A big one: brand loyalty. Brand A comes out with the latest greatest cordless "Ahh, my brand will surely be making something like that, I'll wait" Two years later..... crickets. All because of non-shared batteries. You gotta own thousands and thousands in chargers and batteries to enjoy the latest best tools. New air tool drops that's the hotness? Add to cart, screw an air fitting in. Done, using it to make money 1 day later.
Great point. And if you are getting into cordless, consider the variety of tools a company has to offer when picking a battery platform. If you do both carpentry / woodworking type stuff, lawn work and mechanic work (e.g., like around a farm), DeWalt, Milwaukee or Makita are going to be way more versatile than a speciality platform like Snap-on or festool. Corded or air tools are still great for diversity and cost if you don’t need it to be portable. Also, some tools like sanders and grinders, eat batteries and corded or air is probably a way better option for many people.
I wanted to add three more benefits to air tools. 1. A lot of air tools have rebuild kits. 2. They can operate continuously. 3. Air tools are literally impossible to overheat.
The compressor is one GIANT battery that will forever work for every air tool from every manufacturer. Effectively lasts forever as well. No comparison. Only downside for a homeowner is if you want a big compressor you need super long hose and you’re still limited in where you can work. So you’d need a backup compressor but even then still it’s basically 2 “batteries” vs a million.
CP is right. For those starting their careers in a shop - air is free! The shop provides a compressor, save your money. A Taiwan impact or even a used impact will work for years. Get your hard line and diag tools first, then you’ll have funds to buy the latest cordless stuff.
Yes and we already know that most of these companies are focused on guys stepping into the industry, if I was a beginner I would be totally pimped out with cordless thinking about no strings attached but not realizing the benefit of an air tool
Wrong wrong wrong I don't have to wait for the air compressor to build up air when I need air I don't have to worry about breaking an airline when dragging the hose around oh let's not forget the god-awful noise air compressor makes I got four batteries two chargers and I go all day without fail
@@marknunn3834 assuming somebody works in a commercial shop, the compressor should be big enough that nobody has to wait for air. As far as noise goes, it’s gonna run whether you use air tools or not.
#6: If you are using them everyday, air tools are going to last longer and have less problems. This is just due to them being much simpler. As long as you are conditioning your output air to remove moisture and putting a drop of oil in them a couple times a week, the can be daily drivers for years, if not decades. Air tools also tend to be much more ruggedly built with less plastic and more steel or aluminum. They are just going to stand up to more abuse.
For the home mechanic 1/4 and 3/8 air ratchets are more practical. For tools that sit around 90 percent of the time air drive is always available. Cordless tools have a habit of being discharged or dead, often leaving you in the expensive position of looking for a new battery.
i like air cause it hits hard every time, i cant tell you how many times ive put a cordless on and haven't been able to crack a nut cause the battery is half full.
It’s always seemed clear to me air tools make more sense if you can take the time to do it right. It’s funny because homeowners should be spending less than pro’s, but somehow air tools are bought by pros and pricy battery tools are the default for homeowners
I feel I should point out two big pros of cordless tools: maneuverability and flexibility. a charger won't pressure a weak circuit breaker and doesn't require anything more than a wall outlet and time. Once the battery is on the tool, it sits there till it's dead. A battery can't get looped or hooked on anything, and you can take it where there aren't compressors or plugins. Which means if you're a homeowner, it's easier and more convenient to get a cordless setup. I also don't know off the top of my head if there are pneumatic impact drivers, but I know Makita makes like, 30.
I'm glad you mentioned tires. nothing fills up my tires as fast as my good old air compressor. When it's freezing cold out and I need to fill up a tire that thing does it the fastest. With a cordless inflator I'd be sitting out there forever freezing my butt off.
I have a 3/8 snap on pneumatic ratchet that I love, I paid $40 used and it out preforms Milwaukees m12 3/8 ratchet. It’s smaller, makes more torque, and spins slightly faster. And it never stops spinning. No worries about batteries. My Ingersoll rand 1/2 impact was $20 used and works perfectly. My air compressor was 50$ at an auction. Does great. I love the sound of an air tool The harbor freight air tools are dirt cheap and so pretty good, say for a die grinder, my electric one was $80 and my pneumatic one was $20 and is just as powerful. And 1/3 the size
I still have my first cordless drill Makita had two out snap on came out with one I loved it the battery went for years I dug it out I am going see how much the battery store wants to rebuild it 40 years later I am missing it keep em coming CP 👍👍
When I started my career air was the only game in town. I still own some air tools that are 40 years old. My butterfly ratchet and 1/2" impact was the first air tools I purchased. That poor impact has to work to remove a truck wheel. Now my Thunder Gun will kick tail. I actually missed hearing the sound of air tools throughout the shop. Stay strong brothers
They both have there places I like cordless when I’m up on a piece of equipment cause I don’t have to drag a hose up the side and when I’m in the field air doesn’t like the cold weather but in the shop air is still king great points CP
For just a home or hobby mechanic cordless is probably the way to go in my opinion, especially since those same tools can also be used for all those around the house jobs and maintenance too where a hose won't reach, also a large compressor running often might be an annoyance to neighbours if you're just working out of a garage 3m from your neibours lol. But for a more serious workshop air tools def the way to go, especially since you'll probably be getting an air compressor anyway for other things
Air tools are great assuming you do everything inside the shop. Smaller, lighter, more powerful in some cases, and cheaper generally. The downsides are you have to constantly screw with an air hose, switching between tools, tripping over hose, trying to keep them clean and not mar up the finish on a customer's car. Trying to talk over a noisy compressor running all the time isn't fun either. Yes, they make quiet models, but there's also a premium to figure in there. Cordless is bigger yes, but you have to consider you have the power supply attached to the tool. Cordless just can't be beat for handiness. Being able to have power outside in remote spots on those days when you got cars waiting on parts inside eating up hoist/floor space and need to get some quick and easy jobs billed out to break even, cordless tools are worth their weight in gold. Also, for dash work, it's hard to beat an m12 brushed ratchet with a cp battery. Very little difference in size compared to even an sp air ratchet. Both have their place and purpose. Every situation is different.
Sounding like an infomercial. Are you tired a dealing with getting tangled in air hoses; they're just impossible, and the compressesors are as loud as a jet. You make valid points I just thought it was funny. Idk how many autoshops would do it but a lot of people will have an air system tied to a compressor. They'll set it up in a seperate room (sound proofing it) so that it's no more than a light humm while supplying the whole shop. I take it that's not a thing in autoshops?
