I agree. My mom's now husband proposed on Christmas and didn't tell all of their kids that was happening. Their kids combined we're 23, 21,20, 17, 10, 8. I am the oldest. Once I got there, my mom basically said " look what I got for Christmas" I was like " oh cool". Then, everyone was pissed at me for not getting back the memo when I wasn't told anything about the proposal. They had only dated for four months by that Christmas and had barely been together a year by their wedding. It ruined all the relationships with my mom's extended family. So now my sister and I don't get to see our uncle. But, now I have to deal with my mom's husband and all his kids at every family occasion.
I think the whole "you're the child I'm the parent" rationale is a reason behind why kids can be distant from their parents or can lead to a lack of respect. While I don't think you have to explain and 'get permission' you do have to understand that they are coming into the FAMILY not just your individual life. The decisions you make regardless of how old your child is is going to affect them in some way. Making a decision without any type of notice or discussion, especially a big one holds a sense of control and power unnecessarily in this instance. A parent doesn't need to ask permission but ensuring that there will be respect (at the bare minimum) is so important. Parents are raising whole people who will be adults and not just bots who should blindly accept anything they are telling them.
Exactly. As Jeannie said older generation often feel like they deserve respect but respect doesnt need to be transferred back. Like I am sorry yes you don't need my permission but you are just going to date someone, marry someone and bring them into my life without a heads up and that is okay but as the "child" even in my own home I dare not do that. Madness.
@Agatha jay i think she's saying when it's life changing moments. Not if "I'm going to go out tonight is that okay with you" situations but rather "I'm bringing someone in your life who will hold the mother figure in your life for possible forever" situation
I agree with Jeannie AS USUAL. lol You need to tell your kids because there is a REASON BOTH DAUGHTERS do not like her. Sometimes I think stupid men don't see how really bad a person is for you.
It is not just men. If your kids dont like their step mom or father, it is a problem parents should acknowledge and address before getting married or proposing. That new person is going to be part of their life too. Giving a heads up to your child is not asking their permissions, it is including them in your own life ( especially if they are still under your roof).
But sometimes its not the kid that dont like the woman its their mother that dont like the new woman and the kids feel bad for their mother. And start hating the new woman too. Ive seen it in real life. Some mothers even make kids hate their own father. So these grown kids need to let their father live his life like he lets them live their own life with different boyfriends and such things.
I think when the kids are young then you do have to make the children aware of your future plans. Its not a sense of entitlement, its a sign of respect.
Yes and security and responsibility!! Men can run along marrying without taking care of the last relationship result? But OMG kids should act mature! What a joke
Dae Louise She’s saying this bc of what she experienced. When she was younger it never influenced her in a negative way, which is sooo by she’s saying, that if her parents didn’t do it, she’d be fine.
BBBRRRROOOOOOOOOOOO! yo and the fact that she used an example where the father(israel) did tell his kids was the kicker LOL! entitlement!!!????? you step father doesn;t need to tell you ANYTHING, but you FATHER needS to let you know, grown or not!
As someone who is in ablended and family, and my partner also in a blended family, neither of us were told about our parents plans on re marrying. That being said we were grown adults at the time and just want happiness for our parents. He knew his mom had a new partner for a long time had met, we’re basically a family unit, my I knew about my moms new partner we were close. These girls more than likely already knew this woman really well, and it’s really not gunna be that different because they’re older, 17 and 21. I’d see having to sit down and explain it to a child, not grown women . They need to get over themselves, if that’s how they feel it shows they just don’t like her
Chloe Sandrelli It probably isn’t that they don’t like her, it’s that he didn’t tell them about him proposing before hand. You want your child to respect you regardless of age you need to respect them too and what he did was disrespectful. It’s not like he is their uncle or friend, he is their father and that women will be their new step mother. If you don’t understand why that is disrespectful then I don’t know what else to say. He is their father not a stranger or distant relative.
Agatha jay he did it on national tv. That is disrespectful to them no matter what you say. If he did it in front of family that is ok. But he did it on national tv so his DAUGHTERS found out the same time as millions of people around the world. It’s like saying they aren’t that important
Right? If I found out about one of my parents getting married after millions of other people, that would feel like a slap in the face. A heads up really isn't that hard.
I don’t think he really knew...he had just lost his mother and when you lose some one most people evaluate their lives and make life decisions. That what this seemed like to me, he loves her, she makes him happy so he wanted to make her his wife.
Adrienne...that’s their father...bringing a step mom into their life...they should’ve known omg “entitled” my ass 🙄 Also, when did they say their dad needed their permission? A heads up and a conversation about this major change in their lives would have sufficed. God I swear she be jumping to conclusions sometimes 🙄
Adrienne... what??:/ Like they’re not just random people acting like he has some obligation to them, they’re his CHILDREN?? If you’re not obligated to your children then who? Your children should come before any partner. And no one was saying for him to tell them the exact time and place?? But he should have given them a general idea that he was ready to propose.. that’s such a bizarre reaction from Adrienne to me
Isamari Rodriguez it’s not about them being children or not age wise it’s about them being his children. And he can still make it a surprise while having given them the general idea he was ready to propose which is what I said. You also don’t know their reason or if he’s in the right/ wrong, I’m not making him out to be the bad guy I don’t know anything about him or the situation. I commented on ADRIENNE’S reaction based off the information SHE and we as the viewer were given.
I agree with her too. It should bother you that your kids dont like their future step mother and as a parent leaving them to find out big decisions about them which you know they wont take well is quite selfish and disrespectful. Some parents dont value their kids opinions and input in regards to their private life tho which is baffling.
Jeannie made perfect sense. People need to stop acting like who they marry won't have an impact on anyone else but themselves. You do that, then wonder why no one in the family likes your new spouse. Well, in some cases, had you done your job and informed your family that things were about to change, they could have prepared for it. Don't think that because you are in love you get to dismiss everyone else's feelings.
Nah!! if the kids are getting a step mom, let them *know* in advance. what? you think the marriage only affects the Dad and not the Children? let them Know!!!!
Its Jules those girls are holding the blame here. It’s their dads special moment and they’re throwing shade. That’s selfish and rude. And unfortunately I do think most millennials do act that wat
Chloe Sandrelli you do understand millennialis are mid twenties early thirties right.... people feel the need to blame an entire generation when the real millennials are the parents😂 smh The statistics still apply just not for us so it’s an invalid argument
I don't know if this is a culture thing but I don't see a 17 or 21 year old as being a full grown adult. They still need and want the love, support and reassurance of their parents.
Dang Adrienne! Can Jeannie be an individual and be allowed to feel how she wants to feel? I mean, that's going to be the person's new parent. I would for sure want to know before they proposed. I don't think you should try to stop your parent's happiness, but a heads up would be nice.
i dont think its entitlement. i think it's a sense of respect? my best friend went through this and i think it just kinda felt like a slap in the face like oh okay. maybe they wanted to be apart of it too?
missbrittneyann I feel like at age 17 and 21, as this has happened to me, it doesn’t matter if you want to be apart of it, that’s not a the child’s choice, nor is it their place to say what they want that’s their dads choice, it’s his love, it’s his heart, and if he wanted to keep it a surprise then they need to respect that, they’re grown
missbrittneyann Exactly! The same situation happened to me. My Dad did not tell me that he and my Stepmom were getting married. I felt left out and it hurt. It’s all good now, but at the time I felt like I missed out on such a special moment.
Jeannie's situation is quite different though. Those girls didn't know about their father proposing and she had no idea her mom was already married for three years! Also, she seemed quite emotional here I think mama Mai's decision really bothered her :(
Honestly, that makes me wonder about Mama Mai. Jeannie tells stories sometimes that make her sound pretty disrespectful, but I always shake it off with the thought that I don't know all of the details, but hiding a marriage from your kids for three years is a whole different level of disrespectful. And clearly Jeannie is still upset about it a year later.
