All Smartphones Will Soon Have Removable Batteries

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • In this video I discuss how the EU has recently passed legislation that will require smart phone manufacturers to build phones with user removeable batteries that a regular user could remove without any special tools.
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Комментарии • 7 тыс.

  • @SpaceCadetKitty
    @SpaceCadetKitty Год назад +13542

    We all know that Apple is going to try to hardware lock their phones so you can only use batteries they sell for $599.99

    • @progenitor_amborella
      @progenitor_amborella Год назад +1087

      At least the bill says they must be easily replaceable - without proprietary tools.

    • @colbzyk2128
      @colbzyk2128 Год назад +1508

      they tried to do this shit when the EU said that every phone has to use USB-C. They were working on proprietary software to only use fast charging with their charges even though it can be done with any cable. The EU said that wasn't allowed.

    • @memesfromdeepspace1075
      @memesfromdeepspace1075 Год назад +88

      Well........they do with lcd screen they don't try ...they Will do it

    • @spl420
      @spl420 Год назад +554

      "Software shall not be used to impede the replacement of a portable battery or LMT battery, or of their key components, with another compatible battery or key components." From text adopted by Parliament

    • @Jason-se6dh
      @Jason-se6dh Год назад +23

      It’s 80$ lol

  • @Danominator
    @Danominator Год назад +9387

    Cant wait to see how the manufacturers work around this. Probably gonna make it so putting a third-party battery in your phone murders it or something.

    • @cazek445
      @cazek445 Год назад +849

      Pretty sure this is already illegal in EU not sure though

    • @jmtradbr
      @jmtradbr Год назад +1197

      Is only illegal if you get caught, just like Volkswagen.

    • @Danominator
      @Danominator Год назад +858

      @@cazek445 They could make it more subtle. Like, limiting the maximum charge because the battery isn't "genuine". Even printers will reject third-party cartridges in today's age. Anything can be programmed to disappoint I'm afraid...

    • @Wampa842
      @Wampa842 Год назад +350

      The charging cable regulation specifically prohibits throttling third-party cables and chargers, this one probably has a similar part too.

    • @23345star
      @23345star Год назад +160

      They'll probably do this but then never offer replacement batteries. "Yeah sure we'll make replaceable batteries but have fun with Xiaoing brand if it goes out."

  • @keelanbrown7747
    @keelanbrown7747 Год назад +1544

    Remember, switching to your secondary battery is always faster than recharging.

    • @zinnahsayarmahmud
      @zinnahsayarmahmud Год назад +63

      😂 cod reference nice one

    • @kornaros96
      @kornaros96 Год назад +5

      True that.

    • @RossGoneRogue
      @RossGoneRogue Год назад +24

      Your battery swapping skills are remarkable!

    • @onex0064
      @onex0064 Год назад +3

      I thought about shield swapping in apex but this reference is better

    • @Kommanderabdulghani
      @Kommanderabdulghani Год назад +4

      Yeah back to old days, we can open and change batteries, if phone hang just open the baterry and restart. 😂😂

  • @Levi-hs6mg
    @Levi-hs6mg 9 месяцев назад +49

    The biggest thing keeping me from keeping a phone for years and years is the fact updates usually stop coming way before the phone hardware is ready to retire

    • @GaryHarrington71
      @GaryHarrington71 2 месяца назад

      That will change too.

    • @ananthugopakumar4920
      @ananthugopakumar4920 20 дней назад

      Nowadays update causes problems than fix them.. aka green line issue after updating.😢

  • @michuXYZ
    @michuXYZ Год назад +3610

    EU made it's way from banning memes to literally uniting smartphone community by making everyone use type C outlet, and coming back to great tradition of swapping batteries
    What a great character developement

    • @Richard_375
      @Richard_375 Год назад +469

      Mad respect for EU FOR this because governments of our countries just being bribed by companies and they just shut of

    • @samuelcalkin3516
      @samuelcalkin3516 Год назад +138

      Water proof phones are exempt from the removable battery requirement, so most flagship phones will not have removable batteries

    • @Dr_Hax
      @Dr_Hax Год назад +221

      ​@@samuelcalkin3516even though water proof smartphones can have removable batteries

    • @Dr_Hax
      @Dr_Hax Год назад +105

      i remember the article 13 thing but apparently it was a bit overblown by the public, that thing seems to not be directed at users or users' content but only some companies

    • @baph0met
      @baph0met Год назад +31

      That's a myth. And it's terrifying people believe that. It was literally a joke, that the market decided on the C port all by themselves and the EU came long after, the joke was that after 10 years EU will claim it was thanks to them, it wasn't lmao.

  • @absolutelyproprietary6896
    @absolutelyproprietary6896 Год назад +2955

    I love EU's new consumer friendly regulations I wish they push it harder in the future

    • @HyperMario64
      @HyperMario64 Год назад +227

      Since the beginning they always have been doing that, but yeah there have been recent acts which the end-user immediately notices. They attempt to act in the people's best interest at least. That's not so obvious for smaller parties as governments while they should do the same. I think the large bargaining power is what makes it possible. The US could do the same but they are too ideologically attached to the wild free market and being corrupt in general.

    • @JacobsKrąnųg
      @JacobsKrąnųg Год назад +38

      dont get fooled by things like that. they are toxic and anti-human or rather anti-individual

    • @yohok5
      @yohok5 Год назад +107

      ​@@JacobsKrąnųgHow so? Could you give examples?

    • @matheussanthiago9685
      @matheussanthiago9685 Год назад +113

      ​​@@yohok5robably something on the lines of "mU FrEeDoM tO BeaaR Ar-15"

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 Год назад +152

      @@yohok5 Don't expect a rational answer from someone that claims the EU is "anti-human".

  • @MoteofVolition
    @MoteofVolition Год назад +1657

    This needs to happen! Such a backwards step when phones went to non-removable batteries.
    It will extend the life of phones by so much. No throwing away after 2 years.

    • @AJ12Gamer
      @AJ12Gamer Год назад +29

      Except that you won't get security updates beyond the end of life of the device.

    • @starsareangels7
      @starsareangels7 Год назад +18

      my lgv20 was awesome i had extra removable batteries and instead of charging i would have one charged fully from a dock and just swap it in and bang you got yourself a camping trip without needing the portable batteries

    • @GregorianMG
      @GregorianMG Год назад +49

      ​@@AJ12GamerYou can just install the new OS in that case though

    • @NicoKyunKyun
      @NicoKyunKyun Год назад +126

      ​@@AJ12Gamerthere is no such thing as security update😂, they're just adding more and more feature to bloat the device and makes it slower to use, and makes you think you need a new phone

    • @faleilham8334
      @faleilham8334 Год назад

      I miss my Asus Zenfone 4 gen 1.

  • @aaltag4068
    @aaltag4068 Год назад +27

    The main thing is that you would be able to just swap your battery after 2-3 years instead of needing to get a new phone

  • @Rr0gu3_5uture
    @Rr0gu3_5uture Год назад +2186

    Personally, I think that in the near future, all tech needs to be as flexible, modular, user serviceable, and non-proprietary as possible. If there are worldwide enforceable regulations it'll mean that manufacturers will need to up their aesthetics/ergonomics game and be as creative as possible in order to make their products unique and appealing to consumers.

    • @imstupidbut
      @imstupidbut Год назад +24

      tech becomes obsolete quickly, realistically very few people will repair their phone or replace their battery, just buy a new phone

    • @thebcwonder4850
      @thebcwonder4850 Год назад +148

      @@imstupidbut maybe a decade ago, but nowadays, I wouldn't be too sure. My GPU was low-end when I bought it 4 years ago, but I only had to replace it because AMD cut software support

    • @paxtoncargill4661
      @paxtoncargill4661 Год назад +148

      ​@@imstupidbutit becomes obsolete so quickly because they're not user serviceable

    • @realsong-fake
      @realsong-fake Год назад +64

      Modern electronics design is all about short term consumption. They want you to keep buying and incompatibility is one of the most effect way to force it upon you.

    • @noice5239
      @noice5239 Год назад +30

      @@imstupidbut The only reason I, personally, would buy a new phone is if it stops working. And usually, the first thing that makes it unusable is the battery.

  • @vauhner81
    @vauhner81 Год назад +1133

    Don't forget how the removable battery and cover act as a crumple zone to relieve shock when you drop the phone. Removable battery phones rarely broke when dropping them. The energy was released by launching the cover and battery across the room. :-)

    • @luizhp
      @luizhp Год назад +148

      My tv remote control has this feat and it's incredible how the cover can hide behind the couch in an lapse of second. 😅

    • @ImmortalChanger
      @ImmortalChanger Год назад +96

      I have three old Samsung Galaxy phones with removable batteries which I've dropped more times than I can count, and nothing happened to them. So I agree.

    • @MaxKoenig-Mk001
      @MaxKoenig-Mk001 Год назад +38

      Yes!! my first Galaxy Note was dropped from a balcony, about 8 meters on concrete. Inserted the battery, worked as always, screen perfect with no glass protector. 🖤

    • @zhanucong4614
      @zhanucong4614 Год назад +25

      if somthing dosent shake it will break

    • @driden1987
      @driden1987 Год назад +11

      I had an S2 back in the day (my only Android phone btw) and I totally remember that happening to me aswell. It was awesome

  • @micmacha
    @micmacha Год назад +2189

    As an American, I'm actually very thankful for moves like this from the EU. They affect the world globally, and aid us in addressing many of these issues with privacy practices and electronic waste disposal in the US, too.

    • @Jungfrun1
      @Jungfrun1 Год назад +189

      ​@@edelkebaphow so? EU privacy laws is pretty extensive. An easy example would be a citizens ability to block certain Google search results that relates to them. Which is why you see at the bottom a message telling you how many results have been hidden. Another would be cookie laws.

    • @potatofuryy
      @potatofuryy Год назад +199

      ⁠@@edelkebap The EU has some of the best laws around data protection and privacy.

    • @jenstrudenau9134
      @jenstrudenau9134 Год назад

      The EU is a very big and very bad organization. They do a lot of surveillance and regulate the shit out of everything. It's not good and this one thing is nothing to be thankful for in this context

    • @MrRemi6464
      @MrRemi6464 Год назад +69

      @@edelkebap says the guy who works in the CIA

    • @irakatski
      @irakatski Год назад +20

      Don’t ever thank the EU.

