@@hx2975it’s not a myth tho lol. It works just fine. Reason people do it so often is half the time you don’t have vinegar and if you do your momma/wife/girlfriend ain’t letting you waste all her vinegar to clean up your bike, car and or other Rusty shit
Vinegar is already obscenely cheap, i dont really think soda is going to save much money, when vinegar is a stronger acid that takes off more rust, and does it faster.
The 5% white vinegar is a few bucks. You can get 30% white vinegar at Home depot for around $15 a jug...but it works so much better removing rust or adding to laundry.
Yea that comes at 30% vs the grocery store vinegar at 5%. Even at the 5% stuff I dilute it down to around 3%. So you could get the strong stuff and stretch it a long way by diluting it. It's more expensive but I haven't done the math on if it would be cheaper in the end after diluting it.
@@oneupmotogarage it would almost certainly be cheaper to buy a highly concentrated version and dilute it. By a considerable amount as well. Think of it like buying everclear to make your own cocktails, instead of buying beer. You get way more value per unit of ingredient
@@oneupmotogaragelike 1/5 the price here, and even grocery stores sell 12% now as cleaning vinegar so that's also like 1/3 the price and requires walking three aisles over.
the problem is they misunderstand the lesson, coke can remove rust but so can stomach acid. the lesson was about how fizzy drinks are bad it is for your teeth and you, with fear mongering, like and we drink that
It's an older thing, and it's a Coca-Cola thing not a generic cola thing. And maybe not for this specific use, but for something smaller when you had nothing else, worked like Vinegar pretty much, albeit with some stickiness. Small town shit
@@oneupmotogarageFrom my experience with citric acid, I can say with confidence that its rust-removing properties are better when heated. I usually heat it from 60 to 80 degrees Celsius. Then it must be neutralized with a solution of soda ash and water.
@@oneupmotogaragecitric acid has 3 hydrogen it can give so rince it out thoroughly and neutralize it since a little bit of citric acid will corrode metals for longer if it stays there, also don’t do it on concrete it will destroy it
There’s a cleaning base vinegar out there six times stronger than original vinegar. It’s like 20 bucks for a gallon and you can find it out like Home Depot and Lowe’s.
So good to know this. I had a 300ex I was working on and had gaps in between breaks of a week or more. Basically working on it on weekends. Somehow my tank got all rusted on the inside and I'm not sure if it was from it being empty, leaving the top off, or both. I'll definitely try this next time cuz what I tried damn sure didn't work that well
Best thing ive ever used for rust is WD40's rust remover. I used to use vinegar. I restored old tools as a hobby. One time the vinegar ate away too much material and destroyed a makers mark on a pretty sought after axe brand. Never used vinegar since.
@@mare5335 weird, I’ve never noticed it effect good metal at all. Now when I have real rusted tanks it’ll eat all the way through them sometimes but that’s it just dissolving deep rust. Maybe the really strong 30% cleaning vin could do damage. But 5%, especially diluted to 2.5% is harmless to good metal, even after a week of soaking.
As well as vinegar can work or not in some cases, it is still removing rust with acid. There is a better way, removing rust trough chelation, wich will leave base metal almost untouched. Commercial products such as evaporust work in this way, however they are not cheap, but you can make your own mix that works the same way if not even better using citric acid and soda (sodium bicarbonate) and some dish soap. Best part is you can use it over and over, it takes quite a bit for it to get saturated. As youtube doesn't allow me to share a link look for for "ultimate honemade rust remover (better than evaporust)" video by Beyond Ballistics on youtube for exact recipe as well as comparison test vs other stuff used for rust removal including vinegar and few commercial rust removers.
vinegar doesn't react chemically with steel, only rust. the only way it'll corrode the base metal is if it's allowed to rust while in the vinegar. placing the steel in contact with aluminum will prevent it from oxidizing.
Pick up 35% acid vinegar in bulk. It's about 7 times stronger than regular white vinegar. A wonderful opportunity to wear gloves for safety. Saving some coin is nice, but saving space in tight quarters is crucial.