@@jonathanbetenbender307 if you have the space that's a great way to do it. When I was in Vo-tech they had an awesome setup for the automotive program. We had something like 7-8 bays and tunnels leading between buildings. They put our air compressor in one of the tunnels so you wouldn't hear it while it was running and we shared it with the auto body class in the other building. If it's set up right, air is definitely 1st choice when you need the ugga duggas. It's just hard to argue against the portability of battery tools.
@@Tojen-pt8um Definately but you can get the air tools so cheap. Its crazy how powerful these cordless tools are getting as powerful as corded (they literally have 120v tools). Battery tech is improving so much.
Are you kidding me right now air tools smoke the majority of cordless tools the Thor impact is still on the top of the rankings not to mention several stubby impacts are putting out the same power as a 8lb cordless name one tool that has more power than air even my air drills kill most the cordless they are just convenient they are a luxury not a necessity.
@@CPthetooladdict If you're talking to me I was referring to cordless vs corded; not pneumatic (in the last comment). I agreed about the portability and convenience of cordless. Also I'm coming at this morning from a woodworking and machining perspective. Cords are a plague not hoses.
I’m considering getting that Astro Thor. I’m well vested in Milwaukee, but like you said, that 1/2 impact is heavy as hell. I know it’s strong (as much as a lot of air ones), but it’s like hauling around a bowling ball. Also, I get roped into buying batteries usually. My M12 grease gun was $149 with a 4.0 and 2.0 battery. The bare tool was $99. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a bare Milwaukee because it’s pretty much cheaper to get the batteries.
I have the Thor. It's nice but the ergonomics are just "off" to me. Trigger is dual stage which makes it act funny if you're not quite square on the trigger. I switched back to my older composite IR for the day to day and only the Thor if I need every last inch of torque. Plus one of the housing bolts literally broke within 20 minutes of me taking it out of the box and using it lightly. I ordered the JDT boot to cover it up.
You don't lose power with air Providing your compressor can handle the demand Of course I would definitely not try to use my impacts on a contractor style compressor
Realistically air tools are still the benchmark. Even now some of these or all of the cordless tools if that are being compared to air tools in terms of performance. I unfortunately started with battery powered nailers and impacts. And just now I’ve been in trigged with air tools and got my self a metabo tank pancake compressor and a nailer. And the size and weight of that nailer compared to battery powered is insane. I feel like air tools are much smoother operating also Is like electric vehicles replacing v8’s. They might beat the performance but will never replace the good old sound v8 provides and air tools
Your absolutely right brother! We always had battery powered dewalts though for those projects around the farm u couldn’t always get power too. But I’m the shop we always used air! Cp my friend you are looking really awesome man. You look very happy. It’s good to see. Keep on keeping on brother!
I agree air tools have there place I used a quarter inch air mac butterfly ratchet for ever working on small engines. But for homeowner diy stuff there is just nothing better then battery tools. Dewalt even has framing nailer and finish nailer that just make life easy. I appreciate your videos and as always thanks for sharing!
I will keep it short and to the point. You are absolutely right. Another good topic to discuss. I could use some cordless but I don't. Air compressor again you are correct.
I really like not having to keep switching my air hose to different tools especially on quicker jobs. If I have to pull a subframe or something like that it's air all the way
Rustling feathers in Iowa is like busting chops in NY, I love busting chops but people in Arizona are trigger happy and don't like feather rustling or chop busting lol
Funny I was recently contemplating getting rid of my air compressor and tools. My reasons; 1 - Noise. I do a lot of late night wrenching and my neighbors can easily hear my compressor. 2 - Any power tool I invest in is regulated to the garage. I'd need 120 feet of hose to work inside or in my front yard. 3 - Speed. If I want to fire up a cordless tool for a quick 2 minute job I do it. With my air tools, I am waiting longer to build up pressure than many of the jobs I'm doing. 4 - Ergonomics. I always feel I'm fighting the hose, even using a whip. I use nice small batteries so that is a non issue with my cordless. 5 - Space. I'd argue that in my little shop the floor space, and wall space behind the compressor are way more than the space I use to store tools. I suppose like everything, the unique specifics of how one works, and what kind of work they are doing really influences priorities and opinion.
It's been my experience that people that are DIY guys are usually the ones to have selfish opinions And low expectations and also complained about air but then again they also complain about the price of snap-on yet they're willing to spend 3 times the money on cordless tools and batteries and more batteries and then make arguments that are Only justifiable to them and not the industry. The funny thing about noise is a cordless impact still makes it and I can hear it air tools are quieter now than electric ones and if you were concerned about compressor noise you could build a stand-alone box insulation and remote feed it from the outside several of my friends have done this the noise is reduced so much it's just a flutter. As long as I have to put air in my tires and need an air hammer air is still the king.
@@CPthetooladdict The insulated box has been on my mind for a while, I should look into that more. I wouldn't get much money for all my air tools or compressor so really it's probably not going anywhere.
If you have a good air compressor, just leave the air in the tank. Just make sure you turn off the air compressor and turn down the regulator to 0 PSI. When you need air, just turn up the regulator to the PSI you need and off you go. I've been doing this for years with no issues. Make sure to drain condensation out the tank every week.
I mainly do conveyor belt maintenance. I had to do a job where a pneumatic cut off wheel would have definitely been handy. Mainly because in really tight with no room to work with areas hauling a cordless or even corded cutoff wheel makes the job more difficult. I'm ordering one for the shop when I get back. Also I've occasionally had to take a tire off and while the cordless impact will work (sometimes). I just wind up grabbing the air impact wrench because I know it's going to get the job done. I'm not against cordless impacts because they do have their uses.
Great vid CP, yea very much agreed, think both have their places, but yea, between savings, tool type availability, Air still has more qualities than cordless, plus who doesn't love hearing brrrrt brrrrt each time lol. Myself as a home mechanic, only went cordless due to space availability in the garage, navigating the air hose around was a bit tedious, so I went cordless on some stuff, and for tools that I deemed not needing to pull out the hose or corded tools. But in honesty, when I needed more umph or run time, I still had to break out the air or corded tools, think that's another important factor, air tools are built like tanks, they can be ran for as long as you have a continuous supply of air, and just adding a bit oil, less wear and tear.