  • @Suicidekings_
    @Suicidekings_ 7 месяцев назад +15

    The LG G5 tactical reload battery was my absolute favorite. I wish they still made phones.

  • @couldntthinkofayoutubename6498
    @couldntthinkofayoutubename6498 Год назад +3443

    Nothing but respect for the eu standing up to big corporations

    • @mostsincerlypleasestoplook5025
      @mostsincerlypleasestoplook5025 Год назад +50

      Indeed

    • @nixda36
      @nixda36 Год назад +29

      Lol

    • @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
      @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese Год назад +66

      This isn't standing up. EU is controlled by financial services

    • @youreokayboah2128
      @youreokayboah2128 Год назад +240

      @@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
      Everything is controlled by money buddy.

    • @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
      @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese Год назад +39

      @@youreokayboah2128
      Finance, not money. Money is just a tool, like a drill or a weapon. It is the individual who operates the tool or the individuals who are operating the tool who must be examined.
      These issues cannot be addressed by personifing the tool or a casual reduction fallacy.

  • @Big1nz
    @Big1nz Год назад +1393

    Features removed a decade ago only coming back because manufacturers are forced to by regulation. Thank you EU. May they keep pushing in this directions including right to repair.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 Год назад +36

      Right to repair

    • @rudysmith1552
      @rudysmith1552 Год назад +59

      Sadly the eu word isn't law around the world. They're still the other 85% of the economy.

    • @TheSpecialJ11
      @TheSpecialJ11 Год назад +149

      Gosh, and the BS reasons they gave for removing these features. The young Zoomers don't understand the glory days of bringing a spare battery on the long field trip bus ride to swap out the battery after yours ran out playing Subway Surfers.

    • @CrittingOut
      @CrittingOut Год назад +84

      I think apple astroturfed it out of the market. I remember a mocking point for android was "the battery will fall out" or similar. Funny enough it's incredibly useful to be able to remove them.

    • @CrittingOut
      @CrittingOut Год назад +60

      @@TheSpecialJ11 Amusingly they would mock you for having a phone that has a removable battery.

  • @Cookie__XD
    @Cookie__XD Год назад +39

    Don't forget that smartphone obsolescence mainly stems from the OS not getting updates anymore and therefore missing new features (&security risks)

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber 10 месяцев назад +9

      those missing features & "security" updates are nearly meaningless. A working system should run for years. I still have a totally outdated Windows 10 (version 1809)

    • @cultistaautista
      @cultistaautista 9 месяцев назад +2

      It's the old environments being torn apart by the updates themselves to their components that get progressively less and less compatible with each other as you update some and leave others behind. Most phones work well when you factory reset them and abstain from updating software wothout total necessity.

    • @tylerlogsdon8623
      @tylerlogsdon8623 7 месяцев назад

      most games require newer versions anymore lol@@rgerber

    • @Stoynov666
      @Stoynov666 5 месяцев назад +2

      updates are shit mate

    • @DanielM.-mq4rm
      @DanielM.-mq4rm 22 дня назад

      The EU enforced updates for at least 5 years too!

  • @O___P
    @O___P Год назад +955

    One important privacy consideration: You can now actually, definitely disable your phone while still having it on you, even if you didn't go for one with hardware switches. If you don't want big brother to be watching, pop out the battery.

    • @walkingcontradiction223
      @walkingcontradiction223 Год назад +349

      They pop in a capacitor or something for that, don't worry.

    • @fotoschopro1230
      @fotoschopro1230 Год назад +193

      They have onboard batteries anyways.

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc Год назад +214

      @@fotoschopro1230 while this is true, those batteries have to run out of juice eventually. but the best way to stop big brother from watching is to not bring your phone.

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Год назад +187

      @@walkingcontradiction223 A capacitor the size you can easily fit in a phone will only last it for a few seconds, possibly to dump the drive's cache.

    • @Yates__
      @Yates__ Год назад +38

      But have a faraday cage just in case

  • @jeffreybensinger4668
    @jeffreybensinger4668 Год назад +1171

    I liked it when phones had removable batteries. It gave me a sense of control when the phone would ever act weird. Having a force stop option with a dissuading pop-up every time isn't quite the same.

    • @borisso3465
      @borisso3465 Год назад +77

      Exactly! My iPhone freezed once and all I could do is to wait until the battery drained, felt really weird.

    • @jeffreybensinger4668
      @jeffreybensinger4668 Год назад +7

      Over 100 likes? Wow

    • @VORASTRA
      @VORASTRA Год назад +12

      ​@@borisso3465it's weird, there was always a way around to restart your phone. For example, holding power button.

    • @keeprollin9911
      @keeprollin9911 Год назад

      ​@@borisso3465yeah when i got my second phone i was so confused what to do if the phone stopped working (happened to my first one a _lot_ ) But thankfully my second phone is still working fine to this day and just restarts itself when there's any trouble. ✓

    • @alexanderdunkel711
      @alexanderdunkel711 Год назад +22

      @@borisso3465there is a hard switch off, i genuinely thought i had to do that too but if you hold the power button long, like really, really long, it does a hard shutoff no matter how frozen it is

  • @user-ki8zf1rp1e
    @user-ki8zf1rp1e Год назад +891

    I hope we, the consumers, get a win. It'd be a shame if phones implement removable batteries just to have replacements blocked by DRM

    • @concertmaster
      @concertmaster Год назад +56

      I don't think we will get a win, the power imbalance between producers and us, the consumers, will always make us lose, so DRM or some other caveat it is

    • @aqyx
      @aqyx Год назад +20

      phone batteries already have DRM, chargers too

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 Год назад +16

      And OEM batts cost $700

    • @MrTomyCJ
      @MrTomyCJ Год назад +14

      @@concertmaster says the consumer, holding in his hands a device that 10 years ago would've been black magic.

    • @w花b
      @w花b Год назад +28

      ​@@MrTomyCJ at what cost

  • @FirstLast-vr7es
    @FirstLast-vr7es Год назад +4

    At least SOMEBODY'S government is standing up for them. Maybe we can have that some day here in the US...

  • @balloonpark
    @balloonpark Год назад +139

    Never forget that the samsung galaxy s5 released in 2014 had a removable battery and was IP67 dust/water resistant.

    • @Liv1ngTheDream
      @Liv1ngTheDream Год назад +7

      They still make an XCover to mil spec with a removable battery.

    • @voxelfusion9894
      @voxelfusion9894 Год назад +42

      Not to forget the 3.5mm jack and micro sd card slot! That was a nice phone.

    • @Sprinkles-r5y
      @Sprinkles-r5y Год назад +3

      The back of the case of my phone (s5) was flimsy and often come off. Once it come off and my mini SD card came out too and I never found it. Lost 2 years worth of my pictures including 2 children. So very sad. These days I have auto back up to google photos just incase.

    • @R3TR0R4V3
      @R3TR0R4V3 Год назад +8

      And it has an IR blaster! I still have mine. Great phone. 👍

    • @Arik_Cool
      @Arik_Cool Год назад +3

      It had a flimsy charge port cover that would snap off in most units

  • @windlink1236
    @windlink1236 Год назад +194

    Lets not forget that Galaxy S5 was waterproof, but still had removable battery. Also Samsung still manufactures Xcover models with removable batteries and dirt/water proof.

    • @alexderpyracc4053
      @alexderpyracc4053 Год назад +3

      Yes

    • @wilkinru
      @wilkinru Год назад +2

      Written on a xcover pro 6

    • @LarsaXL
      @LarsaXL Год назад +8

      So the only real reason for unremovable batteries is a lie... figures.

    • @-jg9pi
      @-jg9pi Год назад +2

      The S5 felt really cheap compared to other flagships like the Xperia Z3 or the iPhone 6. There was a reason they went for glass backs in the S6.
      And the waterproofing is only as long as the cover is on, so if the cover pops out on impact the ip rating doesn't matter anymore.

    • @rhuttrho88
      @rhuttrho88 Год назад

      ​@@LarsaXLNope government spying!🕵️‍♀️ 🕵️‍♂️ You can't remove the battery. At this point they can remotely power on your phone.

  • @besteirolnerd2615
    @besteirolnerd2615 Год назад +839

    I'm not european and I def don't live anywhere even close to europe, but still I'm so proud of the EU's latest decisions...first, they make it legally difficult for big data vultures like Meta/Facebook to breach your privacy, now they make the tech market healthier for the consumer. Congrats from Brazil, EU!!

    • @cesruhf2605
      @cesruhf2605 Год назад +36

      no hate but us europeans are scared of brasil

    • @apsdev
      @apsdev Год назад +9

      Yeahr .. but now meta has blocked their threads (twitter like) app in europe because of privacy laws. Lots of sites of american newspapers cant be reached from europe because of european laws. What if phone makers say we are not going to export anymore to europe. Like apple needs to add a usb port and removeable battery. And each time i come on a new website i need to click some cookie popups away because of european laws. Also if they cant target ads on people anymore on youtube they might have to show 3 times the number of ads to make the same amount of money to be able to pay for harddisks and servers to store video. Often the people who make these laws seem to be clueless about the subject like with the cookie law, they should have asked do you want to be tracked instead of do you want cookies, as cookies are usefull for things like preferred language or currency. And with the usb port on phones .. they call it a charge port. But on iphone it is really a docking port, as with it you can also connect the phone to a dock with speakers or video and other things. Maybe they should have said a phone needs a usb port OR a wireless charging option .. the coils all phones have in the back now. Which might also make it easier to charge in public places.

    • @bigruapurart
      @bigruapurart Год назад +108

      @@apsdev What? Manufacturers wont leave the EU because of laws like this or most others. They would lose a substantial chunk of the market if they did. What are you going on about?

    • @bertvansas7206
      @bertvansas7206 Год назад +71

      @@apsdev I don't know what you're saying, but the EU is the largest importer of apple products and Samsung phones. The goal is not completely focused on the convenience of the consumer or the companies to stop selling their products in Europe but to stop the monopoly, they ensure that the market no longer differs and evolves. The EU wants to stimulate competition and that is only possible if other companies can participate, which will lead to more innovation.

