OLED has a much much lower pixel persistence time than LCD, so it both suffered from scrolling more at lower refresh rates, and benefits far more from higher refresh rates. As you noted the iPad Pro still blurs up the text while scrolling, while the fast OLED + fast refresh rate make the text far clearer.
People who can’t see the difference are like color blind people who can’t appreciate wide color gamut. It’s real…and spectacular. My iPad Pro ruined my iPhone. But I finally have an iPhone with just as good a screen.
Should've gotten an older Android phone with 120hz. I've had my OnePlus 8T for a year now and it's the best phone ever. Just my opinion though. You do you and don't let anyone stop you from doing what you want.
I don’t want apple to decide when I get 120 hz. Is it possible to turn the dynamic or 12 range or whatever OFF so it’s always 120hz? I don’t mind if it takes up battery.
Where it has 12 refresh rates to choose from, up from the iPad Pro's 5, I take it it's still not doing the full scale adaptive refresh where if a frame is slightly late, it can just change the display's refresh rate to match it rather than waiting for another full cycle among its 12 modes? I.e full adaptive sync with arbitrary in-between refresh rates
What you are talking is just a variable refresh rate - it's ok for games, but for scrolling you will see judder if frame is presented at time that is different from intended presentation time. You can't just put a frame on glass later, each frame is produced with a specific target timestamp.
@@wondermice Yes, but in the case a frame misses a fixed refresh rate cycle, it's better for the screen to adapt to it and refresh when the frame is ready rather than waiting another full refresh cycle.
Sounds great. In theory but you could tell the second it changes from 120 to 80 to 60. There’s a small glitch and once you notice it it drives you insane and this is on my 14 promax
When it goes from 120 to 80 and then to 60, almost when the scroll ends .. it seems as if the screen vibrates or moves, when you deactivate the ProMotion, that feeling disappears
Hi, I have a question. Does iPhone ProMotion smoothing, and artificially adding frames to a video with a low frame rate so that it has a higher frame rate and gives it that smooth effect?
As an iPad Pro user I can tell you, you don’t really feel the difference when you don’t have a 60 hz device next to it. But you really miss it when it is disabled or use another iPad.
It’s actually a night and day difference. After having a 12pro for a year and now having the 13 pro for a few weeks i cant imagine ever going back to 60 htz. It’s that good
That’s because promotion only slightly increases the refresh rate when you are doing standard things and some apps don’t even support it. You can only get the 120HZ when you scroll super fast. Most of the time your screen is not refreshing at 120HZ, it usually refreshes just barely above 60HZ, often hitting 90HZ at max. I have the 13 PM too, we got shafted sadly. Hopefully in another 3 years Apple will finally develop functioning 120HZ screens for iPhones.
@@relsson Yes it still is the same. Even on the new 14 Pro it’s still the same. Even their new 1 HZ feature (refreshing only with 1 HZ when the screen is idle) only works on always on screen and nothing else?, making it largely useless as for everything else the 10 HZ minimum refresh rate remains. We are years behind Samsung when it comes to screens.
It tops out at 80hz for any fast scrolling and goes to 120Hz for slow scrolling and in a few places like the home screen, app library, opening/closing app animations, splash screens. Doesn't save as much battery as it could and it gets dwarfed by any Android with dynamic/fixed 120Hz.
Out of all the benefits I've seen mentioned about the new adaptive displays, I think the main one I'd really be able to take advantage of daily is the power management. I don't spend a lot of time reading, or scrolling on my phone, sometimes I watch video on the phone, but a lot of time I use the phone to cast to the TV. I'll have to wait until next year to upgrade though at the earliest, as I upgraded the end of 2020 to the 12 Pro Max from a 7 Plus. That's one of the things I like about the iPhone, it's gotten to the point, that even I didn't do my upgrades through my carrier which requires me to pay it off over two years, I still wouldn't need to upgrade every year to have something I need right then. A majority of what I need has been in place for years already.