As always, more great points. The place where cordless wins is with the weekend warrior shade tree mechanics who have cordless for their mon - Fri gigs and can get a bare tool sale here and there to make life a little easier. I absolutely love my cordless impact when I travel. Have a smaller floor jack and and a (watch out for the haters) Pittsburg pro impact socket set that rolls down the road with me and changing flats is easy peasy! Super nice for pulling over and helping out someone stranded roadside. But when I get the shop completed it will have air piped all around. Keep killing it CP! Us Ioweeguns gotta represent!
For field work I understand battery powered stuff. By the time you have the air compressor on the service truck started and the line run out you could have have had the job half way done with a battery powered tool. In a shop it doesn't really make sense. Especially when the shop has paid for the air compressor and lines. And the most you have to put into it is a $2 air fitting for your gun. VS at least $400 of batteries that like you said have to be replaced every 3 years.
I like both cordless is great for new guys that do side jobs. More pricy but u can buy one that will go everywhere. But for a 1/2 for the shop u have to have a good air atleast in my opinion.
Air all the way CP! I love air for bigger jobs like suspension on trucks and tractors, trailers, wheels, axle work.. etc.. I like cordless for doing engine work or anything under the hood.
Yeah for sure, Cordless tools are for when a mechanic is established and already owns all the air tools and wants more portability and has a bigger budget for tools. Even air tools are getting expensive, going up in price like everything...but still much less than cordless.
I usually buy my air tools on Craigslist or OfferUp. There's always some guy cleaning out his garage/shop and replacing everything with cordless and thinks the air tools are now worthless. Couldn't be further from the truth but hey, always happy to help him out
Awesome video!!!!! Yeah they definitely don’t last long. I have a metal cutting saw and one cut and its done. 😡 was a waste of money. My thing is gripping and handles for the air tools. Also painting guns are way cheaper than getting a cordless. I guess it just boils down to a persons needs.
I still use my air tools. I had a 33 gal. Craftsman compressor for 17 years and it had great specs. One day three years ago it quit working. I took it to a shop nearby hoping for a repair to save it, but I was told the control board for the motor burned out and it was obsolete for replacing. That was a sad day, I hated losing that thing.
Air compressors are stupid simple tho for electrical controls, all an air compressor needs is a start stop, starter, and a pressure switch. Even if it has a control board could always get it running again with some old school relay logic.
I’m not a mechanic by trade but I work in a shop a lot on my companies equipment quite a bit. I prefer a high quality air tools vs a cordless. Cordless is nice in some situations but the biggest con for me is the batteries. I fucking hate batteries and after so long they either die or can no longer feasibly be replaced. Your solution is too but the new latest and greatest. For me air is King because the tools can last so much longer.
If a good chunk of your day is wielding a heavy battery-powered tool, it takes a toll on your arms. Sure, air lines can be a hassle but for some the weight savings is worth it.
I prefer air for consistent power, usually easier to get into spots without the battery being in the way (hose can flex), more options in terms of tools, use air for more uses, don't have to recharge batteries and no batteries to degrade or wear out. As a NON-professional I feel too many cordless tools are a waste. i could go months in between use and the batteries just degrade. Air is good to go and powerful. I use scuba tanks as an air source if I want to use them remotely. A 3000 PSI 80cf or 3500 PSIU 100cf tank lasts a while. The scuba regulator brings the pressure down to 140psi and supplies plenty of flow. I like having one cordless air impact to bring along on a road trip in case of flat but other than that AIR is better! Using 1/4" die grinder the other day and no cordless version i could find would of fit.
I think electric and air have benefits and disadvantages. For me. I like to be able to work on my car at home. But I don't have an air compressor at home. I paid 400 for my m18 midtorque with battery 400 for my high torque with battery. It's handy. I use a couple air tools but I prefer the fact that it's not attached to a hose
"LIKE" button torqued to manufacturer's specification ! You know that some pecker-wood out there is gonna say that he "doesn't have to worry about the bottom of his battery rusting out" like his neglected HFT compressor did.
Air tools were once consider safer; i.e. tools around fluid and flammable gases. Less likely to get electrocuted or causing an explosion. I guess that is no longer a concern. I would think brushless tools are better than brush tools for same reasons.
If you work for a shop they provide air compressor and hoses if you use cordless you provide your own batteries and that's the real expense as you really need to have 1 spare but should have 2 for every heavy used tools. Nothing is more frustrating than waiting for battery to charge
Here's my top reason before watching this one guys, it's the low demand for air tools during this era of cordless everything, I just hope everyone on that cordless bandwagon don't forget how useful air tools can be, especially if you're like me with 165psi behind a Snap-on heavy duty air hammer, all Snap-on air tools for some reason are monsters when using high air pressure like 160psi or more it's a world of difference between 90 to 165psi, my only failures after 4yrs of high psi abuse was on my IR 2835 that lasted me years under 90psi but straight up rounded the anvil after 2yrs on 165-170psi different ballpark at this pressure
Another advantage with an air compressor: you can use it to run a spray gun to paint an entire vehicle. The one advantage with cordless tools is the fact that they will work in remote areas. Of course gasoline air compressors can achieve the same results.
A good compressor costs like 4k .I can get a whole set of Milwaukee cordless for under 4k including battery’s and tools and the battery’s last a lot longer then 3 years I’ve had the same battery’s for my Milwaukee for over 7 and they still work fine .compressors are still viable for air grinders and air Rachets and air hammers .although a roto hammer would do some of the same work as a air hammer
@@CPthetooladdict but do you think they could make a electric version that was adequate and didn’t function off of air at all (an air bladder etc) ? Or that’s just not possible yet
Good battery nailers are hard to find. I have small air compressor for those. So specialty tools is about your only point that really holds up. All other points could be reversed.
I heard that milwaukee soldering iron is trash. Do you do much soldering and are you into portable ones? If so I have a couple suggestions absolutely worth checking out, although they’re not exactly traditional choices
I used mine constantly. Full wiring harnesses on cars and lots and lots of time with that thing in my hand. It died last week. No power to the circuit board controlling the heating element. Been on hold with some personal wiring projects since. Havent had the guts to step to a different one since I'm quite invested in the m12 line and love sitting it down on a 4.0 battery and having the head angled just perfectly. Havent found one that I can justify replacing the m12 with.
Yes it doesn't give ample heat on bigger gauge wiring nothing really does but of course Milwaukee fanboys will die by the red sword before they will admit that lol
@@CPthetooladdict where can I email you? it’s a bit easier to have a convo via email? Or dm if you prefer, are you on IG? But yes I thought my m12 iron was just defective but later heard everyone disliked it except for very particular use cases. The stand up design is admittedly quite nice, unfortunately it lacks in ways that are unacceptable to me for a tool that has access to up to 12V 6ah 2P packs meanwhile I use a iron that has exponentially less overall battery power available to it and it performs infinitely better. I would bet someone so inclined could fix the milwaukee after re-engineering it to allow it to use much more power. Assuming their proprietary BMS & safety chips don’t make that impossible.
