Which dive gear brands are good? - Scuba Brand Tier List - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024
- What's up scuba homies? In this video we take a deep dive into creating the ULTIMATE tier list for diver gear brands. Which dive gear brands are good? and which ones suck? Let me know what you think in the comments! This topic will be broken up into two videos. This video covers Apeks, Aqualung, Atomic, Cressi, Deep Six, Dive Rite, and Divesoft.
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Thanks, i enjoyed that.
Getting a B among a bunch of brands that are many times bigger and been around decades longer.. I am happy with that.
Chris- Founder/partner Deep 6
Well I'm happy to report that since the filming of this video, I have purchased and fallen in love with the eddy fins. They're worth at least a letter grade!
I'm gonna have to check out more deep6 gear at some point. I honestly haven't heard a bad thing yet.
Thanks for watching Chris!
@@DiveVibe just don't flutter them unless you REALLY wanna kill your legs, they are a frog kick flipper.
Yes, I said flipper. Cousteau, Hans Hass, UDT teams in WW2 and virtually all the early icons called them flippers, plus fish have fins and mammals have flippers, we are mammals😁. Added bonus is using the term flippers gets so many divers and instructors that take it all way too seriously worked up 😇... I don't use goggles however, that would be wrong. LOL
@chrisrichardson4899 loooool, I noticed that your site lists them as flippers and I knew it had to be deliberate. You've given me a lot to think about here, I need to go question my life. You may have convinced me.
I have been doing this a long time now (instructing) and having a newish OWSI overhear me call them flippers and trip over themselves to inform me that "divers wear fins, not flippers" is entertaining for me, I normally will let them go a while and make a comment like "maybe when I have enough dives I will be good enough to call them fins, I only have somewhere between 6-7,000 so far" .
OK, maybe I enjoy it all too much@@DiveVibe 😇
Atomic at a B? Are you insane?
would love to see this tier list but separated by regs, bcd, fins, etc
Dive rite fins are the best on the market, just bought a Choptima rebreather, definitely an S rating required for their innovations in tech and cave.
Apeks and scubapro regulators are easily the best on the market. Also easy to service with great parts accessibility.
Yes they are!
if we dont talk about atomic
Personally I prefer Aqua Lung and Halcyon because those brands seems really suit on me whenever I used them.
Awesome video!! Part 2 was awesome too! Excuse my rant on why I like atomics below hahaha
The cost of Apeks Tec Shorts... Fuck you Apeks. There's no way they cost that much!
I still bought them because the product seemed good. I'm getting wear showing up from the harness crotch strap. I saw a DM recently where the pocket fabric was gotten super thin and there was big hole in the pocket. I think he said they were lasting about a year. His were the older version with the pocket streamlining tabs (which seem to be unnecessary).
I'm going Deep6 regs next I think - being able to self-service is a killer feature. Currently have XDeep fins but I'll try Deep6 fins (or flippers as their CEO insists).
Lake Tahoe! That's my home lake! It's about 42 right now, too.
Edit: Deep6 is awesome!!
That's what I'm hearing! I think I might need to give them a shot.
@@DiveVibe Their regs are bulletproof. Mine have seen some abuse and plenty of cold in and out of the water. Had their first 2-year service a few months back with close to 200 dives on them. Zero issues. Even came with the service kits! Deep6 make the D6 line of DGX regs, too.
The only first stage regulator failure that I have ever witnessed, and I've been diving since 1996, is on a Cressi regulator. It literally blew apart.
Thank you for making this video!
My pleasure!
Thanks for posting this !
Oh man, looking forward to the Zeagle ranking. 😂😂
You're not gonna believe this, but the camera was overheating and Neal had to leave. So we skipped Zeagle.... I'm SORRY! I failed you.
@@DiveVibe 😂😂😂😂😂
Zach! Great to see you my friend! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Tom!
Great vid! Looking forward to part 2!
I like the idea but every company has their strong suits and their weak areas and they have their high end and low end
Oh yeah for sure, this is all in fun. Not to be taken seriously.
I think Zach was spot on about Cressi - solid C. They dont make anything exciting. Its just fine. If I end up with Cressi something I will be like "yeah.. ok..fine".
We need a new tier list for 2024
Yeah, Apeks is expensive in the US. They're a lot cheaper in Europe. Same goes for XDeep. Generally their gear is about 2/3rd of the price in the US.