It happened to me long time ago, rust clogged my carbs and I couldn't ride for weeks until I could fix it, since then I swore I would never buy a bike with a metal tank and boy that was the best decision of my life, never had any issues with bikes with plastic tanks ! :)
What you really need is skyco ospho. It's phosphoric acid. And I've used it specifically for de-rusting gas tanks right before putting in a new liner. The benefit I get from phosphoric acid is that it creates a coating that prevents flash rusting, ideal for applying metal sealers and paints.
I tend to use electrolysis, always have a lab bench psu ready, just need a bolt and ph plus granulate i get from the pool section at a hardware store for 5€/KG
What i did years ago was using sulfuric acid (battery acid) some generic engine oil (but just a touch) and gravel. Put everything in the tank, wrapped everything in towels and put it into a concrete mixer from my neighbor. The acid desolves the rust and the gravel has abrasive properties. I used oil to bind all the metal/rust dust to have a polishing effect in the end. Works very good but is loud as hell
@@paulg.4139 Interesting strat sounds effective! Though sulfuric is a little strong, I might stick with vinegar. Did you have flash rusting problems after or would you neutralize the acid with something?
@@oneupmotogarage I used just water but I guess you can use soda to neutralize the acid. I did not use any coating afterwards. But you have to keep the tank full at all times otherwise it will oxidize quickly.
@oneupmotogarage acid is a strong oxidized so it's very important to get it all out. But you can use tank coatings afterwards. I have no experience with that but that should at least help to keep it from rusting to quickly
If you want phosphoric acid, I am wondering why not just buy it & use it? Caswell makes the best tank liner. Holds up to ethanol. Been using it for about 15 years.
@@oneupmotogarage I use the industrial 99% vinegar the por 15 metal prep the the sealer. I’ve done this with 2 old 1960s cars I can’t get a tank for and it works great. Just something to think about POR15 tank sealer they have a whole kit but the sealer it’s self is 20/30 bucks.
Oxalic acid is the way. 10 pounds for like $40. That’s enough to clean dozens and dozens of tanks. Also works great for reviving carbs that have been ruined due to water exposure. And cleaning out gross cooling systems.
tanks tend to flash rust after using vinegar if you don't neutralise it immidiately after derusting. it's why people prefer rust converters to removers.
Everyone commenting about the brand has no clue what they're talking about. Cola is the same. The taste might be slightly different but the chemical makeup is no different. Yes, cola will clean rust but it's only slightly and hardly at all without scrubbing afterwards.
@@cherriberri8373 for taste, totally I agree they are all very different. For converting rust, they’re effectively the same. Where sodas have around .055% acid content, compare that to PA for rust removal is usually around 30%, which would be lethal to drink. So, the lesson here is no beverage has anywhere close to the strength needed to efficiently convert rust.
There's this video by Beyond Ballistics where he mixed citric acid with soda, to partially neutralise the acid and prevent it from dissolving any base metal and retain the chelating effect of citrate. I haven't tried it but i use citric acid myself for rust removal.
Coke may CONTAIN acid but vinegar IS acidic. Coke has a list of ingredients including phosphoric acid, sugar etc. which overall reduce the acidity by dilution. But vinegar is just vinegar. It's used for cleaning all the time.
Vinegar has pH of 2.4, coke has 2.7 and diet coke has 3.1. No idea what the store brand cola used has. In addition part of the acidity comes from the carbonic acid which is very mild acid and doesn't do anything to rust. So even though it's almost as acidic as vinegar, there is nowhere near as much phosphoric acid as the pH might suggest.
I'd bet propping up the rear wheel and running it in gear with vinegar on a grunge brush would do it. I'd watch it if soaking it. I'd try WD40 and a grunge brush first personally, then gear oil on the brush to re-lube. Vinegar getting tossed off the chain might have unwanted consequences on other parts
@@dodecahedron1 This is very hard to confirm. But IF Coke has more acid than the off brand, it would be less than 0.1% more, way less than would make any difference in rust cleaning. For reference phosphoric acid needs to be in a concentration of 3-5% min to be efficient (not safe to consume), high acid sodas contain about .055%.