@@CPthetooladdict have you seen the TS-80P or it’s older non USB C TS100? It might look cheap but it’s insanely efficient. It heats faster and hotter than my seller bench supply. And it can be run from a freaking battery bank for hours on end. It’s a open source project running open source firmware. Don’t scoff at it’s China origin until you try them. They blow my mind honestly. I felt like Milwaukee had robbed me after seeing what this thing could do. It’s gotten pricier since the Covid and supply chain shit went crazy, but still only seen it at $100 max. Have you seen these reviewed? EEV blog did a good review and so did another guy I forget the name of but let me know if you aren’t familiar with them and I’ll send a link to the best review I’ve seen
@@kyleburks7077 have you looked at the TS80P or it’s slightly older TS100? The TS100 is technically a bit higher wattage but you can’t pay attention to that because of their unique design it doesn’t matter at all and most people prefer the USB C TS80P. It made me embarrassed of paying what I did for the m12 which lacks controls found on crazy cheap irons. The only redeeming quality of the m12 is the stand up and adjustable nature. But these units are so light and handheld oriented you don’t miss it much and if you need to you can get a 5 dollar stand that props it up to stand up straight without worrying about knocking it down. Do some research on them dont judge on the size alone. The milwaukee has far fewer components in it and the plastic housing is just a giant hollow grip basically. Also ghe milwaukees price is even more insane once you consider the batteries are the most pricey component and not included obviously. Anyway yea check them out I’ve never met someone who wasn’t happy with the ts80, it’s insanely perfect for micro soldering and somehow stands it’s grounds when soldering 10 gauge cables for my trucks battery terminal. I thought it would be trash and the hype was unwarranted but for once I was wrong. Let me know if you have any thoughts or wind up getting one how you like it. Just return to Amazon if by some chance you don’t like it
CP have to disagree with you, before I got my Milwaukee ratchet and impacts I would just end up breaking bolts by hand, to avoid having to get the compressor ready and getting out the hose. Now I just grab the tool and I'm ready to rock! I use my Hi Rpm M12 Ratchets more then any other tool now.
You had the wrong air system set up. I've been maintaining my vehicles for over 30 yrs. I Started out with just hand tools. Once I got married, I had two vehicles to maintain. I bought my first air compressor, 8 gallon, back in 2014. I've since then upgraded to a 33-gallon air compressor. Overhead hose reel. Air lines and air outlets throughout the garage. My air compressor is always filled with air and ready to go when needed. I do have battery powered drills, which I love those. Especially when working around the house.
not hating an air tools at all but when the compressor takes a shit it’s costs a pretty penny to get a sparky and the air compressor tech to get out there. that being said a new nema 1or 2 starter is cheaper than new batteries (looking a you milwaukee, snap-on) just remember to drain the tank daily so you have air tools not hydro pneumatic tools
You just buy another air compressor. You can buy a good one for a few hundred dollars. Also, an air compressor will outlive any battery tools, if maintained.
@@Pk3_Garage we got different ideas of a good compressor, a simple little 80 gal 7.5 hp 480 v IR is close to 3-4k a size 1 nema starter is close to $150-200 last time I had to order one. And a baldor 7.5 hp motor is gonna run close to 2k. (And that would be lower quality for a professional air compressor, no VFD or pressure sensor)
@@CPthetooladdict depends on how well the compressor is maintained, most shops and plants out here just run em till failure so you don't get the 20 years of life.
I'm speaking for the home DIY. (Like myself) Most don't need to spend that kind of money or need that big of an air compressor. I have a Craftsman 33 gallon, 1.7 HP, 165 max PSI, oil free air compressor. Paid $325 for it back in 2016 on sale. It runs all my automotive and fabrication tools with no problem. I buy air tools that meet the SCFM of my air compressor. So, I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars for the professional version.
Cuz no limited range, no waiting on the air compressor to build up, no smashed hands, no air tool oil, no hearing damage, better power a lot of times, bragging rights, no air hose to trip over, no air hose to clean up afterwards. I kinda get it if your shop already has air, but if you have to buy a reel, hoses, a good compressor, etc you may as well just go battery powered.
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A big one: brand loyalty. Brand A comes out with the latest greatest cordless "Ahh, my brand will surely be making something like that, I'll wait" Two years later..... crickets. All because of non-shared batteries. You gotta own thousands and thousands in chargers and batteries to enjoy the latest best tools. New air tool drops that's the hotness? Add to cart, screw an air fitting in. Done, using it to make money 1 day later.
Amen! Guess that's why a air tool still leads the rank chart!
Great point. And if you are getting into cordless, consider the variety of tools a company has to offer when picking a battery platform. If you do both carpentry / woodworking type stuff, lawn work and mechanic work (e.g., like around a farm), DeWalt, Milwaukee or Makita are going to be way more versatile than a speciality platform like Snap-on or festool. Corded or air tools are still great for diversity and cost if you don’t need it to be portable. Also, some tools like sanders and grinders, eat batteries and corded or air is probably a way better option for many people.
There are a lot of battery adapters available now!
I wanted to add three more benefits to air tools.
1. A lot of air tools have rebuild kits.
2. They can operate continuously.
3. Air tools are literally impossible to overheat.
The compressor is one GIANT battery that will forever work for every air tool from every manufacturer. Effectively lasts forever as well. No comparison.
Only downside for a homeowner is if you want a big compressor you need super long hose and you’re still limited in where you can work. So you’d need a backup compressor but even then still it’s basically 2 “batteries” vs a million.
CP is right. For those starting their careers in a shop - air is free! The shop provides a compressor, save your money. A Taiwan impact or even a used impact will work for years. Get your hard line and diag tools first, then you’ll have funds to buy the latest cordless stuff.
Yes and we already know that most of these companies are focused on guys stepping into the industry, if I was a beginner I would be totally pimped out with cordless thinking about no strings attached but not realizing the benefit of an air tool
Wrong wrong wrong I don't have to wait for the air compressor to build up air when I need air I don't have to worry about breaking an airline when dragging the hose around oh let's not forget the god-awful noise air compressor makes I got four batteries two chargers and I go all day without fail
@@marknunn3834 assuming somebody works in a commercial shop, the compressor should be big enough that nobody has to wait for air. As far as noise goes, it’s gonna run whether you use air tools or not.
