Also Funfact: The manufacturer of these models, Alan and Michael Perry worked for Gamesworkshop for many years on sci-fi and fantasy ranges before creating their own historical range.
Bless them for it, I dont know how they manage to make models so numerous and detailed, but also so incredibly cheap. I only wish they covered more countries and eras in history.
Not sure which Perry it was but one of them joined harlequin miniatures and they were sued as they made models very similair to Gamesworkshop one example was skaven and ver'men.
Live 30 minutes a way from this place and it’s great for anyone interested in military history. The Waterloo diorama is awesome too in the Royal Armouries
@@georgepopescu1327 true, thus lay the wargamer's conundrum. When you put on a game representing a historical battle, the best you can do is to show an approximate point in the battle and the disposition of troops at that point, formations and locations, but you'll never have an accurate 1/1 count of bods. Even the large Waterloo game a couple of years ago, was far short of the actual number, but it was quite a large game with many historical outcomes being repeated.
Man , I would love to be able to play with this ! Not play a war game , mind you , just play with it like a kid would ! What an awesome labor of love this was....all that detail !! Beautiful !
I would suggest that this is the noblest of visual art forms - the realistic depiction of such events of mass human ( and animal) tragedy, suffering and extreme experience. Profundity in extremis.
This looks absolutely incredible! Putting visiting Leeds and this museum on my bucket list, i cannot imagine how much other amazing stuff they have there.
Great diorama, I quite like how the formations for the professional soldiers are tight and orderly and the militia formations are orderly in the front but become more disorganized towards the back.
Auckland museum used to have a diorama of a battle on a Pah between the Maori and the English colonists. It was my favourite thing in the whole museum when I was a kid. But sadly, it's been gone for years now. No idea why.
I'd love to see a 1:1 scale diorama of a historic battle, when you think that the the smaller English army which was at least 6,000 strong was bigger than this 4,000 model diorama, along with the 15,000 strong French army really boggles the mind at how huge these battles were. This is a great project and I love it, I'm not trying to criticize it.
@@eriksaari4430 exactly, it would take up a huge space, but it would be amazing to see the true scale of a battle. Also; when I say 1:1 scale, I mean in terms of number of models, not the size of the model haha.
@@nicmatthews9721 that’s a shame, it’s still accessible on my account but obviously that doesn’t help new people to find it. I’ll see if there’s any other way to access the video of the diorama
Great thanks for posting this today. Have seen this in person and can confirm it is excellent! Not sure how I missed the mirrors on the sides! Have been to Agincourt today on the 605th anniversary to take in the battle field and visit the excellent museum which I can highly recommend!
Hope you make it .The weather late today at least was very wet so seemed appropriate. Also fresh flowers had been left at one of the memorials over looking the battlefield which was moving.
⭐️ it really IS good as it portrays the entire surrounding area so gives an not just idea of the size of the Mexican force but also of the outlying buildings walls and perimeters of The Alamo rather than just the Mission itself…..and they REALLY aren’t keen on anyone taking photos of it ! ⭐️
Amazing diorama. It's true that in the real battle more than 30 000 people were involved but there were a lot of smaller battles in that era were we had 4000 people on both side. So in the diorama we can see how a small to mediu size battle looked like in 14th-15th.
It's something exceptional, there's no doubt about it, who knows how much time and how many modelers it took. It will already be the 10th time I see this video and each time I notice some more detail. I'm painting about 100 lanzichenecchi and I find them everywhere looking at me as if to say: do you want us to live or not? A question: how long did it take to finish it? A heartfelt greeting from Florence and compliments again. 😉👍🏿
It wasn’t just the stakes, the battle was on a boggy marsh, which meant that heavily armoured knights couldn’t be mobile and effective, so they were cut down by archers en masse. They called Agincourt the “End of Chivalry” as they watched thousands of knights cut down by ordinary peasants and yeomen. Represented a turning point in the evolution of warfare.
No I don't think it represented a turning point in the evolution of warfare, the use of gunpowder and canon/musket did, at patay the french cavalry decimated the elite english corp of longbowman.