There is a recipe on RUclips for best rust remover, as much as I remember it's vinegar, baking soda and dish soap. I don't remember the exact ratios but you can try searching
Vinegar is obviously going to be better, so would actual rust remover. However the brand also matters as both Coke and Pepsi have patented and trademarked chemical formulas that make them unique. Coke is the most acidic brand of Cola and it being used to remove rust was originally done as a demonstration for why you shouldn’t drink it. Yet some people totally missed the point and think it’s a great rust remover
The point is to use something cheap AND easy to find that does a good job Vinegar you can get at just about ANY store and does the job great and costs a couple dollars per gallon, and it’s also non toxic if you spill it on stuff or on you Where and for how much is this acid available?
I don’t understand why everyone wants to believe that soda pop is the magic fix for rust. Vinegar is obviously better due to concentration and it’s literally cheaper..
From a chemistry perspective, acetic acid (vinegar) is a stronger acid than phosphoric acid so you would need a much higher concentration to do the same work
I have my tank filled with ammonia. I’ve heard that works just gonna give it quite a bit more time and see the results. Someone remind me in two months (hopefully my bike rebuild finishes before that)
Maybe this is out of topic, but I have seen diesel used as a "cleaner" when doing an oil change. No flush, no running engine. Just taking out the drain plug, and let it drain with half a gallon of diesel
@@klrmoto Soda definitely isn’t but vinegar is comparable in end result to Evaporust at about 1/10th the cost. But Evaporust is a great product 👍 just pricey.
Vinegar is the way to go, I get the 30% from the local hardware store and just dilute it down to around 3% in solution to clean my tanks, and it lasts forever
Off-brand cokes aren't the same. Besides, Monster Energy is the real rust remover. I've gotten it from several mechanics that it'll clean and polish rusted metal surfaces like any of the pro-chemicals. My dad and me tried it one year and, yeah, it works.
As soon as someone tells you to clean with coke or recommends mixing baking soda with an acid of some sort (to clean with), you can safely ignore everything else they say.
@@dopeylindstrom2236 what makes you think name brand has more acid? If it did work better the cost would make it not competitive as a cleaner. I think the lesson here is that food safe levels of phosphoric acid aren’t strong enough to efficiently convert rust.
Oh for fuck's sake. No it does not. Took me five seconds to figure that out with Google. Why would you use a less acidic product to clean? Just use vinegar, plus it's cheaper.
In my neck of the wood vineagar is half the cost of soda per liter. Plus the acid concentration is much higher. I'll never understand people who settle for something that double the price and only 1/3 the effectiveness.
Prep and etch is phosphoric acid. Cheap and available in all home goods stores in a diluted but more pure form. Lol yeah it's in soda too just like vinegar is in my BBQ sauce but I wouldn't use BBQ to clean rust. People in here talking bout getting the right brand of soda like that's any easier than just buying the right thing in the first place 😂
Coke is something you use in a pinch as an alternative if it’s all you have. It’s not a first choice option. It’s sugary and carbonated which makes a sticky mess
Use citric acid that has been neutralized with baking soda. the citrate ions will do a better job at removing the rust without etching the actual metal.
Wish people would just accept white vinegar is better and stop raving about soda for rust.
It's a huge myth here in the south
@@hx2975it’s not a myth tho lol. It works just fine. Reason people do it so often is half the time you don’t have vinegar and if you do your momma/wife/girlfriend ain’t letting you waste all her vinegar to clean up your bike, car and or other Rusty shit
@@squigga5780 us adults have our own vinegar because, you know, we're adults.
@@squigga5780 Just buy some damn cheap vinegar, they are cheaper than soda by any metric.
@@squigga5780 If you can go to the store to get soda you can get vinegar it's cheaper and better :/
Vinegar is already obscenely cheap, i dont really think soda is going to save much money, when vinegar is a stronger acid that takes off more rust, and does it faster.
