Soft Machine - "All White" On French TV, 1972

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Hugh Hopper, John Marshall, and Mike Ratledge give an interview about the newly formed "Six" lineup before running through "Fanfare/All White"
    My french isn't too good, and I can't understand any of the questions, but I could understand Ratledge's responses:
    ----
    Q: [?]
    "It changes all the time, because the musicians change, and their conception of the music changes, because they listened to new music, or they got sick or...things like that"
    Q: [?]
    "No,because, when they leave they have a reason to leave, and when they join, they too have a reason to join"
    Q: Yet you keep the same name...[?]
    "Yes, because there is a certain residue, of songwriting, a certain spirit which remains...I don't define it.
    There are always differences because there are pieces all of which are improvised, without any notation; it's different, and even things that have writing are different. It's the only way we can play together; each person is different and has different ideas of the music"
    "That depends on the definition of pop music. if it means popular, then there is no connection.
    Q: what is this?
    "promises of many listeners, of lots of money, so it's not us, I think."
    ----
    Soft Machine, as you see them here, was:
    Mike Ratledge - Organ, Electric Piano
    Karl Jenkins - Oboe, Electric Piano
    Hugh Hopper - Bass
    John Marshall - Drums

Комментарии • 46

  • @klaus8456
    @klaus8456 4 года назад +4

    I find John Marshall to be rather annoing and cocky in this footage, as if he was, "invading" soft machine. Not to say he isnt a Amazing drummer.

    • @gilouseb
      @gilouseb 3 года назад

      That's what I think. One can't breathe.

  • @yellowclouds3722
    @yellowclouds3722 8 лет назад +4

    Great music! i find it pretty difficult to play such chords/notes like Ratledge did. When i have to describe Soft Machine with one word, then it would be SERIOUS - in the most positive meaning...

  • @ricardog.sanchezsierra989
    @ricardog.sanchezsierra989 10 лет назад +2

    I prefer the version from the 5th album, with Elton Dean on saxello, but anyhow, All White is one of my Soft Machine favs.

  • @TheGenreman
    @TheGenreman 10 лет назад +14

    John Marshall looking cool in this.

  • @jang69420
    @jang69420 Год назад +1

    Does every member of soft machine speaks french?

  • @NeilThompson30
    @NeilThompson30 8 лет назад +4

    At the end you can see that this is a really big venue - and there's only three girls sitting there! - mind you, when I saw them at Newcastle City Hall in 1975 there wasn't many more people there - shame cause they were incredible

    • @yellowclouds3722
      @yellowclouds3722 8 лет назад

      i think this is footage from rehearsals before the upcoming show...

  • @gilouseb
    @gilouseb 9 лет назад +4

    Wiskey River is right. Elton Dean's departure was Soft Machine's act of death. After 5th album, they only did one good number: Hazard Profile part 1, thanks to Allan Holdsworth. Karl Jenkins ' compositions and solos are sad and boring. So is this version of "All white", such a good number when Dean is blowing. There is a video of that piece on youtube with Dean AND Robert Wyatt, nothing to compare.

    • @BassLudeman
      @BassLudeman  7 лет назад +1

      gilouseb gotta disagree - while i do prefer Wyatt and Dean in general, Elton was not sounding particulary good by the end of his time in the band. imo, jenkins, while not really being the satisfying soloist or writer the band really needed, brought a timbral improvement that made up a little bit for their having run out of substantial ideas. my favorite version of All White is the Six version, done by this lineup, but on the official recording the out head has this crazy proto-hip hop feel to it thats really great, thanks to John Marshall being a monster. Seems like this was early in this lineup's life, maybe before they really got tight on the feel of their rep

    • @theloniousratledge8835
      @theloniousratledge8835 3 года назад

      L'inizio della fine dei SM è il 1973, con Ratledge che si era stancato di comporre e di suonare. È stato per questo motivo che MR chiamò Jenkins.

    • @andreasschneider8556
      @andreasschneider8556 2 месяца назад

      I respect Jenkins more as a composer. As a soloist on the oboe he had a good time until 1972. I think you can't maintain a high playing quality on the oboe for many years. It's physically not possible. True his solos on Seventh and Bundles are not really as good as before.
      Soft Machine in the mid Seventies were excellent instrumentalists but rather average composers. True they lost the vital factor of the earlier years.

