I'm suprised that Liza is being seriously considered for the team. Sasha will never give away her spot, even though she is injuired. She landed one quad in Vegas with an injured foot and she will land more at the nationals. There is too much at stake here.
She was 3rd in Worlds. What makes her unworthy of being chosen? It's not about what you "can" do, it's about consistency, and the Empress has been bringing it all season!
Sasha finished 12th the short at Worlds last year and 1st in the free. What does that tell you? Inconsistency. She can win and she can falter. It all depends on the quads. Anna and Kamila should be shoe ins. Sasha isn’t.
@@totesgene she made a massive mistake in the short, which put her in 12th and then only connected with a few quads in the free and still got the bronze. I love Liza but she’s just not up with the top Eteri girls
Man: I am Hanyu's fan here and hope he win (that would be fantastic). But let's be real. Nathan is so strong both mentally and physically. I think Yuzuru will win SP and Nathan will win LP and the all event. Yuma may be in the podium if some top skaters make mistakes.Woman: totally agree. Anna may win if Kamila messes up (like the way Nathan did in 2018). Pairs: I hope Sui - Han will win. They must not make any mistake. And know nothing about Dance.
@@Sayu277...man, if only all it took to win a gold was a US passport, I'd be an Olympic Champion too. I wonder why all these other US skaters can't win gold. Let me guess: unlike Nathan, they keep forgetting their passports?
@@divinearia1601 the Passport does help not to get calls, pcs caps and to skate jump drills while still getting those pcs point. Plus it helps with hitting the bullet points for goe.
@@Sayu277...PCS is pretty subjective at times due to personal standards and preferences but if you'd rather blame that on a passport, fine. Same with GOEs. And what you call "jump drills" isn't something that should work against one in PCS as long as they have all the required elements because there is no specific requirements for number of transitions. All you have to do is enough for what your music is calling for. If a skater chooses to do way more transitions than necessary, that's their problem. Nobody ever promised them bonus pts for being the skater to do the most.
@@divinearia1601 goe have clearly outlined bulletpoints in the rulebook any skater has to hit to recieve those goe. As to pcs those outlines may be a tad less clear than goe but they are still there (even If the judges seem to incompetent or overworked to follow them)
The most exciting competitions will be the pairs and ice dancing. My pick is Sui and Han for gold. The 2 - 4 places are between the 3 russian pairs who are so good any mistakes will change the standings. The ice dancing politics keep the suspense going for the top standings. The audience must watch the judges as much as the performances.
I think Yuma is more likely to make the podium than Vincent or Shoma. I'd even root for Yuma to be OGM but that's on Nathan's hands right now. My prediction for Pairs is pretty much same as yours. Ice dance I think H/D gonna end up 4th with S/K taking the silver (unfortunately lol). Women's I'd expect Kamila, Anna, and Tuk
I agree that bronze in the Team event is 'reserved' for Japan but they can even aim for the silver. JPN Women and Pairs can outskate the US contenders, their men will most likely outskate RU but not the US, however it is points not total performance score being summed, so it does not matter that Nathan wins by 100+ margin😬..it all comes down to how high among the 10 teams and in the FS -among the 5 - the lovely JPN dance team is placed. And if that difference for the US is enough to compensate for the [potential] ladies and pairs advantage JPN might have over them.
There is also the factor that Nathan might not want to do the team event with it being so close to the men's SP. At the same time, K/F imo aren't worse than the Japanese pair and if they skate clean (though that's a big if) they can outscore the Japanese.
@@rvsone1629 ok, looking at the scores: R/K medaled at both grand prix assignments (208.2 and 209.42 in total score) while K/F best on grand prix (🥉) was 201.69. I think they might be around the same level, but if both skate clean, the Japanese would still place higher (imo) Regarding Nathan- agree👍
My impossible list to win.but damn I love them.. For ladies - Anya For Men - Yuzu For Ice dance - Stepanova/Bukin See 🙈🙈 impossible but still my dream 💖
I am loving these lists! Got some things to add. 1.) DO NOT COUNT YUMA OUT! Although his Grand Prix competitions weren’t as competitive, I really think there is some star power in him. He is the reigning World silver medalist and he can be a dark horse. 2.) If Rika is back, healthy, and skates clean with her triple axel and quad sal, she can really disrupt this Russian sweep for the podium. 3.) I really think that Japan might take silver for the team event because we know that they are strong in men and women (no matter who are their representatives) but the addition to the pairs team triumphs the US that is pretty much relying on mens and ice dance. 4.) Kolyada is bringing back white crow!!! If he can bring the same magic that program had last season and even improve on it, I think he can be another contender 5.) for pairs and ice dance, I think these are going to be the most exciting. I think the top 2 for pairs are locked (don’t know positions but I would prefer Sui/Han) but that 3rd place spot is so interesting. For ice dance, the French team is a lock to win as long as they keep the magic. But 2nd and 3rd are a big mix, the Russian teams, the us teams, the Canadians, and THE ITALIAN TEAM~ Figure skating is so exciting right now. I am so excited for the Olympics!!!