Yea it cost more for the cheapest soda to fill this tank than it cost in vinegar, and the vinegar actually worked!
Vinegar is even cheaper if you buy the concentrated version and dilute it with water.
2.79$ for a gallon, use it all the time for rust and cleaning. Great at killing smells too!
The 5% white vinegar is a few bucks. You can get 30% white vinegar at Home depot for around $15 a jug...but it works so much better removing rust or adding to laundry.
@@SkulllywagI would not be using 30% for laundry.
Vinegar from home Depot, aka industrial cleaning vinegar aka more concentrated acetic acid is basically the cheapest rust remover
Yea that comes at 30% vs the grocery store vinegar at 5%. Even at the 5% stuff I dilute it down to around 3%. So you could get the strong stuff and stretch it a long way by diluting it. It's more expensive but I haven't done the math on if it would be cheaper in the end after diluting it.
@@oneupmotogarage it would almost certainly be cheaper to buy a highly concentrated version and dilute it. By a considerable amount as well. Think of it like buying everclear to make your own cocktails, instead of buying beer. You get way more value per unit of ingredient
Make sure to use an exhaust fan or do it outside. I made that mistake... sigh.
@@RUclipsr69428Damn I didn't notice before, everclear is pretty darn cheap. Like a bottle of decent vodka cheap.
@@oneupmotogaragelike 1/5 the price here, and even grocery stores sell 12% now as cleaning vinegar so that's also like 1/3 the price and requires walking three aisles over.
People really think coke works like those 5min craft videos
the problem is they misunderstand the lesson, coke can remove rust but so can stomach acid. the lesson was about how fizzy drinks are bad it is for your teeth and you, with fear mongering, like and we drink that
The simple reason for it is as you mentioned. They watch 5 minute craft videos. Not much brain activity going on on those kind of people's heads.
Coke as in Coke-a-Cola WAS the best, about 50 years ago. Cola is not the same and Coke is not the same as it was.
Just use vinegar.
It's an older thing, and it's a Coca-Cola thing not a generic cola thing. And maybe not for this specific use, but for something smaller when you had nothing else, worked like Vinegar pretty much, albeit with some stickiness. Small town shit
soft drinks *happen* to be very acidic, vinegar was *made* to be very acidic
Citric acid can be a cheaper alternative to vinegar, and you can add in more or less powder depending on desired acidity
Yea I would like to try that next. Many have recommended it with hot water. Do you know if it still needs to be neutralized to avoid flash rusting?
@@oneupmotogarage maybe you should for safe measures
@@oneupmotogarageFrom my experience with citric acid, I can say with confidence that its rust-removing properties are better when heated. I usually heat it from 60 to 80 degrees Celsius. Then it must be neutralized with a solution of soda ash and water.
@@kramavtomotiv I'll test it next and see how it compares to final result, price, and effort vs vinegar 👍
@@oneupmotogaragecitric acid has 3 hydrogen it can give so rince it out thoroughly and neutralize it since a little bit of citric acid will corrode metals for longer if it stays there, also don’t do it on concrete it will destroy it
Everyone so badly wants to find some trendy way to clean or do shit. Spend twice the price trying to “save money” 😂
There’s a cleaning base vinegar out there six times stronger than original vinegar. It’s like 20 bucks for a gallon and you can find it out like Home Depot and Lowe’s.
regular vinegar is $2 per gallon, so...
So good to know this. I had a 300ex I was working on and had gaps in between breaks of a week or more. Basically working on it on weekends. Somehow my tank got all rusted on the inside and I'm not sure if it was from it being empty, leaving the top off, or both. I'll definitely try this next time cuz what I tried damn sure didn't work that well
Best thing ive ever used for rust is WD40's rust remover. I used to use vinegar. I restored old tools as a hobby. One time the vinegar ate away too much material and destroyed a makers mark on a pretty sought after axe brand. Never used vinegar since.
@@mare5335 weird, I’ve never noticed it effect good metal at all. Now when I have real rusted tanks it’ll eat all the way through them sometimes but that’s it just dissolving deep rust. Maybe the really strong 30% cleaning vin could do damage. But 5%, especially diluted to 2.5% is harmless to good metal, even after a week of soaking.