The battlefield was also limited by the woods on either side, as shown in the diorama, which acted as a funnel as the French advanced towards the English lines. They would only have been able to use their mobility on much more open terrain, irrespective of the boggy ground. As it was they fought on foot, having at least learned the lesson of Crecy that mounted charges were futile against a prepared defence. It’s also frequently overlooked that the battle began with an English advance as the French had initially shown no sign of attacking, apparently expecting the English to surrender. It was this advance that prompted the French to attack.
@@EricChien95 I will explain very carefully: In the Marvel movie Loki had a large army. The museum has a bigger one. It was meant to praise the diorama for the impressive size of the army of miniatures, that metaphorically would exceed Loki's army and impress him so much that he would surrender to Tony Stark and the Avengers instead of fighting.
I didn t know that English people called it Agincourt. In France it is Azincourt with a z not a g. Why did you change the letter ? Is it for the pronounciation ?
I think it’s an English mis-spelling or interpretation which has become customary here over the ages. To English ears it sounds a bit like a ‘g’ pronunciation so I imagine that’s why it has stuck.
The nearby castle was apparently mentioned as Aisincurt in 1165, Asincurtis in the twelfth century, Aisincort in 1202 and Asincourt in 1362. Spelling wasn't fixed back then. After the battle, the herolds of both sides agreed to name the battle after the castle Azincourt with a z. So I guess it wasn't a mishearing by the English in 1415. It's been suggested that it came to be as a spelling error by some medieval scribe, mistaking the letter z for the letter yogh (a type of g that looks very much like the tailed z). This kind of mistake happened a lot with Scottish family names - MacKenzie should really be spelled and pronounced as MacKengie. Also, the local nobleman is still called d'Azincourt with a z in English sources.
Really work on the details, but it sadden me that its always the same 3 battles that are showcased by the British out of the dozen majo battles fought during this lengthly conflict.
From what i learned in school in the UK I thought we won almost every battle in the Hundred Years War. Only when I was older I learned about all the defeats! I think we learned a bit about Joan of Arc, plus Crecy Agincourt and Poitiers and that’s about it.
@@HO-bndk it is, but it is another town about 500kms away from Azincourt. Or maybe by chance the english pronunciation of Azincourt is also Agincourt ? If so, then my bad
Of course, all other visual art forms and subjects are made trivial and egotistical in comparison. It is time that civilisation realised this. Profound truth and realism. Monuments indeed.
I would imagine they got a decent discount, and probably free delivery as 15% at £20 per box (now £22) would be a hefty amount in itself. What I’d like to know is, what did the do with all the empty sprues?
French bravery was for nothing with such an abysmal battle plan. Tommies advancing into machine gun fire on the Somme centuries later highlighted courage and generalship of a similar order.
And then came Patay. ^^ French chivalry was too self confident in Azincourt. They did not made that mistake twice. The ground was realy awfull for a charge. Too mudy. The english positions were realy great in a defensive way. The frenchs will use the same strat the english used at Azincourt at Castillon la bataille. Luring english troops into a mouse trap well defended and with long range fires. Archery was butchered at Patay by the same fench chivalry they exploded in Azincourt, english chivalry was butchered at Castillon. Game over. Say goodbye to aquitania. But you're still welcome to drink some Bordeaux or Cognac bottles my friends.
Fun fact: Agincourt was a battle Between Henry V, French king of england with the French aristocracy of england against Jean II French king of France and the French aristocracy of France. French kings & aristocracy fighting on both sides. nothing english except the territory called england ruled by French.
Thats a little....unnuanced. If you want to go that far I could fecetiously say all French arent French they are Frankish germans ;p Anglo-Norman lords were the mainstay not the exception, ala lords with both landed interests in England and on the continent. This isent the first Plantaganet empire, Richard the 'Lionheart' now that was a occitian french king with fuck all to do with England. By this point it was much much murkier. Unless your discussing the folks down in Aquitiane/Gascony etc. IF you were even slightly unpopular with parliament you'd struggle to find Englishmen or anglo-norman lords willing to waste time and money and life down there for somewhere noone had any interest. You are right however that how its taught in England gives much more weight to the important of English estates when infact De Normandies and early Plantaganets regarded England as a more or less foreign cashcow, some better Kings aside.
@@shacklock01 the first Frankist were germanic tribes, yes. Like the angles & Saxons, the Lombards & ostrogoth in northern Italy, the wisigoth in Spain. but by the 8th century, they stopped being germanic and mixed with the gauls to make the old French. The Plantagenêts were completly French. the 100 years was is not a war between english & French, The Plantagenêts were French & england aristocracy were French also.