    • @abeldias3616
      @abeldias3616 Год назад

      ​@@cesruhf2605unless youre portuguese

  • @william.darrigo
    @william.darrigo 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm happy that EU is putting a stop to these ridiculous corporate practices that get consumers to purchase more

    • @maX-hv4uc
      @maX-hv4uc 10 месяцев назад

      but i think The EU did a lot more good than bad and united Europe like never before but of course there is a lot of stuff thats far for perfect and needs improvement. But thats how politics work unfortunatly but if i look accross the world we have it far better than most of the world and the EU cares at least about its people to a certain extent and thats not the norm in most of the world sadly

  • @theglowpt3
    @theglowpt3 Год назад +786

    Hope this really does happen, but it feels too good to be true. I feel like there will be some loophole to make it impractical to switch batteries while still making them technically "removable"

    • @hehe42069-k
      @hehe42069-k Год назад +72

      soldered batteries lmao. its "removable", technically.

    • @mr.zer0773
      @mr.zer0773 Год назад +124

      The batteries will explode after four charges and will cost 20$ each. Why? For the heckin' environment 👉👈

    • @MidWitPride
      @MidWitPride Год назад +176

      EU tends to go pretty hard on corporations. Not because of any heroic virtue or anything, but because they see corporations as a legitimate threat to their power.
      Corporate lobby just isn't as powerful in EU as it's in US. Consumer benefits are more of a collateral coincidence than EU being actually based. They are senile bureaucrats deadly afraid of corporations taking away their power, and sometimes regular people benefit from this feud.

    • @walkingcontradiction223
      @walkingcontradiction223 Год назад +80

      ​@@MidWitPrideCorrect, it's a weird by-product of the government wanting total control.

    • @nobodynever7884
      @nobodynever7884 Год назад +59

      ​@@mr.zer0773I pour a gallon of diesel in a nearby creek whenever I read the word environment.

  • @Obamium_
    @Obamium_ Год назад +920

    With regards to water resistance, the Samsung Galaxy S5 had a removable battery, whilst still having an IP67 water resistance rating. It's likely that there won't need to be a trade-off, unless manufacturers purposefully want to make their phones more brittle to regain their lost sales revenue.

    • @chumanho
      @chumanho Год назад +38

      Unlike IP68 phones, the S5 is water resistant, not waterproof. Try googling "The truth about the Galaxy S5 IP67 Water Resistant Certification"

    • @dayko.
      @dayko. Год назад +133

      @@chumanho IP68 phones are not waterproof either. Yes they can stay underwater for some time but certainly not forever. Waterproof means forever so they are still only water resistant.

    • @chumanho
      @chumanho Год назад +38

      @@dayko. I doubt any people need their phones to be able to be immersed in water forever, it's just that IP68 phones can be immersed in a greater depth for a longer period of time than IP67 phones.

    • @Anton-rr9kw
      @Anton-rr9kw Год назад +62

      Nobody should be scubadiving with their phone. Obviously your phone shouldn't get damaged by exposure to water droplets like when it rains. Maybe if people drop their phones in a lake by accident, it would be nice if they could retrieve them without damage in ~15min or smth. But tbh I would take removable battery over submerged water-resistance anyday. Never dropped my phone in a lake and never will.

    • @chumanho
      @chumanho Год назад +8

      @@Anton-rr9kw I live on an island and have to take a ferry every time I need to go to the city. Shipwrecks have happened before, and I definitely want my phone to function when I need it the most. Replaceable battery, to me OTOH, is not a life and death situation.

  • @Fedreal_Bureau_Of_Investigaton
    @Fedreal_Bureau_Of_Investigaton Год назад +607

    You forgot one important thing: you can be sure your phone it's off when you remove the battery. Also by the battery not being connected to the pins it doesn't drain at all compared to the phone when it's off, for emergency situations

    • @todaybuycheapsellhigh8072
      @todaybuycheapsellhigh8072 Год назад +12

      i didn't knew u can't remove batteries on some phones, lol. i would use those only if they were gifted,i would never pay for such things, lol. wonder how companies scammed ppl to pay for that

    • @MelVridos
      @MelVridos Год назад +11

      ​@@todaybuycheapsellhigh8072I mean....you could just recharge them with batteries charges or just charge your phone > swap batteries > charge again to always have a reserve batterie

    • @todaybuycheapsellhigh8072
      @todaybuycheapsellhigh8072 Год назад +7

      thats what i did @@MelVridos

    • @essef.
      @essef. Год назад +6

      Nope. They can be fully active without a battery but appear inactive.

    • @davidca96
      @davidca96 Год назад +17

      ​@@essef.That makes no sense, you cant power the motherboard without DC power, from the battery. With no battery, the board isnt powered so what are you referring to, a hidden battery?

  • @KingOfRedPlays
    @KingOfRedPlays 8 месяцев назад +2

    I'd like to see little charging adapters for spare batteries! Like how you get for a camera battery, just plug it in to a little plastic device that connects to a USB port and charges it up while you use your other battery to keep running the thing you want to use. Charge and use at the same time without any tether. I get this "feature" with my actually cheap and old camera, I want it on my phone, too!

    • @GeeEee75
      @GeeEee75 8 месяцев назад

      Yes. Just commented in response to another post that this would be a useful tool to have on hand. Kinda like the charger that came with my power-drill, which has a swappable battery.

    • @wmentzer58
      @wmentzer58 8 месяцев назад

      Like you'd have for a camera battery. I have that on my Sony camera. YES...

    • @KingOfRedPlays
      @KingOfRedPlays 7 месяцев назад

      @@wmentzer58 Exactly, and this needs to happen with phones. Drills have it, lawn mowers have it, laptops have it, cameras have it, even scooters have it to a degree, it shouldn't be different for phones and tablets.

  • @istyleonu
    @istyleonu Год назад +300

    Another pro of having a removable back is that it makes the phone less prone to breaking when dropped. The back case popping off when your phone hits the ground disperses alot of energy and reduces the impact on your screen.

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall Год назад +51

      yup.... i fully believe that is the case

    • @andguy
      @andguy Год назад +32

      @@kainhallhaha idk if the joke was intentional or not but either way it made me smile :)

    • @ClaytonTheCracker
      @ClaytonTheCracker Год назад +6

      Problem is the worst thing isn't your screen getting damaged, it's the interior workings getting broken that really screws you over, ain't no way that doesn't stop it from slowing down

    • @dutchcrepe
      @dutchcrepe Год назад +1

      @@kainhall ;)

    • @SilentShiba
      @SilentShiba Год назад +3

      No bro, technology can change over time. Last thing I want is more red tape from the govt when it's not strictly necessary.
      The battery thing was getting quite wasteful, but 9mm jack is not like a fundamental aspect of audio reproduction

  • @seafighter4
    @seafighter4 Год назад +536

    From what I heard, this also affect handheld consoles like the SteamDeck. A neat reminder that laws really can be made to help the people.

    • @eclipsek0
      @eclipsek0 Год назад +125

      Valve likes to be consumer friendly until they have to be friendly to the consumer

    • @_dibbs
      @_dibbs Год назад +14

      @@eclipsek0 holy shit so true

    • @adamthompson626
      @adamthompson626 Год назад +11

      Its sad that laws rarely help people these days. It is nice to see.

    • @augustday9483
      @augustday9483 Год назад +101

      @@eclipsek0
      I'm not exactly sure what you're implying with this comment. As far as I've seen, Valve has been very pro-consumer and pro-right-to-repair with their Steam Deck. You can buy replacement parts for it off the shelf, the board inside has an NVME slot for people who want to upgrade it with more storage space, and they even uploaded a video showing how to take it apart to swap parts.

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 Год назад +20

      @@eclipsek0 for the steamdeck its not that bad, because the parts arent glued in with gorilla glue, and it supports power delivery so its fine

  • @dank6554
    @dank6554 Год назад +166

    Small power banks aren't going anywhere unless all smartphone batteries are standardized. If you have multiple battery powered devices, it's much more convenient to have one charging bank for everything rather than carry 5 different batteries for each device.

    • @cferracini
      @cferracini Год назад +11

      but the point of having removable batteries is to extend the phone's life since batteries are usually the first thing to die in an electronic.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Год назад +5

      THIS! Huge oversight on the part of the video author there.

    • @gigaslave
      @gigaslave Год назад

      Or the powerbank is also used for other devices like my old 3DS.

    • @hydrohasspoken6227
      @hydrohasspoken6227 Год назад

      Dude. That end. 😂. What did you smoke?

    • @madbruv
      @madbruv Год назад

      charge for time or swap in no time, what is better

  • @jackfire3439
    @jackfire3439 9 месяцев назад +2

    the end to that video makes me so damn happy as a person who lives in the EU that sounds great!

  • @guestadd-block4879
    @guestadd-block4879 Год назад +486

    as a american i think i am going to start lobying the eu to make more regulations, so that in the us there will be more pro user features

    • @bigsmoke4568
      @bigsmoke4568 Год назад +124

      Your voice doesn't matter to the EU as an "American". You should spend your time lobbying your own government for change, like every "American" should.

    • @postmeme44
      @postmeme44 Год назад

      @@bigsmoke4568 Americans in the 50s used to make things like transformers, fridges were you can replace everything, cars, radios, etc. All changed in the 60s when the elite took control of that country killing the president

    • @doctahjonez
      @doctahjonez Год назад

      It's a shame the EU is probably giving the U.S. more freedom than the U.S. right now.

    • @MrTomyCJ
      @MrTomyCJ Год назад

      As a latin american I will have to suck it up and see how phones become even less affordable. Thanks regulators of the first world!

    • @MrTomyCJ
      @MrTomyCJ Год назад +50

      @@bigsmoke4568 if you want change you should support the companies who go in the direction you want, not go to the government so that they, at the expense of people who might disagree, force everyone to agree with you. That is the easy and immoral way to solve problems, and that mentality will fire back sooner or later.

  • @Stridsvagn69420
    @Stridsvagn69420 Год назад +644

    As an XCover user, I can confirm that having a removable battery while still passing military standards and IP68 works perfectly fine!

    • @dbro1205
      @dbro1205 Год назад +18

      As someone who had an Xcover, that phone was based on the hardware department

    • @sandwich5344
      @sandwich5344 Год назад +12

      IP68? that's pretty sweet, never heard of the Xcover - do they ship in Europe? And their origin?