Cleaning old coins with vinegar is a big no-no for a very good reason, so I have to disagree with you there
As well as vinegar can work or not in some cases, it is still removing rust with acid. There is a better way, removing rust trough chelation, wich will leave base metal almost untouched. Commercial products such as evaporust work in this way, however they are not cheap, but you can make your own mix that works the same way if not even better using citric acid and soda (sodium bicarbonate) and some dish soap. Best part is you can use it over and over, it takes quite a bit for it to get saturated. As youtube doesn't allow me to share a link look for for "ultimate honemade rust remover (better than evaporust)" video by Beyond Ballistics on youtube for exact recipe as well as comparison test vs other stuff used for rust removal including vinegar and few commercial rust removers.
vinegar doesn't react chemically with steel, only rust. the only way it'll corrode the base metal is if it's allowed to rust while in the vinegar. placing the steel in contact with aluminum will prevent it from oxidizing.
Pick up 35% acid vinegar in bulk. It's about 7 times stronger than regular white vinegar. A wonderful opportunity to wear gloves for safety.
Saving some coin is nice, but saving space in tight quarters is crucial.
Yea you could dilute that down 10x, may be cheaper in the end.
I found something like 90% vinegar on Amazon. That stuff is really interesting. Proper protection equipment is mandatory with this.
I can recomend hot mustard. You should make a Video about it!
Try citric acid (lemon salt ) is efficient for rust removal but you need to protect the surface after cleaning to avoid rust again
Why the fuck would you bother, when you can just use vinegar?
Vinegar is a great cleansing agent, works great in a 5050 Sol with water to clean stained glass
Used citric acid aboard ship on deck plates-- worked great. Used vinegar last winter on a minibike tank- also worked great.
It happened to me long time ago, rust clogged my carbs and I couldn't ride for weeks until I could fix it, since then I swore I would never buy a bike with a metal tank and boy that was the best decision of my life, never had any issues with bikes with plastic tanks ! :)
What you really need is skyco ospho. It's phosphoric acid. And I've used it specifically for de-rusting gas tanks right before putting in a new liner. The benefit I get from phosphoric acid is that it creates a coating that prevents flash rusting, ideal for applying metal sealers and paints.
I tend to use electrolysis, always have a lab bench psu ready, just need a bolt and ph plus granulate i get from the pool section at a hardware store for 5€/KG
You should try "The Ultimate HOMEMADE Rust Remover" as seen in Beyond Ballistics' video
What i did years ago was using sulfuric acid (battery acid) some generic engine oil (but just a touch) and gravel. Put everything in the tank, wrapped everything in towels and put it into a concrete mixer from my neighbor. The acid desolves the rust and the gravel has abrasive properties. I used oil to bind all the metal/rust dust to have a polishing effect in the end. Works very good but is loud as hell
@@paulg.4139 Interesting strat sounds effective! Though sulfuric is a little strong, I might stick with vinegar. Did you have flash rusting problems after or would you neutralize the acid with something?
@@oneupmotogarage I used just water but I guess you can use soda to neutralize the acid. I did not use any coating afterwards. But you have to keep the tank full at all times otherwise it will oxidize quickly.
@@paulg.4139 yea I use baking soda to flush it out after the vinegar or it’ll flash rust worse than it started 😅
@oneupmotogarage acid is a strong oxidized so it's very important to get it all out. But you can use tank coatings afterwards. I have no experience with that but that should at least help to keep it from rusting to quickly
I love evapo-rust especially for small parts, works pretty much the same as vinegar but you can reuse it until it's completely dark
you can reuse vinegar too.
If you want phosphoric acid, I am wondering why not just buy it & use it? Caswell makes the best tank liner. Holds up to ethanol. Been using it for about 15 years.
Vinegar will also clean your radiator from lime scale
You can get tank sealer for like 20 bucks and have it zinc coated and it will be good forever with whatever gas
zinc coating is an interesting idea I've been tossing around. I might have to try it.