I can relate to Jeannie, my dad did the same thing, but I heard from other people he has a new wife, but my dad didn't tell me till 4 years after the marriage. It's like if your daughter/son was gonna get married or proposed to, you'd like to know at least 🤷🏽♀️
The fact that Adrienne has stepchildren of her own now makes her comments here more baffling. Maybe if Israel's children weren't on board with their marriage she could understand better.
golidoll you’re talking like you know her. I completely understand your opinion but you need to understand hers and let her have it. Just because someone has a different opinion than yours doesn’t make that “uneducated” she just has different experiences..
Isamari Rodriguez No, they don’t. My personal opinion is kids over everything If both your kids aren’t feeling this girl maybe there’s a reason for it. Maybe it’s a sign.
I'm starting to wonder if Mama Mai and Jeanie are even close. They may spend a lot of time together but that means nothing if she can get a boob job (and lose her nipples in the process) and get married without Jeanie knowing. Its very strange.
@@omphilemoerane2569 I think Jeannie is trying too hard to win her love because she's mentioned before that her mom told her that she loves her brother(s) more so I think that's it but I have a feeling in general that it's not a very healthy relationship between them
I wonder if Adrienne know people are not going to react the same way as she does in situations and that's okay and therefore should not feel the need to bash their character because it differs to how she would have reacted. How is wanting to know such a huge part of your parent's life (not a stranger but parent) someone,who will not just be in their life but yours too being entitled?. Of course he should not ask for permission but it would be a decent thing to communicate about the situation. (That's if the girls didn't know about her or the engagement.)
I feel like adrienne feels like her opinions are always correct and anyone who doesnt agree with her she undermines.lol. personally i think permenantly bringing a new person is a big deal and should be discussed with your children regardless of age as they will be seeing one another regularly and they are becoming apart of your family. Its just a sign of respect and letting your kids know you value them knowing the littke details of your life.
Exactly, Adriennes always personalises every situation and is not great at being objective. She's always been my least favourite, even before Tamar left.
I don’t care if I’m 13 or 30. You better believe you need to tell me as my parents that you are getting married, ‘cause I’m sorry that’s not me being entitled, that’s me wanting to know about someone who could potentially be my step dad or step mum. But also that you want them to be part of my family too. There’s so much more to it then just being ‘entitled’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄 ALSO ADRIENNE... Just cause you don’t care if you’re parents don’t tell you about whether they got married or not, doesn’t mean everyone else thinks that and you shouldn’t think someone is being entitled because they feel like they should’ve been told 🙄🙄🙄 Side note: Stop blaming everything on being ‘millennials’ and being of the younger generation. There are things that older people do that irk me but I don’t blame the entire generation for it. That’s just stupid. We’re smarter than you think ☺️🙄
With little kids who are still living at home and whom u both intend to discipline or direct, yes talk to them first about a new family member- with adult children, it's respectful but not a must to tell them! If am going to call u dad or mom i need to know about it a head of time
@@desiretesi1723 yea and israels kids are grown. He was married to his first for a little over 20 years, hes 47 years old, and his eldest has a son. Since apparently you dont have to check with grown children I'm asking would Adrienne have liked to just marry him without talking to them first? Remember, his oldest has a whole child right now and they were only married 2 years ago. She needs to think before she speaks. Ugh.
zippity dooda Adrienne implies that Israel told his children he was going to propose to her at 1:34. Adrienne doesn't have to tell the kids, she's not related to them. As the father Israel has an obligation to inform his kids of important life decisions
Adrienne thinks its entitlement and him asking for permission but its not about asking permission from ur children but telling them because they arent going anywhere and no matter how old the children are they should know, because like jeannie said they are becoming a part of the family
I love Adrienne but it kind of hurt when she said that our generation has a problem with entitlement. I’m 15 years old and my dad got married without telling me... It really hurt my feelings also I’ve only known her for a month...
I agree with Jeannie on this one. I mean if you have kids, at least let them know that you're gonna propose. No one's asking for an approval, but it's respectful. I know I wouldn't like that!
OMG can Jeannie just get her own show already?! If I needed solid advice from any of these 4 about any & everything, it'd be Jeannie - she's so wise & could do without the others not always talking over her all the damn time! Ugh so annoying esp. when I'm really feeling Jeannie's advice/opinion/insight! Love you Jeannie!!
One of his daughters is still a teenager and the other is just getting her wings. Yes I think he could've given them a heads up. I'm sure he would want the same respect if his daughter's guys were planning on proposing to them.
I actually think there’s something wrong with people from ‘back in the day’. how can you not tell your children you’re planning to marry someone. They can disagree but at least they know! I don’t agree with the fact the daughters made the issue public but I can understand why they’re upset. I’m surprised Jennie is the only one who spoke the truth.
If I’m your child and I’m living in the house with this person that you are moving now into the house I should know. That’s weird that I wouldn’t know. I feel like they wouldn’t feel this way if it was reversed if it was a mom that randomnly got proposed to and the man is the one uprooting everyone’s life
That's what happened to me and they the older parents just wanted me to go with the flow. Truth was I was super uncomfortable with someone so new coming in to my home and life just expecting me to be like okay this is how it's going to be and just go along with it. I'm older now but still felt hurt that I wasn't talked to about it.
If it was a woman who was proposed to and moved a man in without warning she would be mommy shamed. It is not entitlement, it’s respect and while mothers can’t get away with not having that mutual respect with their children, Men, in this case, do. Seventeen and twenty one are not that old. Yes, you are obligated to tell your teenager that another woman is entering your life, even at twenty one. And they can go around blaming millennials but I myself am seventeen and I am Gen Z, they are blaming their own generation and with simple knowledge they would know that.
Tia I When my now husband and I were planning to marry, we took our kids ages 19-11 out to a nice family pizza restaurant. We sat down as a family and talked about how we’re not going to disrupt his 2 who were in high school ( out of town) we made sure they graduated with their class and friends. Then after we moved them in. They were all very happy for us and the kids got along SO incredibly well. My son got an older brother and his daughter gained 2 sisters🥰 Now, three are in college( the oldest graduates from UCLA in June) and my son is the youngest, a sophomore in hs. We have a very blended multi cultural family. But, the love and support is real🙌💯 We even coparent with my ex and his wife 😃 it just works!♥️
I think it’s definitely something you should at least talk to your immediate family about.. of course they won’t decide for you but I think it’s nice to have that discussion. This is someone you will want your children to respect and now it can seem like your pulling one over on them. I don’t know.
ßrandon I don’t think their needs to be a discussion, because it’s not up to them, his dads heart and love does not concern them especially since they’re both adults and not much is going to be changing for them. They don’t need to build a connection with his wife the way a young child would need to. That’s my opinion as someone who has lived through this exact situation
Chloe Sandrelli Yes, I stated that they can’t decide for him.. but the youngest is 17 and she is most likely still in the household. To not at least talk about it beforehand seems a little bizarre.
Honestly I feel like its really disrespectful to not ask your children spec if they live at home and the new partner is going to move in sooner or later. If my children did not like my partner I would not marry that person. Kids should always come first not some wack girlfriend that your kids dont even like that is probably going to leave you in a few years for a richer man anyway. Also adrienne you are almost 40 imagne at 17 just waking up one day and finding out that your mom is going to marry a man that you dont like and cant see as a parentfigure. I would be hella pissed and disapointed.
My dad asked me when I was 14 if it was okay to marry this girl he was dating. He didn’t have to do that but it’s a sign of love and respect for me. It’s a big deal bringing a new person into the family.