    • @Stridsvagn69420
      @Stridsvagn69420 Год назад +9

      @@sandwich5344 Samsung Galaxy XCover, and they're available here! (I'm German)

    • @darkmugetsu6572
      @darkmugetsu6572 Год назад +3

      XCover Owner here :P

    • @Burn2002
      @Burn2002 Год назад +8

      yeah, walmart uses an XCover pro as their employee work phone, i was surprised when i saw it had a removable back

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Год назад +507

    I actually had an old phone that became unusable due to the screen display dying, and I got the same model afterwards. The old one became a glorified charging dock for batteries, and that was perfectly fine by me! 😅

    • @ano3661
      @ano3661 Год назад +46

      That's pretty cool actually

    • @bruhmoment2312
      @bruhmoment2312 Год назад +43

      another reason why removable batteries makes it so there is less ewaste

    • @meikamandoliini
      @meikamandoliini Год назад +1

      ​@@bruhmoment2312 no bruh. you need portable all-around-powerbank to save waste. removable batteries wont do what you are expecting. #capacitor #capacitance #enoughEnergyToSendAndReceiveSignalsForDaysWithoutBattery

    • @holesmak
      @holesmak Год назад +24

      ​@@meikamandoliiniyes just make another hugeass powerbank for your demand instead to reuse whatever you had before without introducing more batteries

    • @bruhmoment2312
      @bruhmoment2312 Год назад +8

      @@meikamandoliini since you didn't bother thinking about your response to my comment, I'll do the same ;)

  • @ryanrodriguez1234
    @ryanrodriguez1234 7 месяцев назад +1

    Governments should be for people not for profit. This is a great example of government doing it right!

  • @kingarth0r
    @kingarth0r Год назад +431

    Headphone jack needs to be next, it's actually ridiculous that you have to pay more for features that were free on older phones. Apple's greed knows no bounds.

    • @concertmaster
      @concertmaster Год назад +37

      the way we produce things is based on greed, sadly

    • @connoisseurofcookies2047
      @connoisseurofcookies2047 Год назад +63

      Or 2x USB-C ports instead? Could make for interesting new feature range such as dual batteries.

    • @kensuiki6791
      @kensuiki6791 Год назад +15

      @@connoisseurofcookies2047 Lenovo gaming phone enters the chat

    • @the_splits2360
      @the_splits2360 Год назад +1

      Removable headphone jacks?

    • @baseddepartment285
      @baseddepartment285 Год назад +3

      Well it's not really needed anymore considering how cheap the wireless headphones have become

  • @bahamut256
    @bahamut256 Год назад +139

    I used to carry around a stack of 5 batteries in a little plastic case, very similar to those 3DS cartridge cases.
    Driving through outback Australia without spare batteries was and still is tantamount to suicide.

    • @Curiefeld
      @Curiefeld Год назад +6

      Don't most roads in the outback have no reception though... unless you're talking about a satellite phone?

    • @aussiegruber86
      @aussiegruber86 Год назад +8

      ​@@Curiefeld it's getting pretty good up the middle, there are still times you go for hours without reception

    • @coler154
      @coler154 Год назад +5

      cant you use a solar panel or thermal generator?

    • @raiisleep
      @raiisleep Год назад +8

      ​@@coler154You can but would you rather be out there for 6 hours if your car breaks down waiting for the solar battery to charge

    • @glaze_tpf9791
      @glaze_tpf9791 Год назад +1

      ​@@aussiegruber86theres sections on the bruce and peak downs highway that are deadzones for 60%+ of the journey. I swear they are getting worse

  • @Vordigon1
    @Vordigon1 Год назад +525

    For the very few that have never seen a waterproof watch before that has replaceable batteries, or any older phone that had water resistance. The way you can ensure water resistance is kept was adding a rubber ring around the edges of the back that kept the insides airtight after the back was snapped /screwed on back and it was wonderful.

    • @mallmann72
      @mallmann72 Год назад +54

      I used to have a low range Motorola that had both a removable battery AND water resistance.

    • @Barvazonik
      @Barvazonik Год назад +13

      You can also quickly remove your battery and let it dry if it gets wet

    • @dbro1205
      @dbro1205 Год назад +11

      I used to have a Samsung Galaxy Xcover 4 with a detachable back and battery, it just had a rubber ring on the back plate around the battery and it is still IP67 water resistant

    • @Stridsvagn69420
      @Stridsvagn69420 Год назад +3

      @@dbro1205 I think even IP68, not that sure though, but the newer ones (XCover Pro (5th) and XCover Pro 6) both have IP68 and you can still open the back!

    • @dbro1205
      @dbro1205 Год назад +1

      @@Stridsvagn69420 nice

  • @rpcheesman
    @rpcheesman Год назад +10

    Those power banks kind of existed back in the day. There were extended capacity packs that did alter the shape/size/weight of the phone but would run for several hours or even a day more. I can imagine power bank makers just retooling these into shaped packs to fit mobile phone models.

    • @cultistaautista
      @cultistaautista 9 месяцев назад +1

      There are power banks which are made as a case in which you put your own battery cells yourself. These and the "power bank phone-cases" still exist now. The only issue that the battery cells themsevles are extremely hard to ship for a good price, possibly due to lobbied obstructive measures.

    • @GeeEee75
      @GeeEee75 8 месяцев назад

      But why would you need that if you could just replace your battery whenever needed. What would be useful is a charger for the spare battery, so that the spare can be charged while the other battery is inside your phone.

  • @rcommando1107
    @rcommando1107 Год назад +73

    Still rocking a Galaxy J7 prime with a removable battery,expandable storage and a 3.5mm jack. 2016 was crazy.

    • @greenfroggood2392
      @greenfroggood2392 Год назад

      Im still using this as well. What reason is there to change unless i wanted to game on the phone (i dont)?
      Didnt even know android doesnt have swappable batteries anymore. If not 3.5mm does that mean you must use wireless buds in modern phones?

    • @rcommando1107
      @rcommando1107 Год назад

      @@greenfroggood2392 Either that or you buy a doggle for it which means you can't charge the device at the same time.

    • @xXVibrantSnowXx
      @xXVibrantSnowXx Год назад +1

      Exactly, i still have my iphone X, and don't really plan to change or buy new phone, i don't even play on my phone, it's all PC or Nothing at all

    • @mearetom
      @mearetom Год назад

      me too! Android 8.1 Oreo is very stable, I think this phone might last 2 years. Or more, but battery seems a struggle. I'll replace it, maybe.

  • @jesseessej
    @jesseessej Год назад +272

    I believe the primary motivator was ensuring the phone could not truly be turned off, and allow unnamed agencies to power it on remotely at will.

    • @rodrigosouto9502
      @rodrigosouto9502 Год назад +21

      That is a great reason by itself!

    • @ethiesm1
      @ethiesm1 Год назад +5

      well said!!!!

    • @paravoidy
      @paravoidy Год назад +52

      This can still happen. There’s nothing in the legislation about having a secondary low level power source for such a thing. As long as the phones main battery bank is removable. Those “always on” chips in phones are extremely low power so imagine like a tiny 250mah embedded battery JUST for powering those super low power devices. I’m highly expecting there to be strings attached to this change, so to speak.

    • @metalmanexetreme
      @metalmanexetreme Год назад

      @@acmhfmggrunot from thin air, Snowden talks about it here
      ruclips.net/video/VFns39RXPrU/видео.html
      8:30

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v Год назад

      @@acmhfmggru Not a theory in a world where we know governments spy on us and have multiple ways to do so. You're in denial.

  • @JuanxDlol
    @JuanxDlol Год назад +68

    EU: "YOU WILL HAVE REMOVABLE BATTERIES, YOU WILL HAVE USB-C AS A STANDARD, YOU WILL LET PEOPLE FIX YOUR PHONE."

    • @FoxWolfWorld
      @FoxWolfWorld Год назад +8

      Yea! Big government is awesome! Let’s give central powers more power!

    • @deemonical3190
      @deemonical3190 Год назад +8

      ​@@FoxWolfWorldnah

    • @lv1543
      @lv1543 Год назад +3

      And you vill be happy

    • @deemonical3190
      @deemonical3190 Год назад

      @@lv1543 no

    • @szymex22
      @szymex22 Год назад +36

      @@FoxWolfWorldThese poor mega companies can’t screw over their customers oh no what will we do now

  • @polymorphesquirrel
    @polymorphesquirrel Год назад +3

    EU: introduces laws for the benefit of the customer. Americans: simp for the poor corporations which won't be able to charge you $100 for a battery replacement, and $100 for the charger.

  • @dubiouslycrisp
    @dubiouslycrisp Год назад +429

    "You will include the headphone jack. You will include the expandable storage. You will not lock down the bootloader to prevent the customization. And, you will not keep on adding these silly cameras to the smartphone. You will be allowed to have only 2 cameras. One on the front and one on the back."
    Strongly agreed.

    • @RainbowGod666
      @RainbowGod666 Год назад +11

      EXACTLY.

    • @imstupidbut
      @imstupidbut Год назад +36

      the EU needs to keep their grubby hands out of our pockets. this literally feels like something out of a dystopian movie.
      what’s next? phones aren’t allowed to have built in web browsers? magsafe isn’t allowed to exist?

    • @hannibalbarkas1350
      @hannibalbarkas1350 Год назад +129

      Agree but not on the camera. Having a real zoom camera with seperate lens is really good. digital zoom is not usable at all.

    • @Pibola64
      @Pibola64 Год назад +137

      ​@@imstupidbutthis is literally just "right to repair" and "right to ownership" as for far too long and far too frequently companies have taken the "yours to use, ours to own" BS to the quite extreme (depending on the company)
      If it settles you, as a european that has grown up in the EU, I highly doubt they'll prohibit built in web browsers and do away with "magsafe" (whatever that is) on the basis that it's just too much hassle to go through with, compared to hardware design and "the right to fully own"

    • @phoenixvance6642
      @phoenixvance6642 Год назад +20

      I would rather have like 4 cameras on the back and 0 on the front, honestly. It's nice imo to have a versatile camera in your pocket that has a standard, wide lens, and zoom lens, at least. Selfie cameras are useless to me.

  • @balloonpark
    @balloonpark Год назад +238

    Maybe in another five years I'll be able to get a phone with a headphone jack!

    • @ConsensusX
      @ConsensusX Год назад +41

      I'm still pissed off about the headphone jack.
      You can keep your Bluetooth, I want hard wires!

    • @GYTCommnts
      @GYTCommnts Год назад +14

      If you are not going for top of the line, something like the Galaxy A52 has 3.5 jack, NFC, FM radio, OTG, plenty RAM and storage in different models. Is posible to root it (except in the U.S.), water resistant, and there are 5G models... So, there are still some models out there with all that. I hope that we still have options in the future...

