This is so true tho. No matter how many times I tell my siblings to knock before they enter my room, they just keep on waltzing right in like they own the place
Amusing as hell but he did leave it open. I usually just knock if its closed or barely open. Makes sense. There are moments i still knock even when open.
Thea: “you gotta let me in. You gotta let someone in.” It took 7 seasons and I rewatched this scene at least 100 times. It just hit me that maybe the reason Oliver told diggle that’s he’s the green arrow because he took theas advice
Oliver, I know you were marooned on an island, dying, and obviously horribly tortured, but it was even worse for me.... I was looooonely! God I hated how self-centered Thea was in the beginning.
Same. I was constantly amazed by how insensitive Thea was. Oliver's back a week, and understandably does not feel like reliving the never ending nightmare of a life he lived. Instead of respecting that, she tells him she felt closer to him when he was "dead". Yep, lets all just tell Oliver that we wish he was dead even though he finally came home after five years. Good plan everybody. It's really no wonder Oliver completely shut off for a while.
Kenton Scott well you can't really blame her she was 12 and she lost her brother and father and she didn't have anyone's support considering her mum stopped talking and Moría found Walter later on.
Maseleine Grey You can blame her because when he gets back, she’s 17. A 17 year old should have at least the slightest social skills to know right from wrong.
It's only upon rewatches of early scenes like this one that I realize that while on the surface Thea's actions appear to be those of a self centered, spoiled brat, what's really happening is that she's acting out because she's in pain. She's spent the last 5 years trying to learn to live without her big brother, who'd been there for her all her life, because everyone thought he was dead. And then she gets him back, but he's not the brother she remembers, the one that she lost. He's quieter, and more withdrawn, and he's clearly in ten different kinds of pain but won't let anyone help him. And so she's angry because she feels helpless, because she wants to help Oliver but she can't because he won't let her in.
that's a really good point. thank you for your perspective. I do think that Thea should have been a little bit more careful about what she said to him though. The whole family really needed some training on how to deal with Oliver's state. He doesn't want to talk about it for a reason. He should have been in therapy and they should have been taught how to behave around him.
@@4everbuffylover His family members- and Laurel, for that matter- could have stood to take some lessons from Dig and Felicity about that. They both clearly wanted to know about what had happened to Oliver, but they also saw that he wasn't at a place where he felt like he could talk about it yet, so they both accepted that when he was ready to talk about it, he would, so they left it alone and didn't push him to relive his trauma before he was ready.
@@Ari-el3xl exactly. I mean at this point, he'd only been home a week. After 5 years fighting for his life. Even if they assume he's been alone on an island for five years, that still means he hasn't had contact with anybody and would have trouble making the adjustment. Knowing what we know about what he was actually enduring makes it all so much worse. He probably just really didn't want to talk about all the screwed up things he had to do to survive, partially because of how guilty he feels about them. I kind of think part of the reason he got so close to Digg and Felicity is because they didn't push him. They just accepted him for who he was instead of wanting to get back the old "Ollie Queen".
As an older brother, the last scene hits me hard. I've watched barely any of this show, but I still remember this. I know my sister truly loves and cares about me, and we talk occasionally but we've haven't been close in years now. And its mostly my fault. I feel bad because she's missed out on all those moments and conversations you can only have with your big brother. There are a lot of mental demons I deal with that have made me withdraw. It might be to the point where she thinks I don't care about her, but I do. I have to let someone in, let someone know what's wrong. But I haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I hope someday I can.
He never did tell anyone much about his 5 years. I don't think he told anyone about the torture. It seemed like maybe he told Dig about the freighter. We know that Felicity knows he was in Hong Kong and Russia but sounds like he pretty much just said he was there and it sucked. And he let slip to Felicity when they were on the plane to Nanda Parbat that he had been home to Starling during those 5 years.
@@aliciaborth3016 the torture was actually brought up during the lie detecter scene in season 1. So both Laurel and Quinten knew about it, but I don't recall it ever being actually brought up again after that.