I have a lot of Apeks stuff: Wings, regulators, spools, lights, fins, masks. They make amazing stuff. No knocking other brands, but I like their designs and design philosophies. They're definitely a brand that focuses more on the technical side of diving than say a Mares, Atomic Aquatics, or ScubaPro.
ummm what about Tusa, Mares, Zeagle...just some huge names in the sport, a few names I have never heard of were mentioned and rated highly and Ive been diving since 1991. Seems to be an overwhelming slant towards the rebreather family here a niche minority to your standard scuba sport world.
I talked about Mares and a lot more brands in part 2 (released today). Ran out of time and ended up skipping Zeagle and Tusa. I talk a lot about technical gear and rebreathers, because that's what I dive.
What about zeagle? Their bcds are pretty nice and while I only tried their f8 regulator, it breathes like a dream. Granted their f8 regulator wad in partnership with atomic so idk if that should count as a point for atomic or zeagle lol
I like a lot of zeagle stuff, probably B or A. Super robust stuff, but im not a huge fan of the ranger. I just think it's a bit big and floppy, but thats just me. I haven't looked at their new stuff, I should do that.
No hollis review?
That's in part 2! I'm editing it as we speak!
I disagree with your rating on Atomics. It’s an A in my opinion.
Let me present my case.
Yes, their BCD’s are not great for seasoned divers. But perfectly fine for their demographic. Rich folk that dives a couple times a year. Other than that. But everything else. Awesome masks!!, Great customer service. (Also under Hollis parent company) Their regulators ARE Amazing and extremely innovative and always trying to do better. They hold great patents. They have affordable to insane prices but all worth the price. Extremely reliable and don’t hold out their technology to just the big brands. Anything you buy from them you know will be extremely reliable, Made extremely well with grade A materials, quality inspected and one of the best in the market. I promise I’m Not associated with them either haha I just love their regs. And their AI inflator. Also Cobalt 2 is much better than Cobalt one. 1 sucked but they tried and they fixed it.
Hollis is not their parent company, Huish Outdoors is and they started with Atomic first before they bought Oceanic/Hollis (and other brands). In fact, the owner of Huish called his very nice and very impressive yacht "ATOMIC" using the Atomic logo, so.. not at all under Hollis in corporate structure nor mind of the owner.
In my best Emperor Palpatine voice "Embrace the hate of the split fin. Let the horror of the stupid design, weakness and resultant silt clouds flow through you."
You should give Deep Six an "INC" as your knowledge of their products is incomplete.
Seems like people really dig deep six. Have you used any of their stuff?
@@DiveVibe I haven't had the opportunity to try their gear. I'm pretty set with reliable cold and warm water gear that has been doing me right for years, from before Deep Six came into the market. However, I hear nothing but good things about the company and their gear.
Love my atomic m1, but other products don’t really care for
I would have to agree, especially now that they've released that weird ass air heater.
I like Deep6 regs and fins. I am replacing my Apeks with Deep6
Good to know! I think I gotta try out these deep6 regs.
@@DiveVibe They are amazing! Very well built balanced regulators for a price that you will not find anywhere else
doesn't sound like a great idea...but share the experience. :)
Cressi make all their own regs. They are the best breathing regs on the market.
Lol nope. The former maybe, but not the latter.
bbb-best breathing regs on the market??? 🤣🤣 youre killing me man!
The constant watching you all take drinks at the beginning of the video is very distracting, but I think you all are doing a good job on the review . In the continent was a great idea to do it that way.
We were thirsty! Thanks Patrick!
What about Bonassi?
Wow, I disgree with almost everything you guys said here. You were on the right track with Apek and their prices but lost that as soon as you moved on to Aqualung. Apeks has great regs and fins, but they're so pricey. You should factor in how much you're spending on these brands just for the name. Atomic regulators are great, but they require Christolube and are expensive to service. They're also part of the Huish Outdoors company that isn't very "service it yourself" friendly. The fact that you gave Divesoft an S over Diverite is criminal. The Chest Mounted Optima is *chefs kiss.*
Sounds like you should make a video too!
@@DiveVibe Not everyone has good camera presence or the personality to keep others entertained through videos. That doesn't mean those of us that don't do youtube videos don't have valid critiques.
@@Evanml1 You mean opinions. These are DiveVibe's opinions. You have your opinions.
Too colourful? #maketechnicaldivingcolorfulagain
XD
(interested to see how you rank the brands I'm rocking through, makes some fun lunch break watching.)