    • @ConsensusX
      @ConsensusX Год назад +21

      @@GYTCommnts it's a sad reality because flagships DID have 3.5mm jacks. It's not impossible, they just don't want. I can't get over that.

    • @doctahjonez
      @doctahjonez Год назад +9

      Not a chance they wanna keep charging us for wireless headphones for 5x the price of cheapo wired ones lol

    • @kiq4767
      @kiq4767 Год назад +3

      @@GYTCommnts Why is it not possible to root them in the US?

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 Год назад +261

    There were water resistant phones with removable batteries. Samsung made those sturdy series with button keypads. There were also commercial aimed phones that had removable batteries and water/dust proofing

    • @farounaga6931
      @farounaga6931 Год назад +10

      No phone is really waterproof, because if your phone goes into the water, the phone company will never accept to take it as warranty case 😢

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 Год назад +24

      @@farounaga6931 It doesnt matter, practical aspect of it matters. So accidental drop into water briefly doesnt ruin it.

    • @kelfablob9823
      @kelfablob9823 Год назад +4

      my old androids all survived accidentally leaving them out in the rain for hours without any IPS rating.

    • @farounaga6931
      @farounaga6931 Год назад +4

      @@Kacpa2 it actually does, don't forget that your phone has holes in it, so if you do not bring your phone directly to someone who can open it to remove water from the inside, sone of your conponents has a chance do be oxydated after

    • @andyk192
      @andyk192 Год назад +6

      This is true, but let's be honest, the water resistance sucked on the S5 which was the only Samsung phone that had a removable battery and water resistance. It is undeniable that the water resistance is better with glued phones.

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere 9 месяцев назад +1

    I respect Europe for standing up against corporations

  • @davidyoder5890
    @davidyoder5890 Год назад +203

    I think this may actually help the battery bank market. They'll probably begin making replacement rear cases with extended battery life. Of course, Apple and Samsung will probably just move the battery to behind the screen.

    • @Diego-de6dq
      @Diego-de6dq Год назад +20

      Or power banks for the replacement batteries. So whenever you change the batteries, you put the older one in a power bank slot that charges it.

    • @gabe_owner
      @gabe_owner Год назад +3

      The battery is already behind the screen in Apple devices. Through the display is the only entrance.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Год назад +1

      behind the screen??

    • @loveXclub
      @loveXclub Год назад

      ....are the batteries not already behind the screen?

    • @davidyoder5890
      @davidyoder5890 Год назад

      Yes the batteries are already behind the screen, but they aren't removable. On devices with removable batteries, typically the back cover comes off to expose the battery. Why? It's the least cost and lowest risk to have an untrained consumer replace a battery. If they break the back cover they can use tape to hold it in. However, if a consumer replaceable battery is located in a way where the consumer must remove remove the screen to replace a battery, this would be a dream for big tech because now they'll sell tons of screens from people breaking them all the time.

  • @tenhundredkills
    @tenhundredkills Год назад +317

    My previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy J3 Prime. Having a replaceable battery was one of the main reasons I bought it. When my phone started having performance issues due to the battery dying, it was $25 for a new battery, and everything worked as intended. It was awesome!

    • @icetrip2417
      @icetrip2417 Год назад +1

      Fr man

    • @infinitieunique
      @infinitieunique Год назад +1

      Why did you buy a new one then?

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills Год назад +19

      @@infinitieunique The hardware was extremely outdated. I couldn't update most of my apps as they were no longer supported on Android 7. Upgrading Android to a newer version wasn't possible due to the hardware limitations. Plus, I started to run into storage issues as that phone only had 10 GB internal storage. It was finally time for a new phone, albeit without an easily replaceable battery or headphone jack :(

    • @infinitieunique
      @infinitieunique Год назад +1

      @@tenhundredkills what do you mean by "not supported"? You can still use an old version like you used to when it was 2010 outside

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills Год назад +20

      @@infinitieunique "No longer supported" as in apps were no longer going to be receiving security and/or perfomance updates. Some apps flat-out broke (like MS Teams). Some of the apps I needed for work, so I didn't have much of a choice but to upgrade to a newer phone.

  • @Live4Gunz
    @Live4Gunz Год назад +134

    Honestly the worst thing to be killed off is expandable storage. I can deal with changing my battery every year or two.

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 Год назад +6

      Agreed. My Galaxy Note 20 is my last Samsung phone because of that.

    • @doctahjonez
      @doctahjonez Год назад +2

      Some new tablets have expandable storage still at least.

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 Год назад

      Get a Pixel

    • @0ffaI
      @0ffaI Год назад +7

      ​@@justayoutuber1906 They don't have it, Motorola still offers expandable storage

    • @R3TR0R4V3
      @R3TR0R4V3 Год назад +9

      I won't buy a phone without it.. That and an aux jack. Expandable storage is an absolute must, at least for me.

  • @ThorsMartell
    @ThorsMartell Год назад +43

    Actually I strongly support this!
    The only downside: I am a great fan of outdoor/waterproof phones. However, if the phone lid can be completely taken of, that makes it harder to build a phone that's water proof.
    On the other hand: Since outdoor phone like the Ulefone Armor X10 are physically indistructable, a changable battery is the only thing missing to extend the phone's lifespan to... very long. 10 years?

    • @entropy2002
      @entropy2002 Год назад +13

      There is a spray that inexpensively can make a phone waterproof - helping the phone become more waterproof was just a strawman argument that didn't hold water (no pun intended).

    • @milkyway5573
      @milkyway5573 Год назад +38

      The Galaxy S5 managed to be waterproof AND have a replaceable battery
      It is possibleto have waterproof phones with removable batteries

    • @NeovanGoth
      @NeovanGoth Год назад

      No worries, the EU regulation has a lot of exceptions built in, so you probably won't see many phones with removable battery behind a simple cover anyway. It's just all those news outlet parroting each other without actually checking.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 Год назад

      Wash fully waterproof and disproof @@milkyway5573

    • @cultistaautista
      @cultistaautista 9 месяцев назад +2

      It won't be much harder. The lid would have to be designed properly, clamp on firmly and have a simple rubber seal. That's literally it. Just look at any food container with an airtight lid, not complicated at all.

  • @a2falcone
    @a2falcone Год назад +138

    My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy Mini back in 2013, during my last year of high school. The screen broke after a couple of months, so my dad bought me another Samsung Galaxy Mini. Now I had two batteries. One charge didn't last a day, so I started swapping batteries. I used the broken phone to charge the spare battery, so I didn't even need to charge the good phone. I felt like a tech genius. Last week I was with one of my former school mates and he talked about how I used to swap batteries. They still remember.

    • @Playing096
      @Playing096 Год назад +5

      I used a Positivo cellphone (cheap Brazilian phone maker) it was my first phone that me and my brother got, the charger port in mine broke because it fell on a toothpick (don't ask me how, I got no idea) and we had to use my old grandma's Android KitKat phone to switch batteries (keep in mind that this was 2016, my family went from Android KitKat to Android 7 very slowly)

    • @mattwilson8509
      @mattwilson8509 Год назад +1

      I got a dedicated external battery charger and 2 extra batteries for my galaxy s3 back in the day. If you were very quick you could swap the batteries out without the phone turning off.
      Very rarely did I have to plug the actual phone in

  • @Dominik356
    @Dominik356 Год назад +40

    To be fair, the battery is not required to be quick to be remove. It can still require a screwdriver or any other tools. The key point here is that it has to be a very common screw driver or the tool has to be included when the device is sold. Which is an amazing idea. Oh, and no damn glued in screens and shit.

    • @illiiilli24601
      @illiiilli24601 Год назад +10

      I'll take that any day over having glued in batteries which are a pain in the ass to remove.
      (Work at a phone repair place and have had colleagues set batteries on fire when removing them. Happened once in my 2 years)

    • @russianyoutube
      @russianyoutube Год назад

      Repair places go bakrupt

    • @fussia2568
      @fussia2568 Год назад +3

      @@russianyoutube good.

    • @Robstrap
      @Robstrap Год назад +2

      Rip water resistance

  • @wookix
    @wookix Год назад +197

    I loved the Xiaomi Mi 2 phone. Came with a 3000 mAh battery but had a replacement shell that allowed putting in a 5500 mAh one. Used the small one for every day use and the big one for traveling.
    Both versions even came with a fitting protective silicone bumber.

    • @daks5122
      @daks5122 Год назад

      You know the CCP be looking at your PP on that ho, bro.

    • @beatyoubeachyt8303
      @beatyoubeachyt8303 Год назад +1

      disply 1080p max in 2013 to 1440p nax in 2014, 2160p max in 2016 still 2160p max only in sony Xperia phone

    • @bigblockman11
      @bigblockman11 Год назад +6

      You know that xiaomi is from China right? They love to have your data

    • @CoasterMan13Official
      @CoasterMan13Official Год назад +2

      ​@@bigblockman11Xiaomi is a name that screams Chinese.

    • @FrankAaron
      @FrankAaron Год назад

      @@bigblockman11imagine being silly enough to think that China having your data is somehow different and more nefarious than Korea or Cupertino, California having your data. I mean, all that info is for sale. If China wanted it, they’d simply pay Google and Apple and Samsung for it.
      What a dork

  • @TUFRTX
    @TUFRTX Год назад +1

    I still want the LG G5 cause it made battery switching so stylish and easy it is a BRILLIANT DESIGN.. Loved it and still do

  • @iQuickGaming
    @iQuickGaming Год назад +255

    they can keep it water resistant by making a battery that can be replaced like a SIM card with the SIM tray. You know, that thing you have to poke with the specific tool they give you to unlock the tray. I think that'd be pretty cool and functional

    • @Keylevitation
      @Keylevitation Год назад +16

      i too like this idea

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka Год назад +18

      Was thinking about this as well. Hell, do it with all the components connecting to a central motherboard in sandwich arrangement and you got yourself a completely modular phone

    • @OrganicFoxes
      @OrganicFoxes Год назад +14

      honestly best idea i've heard so far

    • @cantfindme-x4u
      @cantfindme-x4u Год назад +1

      good idea

    • @cantfindme-x4u
      @cantfindme-x4u Год назад +1

      @@pvshka fairphone

  • @TheAutisticOwl
    @TheAutisticOwl Год назад +197

    Imagine if the EU made the headphone jack mandatory on phones
    That would be my dream

    • @Belojadransky13
      @Belojadransky13 Год назад +18

      Try wireless and u will never go back , but be careful not to lost them around your house 😉

    • @TheAutisticOwl
      @TheAutisticOwl Год назад +42

      @@Belojadransky13
      I have tried wireless earbuds before and I liked them.
      But I hated having to charge them constantly, the connection issues i'd have from time to time, not to mention the constant anxiety about their batteries dying on the best part of the song.
      I went back to wired buds after almost two years and never looked back, I can tolerate untangling the rats nest if it means one less thing with batteries to charge.