And Oliver's completely emotionless response is perfect. Realistic for someone who went through hell on an island, and the purposeful distance because of being the hood. He really cared more about the hood when he came home than family, other than Thea. Edit: After watching the rest of the show, his emotionlessness and reaction to his scars makes even more sense. Dude was tortured for a week in Russia and again the day he was "rescued"!
@@laisensei6984 been a while since they went into it. There is a whole different setting now. Also a future one where felicity is rich due to the programs she made. Pretty sure the queen company still exists after season 5. It's also clear he has no issues affording anything he needs. Sorry that it's not more specific but it's been a while since it was brought up and it's really not all that important to the current story
Oliver and Thea >> Alex and Kara. I love Kara to bits, and I think her and Alex have probably the most non-toxic, pure relationship in the arrowverse, but Oliver and Thea man. All arrow fans were robbed of screentime with them alone. Whenever they were on screen, just the 2 of them, it was just brilliant.
Bro i have a question did tommy khew that thea was his sister because in 1x1 tommy tells oliver that thea is sexy and rewaching it is like damm because they are brothers.
Now the show is in season 8, which is the last season. It's amazing how far the show has come even with the downsides and how much Thea has grown up and became a warrior herself.
That got me too. How could they even think they would get that goofy idiot back after being marooned for 5 years? Both Thea and Moira knew about the scars and that really should have been more than enough to cause them to accept the emotional distance and the fact he was gone a lot, the man had no people around him for 5 years (that we knew).
yeah but what kind of pizza? i personally love cheese, pepperoni, meatlovers, Canadian and pretty much anything without mushrooms, pineapple, tomatoes, spinach and things like that,i love pizza ☺️
Ignore mom, avoid Walter, and JUDGE ME! Yes how dare you, my older sibling, criticize me for making the same mistakes you did when you definitely know why they were bad
Just like Laurel later. Saying things like "That's rich. Thea Queen lecturing me about drinking too much." Or saying Lance was a hypocrite since he was a drunk too. Ignoring the fact that those things are bad and that's why they don't do it anymore and instead focus on trying to make it OK for her because they did the same thing once.
Oh God!I really hate that kind of young siblings who're so nosy the way,even if you went to the literal Hell and came back,want to know everything!and in the end make everything about themselves such as "You Treat Me Like A Kid" and really don't get maybe somethings are really hard to explain because by explaining you're forced to think about it and by thinking about it just remember the pain!Thea has been rude to her Oliver ever since the first night he came back and in here doesn't give a damn that maybe he doesn't want to think about those memories and that's why he doesn't want to explain and making it like it's her problem!
These were different scenes. It's slightly confusing because the first scene ends with Diggle leaving the living room and the next scene starts with Diggle leaving the living room.
I really hope DC make Thea canon in the comics She's already semi-canon for her character was loosly based off Mia Dearden Oliver in the comics is alot lighthearted and playful But having a little sister like Thea would enrich his character DC major superheroes are almost all only child Plus, Thea is amazing She could be the second speedy after Roy Like Jason to Dick
She definitely snuck out before and she needs to know how to change fast to not get caught. And since the actress seems to be able to do it, it’s realistic,
They are different scenes. It's just confusing because the first scene ends with everyone walking away and the second scene starts with Diggle walking away.
@@SteveRogers0768 It was probably easiest to open up to Diggle because he didn't have to worry about being thought of as "broken" like he did with civilians. Diggle was in combat and knows about scars and the right way to talk about them or ignore them. One of their early training scenes they were talking very matter of fact with light probing by Diggle, and he got a tiny bit out of Oliver.
I never watched Green Arrow, was it any better than that other shit, Super Girl, Flash & that other one which was so bad i can’t even remember the name?
I'm just saying she can't just force someone to talk about things, especially abuse and even more especially the abuse oliver went through. I mean 5 years stuck in hell being tortured, I wish she wasn't so angry when being met with 'I don't want to talk about it'. He is perfectly right to be quiet and distant, I just wish she had more patience.
