The whole problem stems from some idiot employee of the city who made an error by according a permit for the building next door to be changed from commercial zoning to residential zoning. The new owner bought 8 years ago fully knowing it was next to an operational concert venue, but decided to heavily invest in renovations so he could rent them out as expensive apartments. Thanks to these two idiots we are loosing a historical venue.
@@glowbright Right! And there have to be solutions that he could have applied from inside his apartment. There have to be wall coverings that could have not only made cohabitation easier, it would have made his investment more profitable because the apartment would have been more livable. The way I see it, he completely wasted those 8 years of his life. He couldn't have been happy, he must have been completely consumed by this. Best thing for him would be just to move away, start over somewhere else, put this behind him. Nothing good can come from any of this.
When the owner bought the building next to La Tulipe, it was a commercial building and he transform it for residential. The city actually made the mistake to allowed that transformation even tough it was against their own rules.... The owner knew there was a show venue next to his building... Anyway, its a big mess!
As for the history, look into "Le Théâtre des Variétés", to understand its significance. It provided slapstick, social commentary, blue-collar humor, theatre and music shows and was very popular, back in the days (60's-70s). It was converted as a concert venue later. In the late 90s and early 2000s, following the "C'est Extra" events, mixing vintage french hits and other forgotten "yéyé" music, it created a special vibe that was festive and gave a new life to this venue, after its 1960-1970s heyday. Si on perd La Tulipe, on perd un bout de l'histoire de Montréal, en quelque part.
My feeling is that there's something political about this. The person working for the city that delivered the residential permit that was a commercial building did not make it by accident, these errors don't happen whatever they are telling you. Someone or a group probably wanted the bar closed and they came up with this strategy to achieve their goal.
Same case with the Gay Village few years a go some big Boss don't want new Bar open so He hired people complain about the coming noise next to his 🤣, and the City stopped it , and the Big Boss bar is now in the state of being a white Elephant due other new bars have opened in a close distance with his 🤣
I've seen many shows at La Tulipe which has always supported french Quebecois culture. I even have an upcoming show of Avec pas D'Casque on Nov 28 at La Tulipe, not sure what will happen to this show. The city of Montreal changed their bylaw couple of days ago and there needs to be a second reading to allow the change to go through on Oct 7. Hopefully La Tulipe will then be able to reopen. This whole situation is Kafkaesque, this man buys a property adjacent to a live music theatre that has been there for 100 years and then complains about the noise, what a moron. The city of Montreal should have changed their bylaws long time ago instead of letting the judicial system run for 8 years and the theatre owner spend tens of thousands of dollars on this fight all on their own, shame on the city for such lack of consideration for our culture.
If you’re moving next to a bar or a venue you have absolutely no right to complain about noise. You moved there voluntarily, you know the consequences of your actions.
There have been people who either moved, and/or built houses near gun ranges then tried to get them to shut down partly on the noise issue. Do not move next to a gun range if you don't like guns, do not move next to a concert hall if you don't like noise; what was there first takes precedence. Maybe not move to the city at all if you don't like noise.
That a horrible new they closed :(. I had the chance to se Korplikani in march and it such a great place for show ! I hope the tide turn in their favor to preserve this historical building. Other wise this is another episode of the transition period. Yes i mean a transition to future like 2077 in the 2050 '....
Zero sympathy for the fact of people who knew that it was a music venue! Shame on the city for allowing a residential building to be built right next to it. More worrisome is the fact that the city allowed Condos to be built at the place du festival on the old Spectrum site.
Sounds like what happened to the Maples Inn on Lakeshore Road in Pointe Claire many years ago. One of the best music venues at the time. It had been there close to a 100 years, locals started to complain about the noise, the city couldn’t do much so eventually the locals torched the place. Bunch of ugly townhouses sit on the location now. Sad when the kids loose these iconic venues. 🤔
Who's wining? which side? Are the new laws just a propose? Do you think Canadian lawmakers said that to "calm" the protest? That's how you loose historic places.
There are rivalry in business too , there was a case in the gay Village a few years ago when some one wanted to open a new Bar there was a guy rumored to be the ''God Father'' of Bars hiring people to complain about the coming noise which is in the middle of all Bars and the City stopped it from becoming a Bar , and guess what ? that God Father's Bar is now dying , no one is going there anymore , while other small bars have sprung up getting all his customers in a close distance 🎉🎉🎉👍
I have mixed feelings about this. In a way, used to be an iconic building but since the people who exploited the place didn't respect the history and the beauty of the interior I'm not sad for them, I'm sad to loose yet another place of history in Montreal. But for what it's worth, I lived many years next door of that venue and it wasn't noisy at all.