    • @EinEgomane2
      @EinEgomane2 Год назад +2

      ​​@@TheAutisticOwl With around 5-10 hours of battery life, you should not worry about the battery

    • @cuckycuckcuck7431
      @cuckycuckcuck7431 Год назад +7

      ​@@TheAutisticOwlget some quality ones. Cheap wish buds wont make you happy.
      Good one have no connectivity issues and battery lasts about 5h.
      I just take mine out and they instantly connect to my phone and or tablet

    • @o_oKazio
      @o_oKazio Год назад +17

      wired earbuds can provide way better sound for just the fraction of the cost of wireless buds
      especially if you invest in a decent pair of $20 IEMs

  • @cultistsash
    @cultistsash Год назад +34

    I used to work 12-hour shifts as a security guard, if I wasn't able to change the battery on my phone I literally could not call people to let them know I needed to get picked up

    • @RomvnlyPlays
      @RomvnlyPlays Год назад +3

      You are resourceful are you not..? Power banks exist for a reason you know.

    • @ConsensusX
      @ConsensusX Год назад +30

      @@RomvnlyPlays You shouldn't need to rely on solutions that were created and sold from manufactured problems.
      Stop willingly allowing corporations and governments take your rights away, man 🤦

    • @RomvnlyPlays
      @RomvnlyPlays Год назад +1

      ​@@ConsensusX A manufactured problem is still a problem that needs to be dealt with, it is no excuse. While trying to keep your rights, you need to stay safe. That is the bottom line.
      EDIT: To be 100% clear, I don't see the OP's comment being a valid example of replaceable batteries, the issue being they weren't prepared.

    • @zachryder3150
      @zachryder3150 Год назад +3

      @@RomvnlyPlays OP was perfectly prepared every time they brought a second fully charged battery with them at the start of a shift.

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Год назад +7

      @@RomvnlyPlays The virgin power banker vs The Chad one phone 10 batteries

  • @GideonTheChaddite
    @GideonTheChaddite 9 месяцев назад +8

    A good method that I found to keeping older phones in a case was to get a more rubber / silicone based one that had some flexibility and put some layers of printing paper in the back for extra padding. Lot less issues that way at least personally. A little DIY can go a long way.

  • @Adrenaline_chaser
    @Adrenaline_chaser Год назад +609

    As the EU mandates this very useful policy I hope they also establish a framework for standardization of all batteries, so that the batteries from different phones can be interchangeable.
    Edit: After taking into consideration many of the replies here's my reformulated proposal:
    1. INCENTIVIZE standardization rather than forcing it, so that companies can either manufacture common products with standardized battery and receive a small tax-cut for it OR produce state-of-the-art high end devices with custom made batteries, but in that case pay higher taxes.
    2. OBVIOUSLY with standardization I meant standardized per category (based on capacity/application) i.e. all 4000 mAh batteries would be interchangeable among each other BUT not with 4500 mAh batteries, as those would obviously be bigger in size and would instead be interchangeable among other 4500 mAh batteries. I thought it was clear enough but apparently it's not 😅🤦🏽‍♂️
    Do let me know what you think about this and what else would you add, although I'm no policymaker, just an ordinary EU citizen (Italian)😅😂

    • @thexboxcat341
      @thexboxcat341 Год назад +55

      Yes that is absolutely too much

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад +64

      Space is so tight in a phone that the battery has to be exactly the right size to fill the space to maximize life while minimising the size of the phone. Standardisation would be great but seems very unlikely.

    • @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355
      @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355 Год назад +3

      Dream on 🙄

    • @censored4christ162
      @censored4christ162 Год назад +47

      Its wild. If you bought a car and they said the batrery wasnt changable you probably wouldnt buy it

    • @Alto53
      @Alto53 Год назад +1

      Bad idea.

  • @Cha0sNicr0
    @Cha0sNicr0 Год назад +98

    As a German I have to say, that accent was priceless. I'm not sure whether the batteries are going to be that hot-swappable. There is a chance that they might include a water-seal that breaks on removal. So that you can swap them yourself, but only for a one-time replacement per battery. Let's see what they come up with to separate RAW from RAI this time.

    • @CoronelNasc
      @CoronelNasc Год назад +12

      I think that wouldn't work. Like, that's basically needing to break your phone in order to open it, or needing someone specialized to open then close it for you.
      Maybe the companies could use that for a year or so, but I don't see judges letting that go, at least not in Europe.

    • @spl420
      @spl420 Год назад +8

      "a portable battery or LMT battery shall be considered readily replaceable where, after its removal from an appliance or light means of transport, it can be substituted by another compatible battery without affecting the functioning, the performance or the safety of that appliance or light means of transport." From adopted text

    • @Cha0sNicr0
      @Cha0sNicr0 Год назад

      @@spl420 I read this as "you can take the battery out easily and replace it with an equivalent battery." Doesn't specifically say, that you can put the same battery back in. It just says that the appliance is unaffected, not the battery. But I might be off. Portable should mean portable.

    • @spl420
      @spl420 Год назад

      @@Cha0sNicr0 well, could work in short run, in long run will only increase usage of cheap Chinese batteries as replacement.

    • @madbruv
      @madbruv Год назад

      @@Alexander-jr8nw swap while on the charger of a powerbank. i had phones that worked with no battery only with a charger plugged in

  • @coalcreekdefense8106
    @coalcreekdefense8106 Год назад +84

    I'm so furious that this feature went away. On my last phone, I had four batteries, and a charger that would charge them without them being in the phone. It was such a good feeling knowing I actually had enough juice to get me through the whole day, plus enough to last me while the empty ones were charging.

    • @BobbyTheDogUSA
      @BobbyTheDogUSA Год назад +2

      Hi. Me too, but I went thru more batteries than 4. LG had charger cradles. Need that to cone back too.

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Год назад +2

      You should take a look at the Samsung xcover 6 pro, fully waterproof with a swappable battery. It takes about 60 seconds to swap to a new battery that you had recharging on a rack, AND it has a microSD card slot AND a headphone jack.

    • @coalcreekdefense8106
      @coalcreekdefense8106 Год назад

      @@heroninja1125 It's disturbing that I'm excited to hear about features that would have been bog standard ten years ago, but I really am. I'm gonna check it out!

  • @SHUBHAM-eh2vb
    @SHUBHAM-eh2vb 9 месяцев назад +4

    I wish they apply this worldwide in every phone ♥️

    • @Exodius3
      @Exodius3 5 месяцев назад

      It could happen, as products often just adapt their phones for the EU law and then sell them world wide to make the management less complicated. All hail the EU!

  • @TheMrCos1
    @TheMrCos1 Год назад +137

    Keep in mind, having removable batteries does not mean you will be able to swap them on the go. For what i understand the legislation is focused on ease of repair and recycling; the manufacturers most likely will keep using permanent glue and the sorts for that sweet sweet ipx rating and propietary repair services.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Год назад +2

      Heck if supercapacitors existed.

    • @oliverborromeo8460
      @oliverborromeo8460 Год назад +62

      The good news is that the EU regulation forbade proprietary repair tools and it must be removable with commonly available tools at least.

    • @burn_out
      @burn_out Год назад +5

      @@oliverborromeo8460 as long as they don’t consider a heat gun to be a “commonly available tool”

    • @entcraft44
      @entcraft44 Год назад +3

      @@burn_out It must not include heat or solvents. However, it doesn't state "commonly", it states "commercially available", "not proprietary" and "not specialized" (unless it comes with the device for free).
      That means everyone can buy the stuff, but if the manufacturers really want, they could use tools that nobody has instead of basic tools like screwdrivers.

    • @Cr_nch
      @Cr_nch Год назад +3

      @@entcraft44 “not proprietary” means they can’t just use tools no one has.

  • @BartemPlus
    @BartemPlus Год назад +36

    Not exactly, for what I read in the proposal, the main difference will be that the batteries may not be glued in place, require custom tools for replacement, or be paired with the rest of the phone in software. So not a thing about quick swapping, but still - small victory.

    • @CubicApocalypse128
      @CubicApocalypse128 Год назад +10

      watch them start filling the entire battery compartment with resin for the non-EU markets

    • @entcraft44
      @entcraft44 Год назад

      @@CubicApocalypse128 It's much easier than that if they dare to be so obvious about it: Software pairing for US model batteries, but not for the EU models.

    • @donnguyen3795
      @donnguyen3795 Год назад +4

      @@entcraft44 they should ban software pairing, those iPhone self repair experience look like a torture

    • @entcraft44
      @entcraft44 Год назад +4

      @@donnguyen3795 The EU has done that. "Software shall not be used to impede the replacement", if I remember the quote from the regulations correctly.

  • @berkkarsi
    @berkkarsi Год назад +74

    I remember back in the mid 2010's when my Samsung Galaxy S3 had a removable battery. Whenever I ran out of battery, I could swap it out with another one or even a bigger one with a larger back panel. It made the phone thicker but it was worth it.

  • @DanielM.-mq4rm
    @DanielM.-mq4rm 22 дня назад +1

    "user removeable" does not mean "easy". No "special" tools can still mean you have to unscrew your phone. I don't think we will go back to replacable within seconds, but you will be able to fix your phone yourself in an hour or so

  • @WarlordEnthusiast
    @WarlordEnthusiast Год назад +153

    I remember when phones had removable batteries, I swapped the battery at least 3 times and extended its life for years. I only gave it up when updates had stopped and the OS was too old.
    I had a friend who did the exact thing you described in the video, he had a case that could fit 4 batteries in it. He used a spare phone to charge them at home then throw them in the case for long trips. He'd have at least 4 days worth of battery life from that case.

    • @EmeraldEyesEsoteric
      @EmeraldEyesEsoteric Год назад +4

      This is inexcusable! I have a tablet where the battery began to swell, forcing me to get rid of it. Unfortunately, it was taped and there were apparently wires or something that got ripped out, so basically I have to throw away the whole tablet now.