Exactly tool demos I've never had to wait on a air compressor in any shop I've worked at.
@@CPthetooladdict let me hook up my big 1in air impact let me start busting big 18 wheeler lugs and see how fast I drain a air tank
#6: If you are using them everyday, air tools are going to last longer and have less problems. This is just due to them being much simpler. As long as you are conditioning your output air to remove moisture and putting a drop of oil in them a couple times a week, the can be daily drivers for years, if not decades. Air tools also tend to be much more ruggedly built with less plastic and more steel or aluminum. They are just going to stand up to more abuse.
For the home mechanic 1/4 and 3/8 air ratchets are more practical. For tools that sit around 90 percent of the time air drive is always available. Cordless tools have a habit of being discharged or dead, often leaving you in the expensive position of looking for a new battery.
i like air cause it hits hard every time, i cant tell you how many times ive put a cordless on and haven't been able to crack a nut cause the battery is half full.
It’s always seemed clear to me air tools make more sense if you can take the time to do it right. It’s funny because homeowners should be spending less than pro’s, but somehow air tools are bought by pros and pricy battery tools are the default for homeowners
I feel I should point out two big pros of cordless tools: maneuverability and flexibility. a charger won't pressure a weak circuit breaker and doesn't require anything more than a wall outlet and time. Once the battery is on the tool, it sits there till it's dead. A battery can't get looped or hooked on anything, and you can take it where there aren't compressors or plugins. Which means if you're a homeowner, it's easier and more convenient to get a cordless setup. I also don't know off the top of my head if there are pneumatic impact drivers, but I know Makita makes like, 30.
Great job cp. I agree the more I use cordless the more I go back to air. Keep the videos coming.
I'm glad you mentioned tires. nothing fills up my tires as fast as my good old air compressor. When it's freezing cold out and I need to fill up a tire that thing does it the fastest. With a cordless inflator I'd be sitting out there forever freezing my butt off.
I have a 3/8 snap on pneumatic ratchet that I love, I paid $40 used and it out preforms Milwaukees m12 3/8 ratchet. It’s smaller, makes more torque, and spins slightly faster. And it never stops spinning. No worries about batteries.
My Ingersoll rand 1/2 impact was $20 used and works perfectly.
My air compressor was 50$ at an auction. Does great.
I love the sound of an air tool
The harbor freight air tools are dirt cheap and so pretty good, say for a die grinder, my electric one was $80 and my pneumatic one was $20 and is just as powerful. And 1/3 the size
I still have my first cordless drill Makita had two out snap on came out with one I loved it the battery went for years I dug it out I am going see how much the battery store wants to rebuild it 40 years later I am missing it keep em coming CP 👍👍
When I started my career air was the only game in town. I still own some air tools that are 40 years old. My butterfly ratchet and 1/2" impact was the first air tools I purchased. That poor impact has to work to remove a truck wheel.
Now my Thunder Gun will kick tail.
I actually missed hearing the sound of air tools throughout the shop.
Stay strong brothers
They both have there places I like cordless when I’m up on a piece of equipment cause I don’t have to drag a hose up the side and when I’m in the field air doesn’t like the cold weather but in the shop air is still king great points CP
For just a home or hobby mechanic cordless is probably the way to go in my opinion, especially since those same tools can also be used for all those around the house jobs and maintenance too where a hose won't reach, also a large compressor running often might be an annoyance to neighbours if you're just working out of a garage 3m from your neibours lol.
But for a more serious workshop air tools def the way to go, especially since you'll probably be getting an air compressor anyway for other things
Well a good point could be you need a compressor and hose also with air. However most shops provide air and hoses compared to batteries and chargers
Air tools are great assuming you do everything inside the shop. Smaller, lighter, more powerful in some cases, and cheaper generally.
The downsides are you have to constantly screw with an air hose, switching between tools, tripping over hose, trying to keep them clean and not mar up the finish on a customer's car. Trying to talk over a noisy compressor running all the time isn't fun either. Yes, they make quiet models, but there's also a premium to figure in there.
Cordless is bigger yes, but you have to consider you have the power supply attached to the tool. Cordless just can't be beat for handiness. Being able to have power outside in remote spots on those days when you got cars waiting on parts inside eating up hoist/floor space and need to get some quick and easy jobs billed out to break even, cordless tools are worth their weight in gold.
Also, for dash work, it's hard to beat an m12 brushed ratchet with a cp battery. Very little difference in size compared to even an sp air ratchet.
Both have their place and purpose. Every situation is different.
Sounding like an infomercial. Are you tired a dealing with getting tangled in air hoses; they're just impossible, and the compressesors are as loud as a jet. You make valid points I just thought it was funny. Idk how many autoshops would do it but a lot of people will have an air system tied to a compressor. They'll set it up in a seperate room (sound proofing it) so that it's no more than a light humm while supplying the whole shop. I take it that's not a thing in autoshops?
@@jonathanbetenbender307 if you have the space that's a great way to do it. When I was in Vo-tech they had an awesome setup for the automotive program. We had something like 7-8 bays and tunnels leading between buildings. They put our air compressor in one of the tunnels so you wouldn't hear it while it was running and we shared it with the auto body class in the other building. If it's set up right, air is definitely 1st choice when you need the ugga duggas. It's just hard to argue against the portability of battery tools.
@@Tojen-pt8um Definately but you can get the air tools so cheap. Its crazy how powerful these cordless tools are getting as powerful as corded (they literally have 120v tools). Battery tech is improving so much.
Are you kidding me right now air tools smoke the majority of cordless tools the Thor impact is still on the top of the rankings not to mention several stubby impacts are putting out the same power as a 8lb cordless name one tool that has more power than air even my air drills kill most the cordless they are just convenient they are a luxury not a necessity.
@@CPthetooladdict If you're talking to me I was referring to cordless vs corded; not pneumatic (in the last comment). I agreed about the portability and convenience of cordless. Also I'm coming at this morning from a woodworking and machining perspective. Cords are a plague not hoses.
I’m considering getting that Astro Thor. I’m well vested in Milwaukee, but like you said, that 1/2 impact is heavy as hell. I know it’s strong (as much as a lot of air ones), but it’s like hauling around a bowling ball. Also, I get roped into buying batteries usually. My M12 grease gun was $149 with a 4.0 and 2.0 battery. The bare tool was $99. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a bare Milwaukee because it’s pretty much cheaper to get the batteries.