I agree with Jeannie. Telling the kids about the proposal suggests not only that he is ready to be with their mother but that hes also ready to become a step dad and take on the role of protecting,loving and helping them throughout their life. Its not only a change for the woman but also a big change in the life of her kids because now you have to get used to this change no matter how "grown" you are.The new step dad might have a different mindset,values,dreams,expectations,different plans for the family etc. Its important for them to know that he wants to be with their mother just as much as he wants to be their stepdad as some teenagers fear of being neglected or lonely because theres not always a strong bond between the step dad and the kids. Telling the teenagers beforehand is a symbol of respect and makes them feel more included and important. Also, it can help to strengthen the kids trust and bond with their new step dad which leads to a positive,loving family :)
I like that the ladies are DISAGREEING with each other, just be respectful and do NOT cut each other off. Loni was rude AF to Adrienne yesterday. And Tamera and Jeannie usually never beef over topics.
These ladies are human like anybody else they will make mistakes and misjudge situations. Tamera has apologised on Instagram for how she addressed the topic and I personally think the true sign of maturity and growth between friends is when you disagree but still holds hands while you laugh and smile later!
Absolutely you include the kids i don't care what age they are. If my dad who has been widowed since 2016 were to get married again i would want to know if he was planning on proposing just because i feel it would be respectful to at least let even your grown children know what your plans are
Absolutely, I think its so disrespectful to not consider telling those closest to you. To find out your Mum got married & you didn't know is hurtful & inconsiderate.
it has NOTHING to do with entitlement, it has everything to with the parent and child relationship. It's respect, as your child I would like to know that you're getting married because at the end of the day you are still my parent. Imagine not knowing such a big thing about your mother or father, that is such a disconnect.
To me it's not really entitlement and it really has nothing to do with "this generation" it's something so important and special I would feel some type of way if it wasn't shared with me idk lol .. Adrienne poppin off this season 😅
Angie Reveles this has happened to me, I was the same age, 17. And I was just really happy for my mom, and the only thing that changed for me was a title. I feel at age 17 and CERTAINLY age 21 they should be able to separate their dads love and heart from their own personal needs what they said was entitled they felt like they automatically get the right to know.
Isamari Rodriguez That depends on your situation and which family members. If you have kids living with you it’s odd to not let them know you’re bringing someone else into the family. Especially if that person will be a parental figure in their life.
After Adrienne explained her thought process I can understand her point, BUT I would still want a heads up if I were getting a new step parent regardless of how old I am. Even if the kids don’t like her, out of respect for them being his children (they were there before his fiancée came), they had a right to know. If he were to have heard their opinions and still proposed that’s a different story.
Did anybody catch Tameras side eye at adrienne when she cut her off. @1:24-1:27 I feel like something changed with tameras attitude this season, but we'll see.
Sorry Adrienne thats not entitlement its respect. Its important to tell you family because if things fall apart or the woman is gold digger or just not a good person its your family that will be there for you. Also sometimes love is blind and sometimes your family can see negative characteristics that you don't see. Im in my thirties ad if my parents are gonna remarry i have to know the person and know that they intend to marry them and i will be giving them my opinion on it positive or negative and if i dont like their new partner i will not be at the wedding.
I agree with Jeannie. The is a whole new person that is coming into your life. Even if your kids are grown you should tell them. It's not like you are going to separate your life and not talk about that other person or not have them around.
I think when you have children especially ones that are still in the house that’s a conversation that needs to be had ... but I agree with the ladies I think had his daughters truly liked her it would have been a surprise to them ... a happy surprise and it suck that they made the statement right after his big moment
Agree with Jeannie on this one. These kids have every right to know that Information but in the end they still should’ve never publicly said what they said.
I think this differs with every family situation. For myself my father passed when I was 9 and my little sister was 3. My mom just got remarried when I was 22 and my sister 16, yes we were both older but it was huge for my mom not only to date someone but to get married. She sat us both down and just told us they wanted to get married and were going to do so privately just between them. Both my sister and I love our step dad he treats our mom so wonderful. I felt it was the right thing to do telling us they were getting married, as it’s only been the 3 of us and the only man we’ve ever had in our lives was our father. Also because we are her kids and are now welcoming someone into our lives that will fill our fathers position for the rest of our lives. In no way was she ever obligated to ask permission to live her life and love who she wants, but just letting us know the situation before hand so we would have no reason to feel some type away about either of them.
I'm with Jeannie on this one! I would like to know what you're thinking of doing. Even if you don't care about my opinion it would be nice to know what's going on in our family!
Feeling badly for Jeanie. Lost respect for her Mom. That's messed up - not telling your children (even if they are grown) that you're married!?!? Who does that?
I love Jeannie. She reminds me of someone I could just talk to about everything and she always has such sophisticated input. But I can tell that she’s been through some things in her childhood, that’s why she’s so adamant on not wanting children, I think. I felt the same way and now I’m pregnant with my first, lol.
Mama Mai is so gangster. Lol. If I was the child I would want to know. I wouldn't want to see a ring on her finger and not know they were even going there... but it is grown folks business so just be happy you found out before the wedding!
Patrice “I wouldn’t want to see a ring on her finger and not know they were going there” I just feel like at age 17 and 21 you’re capable of understanding where a serious relationship might be going. imo they don’t need to know, nor should they feel they automatically have to know. To me that is selfish and taking away his moment
For me, if you have kids you should tell them and give them a heads up. No matter how old they are. If they aren't pleased with it, then be the parent and figure out why, find out the underlying or obvious reason. Have a conversation, maybe you think she/he is the one but your children have a bad feeling. When you're married and it's not working out, I guess you don't want your children to tell you "I told you so" and give you a lecture. But when you don't have children, you don't have to tell or ask permission from anyone, not even your parents. It's about your overall happiness not your parents their partial happiness. Just make sure you are absolutely sure you're marrying the right one. Don't rush it but place yourself as an outsider and look at your relationship. Sometimes love can be blind so getting a clear angle from different views of your own can be crucial. Really think before you act. For the rest, I wish you all the best love and true love forever and have a great day ;)
Wow, Adrienne has really matured and grown. She is sticking up for her opinions and not afraid to say them. I am happy for her! That is what you call GROWTH! Jeannie's wisdom is on another level... I am not liking the new set though. For me, the new set is too bright, white and dull. The lighting is great though. I just missed the old set. Please change that white background. Please let it be more colourful.
My thing is this, my mom never needed our permission to re-marry another man. However, my mom would discuss the idea of getting married again. She gave us a heads up because of the fact this is the person who will be a new member of the family regardless of me being an adult or a child. I agree with Jeannie on this, Adrienne didn't make sense. The reason why is because you married a man with children and they knew about him wanting to marry again. On top of all that some of his children are grown so what is your point? It's not entitlement its respect because truth be told if it was the other way around you would say the child is wrong for not telling their parents they got married.
I’m with Adrienne. As long as the kids/family are informed after the fact then you did your part. Jeanie’s mom took it waaaayyy to far. Stop giving family so much power over you. If the relationship is real then your children would have known the person anyway. They would be able to see that you two have a connection.
my dad was thinking about considering possibly proposing to his girlfriend when i was younger. he randomly brought it up in the car on the way to his house and he told me that whoever he marries will also affect my life. so he made sure i was comfortable with it first. and he still wasn’t sure about it, but once that question popped in his head he made sure to ask me. it’s just a sign of respect and it shows that you care about how i feel about this new addition to the family. i said i was comfortable but he ended up not doing it anyway. putting that aside, if he never asked me and he just one day said “oh we gotta go shopping because i’m getting married next week” i would’ve felt so disrespected and i would’ve felt some resentment towards her even though i liked her originally.
