FULLY INSULATED & FINISHED ROOF IN 4 HOURS - Is this the best option?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- We did it on our barn conversion too 600m2! - • COMPLETE ROOF IN A DAY...
It's on! Weatherproof, insulated, thermally broken and internally finished, plus installed solo in an afternoon. There are endless roofing options of course, but when it comes to a low height outbuilding or workshop this has proved to be a great alternative. Having used EPDM over standard OSB decked roofs before, it was so nice to not be messing around with cutting and fitting individual sections of PIR and then detailing the vapour control, etc let alone all the additional timber and loss of ceiling height. Lots more info and comparisons to follow in a future video.
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Worked so well we just did our whole barn conversion this way... with a crane! ruclips.net/video/BZ09p43upe8/видео.html
I used this type of roof panels on our barn 5 years ago. Superb system, zero maintenance, zero condensation and cool in summer.
I ordered mine from Thomas Panels & Profiles (in Leominster). Excellent nationwide service.
Any disadvantages bcz im going to do for my house to construct on our upstairs
@@sahanasagi1248 only disadvantages are the aesthetics are not pretty and they don't like crookeduneven roof structures.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who tells an inanimate object to "Stay!" when I put it in a precarious position whilst I grab something I should've picked up first or kept within reach!
This roof is just perfect for a shed - insulated, easy to assemble, reasonably priced, and doesn’t really require any finish work from inside... Good choice 👍🏻 I’ll definitely check it out for our outbuildings.
I'm looking to build a shed, and I'm tempted by the insulated walls as well as the roof, not to the thickness here but it's got to last longer than traditional feather edge or tongue and groove... and might be cheaper, given current timber prices
That material is brilliant! We did my son's 4 car garage with 9.6m lengths. No joins, no cutting, cut backs done at factory. Bit of a handful! Especially as when they came off the lorry they were reversed to how we wanted them! So had to take them out on to the village green and rotate! HaHa! Great fun though!
I wish I would have fully understood the economics of an ENTIRE roofing system before I built my workshop roof (4.5mtrs x 6mtrs) If I would have spent 'more' on insulated pannels, I would have saved myself a TON of time and money in other parts of the roof, and it would have been far far quicker and cohesive to put together. Instead I chose to try to do it on the cheap, and ended up paying double in materials, work and aggravation... Thank you for making this video! :)
So true. Hindsight sucks! I probably spent the same on our garage conversion EPDM flat roof in the end as if I had done if in slate. 🙄
Nice to see it all coming together. Live in the area so saw ths roof being done when driving past. Looks great.
As your daughter said (and she was right) it is amazing !! Well done sir and my absolute respect for doing the complete work without support. Cheers from 🇩🇪👍👍👍
Really impressed, Tim. I checked out the pricing here in Australia, and for our 5.4m x 3.8m shed (walls only, roof already done) it comes in at about $2300, which is really good value, especially when you consider the current price of timber, corrugated tin, insulation and time. Thanks for the videos. NB: Shame you can't share a link to Aussie Kingspan, we could purchase through you. Cheers, Mandy
I made a huge cubby house for the kids out or recycled cool room panels, it was a huge hit and there was no place for spiders to hide.
What a dad stuff like that is priceless
"Stay!" How many times have my husband and I said THAT!! [I'm glad it 'stayed!']
I have a kitchen extension 12'x 25'. With a low slate roof, so many problems that I torched felted the slate roof, as a last resort. But that caused condensation. This summer I will strip the roof, slates , battens etc. Replace with a few 9"x2" and your roofing system. Just took 30 years for technology to come up with a proper solution. Thanks 😊
When will the facia fixing video be uploaded? Love watching your content and Oakwood garden rooms. Who will be the first to upload the much awaited video??? Also what is the sound properties like in rain compared to your shed, would be a good comparison using a sound meter 😉
Had some of this sheeting on a sectional concrete garage a few years go . Wow what a difference it made to the garage
Nice presentation, Sika is promoting IMP roofs (OneDek) with their membrane as the finished installation (Adhered or Mechanically Fastened Membrane). The M.F. option requires a heavier gauge roof side top sheet metal and the fasteners do not penetrate the underside (inside) exposed finished sheet metal. The outside surface of the IMP is smooth without the typical corrugation of traditional metal roof panels. Since the finished weathering surface is a membrane, crickets and parapets can be installed without the cut up variations described in the RUclips. Thanks again!