NIKOL BLACK her father died her brother died and her mother completely shut down she had nothing but her brothers example was all she had and in this scene she is hurt by the fact that her brother is not who she thought he was
That whole "don't you knock!" scene was EXACTLY what siblings do. Every last one of them.
factz like yasssss
but my mon took my door so they can walk in
Karis W. True
This is so true tho. No matter how many times I tell my siblings to knock before they enter my room, they just keep on waltzing right in like they own the place
*cries as a sibling who had to share rooms* LOL
Oliver: “don’t you knock!?
** leaves door wide open **
*enter Malcolm from the closest *
And no. Its not a reference that John Barrowman is gay lol
Genesis Buduan its common etiquette to knock even if the door’s open
Amusing as hell but he did leave it open. I usually just knock if its closed or barely open. Makes sense. There are moments i still knock even when open.
@@samlung2724 YES!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Knock anyway.
*Can we all agree that Thea has had the greatest character development in all of Arrowverse?*
Nope, Oliver had the most, development in all the arrowverse. Thea has the second and Jennifer from black lightning is third.
@@Tradetek1 yeah where the fuck is diggle lol
in my opinion mick rory had the best character development
I think Laurel did. Thea did change a lot but I think that was more growing up.
@@Tradetek1 the only main thing oliver had to develop was his friendship skills
Thea: “you gotta let me in. You gotta let someone in.”
It took 7 seasons and I rewatched this scene at least 100 times. It just hit me that maybe the reason Oliver told diggle that’s he’s the green arrow because he took theas advice
That’s exactly why he did it. He once said that he wished he could have told them but he didn’t want them to be in danger.
Oliver, I know you were marooned on an island, dying, and obviously horribly tortured, but it was even worse for me.... I was looooonely! God I hated how self-centered Thea was in the beginning.
Same. I was constantly amazed by how insensitive Thea was. Oliver's back a week, and understandably does not feel like reliving the never ending nightmare of a life he lived. Instead of respecting that, she tells him she felt closer to him when he was "dead". Yep, lets all just tell Oliver that we wish he was dead even though he finally came home after five years. Good plan everybody. It's really no wonder Oliver completely shut off for a while.
Kenton Scott well I mean Oliver never shared what happened to him so Thea probably thought he was just surviving
Kenton Scott well you can't really blame her she was 12 and she lost her brother and father and she didn't have anyone's support considering her mum stopped talking and Moría found Walter later on.
Maseleine Grey
You can blame her because when he gets back, she’s 17. A 17 year old should have at least the slightest social skills to know right from wrong.
I disagree she had a very good charecter plot i really enjoyed thea
It's only upon rewatches of early scenes like this one that I realize that while on the surface Thea's actions appear to be those of a self centered, spoiled brat, what's really happening is that she's acting out because she's in pain. She's spent the last 5 years trying to learn to live without her big brother, who'd been there for her all her life, because everyone thought he was dead. And then she gets him back, but he's not the brother she remembers, the one that she lost. He's quieter, and more withdrawn, and he's clearly in ten different kinds of pain but won't let anyone help him. And so she's angry because she feels helpless, because she wants to help Oliver but she can't because he won't let her in.
that's a really good point. thank you for your perspective.
I do think that Thea should have been a little bit more careful about what she said to him though. The whole family really needed some training on how to deal with Oliver's state. He doesn't want to talk about it for a reason. He should have been in therapy and they should have been taught how to behave around him.
@@4everbuffylover His family members- and Laurel, for that matter- could have stood to take some lessons from Dig and Felicity about that. They both clearly wanted to know about what had happened to Oliver, but they also saw that he wasn't at a place where he felt like he could talk about it yet, so they both accepted that when he was ready to talk about it, he would, so they left it alone and didn't push him to relive his trauma before he was ready.
@@Ari-el3xl exactly. I mean at this point, he'd only been home a week. After 5 years fighting for his life. Even if they assume he's been alone on an island for five years, that still means he hasn't had contact with anybody and would have trouble making the adjustment. Knowing what we know about what he was actually enduring makes it all so much worse. He probably just really didn't want to talk about all the screwed up things he had to do to survive, partially because of how guilty he feels about them.
I kind of think part of the reason he got so close to Digg and Felicity is because they didn't push him. They just accepted him for who he was instead of wanting to get back the old "Ollie Queen".