I have the Thor. It's nice but the ergonomics are just "off" to me. Trigger is dual stage which makes it act funny if you're not quite square on the trigger. I switched back to my older composite IR for the day to day and only the Thor if I need every last inch of torque.
Plus one of the housing bolts literally broke within 20 minutes of me taking it out of the box and using it lightly. I ordered the JDT boot to cover it up.
@@Tojen-pt8um Appreciate the input. I’m not in a hurry so I’ll get a few more opinions. Thanks.
You don't lose power with air
Providing your compressor can handle the demand
Of course I would definitely not try to use my impacts on a contractor style compressor
Glade to hear you had a great week...well deserved 🔧🔩🪛
I have that exact same Mac air hammer. It’s a beast
Realistically air tools are still the benchmark. Even now some of these or all of the cordless tools if that are being compared to air tools in terms of performance. I unfortunately started with battery powered nailers and impacts. And just now I’ve been in trigged with air tools and got my self a metabo tank pancake compressor and a nailer. And the size and weight of that nailer compared to battery powered is insane. I feel like air tools are much smoother operating also
Is like electric vehicles replacing v8’s. They might beat the performance but will never replace the good old sound v8 provides and air tools
Man a 1/2in air impact ain't cheap they both have there place I love them both...
Your absolutely right brother! We always had battery powered dewalts though for those projects around the farm u couldn’t always get power too. But I’m the shop we always used air! Cp my friend you are looking really awesome man. You look very happy. It’s good to see. Keep on keeping on brother!
Great food for thought CP ! Gonna start checking some prices .
I agree air tools have there place I used a quarter inch air mac butterfly ratchet for ever working on small engines. But for homeowner diy stuff there is just nothing better then battery tools. Dewalt even has framing nailer and finish nailer that just make life easy. I appreciate your videos and as always thanks for sharing!
I will keep it short and to the point. You are absolutely right. Another good topic to discuss. I could use some cordless but I don't. Air compressor again you are correct.
In my opinion, if you're going to do mechanic work you need an air compressor anyway. Another great video!
I HAVE A BUDGET AS WELL. AND EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS. I NEED TO PLAN FOR FUTURE BUILDS.
I really like not having to keep switching my air hose to different tools especially on quicker jobs. If I have to pull a subframe or something like that it's air all the way
Rustling feathers in Iowa is like busting chops in NY, I love busting chops but people in Arizona are trigger happy and don't like feather rustling or chop busting lol
Funny I was recently contemplating getting rid of my air compressor and tools. My reasons;
1 - Noise. I do a lot of late night wrenching and my neighbors can easily hear my compressor.
2 - Any power tool I invest in is regulated to the garage. I'd need 120 feet of hose to work inside or in my front yard.
3 - Speed. If I want to fire up a cordless tool for a quick 2 minute job I do it. With my air tools, I am waiting longer to build up pressure than many of the jobs I'm doing.
4 - Ergonomics. I always feel I'm fighting the hose, even using a whip. I use nice small batteries so that is a non issue with my cordless.
5 - Space. I'd argue that in my little shop the floor space, and wall space behind the compressor are way more than the space I use to store tools.
I suppose like everything, the unique specifics of how one works, and what kind of work they are doing really influences priorities and opinion.
It's been my experience that people that are DIY guys are usually the ones to have selfish opinions And low expectations and also complained about air but then again they also complain about the price of snap-on yet they're willing to spend 3 times the money on cordless tools and batteries and more batteries and then make arguments that are Only justifiable to them and not the industry. The funny thing about noise is a cordless impact still makes it and I can hear it air tools are quieter now than electric ones and if you were concerned about compressor noise you could build a stand-alone box insulation and remote feed it from the outside several of my friends have done this the noise is reduced so much it's just a flutter. As long as I have to put air in my tires and need an air hammer air is still the king.
@@CPthetooladdict The insulated box has been on my mind for a while, I should look into that more. I wouldn't get much money for all my air tools or compressor so really it's probably not going anywhere.
If you have a good air compressor, just leave the air in the tank. Just make sure you turn off the air compressor and turn down the regulator to 0 PSI. When you need air, just turn up the regulator to the PSI you need and off you go. I've been doing this for years with no issues. Make sure to drain condensation out the tank every week.
I mainly do conveyor belt maintenance. I had to do a job where a pneumatic cut off wheel would have definitely been handy. Mainly because in really tight with no room to work with areas hauling a cordless or even corded cutoff wheel makes the job more difficult. I'm ordering one for the shop when I get back.
Also I've occasionally had to take a tire off and while the cordless impact will work (sometimes). I just wind up grabbing the air impact wrench because I know it's going to get the job done. I'm not against cordless impacts because they do have their uses.
Great vid CP, yea very much agreed, think both have their places, but yea, between savings, tool type availability, Air still has more qualities than cordless, plus who doesn't love hearing brrrrt brrrrt each time lol. Myself as a home mechanic, only went cordless due to space availability in the garage, navigating the air hose around was a bit tedious, so I went cordless on some stuff, and for tools that I deemed not needing to pull out the hose or corded tools. But in honesty, when I needed more umph or run time, I still had to break out the air or corded tools, think that's another important factor, air tools are built like tanks, they can be ran for as long as you have a continuous supply of air, and just adding a bit oil, less wear and tear.
As always, more great points. The place where cordless wins is with the weekend warrior shade tree mechanics who have cordless for their mon - Fri gigs and can get a bare tool sale here and there to make life a little easier. I absolutely love my cordless impact when I travel. Have a smaller floor jack and and a (watch out for the haters) Pittsburg pro impact socket set that rolls down the road with me and changing flats is easy peasy! Super nice for pulling over and helping out someone stranded roadside. But when I get the shop completed it will have air piped all around. Keep killing it CP! Us Ioweeguns gotta represent!
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I like both. But with cordless is easier out in cold weather sir freezing up on me a lot time.
For field work I understand battery powered stuff. By the time you have the air compressor on the service truck started and the line run out you could have have had the job half way done with a battery powered tool.
In a shop it doesn't really make sense. Especially when the shop has paid for the air compressor and lines. And the most you have to put into it is a $2 air fitting for your gun. VS at least $400 of batteries that like you said have to be replaced every 3 years.
Thanks for your video I like to use them for working on cars the air seems the way to go for them suspension parts there always a pain to get off.
Glad to help
Awesome video brother. Thanks for sharing. Very true. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible night. Much love and RESPECT brother
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
I like both cordless is great for new guys that do side jobs. More pricy but u can buy one that will go everywhere. But for a 1/2 for the shop u have to have a good air atleast in my opinion.