I did a little two bed barn conversion a dozen years ago with a mono pitch roof. This is exactly the product I used and intend to use it again.
Thanks this is what I’m research for a large barn conversion as I think it would meet the regs and it’s classed as a warm roof . Do you know if the barn you did is working out ok just wondering if it would be noisy obviously there’s gonna be ceilings put in as well . Thanks
@@belucky9630 It is fine. I live in it. We primarily went with this roof to be in keeping with the surrounding farms dutch barn. The panels I used were 200mm thick. Mounted wall to wall in six meter lengths over 15 metres. At this length the weight was all on the walls as the panels are very rigid. We added two sets of heavy beams mounted on the support walls within. This was to be able to mount 15mm ceiling board and gave us a void of 200mm between the ceiling and the roof panel. Enough space for cables and fitting downlights through out. The high end of the mono pitch roof gave us a good height on one side that give a feel of volume and light as we could add glazed panels on this high side. Good luck with your build
HELP! I've ordered some 80mm roofing sheets as per your workshop, they will be used on a garden Room project. But, I've not yet seen how you finished the facia aspect with trims. I have designed a solution for our project, but it is always good to see other ideas/interpretations. Love your content and drive, I found you on RUclips when you made the pizza oven and been watching ever since. Keep up the great family driven work 👍
AMAZING!!!! i had this idea earlier and wanted to see who has done it before, You nailed it! well done.
Thank you very much!
We have had some real downpours in Suffolk...so I’m glad you missed the rain....loving the progress 👏🏻👏🏻🙋🏻♀️💕🇬🇧jane
Hi Tim, looks really good, I used to work for Kingspan in North Yorkshire where panels like this were made. It can have any roofing effect from slates to pan tiles. the foam is so tightly packed it is like having 250 mm of fibreglass wool. I used to weld skylights and vent stacks on the panels, it was like welding tinfoil.
I was wondering about velux windows and considerations for a flue. Couldn't see specifications on the producers website. Any ideas Alex?
@@captinjac74 Hi, these panels are used for commercial buildings mainly. We used to prefabricate all skylights and vents before the panels were sent to site. I would think it fairly straight forward to get a flashing kit for a velux from Kingspan. You would need a heat break to put a flue through this type of panel, not sure what the legal ramifications would be regarding this. Have a scour through Kingsans website or use their contact tab, I am sure they will be helpful, they were when I worked there. Hope this helps.
Cheers
Alex
@@alexclarke5026 thanks dude, that sounds really promising. I'll get in touch with Kingspan. 👍
I'm sure I seen you in a certain local timber yard the other day and I was going to say hello but wasn't sure if it was you. Great work on the work shop and great videos
that oak frame is absolutely glorious
Douglas fir but thanks! 😀
@@TheRestorationCouple oh wow. how much less did that cost than oak equivalent
Timber costs are around 25-30% less I would guess. But also from a local forestry and sawmill which is good. 👍
PIR is notoriously UV unstable. Those roof boards had been left out in the open. You can tell by the discolouration on the sides of some of them compared to the "freshly" cut edges. This is unlikely to have much impact on it's thermal properties, but UV also degrades those thin foam seal strips. They perish just like you experienced. Good fun.
It's looking really cool. I made my old shed out of that and it helped that I just live down the road from the kingspan factory were it's made they do some really good stuff. Looking forward to see it finished 👍👍👍
love it when kids help. 😊
This roofing looks brilliant! I’d be interested to see if you get any condensation on the underside in very cold weather and how waterproof it is as time goes on!