@@glowbright That's because you probably haven't seen it before it was painted black and dark red. But the main thing is that it was in desperate needs of refurbishment, lots of mold in their trust me.
@@martinbelec1826Just to clarify, it wasn't a bar and music venue for 100 years. It's first purpose was a cinema, since then it have served many purposes such as a Jehovah witness church, but it has been for most of its years Gilles Latullippe theatre who wasn't happy about the new name.
@@guillaumeleblanc4542 oui je connais bien l'histoire de ce théâtre et j'y suis aller souvent voir des spectacles. Il est sous forme du La Tulipe depuis 2004 je pense et il était un théâtre avec Gilles Latulipe avant ça. Il demeure que celui qui a acheté le local adjacent savait qu' il achetait un local voisin d'une salle de spectacle donc qu' il vienne se plaindre du bruit ensuite est grotesque selon moi.
At this point, let's hope soundproofing is a viable way forward. However, this sort of issue is what needed to be considered and negotiated before a change of use went ahead.
@@thoughtsontravelandlife Latullipe has been there since 2004, saying that it's been there for 100 years is an overstatement as it was built in 1913 as a cinema, it was called the Dominion.
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May the man who fought La Tulipe in court for 8 years to get it to close never get a restful night of sleep again! Absolutely 0 sympathy deserved.
The whole problem stems from some idiot employee of the city who made an error by according a permit for the building next door to be changed from commercial zoning to residential zoning. The new owner bought 8 years ago fully knowing it was next to an operational concert venue, but decided to heavily invest in renovations so he could rent them out as expensive apartments. Thanks to these two idiots we are loosing a historical venue.
@@glowbright Right! And there have to be solutions that he could have applied from inside his apartment. There have to be wall coverings that could have not only made cohabitation easier, it would have made his investment more profitable because the apartment would have been more livable. The way I see it, he completely wasted those 8 years of his life. He couldn't have been happy, he must have been completely consumed by this. Best thing for him would be just to move away, start over somewhere else, put this behind him. Nothing good can come from any of this.
When the owner bought the building next to La Tulipe, it was a commercial building and he transform it for residential. The city actually made the mistake to allowed that transformation even tough it was against their own rules....
The owner knew there was a show venue next to his building...
Anyway, its a big mess!
@@majoriedc I like that people think that the city made a "mistake". They did it on purpose it's obvious.
@@guillaumeleblanc4542 I get ya! I was being polite 😂
Content de voir que Montréal résiste! Happy to see this in my city!
Thanks Dan and Paige. Great to see the turn out.
As for the history, look into "Le Théâtre des Variétés", to understand its significance.
It provided slapstick, social commentary, blue-collar humor, theatre and music shows and was very popular, back in the days (60's-70s).
It was converted as a concert venue later. In the late 90s and early 2000s, following the "C'est Extra" events, mixing vintage french hits and other forgotten "yéyé" music, it created a special vibe that was festive and gave a new life to this venue, after its 1960-1970s heyday.
Si on perd La Tulipe, on perd un bout de l'histoire de Montréal, en quelque part.
thank you for this historic info 👍🏻
My feeling is that there's something political about this. The person working for the city that delivered the residential permit that was a commercial building did not make it by accident, these errors don't happen whatever they are telling you. Someone or a group probably wanted the bar closed and they came up with this strategy to achieve their goal.
Same case with the Gay Village few years a go some big Boss don't want new Bar open so He hired people complain about the coming noise next to his 🤣, and the City stopped it , and the Big Boss bar is now in the state of being a white Elephant due other new bars have opened in a close distance with his 🤣
I've seen many shows at La Tulipe which has always supported french Quebecois culture. I even have an upcoming show of Avec pas D'Casque on Nov 28 at La Tulipe, not sure what will happen to this show. The city of Montreal changed their bylaw couple of days ago and there needs to be a second reading to allow the change to go through on Oct 7. Hopefully La Tulipe will then be able to reopen. This whole situation is Kafkaesque, this man buys a property adjacent to a live music theatre that has been there for 100 years and then complains about the noise, what a moron. The city of Montreal should have changed their bylaws long time ago instead of letting the judicial system run for 8 years and the theatre owner spend tens of thousands of dollars on this fight all on their own, shame on the city for such lack of consideration for our culture.
Beaucoup de souvenirs rattachés à cette édifice.
lived here for 59 years, never heard of la tulipe
If you’re moving next to a bar or a venue you have absolutely no right to complain about noise. You moved there voluntarily, you know the consequences of your actions.
there have been many iconic places that have closed here but no one did protest like this.