@@lecapetien3223 Im related to the Plantagenates through the house of Anjou. Im still English just with Norman ancestry. Henry of Monmouth spoke English as a main language. His favourite King was Alfred the Great who introduced Old English as a primary form of language rather than latin. Henry was English.
@@west6682 Dieu et mon droit ! or should i say "Gott und mein Recht" ?? seems better for the german queen of england. ruclips.net/video/wL5sOKP5Aqw/видео.html btw, how is Prinz Andrew the Pädophile??
imagine living just to do a single battle, nope i would be better off playing total war instead imagine live a long life just to become one of these soldiers on the board :D omg its so cute little tiny soldiers who once been a real human :))
The model is clearly wrong, because it was clearly stated that the archer lines were formed out in a 'V' shape, not a 'semi-oval'. They only did it this way to make the case more compact. Nice try though.
Would be a bit odd to have Market Garden at the Royal Armouries. Personally I would like one of one of battles of 1812..albeit you would need large numbers of American troops withdrawing. Or a diorama of the remodelling of the White House by Redcoat Interior Designs Ltd
Not a fan of the diorama. It looks too clean and sterile, like walking into a castle these days with well-manicured grounds and a tea shop. They fought through almost liquid mud, wearing blackened armour. This looks like the attack of the tin men on Wimbledon Common.
@@vanpallandt5799 Just ask any curator of one of the decent collections. They 'll tell you their shiny exhibits were pollished up from their original black by the Victorians. The "alwhyte" or pollished armour period was in the 1420's but it was abandoned due to practicality on campaign issues.
@@BigMrFirebird i understand that there was some blackening of armour for style but personally i don't always accept the argument that soldiers adapt equipment in quite the way that people imply (soldiers often brought out their best uniform for battle as its all a part of confidence and esprit de corps). I understand that there are examples of russeted armour where the original colour was clearly white. Clearly from manuscript illustrations can see both white and blackened and russet armour
@@vanpallandt5799 There's blue and gold armour i those manuscript illustrations as well. As I've said, go talk to the curators of the best collections. I was fortunate enough to spend time in the Wallace Collection where the then curator, David Edge, repeatedly showed me parts of harness where one could see how the Victorians had burnished out most of the blackening to have nice shiny suits. Also portraits of more notable historical figures from John of Gaunt to Cromwell tend to portray them in blackened armour. "Alwhyte" armour was a phase.
@@BigMrFirebird hi..dont doubt that but the diorama was designed by the Perry Twins in part 2 of the countries most respected wargamers and figure designers and experts in the period
Also Funfact: The manufacturer of these models, Alan and Michael Perry worked for Gamesworkshop for many years on sci-fi and fantasy ranges before creating their own historical range.
Bless them for it, I dont know how they manage to make models so numerous and detailed, but also so incredibly cheap. I only wish they covered more countries and eras in history.
What game was this called they made was it Never Mind the Billhooks?
They also got a cameo in Return of the King extended edition. They played dead Rohan warriors near the dead mumakil.
I sell minis like these in my store. When I saw the medieval ones that the Perry's did...I salivated a little bit. They are really special.
Not sure which Perry it was but one of them joined harlequin miniatures and they were sued as they made models very similair to Gamesworkshop one example was skaven and ver'men.
So glad you enjoyed our display. Great video.
Thank you and thanks for an incredible exhibition!
Live 30 minutes a way from this place and it’s great for anyone interested in military history. The Waterloo diorama is awesome too in the Royal Armouries
Funfact: To represent the battle accurately they would need 6-8 times more figurines.
Yep, a scant 4000 figures is a low budget representation.
@@joshpotter9261 but it would be very hard to see the diorama close enough unless they would build some bridges over it.
@@georgepopescu1327 true, thus lay the wargamer's conundrum. When you put on a game representing a historical battle, the best you can do is to show an approximate point in the battle and the disposition of troops at that point, formations and locations, but you'll never have an accurate 1/1 count of bods. Even the large Waterloo game a couple of years ago, was far short of the actual number, but it was quite a large game with many historical outcomes being repeated.
Yes, a game always is going to be an abstraction at some point.
in 1415?