Thanks for sharing!👏👏👏
I'm a designer for a roofing and cladding company that's installed thousands of square meters of these and other similar composite panels; there won't be any condensation issues at 80mm thick (though 120mm+ is more usual these days in order to achieve Part L thermal performance). As long as the ridge and edge flashings are properly sized and installed it won't leak.
I am really impressed with the roof looking at using it for my workshop construction
What a great result! I didn't expect that a shed roof could look and sound as interesting as this which must be the way forward as energy costs ramp up. The only down side I reckon is possibly finding a method of getting rid of any offcuts which must be difficult to recycle given the steel sheathing. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build. Cheers👍
Ideally you just order cut to size. I’ve ended up with a big enough offcut for a small tool store roof. The smaller offcuts you can strip the steel off to recycle. The key would be good planning and getting them made to size I think.
The panels are also available with Rockwool insulation, which would be easier to remove.
Would love to be that kid helping and learning from you. Another amazing video, excited for the cladding.
Just what I was looking for, for my garage. Thanks, awesome advice!
Fantastic I’ve been waiting for this episode. A brilliant solution to a roof. So simple. Wished I’d thought of it on my workshop. I did rafters, sheets, membrane, felt, it took ages
I’ve got no pre-existing attachment to this style of timber framing but after seeing the beautiful job you made of it, it seems a shame to cover it with these panels. I understand the insulation and speed of installation benefits and I’m reserving judgement until end. I also realise you’re more concerned with the appearance from the inside for filming. Thanks for sharing.
Working on the same thing right now. Glad to see how you did it!
Nice work wood beams look awesome. A good tried and tested system, as you highlighted great for a low pitch in permitted development the thing I really like you can also easily fit solar panels to this system which fix to the trapezoidal profile out of the gutter. Would be very interested to see a breakdown of the costs as the wooden beams look awesome.
now this is interesting you mention commercial..my missus (as well as living with me) also has a flat in a 16 flat block and the Landlord is "insisting" they pay for a new roof and are going felt. We've challenged this as wholly inefficient, and I suggested EPDM, but now I've seen this it could be a game changer.
It is a brilliant solution, that would be great for my workshop which is currently covered in OSB and two layers of heavy duty DPM. Your space will be fabulous when you have finished closing it in. I guess sound proofing is pretty good as well.
This is looking better and better every video, can’t believe the progress you’re making on it. Really can’t wait to see how you clad the outside and how you plan to heat it. I didn’t see you bring any conduits in for electricity when you poured the slab, will that come though these walls? Sorry for all the questions, in the planning stages for my own!!!
Eventially I will trench a supply once I decide what we are doing at the back of the house. For now it’s coming in overhead from the studio/garage conversion fascia.
Brilliant! Was looking at this for my Allotment shed build
The garden building is looks really good Tim, well done..
Knowing when to say "duck" - parenting done right 💪
Super impressive and a definite win for so many reasons.... it even looks good. A perfect place to diy 😎👍✅
I am curious on how you fixed the roof beam to the rest of the frame? I don't think you ever showed that, only when you moved it i into place.
@@justjimmy3372 No that's fastening the sheets to the beam. I'm wondering about fastening the beam to the frame. I'm guessing something was done a couple of videos ago when the beam was put in place. But I don't think it was ever shown how it was fixed.
That is a really briliant construction Tim. It was worth the wait. You are forgiven!
Fantastic build. Love the design of the beam framework. Great job. and looks great.
Thank you! Cheers!
Really love this series of videos! Would be great to find some info on building with these using stud work instead of the impressive structure you built. 👍
Brilliant doing the sections before installation. 👏🏻
Had to make use of the help when I had it. 6m lengths are a bit tricky solo. 😬
Great video. Have you any idea what the maximum unsupported length is for these panels? My roof will be single pitch at 3.6m width and was wondering if a panel could be fitted from wall to wall without timber support in the middle?
it would depend on the depth. I have six meter lengths at 200mm thick. They are very rigid and weight goes all on the walls. We did add two further beams internally to help. If you stood on the roof with that span and no other support it might bow a bit. With 3.6 meters would be fine wall to wall
What a brilliant roof structure ...so easy ..!