Thanks for watching! And your points are valid! Can't wait to see if Yuma shakes things up. And would love to see Rika disrupt the Russian dominance in women's singles. Countdown is on!
Trusova is the strongest in character. we saw that in the usa. she is the only way to get gold with a fracture. she will perform even in pain. She has a goal and she will go to the end. Good luck to her.
Thank uuu, idk I found it a bit odd that they didn’t even consider trusova for at least 3rd place when they were doing their predictions for the ladies. I mean at worlds she would have easily beaten Liza if it wasn’t for the fact that she landed in 12th after her short. If she had landed in….lets say 10th and did how she did in her free she could have been second and maybe in first in worlds if she had landed just one more quad in her free. Like I mean who else do u know can go from 12th place to 3rd…wow. And also yea Sasha has not yet landed all 5 quads at an actual competition but at test skates she did it amazingly, if she does that at nations I mean cmon…who’s score would be able to beat her 5 quads. I wish her all the best though and great recovery. And I am waiting to see if she will attempt her 5 quads at nationals or if she will reduce it (probably to 3) but if she does attempt 5 I really hope she lands all of them to prove people wrong lol.
I definitely like your picks..especially the prediction for dance!! It is about time someone..or someones..make the case that S/K have been propped up!! ty! Love you guys!
In the Ice Dance, it'll be: Gold - the French team. Silver - Sinitsina & Katsolopov. 3rd might be Hubbell & Donohue. Madison Hubbell gives off a very STIFF posture compared to the other ladies.
@@cipriancoman5098 seriously. I mean they kind of just completely dismissed her. This girl went from 12th to 3rd place at worlds. Had she landed one more quad she would have definitely been second, maybe in first. And she landed all at test skates imagine she does that at world lol. She performed on an injury at US and still became first. It’s crazy they didn’t mention her. I hope she has an amazing recovery and proves them wrong. I mean she just mentioned she’s back to training. :)
@@oyinolubayo7079 they said this is what they like. So I guess they prefer Liza. It’ll be quite interesting to see who goes. RusFed seems to be keen on supporting Liza, Sasha has injury but is said to be back to training… Aliona is out with injury and Maia is unlikely to beat both. It’s possible one of em will go to Olympics the other to worlds or something I don’t know. If Sasha weren’t injured and had all her quads it’d be a different story of course - she would displace Anna or Liza most likely.
@@cipriancoman5098 if you’re watching it for one person then you’re not really a fan of the sport overall and they’re addressing the fan of the sport. No hate to Sasha I love her, just my sense as to why they do not need to cater to the fans of any one athlete IMO
@@1chienandalou no offense, it was just a little joke… As long as they have made a strange mix between an objective analysis and what they want, why shouldn't I be entitled to say what I think / want? Can anyone deny that when Sasha Trusova is in competition, the bar is very high by default? and you have to sit very well in your chair…🤣
As much as i love to see yuzu making history with the 3rd OGM but i have to agree this is pretty spot on. Aside from yuzu, this is going to be everyone's first OGM right?
I think most of your predictions are spot on. Ice Dance will be the tough one for Silver and Bronze. We can only hope the judging is fair. I expect to see Chock and Bates in the top 5, also LOVE the programs from Smart and Diaz as well. Lets just send the medals to IAM and let them fight over them!
Let's not count the Brits out of a possible top 5 either! They were 6th at the last worlds. Smart/Diaz have been great this season 2, and like the Brits, have been hugely improving season to season.
If it’s my dream Olympics Men - Nathan gold . Vincent or Shoma silver. Kolyada with a perfectly clean White Crow bronze. Women - agree with your choice. Even though I would like Shcherbakova first but even in my dream it’s impossible to beat Valieva 😂 Pairs - agree with your choice. Dance - Papadakis/Cizeron gold, Chock/Bates silver, Bukin/Stepanova bronze.