Age doesn't matter. Those are your children. This is their future stepmother. How is that entitled to want to be told? No, they probably don't like her, but regardless if they approve or not, you still at least needs to give a heads up.
I agree with Jeannie. Once one of the kids are an adult, you don’t need to ask for permission, but just let your children know. It’s not just about you and your partner, this person becomes a part of your family. It then involves everyone.
I agree with Adrienne 1000%. I noticed that most kids from America are entitled and think they deserve to knpw everything. Where i come from if i got involved in my parents love life i would be dead. It's so disrespectful.
If my dad or mom wanted to get divorced and remarried, that's their business. I couldnt care less. And the reason is bc we were raised with that "im the parent, youre the child" mentality. It causes a lot of emotional indifference and distance bc there's no obligation to keep anyone included and up to date on their lives. If you're cool with that, then dont tell your kids anything. But dont get upset if they dont care to tell you anything either
I think you check wit the kids if they like your partner, it doesn’t matter if the child is Young or not, because that person is going to influence their life in one way or another.
I agree with Jeannie. I want to know, I want to be comfortable and take it in and the end of the day. I’m living with the women or man you want to marry .
I agree with Jeannie, i think its a sign of respect. Me speaking from the point of having only a mom, (dad passed away) At the end of the day. she is the parent but if her partner wants to be a part of the family then you ask out of common courtesy. It also depends on the family too. If youre close, 9/10 you gonna have that connection and there will be a discussion, either from both of them, just your parent or the person proposing. Either way its just nice to be included. Because speaking from my own family, if i decided to just marry my partner at the age i am (21) my mom would feel hurt from being left out. Shes the one that helps me make decisions and since the passing of my father, she talks to me about decisions shes making as a new single parent. I know all families arent like mine but i think we should stop always looking at age or titles (parent, child) and just have a little sympathy for another person and think what that would do to them if we just did whatever we wanted without including our loved ones.... also keeping in mind that including doesnt mean you get the final say and if i said no i dont want you marrying my mother. They still gonna propose. Its just out of respect to let them know.
If you’re bringing a good person into your life why not tell you family? In my opinion things like that shouldn’t be kept a secret, especially from your kids who most likely lived and were raised by you for 18+ years. That person they’re marrying is going to go to family events, if the family doesn’t like them there must be a reason.
I personally feel that he should have told the kids. Not to get their permission. It's about honesty, it's about teaching them about respect by showing respect. I bet if his kids got engaged without telling him he would be pissed. Not to mention..if they don't like her. He can't say anything about their reaction now because he could have let them know ahead of time so they can process. It's not about permission. It's communication. Plain and simple. Plus he don't care what his kids feel?
By that logic Adrienne he shouldn’t be upset when their boyfriends don’t ask him for his daughter hand in marriage. It’s a respect thing not entitlement. If you’re bringing someone into the mix talk to us. I personally don’t care what my parents do but that’s because I’m not close to them but I can still see how it may be hurtful
Nah Adrienne. This woman is going to be the step mother of your kids. Their approval is everything and if his grown ass kids don’t like her there’s a reason. Also, if you’re not a millennial, stop generalizing our generation. We aren’t all assholes.
I'm sorry guys but every family and every person is different, you can't say someone's feelings about something is wack because that's THEIR feelings. Now I understand the whole "you love them you should be happy for them" part but I do believe that you also should be considerate of those you call FAMILY and let them know about the possibility of a new family member like Jeannie mentioned, it's not asking for permission just a heads up. Maybe they didn't even know of his intention of proposing, I would be a little hurt if I was in that situation, it really wouldn't matter if he was that age and I thirty-something with kids and everything. That's why I say it is different for everyone you can't standardize everything when it comes to emotions. Love you guys! And loving the new season.
Completely Agree with Adrienne. It’s not that you can’t or shouldn’t include your relatives but it’s not a « must ». However it makes the people around more included and invested in what is going on !
Telling your daughters your getting married is not the same as asking for permission. I agree with Jeannie here. I would want to be told if I liked the girl or not I am your daughter and this person will be in my life forever (maybe). Its not being intitled.
I agree with Jennie. How do you think your child or children to develop a relationship with a new person, if you don’t tell them about something so significant in your life?
i also disagree with Tamera, because honestly i have a good relationship with my mother's partner but i was still annoyed at how late my sister and i were told
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I agree with Jeannie on that one. Your kids have every right to know you’re getting married period.
Carisa Peart especially if your living in the same house
Carisa Peart exactly
I agree. My mom's now husband proposed on Christmas and didn't tell all of their kids that was happening. Their kids combined we're 23, 21,20, 17, 10, 8. I am the oldest. Once I got there, my mom basically said " look what I got for Christmas" I was like " oh cool". Then, everyone was pissed at me for not getting back the memo when I wasn't told anything about the proposal. They had only dated for four months by that Christmas and had barely been together a year by their wedding. It ruined all the relationships with my mom's extended family. So now my sister and I don't get to see our uncle. But, now I have to deal with my mom's husband and all his kids at every family occasion.
Kids come first. If ur kid has a legitimate reason for not liking them then u cant marry them and if u do its disrespectful.
I think the whole "you're the child I'm the parent" rationale is a reason behind why kids can be distant from their parents or can lead to a lack of respect. While I don't think you have to explain and 'get permission' you do have to understand that they are coming into the FAMILY not just your individual life. The decisions you make regardless of how old your child is is going to affect them in some way. Making a decision without any type of notice or discussion, especially a big one holds a sense of control and power unnecessarily in this instance. A parent doesn't need to ask permission but ensuring that there will be respect (at the bare minimum) is so important. Parents are raising whole people who will be adults and not just bots who should blindly accept anything they are telling them.
Exactly. As Jeannie said older generation often feel like they deserve respect but respect doesnt need to be transferred back.
Like I am sorry yes you don't need my permission but you are just going to date someone, marry someone and bring them into my life without a heads up and that is okay but as the "child" even in my own home I dare not do that. Madness.
you should be on the real, straight up facts , and you seem very knowledgeable im sure you could be also be sharing that knowledge with the world
Agree 100%
Kianna Charisse totally agree
@Agatha jay i think she's saying when it's life changing moments. Not if "I'm going to go out tonight is that okay with you" situations but rather "I'm bringing someone in your life who will hold the mother figure in your life for possible forever" situation
I agree with Jeannie AS USUAL. lol You need to tell your kids because there is a REASON BOTH DAUGHTERS do not like her. Sometimes I think stupid men don't see how really bad a person is for you.
It is not just men. If your kids dont like their step mom or father, it is a problem parents should acknowledge and address before getting married or proposing. That new person is going to be part of their life too. Giving a heads up to your child is not asking their permissions, it is including them in your own life ( especially if they are still under your roof).
But sometimes its not the kid that dont like the woman its their mother that dont like the new woman and the kids feel bad for their mother. And start hating the new woman too. Ive seen it in real life. Some mothers even make kids hate their own father. So these grown kids need to let their father live his life like he lets them live their own life with different boyfriends and such things.
Book Bag me too. She never once said he needed approval but just to let your children no isn't crazy. They were family first
It’s not just men. Women are that way too. Speaking from experience lol
Preach girl !!
I think when the kids are young then you do have to make the children aware of your future plans. Its not a sense of entitlement, its a sign of respect.
Right. It's a two way street, a lot of parents fail to realize that.
Yes and security and responsibility!! Men can run along marrying without taking care of the last relationship result? But OMG kids should act mature! What a joke
Adrienne way of thinking is the reason why a lot of kids are so distant from their parents.
Dae Louise
She’s saying this bc of what she experienced. When she was younger it never influenced her in a negative way, which is sooo by she’s saying, that if her parents didn’t do it, she’d be fine.