@@oneupmotogarage I use the industrial 99% vinegar the por 15 metal prep the the sealer. I’ve done this with 2 old 1960s cars I can’t get a tank for and it works great. Just something to think about POR15 tank sealer they have a whole kit but the sealer it’s self is 20/30 bucks.
Oxalic acid is the way. 10 pounds for like $40. That’s enough to clean dozens and dozens of tanks. Also works great for reviving carbs that have been ruined due to water exposure. And cleaning out gross cooling systems.
Heard that one a few times, I'll have to check it out!
Por15 Fuel Tank Sealer is good for ethanol. Did a old Yamaha over a decade ago and its still mint.
tanks tend to flash rust after using vinegar if you don't neutralise it immidiately after derusting. it's why people prefer rust converters to removers.
Yea I always neutralize with a swish of baking soda water before drying it out. My other tank cleaning short is more thorough on that.
little river rocks works good for sanding the inside of the tank also
There's always a professional on the internet. Usually 13 years old. "I'll just use Fanta. Thanks" 😊
Great video. I had no idea vinegar could do that.
Everyone commenting about the brand has no clue what they're talking about. Cola is the same. The taste might be slightly different but the chemical makeup is no different. Yes, cola will clean rust but it's only slightly and hardly at all without scrubbing afterwards.
No it makes a difference
@@ryanturner3432 💯💯💯 The lesson here is soda doesn’t have nearly enough acid to efficiently convert rust. Also myths are hard to kill 😆
I will say, to say there's no difference is definitely not right but I agree overall. But even within coke products, the pH can range by about .5
@@cherriberri8373 for taste, totally I agree they are all very different. For converting rust, they’re effectively the same. Where sodas have around .055% acid content, compare that to PA for rust removal is usually around 30%, which would be lethal to drink. So, the lesson here is no beverage has anywhere close to the strength needed to efficiently convert rust.
Wrong
You should try using on-brand Mtn Dew. It can completely dissolve a rat within a few weeks, bones and all
Yeah vinegar is really good that's what I clean my washer and my dishwasher with
Add a tad bit of peroxide to the vinegar and mix it well before you out it in the vinegar makes the reaction more energetic and it will do it quickern
you're just converting more steel to rust and making the damage worse.
Phosphoric acid has a reaction with iron oxide ( Rust ) but its not like vinegar which turns the oxide into a water soluble salt :D
Yep
It's better to use phosphoric acid after removing the rust with strong vinegar.
There's this video by Beyond Ballistics where he mixed citric acid with soda, to partially neutralise the acid and prevent it from dissolving any base metal and retain the chelating effect of citrate. I haven't tried it but i use citric acid myself for rust removal.
could have just used vinegar, which doesn't dissolve the base metal by default.
Do you need to neutralize with baking soda or something after?
Coke may CONTAIN acid but vinegar IS acidic. Coke has a list of ingredients including phosphoric acid, sugar etc. which overall reduce the acidity by dilution. But vinegar is just vinegar. It's used for cleaning all the time.
Vinegar has pH of 2.4, coke has 2.7 and diet coke has 3.1. No idea what the store brand cola used has. In addition part of the acidity comes from the carbonic acid which is very mild acid and doesn't do anything to rust. So even though it's almost as acidic as vinegar, there is nowhere near as much phosphoric acid as the pH might suggest.
Just use powdered Citric Acid, and add water. You will not have to smell vinegar again 😂. Keep in mind to add more if it doesn't work as you wish.
Can this fix rusting on the chains and sprockets and safe for reuse?
I'd bet propping up the rear wheel and running it in gear with vinegar on a grunge brush would do it. I'd watch it if soaking it. I'd try WD40 and a grunge brush first personally, then gear oil on the brush to re-lube. Vinegar getting tossed off the chain might have unwanted consequences on other parts
Lots of Colombia's use gas tanks to store coke in also , especially when crossing borders, But there coke is White and comes in powder form .