*_Those periscopes are clever. I'll have to remember that when I build my next wargaming table._*
Those periscopes are such a genius idea!
Man , I would love to be able to play with this ! Not play a war game , mind you , just play with it like a kid would ! What an awesome labor of love this was....all that detail !! Beautiful !
I’m late to this but same I would play with it break it then fix it
A labor of love and talent .
I would suggest that this is the noblest of visual art forms - the realistic depiction of such events of mass human ( and animal) tragedy, suffering and extreme experience. Profundity in extremis.
"In extremis"? Are you sure you mean to use that here?
Yes I am, just as I am sure that you are a moron . Lol.
Hardly "realistic"
This looks absolutely incredible! Putting visiting Leeds and this museum on my bucket list, i cannot imagine how much other amazing stuff they have there.
I imagine those periscopes look awesome through your own eyes, good vid
They work wonderfully well in real life and allow you to get that perspective even though the model is set low.
4K? Surely this is Warhammer 1.4K? :D
One of those figures is the emperor pretending to be a common soldier
I see that you are a man of culture as well.
@@yojon4905 and yet, he learned very little from the longbow 'stares at space marine halberds'
I'm actually using these figures to represent Bretonnians in my army:)
For Sigmar!
Great diorama, I quite like how the formations for the professional soldiers are tight and orderly and the militia formations are orderly in the front but become more disorganized towards the back.
I didn't noticed that. Interesting
Great review of the model. I’ve read about the model before but this was a fabulous fly over of the whole thing. Fab👍🏻
Thanks and it’s well worth a visit if you ever get the chance. Not even 5 per cent of the detailed stuff on the vid really.
Fantastic video, the figures and the terrain is great, but the size of this project is so impressive, all the best, Garry
Thank you for the great video and commentary - and of course you are not spoiling it.
Ha ha thank you 🙏
Wonderfull. Thanks for this information, next time I am in Jolly Old I will visit.
Absolutely incredible stuff. Got to love the Royal Armouries! Was there regularly as a kid, MUST get back to see this diorama. Nice video
I will definitely visit this museum someday! Cheers from the Philippines!
What a beautiful place to visit...Thanks for sharing!
Will make the effort to go and see it looks fantastic great stuff
Thank you
I’d love to see something similar with the battle of Zama!
It's a great achievement !
Thats fantastic! Im in NZ so probably never going to have the chance to visit so its great you did the video! Thanks man
No problem - maybe one day you will!
Auckland museum used to have a diorama of a battle on a Pah between the Maori and the English colonists. It was my favourite thing in the whole museum when I was a kid. But sadly, it's been gone for years now. No idea why.
Amazing place!!!
Super cool, i hope i one day have the time and dedication to complete such an endeavor
I'd love to see a 1:1 scale diorama of a historic battle, when you think that the the smaller English army which was at least 6,000 strong was bigger than this 4,000 model diorama, along with the 15,000 strong French army really boggles the mind at how huge these battles were.
This is a great project and I love it, I'm not trying to criticize it.
There were like 200,000 soldiers on the field at Waterloo. Medieval battles were the size of skirmishes of ancient and early modern battles.
1:1?? wouldnt that take huge space and terracotta army 2.0
@@eriksaari4430 exactly, it would take up a huge space, but it would be amazing to see the true scale of a battle.
Also; when I say 1:1 scale, I mean in terms of number of models, not the size of the model haha.
Spectacular a truly fantastic job it looks amazing.
Wouah very impressive historic diorama . I have an idea how about hundreds of hours and work it need . Thanks for the video .
in total war, i can relive these diorama
i wish total war would focus more on scale than graphics we've been stuck with ~2-4000 men average battles for too long
The course about Agincourt on futurelearn goes into the making of this diorama for the 600th anniversary, really interesting stuff!
Had a quick look for this but sadly it doesn’t appear to be there anymore.
@@nicmatthews9721 that’s a shame, it’s still accessible on my account but obviously that doesn’t help new people to find it. I’ll see if there’s any other way to access the video of the diorama
Great thanks for posting this today. Have seen this in person and can confirm it is excellent! Not sure how I missed the mirrors on the sides! Have been to Agincourt today on the 605th anniversary to take in the battle field and visit the excellent museum which I can highly recommend!
Thank you for watching and one day I will visit the battlefield itself.