@Sharon Jensen true
As an older brother, the last scene hits me hard. I've watched barely any of this show, but I still remember this. I know my sister truly loves and cares about me, and we talk occasionally but we've haven't been close in years now. And its mostly my fault. I feel bad because she's missed out on all those moments and conversations you can only have with your big brother. There are a lot of mental demons I deal with that have made me withdraw. It might be to the point where she thinks I don't care about her, but I do. I have to let someone in, let someone know what's wrong. But I haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I hope someday I can.
"But I'm not ready yet"
6 years later
"I am the Green Arrow"
He never did tell anyone much about his 5 years. I don't think he told anyone about the torture. It seemed like maybe he told Dig about the freighter. We know that Felicity knows he was in Hong Kong and Russia but sounds like he pretty much just said he was there and it sucked. And he let slip to Felicity when they were on the plane to Nanda Parbat that he had been home to Starling during those 5 years.
@@aliciaborth3016 the torture was actually brought up during the lie detecter scene in season 1. So both Laurel and Quinten knew about it, but I don't recall it ever being actually brought up again after that.
That last scene will always be one of my favorite scenes of these two! Thea's speech gets me every single time.
And Oliver's completely emotionless response is perfect. Realistic for someone who went through hell on an island, and the purposeful distance because of being the hood. He really cared more about the hood when he came home than family, other than Thea.
Edit: After watching the rest of the show, his emotionlessness and reaction to his scars makes even more sense. Dude was tortured for a week in Russia and again the day he was "rescued"!
wow, it's amazing how much has changed in just a few seasons
joshfactor1 just a few seasons is a hell of a lot
I love how shes comparing torture to a morning family
Hahaha yeah annoying
*mourning :)
Shit was annoying asf
Psychological pain can be just as bad as physical pain, sometimes even worse for some people. Just saying
@@Ahmed-ob6ec and sometimes, huge psychological trauma can happen as a result of physical pain.
I don't care Thea is great how she is in the family with her ways.I never properly noticed her growth in the series till now.
Back when Queen family was still rich
back when? oliver queen is still rich as fuck
@@xanderwusky exactly
@@xanderwusky actually back when the show was amazing.
@@xanderwusky I'm sorry, I haven't watched show since the first episode of season 5, how are they still rich?
@@laisensei6984 been a while since they went into it. There is a whole different setting now. Also a future one where felicity is rich due to the programs she made.
Pretty sure the queen company still exists after season 5. It's also clear he has no issues affording anything he needs. Sorry that it's not more specific but it's been a while since it was brought up and it's really not all that important to the current story
Ah the first two seasons were so epic and grounded. It was a lot better than any other live action DC content.
i'm sorry did tommy just say that Oliver got in trouble for peeing on a cop @0:48 . Oliver wtf man.
😂😂😂
LMFAOOOO LEGEND
assault with a different type of deadly weapon
It was probably Lance too.
@@jamainegardner4193 😂😂😂
When you find out that the actress who played Thea is older than the actress who played Felicity.....
2:15 said every brother to a sister
Oliver and Thea >> Alex and Kara. I love Kara to bits, and I think her and Alex have probably the most non-toxic, pure relationship in the arrowverse, but Oliver and Thea man. All arrow fans were robbed of screentime with them alone. Whenever they were on screen, just the 2 of them, it was just brilliant.
From this earlier in the series its so surprising to see General Zod so calm and stable and non tyrannical !
What
I like Oliver’s expression during the “Dont you knock?”. Compared to the rest of this scene, he shows so much more emotion.
Thea is the greatest and the bedroom and headstone scenes were beautiful
Thea: Oh no my mother is depressed
Oliver: while I’m getting torchured and nearly dying more times you can count
Tommy: i will sleep with my best friends ex and think thea is sexy
Can you imagine how bad Thea felt once she learned what he’s been through
The thing is she never really knew, none of them knew. Diggle and Felicity know just a tiny bit.
Bro i have a question did tommy khew that thea was his sister because in 1x1 tommy tells oliver that thea is sexy and rewaching it is like damm because they are brothers.
