Hyundai Kona 2025 - A Great Car For Non Car People!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024
- It's great, but so is rice pudding. Sometimes great can be a little ordinary!
2nd Channel: / @drivingohm
Website: www.ev-man.co.uk
Twitter: / evmanuk
Tesla Referral: ts.la/andrew31112
Octopus Referral: share.octopus....
#hyundai #electriccar #kona
I have been driving this car for 6 months after having previously driven an Ioniq 38 for 3 years. I don’t understand some of the criticisms, particularly about range and charging speed. The new Kona will go well over 300 miles in summer at about 5 miles per kWh. It was about 280 miles range today on a cold and wet winter day at 3.8 m kWh driving at 70 mph on the M4 from London to Swansea. Did not need to stop for a charge. Could not do that in the old car, always had to have a charge on this route of about 200 miles. Charging speed will be just over 100 kW, that is double what the older Ioniq could get. Not as fast as say a Kia EV6 but it is a cheaper car. I am not bothered about what it looks like, looks fine to me. I would recommend it to anyone that wants an efficient mid sized EV.
My old 4 year old 64k Kona is still, in winter, doing 4.8 mpkw. Does 5 plus in summer.
Have this in top spec. It’s a very decent car to live with. Comfortable, well specified and totally confident for reliability. Screens are great, build quality is solid. Getting around 250 miles in winter, 280 in summer per charge would probably get more if I’d gone with the smaller wheels.
Had my Kona since April and I love it. When I ordered could only choose the Advance spec or Ultimate, and couldn’t justify the price difference for the ultimate on the lease price. Added the “comfort pack” (heated seats, heated steering wheel, wireless charger and privacy glass), but was disappointed by the lack of other options (would have loved the upgraded stereo and option of electric drivers memory seat.
Used as a main family car with my 9 and 6 yr old kids, and we have plenty of space, it replaced an Octavia estate and we haven’t struggled with the lack of space.
Have to say I think the build quality is incredible, it’s great to drive (and I’ve taken it from Birmingham to Scotland, Worthing and Exeter on trips) and incredibly efficient (getting 3.7 - 4 miles/kwh at 70 even in December), your figures surprise me, is it because of the bigger wheels? Mine was comfortably getting 5 in the warmer summer months…
And you don’t need to go into menus to turn off the speed limit bongs, a software update just means you need to hold the mute button on the steering wheel in for 3 seconds to change it to info (display on dash) only
I test drove the megane, was too small, smaller range and felt cheap for me. The e2008 didn’t compare and the Niro was more expensive without a heat pump
The car you were driving has 19" wheels. That affects the range by about 40 miles. You can opt for the free 17" wheels. The 17" wheels also decrease the road noise slightly.
I’ve got the N line S version, with the bigger battery, I’ve had it six months. Best car I’ve ever owned
Apart from the afterthought rear lights I like it. Glad to see Manufacturers have got the message re buttons inside - Another winner from Hyundai.
I've had this version since the summer, got around 3.5 m/KWh during storms last weekend in the wind and rain. Though the charge isn't as powerful as some the charging curve is very flat at 94 kW which had between 7 - 48% at new GRIDSERVE 350 kW
I had previous model 64kw Ultimate which averaged 4.3mpkw in winter and 4.8mpkw in summer covering approx 11000 miles per year over 3 year usage, now got Ionia 5 77kw rwd Ultimate which has averaged 4.0mpkw over 10,000 miles between mid July to mid December driving approx 500 miles travelled per week with heater on during cold weather and AC in summer which I’m very pleased with. Massive saving compared to any ICE car @ 8.5p per kw. 77x0.085 =6.545 £6.55 for between 310 miles summer and 270 miles cold weather (4 to 8 degrees) no complaints here
We’ve had the Ultimate since April and very pleased with the efficiency, better than you reported but we live south of Yorkshire. Having driven a Prius for 12 years I wanted a HUD and this Kona has one which is well integrated with the navigation system. I find this so relaxing to drive.
Two niggles: the car does not remember the driving mode, always resetting to ‘Normal’ on start-up, unlike the gen-1 Kona; and the navigation system is fiddly to use.