@@purpleorangelamp she was young tho his kids are grown they should know
Her way of thinking is so narrow minded and immature, EVERY child would want to know before tf?
😒Adrienne? What's got into you?? He doesn't need their permission, but he had to let his children know they were getting a step mother!!!!!Ugh
Marina Keza THANK YOUUUU!!
BBBRRRROOOOOOOOOOOO! yo and the fact that she used an example where the father(israel) did tell his kids was the kicker LOL! entitlement!!!????? you step father doesn;t need to tell you ANYTHING, but you FATHER needS to let you know, grown or not!
As someone who is in ablended and family, and my partner also in a blended family, neither of us were told about our parents plans on re marrying. That being said we were grown adults at the time and just want happiness for our parents. He knew his mom had a new partner for a long time had met, we’re basically a family unit, my I knew about my moms new partner we were close. These girls more than likely already knew this woman really well, and it’s really not gunna be that different because they’re older, 17 and 21. I’d see having to sit down and explain it to a child, not grown women . They need to get over themselves, if that’s how they feel it shows they just don’t like her
Chloe Sandrelli It probably isn’t that they don’t like her, it’s that he didn’t tell them about him proposing before hand. You want your child to respect you regardless of age you need to respect them too and what he did was disrespectful. It’s not like he is their uncle or friend, he is their father and that women will be their new step mother. If you don’t understand why that is disrespectful then I don’t know what else to say. He is their father not a stranger or distant relative.
Agatha jay he did it on national tv. That is disrespectful to them no matter what you say. If he did it in front of family that is ok. But he did it on national tv so his DAUGHTERS found out the same time as millions of people around the world. It’s like saying they aren’t that important
Maybe they felt like family should know before the world?
Right? If I found out about one of my parents getting married after millions of other people, that would feel like a slap in the face. A heads up really isn't that hard.
@@lexi219 maybe the should watch the emmys.
I don’t think he really knew...he had just lost his mother and when you lose some one most people evaluate their lives and make life decisions. That what this seemed like to me, he loves her, she makes him happy so he wanted to make her his wife.
At the end of the day those are his KIDS. Their happiness and feelings should be his first priority ALWAYS
Adrienne...that’s their father...bringing a step mom into their life...they should’ve known omg “entitled” my ass 🙄 Also, when did they say their dad needed their permission? A heads up and a conversation about this major change in their lives would have sufficed. God I swear she be jumping to conclusions sometimes 🙄
Adrienne... what??:/ Like they’re not just random people acting like he has some obligation to them, they’re his CHILDREN?? If you’re not obligated to your children then who? Your children should come before any partner. And no one was saying for him to tell them the exact time and place?? But he should have given them a general idea that he was ready to propose.. that’s such a bizarre reaction from Adrienne to me
The entitlement bit had me confused. Sis wildin
Exactly. Like that’s their dad! They have every right to know!
Jasmine Price she’s right tho it’s not the kids decision
BritBrit Nicole who’s saying it is? I said he should have told them. They are a family and therefore it still affects them
Isamari Rodriguez it’s not about them being children or not age wise it’s about them being his children. And he can still make it a surprise while having given them the general idea he was ready to propose which is what I said. You also don’t know their reason or if he’s in the right/ wrong, I’m not making him out to be the bad guy I don’t know anything about him or the situation. I commented on ADRIENNE’S reaction based off the information SHE and we as the viewer were given.
Am I the only one who agrees with Jeannie?
Nope. I agree with her per usual
I agree with her too. It should bother you that your kids dont like their future step mother and as a parent leaving them to find out big decisions about them which you know they wont take well is quite selfish and disrespectful. Some parents dont value their kids opinions and input in regards to their private life tho which is baffling.
Jeannie made perfect sense. People need to stop acting like who they marry won't have an impact on anyone else but themselves. You do that, then wonder why no one in the family likes your new spouse. Well, in some cases, had you done your job and informed your family that things were about to change, they could have prepared for it. Don't think that because you are in love you get to dismiss everyone else's feelings.
No i agree with her too.
I agree with her too
Nah!! if the kids are getting a step mom, let them *know* in advance. what? you think the marriage only affects the Dad and not the Children? let them Know!!!!
Always blaming us teens😒 and our generation...
Its Jules those girls are holding the blame here. It’s their dads special moment and they’re throwing shade. That’s selfish and rude. And unfortunately I do think most millennials do act that wat
Its Jules old people jealousy show
Chloe Sandrelli you do understand millennialis are mid twenties early thirties right.... people feel the need to blame an entire generation when the real millennials are the parents😂 smh The statistics still apply just not for us so it’s an invalid argument
Yet they were the one who we were looking up to.
Your generation is trash.
I don't know if this is a culture thing but I don't see a 17 or 21 year old as being a full grown adult. They still need and want the love, support and reassurance of their parents.
I was thinking the same thing. At least not 17 year old.
Dang Adrienne! Can Jeannie be an individual and be allowed to feel how she wants to feel? I mean, that's going to be the person's new parent. I would for sure want to know before they proposed. I don't think you should try to stop your parent's happiness, but a heads up would be nice.
Completely agree with you
i dont think its entitlement. i think it's a sense of respect?
my best friend went through this and i think it just kinda felt like a slap in the face like oh okay. maybe they wanted to be apart of it too?
missbrittneyann I feel like at age 17 and 21, as this has happened to me, it doesn’t matter if you want to be apart of it, that’s not a the child’s choice, nor is it their place to say what they want that’s their dads choice, it’s his love, it’s his heart, and if he wanted to keep it a surprise then they need to respect that, they’re grown
missbrittneyann Exactly! The same situation happened to me. My Dad did not tell me that he and my Stepmom were getting married. I felt left out and it hurt. It’s all good now, but at the time I felt like I missed out on such a special moment.
It's like you don't even matter!!
Jeannie's situation is quite different though. Those girls didn't know about their father proposing and she had no idea her mom was already married for three years! Also, she seemed quite emotional here I think mama Mai's decision really bothered her :(
fatimaa she didn't know her mom got engaged nor married so she was left in th dark lol
did mama Mai get remarried?
never mind...i should kept watching the clip first!
Honestly, that makes me wonder about Mama Mai. Jeannie tells stories sometimes that make her sound pretty disrespectful, but I always shake it off with the thought that I don't know all of the details, but hiding a marriage from your kids for three years is a whole different level of disrespectful. And clearly Jeannie is still upset about it a year later.
I can relate to Jeannie, my dad did the same thing, but I heard from other people he has a new wife, but my dad didn't tell me till 4 years after the marriage. It's like if your daughter/son was gonna get married or proposed to, you'd like to know at least 🤷🏽♀️
Clearly Adrienne doesn't have kids. Idk if I'm hating but Adrienne can come off as very naive and ignorant at times
The fact that Adrienne has stepchildren of her own now makes her comments here more baffling. Maybe if Israel's children weren't on board with their marriage she could understand better.
Adrienne can be a dumbass at times I swear smh 🤦🏻♀️
You're not hating you're telling the truth
golidoll you’re talking like you know her. I completely understand your opinion but you need to understand hers and let her have it. Just because someone has a different opinion than yours doesn’t make that “uneducated” she just has different experiences..
Nah, you're right.
Maybe he should’ve asked his kids how they feel about her before they did this
CallMeCairo Yes!!!!
Truth !!!!!! I am in the same position
Isamari Rodriguez No, they don’t. My personal opinion is kids over everything If both your kids aren’t feeling this girl maybe there’s a reason for it. Maybe it’s a sign.
Isamari Rodriguez But they may not like her. And will most likely not respect her and spend more time with their birth mom.