Oh my god turn that music track off.. Why do you need a continuously playing audio track? That was so annoying. Plus, it distracted from the good quality content.
Coming from a BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K(240hz monitor with the best motion clarity in the market) I do genuine believe that high refresh rate in smartphones are almost useless for everyday tasks, cool feature at first glance (especially if you are a motion enthusiast) but after that I’d suggest to turn it off and stick to standard refresh rate (60hz), battery efficiency over cool animation to me.
Yeah I agree, but I find having 120hz on with my android phones or iPhone, it feels much better and my battery still doesn't even come close to dying in a day.
Just got my Wife the 256g 13 Pro. Time for her to put down that 256g iPhone 8+.. I'm gonna wait for the 14 or next Note. My 2yr old Note 10+ is still an All Day Device & then some. I don't care for Camera's or Refresh Rates on my phone's. 🤟 Great info..
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t notice the difference between 60 and 120hz. I’m not reading the text I’m trying to scroll past why do I care if it’s blurry
You’re not the only one. From various sources I’ve seen, most people can’t tell the difference. I can’t see a whit of difference live and I’ve had an iPad Pro from the very first one, so I’ve been unable to notice fast refresh for years, even though I know what to look for.
@Garoosh People pay to much attention to refresh rates or specs in general. Seriously, a 120 refresh rate means nothing to someone who knows it only goes UP to 120 per second. It’s basically a marketing term
You guys must be blind because there is a huge difference. I have a 12 pro max and an iPad Pro and the iPad Pro is so much smoother and way more responsive. It’s a pain when I have to use 60hz because it looks and feels laggy, unresponsive, sluggish and choppy
@Kamie Ibrahim And you con say the exact same thing as 30 vs 60 or of any refresh rate. Point is yea 60FPS is better than 30 but unless the refresh rate is higher than the native game FPS, you won’t notice anything 60FPS can still feel like 30FPS and vice verse
Apple fail: so many channels are trying to explain what ProMotion is...shouldnt it be obviously if its such a requested feature or is it that most of us (99.999%) wouldn't notice or care less...
I wouldn’t say it’s a waste, more like apple is fucking retarded and late to the party like always lol I love my iPhone 13 Pro Max but they should’ve done this a long time ago among many others things like type c chargers
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1:22; can she cover herself up?
I think it makes the most difference in text scrolling
It makes a difference all over iOS. But Apple won’t give you 120HTZ if you did things like slowly scroll through photos on the photos app.
OLED has a much much lower pixel persistence time than LCD, so it both suffered from scrolling more at lower refresh rates, and benefits far more from higher refresh rates. As you noted the iPad Pro still blurs up the text while scrolling, while the fast OLED + fast refresh rate make the text far clearer.
The battery life on my 13 pro max is out of this world
Please tell me the name of the game show in apple trailer at 2:57
catalyst black
People who can’t see the difference are like color blind people who can’t appreciate wide color gamut. It’s real…and spectacular. My iPad Pro ruined my iPhone. But I finally have an iPhone with just as good a screen.
Should've gotten an older Android phone with 120hz. I've had my OnePlus 8T for a year now and it's the best phone ever. Just my opinion though. You do you and don't let anyone stop you from doing what you want.
I don’t want apple to decide when I get 120 hz. Is it possible to turn the dynamic or 12 range or whatever OFF so it’s always 120hz? I don’t mind if it takes up battery.
U can do that only in android
Will iPad Pro ever get OLED?
I will be considering it with a trade in of my iPhone 11 Pro Max.
Where it has 12 refresh rates to choose from, up from the iPad Pro's 5, I take it it's still not doing the full scale adaptive refresh where if a frame is slightly late, it can just change the display's refresh rate to match it rather than waiting for another full cycle among its 12 modes? I.e full adaptive sync with arbitrary in-between refresh rates
What you are talking is just a variable refresh rate - it's ok for games, but for scrolling you will see judder if frame is presented at time that is different from intended presentation time. You can't just put a frame on glass later, each frame is produced with a specific target timestamp.
