This is the month of Maying!! It's not copied but VERY similar! I had friends preforming it in choir and I'm glad to see that it's famous and it has parodies
"when the narrator is wooing you to enjoy his 'dilly dilly'... But while your words are speeding, take care with your voice leading, observe alto and you'll see, bar 39 requires an E; But alas! alack! Dishonor! composed into a corner! back to the board of drawing, for this kind bard of Sol-Fa-ing.
The same thing occurs in bar 15, and was done to avoid doubling the third. There's more going on here than rigidly following voice-leading rules in one part.
Freddy’s transformation into Peter Schickele 2.0 is nearing completion! Heaven knows what hilarious monstrosity he will come up with when his metamorphosis is complete.
I got sick of Whitacre when one enterprising MD decided to have us sing one of his pieces which Whitacre composed as a pretentious and rather boring mashup of all his other pieces. **gags** I will say though, I do love his "Lux Arumque."
As a vocalist and music education major, I've laughed quite a bit at the couple songs you've uploaded! You have a great understanding of both the musical styles and how listeners (and performers) sometime feel with these compositions. You have yourself another subscriber. Great work!
Absolutely spot on! I also caught "This is the month of Maying," which I sang with my high school madrigal group - and that was almost fifty years ago! Thanks for the memories.
Perhaps you have previously avoided exposure to madrigals? Because you are simply quoting the most common source of "fa-la-la" that is still sung today; but it is in fact a very, very common phrase in older songs that are now way out of fashion.
I love this type of music. #reformistnerd For anyone wondering. In my Dutch Calvinist church, we sang "This joyful Eastertide" which is a real madrigal. I also recommend the video "The Cambridge Singers - 13 Famous English Madrigals". It's literally just a pop chart lol. With love ballades and celebrations. It's amazing! One literally has the line "I have good lips to kiss"
Aren't a lot of John Dowland madrigals rather down and sad? I'm thinking of 'Now oh now' especially: Now, oh now I needs must part, Parting though I absent mourn. Absence can no joy impart; Joy once fled cannot return. While I live I needs must love, Love lives not when Hope is gone. Now at last Despair doth prove, Love divided loveth none. Sad despair doth drive me hence; This despair unkindness sends. If that parting be offence, It is she which then offends. I've sometimes wondered if 'Dowland' should be spelled 'doleful'. But that certainly doesn't describe all of Dowland's madrigals, let alone everyone else's. Fine Knacks features a peddler who admits his wares are trash in the most cheerfully tuneful fashion. Fine knacks for ladies, cheap, choice, brave and new Good pennyworths but money cannot move I keep a fair but for the fair to view A beggar may be liberal of love Though all my wares be trash, the heart is true, the heart is true, the heart is true Great gifts are guiles and look for gifts again My trifles come as treasures from my mind It is a precious jewel to be plain Sometimes in shell the Orient's pearls we find Of others take a sheaf, of me a grain, of me a grain, of me a grain Of others take a sheaf, of me a grain, of me a grain, of me a grain Within this pack pins, points, laces and gloves And divers toys fitting a country fair But in my heart, where duty serves and loves Turtles and twins, Court's brood, a heavenly pair Happy the heart that thinks of no removes, of no removes, of no removes
I've been singing in a madrigal group since 2010 (& a few summers ten years prior to that, come to think of it) being the only tenor. Now I am re-learning all the music to sing bass. Perhaps we can be of use.
I think the key with the success of the madrigal was getting the words across to the audience; and homophony aided this immensely. When there are no words (of note) to communicate - the extra joy of some counterpoint does seem a wonderful invention to make the constant repetition (common in many madrigals) an added joy of anticipating the counterpoint. As in - I think this was a key part of their success and dominance at the time.
bro just give us unironic originals, you don't need to hide from criticism with the the "it's meta humor" trope. It's a good madrigal, just give us this with actual lyrics worth listening to, a nice poem by Edmund Spencer or some shit, or your own non-meta poesie (lol) if you'd prefer, we'd all love it just the same. No need to bring down the gravitas with self referential humor. Not enough composers on RUclips. The few that are here rarely upload, and then a lot of others just mask their works in humor and memes.
You say "we'd all love it just the same," and while I wish that were true, it's pretty inarguable that the meta-humour thing _is_ a lot of why this channel attracted attention. Deservedly or not, composers of unironic old-style music hardly ever get much notice.
@@Nooticus I am a composer channel, I've been following other composers for 10 years, no, I don't need any recommendations. But also, no, there really aren't hundreds, that's an exaggeration. And this channel wasn't always that way, I followed initially when it was mostly fugues. Calling it a music comedy channel is typecasting him.