Lol, I like color. Aqualung stuff is getting a little out of hand. I have a pink eezycut holder??? Lol
@@DiveVibe My colours comes from -
Black/Blue Bare wetsuit
Pastel pinkish lavender and white Xdeep wing (i'd rate Xdeep A rank, fantastic gear, fucking awful customer service)
Pink marine cord on reg boltsnaps
Pink eezycut
Purpleish bigblue lights
Pink double enders
I was hoping to get pink fins, but I don't like how floppy the apex rk3's are, so ended up with black deepsix eddys (Totally awesome fins honestly, love em.)
I was using a purple atomics mask, but the thing either leaked or cut my forehead, so switched it out for a Hollis m1. (yet to get that wet though.)
Was it Aqualung that came out with those blue and white 100% plastic recycled fins? those are fairly pretty, look nice for simple rec fins.
@@Phoxinsocks This is the first I'm hearing of xdeep customer service being poor. Can you elaborate? Customer service is a huge part of how I form an opinion of a brand
@@DiveVibe sure can!
So I purchased a fairly expensive custom plate and wing from them, because I thought the plate shape may spread load across my small frame better. We are talking north of a thousand bucks kinda expensive. Paid for the expedited shipping at another 100 or so. Due date comes and goes, I sent emails, I contacted the dive shop I ordered it through to see if they could contact them and nothing. No replies, no reasons, just waiting. It eventually took almost 3 times longer than expected and I never heard a peep from xdeep, no return or offer of return of the speedyboi shipping fee. One of the guys at the dive shop (who loaned me one of their rental wings as a stop gap for xdeeps lack of delivery) also said he has regular issues getting into contact with them.
Now I adore my wing, it's cute as heck and functions flawlessly (although the webbing is a lil firm for my liking, might switch it out.) But not hearing a single word from them sorta put a sour taste in my mouth. I'm back and forth on getting a side mount setup from xdeep, purely because I'm worried if issues arise I'll hit a wall of no responses from them.
Honestly all it would have taken to unsour the taste would have been a quick 'sorry we are totally jammed right now, we are unable to meet shipment deadlines.' email.
The speed fee being returned would have been a cheery ontop.
You need to do this again, this time including Zeagle and Poseidon. Thanks!
Next time!
I think you are crazy with your list. Atomic is absolutely top with regs and ..... they do not need to produce all staff. Very similar Aqualung regs are great and quality of breathing is better than Apeks. Apeks is great for their technical diving products for sure but the breathing only is just OK. Dive rite BCD are ok for sure but regs are not to compare to top Aqualung or Mares or Apeks. Very strange list.
Nice!
Deep 6 is top shelf where have these guys been.
I've heard good things.
Cressi do regs. They're kinda meh. Nothing special, but won't kill you either.
Yeah I find that's how I feel about a lot of reg manufacturers. Nothing dangerous, but it's just not suited for the type of diving I do. Usually it comes down to the port layout. I just love the swivel turret/5th port design. I REALLY wanna try out the new xdeep regs, they look super interesting.
@@DiveVibe Same here. Mainly I'm looking at a combination of hose routing options and ease of service; in particular field service. Would love to take a look at the new XDEEPs too (or at least see a service manual).
@@tobiashartung856 Ease of service (and especially field service) are so important for higher level diving. I was just giving my sidewinder a once over and you can tell field repair was definitely considered when they designed it.
@@DiveVibe Why, that's awesome. I was thinking about getting into the sidewinder and that definitely carries some weight on the "go for it" side.
Horrible reviews didn't even put in the top manufacturer Scubapro and Mares.
Check out those brands in part 2!
There is no bad dive equipment….just some better than others!😉
Splitfins.
SpareAir
You seem more like the bums that sang I got high . In all situations. To get the best equipment you need to get equipment from many different companies. They are Good at different things.
I assure you, Afroman is not a vagrant.
Ah Split fins... Let's take a fin, split it up the middle, take ALL the strength out of the blade, then say it is a better fin!!!? Please.... And don't even get me started on the SEALS sitting on the sub, in split fins.... There are a world of idiots in military procurement.....
I've been diving for 13 years and was born in 1997
Split fins are so good
Where does dive rite rate??
I think we gave them an A? It's in one of the 2 parts.
Dive rite poorly made
Poorly finished, not poorly made. Their stuff is solid, but not cleaning up mold flashes sets it back a couple of rungs.
Mares, Scubapro, Apeks, Atomic, and Aqualung make the best regulators on the market imho. You can't go wrong with any of their mid to top tier regs.