Hope you make it .The weather late today at least was very wet so seemed appropriate. Also fresh flowers had been left at one of the memorials over looking the battlefield which was moving.
Wow!
I love Dioramas, if you do too check out the diorama at the Alamo in San Antonio, TX. Super accurate and cool to see.
⭐️ it really IS good as it portrays the entire surrounding area so gives an not just idea of the size of the Mexican force but also of the outlying buildings walls and perimeters of The Alamo rather than just the Mission itself…..and they REALLY aren’t keen on anyone taking photos of it ! ⭐️
@@mobileandhostile7895 No they are not!
Awesome will visit thanks
Amazing! Wish we had such things where I live.
cool
Amazing diorama. It's true that in the real battle more than 30 000 people were involved but there were a lot of smaller battles in that era were we had 4000 people on both side. So in the diorama we can see how a small to mediu size battle looked like in 14th-15th.
Fantastic! I am so jealous! Hehe thank you for posting!
You’re welcome! 👍
Realy great.
Very cool.
Very cool
Incredible!
Fun fact: I also make dioramas using Perry Miniatures. Working on a 65x65cm diorama right now
I do little modeling - this is amazing amount of work!
It’s so cool that they use Perry’s to recreate this battle
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more of your work
Thanks a lot - loads more to come!
Good video, the model is incredible IRL, as is the rest of the museum.
Nice!
I would love a diorama like this of the Battle of Vaslui!
It's something exceptional, there's no doubt about it, who knows how much time and how many modelers it took. It will already be the 10th time I see this video and each time I notice some more detail. I'm painting about 100 lanzichenecchi and I find them everywhere looking at me as if to say: do you want us to live or not? A question: how long did it take to finish it? A heartfelt greeting from Florence and compliments again. 😉👍🏿
Great video mate.
Cheers captain!
It wasn’t just the stakes, the battle was on a boggy marsh, which meant that heavily armoured knights couldn’t be mobile and effective, so they were cut down by archers en masse.
They called Agincourt the “End of Chivalry” as they watched thousands of knights cut down by ordinary peasants and yeomen. Represented a turning point in the evolution of warfare.
No I don't think it represented a turning point in the evolution of warfare, the use of gunpowder and canon/musket did, at patay the french cavalry decimated the elite english corp of longbowman.
The battlefield was also limited by the woods on either side, as shown in the diorama, which acted as a funnel as the French advanced towards the English lines. They would only have been able to use their mobility on much more open terrain, irrespective of the boggy ground. As it was they fought on foot, having at least learned the lesson of Crecy that mounted charges were futile against a prepared defence.
It’s also frequently overlooked that the battle began with an English advance as the French had initially shown no sign of attacking, apparently expecting the English to surrender. It was this advance that prompted the French to attack.
Video claims: "4K"
RUclips replies: "You'll take 1080p and you'll like it."
I’ve tried so many times to fix 😵😵😵
Loki: "I have an Army"
Tony Stark: "We have the Agincourt Diorama at the Royal Armouries Museum"
Loki: " I concede."
lol
this makes no sense on a lot of different levels.
How is it even relevant?
@@EricChien95 I will explain very carefully: In the Marvel movie Loki had a large army. The museum has a bigger one. It was meant to praise the diorama for the impressive size of the army of miniatures, that metaphorically would exceed Loki's army and impress him so much that he would surrender to Tony Stark and the Avengers instead of fighting.
@@blank557 still makes no sense
Those mirrors are brilliant. History is best taught through art which is why the enemies of freedom tear down our statues.
Blimey where is Waldo?great display!
waouh, superbe
That's cool
1 disliker took an arrow in the knee.
Фантастика !!!)
I didn t know that English people called it Agincourt. In France it is Azincourt with a z not a g. Why did you change the letter ? Is it for the pronounciation ?
I think it’s an English mis-spelling or interpretation which has become customary here over the ages. To English ears it sounds a bit like a ‘g’ pronunciation so I imagine that’s why it has stuck.
The nearby castle was apparently mentioned as Aisincurt in 1165, Asincurtis in the twelfth century, Aisincort in 1202 and Asincourt in 1362. Spelling wasn't fixed back then. After the battle, the herolds of both sides agreed to name the battle after the castle Azincourt with a z. So I guess it wasn't a mishearing by the English in 1415. It's been suggested that it came to be as a spelling error by some medieval scribe, mistaking the letter z for the letter yogh (a type of g that looks very much like the tailed z). This kind of mistake happened a lot with Scottish family names - MacKenzie should really be spelled and pronounced as MacKengie. Also, the local nobleman is still called d'Azincourt with a z in English sources.