Would 45% agricultural vinegar work better? Faster? just regular white vinegar is enough?
what is it with these commenters obsession with coke?
I never would have predicted the power of brand loyalty.
To get more sale
coke is more acidic than other brands
@@dodecahedron1 This is very hard to confirm. But IF Coke has more acid than the off brand, it would be less than 0.1% more, way less than would make any difference in rust cleaning. For reference phosphoric acid needs to be in a concentration of 3-5% min to be efficient (not safe to consume), high acid sodas contain about .055%.
There is a recipe on RUclips for best rust remover, as much as I remember it's vinegar, baking soda and dish soap. I don't remember the exact ratios but you can try searching
…did you fail chemistry because that recipe would not work for a very big reason
Vinegar is obviously going to be better, so would actual rust remover. However the brand also matters as both Coke and Pepsi have patented and trademarked chemical formulas that make them unique. Coke is the most acidic brand of Cola and it being used to remove rust was originally done as a demonstration for why you shouldn’t drink it. Yet some people totally missed the point and think it’s a great rust remover
I carry a surprising amount of undiluted phosphoric acid in my work van, it's used to clean the ice makers
Have you tried cleaning vinegar? It's much stronger than regular cooking vinegar
Have you tried oxalic acid which sold for rust removal.
The point is to use something cheap AND easy to find that does a good job
Vinegar you can get at just about ANY store and does the job great and costs a couple dollars per gallon, and it’s also non toxic if you spill it on stuff or on you
Where and for how much is this acid available?
Vinegar is magic. It works for everything.
An 1,25 liter bottle of vinegar at the store costs me 69 cents
The same amount of cheap coke costs me 99 cent and it does a worse job
you what to take some rust off? use an oxalic acid solution and warm it up for awhile
or just use cheaper, easier to get vinegar that works perfectly fine at room temp and doesn't leave corrosive residue.
I don’t understand why everyone wants to believe that soda pop is the magic fix for rust. Vinegar is obviously better due to concentration and it’s literally cheaper..
From a chemistry perspective, acetic acid (vinegar) is a stronger acid than phosphoric acid so you would need a much higher concentration to do the same work
Yep! So much that drinking it would be not good.
Directions unclear: added a 20oz bottle of cocaine and now im on the internation space station
That is a good prove to what Coca-Cola can do to your gusts
Plain concerted phosphoric acid might work but it’s likely more expensive.
The vinegar one is BEAUtiful ✨
Right? I never get over how clean it gets it.
Props to you for using specifically not "coca cola" to make sure people bring it up in the comments
Jokes aside, IDC if coca cola washes off your clap, don't buy that garbage
I have my tank filled with ammonia. I’ve heard that works just gonna give it quite a bit more time and see the results. Someone remind me in two months (hopefully my bike rebuild finishes before that)
Use mountain dew
Have you tried getting straight phosphoric acid?
Cleaning soda is the best on metal rust or grease
There’s a uk company called por15 they make an ethanol resistant tank coating 👍
The coke trick for rust is for CHROME parts. With a crumpled wad of aluminum foil. Still got to get the sugar off, then wax to protect.
Unfortunately in Ontario Canada, there no longer is ethanol free high octane petrol.
New tip goto a local hardware store and get Cleaning vinegar...it's 30% vinegar,where the food grade vinegar is 5%
How do you lightly coat the tank with wd40? A rag or something?
Phosphoric acid would work great. And you can get it pretty cheap in bulk, as long as you have a business.
Maybe this is out of topic, but I have seen diesel used as a "cleaner" when doing an oil change. No flush, no running engine. Just taking out the drain plug, and let it drain with half a gallon of diesel
Is this better than CRC evapo-rust from harbor freight or is it just a cost thing?
@@klrmoto Soda definitely isn’t but vinegar is comparable in end result to Evaporust at about 1/10th the cost. But Evaporust is a great product 👍 just pricey.
@@oneupmotogarage Thanks for the great information.
Vinegar is the way to go, I get the 30% from the local hardware store and just dilute it down to around 3% in solution to clean my tanks, and it lasts forever
@@TheShivABC nice! I was thinking of trying that, bet it’s cheaper in the end.