    • @alter112
      @alter112 Год назад +2

      I know someone that took out the battery and had a special charger to charge it separately without another phone. It was kinds funny how it worked so well. He had 200% battery at all times

    • @xpmyt341
      @xpmyt341 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@alter112external charger , separately to charge a backup removable battery. Good old day

    • @bro_leo
      @bro_leo 9 месяцев назад +2

      Back in the day, you can get an external battery charger too.

    • @bro_leo
      @bro_leo 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@alter112 If you have 5 batteries, it will be 500% 😁😁

  • @Hirohitorunguard
    @Hirohitorunguard Год назад +62

    This is great, It solves a very annoying issue with batteries warping which can destroy the entire phone. This means you can just swap out the battery when its damaged and not risk your phone blowing up in your face.

  • @akeem2983
    @akeem2983 Год назад +27

    I think that those regulations don't forbid, for example, battery cases that are fixed in place by Phillips screws, or battery cases that require to put a paperclip in the hole to open them much like SIM and SD card slots on most phones. This makes it relatively easy to design water-resistant devices as well as eliminates the risk that battery case will open by itself if the phone will hit the ground

  • @kiskispass9821
    @kiskispass9821 Год назад +2896

    I'm pretty sure that removable batteries have saved someone's life at least once in the past two decades.

    • @Thevol40k
      @Thevol40k Год назад +411

      From the law too.

    • @hehe42069-k
      @hehe42069-k Год назад +220

      @@Thevol40k based

    • @valletas
      @valletas Год назад +89

      Saved mine a lot of times due to old samsung phones destroying batteries after a few months

    • @speedyd8150
      @speedyd8150 Год назад +189

      ​@@Thevol40kMy old heroin dealer used to make me take the battery out of my phone for the first month I started buying dope from him 😂

    • @nayutakani2055
      @nayutakani2055 Год назад

      I'm sure they've also fucked someone over as well.

  • @Enygmate
    @Enygmate Год назад +113

    I bet today's technology would easily allow manufacturers to achieve this while still maintaining the water resistant and slim designs

    • @tanostrelok2323
      @tanostrelok2323 Год назад

      Old era phones would fall on water and keep working without issues, these motherfuckers are just lazy

    • @doctahjonez
      @doctahjonez Год назад +21

      It's already been done lmao Kyocera had a whole line of waterproof phones not super long ago. All with removable batteries.

    • @Saphman4
      @Saphman4 Год назад +13

      Galaxy S5 did.

    • @Saphman4
      @Saphman4 Год назад

      ​@@doctahjonezI believe they still do with their flip phones. What you're referring to is the hydro line.

    • @MrTomyCJ
      @MrTomyCJ Год назад +2

      But not for cheaper, otherwise it would already be a thing. And that price has to be paid for every consumer, including those who were not necessarily interested.

  • @chris307
    @chris307 Год назад +48

    Hopefully if they don't go too crazy against third party batteries, I remember when you could actually get kits where you could get BIGGER batteries with an after market back. It was so cool to flex and say "oh my phone never dies because I just got the BRICK battery.

    • @SuperTank121212
      @SuperTank121212 Год назад +6

      Had that on my Galaxy S3 lol, looked goofy as fuck but no one was laughing when others were running out of battery and I was trucking around above 50%

    • @yoyoninjaboy6431
      @yoyoninjaboy6431 Год назад +1

      Zerolemon ftw

    • @chris307
      @chris307 Год назад

      @@yoyoninjaboy6431 omg I forgot about them. The name alone brings nostalgia.

  • @NotDanValentine
    @NotDanValentine Год назад +282

    The #1 problem I've experienced with Android phones in the last 5 years is that the charging port gets extremely loose after a year or so. Then it becomes nearly impossible to charge unless you have the charger shoved in and in some unique position, until the charger just falls out again. The charging ports need to be fixed. There should be an option to click it in and out so it doesn't just fall out.

    • @goofyahhslimjackson1942
      @goofyahhslimjackson1942 Год назад +10

      Same though lesser with Apple

    • @wwlb4970
      @wwlb4970 Год назад +124

      Type C largely fixes this problem compared to Type B-micro

    • @essef.
      @essef. Год назад +40

      I usually find cleaning the lint and grime out fixes that problem. I have a samsung s8 from 2017 and it needs a clean every 6 months

    • @jakubkucera1973
      @jakubkucera1973 Год назад +42

      @@essef. Exactly, it feels like the port is geting loose, but it's actually just a dust build up.

    • @brianriddle8389
      @brianriddle8389 Год назад +14

      This is primarily caused by debris buildup in the charging port. I've found that phone cases with charging port covers tend to mitigate this.

  • @bobbear4437
    @bobbear4437 10 месяцев назад +1

    This ruling will keep me from buying a flagship phone this year,
    just getting a mid level priced one until the new replaceable battery ones come out!
    Next they need to regulate security updates!

  • @thesplatstrategist
    @thesplatstrategist Год назад +67

    I think there can be a major difference between replaceable batteries and the removable batteries we had in the past. There can still be screws (nonproprietary ones) holding a backplate and ensuring a seal, while remaining user replaceable

    • @sinnwalker
      @sinnwalker Год назад +4

      Don't think that a ip68 rating will stay after replacing the battery. It's not a simple seal.

    • @madbruv
      @madbruv Год назад +5

      @@sinnwalker GASKETS EXIST :o

    • @sinnwalker
      @sinnwalker Год назад +9

      @@madbruv Again, it's not that simple. Otherwise we'd have the option, even in most modern budget phones now it's all sealed up. Being THIN with GREAT protection against debris and having a replaceable battery system isn't that simple.

    • @RiversJ
      @RiversJ Год назад +12

      It is that simple, it always has been and lots of devices including modern smart phones have had that feature the same you can have any electrical connector be intrusion safe against liquids. The difference is 0.5€ and 1.50€ per phone in manufacturing costs.

    • @kimutone2970
      @kimutone2970 Год назад

      ​@@sinnwalkerAre you dumb? Are you suggesting cheap phones don't have replaceable batteries because if it was useful, it would exist there?
      Are you forgetting the Galaxy S5 had a removable battery, removable back cover AND 3.5mm jack WHILE HAVING IP68.
      Not to mention, even today, NOT A SINGLE COMPANY THAT SELLS WATERPROOF PHONES HONORS THE WARRANTY OF WATER DAMAGED PHONES.
      What the fk are you even on about?

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot Год назад +93

    Waterproofing is trivial, I have had multiple flashlights that you could dive with, and they had replaceable batteries. A simple latch or twist mechanism and an adequate gasket is pretty much all you need.

    • @ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
      @ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Год назад +8

      Let me twist my phone RQ

    • @ajsrf
      @ajsrf Год назад +7

      You’re not comparing a phone to a flashlight right.

    • @tiagotiagot
      @tiagotiagot Год назад +4

      @@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg If you need a little extra torque, just add an indent you can fit the edge of a coin in to get better grip and there you go.

    • @KainRazielMT
      @KainRazielMT Год назад +9

      @@ajsrf You never heard of gaskets, right?

    • @tiagotiagot
      @tiagotiagot Год назад +1

      @@ajsrf Fair enough, a phone got a few more apps besides the flashlight app.
      But seriously now; all you need is keep the electrical contacts of the battery away from external moisture, doesn't matter where the contacts lead to, if they're dry they are dry.

  • @sandcat731
    @sandcat731 Год назад +27

    I miss the tactical battery reloads. Looking forward to it coming back

  • @nikhil-kulkarni
    @nikhil-kulkarni Год назад +99

    One point you did not mention is that when embedded batteries degrade, they tend to swell and exert force on the internal components. I remember my old phone's screen warping and popping out slowly with the battery expansion. It is a common issue with phones and tablets.
    I support this regulation by EU. Great video man! Subscribed! ❤

    • @sammyd7857
      @sammyd7857 Год назад

      So you knew it was wrecking your phone but did nothing about it?

    • @nikhil-kulkarni
      @nikhil-kulkarni Год назад +16

      @@sammyd7857 This occurred during the COVID-19 lockdown. I was in quarantine and electronics shops were closed. At that time, Chinese imports were banned in my region. Due to this, costs of all components had more than doubled. Chaos was spreading like wild fire!
      My business was suffering loss and I had to shut it down. I had no source of income.
      People had lost jobs and it seemed bad to ask them about a trivial phone battery. Technicians were not able to find a compatible spare battery. I was all alone and there was nobody to help me.
      The woman who once loved me decided to abandon me. I had outlived my utility and she saw me as disposable now. I was helpless; I was sitting in front of the phone all the time bearing the false hopes that she would change her mind and call me back. I had no option but to keep staring at the phone and watch its battery swell day after day. I had sunk into depression; there were bigger worries in my life and the battery was the least of my worries.

    • @Engiduck
      @Engiduck Год назад +1

      ​@@nikhil-kulkarnidamn that is sad

    • @nikhil-kulkarni
      @nikhil-kulkarni Год назад +7

      @@Engiduck That is how life is. Man blinks his eyes and the scenario changes. Man has to keep himself prepared for the worst.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 8 месяцев назад +1

      If they could perfect super-caps with more energy density which charges up fully in a few minutes and never degrades due to no chemical reaction (uses static charge), that would be the holy grail of cellphone batteries. they could just seal it in forever and it would outlast the lifetime of the phone. ;)

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto Год назад +24

    I might be wrong but when I read the news it said that the battery should be easily user replaceable, so not necessarily pretty much swappable in a matter of seconds, but without the use of any special tools, knowledge and glue. So I believe plain old screws are going to make a comeback. I'm sure we'll still have glass-backed phones, with wireless charging and proper water resistance. It's not impossible to mount the glass to a carrier frame that can be screwed to the main chassis without any visible screws. The engineers just need to be smart about it.

    • @TheGrejp
      @TheGrejp Год назад +6

      You are right, most people are misinterpreting this new regulation. They will have to be easily replaceable without proprietary tools (unless shipped with the phone) and heat.
      This is about extending phone longevity so most phones will probably still not feature easily swappable batteries.

  • @gamerman7276
    @gamerman7276 Год назад +1

    Everyone on earth has had to deal with phones that become unusable because the battery can no longer hold a charge, but nobody in the comments will mention this.

  • @stage6fan475
    @stage6fan475 Год назад +42

    Is is just me, or do you hear a warm glow and happiness in Kenny's voice any time some bad news for Apple drops.