FOR KING AND SAINT GEORGE 🏴🏴🏴
Agincourt was more of a massacre than an actual battle. Had family at Agincourt.
Really work on the details, but it sadden me that its always the same 3 battles that are showcased by the British out of the dozen majo battles fought during this lengthly conflict.
From what i learned in school in the UK I thought we won almost every battle in the Hundred Years War. Only when I was older I learned about all the defeats! I think we learned a bit about Joan of Arc, plus Crecy Agincourt and Poitiers and that’s about it.
They only talk about the battles they won.
Very nice diorama ! The only thing is this battle happened near Azincourt, not Agincourt ;)
Agincourt is a well established English pronunciation. Exactly the same way Englishmen say "Paris" and not "Parrreeee"
@@HO-bndk it is, but it is another town about 500kms away from Azincourt. Or maybe by chance the english pronunciation of Azincourt is also Agincourt ? If so, then my bad
Of course, all other visual art forms and subjects are made trivial and egotistical in comparison. It is time that civilisation realised this. Profound truth and realism. Monuments indeed.
Is this at Leeds?
If only there was some sound archeological evidence for the battle site.
so how much does this cost at games workshop?
Who else was offended by the bent sword at 3:09 ?
And the apparent total lack of arrows.
There is a visitor centre in Azincourt established by the French to celebrate one of their worst defeats.
This is local to me they also have the battle of waterloo
So what your telling me is, around 110 boxes of perry miniatures is what it takes to represent this scale.
Hmmmm...good to know
I would imagine they got a decent discount, and probably free delivery as 15% at £20 per box (now £22) would be a hefty amount in itself.
What I’d like to know is, what did the do with all the empty sprues?
Go to grand maket in Saint Petersburg
Peasant bows can´t melt knight´s armor.
Entire noble families were wiped out in the male line, and in some regions an entire generation of landed nobility was annihilated.
French bravery was for nothing with such an abysmal battle plan.
Tommies advancing into machine gun fire on the Somme centuries later highlighted courage and generalship of a similar order.
WWI generals weren't idiots you know.
And then came Patay. ^^ French chivalry was too self confident in Azincourt. They did not made that mistake twice. The ground was realy awfull for a charge. Too mudy. The english positions were realy great in a defensive way.
The frenchs will use the same strat the english used at Azincourt at Castillon la bataille. Luring english troops into a mouse trap well defended and with long range fires.
Archery was butchered at Patay by the same fench chivalry they exploded in Azincourt, english chivalry was butchered at Castillon. Game over. Say goodbye to aquitania. But you're still welcome to drink some Bordeaux or Cognac bottles my friends.
The English archers look like bretonnian archer from Warhammer !
I had the very same thought.
They were actually both sculpted by the Perry brothers, so that probably contributes to how similar they are.
What do you imagine the Bretonnian archers were based on?
Joan of Arc: do you have spurs?
Who clicked on this and thought it was a Warhammer 40k video ?
Bataille d'Azincourt
1:06 Let's not exagerate, estimated aren't from "5 to 1 to 3 to 1". It's generally around 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Agincourt .
Back when the elite classes of society were war hardened veterans, and not just merchants (corporations).
What do you mean there’s a British model making company that isn’t games workshop
What no model of the Battle of Baugé? I do wonder why ? ROFL!
Because how many visitors on a day out jolly to see the old guns and suits of armour at the museum do you think would have ever heard of it?
No English Bowmen without trousers 0/10
I have had massive diorama after eating a curry
😂
Was this diorama made with Perry brothers 28mm miniatures ? Ha ha ok should of watched a bit longer lol
Fun fact, it's Azincourt, not Agincourt
Fun fact: Agincourt was a battle Between Henry V, French king of england with the French aristocracy of england against Jean II French king of France and the French aristocracy of France.
French kings & aristocracy fighting on both sides.
nothing english except the territory called england ruled by French.