@@Cherodar It's a shame. I personally find it degrading that composers have to resort to shitposts to get any attention. It's fine as a way to draw an audience, but if it goes on too long, you just get typecasted, as the above commenter did calling this a music comedy channel.
Is it just me, or am I missing part of the joke, but there seems to be a problem with the presentation of the lyrics. Talking of missing the joke, you seem to have some followers who make a habit of that--or rather, they get the joke but don't like jokes. I like the way you don't put stuff up to a schedule, but just when you have something to share.
It's a madrigal - a form created for live performance, and as was still common centuries later with lieder - verse and tune repetition where common as a composer often only had a single chance at imparting a melody and all the words to the audience. Of course, these days - the modern audience is spoiled by recordings (ever since the vinyl - and now RUclips/Spotify etc) & lyric-sheets so can find it difficult to understand why these repeats existed. But there is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that repeats were both successful & necessary to success in their time. Just consider the composer was building Tony Blackburn INTO the song... ;-)
Subscriptions -> Ad revenue -> I can afford to hire singers who can actually sing the parts.
But what if we like hearing you singing in Falsetto?
But what if I volunteer to help
😳
Honestly, the mediocre singing is my favorite part.
If you are looking for volunteer singers, pretty sure we go to the same uni and I'd be happy to help out. Love your stuff :)
@@jr2470 agreed, it imbues the song with a sense of common folk singing!
Wow! This 5-minute piece sounds like 50 minutes long
Every madrigal ever lol
great job. It’s giving post-neo- “feeding her flock near to the mountainside” -ism
Peak cottagecore
"feed my flock on your mountainside" is a double entendre too, but i can't figure out what for
This is the month of Maying!! It's not copied but VERY similar! I had friends preforming it in choir and I'm glad to see that it's famous and it has parodies
Hehe I think you mean "every english madrigal"
Slaps tho
Yup
This piece is genius. As annoying as every madrigal I've ever heard. I don't care if it's Gesualdo or whatever, it's just obnoxious.
Lol I know, as soon as I heard the first three notes I knew which piece he was parodying! I love madrigals, don't know why people don't like them
I thoroughly enjoy your Falala.... but by writing this I'm afraid I fell int a bawdy doubl'entendre. Damn Wilbye Weelkes and Morley!
What?
@@PieInTheSky9 smth in British
How is nobody acknowledging the utter genius of Mr. Wickham's poetry here? It's at least as clever as the music, and twice as witty.
Fa la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la/10.
it's giving gilbert and sullivan
"when the narrator is wooing you to enjoy his 'dilly dilly'...
But while your words are speeding,
take care with your voice leading,
observe alto and you'll see,
bar 39 requires an E;
But alas! alack! Dishonor!
composed into a corner!
back to the board of drawing,
for this kind bard of Sol-Fa-ing.
The same thing occurs in bar 15, and was done to avoid doubling the third. There's more going on here than rigidly following voice-leading rules in one part.
I couldn’t help but follow along and try to learn my part despite knowing it was a joke
No one can resist choir kid impulses
Freddy’s transformation into Peter Schickele 2.0 is nearing completion! Heaven knows what hilarious monstrosity he will come up with when his metamorphosis is complete.
Johann Sebastian Mastropiero
I find it nice that you chose to post this in the month of May.
I'd love to hear "Every Gesualdo madrigal ever" 😂😂😂😂😂
“This composer killed his wife and her lover - you won’t BELIEVE what he did next…”
Yes please!!
Actually, every Gesualdo madrigal is already every Gesualdo madrigal ever.
Freddy Wickham sounds like an original english madrigal composer
Wow! Summer really must be cumen in!
And don't forget to mention breathy voices with no vibrato, often favored in madrigal ensambles 🤣🤣
With this sort of explanation, I finally get why the Gilbert and Sullivan song "Brightly Dawns our Wedding Day" is a madrigal 😂 Thank you!
fa la la la la la la la la la la la laaaaa!
(old english for "this was a good video, thank you!"
"Turns out Eric Whitacre is far easier than Renaissance polyphony, who knew?" Anyone who has sung both? ;)
Music major here, hey what's up
I got sick of Whitacre when one enterprising MD decided to have us sing one of his pieces which Whitacre composed as a pretentious and rather boring mashup of all his other pieces. **gags** I will say though, I do love his "Lux Arumque."