Ugh she looked so good here
If I were Thea, I’d be really confused as to how he got a new tattoo on a deserted island. 👀
Dead people don’t want anything.... it’s one of the perks of being dead
Now the show is in season 8, which is the last season. It's amazing how far the show has come even with the downsides and how much Thea has grown up and became a warrior herself.
Thea is my favorite actress in the serial!
0:47 "and who could forget peeing on a cop"
He was marooned on an island where he had to kill to survive for 5 years and you’re surprised that he’s distant only a week upon his return
That got me too. How could they even think they would get that goofy idiot back after being marooned for 5 years? Both Thea and Moira knew about the scars and that really should have been more than enough to cause them to accept the emotional distance and the fact he was gone a lot, the man had no people around him for 5 years (that we knew).
The relationship between Oliver and Thea is unimaginable I’m my opinion…cuz at least both of them try to work things out as sibs
She has her moments of being nice
Bruh, when she was looking at his scars, stephen was just staring at the camera akwardly
I love this Thea more than the one working in the Mayor's office.
so oliver was about 22 when he went missing was gone for about 5 years so now he should be something like 27 in this episode
ODD PERSON i literally was doing the same maths 😅😅
Oliver: r-
Thea: YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO IM IN PAIN TOO
7 years ago.... This hit different
10 years ago....
Oliver: Don't you knock!
Me: Bruh... The door was open, even if she knocked on the open door, she'd still see it a fraction of those BIG ASS scars.
Did anyone else notice how fast Thea changed into her dress??
Different scenes.
I hate how the whole 8 seasons just ended without anyone knowing what Oliver has been through on that Island, I wish he could've told someone.
Wow Thea can be a real spoiled brat who never got called out for her actions.
Omg! After watching this, I see Mia in Thea!
dizinin alfa bölümleri
miss the old seasons
2:15 and it was at this moment he realized.........he fucked up
2:40 ye well who’d wanna talk about being tortured it’ll bring back memories
Especially being home maybe 2 weeks at this point. They should assume he is going to be distant on his return and stop pushing so much.
@@aliciaborth3016 Yes atleast after one year someone gets me
He’s like Rambo
I love Thea x1000000!!!
Aside from Diggle, Thea is my favourite character on the show. She went from being a party girl to the leader of The League of Assassins.
Really she was my least favorite she is very rude
I love Thea but Oliver should have to talk to you about anything. It’s a traumatic experience. You have to give it time.
I love Thea 😍
Back when everything was normal.
Hey look it's Ra's al Ghul and the Spectre
Thea is beautiful
1000th sub
If it wasn’t for pizza I’d have a body like Oliver.
yeah but what kind of pizza? i personally love cheese, pepperoni, meatlovers, Canadian and pretty much anything without mushrooms, pineapple, tomatoes, spinach and things like that,i love pizza ☺️
Just eat pizza, but up your game in training sessions - you'll get there eventually
Did you know one of the executive producers in this show is called "Speed Weed" ?
You eventually warm to her in later episodes
the first season was amazing, then they did what they did and turned it into a soap opera
shirt opening scene, HAWT.
3:40 background music??? Anyone?
It is"returning home/scars"....took me some time too to find it,lol
@@RajatSharma-rh8wf thanks buddy
Ignore mom, avoid Walter, and JUDGE ME! Yes how dare you, my older sibling, criticize me for making the same mistakes you did when you definitely know why they were bad
Just like Laurel later. Saying things like "That's rich. Thea Queen lecturing me about drinking too much." Or saying Lance was a hypocrite since he was a drunk too. Ignoring the fact that those things are bad and that's why they don't do it anymore and instead focus on trying to make it OK for her because they did the same thing once.
Hearing oliver mention the kardashians was a shock to me
Oh God!I really hate that kind of young siblings who're so nosy the way,even if you went to the literal Hell and came back,want to know everything!and in the end make everything about themselves such as "You Treat Me Like A Kid" and really don't get maybe somethings are really hard to explain because by explaining you're forced to think about it and by thinking about it just remember the pain!Thea has been rude to her Oliver ever since the first night he came back and in here doesn't give a damn that maybe he doesn't want to think about those memories and that's why he doesn't want to explain and making it like it's her problem!
