? And saying it was a mutual break-up... Yeah sure cole, we can all pretend that you didn't cheat lili with kaia gerber
and then he literally saying "i left" with no little remorse, hes sick
Didn't she cheated on him? I'm confused now
People do leave toxic relationships when they find more self love, how is that bad?
i actually really don’t think that was a rude thing to say or weird at all, i think you should perhaps do some self reflecting. out of all the things you could have commented on that he said, this is by far the least weird or wrong
Bro. I don't think that's problematic. Plenty of people say the same shit and get praised for it. Why is he any different?
I was brought here by a reference to you on Jaime French's channel and you do not disappoint! This was so great!
In very many ways, this was hard to watch but thank you for your service.
“And that’s all you need to know” abt call her daddy drama is so funny
I wanted to know more😭
It’s so funny because any time I’ve seen Dylan in an interview, which granted is far less frequent, he seems so much more normal. Just weird that they came out so opposite.
he talks like a bad wattpad love interest
"Film bro who's a little too into la la land and doesn't reciprocate oral" is both scary accurate and incredibly funny.
This whole video is very funny and i thank you for sitting through that shit to make it.
In the realm of Aubrey Plaza joking that Bo Burnham could just as easily have been a random guy that explains jazz to you at a party.
Though that was more of an affectionate jibe
Cole sounds like my religious parents trying to gaslight me into thinking I was actually wrong the whole time
I will say I don't think we should give Cole a hard time over how he talks about his experience with his mother. That seems like it was a difficult experience
Totally.
Right I don’t understand these videos just criticizing someone. 🙄 nobody is perfect.
There is such a huge difference between his personality and vibe in the Call her daddy podcast versus the diary of a ceo podcast. I think in the latter there was less tolerance or encouragement of the “too cool for school” pretentiousness or maybe he reflected on the call her daddy podcast and decided to make changes. Cos on the diary of a ceo podcast he speaks more respectively about his exes and is more empathetic about his mom’s situation. I’m not sure why that is (one theory is that one is hosted by a man va the other by a woman) but there is a notable difference.
I think a lot of us go through a pretentious phase in our lives just bc we haven't learned how to be comfortable with ourselves yet. Most of us grow out of that in our early 20s, but Cole is 30 and hasn't yet. I will say that as someone with ADHD, I do get frustrated with my inability to say things in a clear and concise way. I feel like I use too many words because I'm often misunderstood and I want to make sure to get my point across. I don't think that Cole speaks like that bc he has ADHD, but he comes off as an insecure person who feels the need to prove himself. I can relate to that in a way. Even if we over explain for different reasons.
I've never been happier that I was unfazed when everyone was obsessed with him in 2017. Dylan is the only Sprouse I acknowledge. His relationship with his girlfriend is super adorable
unfazed
He also looks good . where I feel like Cole just looks rough tbh 😢
@@Llamacoints Cole's appearance reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic and idk why. Both look a little rough yet pretentious...let's hope Cole doesn't start dating women in their early 20s when he's super old
Dylan and Barbara are just adorable
He really should take a page from his brother's book. It definitely seems like Dylan found healthier ways to deal with his issues and is happier.
Child stars are always interesting. They’re so often pushed into fame by parents with substantial issues (though not always) but then when they make it they’re showered with attention and praise. I think it creates such an odd combination of trauma and self importance.
I completely agree, constant exposure seems to internalize this feeling of self-importance. I feel that since the camera was created by man, people have lost the ability to be genuine. Whenever someone is in front of a camera (and she knows that at least one person is going to see her), the person automatically changes her behavior to attract attention or look like something she values aesthetically. The most genuine people I know are those who didn't grow up in the age of exposure. I mean, if you really like being smart, just study it, man, but nowdays it's not about being, it's about seeming
(English is not my first language)
I have been on dates with guys who act like Cole. Makes me so uncomfortable.
mr beast openly admitting to modelling his online presence after andrew tate sent a shiver up my spine
😩 after I ate this Mr beast burger
and essentially saying "yeah i'm only on your podcast so I can get more exposure". I know that what a lot of people do but to say it this bluntly and then say you got it from tate. Weird.
He didn't do something that tate purposefully did. He saw that tate went on a lot of podcasts and got a lot of exposure from it. He recognized the trend behind the action.
People are so dumb. Just because mr beast used the strategy Andrew Tate did to become more popular doesn’t mean he endorses Andrew Tate views.
@@bentleycoupe8788With a guy as controversial as Andrew Tate, you might want to clarify that or maybe not mention him. He’s a walking red flag. Personally I wouldn’t even want any association with him, and if I had to use a business technique or mention him I’d be pretty clear that he’s a travesty otherwise
THANK YOUUU FOR COMMENTING ON HIS VOCABULARY? every comment i see seems to say he's "so mature" lmao and to me it's so immature because as you showed the sentences often DO NOT MAKE SENSE and he's trying so so hard - I guess he's assuming his audience/interviewers are dumber/younger than him and won't call him on it? like he's trying to be so superior
Sadly I dated some version of this guy 20 yrs ago. 🤦♀️
I’m honestly concerned about him. If anything, I think he’s struggling with some type of mental illness. I hope he gets the help he needs and is able to bounce back from this
I feel like Cole would be the kind to call his gf having male friends or just casually talking to a guy in their class or something emotional cheating.
I didn’t know he was so… weird?…camp?… pretentious? I don’t even know what to call this but it’s funny
i think camp is the best description because i do think he's doing alllll of this on purpose
@Juliana Bohley but I thought camp is supposed to be funny also?
More like hammy than campy because camp's either funny or interesting to look at
I feel like camp implies self-awareness 😭
I think douchey is the word you're looking for.
You ever see someone lack sincerity SO much, you can see the inner workings of the soul they tried to cover up??
very many is redundant. It's just many, and if I hear him say very many again I'm going to want to walk off very many cliffs.
omg you’re so right😭 when he said that I thought it was “many various” but now that I’m seeing your comment I’m realizing that they’re the same word🥲
although it’s redundant i think it has some use when you want to emphasise something, but if you keep repeating it like him it just sounds bad and pretentious like he’s heard someone say it for the first time last week and wants to use it as much as he can lol
Established authors use "very many." It's for emphasis
Yeah, I guess redundant is not the right word, since very and many don't mean the same thing. I meant the "very" is superfluous in the sentence.
He talks like Mathew Gray Gilbert when he was doing the parody video of an entitled actor on the set of Criminal Minds 😭
I'm a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU for this video. I watched this podcast episode yesterday and the entire time I just sat there and thought to myself: 'Wtf is this guy on about??'. But when I started reading comments, I only saw positive feedback on him and how well articulated he is, which made me furious because for me personally, it just came across as pretentious. so thank you for validating my viewpoint on this, haha