Dang
Mama Mai what the hell lol
I'm starting to wonder if Mama Mai and Jeanie are even close. They may spend a lot of time together but that means nothing if she can get a boob job (and lose her nipples in the process) and get married without Jeanie knowing. Its very strange.
@@omphilemoerane2569 I think Jeannie is trying too hard to win her love because she's mentioned before that her mom told her that she loves her brother(s) more so I think that's it but I have a feeling in general that it's not a very healthy relationship between them
Ave Pi right?
I know it’s not that deep. But every video I watch, Adrienne says something that is absolutely annoying.
Jennifer R Bra! its like she does it on purpose. Its really starting to get out of hand now :(
Betsy Carolyn they all give their opinions she’s not on the show by herself 🙄
BritBrit Nicole it’s her delivery... it can be so annoying
Miroku Hyun 🤷🏾♀️ when you have more than one personality on a show they’re not gonna react the same
Right
I wonder if Adrienne know people are not going to react the same way as she does in situations and that's okay and therefore should not feel the need to bash their character because it differs to how she would have reacted. How is wanting to know such a huge part of your parent's life (not a stranger but parent) someone,who will not just be in their life but yours too being entitled?. Of course he should not ask for permission but it would be a decent thing to communicate about the situation. (That's if the girls didn't know about her or the engagement.)
Musa Gugu of course she knows that
I feel like adrienne feels like her opinions are always correct and anyone who doesnt agree with her she undermines.lol. personally i think permenantly bringing a new person is a big deal and should be discussed with your children regardless of age as they will be seeing one another regularly and they are becoming apart of your family. Its just a sign of respect and letting your kids know you value them knowing the littke details of your life.
Exactly, Adriennes always personalises every situation and is not great at being objective. She's always been my least favourite, even before Tamar left.
But she’s right when she said they’ve should not said that publicly.it’s disrespectful and shady AF
Jonathan G that’s what the show is about using their own experiences
Even though Adrienne is in her 30’s, I think she is still immature and has a lot of growing up to do!
I don’t care if I’m 13 or 30. You better believe you need to tell me as my parents that you are getting married, ‘cause I’m sorry that’s not me being entitled, that’s me wanting to know about someone who could potentially be my step dad or step mum. But also that you want them to be part of my family too. There’s so much more to it then just being ‘entitled’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄
ALSO ADRIENNE... Just cause you don’t care if you’re parents don’t tell you about whether they got married or not, doesn’t mean everyone else thinks that and you shouldn’t think someone is being entitled because they feel like they should’ve been told 🙄🙄🙄
Side note: Stop blaming everything on being ‘millennials’ and being of the younger generation. There are things that older people do that irk me but I don’t blame the entire generation for it. That’s just stupid. We’re smarter than you think ☺️🙄
Vintage Aztec thank you! Also, who’s going to break it to Adrienne that she’s a millennial? 1980s -early 2000s boo
So did Adrienne feel the need to tell israels children they were getting married, or could they have been left out of knowing?
zippity dooda exactly lol.
With little kids who are still living at home and whom u both intend to discipline or direct, yes talk to them first about a new family member- with adult children, it's respectful but not a must to tell them! If am going to call u dad or mom i need to know about it a head of time
She says grown kids
@@desiretesi1723 yea and israels kids are grown. He was married to his first for a little over 20 years, hes 47 years old, and his eldest has a son. Since apparently you dont have to check with grown children I'm asking would Adrienne have liked to just marry him without talking to them first? Remember, his oldest has a whole child right now and they were only married 2 years ago. She needs to think before she speaks. Ugh.
zippity dooda Adrienne implies that Israel told his children he was going to propose to her at 1:34. Adrienne doesn't have to tell the kids, she's not related to them. As the father Israel has an obligation to inform his kids of important life decisions
Adrienne thinks its entitlement and him asking for permission but its not about asking permission from ur children but telling them because they arent going anywhere and no matter how old the children are they should know, because like jeannie said they are becoming a part of the family
I love Adrienne but it kind of hurt when she said that our generation has a problem with entitlement. I’m 15 years old and my dad got married without telling me... It really hurt my feelings also I’ve only known her for a month...
I agree with Jeannie on this one. I mean if you have kids, at least let them know that you're gonna propose. No one's asking for an approval, but it's respectful. I know I wouldn't like that!
OMG can Jeannie just get her own show already?! If I needed solid advice from any of these 4 about any & everything, it'd be Jeannie - she's so wise & could do without the others not always talking over her all the damn time! Ugh so annoying esp. when I'm really feeling Jeannie's advice/opinion/insight! Love you Jeannie!!
One of his daughters is still a teenager and the other is just getting her wings. Yes I think he could've given them a heads up. I'm sure he would want the same respect if his daughter's guys were planning on proposing to them.
I actually think there’s something wrong with people from ‘back in the day’. how can you not tell your children you’re planning to marry someone. They can disagree but at least they know! I don’t agree with the fact the daughters made the issue public but I can understand why they’re upset. I’m surprised Jennie is the only one who spoke the truth.
If I’m your child and I’m living in the house with this person that you are moving now into the house I should know. That’s weird that I wouldn’t know.
I feel like they wouldn’t feel this way if it was reversed if it was a mom that randomnly got proposed to and the man is the one uprooting everyone’s life
I agree
That's what happened to me and they the older parents just wanted me to go with the flow. Truth was I was super uncomfortable with someone so new coming in to my home and life just expecting me to be like okay this is how it's going to be and just go along with it. I'm older now but still felt hurt that I wasn't talked to about it.
If it was a woman who was proposed to and moved a man in without warning she would be mommy shamed. It is not entitlement, it’s respect and while mothers can’t get away with not having that mutual respect with their children, Men, in this case, do. Seventeen and twenty one are not that old. Yes, you are obligated to tell your teenager that another woman is entering your life, even at twenty one. And they can go around blaming millennials but I myself am seventeen and I am Gen Z, they are blaming their own generation and with simple knowledge they would know that.
Tia I When my now husband and I were planning to marry, we took our kids ages 19-11 out to a nice family pizza restaurant. We sat down as a family and talked about how we’re not going to disrupt his 2 who were in high school ( out of town) we made sure they graduated with their class and friends. Then after we moved them in. They were all very happy for us and the kids got along SO incredibly well. My son got an older brother and his daughter gained 2 sisters🥰 Now, three are in college( the oldest graduates from UCLA in June) and my son is the youngest, a sophomore in hs. We have a very blended multi cultural family. But, the love and support is real🙌💯 We even coparent with my ex and his wife 😃 it just works!♥️
Adrienne just made herself look crazy just now
I think it’s definitely something you should at least talk to your immediate family about.. of course they won’t decide for you but I think it’s nice to have that discussion. This is someone you will want your children to respect and now it can seem like your pulling one over on them. I don’t know.
Exactly
ßrandon I don’t think their needs to be a discussion, because it’s not up to them, his dads heart and love does not concern them especially since they’re both adults and not much is going to be changing for them. They don’t need to build a connection with his wife the way a young child would need to. That’s my opinion as someone who has lived through this exact situation
Chloe Sandrelli Yes, I stated that they can’t decide for him.. but the youngest is 17 and she is most likely still in the household. To not at least talk about it beforehand seems a little bizarre.
Honestly I feel like its really disrespectful to not ask your children spec if they live at home and the new partner is going to move in sooner or later. If my children did not like my partner I would not marry that person. Kids should always come first not some wack girlfriend that your kids dont even like that is probably going to leave you in a few years for a richer man anyway. Also adrienne you are almost 40 imagne at 17 just waking up one day and finding out that your mom is going to marry a man that you dont like and cant see as a parentfigure. I would be hella pissed and disapointed.
My dad asked me when I was 14 if it was okay to marry this girl he was dating. He didn’t have to do that but it’s a sign of love and respect for me. It’s a big deal bringing a new person into the family.