    • @___gg421
      @___gg421 Год назад +8

      Hating on apple let’s the other companies off to easy

    • @xXVibrantSnowXx
      @xXVibrantSnowXx Год назад

      It's just you

  • @leandroperalta
    @leandroperalta Год назад +31

    The other part of the planned obsolescence for smartphones is OS upgrades. I wonder if they will limit upgrades even more to force you to get a new device.

    • @snook.1
      @snook.1 Год назад +12

      EU has regulations for that too, don't worry.

    • @bot-h2h
      @bot-h2h Год назад +1

      xiaomi 2 year security update

    • @jaronnamir8868
      @jaronnamir8868 Год назад

      That was my reason for moving from a rooted Motorola RAZR MAXX to Google Pixel 2 back in 2018. They stopped OS upgrades and my apps stopped working including banking and Uber.
      To this day, I still think I should have just flashed a ROM, now I am on a pixel 7 which is kind of doo doo, cause it doesn't always detect touch on the screen.

    • @jaronnamir8868
      @jaronnamir8868 Год назад

      @@bot-h2h Same with the google pixels

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Год назад

      @@bot-h2h tf that's pretty damn short

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver Год назад +20

    My prediction: the casing has a proprietary gasket that wears out if you remove the back plate more than a few times, causing damaged phone from tiny amount of water leading to replacing either the gaskets or the entire phone.

    • @adr2t
      @adr2t Год назад +3

      1st, more devices can take a little bit of water already. If not, then you didnt seal any of the hardware inside correctly (at the manufacturing level). 2nd, there are ways to make this happen that doesnt expose the insides to the outsides. 3rd gaskets can be solid - right now its double sided tape/glue - just make it part of the repair process.

    • @paxdriver
      @paxdriver Год назад

      @@adr2t methinks you missed the point a bit... the point was, engineering it to fail; not describing my brilliant and uniquely wonderful solution to an obviously not impossible problem

  • @hamburgerhamburgerv2
    @hamburgerhamburgerv2 Год назад +2

    The US should do this too!

  • @Ssyphoned
    @Ssyphoned Год назад +73

    The crazy part is this has been considered for over a decade at this point ever since they stopped being removable. Took forever.

    • @jimbotron70
      @jimbotron70 Год назад +3

      Lot of lobbying, I suppose.

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 Год назад +1

      It is not that easy to convince everyone to go against big corporations

    • @jimbotron70
      @jimbotron70 Год назад +1

      @@whitezombie10 They make offers one... uhm... can't reject...

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 Год назад

      And they only returned it because their sanctions backfired on them, the timing is almost a coincidence

  • @syn86
    @syn86 Год назад +32

    Water-resistant devices have existed before all the manufacturers decided to stop batteries from being replaceable, so that won't change, unless it would be their push against the regulation.

    • @russianyoutube
      @russianyoutube Год назад +1

      Samsung S5?

    • @eleh1337
      @eleh1337 Год назад

      Xcover by Samsung: Ip68 with removable battery

  • @TIOLIOfficial
    @TIOLIOfficial Год назад +33

    Man, I've still got my Redmi Note 8 Pro that I bought in 2019. It's still working fine, except for when Xiaomi decides to slow all of their old phones all of a sudden. I still don't know why not one phone reviewer has ever talked about this. It's what's definitely is making me reconsider getting another Xiaomi again.

    • @SebastianDavidPB
      @SebastianDavidPB Год назад +2

      My mother uses the 8 pro while I have the 10 pro, no issue with battery life, but there is another issue with phones nowadays, after 2 years you get bombarded with bullcrap ads to a point that it gets annoying

    • @netbotcl586
      @netbotcl586 Год назад +4

      I got a Redmi note 10 and it got extremely slow after 2 years for some reasons. installed a custom ROM and it is fast as new.

    • @SebastianDavidPB
      @SebastianDavidPB Год назад +1

      @@netbotcl586 Mine works ok, just the damn pop up ads are annoying

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 Год назад +1

      Install antivirus and don't update it. Problem solved. Updates slow all the phones, unless it is brand new phone and needs some tweaks.

    • @ljiljankocurcic8893
      @ljiljankocurcic8893 Год назад +1

      They slow phones because battery degrades and it is not able to efficiently supply processor demands and it is risk of overheating and maybe explosion. So you should be thankful they slow it down for you.

  • @_BLANK_BLANK
    @_BLANK_BLANK 6 месяцев назад +2

    I really miss the day when we could battery swap. Hopefully they dont actually wait until 2027 to comply with this.

  • @hackbarrow
    @hackbarrow Год назад +14

    I agree that having a lower battery capacity is a acceptable trade off if you can swap out your battery, but I can also see how many people will complain that it's too much effort. While the battery is small you still need to carry it around and some people propably won't care to try and figure out how to replace it.

  • @zanpo86
    @zanpo86 Год назад +52

    This "water resistance" motive seems like a myth to me. Back in 2014 my Samsung S4 fell on the lawn with the sprinkles turned on for 1 hour. So the phone took a lot of water in that time. When I recovered it and wiped it good, it worked perfectly, nothing broken. I still use the phone to this day, 9 years later, daily. I only changed the battery 3 times since then. So I very much agree with this law.

  • @carlod1605
    @carlod1605 Год назад +26

    It's not supposed to be removable but rather user replaceable with commonly available sruedrivers or custom tools shipped with the device

    • @srsjackson
      @srsjackson Год назад +2

      I think the EU law specifically states it must be possible without any tools.

    • @spl420
      @spl420 Год назад +2

      @@srsjackson no, it could be commercially available tool(so basically something common you can go now and by in store), or tool specifically for this device. In the latter case you should ship tool with device. And tool can't be proprietary.

    • @mihailoaleksic3330
      @mihailoaleksic3330 Год назад

      ​@@srsjacksonI think it would be nice to have more water resistance and use a SIM ejector for ejecting both the SIM card and the battery

    • @imstupidbut
      @imstupidbut Год назад +1

      so the way iphones are now?

    • @straightwarlock5341
      @straightwarlock5341 Год назад

      @@imstupidbut exactly, i do not understand these clowns who imply that iphones are not repairable. just buy a screwdriver for 60 cents and a new adhesive if you want it to stay waterproof

  • @JasonLE89
    @JasonLE89 9 месяцев назад +1

    US needs to do this. Bring back removable batterys

  • @cnhtol1586
    @cnhtol1586 Год назад +67

    they should also mandate yearly security update for 4-5 years on all phones, including budget. (atleast)

    • @americanbagel
      @americanbagel Год назад +7

      That would be insanely expensive for not much benefit. It sounds cool, but it's not realistic financially

    • @MrNexor-cj8gs
      @MrNexor-cj8gs Год назад +26

      ​@@americanbagel nonsense

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc Год назад +3

      mandate for who? the consumer or the manufacturer? either way, that sounds like a terrible idea.

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 Год назад +5

      Mandatory updates for 5 years after the last device sale.

    • @pessoaanonima6345
      @pessoaanonima6345 Год назад +3

      @@americanbagel The comment said yearly, so it would not be that expensive to maintain. It's just security patches anyway.

  • @ripHalo0002
    @ripHalo0002 Год назад +76

    In 2009 I used to take an extra battery to school with me so I could switch it out on the way home! Felt so cool doing the battery reload

  • @theskirata7034
    @theskirata7034 Год назад +59

    What I‘ve seen mentioned around a couple places that I really like is the suggestion of the battery being replaced similar to the SIM card. little tray or something in the side that pops open and allows you to get the battery out through said hole and replace it.

    • @kora8063
      @kora8063 Год назад +6

      that tray would have to be massive or there would have to be multiple ones since batteries are much bigger than sim cards...

    • @BarAlexC
      @BarAlexC Год назад

      HTC desire hd style

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 Год назад +2

      ​@@kora8063what if multiple smaller batteries? Like little french fries

    • @kora8063
      @kora8063 Год назад +2

      @@kajmak64bit76 I think that might work, newer phones already have a battery divided into parts, but I don't know it if wouldn't be too complicated and hard to achieve

    • @sethreign8103
      @sethreign8103 Год назад

      @@kora8063 lg g5 was like that

  • @rusty29965
    @rusty29965 10 месяцев назад +1

    If you look at most new Smartphone presentations/reveals/trailers, you'll quickly notice that they're being presented as luxury products. Apple is notorious for doing this but there are other manufacturers out there that do the same. The point being here, that a lot of manufacturers contributed to the status symbol narrative. In today's age smartphones shouldn't be presented as luxury, they're incredible tools to get us through every day business. Wake up with its alarm, navigate to work with it, reply to emails on the loo, browse the internet or socials to take a break, find a place to have lunch, keep in touch with people you're not seeing on a daily basis, the list goes on and on.

  • @WINTERMUTE_AI
    @WINTERMUTE_AI Год назад +11

    I doubt they mean hot swappable, but a regulation that mandates easier replacement under the RIGHT TO REPAIR, when the battery depletes, is good regulation in my opinion.

  • @francez123456789
    @francez123456789 Год назад +18

    I absolutely would love to have a user replacable battery. No good excuse for it to not be the case

  • @EmperorShang
    @EmperorShang Год назад +54

    The use cases described in this video are pretty out there. I'd just want to replace my battery when it can't hold a charge anymore

    • @aiocafea
      @aiocafea Год назад +6

      yeah same
      maybe this fixed-battery tyranny has brainwashed me and i cannot even fathom the powers i could gain by opening my battery case and my mind
      but i did use to have removable batteries, and what it meant was i would remove them for hard resets or at the end of their life, never really thinking of juggling batteries so i am constantly powered. it also feels sort of wasteful? unless they were really cheap, i would find it risky and less efficient to buy multiple batteries so they can all be weathered by use and time for a phone that may potentially break

    • @manfredrichtoften8848
      @manfredrichtoften8848 Год назад +2

      ​@@aiocafeaman, I basicall used my S5 untill the battery was shot and holy hell do I miss being able to do a hard-reset when my phone now starts acting up.

    • @achillesa5894
      @achillesa5894 Год назад +2

      Yeah, a powerbank is nice because you can charge it separately from the phone, use it to charge anything, it'll still work after buying a new phone or if you lend it to a friend etc. I really don't think hot swappable batteries are more than a gimmick, especially with modern phone battery capabilities.
      Repairability on the other hand, that I'm excited about!