There is a reason this stuff is used for commercial buildings, it's cheap, effective, and quick to install, I don't know why it's not use more for small residential workshops and out buildings.
One is condensation..
There is no condensation
Looked into this roofing from the place you bought it and the downsides were the water running over the insulation above the drip edge and puncturing the top surface to fix. I'm gonna give EPDM a go. Interesting to see how you get on with the roofing
I should have gone this route. I ended up with 150mm joists (sheep wool polyester blend between), OSB, roofing membrane, bitumen corrugate. Gives me options for easily fixing to the ceiling - but also mine isn't that high inside - so anything I do put up there needs to be flat as possible.
Another really useful video, excellently presented and produced. Thank you very much indeed team.
Im hoping you’ll show us a shot of the fully finished roof.
We did a church in Salford, put a TATA steel roof on it, then battens and then slates over the top, good thing with this is you can always use it as a base layer and add to it, like brick slips etc
Same basis as I’m using for cladding the walls. Saw the kingspan detailing for batten and slates too, looks good. 👍
@@TheRestorationCouple you ever need any information on it let me know, we run a company that supply and fit all cladding.
Will do, thanks. Cut edges was my concern. Manufacturers are telling me that it's galvanised throughout and fine without but im planning to paint anyway just in case.
@@TheRestorationCouple yeah they tell everybody that, it’s not, you will get it if it’s not treated.
Excellent product. Can’t think of any reason to do it conventionally? Great update Tim. 👍
Awesome how easy this is coming along. Im planning to build myself a workshop. Think im going to go for a similar design. However not too fond of the huge douglas fir frame myself 🤣
Yes mate,I’m looking for a similar build 6x 5 mtr workshop,but I’m not keen on the bulky timber frame. Would galvanised purlins be a better choice?
@@basilguts1786 think im going to go for a decent size stud wall frame. Not sure how to construct the roof yet. Dont want a huge pitch so i can keep it within permitted development
I really loved watching this amazing build. Question; is there any issue with condensation building up between the top of the metal roof and the foam?
No real chance for that to happen as the foam is closed cell and bonded to steel so no air gap for condensation to occur.
One day you will think back on not leaving the full sheat to get an overhang at the door.
Off course it will be tipping it down then :)
Looks great! Doing stuff square, straight and plumb is a good habit to base these sheets on and also when laying them!
You are a great builder.
looks a win to me, efficient and good end result ...
Would like to see how the cut back attaches to the wall plate and where the overhang to gutter detail plus verges
Noticed a nice little touch on Essential Craftsman - spec house build. The content focusses on the techniques (and suppliers, relationships and other things). Some other detail including costings are reserved for Patreon subscribers. Might be worth considering?
Great job, love the build. Could you explain how you finished the two end sheets and cut them to prep end panel? Also how did you finish the sheets where it meets guttering and covering the insulation end? Cheers stacey
would be good to see as i am thinking of realizing a project like this on my own as well :D
This is better than most roofs in the US...
I am looking too replace my garage roof which I in the process of making into my workshop and I think your roof sounds like a good idea l was thinking about l beem have l got that right 🤔 as it would be lighter thanks for your video can’t wait for your next update 👍🇬🇧 stay safe
That's starting to look great.
Looks great!! Looking forward to seeing the next episode in the build series
The Mikita tool wall is near. 😆 top job.
So love the channel. I'm just starting my mancave/sheden and was going with the usual stud wall clad, 2.5m limit construction until I watched your workshop.....love the beams but that looks a lot harder than screwing sawn. Not to mention weight. #construction dilemma
Nice job... sky light would be nice fitted into roof
I popped into Lidl yesterday to get an LED workshop light..and saw air wedges and immediately thought of you 🤣
Good stuff!
What’s the light like ?
@@jamiefors5062 brilliant !! it's a folding one, looks a bit like an arc light..
@@PompeyMatt17 cheers for replying 👍
Looks great. In the rain we've had since you did this, is it noisy inside? I'm considering it as a material for an office/workshop outbuilding and would prefer it to not be too deafening...