One trick pony gang rise up
I've sung both. Depends on the composer and the piece, but I would generally agree.
Just did both in one concert in a college choir last semester 😂 The Renaissance polyphony was in fact harder
I listened to the whole thing once through and felt like they sang it twice.
that rolled r at 0:36 blew my wig back
'Now is the month of maying 😉' Great job on creating this, it captures the spirit of madrigals very well!
As a vocalist and music education major, I've laughed quite a bit at the couple songs you've uploaded! You have a great understanding of both the musical styles and how listeners (and performers) sometime feel with these compositions. You have yourself another subscriber. Great work!
Here are the lyrics I remember most: Fa la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la
Oh, you're a dirty one!
I love how the second "falala" just gets gradually more and more in tune with each repetition. :D Sweet solfege class memories. :D
Ooh, you touch my fa la la...
the falala gets on my nerves incredibly, subscribed
love that this came up on my recommended after i had to sing now is the month of maying two times this weekend 😭😭
that song is the bane of my existence
Absolutely spot on! I also caught "This is the month of Maying," which I sang with my high school madrigal group - and that was almost fifty years ago! Thanks for the memories.
When I hear "falala" it just makes me think of deck the halls
Perhaps you have previously avoided exposure to madrigals? Because you are simply quoting the most common source of "fa-la-la" that is still sung today; but it is in fact a very, very common phrase in older songs that are now way out of fashion.
okay I'm gonna ask my friends to sing this with me for a competition 😂
Brilliant. You have the style pegged 100%!
This piece is splendidly observing, yet thee hath spelled 'musicke' wrong.
Shouldn't it be "thou hast"?
@@susannefri6862 Indeed, I stand corrected.
And now to please keen swingers / we'll hear the Kings' Singers
I'm just as impressed by your range!
Another great offering in the series!
I love this type of music. #reformistnerd
For anyone wondering. In my Dutch Calvinist church, we sang "This joyful Eastertide" which is a real madrigal.
I also recommend the video "The Cambridge Singers - 13 Famous English Madrigals".
It's literally just a pop chart lol. With love ballades and celebrations. It's amazing!
One literally has the line "I have good lips to kiss"
I can't wait for this to end , but i kinda dont want it to stop too , it feels soo , falalaing
I love Vaughn Williams!!
We all love Vaughn Williams
This is my new favorite thing.
Aren't a lot of John Dowland madrigals rather down and sad? I'm thinking of 'Now oh now' especially:
Now, oh now I needs must part,
Parting though I absent mourn.
Absence can no joy impart;
Joy once fled cannot return.
While I live I needs must love,
Love lives not when Hope is gone.
Now at last Despair doth prove,
Love divided loveth none.
Sad despair doth drive me hence;
This despair unkindness sends.
If that parting be offence,
It is she which then offends.
I've sometimes wondered if 'Dowland' should be spelled 'doleful'. But that certainly doesn't describe all of Dowland's madrigals, let alone everyone else's. Fine Knacks features a peddler who admits his wares are trash in the most cheerfully tuneful fashion.
Fine knacks for ladies, cheap, choice, brave and new
Good pennyworths but money cannot move
I keep a fair but for the fair to view
A beggar may be liberal of love
Though all my wares be trash, the heart is true, the heart is true, the heart is true
Great gifts are guiles and look for gifts again
My trifles come as treasures from my mind
It is a precious jewel to be plain
Sometimes in shell the Orient's pearls we find
Of others take a sheaf, of me a grain, of me a grain, of me a grain
Of others take a sheaf, of me a grain, of me a grain, of me a grain
Within this pack pins, points, laces and gloves
And divers toys fitting a country fair
But in my heart, where duty serves and loves
Turtles and twins, Court's brood, a heavenly pair
Happy the heart that thinks of no removes, of no removes, of no removes
sight-reading auditions be like
Good old Queen Bess would have loved this
10/10 would double-tap to skip the fa-la-las again.
This vs Handel's "We Like Sheep", who would win? 😏
Both haha
Nice satire of CPDL editions by barring across the staves in a vocal score.
Not enough English cadences
welcome to family madrigal
the home of family madrigal
Where all the people are fantastical and magical...
Feels illegal being so early
if there was a vote, this would win my ballett
Well,that will get stuck in my head fore the next three weeks ... Thanks a lot... Awesome work,well written and also funny
That was funny :-D Thanks for posting.
Great work Freddy!
I was poised to comment "where's Phyllis" until we got to 5:05!