There is a related Bluelink app which is good in parts, though Hyundai are threatening to charge a subscription for cars 5+ years old.
I've done 250 in the Kona, no bother.
Had it since October, 3500 miles at 3.8 miles per kwh. 19" wheels
This looks much improved over the previous Hungry Hippo style. Robocoop look is at least better. Main problem ius the offset charge port that is super obvious and messes with my OCD! Also it seems they have improved pricing a lot and are aware of that £40,000 Tax in the UK that is a so called luxury!
Funny how people see things differently isn't it. I think this is one of the ugliest cars I have seen ....😂
Robocoop being either a futuristic chicken house or a dystopian convenience store.
HMRC need their heads looking at. How can you keep the £40K bar as that of a “luxury car” for years and not adjust it upwards every year for inflation. It’s so dumb. Imagine if they did that with the housing market? Yeah mate, your home is luxury because it cost over 200K…
Great video, honestly, it is like watching mates chatting.
Thank you.
TBH, I'm happy with my 2023 64kWh Kona Ultimate. Bought it when 6 months old and SWMBO prefers sitting in it to the 2020 Tesla M3LR we had.
Top of my list for my next company car mid-next year (will be ordering around March). Yes I know there’s the EV3 out there and the Elroq, both of which are newer and better cars, but they are about £100-£150 a month more to lease!
The 65kWh Advance fits nicely under the £40k luxury tax band, has great range, great space and the charging speed works for me - I rarely do long journeys. Don’t care that much about the anonymous looks and image - too old for that! It’s just a great all rounder and spectacular value for money to lease. Hoping lease prices don’t change between now and March!
I have had the N-Line version with the 19” wheels for about 6 months. Done about 5k miles in it so far. Great car and I would easily say nicest car I have owned and wonderful to drive. Yes the 19” wheels do take a hit on the range but I preferred the look of them so knew that going in to it. I get about 220/230 Motorway mileage doing 70 ish on a full charge, and that been in mild winter weather with some rain. The onboard charger being 11KW is great as get a bit more juice if you need to on the 22KW chargers in public. I haven’t had to charge publically much but when I do again the speed has been fine, peaked around 90KW with no preheating etc. You are right about the noise. Again nothing much worse than other petrol/diesels I have owned from Skoda/VW/Volvo/Kia etc but again the wheels don’t help. If you want more range and less noise get the 17” and you will be fine, I just prefer the N-Line and N-Line S 19” which I think look the best out of all the range, even the top spec ones im not a fan of.
It's a superb car, can't think of any other I would want. Very impressed with mine.
We have the previous face lifted model of this car (64kWh Ultimate model). Bought as a 1 year old used car for half of its price when new. A Goldilocks car in terms of its size. Not too big or too small. Shame this one has grown in size a bit. Loads of knobs in our car which is fine by me. Excellent range, 270 with ease in winter & 300+ in summer with no heat pump & it's currently averaging 4.3miles/kW.
The only real drawbacks to our car are front tyre wear (new tyres at 15,900 miles) & the ride / suspension which is fairly firm / choppy on uneven roads - which we have a lot of. Tyre noise is quite high which I hope to lessen by the fitting of 67dBA new tyres on the front. The rears still have 6mm of tread so it will be a while before they get changed. Ours has been reliable up until today when we had a BMS warning pop up on the Infotainment system. This could well be the 12v battery issue. Would I upgrade to this new Kona? Probably not. The new one is larger so I'll be looking at the forthcoming Skoda Epiq which is probably smaller but has a bigger boot. We'll see.
Me:- I believe there is a 5 mile warranty
JLR:- Not sure we can make it 5 🤣
When the boot was opening, I thought my fridge freezer door had been left open. Glad to see it was just this video lol
My feelings exactly about this car. I’m sure it is a great family car but ai can’t get over how it looks. I tend to keep my cars for many years and I want to like what I’m driving.
Robocop? Nah. Cylons. Personally don't give a rat's a... for looks. In fact, if its ugly, it might keep the [other road users] at bay.
If it's reasonably small and works, it'll do for me.
✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️! A driver, not a poser.
Battlestar Galactica Cylon. Its a missed opportunity if you cant send a single red light scrolling across and back.
We got the N line S ev in march this year on the motorbility scheme.
Cost us £1500 on top.
Other than the doors being very plastic and the ambient lighting being a joke its been a fantastic car for our needs over the last 9 months and 2400 miles.
Its showning 4.2 kw/h since new.
Energy unit:- 4.2 kWh, efficency 4.2 miles per kWh, sorry engineering bit coing out in me.
Sorry, I mis typed that, what I meant was the car is showing 4.2 miles per kilowatt hour as its lifetime consumption figure up to now.
@@brianiswrong that is good even our small Seat Mii over the year (6000 miles) has averaged only 4.8 miles per kWh.
I've no real problem with charge port in the front, but why not put it in the centre and make it blend in easier?
Agreed! I wish someone (Hyundai?) would design an applique that's the mirror image and stick on the other side. Must. Have. Symmetry!
Dear VW. My 2015 Jetta has buttons for the windows front and back. Kona has buttons for front and back windows. WHY CAN'T YOU PUT 4 BUTTONS FOR THE WINDOWS? Why is is it front/back switch and two buttons. Ugh.
Here in Jersey (the new one) we have tons of Konas. Some are even electric. The most popular model? Gas w/AWD. Sadly, there's no AWD electric model. It would sell here if they could get it right (the gas AWD is probably the least expensive family AWD SUV on the market, tho I haven't checked). We have a '22 electric and it is fantastic.
I've got this car but with a shale grey interior which is so much better than this charcoal interior, they also offer a sage green interior depends on spec and exterior colour. I just wished my Hyundai had of given me the option of 17 or 19's for the tires rather than stuck on the 19's for the top spec which I have. Being in a hot country not a fan of glass roofs so the sunroof which is bigger than the previous gen is perfect plus means I can close the shade if it gets really hot. The main thing I find with Hyundai is they have the dead zone for my left foot between the stupid footrest that all cars have and the brake pedal very few cars have it and being tall with my ratios my legs need the room and that little extra room is good to stretch my left leg out.
As a non-owner I wish they'd put the rear indicators higher up. They get hidden in bumper to bumper traffic
Robocop is a nice nod to the current situation in South Korea 😮 the leaders probably have a few of these
My complaint with Hyundai cars is that even their top spec cars always look and feel cheap materials wise but they do not have a cheap price, I cannot fault them technically they just do not seem to justify the price. If only they would improve the materials used overall it would be worth the money but as they stand I simply couldn’t justify spending the money on one.
I don’t agree. I have a top spec Tucson and previously a top spec Skoda Karoq and the materials and fit quality are either equal or in favour of the Hyundai. I’ve driven the top spec Kona as well (mild hybrid variant though) and I’d be interested to know what specific aspects you have in mind when saying that.
I drove a new one recently and loved it, my mate is getting one on Motability and it will be perfect for him.
Shame about the looks though. It must have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
This could be on the shortlist for my wife’s next car, as would be exactly what she would want and be practical. That or another ZS.
This looks like a cool upgrade over the last car
Any thoughts on the new Cupra Tavascan? Will you be doing a review of that at all?
I nearly bought a kona, the model 3 won, mainly for the charge network.
The two most dress design conscious gentleman have the cheek to say a car has a dull interior.🕺🕺
Intersting review. The styling is best described as marmite. As a car, the EV3 is better in many metrics. I prefer fear wheel drive EVs which would probably lead me to a Born of EX30.
New kona looks great I don’t think I could get one as I couldn’t trust it after having the previous generation the 6 months wait for a new main traction battery car had to go Northern Ireland to England for the replacement only done 5000 miles
I like it. If this had been available when I ordered my Sal sac car I probably would have ordered it. I ended up with a Kia EV6 instead, lovely car, but a bit too big and not very efficient. Strangely, although the Kona 2 only been out for about a year, compared the Kia EV3 and Skoda Elroq it’s already starting to feel dated.
These are great used cars too. Autotrader has a few 3 year olds from around £14K. A Bargain for the size/range!