@@wondermice Yes, but in the case a frame misses a fixed refresh rate cycle, it's better for the screen to adapt to it and refresh when the frame is ready rather than waiting another full refresh cycle.
Sounds great. In theory but you could tell the second it changes from 120 to 80 to 60. There’s a small glitch and once you notice it it drives you insane and this is on my 14 promax
True (iPhone 14 Pro user)
When it goes from 120 to 80 and then to 60, almost when the scroll ends .. it seems as if the screen vibrates or moves, when you deactivate the ProMotion, that feeling disappears
@@modymotorola2050x2
Hi, I have a question. Does iPhone ProMotion smoothing, and artificially adding frames to a video with a low frame rate so that it has a higher frame rate and gives it that smooth effect?
no
No and that technology is not present even in any modern electronics but it’s being tested similarly in things like NVIDIA DLSS and AMD FSR
I’ve never used an 120hz screen I’d be interested to see how much it improves the experience
As an iPad Pro user I can tell you, you don’t really feel the difference when you don’t have a 60 hz device next to it. But you really miss it when it is disabled or use another iPad.
It’s actually a night and day difference. After having a 12pro for a year and now having the 13 pro for a few weeks i cant imagine ever going back to 60 htz. It’s that good
It’s buttery Smooth you’ll notice the difference and will have a hard time going back
@Pablo Brazon Fr turning on low power mode or using friends iphone 12 or older feels a lil laggy now no joke
It's a very big difference, when you get used to 120hz and then you go back to 60hz just to see the difference, let me tell you, it will look choppy.
I have the 13 pro max and it’s on 120hz but it doesn’t feel like it can anyone help me?
That’s because promotion only slightly increases the refresh rate when you are doing standard things and some apps don’t even support it. You can only get the 120HZ when you scroll super fast. Most of the time your screen is not refreshing at 120HZ, it usually refreshes just barely above 60HZ, often hitting 90HZ at max. I have the 13 PM too, we got shafted sadly. Hopefully in another 3 years Apple will finally develop functioning 120HZ screens for iPhones.
@@relsson Yes it still is the same. Even on the new 14 Pro it’s still the same. Even their new 1 HZ feature (refreshing only with 1 HZ when the screen is idle) only works on always on screen and nothing else?, making it largely useless as for everything else the 10 HZ minimum refresh rate remains. We are years behind Samsung when it comes to screens.
@@mystictomato9466 tower of fantasy game supports up to 120hz on my iPhone 13 Pro and it feels super super smooth.
It tops out at 80hz for any fast scrolling and goes to 120Hz for slow scrolling and in a few places like the home screen, app library, opening/closing app animations, splash screens. Doesn't save as much battery as it could and it gets dwarfed by any Android with dynamic/fixed 120Hz.
Out of all the benefits I've seen mentioned about the new adaptive displays, I think the main one I'd really be able to take advantage of daily is the power management. I don't spend a lot of time reading, or scrolling on my phone, sometimes I watch video on the phone, but a lot of time I use the phone to cast to the TV. I'll have to wait until next year to upgrade though at the earliest, as I upgraded the end of 2020 to the 12 Pro Max from a 7 Plus. That's one of the things I like about the iPhone, it's gotten to the point, that even I didn't do my upgrades through my carrier which requires me to pay it off over two years, I still wouldn't need to upgrade every year to have something I need right then. A majority of what I need has been in place for years already.
The only thing holding me back from upgrading to the 13 pro is the CSAM announcement from apple
CSAM?
I disabled it on my 13p a week in because it made any other screen I looked at seem awful
I love this 120h refresh
Oh my god turn that music track off.. Why do you need a continuously playing audio track? That was so annoying. Plus, it distracted from the good quality content.