There have been people who either moved, and/or built houses near gun ranges then tried to get them to shut down partly on the noise issue. Do not move next to a gun range if you don't like guns, do not move next to a concert hall if you don't like noise; what was there first takes precedence. Maybe not move to the city at all if you don't like noise.
@CanadaFree-ce9jn The ppl "complainers" are just being used by whomever to have these places shut down
That a horrible new they closed :(. I had the chance to se Korplikani in march and it such a great place for show ! I hope the tide turn in their favor to preserve this historical building. Other wise this is another episode of the transition period. Yes i mean a transition to future like 2077 in the 2050 '....
Zero sympathy for the fact of people who knew that it was a music venue! Shame on the city for allowing a residential building to be built right next to it. More worrisome is the fact that the city allowed Condos to be built at the place du festival on the old Spectrum site.
Montrealers fighting for their right to party, the Montreal way: by having a party!
Sounds like what happened to the Maples Inn on Lakeshore Road in Pointe Claire many years ago. One of the best music venues at the time. It had been there close to a 100 years, locals started to complain about the noise, the city couldn’t do much so eventually the locals torched the place. Bunch of ugly townhouses sit on the location now. Sad when the kids loose these iconic venues. 🤔
Who's wining? which side? Are the new laws just a propose? Do you think Canadian lawmakers said that to "calm" the protest? That's how you loose historic places.
Ça fait du bien de voir une manif sans la présence de Lucie Laurier. 😋
There are rivalry in business too , there was a case in the gay Village a few years ago when some one wanted to open a new Bar there was a guy rumored to be the ''God Father'' of Bars hiring people to complain about the coming noise which is in the middle of all Bars and the City stopped it from becoming a Bar , and guess what ? that God Father's Bar is now dying , no one is going there anymore , while other small bars have sprung up getting all his customers in a close distance 🎉🎉🎉👍
Why don’t people go outside and do things anymore? Farther away means people will drive.
Prolly old people who complained they ain’t got nothing lose
Funny how the quebec want's preserve its culture but then shoots its own foot by shutting down an iconic venue.
I have mixed feelings about this. In a way, used to be an iconic building but since the people who exploited the place didn't respect the history and the beauty of the interior I'm not sad for them, I'm sad to loose yet another place of history in Montreal.
But for what it's worth, I lived many years next door of that venue and it wasn't noisy at all.
The interior was still beautiful and had a lot of charm. Much better than most places to be honest.
@@glowbright That's because you probably haven't seen it before it was painted black and dark red. But the main thing is that it was in desperate needs of refurbishment, lots of mold in their trust me.
This is how the city dies. Everything gets boring.
Sad :( but at the same time i can understand residents who literally cannot fall asleep in their own home
Its only one resident who knew he was buying a property adjacent to a live music theatre that has been there for over 100 years, the man is a jerk.
@@martinbelec1826Just to clarify, it wasn't a bar and music venue for 100 years. It's first purpose was a cinema, since then it have served many purposes such as a Jehovah witness church, but it has been for most of its years Gilles Latullippe theatre who wasn't happy about the new name.
@@guillaumeleblanc4542 oui je connais bien l'histoire de ce théâtre et j'y suis aller souvent voir des spectacles. Il est sous forme du La Tulipe depuis 2004 je pense et il était un théâtre avec Gilles Latulipe avant ça. Il demeure que celui qui a acheté le local adjacent savait qu' il achetait un local voisin d'une salle de spectacle donc qu' il vienne se plaindre du bruit ensuite est grotesque selon moi.
@@martinbelec1826 exactement Martin.
This is a 50 Cents level of pettiness!
sound proof the venue and stop disturbing the neighbors, very simple ,not all of us are deaf
At this point, let's hope soundproofing is a viable way forward. However, this sort of issue is what needed to be considered and negotiated before a change of use went ahead.
Hotel industry in Montreal is crumbling apart and you focus on a bar lol
Hotel industry doesn't change much for the people who live here, unlike this century old cultural institution loved by many.
@@Imsemble I live here, then he should go to the village then
Tu as qu'à faire ton vlog mon chéri
It's not a bar. It's a 111 year old concert hall built in 1913. This is a part of Montreal's heritage.
Another islamic centre coming to your neighborhood...
Crache ton venin d'ailleurs
Find a new building for the venue. Easy. But no, La Tulipe wants to whine about not being able to make a bunch of noise to make money.
Who was there first? 🧐
Are you for real dude.
@@thoughtsontravelandlife Latullipe has been there since 2004, saying that it's been there for 100 years is an overstatement as it was built in 1913 as a cinema, it was called the Dominion.
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