Or use phosphoric acid right away. Did that with my tank worked quite well.
Off-brand cokes aren't the same. Besides, Monster Energy is the real rust remover. I've gotten it from several mechanics that it'll clean and polish rusted metal surfaces like any of the pro-chemicals. My dad and me tried it one year and, yeah, it works.
As soon as someone tells you to clean with coke or recommends mixing baking soda with an acid of some sort (to clean with), you can safely ignore everything else they say.
Try brick clearer, next level about white vinegar
Barely, vinegar is like 10x stronger and costs less, or you can use specific rust remover and it’ll remove it 100x faster
Use phosphoric acid AFTER cleaning the rust out with the vinegar.
Oh, I was here for a different type of video.
They meant cocaine
Coca cola. Not generic cola. There was some speculation on dr pepper dye to very high carbonation as well
@@dopeylindstrom2236 what makes you think name brand has more acid? If it did work better the cost would make it not competitive as a cleaner. I think the lesson here is that food safe levels of phosphoric acid aren’t strong enough to efficiently convert rust.
@@oneupmotogaragecoca cola has more acid than generic coke does
Oh for fuck's sake. No it does not. Took me five seconds to figure that out with Google. Why would you use a less acidic product to clean? Just use vinegar, plus it's cheaper.
@@brandonwester1329 google “does Coca Cola have more acid than generic coke” and it says it is more acidic. Keep crying clown 🤡
give it up man. you lose this one. admit it
Wonder if this will work on my 92 Yamaha XJ600S Seca II tank thats hella rusted
In my neck of the wood vineagar is half the cost of soda per liter. Plus the acid concentration is much higher.
I'll never understand people who settle for something that double the price and only 1/3 the effectiveness.
Prep and etch is phosphoric acid. Cheap and available in all home goods stores in a diluted but more pure form. Lol yeah it's in soda too just like vinegar is in my BBQ sauce but I wouldn't use BBQ to clean rust. People in here talking bout getting the right brand of soda like that's any easier than just buying the right thing in the first place 😂
I hear ya! I'll try toilet bowl cleaner next, been getting a lot of suggestions for that.
Any 2k epoxy holds up fine i like cashwells as it seems to do the best at everything and takes methanol and e85 fine
How concentrated it is. Herethey usualy i think sell with 5proc to rest water
Ethanol gas is terrible in many ways
KBS tank sealer holds very well to ethanol
whats your opinion on the yamaha r1
Sorry, you get non-ethanol gas from where, exactly? We’re forced to use it in England…
Imagine having non ethanol gas for sale in your state, sounds like a dream to me.
Can you use aluminum bright for the next tank
@@Thekidsinafrica14 first suggestion for that one. What’s the theory there? What is that made of?
@@oneupmotogarageI use it on the boat all the time, it’s a mild acid. Works great for rust and even taking the rust color off the paint.
@@Thekidsinafrica14 interesting!
Coke is something you use in a pinch as an alternative if it’s all you have. It’s not a first choice option. It’s sugary and carbonated which makes a sticky mess
Use citric acid that has been neutralized with baking soda. the citrate ions will do a better job at removing the rust without etching the actual metal.
Fosforic acid rust remover works just fine diluted to around 30% soaked my cars brake calipers for about week and got rust completely off
@@allux8236 a WEEK! I never soak with vinegar more than 48hrs and it always looks like new.
PHOSPHORIC
Just a question why don't road bikes use plastic like moto and and alot of cars.
Vinegar works great, but can make the metal flash rust
If coke still had cocaine I bet it would work 😂
The best way for cleaning is to buy both vinegar and coke, use the vinegar inside the tank, and drink the coke while you're doing it.
Coca Cola is not as acidic as vinegar. It's that simple. Coca Cola has a PH of ~2.6 and vinegar is ~2.4.
@@dash1dash2 yes, also we’re comparing different acids. Phosphoric vs acetic. Which react to rust very differently.