Please make more:)
they need to get close offcourse we might see that in season 3
Thea was hot in season 1
Yeah😍😍😍😍😍
She was 17
Sweet home all abama
Sean Daly
1. That’s the legal age of consent in most states
2. The actress was older
@@seandaly8943 No she wasn't, the actress was 21.
Did they cut something or did thea really change clothes that fast
These were different scenes. It's slightly confusing because the first scene ends with Diggle leaving the living room and the next scene starts with Diggle leaving the living room.
"improved" he says
I really hope DC make Thea canon in the comics
She's already semi-canon for her character was loosly based off Mia Dearden
Oliver in the comics is alot lighthearted and playful
But having a little sister like Thea would enrich his character
DC major superheroes are almost all only child
Plus, Thea is amazing
She could be the second speedy after Roy
Like Jason to Dick
Woah 7 years have passed WHAT THE FUCK BOY
1:00-1:18 how did Thea get changed so quick????
She definitely snuck out before and she needs to know how to change fast to not get caught. And since the actress seems to be able to do it, it’s realistic,
They are different scenes. It's just confusing because the first scene ends with everyone walking away and the second scene starts with Diggle walking away.
Anyone know where i can watch arrow season 1 for free. Anywebsites?
That's a nice pink dress and hot pink pants!!!
Yeah Willa Holland is a model.
who's here after 8x03
The real question is who could he trust to talk to?once that becomes a factor then it would just take patience and time
That’s one of the reasons he opened up to Diggle and Felicity because Thea was right, he had to open up to someone.
@@SteveRogers0768 It was probably easiest to open up to Diggle because he didn't have to worry about being thought of as "broken" like he did with civilians. Diggle was in combat and knows about scars and the right way to talk about them or ignore them. One of their early training scenes they were talking very matter of fact with light probing by Diggle, and he got a tiny bit out of Oliver.
ive read some fanfic about these 2 ;) ;) ;)
Ok. I am a fool!
Back when Arrow was still good
Aqua, is that you?
I never watched Green Arrow, was it any better than that other shit, Super Girl, Flash & that other one which was so bad i can’t even remember the name?
Yes
DC Legends of Tomorrow? Batwoman or Black Lightning?
Those are the only 3 you're missing Azza 179
It's the greatest DC show of all time!!!!
It’s the best CW show, much better than flash; season 4 wasn’t great but the other seasons are at least good or watchable
4:16 she doesn't know what hell is especially what Oliver went through
Growing up with the loss of her brother and father
Essa irmã só ferrou com a vida dele...
Arrow.
Man thea has no idea what kind of hell he was in :|
I'm just saying she can't just force someone to talk about things, especially abuse and even more especially the abuse oliver went through. I mean 5 years stuck in hell being tortured, I wish she wasn't so angry when being met with 'I don't want to talk about it'. He is perfectly right to be quiet and distant, I just wish she had more patience.
Why cant all dc tv shows have good acting lmfao
did she dressed that fast?
Thea is cruel. But I still like her:)
NIKOL BLACK she's not rlly cruel
NIKOL BLACK her father died her brother died and her mother completely shut down she had nothing but her brothers example was all she had and in this scene she is hurt by the fact that her brother is not who she thought he was
There is no way Thea got changed in like 3 seconds
I hope Walter and Moira ended up together again
2:07
yo jokes aside,Moira is hot
0:55 Dr Rhodes omgg
I ship it
Tf they are legit siblings
@@enerelbuyanzul8978 ok
Ничего не понял. Она очень привлекательная
The whole Thea seeing Olivers scars scene should've turned into the Laurel making out scene lol, because reasons.
Tydeus uhmmm no because incest??
1:05 - 1:18
Wth thea ?
everything was better before familly friendly taking over
yeah, i'm sure partying on a nightly basis and living in a huge mansion would be hell for anyone
I feel bad if ur a boy and ur name is Queen
Sad😪😥OK