  • @toddlittle9095
    @toddlittle9095 3 года назад +1

    anyone know the date of this performance?

  • @Dogdrum
    @Dogdrum 6 лет назад +2

    The sound, spirit, and core of Soft Machine: Mike Ratledge, Robert Wyatt, Hugh Hopper, Kevin Ayers. Period.

    • @Hal9000ize
      @Hal9000ize 3 года назад

      Don't forget Daevid Allen

  • @theloniousratledge8835
    @theloniousratledge8835 10 лет назад +1

    Ratledge era un uomo estremamente preciso, con una concezione musicale tipicamente freejazzistica. Come ha detto Pur11zz, è un grande peccato che si sia ritirato dalla musica.

  • @Bucky315
    @Bucky315 2 месяца назад

    Mike speaks French! Cool!

  • @andreasschneider8556
    @andreasschneider8556 8 лет назад +3

    Karl Jenkins oboe gave the Soft Machine a fresh new colour in 1972. But he eventually was more long lasting in his role as a composer.

    • @Baribrotzer
      @Baribrotzer 7 лет назад +2

      Interesting: Jenkins's approach of very long unbroken lines on the oboe follows Ratledge's older approach on the organ - that being a hallmark of the Soft Machine sound. Ratledge, though, developed that out of necessity - if he didn't keep playing nonstop, his Lowery organ fed back uncontrollably.

    • @jillsandwitch67
      @jillsandwitch67 3 года назад

      @@Baribrotzer Would you happen to know the source for this fact about his Lowery? I saw it on Wikipedia as well but nothing was cited.

  • @theloniousratledge8835
    @theloniousratledge8835 9 лет назад +2

    Whiskey River, Ratledge was rather tired, I think. Shortly after this, from 1974, Soft Machine were a "Karl Jenkins Project".

    • @carladiratz7090
      @carladiratz7090 6 лет назад +1

      I love your pseudo ! (just saying)

    • @theloniousratledge8835
      @theloniousratledge8835 3 года назад +1

      @@carladiratz7090 Perché mi piace la musica jazz, e gli assoli (solos) di Ratledge mi hanno fatto innamorare del jazz.

  • @heavenlymusiccorporationultd
    @heavenlymusiccorporationultd 9 лет назад +1

    Soft Machine was only existing as long as Hugh, Mike & Robert (Kevin ..too, at the early stage) played together .. everything else is still nice or even better but it's something else

    • @ECKMABOHM
      @ECKMABOHM 6 лет назад

      Jawoll Herr Kayser !!! SM ist herausragend ( phasenweise Fifth ) von Volume two bis Nummero 4 .Diese Nucleus-Ödlinge , wie konnte das geschehen !!!!!

  • @adewolf
    @adewolf 11 лет назад +1

    Mike parlez Francaise tres bien. Plus bien que moi ;)

  • @homersimpson8561
    @homersimpson8561 11 лет назад +1

    He is a man of many talents.

  • @whiskeyriver4322
    @whiskeyriver4322 10 лет назад +8

    The beginning of the end……. shortly after this, Jenkins screwed the whole concept of what the Softs were all about.

    • @ECKMABOHM
      @ECKMABOHM 6 лет назад +1

      I agree !! The Special touch of Soft Machine was gone . Karl Jenkins compositions have a lack oforiginallity , may be he has never heard of 7/4 Metrum and he is a boring soloist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @gimmehendrix
      @gimmehendrix 4 года назад +2

      In truth they were finished when Wyatt left. Marshall could never compete.

    • @Hal9000ize
      @Hal9000ize 3 года назад +1

      @@gimmehendrix How would they have been if Kevin Ayers stayed with the group though?

    • @theloniousratledge8835
      @theloniousratledge8835 3 года назад

      @@Hal9000ize Con Ayers, i SM avrebbero continuato con canzoni e testi, e poca improvvisazione.

  • @bigbreadeaterellis
    @bigbreadeaterellis 6 лет назад

    John Marshall is quite cocky judging by the way he answers that French man's question about the name of the band.

    • @jasonpp1973
      @jasonpp1973 6 лет назад

      bigbreadeaterellis Notice he was smiling, I don't believe he was trying to be mean or anything.
      I've seen other interviews with Marshall, he seems like a nice bloke.

  • @lucigaiah
    @lucigaiah Год назад

  • @obelvs
    @obelvs 11 лет назад

    los patrones