I see Yuma getting on the podium, and I think Nathan should actually be worried. I honestly don't think anyone can beat M/G if they skate cleanly, based solely on their tech points. But my hope is actually for T/M to skate cleanly and take it. I just don't think S/H look like they have any fight this season, and the cut of the free isn't inspiring. I think the ladies podium is spot on, but don't count Anna out for gold if Kamila has a bout of nerves. As for dance - you're crazy if you think S/K aren't getting silver. You're correct that they don't deserve a medal, but politics will get them closer to P/C than they deserve. I see Piper and Paul getting bronze, but my hope would be C/B. H/D's programs are crap this year and they have no point of view as a team.
C/B I think have an amazing program and fantastic theme. My worry is that the judges won’t give it to them because of that unique theming. They might take H/D’s FD as it is more contemporary. For pairs, I think S/H might have home country bias with them. But I do think M/G could rival if both skate clean. I agree with both your mens and womens comments
I totally agree with all of your predictions except dance. I think it will the French, Russians and then the Americans. Unfortunately, I don't think the Canadians will make podium this time
I think that all is possible because there are more new factors that can envy in this olimpic games, but often I think that forecasts are more hopes that reality, and every countries and every fan has justification or right to hope that the favorite skater win; I'm not of USA, I'm not Japanese; Nathan could win with 8 or 10 or 15 jumps, but never he will transmit the emotion that Hanyu is able to do; Olimpic games are more an affair of money, the beauty of skating is another thing.
Yeah, I'm sorry but Nathan's skating makes me feel something while Yuzuru's does not. You're entitled to your personal opinion because different things move different people but pls refrain from speaking for everyone. And why does it matter what nationality you are? An opinion is still just an opinion. If you're insinuating that only people from the US like/favor Nathan then you're wrong because he has fans from all over the world too, including Japanese fans. I would imagine most people who have been watching figure skating the past quad(at least those who are willing to be honest) will feel he is the favorite in Beijing. Now, being the favorite doesn't guarantee he's going to win, only that he's 'most likely to'. It certainly doesn't mean that Yuzuru can't somehow win.
@@divinearia1601--------I'm agree with you than this is my opinion, not a fact; but also predictions in never a fact, but a prevision based on differents situation; personally I think that Nathan can be phisically more stronger than Hanyu, but in the sense of music, the speed and agility in movement, interpration of music, research of artistic innovation, there is a very deep abyss between Hanyu and every other skater; personally Nathan doesn't transmit to me nothing only the absolutely desire to win, nothing else; certainly this is my opinion like for your
@@divinearia1601 I did not take this comment to insinuate any such thing. I interpreted this was their opinion. Course you are entitled to your opinion. They are entitled to theirs.. I am American and I respect Nathan tremendously but I don’t really particularly feel moved by his programs either. Yes I do feel wow when he jumps. But that’s about it. Hanyu performance is mesmerizing throughout, in a way that is something else. I’ve been skating and watching skating for 35 years and Hanyu is very special to me among men. Actually I enjoy Shoma more than Nathan too when he is on a good day. I don’t have to be Japanese for that. For ladies, i’m not Russian or Japanese, but I can’t point to a single American skater that is even close to those right now. No not Alyssa. Not even when she’s on a good day I don’t she will ever be my favorite. Even if she brings back her axel and speeds up her skating… A lot of people love that smile on her face calling joy of Skating… but to me it looks pasted on, for example. Some people have a style that touches you more and some don’t. I can respect those people and truly adore others. I sometimes go back and watch old programs where maybe the technical difficulty was less but the programs had more time and then like for holding a spiral for a few seconds for example because I like the feeling. Some people prefer to watch difficult jumps others prefer old-school - everybody’s different. You do you, and I don’t think the OP spoke for everybody at all. Regards.
@@1chienandalou...what they said was: "Nathan could win with 8 or 10 or 15 jumps, but never he will transmit the emotion that Hanyu is able to do." There was no "to me" or "in my opinion" anywhere. It was simply stated as if it was a fact. You are absolutely entitled to all your opinions and to favor whoever you want, but I disagree with you, and I don't care what nationality you are. As I already said, not all of Nathan's fans are American so I don't expect that Yuzuru's or Shoma's would all be Japanese. My point was that it isn't at all a fact that Nathan isn't able to transmit emotion. It's about personal preference, and that's why different fanbases exist. FYI, Nathan fans aren't fans of him solely for his jumps. People shouldn't be making such silly assumptions like that. We love his general skating and his style of artistry.
agree with all your picks. Not a fan of Sinitsina/Katsalapov and find them extremely overscored, this season's programs are tasteless imo, but unfortunately I think the chances are they are silver contenders.