I wouldn’t think so with all that insulation
Wow, your subscriber numbers are flying up! Could be the Scott Brown music. Loving the videos as always, do you have a favourite project so far?
Great looking product!! Love the beams
The house roof was just practice for the workshop?
Perhaps one day I’ll do another slate roof but for now this was a much easier route! 😀
not sure why people think this roof s good for sheds when its a superior product for housing for walls and roof
Inspirational build! I'm very curious how you're going to do the soffits with the panels cut square on the ends.
Looks a great option, thanks for sharing 👍
Inspirational as always. Thanks very much.
Didn't see another comment so I'm just curious - did you consider mitring the ends at the ridge so they came closer to butting together? I realise it all gets covered with a cap strip eventually and the spray foam fills the void so it doesn't matter.
Top work that family.
Good work. You should have done the main house roof in PIR core instead of slate and lead 👍
😂 would have saved all that cutting and fitting between rafters! You can actually fit a slate roof over these when used at a steeper pitch.
Great stuff, looks ideal. Thanks for posting.
I saw you peeling that plastic with your daughter on Instagram.... loved it! Excellent choice of the material for the shed btw. You're going to love it in there. Perhaps needs some noise cancelling with all that metal.
Yeah a think a couple of sound deadening the panels might be worth incorporating somewhere.
Is this the best option? Sorry I don't like it looks like a cool, box. The Oak frame is beautiful and should have had a wood frame, breathable insulation and membrane and cladding outside IMO. Will condensation and summer heat build up not be a problem?
I find this an odd combo of mixed media. I get that you're after utility but you did such a nice job on the frame... The outside looks like a shipping container. I know it went up fast but still. I'd be tempted to try and get some of that render you used on the garage wall and try to make it look like those Tudor buildings that feature the frame a bit. 😝 Maybe skip the thatch.
Walls are all over clad in cedar and Doug fir. Refrigerated shipping container just a temporary look. 👍
Top dad, lovely little girl.
Can you show us some finished shots of the roof and the inside ceiling please?? Much appreciated if you can ..
Great vid. Will there be an update on how you cover the open ends of each panel
Nice! Does Jo get her workroom now????
Almost!
I could not find them in USA We need them over here too! Well I know I want them!
Insulated panels are always the best solution for buildings such as this, personally I prefer a plastisol finish as it’s more hardwearing.
Way better finish. We have the plasticol on the smaller shed and it’s so much more durable. This stuff scuffs so easily. Still all galvanised but you have to be more careful at every stage of install.
Fair play getting those up on your own pal! I like the blend of technologies, looks good! Did you choose to have just one window, or were you limited by planning etc?
Once you’ve got lights in there the white should reflect nicely. Reckon you could hang a chain block off that ridge beam 💪
Just one window for now. Easier for filming to not have any south windows.
Wow nice work. I thought you could go higher with a pitched roof. I was under the impression that 2.5m was for flat roof
Any roof is 2.5m if close to the boundary otherwise 3m flat and 4m dual pitched.
@@TheRestorationCouple oh yes didn't realise the location.. Thanks. But such a great option, can't wait to see the finished result
Those panels look great. Can the roof panels take the weight of someone walking on them, to maybe clear leaves off in the spring?
Also what about lighting on the inside, say you wanted to find spot lights?
I will put a plastic conduit in the middle before spreying the foam for electric wiring..
You mention they can easily span 2m but do you happen to know maximum span for these on a low pitch roof? Great watch and work as always. Copying both of your sleeper wall techniques in my own garden very soon 💪👍
That’s is about it with this thickness, on paper at least. I’m sure they would go further but wind/snow may cause quite a bit of deflection. Typically they are used 1.5-1.8 centres when you look up at commercial roofs.
Excellent, a step closer
Looks so good
One question would be, could you not mitre the top edge to bring the panels closer together? Less spray foam or is there a reason it is like this.
Tim, do you think it's possible this type of construction to be used for a small house, let's say?! Cheers!
When are u going to show the ridge cap and flashing edges
Great idea looks awesome question is where can I find those panels