And this is exactly the reason of why I’m switching from my iPhone 11 Pro to an iPhone 13 Pro. ProMotion is too good to pass up!
Coming from a BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K(240hz monitor with the best motion clarity in the market) I do genuine believe that high refresh rate in smartphones are almost useless for everyday tasks, cool feature at first glance (especially if you are a motion enthusiast) but after that I’d suggest to turn it off and stick to standard refresh rate (60hz), battery efficiency over cool animation to me.
Yeah I agree, but I find having 120hz on with my android phones or iPhone, it feels much better and my battery still doesn't even come close to dying in a day.
Just got my Wife the 256g 13 Pro. Time for her to put down that 256g iPhone 8+.. I'm gonna wait for the 14 or next Note. My 2yr old Note 10+ is still an All Day Device & then some.
I don't care for Camera's or Refresh Rates on my phone's. 🤟 Great info..
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t notice the difference between 60 and 120hz. I’m not reading the text I’m trying to scroll past why do I care if it’s blurry
You’re not the only one. From various sources I’ve seen, most people can’t tell the difference. I can’t see a whit of difference live and I’ve had an iPad Pro from the very first one, so I’ve been unable to notice fast refresh for years, even though I know what to look for.
@@techinrl9869 I have an iPad Pro too and don’t notice the difference
@Garoosh
People pay to much attention to refresh rates or specs in general. Seriously, a 120 refresh rate means nothing to someone who knows it only goes UP to 120 per second. It’s basically a marketing term
You guys must be blind because there is a huge difference. I have a 12 pro max and an iPad Pro and the iPad Pro is so much smoother and way more responsive. It’s a pain when I have to use 60hz because it looks and feels laggy, unresponsive, sluggish and choppy
@Kamie Ibrahim
And you con say the exact same thing as 30 vs 60 or of any refresh rate. Point is yea 60FPS is better than 30 but unless the refresh rate is higher than the native game FPS, you won’t notice anything
60FPS can still feel like 30FPS and vice verse
So basically LTPO
Samsung had it for some time now. IPad pro had it for a long time now. Glad it came to iPhone now but meh.
Haters…it isn’t REAL 120! Samsung 120 is better! 🙄
How?
He’s mocking the haters. But Apple’s is actually superior due to efficiency . Samsungs don’t have the ability to go down to 10hz to save battery.
@@Streamlined955 Arent all the displays made for Apple by Samsung though?
@@HANK_SCORPI0 to Apple’s specs.
@@HANK_SCORPI0 Hardware, yes. But Apple controls the software and color calibration etc.
How blindly one believes in marketing! Why do people want to be sheep? Why can't you even visually show these 120Hz-10Hz
Yeah apple did it again the first phone with 120 hz screen !
U mean the first IPHONE with 120hz
Yus! But you mean… first iPhone with 120Hz. And the best 120Hz display on a smartphone, period!
@@neo_aliaga except this was a terrible implement of 120hz compared to samsung...
@@Dreadpirateflappy true Samsung 120hz is actually smoother than iPhone 120hz
Why do Americans say ‘period’ at the end of things? I know it means ‘full stop’ kind of thing but do you guys say this out loud?
Is it only me or this guy looks a lot like Adam Sandler???
Promotion better
Apple fail: so many channels are trying to explain what ProMotion is...shouldnt it be obviously if its such a requested feature or is it that most of us (99.999%) wouldn't notice or care less...
I mean not everyone is a power user… so it would take explaining to the ones who aren’t.
1:22; can she cover herself up?
promotion
This is the most wasted tech on a phone lol and this guy titles the video “Game changer”
I wouldn’t say it’s a waste, more like apple is fucking retarded and late to the party like always lol
I love my iPhone 13 Pro Max but they should’ve done this a long time ago among many others things like type c chargers
1:22; can she cover herself up?
Why?
@@itzhex3386 they would rather see a male 😩😩
1:22; can she cover herself up?
Oh u a Karen I see