The last Olympic was too much pressure to Nathan Chen, i Hope this time he would do great. But theres skaters would be suprisingly at the podium Yuma and theres still the great Yuzu Hanyu and dont forget Shoma Uno Or other males who are predictable on Ice. Dylan Malcovich had this 80’s ballader vibes...Asher Hill always a brilliant host.
Most men don't win gold in there first Olympics. The last three American Olympic Gold Medalist all won in their second. So I think Chen is in good shape.
I think you're on point, except I suspect Japan's Yuma Kagiyama will be 3rd. Of course, if Mikhail Kolyada is clean for both programs, the judges will medal him. I wonder what deals will be made between judges and in which competitions... hmm....(thoughts?) . Obvi a women's sweep is likely, but it's no secret Russia wants a men's medal too (here comes of the over scoring LOL).
I have no idea who's going to end up on the men's podium. There are so many skaters with such great momentum heading to the Games. Nathan is still looking strong, although I'm worried about his 4Lz. He's fallen on it twice in the SP at back-to-back international events, and even if he manages to rebound and have a skate similar to Worlds, that mistake could cost him gold if the other men skate up to their full potential. Yuzu is a wild card, but he's the one person who can beat Nathan in a SP right now. He could also finish fifth or sixth with a poor skate. Shoma is riding a wave in his return to glory, but he's still been a little sloppy and inconsistent. Vincent was really making a name for himself after Skate America, but his URs and issues at NHK can really hinder him. However, it probably didn't help that he had to compete at Nebelhorn and will hopefully be in top shape in time for the Olympics. Yuma's the only podium contender who didn't compete at the last Olympics, and is on the perfect trajectory in terms of his season and peaking to medal if he can keep his nerves under control. Misha has been struggling jump-wise, but if he can turn things around with the return of Nureyev he can always challenge for the podium. So that's what, six men and three Olympic medals? And since it's the men, we're guaranteed an extra side of chaos and drama!
Don't understand figure skating at all, I believe Nathan is really strong, but...Never followed figure skating, until, accidentally, saw one of Yuzuru' s performances. I tried really hard to watch Nathan's as well, couldn't really get into it. Just skating from here and there+ jumps. The magic did not happen. Yeh, you might be right and Nathan deserves the medal, but
IF trusova can land 3a and atleast 4 quads, then i think she'll be unbeatable or if she lands all 5 quads then i think she'll still win. Honestly, it'll be between Kami and Sasha for first at this point
Trusova has never landed 3A in competition she tried repeatedly at the beginning of this season and is now injured. She only did 1 quad at SkAm. This is unrealistic.
@@shmyshmys she did one quad while being injured and came first. She went from 12th to THIRD PLACE at worlds. She had landed all 5 at test (ik it’s not a real competition) but if she can do that again. It is not unrealistic, Sasha is good at surprising us. We’ll just have to wait and see, she is back to training now.
I can see the wish but it is not gonna happen is it? She doesn’t have a triple axel at the moment and she never had a consistent one and 4 quads I am not sure she can manage with injury. Let’s see if she is able to go. Kamila’s programs (with 3A and quads and high GOE and PCS) are hard to beat at all. And how you omit Anna? She has quads and can beat Sasha even without them, whether you like it or not, and is mentally very strong in competition even when she falters and also has the high PCS whereas Sasha struggles a lot mentally in competition. I love Sasha and I am not at all a hater, just looking at the facts neutrally. I wish she hadn’t gotten injured because she was definitely improving everything and on a good track to be a very strong contender for silver or possibly give Kamila a challenge for gold if she messes up
@@oyinolubayo7079 Olympic champ should never have been 12th in the first place is another way to look at it. And they gave her stretch (or possibly out of stretch) scores to squeeze her into bronze that day if you remember (or pay attention if you haven’t). I don’t know what will happen and go to nationals. It will be interesting to see who they send. But I don’t think they liked what happened in that event at all and unfortunately Sasha is no longer their quads darling, now there is Kamila… sadly it is how things go.