Air all the way CP! I love air for bigger jobs like suspension on trucks and tractors, trailers, wheels, axle work.. etc.. I like cordless for doing engine work or anything under the hood.
Yeah for sure, Cordless tools are for when a mechanic is established and already owns all the air tools and wants more portability and has a bigger budget for tools. Even air tools are getting expensive, going up in price like everything...but still much less than cordless.
I usually buy my air tools on Craigslist or OfferUp. There's always some guy cleaning out his garage/shop and replacing everything with cordless and thinks the air tools are now worthless. Couldn't be further from the truth but hey, always happy to help him out
Awesome video!!!!!
Yeah they definitely don’t last long. I have a metal cutting saw and one cut and its done. 😡 was a waste of money.
My thing is gripping and handles for the air tools.
Also painting guns are way cheaper than getting a cordless.
I guess it just boils down to a persons needs.
Hey buddy, this is a great video now I’ve been looking at the BAHCO BP905P are the 2175MAX
Heck ya, that's awesome!!
Hey have you had a chance to check out the new Hercules impact wrench?
I personally like having both
Definitely the best way to be if you can afford it.
I still use my air tools. I had a 33 gal. Craftsman compressor for 17 years and it had great specs. One day three years ago it quit working. I took it to a shop nearby hoping for a repair to save it, but I was told the control board for the motor burned out and it was obsolete for replacing. That was a sad day, I hated losing that thing.
Air compressors are stupid simple tho for electrical controls, all an air compressor needs is a start stop, starter, and a pressure switch. Even if it has a control board could always get it running again with some old school relay logic.
Air tools can be tuned up by any mechanic.
Yeah I got me a rotary screw compressor from atlas copco to run my Chicago pneumatic tools
I’m not a mechanic by trade but I work in a shop a lot on my companies equipment quite a bit. I prefer a high quality air tools vs a cordless. Cordless is nice in some situations but the biggest con for me is the batteries. I fucking hate batteries and after so long they either die or can no longer feasibly be replaced. Your solution is too but the new latest and greatest. For me air is King because the tools can last so much longer.
Swear by my air tools. Only issue is being out in the field time to time, and a lot of shops don’t maintain there air compressors.
If a good chunk of your day is wielding a heavy battery-powered tool, it takes a toll on your arms. Sure, air lines can be a hassle but for some the weight savings is worth it.
Excellent comparison Dad of Tool Addict Dog. I hope Henry is well.
I prefer air for consistent power, usually easier to get into spots without the battery being in the way (hose can flex), more options in terms of tools, use air for more uses, don't have to recharge batteries and no batteries to degrade or wear out. As a NON-professional I feel too many cordless tools are a waste. i could go months in between use and the batteries just degrade. Air is good to go and powerful. I use scuba tanks as an air source if I want to use them remotely. A 3000 PSI 80cf or 3500 PSIU 100cf tank lasts a while. The scuba regulator brings the pressure down to 140psi and supplies plenty of flow. I like having one cordless air impact to bring along on a road trip in case of flat but other than that AIR is better! Using 1/4" die grinder the other day and no cordless version i could find would of fit.
I think electric and air have benefits and disadvantages. For me. I like to be able to work on my car at home. But I don't have an air compressor at home. I paid 400 for my m18 midtorque with battery 400 for my high torque with battery. It's handy. I use a couple air tools but I prefer the fact that it's not attached to a hose
Hello again CP
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I agree with you CP
Everybody arguing over air or battery... Your both wrong! The world needs the M60 from The torque test channel
Lmao
"LIKE" button torqued to manufacturer's specification ! You know that some pecker-wood out there is gonna say that he "doesn't have to worry about the bottom of his battery rusting out" like his neglected HFT compressor did.
Air tools were once consider safer; i.e. tools around fluid and flammable gases. Less likely to get electrocuted or causing an explosion. I guess that is no longer a concern. I would think brushless tools are better than brush tools for same reasons.
If you work for a shop they provide air compressor and hoses if you use cordless you provide your own batteries and that's the real expense as you really need to have 1 spare but should have 2 for every heavy used tools. Nothing is more frustrating than waiting for battery to charge
Here's my top reason before watching this one guys, it's the low demand for air tools during this era of cordless everything, I just hope everyone on that cordless bandwagon don't forget how useful air tools can be, especially if you're like me with 165psi behind a Snap-on heavy duty air hammer, all Snap-on air tools for some reason are monsters when using high air pressure like 160psi or more it's a world of difference between 90 to 165psi, my only failures after 4yrs of high psi abuse was on my IR 2835 that lasted me years under 90psi but straight up rounded the anvil after 2yrs on 165-170psi different ballpark at this pressure
I started out with electric tools and hand tools I use my air hammer and grinder electric is good for run and gun but air is definitely a valid option
Another advantage with an air compressor: you can use it to run a spray gun to paint an entire vehicle. The one advantage with cordless tools is the fact that they will work in remote areas. Of course gasoline air compressors can achieve the same results.
He’s right, y'know.
A good compressor costs like 4k .I can get a whole set of Milwaukee cordless for under 4k including battery’s and tools and the battery’s last a lot longer then 3 years I’ve had the same battery’s for my Milwaukee for over 7 and they still work fine .compressors are still viable for air grinders and air Rachets and air hammers .although a roto hammer would do some of the same work as a air hammer
I've went through 2 different cordless drills in last 10 years compared my air drill wich is 30 years old and still kicking some serious butt
Is an air hammer a tool that you think They’ll still need to use air to operate even with a battery ? Like battery nailers still use air
Absolutely I couldn't live without a air hammer
@@CPthetooladdict but do you think they could make a electric version that was adequate and didn’t function off of air at all (an air bladder etc) ? Or that’s just not possible yet
I detail cars air is king in detailing too
I mean blowing out the vents carpet ect. Is a must can't do that with a electric tool
@@CPthetooladdict plus the guns you can put cleaners in and spray
Good battery nailers are hard to find. I have small air compressor for those. So specialty tools is about your only point that really holds up. All other points could be reversed.
I heard that milwaukee soldering iron is trash. Do you do much soldering and are you into portable ones? If so I have a couple suggestions absolutely worth checking out, although they’re not exactly traditional choices
I used mine constantly. Full wiring harnesses on cars and lots and lots of time with that thing in my hand. It died last week. No power to the circuit board controlling the heating element. Been on hold with some personal wiring projects since. Havent had the guts to step to a different one since I'm quite invested in the m12 line and love sitting it down on a 4.0 battery and having the head angled just perfectly. Havent found one that I can justify replacing the m12 with.
