Planting Trees - Preparing EARLY in the snow!
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2024
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Awesome that you are consulting on Huw Richard's place! Congratulations! It will be fun to see the synergism that occurs! 1+1=3. 💖☮
Thought the same! My two favorite garden youtubers together, yeah! 🎉
I’ve found that the Siberian peach has a super versatile form. Seedlings left to grow can turn into 16 and probably 20 foot tall spheres with dozens of upright shoots, pruned they can look like a normal orchard peach. They get surprisingly big if they’re getting full sun
That is neat to know as we only have a few strong plants growing in our landscape and they all have a more compact form at least for now!
Good advice on fruit trees in the shades of conifers. Also in your area and our largest apple tree sitting north of conifers had a bumper crop last year likely because it bloomed later. Anecdotal evidence, but totally tracks.
Wonderful information as always. Autumn olive has been overly slandered. It has its place :)
i am lucky to have quite a few autumn olive on the property i just moved to, right on the edges of the woods.
the berries taste wonderful in late fall!
This issue of the early arrival of spring has become a real problem the last 5 or 6 years in particular. I'd say we've only had one or two decent years in that time, with "late" frosts typically destroying the prematurely blossoming fruits. Last year we had literally no fruit - not even quince, which we have always had too much of until now. This year has been crazy, spring started for us (in South-East Europe/the Balkans) in late January basically - we haven't had a single frost since then, everything is fully out and we are just hoping against hope at this point that we aren't going to get a sudden late-March freeze. Seems the only solution, other than looking to plant in unsheltered spots where trees will think twice before blossoming early, is like you say to look into late-blooming varieties - but shifting the whole food forest over to new species isn't exactly something we can or want to do overnight, whether through planting or overgrafting. I don't even know if I like Siberian peaches :/
@@Ni-dk7ni My feeling is that (maybe counterintuitively) you DON'T want warmer temperatures, it will just bring the trees out even earlier? Rather you want them in depressions, places where cold air gathers, to actually PUT OFF them flowering as long as possible. It's the cold air/frost directly on the blooms that will kill them and having warmer soil won't help, unless I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
Autumn Olive is highly invasive in Michigan but when I find a way to use it, you bet I am incorporating it amongst my other plantings. I love these types of videos! My favorite channel on youtube.
Love the prunus observation!
I'm definitely going to plant more peach trees in spots where they have obstructed views of the southern sky. I didn't really make the connection until watching this, but it totally makes sense. The only one of ours that is doing well in VT is planted on the northern side of our barn. Seems that keeps it from leaving dormancy too early in the spring and then getting affected by the cold.
Spring 2024
I took some cuttings from a super productive autumn olive recently. Hopefully they will root out. I believe they are legal in Michigan but still frowned upon.
@Ni-dk7ni Only if you don't care about that it is severely damaging natural areas.
Really clever solutions!
Thanks Ben!
Have you checked out Metheley plum? It's a Japanese/American, self-fertile and it handles frost while flowering really well in my experience. It's like it plans on breaking bud before the frosts are over, honestly.
Interesting option, I will keep it in mind and thank you for sharing!
I'm ~43N here in Southern VT. Mid-winter thaws seem more likely than not in recent years. We're looking at two maple sugar harvesting seasons this year as a result. Thankfully, the trees didn't bud.
Weather is wilding!
Very interested to see the results of this experiment. We are getting milder in late winter but hard freezes just before the hot season starts here too. Going to look up Siberian peach for Canada retailers.
Shading in the winter to extended dormancy and mitigate the effects of climate weirdness is fucking brilliant
Do you amend the soil for your tree plantings? Thank you for the helpful videos!!
I watched the video of Huw Richards where he talks about your advice. What got me thinking was the self-sufficiency thing, especially with regard to compost.
How do you see it, you're bringing a lot of outside input into your system. I'm not criticizing it, I'm always on the lookout myself, but I can see the dependency.
A German gardening channel has also made a video on the subject. He called it compost self-deception. 🤔🤔🤔
I certainly don't have a claim that we are fully closed loop, etc... I like to try to generate as much as possible from our site but welcome free and waste materials from off site to help heal and build in our landscape. Leaf bags, wood chips, compost scraps, whole grain with other seeds in it, all welcome to our system. It's a nice goal to reduce or even remove all that but it doesn't feel critical to me at least.
Sigh. It is unlikely that *anyone* with only a few shrubs of autumn olive on their property has much of a problem with them spreading.The issue is that the birds eat the berries and poop out the seeds in parks, along rivers, and in natural/wilderness landscapes where people power is not available to control their rapid spread across large acreages. They push out many native shrubs and herbaceous layers, and often results in massive spraying of herbicides to combat it's spread.
Unless someone keeps their autumn olive shrubs constantly covered (or completely chops & drops before fruiting), they are contributing to the damage being done to large ecosystems across multiple states.
Plants can't invade a full ecosystem. As usual with 'invasive' species, the big one is humans. Once they come in, cut the native species, and unbalance the system, the opportunistic fast growers are promoted to fill the empty niches, once they have done their work, the original native succession and climax plants will do their jobs and those 'invaders' will be gone. If humans try to push succession backwards it will always be fighting nature, and only the most vigorous plants will survive. The harder humans push back the 'worse' plants they will get.
I'm not sure that I'd be able to identify a single area that I've explored in our region that I would describe as pristine and native and healed and healthy and vulnerable to incursion by autumn olive. With negligible exception all areas, and at least my general region have been so deeply abused, and extracted from by humans that autumn olive would be a welcome addition to bring fertility into the soil and stabilize erosion and support succession. I wonder if people identifying autumn olive in areas could replace the backpack filled with Monsanto product with a satchel of native canopy trees, that they simply plant next to the ally that autumn olive is. They disappear with shade and hickory and oak and walnut and on and on can provide that controlling shade.