Yes jeannies..i agree with you 💯
It's not about getting the kids approval...it's about showing them that you care 👌👌👌
I agree with Jeannie. Telling the kids about the proposal suggests not only that he is ready to be with their mother but that hes also ready to become a step dad and take on the role of protecting,loving and helping them throughout their life. Its not only a change for the woman but also a big change in the life of her kids because now you have to get used to this change no matter how "grown" you are.The new step dad might have a different mindset,values,dreams,expectations,different plans for the family etc. Its important for them to know that he wants to be with their mother just as much as he wants to be their stepdad as some teenagers fear of being neglected or lonely because theres not always a strong bond between the step dad and the kids. Telling the teenagers beforehand is a symbol of respect and makes them feel more included and important. Also, it can help to strengthen the kids trust and bond with their new step dad which leads to a positive,loving family :)
I like that the ladies are DISAGREEING with each other, just be respectful and do NOT cut each other off. Loni was rude AF to Adrienne yesterday. And Tamera and Jeannie usually never beef over topics.
Yeah, it looked like Tamera wanted to cry
They were probably just having an off day. It happens.
Tamera was so rude today. I felt uncomfortable for Jeannie.
These ladies are human like anybody else they will make mistakes and misjudge situations. Tamera has apologised on Instagram for how she addressed the topic and I personally think the true sign of maturity and growth between friends is when you disagree but still holds hands while you laugh and smile later!
Adele Smith Really? What post is it under?
Absolutely you include the kids i don't care what age they are. If my dad who has been widowed since 2016 were to get married again i would want to know if he was planning on proposing just because i feel it would be respectful to at least let even your grown children know what your plans are
Absolutely, I think its so disrespectful to not consider telling those closest to you. To find out your Mum got married & you didn't know is hurtful & inconsiderate.
it has NOTHING to do with entitlement, it has everything to with the parent and child relationship. It's respect, as your child I would like to know that you're getting married because at the end of the day you are still my parent. Imagine not knowing such a big thing about your mother or father, that is such a disconnect.
really feeling this new hair on adrienne.. girl can pull off anything
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I was just saying this! ❤❤
ReginaaaLoveee yeah I think it’s a wig but the colors cute
wasnt feeling it at first
It’s a wig
To me it's not really entitlement and it really has nothing to do with "this generation" it's something so important and special I would feel some type of way if it wasn't shared with me idk lol .. Adrienne poppin off this season 😅
Angie Reveles this has happened to me, I was the same age, 17. And I was just really happy for my mom, and the only thing that changed for me was a title. I feel at age 17 and CERTAINLY age 21 they should be able to separate their dads love and heart from their own personal needs what they said was entitled they felt like they automatically get the right to know.
Hell yeah the family always needs to know if you’re going to purpose
Isamari Rodriguez That depends on your situation and which family members. If you have kids living with you it’s odd to not let them know you’re bringing someone else into the family. Especially if that person will be a parental figure in their life.
No offense, but you spelled PURPOSE not PROPOSE. Maybe it was your autocorrect or perhaps you were typing too quickly.
Tamera is so Beautiful
Of course my family should know
After Adrienne explained her thought process I can understand her point, BUT I would still want a heads up if I were getting a new step parent regardless of how old I am.
Even if the kids don’t like her, out of respect for them being his children (they were there before his fiancée came), they had a right to know. If he were to have heard their opinions and still proposed that’s a different story.
Did anybody catch Tameras side eye at adrienne when she cut her off. @1:24-1:27 I feel like something changed with tameras attitude this season, but we'll see.
kat civil no side eye - she just shut up 🤐
Right it's so noticeable I hope this is just her having a bad day & not her "new" personality since turning 40
kat civil instigating
Noticed that tooo
Yeah Adrienne was so rude interrupting Tamera. Adrienne is so loud and inconsiderate this season. Let someone else speak goodness gracious🙄
Sorry Adrienne thats not entitlement its respect. Its important to tell you family because if things fall apart or the woman is gold digger or just not a good person its your family that will be there for you. Also sometimes love is blind and sometimes your family can see negative characteristics that you don't see. Im in my thirties ad if my parents are gonna remarry i have to know the person and know that they intend to marry them and i will be giving them my opinion on it positive or negative and if i dont like their new partner i will not be at the wedding.
I agree with Jeannie. The is a whole new person that is coming into your life. Even if your kids are grown you should tell them. It's not like you are going to separate your life and not talk about that other person or not have them around.
I think when you have children especially ones that are still in the house that’s a conversation that needs to be had ... but I agree with the ladies I think had his daughters truly liked her it would have been a surprise to them ... a happy surprise and it suck that they made the statement right after his big moment
Agree with Jeannie on this one. These kids have every right to know that Information but in the end they still should’ve never publicly said what they said.
I agree with Jeannie. Adrienne got in her feels on this one.
Grown or not grown, if you think that you can’t give your kids a heads up....that love isn’t real.
My step dad asked me and my sister's how we would feel about him asking our mum , it was really sweet.
I think he should have given them a heads up, not to get their approval or anything like that, but to just as curtesy to keep them in the loop.
I think this differs with every family situation. For myself my father passed when I was 9 and my little sister was 3. My mom just got remarried when I was 22 and my sister 16, yes we were both older but it was huge for my mom not only to date someone but to get married. She sat us both down and just told us they wanted to get married and were going to do so privately just between them. Both my sister and I love our step dad he treats our mom so wonderful. I felt it was the right thing to do telling us they were getting married, as it’s only been the 3 of us and the only man we’ve ever had in our lives was our father. Also because we are her kids and are now welcoming someone into our lives that will fill our fathers position for the rest of our lives. In no way was she ever obligated to ask permission to live her life and love who she wants, but just letting us know the situation before hand so we would have no reason to feel some type away about either of them.
So beautifully and eloquently put. I'm sorry for your dad's passing. God bless.
Tatianna Daniel Thank you very much, greatly appreciated ♥️
I'm with Jeannie on this one! I would like to know what you're thinking of doing. Even if you don't care about my opinion it would be nice to know what's going on in our family!
Feeling badly for Jeanie. Lost respect for her Mom. That's messed up - not telling your children (even if they are grown) that you're married!?!? Who does that?
But Jeanie is always spitting sense😂😂
I love Jeannie. She reminds me of someone I could just talk to about everything and she always has such sophisticated input. But I can tell that she’s been through some things in her childhood, that’s why she’s so adamant on not wanting children, I think. I felt the same way and now I’m pregnant with my first, lol.
Mama Mai is so gangster. Lol. If I was the child I would want to know. I wouldn't want to see a ring on her finger and not know they were even going there... but it is grown folks business so just be happy you found out before the wedding!
Patrice “I wouldn’t want to see a ring on her finger and not know they were going there” I just feel like at age 17 and 21 you’re capable of understanding where a serious relationship might be going. imo they don’t need to know, nor should they feel they automatically have to know. To me that is selfish and taking away his moment
I agree with Jeanie. Especially if they’re younger kids. A conversation definitely needs to be had when a new parent is going to be in a child’s life.
For me, if you have kids you should tell them and give them a heads up. No matter how old they are. If they aren't pleased with it, then be the parent and figure out why, find out the underlying or obvious reason. Have a conversation, maybe you think she/he is the one but your children have a bad feeling. When you're married and it's not working out, I guess you don't want your children to tell you "I told you so" and give you a lecture.
But when you don't have children, you don't have to tell or ask permission from anyone, not even your parents. It's about your overall happiness not your parents their partial happiness. Just make sure you are absolutely sure you're marrying the right one. Don't rush it but place yourself as an outsider and look at your relationship. Sometimes love can be blind so getting a clear angle from different views of your own can be crucial. Really think before you act.