I would argue it is a car for car people who just want to move to an EV and not have any hassle.
A Tesla is more of an image thing, to be cast away when the next shiny toy comes along.
Does the back seat fold flat, and what LENGTH have you got between the back of the front seat and the inside of the hatch?
Do you use lack of MOT left as a big bargaining chip? For example if I turned up with a car with 12 month MOT on it, would I get that increased value from a dealer in part ex ?
@@brianridley1102 Most would require a minimum of 3-6 months.
Electric hippo for me and over styled side profile which is a pity. But in this version, it has everything you could possibly want in a car with a great warranty. Just a bit of a shame it is not as efficient as the first gen. An increase in weight has to be the reason. I think as these EVs get more powerful, RWD is the way forward to prevent torque steer. They just handle so much better. And would have been nice at this price point if it charged faster. Now that the VAG group 400v architecture EVs can charge at up to 185kW, this slow charging Kona is now not good enough in 2024/25.
Di you think they haven't concentrated to much on efficiency to try and get people into the new models
sold for 17k in hong kong with grant
Irrelevant
Appreciate this is subjective but I prefer the looks of the earlier Konas. No doubt it’ll be a cracking EV though.
Hmm, I think the back has a real Ssangyong vibe to it.. (yuk). The rear lights... Probably a good car, but meh.. 😂
I average 4.2 m/kWh in my mk1 Kona 64kWh over 12 months. Looks like they added some drag to the new version.
The golf was always a family vehicle. This is much bigger than a golf.
Cars don't need to be a discovery 110 to be a family car.
There’s 7cm difference.
Can't adjust my eyes for the Hyundai Kona.... In parts it's OK looking but in general it's a mish-mash. Especially the rear with it's stupidly ugly lights out on the wheel arches. Overall, I couldn't bring myself to drive one. As spending money, it needs to be on something that I "want"
Who looks at the rear lights while driving it? Answer: only the following vehicle. I don’t have one, but I most certainly would look far deeper than the rear light layout. But there are some that just buy a car because “they like the colour” I suppose.😂
A bit too much grey! But no gloss piano black plastic - maybe car manufacturers have finally listened.
As a city car with the odd 100-140 mile motorway drive it is fine, a bit boring, a little overpriced for the top spec. On a cold day with a 200+ mile motorway drive I suspect the range will be a bit limiting.
If you want a boring functional car, the Kona is fine - but my first choice would always be Skoda
The front and rear lights look expensive and vulnerable to damage. I prefer the previous design I’m afraid
The Kona has a permanent magnet electric motor which will not give great range.I prefer wound stator cars like the Zoe .They might not have the instant acceleration but will do 4.1 on a run.
This battery is a LFP? Crucial information is missing
100% is the cybertruck ed209?
6.22....mesh head restraint, 1970s 3.0s Capri anyone 🙂
Should review the Volvo EX30 twin motor performance
5mi warranty FTW!
The name of this car still amuses me when a Brazillian person told me what they hear. The range amuses me less. When will we see a long range EV?
You say this is the second gen - isn’t it the third? 2018-20, 2020-23, 2023+?
I would call the middle a facelift.
I want front charging, going to Cornwall in aug makes charging competitive; no way im driving past n trying to reverse while a jaag drives straight in n your marooned
And I want the charger at the back because 99% of the time I'm charging at home and always reverse into my drive.
@@NickFosterThat is actually quite a relevant point about what car to get re which is the best position with regards to where your home chargepoint is. I reverse into my drive (I also used to do so in the old ICE car its the easiest way to park at mine) but I am parked sidewise onto the house with the front of the car being the closest to my front door. That is where the charge point is. This being dictated where the electricity supply etc is in the house. So for me a charge socket at the front and ideally to the right is the best spot. At other very similar houses on my road , even quite close to me, due to the dimensions of their drive, the cars are reversed in with the rear of the car closest to the front door. So for them a model with a charge socket at the back would be better placed.
Peugeot are 1 model away from the 209! Come in frenchies
Snap, crackle, and K-Pop lol
What EV under £40k would you recommend as a dog owner and will give you at least 200 miles range in winter? Is there such a car?