Yes it doesn't give ample heat on bigger gauge wiring nothing really does but of course Milwaukee fanboys will die by the red sword before they will admit that lol
@@CPthetooladdict where can I email you? it’s a bit easier to have a convo via email? Or dm if you prefer, are you on IG?
But yes I thought my m12 iron was just defective but later heard everyone disliked it except for very particular use cases. The stand up design is admittedly quite nice, unfortunately it lacks in ways that are unacceptable to me for a tool that has access to up to 12V 6ah 2P packs meanwhile I use a iron that has exponentially less overall battery power available to it and it performs infinitely better.
I would bet someone so inclined could fix the milwaukee after re-engineering it to allow it to use much more power. Assuming their proprietary BMS & safety chips don’t make that impossible.
@@CPthetooladdict have you seen the TS-80P or it’s older non USB C TS100? It might look cheap but it’s insanely efficient. It heats faster and hotter than my seller bench supply. And it can be run from a freaking battery bank for hours on end. It’s a open source project running open source firmware. Don’t scoff at it’s China origin until you try them. They blow my mind honestly. I felt like Milwaukee had robbed me after seeing what this thing could do.
It’s gotten pricier since the Covid and supply chain shit went crazy, but still only seen it at $100 max.
Have you seen these reviewed? EEV blog did a good review and so did another guy I forget the name of but let me know if you aren’t familiar with them and I’ll send a link to the best review I’ve seen
@@kyleburks7077 have you looked at the TS80P or it’s slightly older TS100? The TS100 is technically a bit higher wattage but you can’t pay attention to that because of their unique design it doesn’t matter at all and most people prefer the USB C TS80P. It made me embarrassed of paying what I did for the m12 which lacks controls found on crazy cheap irons. The only redeeming quality of the m12 is the stand up and adjustable nature. But these units are so light and handheld oriented you don’t miss it much and if you need to you can get a 5 dollar stand that props it up to stand up straight without worrying about knocking it down.
Do some research on them dont judge on the size alone. The milwaukee has far fewer components in it and the plastic housing is just a giant hollow grip basically. Also ghe milwaukees price is even more insane once you consider the batteries are the most pricey component and not included obviously. Anyway yea check them out I’ve never met someone who wasn’t happy with the ts80, it’s insanely perfect for micro soldering and somehow stands it’s grounds when soldering 10 gauge cables for my trucks battery terminal. I thought it would be trash and the hype was unwarranted but for once I was wrong.
Let me know if you have any thoughts or wind up getting one how you like it. Just return to Amazon if by some chance you don’t like it
As with everything. It depends on the application. Do you have air? That's the big one.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT AIR TOOLS CAN BE REBUILT. AND SERV A SECOND LIFE.
Do you do any work on European cars? Like could you if needed? And would you ?
No
@@CPthetooladdict smart man
No I'm a idiot but I just try to do my best to fix things. Lol
CP have to disagree with you, before I got my Milwaukee ratchet and impacts I would just end up breaking bolts by hand, to avoid having to get the compressor ready and getting out the hose. Now I just grab the tool and I'm ready to rock! I use my Hi Rpm M12 Ratchets more then any other tool now.
I don't understand but cool!!
@@CPthetooladdict I'm not a professional mechanic, so I don't have my compressor set up. Pulling a power tool out of drawer is much more convenient.
@@damiencoffey2391did you miss the part where I said this is for the people who complain about cost of tools? Lol
@@CPthetooladdict Oops I guess I did miss that, more proof guys can't multi task as I was working and watching at the same time. Lol
You had the wrong air system set up. I've been maintaining my vehicles for over 30 yrs. I Started out with just hand tools. Once I got married, I had two vehicles to maintain. I bought my first air compressor, 8 gallon, back in 2014. I've since then upgraded to a 33-gallon air compressor. Overhead hose reel. Air lines and air outlets throughout the garage. My air compressor is always filled with air and ready to go when needed.
I do have battery powered drills, which I love those. Especially when working around the house.
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Lol. Whats with the bong, is that what you're hiding at 06:00?
No clue what your talking about acid is bad for your vision
semantics = the meaning of a word, phrase, or text.
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not hating an air tools at all but when the compressor takes a shit it’s costs a pretty penny to get a sparky and the air compressor tech to get out there. that being said a new nema 1or 2 starter is cheaper than new batteries (looking a you milwaukee, snap-on) just remember to drain the tank daily so you have air tools not hydro pneumatic tools
Buying a good compressor solves that it will cost you over 5k in 20yrs of the compressor to buy batteries those numbers are hard to deny.
You just buy another air compressor. You can buy a good one for a few hundred dollars. Also, an air compressor will outlive any battery tools, if maintained.
@@Pk3_Garage we got different ideas of a good compressor, a simple little 80 gal 7.5 hp 480 v IR is close to 3-4k a size 1 nema starter is close to $150-200 last time I had to order one. And a baldor 7.5 hp motor is gonna run close to 2k. (And that would be lower quality for a professional air compressor, no VFD or pressure sensor)
@@CPthetooladdict depends on how well the compressor is maintained, most shops and plants out here just run em till failure so you don't get the 20 years of life.
I'm speaking for the home DIY. (Like myself) Most don't need to spend that kind of money or need that big of an air compressor.
I have a Craftsman 33 gallon, 1.7 HP, 165 max PSI, oil free air compressor. Paid $325 for it back in 2016 on sale. It runs all my automotive and fabrication tools with no problem. I buy air tools that meet the SCFM of my air compressor.
So, I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars for the professional version.
How much do you have in hose,over the years, couplers, dryers, oil, belts? Think about that also bud.
With me I run 1 inch gun and gas driven. Few thousand for new one unless I go with harbor freight $1800 one
I have to disagree, maybe if my air compressor was quieter I'd feel different
The noise is a moot point, considering most people put them in places that are outside the shop area anymore to avoid noise issues.
Cuz no limited range, no waiting on the air compressor to build up, no smashed hands, no air tool oil, no hearing damage, better power a lot of times, bragging rights, no air hose to trip over, no air hose to clean up afterwards. I kinda get it if your shop already has air, but if you have to buy a reel, hoses, a good compressor, etc you may as well just go battery powered.
Sounds alot like lack of self awareness 🤔
@@CPthetooladdict how so?
Air is just to loud
Lmao ear plugs are super cheap.