For the rest, I wish you all the best love and true love forever and have a great day ;)
Wow, Adrienne has really matured and grown. She is sticking up for her opinions and not afraid to say them. I am happy for her! That is what you call GROWTH! Jeannie's wisdom is on another level... I am not liking the new set though. For me, the new set is too bright, white and dull. The lighting is great though. I just missed the old set. Please change that white background. Please let it be more colourful.
Miss Trinidad and Tobago - and people hate it 🤷🏾♀️ oh well
Adrienne, i'm not feeling the wig. You need one that looks more real.
Book Bag hmmm I love it - work on her
It's a nice wig, but she needs to fix the part
I just noticed your comment was on on the clapback hit reply episodes 🤣
I love Jeanie. She just gets it.
I agree with jeannie. The children should absolutely know if their parent is getting married.
Adrienne hair looks a mess. Don’t @ me
Yessss its flat and the color not for her !
It gives me Jlo vibe On The 6 era except hers look like a bad wig.
My thing is this, my mom never needed our permission to re-marry another man. However, my mom would discuss the idea of getting married again. She gave us a heads up because of the fact this is the person who will be a new member of the family regardless of me being an adult or a child. I agree with Jeannie on this, Adrienne didn't make sense. The reason why is because you married a man with children and they knew about him wanting to marry again. On top of all that some of his children are grown so what is your point? It's not entitlement its respect because truth be told if it was the other way around you would say the child is wrong for not telling their parents they got married.
I’m with Adrienne. As long as the kids/family are informed after the fact then you did your part. Jeanie’s mom took it waaaayyy to far. Stop giving family so much power over you. If the relationship is real then your children would have known the person anyway. They would be able to see that you two have a connection.
my dad was thinking about considering possibly proposing to his girlfriend when i was younger. he randomly brought it up in the car on the way to his house and he told me that whoever he marries will also affect my life. so he made sure i was comfortable with it first. and he still wasn’t sure about it, but once that question popped in his head he made sure to ask me. it’s just a sign of respect and it shows that you care about how i feel about this new addition to the family. i said i was comfortable but he ended up not doing it anyway. putting that aside, if he never asked me and he just one day said “oh we gotta go shopping because i’m getting married next week” i would’ve felt so disrespected and i would’ve felt some resentment towards her even though i liked her originally.
Age doesn't matter. Those are your children. This is their future stepmother. How is that entitled to want to be told? No, they probably don't like her, but regardless if they approve or not, you still at least needs to give a heads up.
I agree with Jeannie. Once one of the kids are an adult, you don’t need to ask for permission, but just let your children know. It’s not just about you and your partner, this person becomes a part of your family. It then involves everyone.
I agree with Jeannie. You can treat your children as humans. They’re your family. It won’t hurt you to treat them as such.
If my parents ever remarried, they would definitely give me a heads up. I would be pissed if they didn’t. It’s a thing called respect .
I agree with Adrienne 1000%. I noticed that most kids from America are entitled and think they deserve to knpw everything. Where i come from if i got involved in my parents love life i would be dead. It's so disrespectful.
If my dad or mom wanted to get divorced and remarried, that's their business. I couldnt care less. And the reason is bc we were raised with that "im the parent, youre the child" mentality. It causes a lot of emotional indifference and distance bc there's no obligation to keep anyone included and up to date on their lives. If you're cool with that, then dont tell your kids anything. But dont get upset if they dont care to tell you anything either
He doesnt need to get permission but at least give them a heads up.
Loving this hair colour on Adrienne 😍😍😍
I think you check wit the kids if they like your partner, it doesn’t matter if the child is Young or not, because that person is going to influence their life in one way or another.
The ladies are GLOWING!!!!
This must have hit a chord for Adrienne....
It’s called RESPECT WHEN YOU HAVE SENIORITY OVER SOME WOMEN YOUR DADS DATING YOU DESERVE THAT RESPECT.
Tamera has some good points. Especially at the very end.
I agree with Jeannie. I want to know, I want to be comfortable and take it in and the end of the day. I’m living with the women or man you want to marry .
I agree with Jeannie, i think its a sign of respect. Me speaking from the point of having only a mom, (dad passed away) At the end of the day. she is the parent but if her partner wants to be a part of the family then you ask out of common courtesy. It also depends on the family too. If youre close, 9/10 you gonna have that connection and there will be a discussion, either from both of them, just your parent or the person proposing. Either way its just nice to be included. Because speaking from my own family, if i decided to just marry my partner at the age i am (21) my mom would feel hurt from being left out. Shes the one that helps me make decisions and since the passing of my father, she talks to me about decisions shes making as a new single parent. I know all families arent like mine but i think we should stop always looking at age or titles (parent, child) and just have a little sympathy for another person and think what that would do to them if we just did whatever we wanted without including our loved ones.... also keeping in mind that including doesnt mean you get the final say and if i said no i dont want you marrying my mother. They still gonna propose. Its just out of respect to let them know.
Lonnie got me on the FLOOR 😂
If you’re bringing a good person into your life why not tell you family? In my opinion things like that shouldn’t be kept a secret, especially from your kids who most likely lived and were raised by you for 18+ years. That person they’re marrying is going to go to family events, if the family doesn’t like them there must be a reason.
I personally feel that he should have told the kids. Not to get their permission. It's about honesty, it's about teaching them about respect by showing respect. I bet if his kids got engaged without telling him he would be pissed. Not to mention..if they don't like her. He can't say anything about their reaction now because he could have let them know ahead of time so they can process. It's not about permission. It's communication. Plain and simple. Plus he don't care what his kids feel?
i love how everyone at the table has different opinions now, it makes the chat more fun to watch.
By that logic Adrienne he shouldn’t be upset when their boyfriends don’t ask him for his daughter hand in marriage. It’s a respect thing not entitlement. If you’re bringing someone into the mix talk to us. I personally don’t care what my parents do but that’s because I’m not close to them but I can still see how it may be hurtful
Adrienne is ridiculous yet again.. that woman is gonna be like a mother figure to his kids.. they deserve to know about it beforehand #TeamJeannie
Nah Adrienne. This woman is going to be the step mother of your kids. Their approval is everything and if his grown ass kids don’t like her there’s a reason. Also, if you’re not a millennial, stop generalizing our generation. We aren’t all assholes.
I'm sorry guys but every family and every person is different, you can't say someone's feelings about something is wack because that's THEIR feelings. Now I understand the whole "you love them you should be happy for them" part but I do believe that you also should be considerate of those you call FAMILY and let them know about the possibility of a new family member like Jeannie mentioned, it's not asking for permission just a heads up. Maybe they didn't even know of his intention of proposing, I would be a little hurt if I was in that situation, it really wouldn't matter if he was that age and I thirty-something with kids and everything. That's why I say it is different for everyone you can't standardize everything when it comes to emotions. Love you guys! And loving the new season.
Adrienne always feels like shes right so it’s hard to talk to her. I agree with Jeannie per usual
yes she does her attitude changed a little
Completely Agree with Adrienne. It’s not that you can’t or shouldn’t include your relatives but it’s not a « must ». However it makes the people around more included and invested in what is going on !
Telling your daughters your getting married is not the same as asking for permission. I agree with Jeannie here. I would want to be told if I liked the girl or not I am your daughter and this person will be in my life forever (maybe). Its not being intitled.
I agree with Jennie. How do you think your child or children to develop a relationship with a new person, if you don’t tell them about something so significant in your life?
i also disagree with Tamera, because honestly i have a good relationship with my mother's partner but i was still annoyed at how late my sister and i were told
“They don’t like that bitch”
One more time Loni saying what I was thinking 😂😂😂😂
Keep it real girl