@@phiby123 Kia Niro EV
So guys….is this still” Phil Neville “to the Niro’s “Gary”??
If he died his hair green.
I had a new kona e in n line spec as a courtesy car while my ioniq5 had the iccu replaced. It’s a good car and is incredibly economical that 3.5kwh hour figure he quoted is wrong we was always over 4kwh . I like the channel but get your facts straight
That’s what we and a 6 month long term loan got. They are facts!
When did you have yours? Time of year?
I would ike to have seen under the bonnet. EV motors are much smaller than gas engines of the same power, and we don't need the long bonnets anymore, yet they seem to still have them just because the proportions "look" right. Except to me they don't.
You missed it? It was there! Not going to find it for you, but it was a 2 second clip, without audio, after the boot inspection.
@@oliver90owner 3:14 dang, I looked over that the hummingbird on my feeder and almost missed it again.
It feels like they've made it bigger just to fit a frunk in there, but nobody had a frunk before Tesla invented it, and nobody wanted one then.
I'd rather lose the frunk and have a shorter bonnet so I don't have so many problems at blind corners.
@@ziploc2000 I don't think the frunk is the reason for the bonnet length. There are versions of this car that have internal combustion engines.
It's like the Kia electric Niro. old style was a lot better range wise. These flat front are not good...
My concern about these new hyundai's i (this and inster) s that the lights are in the bumpers. Little dunch and the car is unsuitable for driving and will cost a fortune to fix.
It is ugly though.. reminds me of going to meet a new baby and coming away saying..ahhh what a shame 😬
To my eyes it looks over styled, with panel creases for the sake of it. The Hyundai Tucson is even worse in this respect. Although I have to say the South Koreans are way up there with EV efficiency and tech......
Agree, the front rear and sides to me were designed separately. It doesn’t come together. Test drove one in the summer and it did not seam to be any better than the Kia e-Niro we leased at the time. Internally the car is a big improvement.
You would likely complain if all the panels were flat?
Don't think you give enough credit it enough for keeping buttons if youre a (damned with fake praise) "not interested in cars"
What a load of twaddle. We have got two of these (ultimate) and they are wonderful and in the summer months we get over 300 miles of quiet motoring. Why do you have to fill in with lots of nitpicking.
It wouldn’t be a review if we didn’t.
God that's fugly. Always feel a bit cheap to the touch compared to a Kia even though they are anything but. Kia just seem to have that extra something, don't quite know what it is, attention to detail, care, quality???
It’s looks dreadful with a dull, cheap, dated looking interior and Hyundai’s seem to date badly on most of their cars. One of the best warranties as it cover everything for 5 years unlimited mileage. The MG warranty is dreadful check the MG warranty document it covers practically nothing after 3 years pretty much just battery and motor are cover after the first 3 years on MG’s
I love the channel but I've always thought it's pointless wasting time describing how a car looks on the outside. That's the ONE thing the viewer doesn't need help with.
- As for the car itself, I find it really disappointing. I was expecting more range or a significantly lower price. The Kona seems to be slipping behind competition, especially in light of KIA's EV3.
This seems like it should be £5k cheaper at all levels of finish. The pace of change is incredible in the EV World, but this seems to offer no more than the previous versions.
if the base version gets below 200 mile winter range then in 2025 that's a fail. Why wouldn't I get a used KIA Niro EV with 5 years left on the warranty and save 7 grand or so?
Another prime contender for” ugliest car on the planet “ competition.
along with teslas.
Nice car apart from the fact its electric.........so ultimately its dead technology.
So presumably the fact that this is an EV channel along w the thumbnail that you clicked on, wasn't enough information for you to work out that it was an EV? I also suppose that you are expecting people who are interested in buying this or any other EV to change their minds, because of your insightful and intelligent observation? In case you didn't realise, the second part was sarcasm.
@@simonpaine2347 He, or she, will be mighty upset when they eventually wake up and actually realise that all new cars will be electric, in the UK, from 2030.🫨🫨🫨
Mental health getting more prevalent…especially in children