Thats a little....unnuanced. If you want to go that far I could fecetiously say all French arent French they are Frankish germans ;p Anglo-Norman lords were the mainstay not the exception, ala lords with both landed interests in England and on the continent. This isent the first Plantaganet empire, Richard the 'Lionheart' now that was a occitian french king with fuck all to do with England. By this point it was much much murkier. Unless your discussing the folks down in Aquitiane/Gascony etc. IF you were even slightly unpopular with parliament you'd struggle to find Englishmen or anglo-norman lords willing to waste time and money and life down there for somewhere noone had any interest. You are right however that how its taught in England gives much more weight to the important of English estates when infact De Normandies and early Plantaganets regarded England as a more or less foreign cashcow, some better Kings aside.
@@shacklock01 the first Frankist were germanic tribes, yes.
Like the angles & Saxons, the Lombards & ostrogoth in northern Italy, the wisigoth in Spain.
but by the 8th century, they stopped being germanic and mixed with the gauls to make the old French.
The Plantagenêts were completly French.
the 100 years was is not a war between english & French,
The Plantagenêts were French & england aristocracy were French also.
@@lecapetien3223 Im related to the Plantagenates through the house of Anjou. Im still English just with Norman ancestry. Henry of Monmouth spoke English as a main language. His favourite King was Alfred the Great who introduced Old English as a primary form of language rather than latin. Henry was English.
@@west6682
Dieu et mon droit !
or should i say "Gott und mein Recht" ??
seems better for the german queen of england.
ruclips.net/video/wL5sOKP5Aqw/видео.html
btw, how is Prinz Andrew the Pädophile??
@@lecapetien3223 Salty
imagine living just to do a single battle, nope i would be better off playing total war instead
imagine live a long life just to become one of these soldiers on the board :D omg its so cute little tiny soldiers who once been a real human :))
This battle was impossible in total war 1.
Shogun was the first game though:)
@@orvar2k Yeah, but few knew about Shogun until they played Medieval 1.
The model is clearly wrong, because it was clearly stated that the archer lines were formed out in a 'V' shape, not a 'semi-oval'. They only did it this way to make the case more compact. Nice try though.
No war dogs?
Where are the Elephants?
funny its never Market Garden, Zulu overrunning the British at Isandlwana, Siege of Yorktown
Eh? There is a whole freaking museum at Oosterbeek on Market Garden, with dozens of dioramas (and actual militaria).
Would be a bit odd to have Market Garden at the Royal Armouries. Personally I would like one of one of battles of 1812..albeit you would need large numbers of American troops withdrawing. Or a diorama of the remodelling of the White House by Redcoat Interior Designs Ltd
Battle of agincourt the biggest upset in history
Not a fan of the diorama. It looks too clean and sterile, like walking into a castle these days with well-manicured grounds and a tea shop. They fought through almost liquid mud, wearing blackened armour. This looks like the attack of the tin men on Wimbledon Common.
How do you know they wore blackened armour..sources?
@@vanpallandt5799 Just ask any curator of one of the decent collections. They 'll tell you their shiny exhibits were pollished up from their original black by the Victorians. The "alwhyte" or pollished armour period was in the 1420's but it was abandoned due to practicality on campaign issues.
@@BigMrFirebird i understand that there was some blackening of armour for style but personally i don't always accept the argument that soldiers adapt equipment in quite the way that people imply (soldiers often brought out their best uniform for battle as its all a part of confidence and esprit de corps). I understand that there are examples of russeted armour where the original colour was clearly white. Clearly from manuscript illustrations can see both white and blackened and russet armour
@@vanpallandt5799 There's blue and gold armour i those manuscript illustrations as well. As I've said, go talk to the curators of the best collections. I was fortunate enough to spend time in the Wallace Collection where the then curator, David Edge, repeatedly showed me parts of harness where one could see how the Victorians had burnished out most of the blackening to have nice shiny suits. Also portraits of more notable historical figures from John of Gaunt to Cromwell tend to portray them in blackened armour. "Alwhyte" armour was a phase.
@@BigMrFirebird hi..dont doubt that but the diorama was designed by the Perry Twins in part 2 of the countries most respected wargamers and figure designers and experts in the period
One day England will learn the correct spelling: AZincourt. with a Z!
When the French go back in time and win the battle, we’ll start using the ‘Z’. 😂
I don't know if you noticed but words in different languages are often spelt and pronounced differently