I need to learn how to do this.✍️✍️
I've been singing in a madrigal group since 2010 (& a few summers ten years prior to that, come to think of it) being the only tenor. Now I am re-learning all the music to sing bass. Perhaps we can be of use.
Stunningly wonderful, bravo!
I liked the "la la la la" part
Sounds like “My Bonny Lass She Smileth” composed by Thomas Morley
This is hilarious! Well done.
Delightful! Was hoping it would go to the relative minor, but I suppose that misses the point. Falalla
It does though, at the beginning of the second half!
I liked the part where it was "fa-la-la-la-la-la-la"
I actually liked the Fa La La La La La La, but you do you
Brilliant - and the singers weren’t that bad.
The fa la la haunted me 💀
Fa la la la la la la la la la.🎶🎵🎶
"Turns out Eric Whitacre is far easier than Renaissance polyphony, who knew?" Um, I knew.
Entrrrrrancing!
Madrigals evolved into church hymns.
Pure gold
Perfect!
For sight readers, could you change frame just a tiny bit earlier next time?
Absolutely brilliant, many thanks!
Thomas Morley Vibes :)
Weep o mine eyes and see snot (now you are cursed)
Absolutely the truth.
Fyer fyer
😁 very nice
Nitpick: Descant is very high. Why not F major?
Spot on 😂
wooing me to enjoy his what?
His fa la la
hey nonny nonny!
"to cheer the court and Queen*"
..."and King" :((
Now Is the month of May-ing??
Goes hard on X2 (not because the execution is too slow, it would have been way too hard to perform this any faster, it's just way too repetitive lol)
That's not a madrigal. That's a balletto.
as a relative music noob, the falalas in "come away sweet love" were not kind to me
Haha :)
Er, where are the English cadences...?
The lyrics are always homophonic and the falala chorus is not. That was new at the time though!
I think the key with the success of the madrigal was getting the words across to the audience; and homophony aided this immensely. When there are no words (of note) to communicate - the extra joy of some counterpoint does seem a wonderful invention to make the constant repetition (common in many madrigals) an added joy of anticipating the counterpoint. As in - I think this was a key part of their success and dominance at the time.
Solid composition. Too much repetition - I get this is a foible of madrigals, but the joke doesn't survive all those repeats.
I kinda like it, but kinda don't... 5+ minutes english madrigal is not my "Go-to" music... but the concept/arrangement is cool
Technically, this isn’t a madrigal, but a ballett.
bro just give us unironic originals, you don't need to hide from criticism with the the "it's meta humor" trope. It's a good madrigal, just give us this with actual lyrics worth listening to, a nice poem by Edmund Spencer or some shit, or your own non-meta poesie (lol) if you'd prefer, we'd all love it just the same. No need to bring down the gravitas with self referential humor. Not enough composers on RUclips. The few that are here rarely upload, and then a lot of others just mask their works in humor and memes.
You say "we'd all love it just the same," and while I wish that were true, it's pretty inarguable that the meta-humour thing _is_ a lot of why this channel attracted attention. Deservedly or not, composers of unironic old-style music hardly ever get much notice.
@@Nooticus I am a composer channel, I've been following other composers for 10 years, no, I don't need any recommendations. But also, no, there really aren't hundreds, that's an exaggeration. And this channel wasn't always that way, I followed initially when it was mostly fugues. Calling it a music comedy channel is typecasting him.
@@Cherodar It's a shame. I personally find it degrading that composers have to resort to shitposts to get any attention. It's fine as a way to draw an audience, but if it goes on too long, you just get typecasted, as the above commenter did calling this a music comedy channel.
@@Nooticus Satire is fun. But being typecast as PDQ Bach and nobody caring about Peter Shickele isn't fun.
@@Nooticus If it's no big deal, my desire shouldn't frustrate you so.
Is it just me, or am I missing part of the joke, but there seems to be a problem with the presentation of the lyrics.
Talking of missing the joke, you seem to have some followers who make a habit of that--or rather, they get the joke but don't like jokes. I like the way you don't put stuff up to a schedule, but just when you have something to share.
Repetitive
Which is accurate to the genre!
It's a madrigal - a form created for live performance, and as was still common centuries later with lieder - verse and tune repetition where common as a composer often only had a single chance at imparting a melody and all the words to the audience.
Of course, these days - the modern audience is spoiled by recordings (ever since the vinyl - and now RUclips/Spotify etc) & lyric-sheets so can find it difficult to understand why these repeats existed. But there is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that repeats were both successful & necessary to success in their time.
Just consider the composer was building Tony Blackburn INTO the song... ;-)