@@1chienandalou I’ll stay quiet and just see what happens at nationals. Sasha is back to training now and says she’s fine. B4 she withdrawaled she was able to land that quad and her other jumps while injured and now she says she better and back to training. So what’s to say she won’t be able to do what she did at test(or maybe she might reduce the 5 quads to 3, who knows) . It seems like u have kind of just written her off. Doesn’t matter anyways as you know in figure skating….anything can happen.
I’m strong Yuzu fan, but I agree with men prediction. But not gonna lie, I would love to see Yuzu on top again if possible) And maybe put Yuma on list for podium as well. And about women: I agree again. I love Sasha, but think team would be Kamila, Anna, Liza. And I think low key Kamila/Anna situation looks a lot like Zagitova/Medvedeva… Hope it will turn out not that dirty at the end… But I root for Kamila the same I was rutting for Alina 4 years ago)
I think you're pretty realistically on the money with everything but ice dance. But your ice dance list is my dream list so, thank you! Sadly, I think that since they left Russians off the podium in 2018, that if they leave them off the podium again next year, there's going to be hell to pay somewhere.
again, Russia is most likely to take gold in the team event....so....but i would really like to see S/K off the podium (I am mean😄) but i also think it is unlikely to happen...
@@insi4547 I was speaking of the individual events. I don't think Russia winning the team event would satisfy them if they didn't get on the podium in ice dance. And I'm right there with you about not wanting Sinitsina/Katsalapov on the podium. They're way overrated, and I'm not impressed with them. They're skating just does not move me.
I love the discussion of the possible winners for the podium by Dylan and Asher. All of the athletes have worked so hard despite injuries and challenges during this tough pandemic time. Hope you will consider to discuss the best costume list, music choices and the coaches partnership with the athletes (top predicted winners on the podium) in your next episode. That will be fun, educational and entertaining for the fans who cannot go to Beijing Olympic to support their favorite athletes.
I love you both so much. I love your ice dance predictions. When ice dancers reach this elite level, they are all lovely and beautiful, but let's get real, a lot of the judging is political. Some couples are underscored and there are some whose scores are WAY, WAY inflated. I have loved Gilles and Poirer for many years. I wish you two could do commentating at the Olympics. I love your point of view. Suggestion: Less over-the-top laughing at things that really aren't that funny.
There is not a skater right now who has demonstrated such strength, talent and ability in executing difficult jumping passages. While retaining such consistency in toppling their own high caliber of marks as Kamila Valieva. This young woman skates with so much precision and discipline, it’s hard to believe that she’s only 15 years old. Valieva has no real challenger right now. Even among the extraordinary field of Eteri’s young female league . She is in a class by herself and is artistically flawless. As well as technically proficient. I honestly cannot see her being defeated. Even by quad Queen, Sasha Trusova. Whose signature skill is landing quad jumps but lacks the artistic beauty of both Valieva and Scherbakova. As for Scherbakova, she has been having difficulty executing clean programs. After recovering from injuries. What’s more, she doesn’t have a triple axel in her arsenal to defeat Kamila.
Men - Yuma is a superstar in the making, and I expect him on the podium if he’s clean. But agree it’s Nathan’s to lose. Ladies - agree, Valieva leading a Russian sweep. Pairs - agree. Dance - SinKats will be on the podium. Team - Agree
With the candies he gets nathan is likely to win sadly. I just Wish that 6 quad is Not just a jump drill. But what am I saying, he'll get the points anyway as always...
@@divinearia1601 yes getting +5s in goe with jumps that dont hit the necessary bulletpoints is what i would consider getting candies. Outside the stepsequence and the choreo sequence does He do much besides checking off the element? As he upps the number of quads he tends to throw choreo out the window. Ask yourself this Question: If a Skater from a small federation (eg indonesia) skated the exact same programme with the exact same Performance quality would they get the same score?
@@Sayu277...give me a specific example of Nathan getting an undeserved +5 in GOE and we can discuss the bullet points. First off, you exaggerate so much with your "jump drill" comment, I can't even take you seriously. Secondly, as ALL skaters up their number of quads, they tend to throw more transitions out the window. That's not unique to Nathan. You'd be lying to yourself if you believe that. Yuzuru left off some of his transitions in his 5 quad program at the 2019 GPF, and even his stamina could hardly deal with it. The performance became a mess. Point is, trading out some unnecessary transitions for quads is the perfectly logical thing to be doing in a system where quads are weighed so much more heavily. If you're unhappy with the rules and the system, go talk to the ISU. Nathan is merely doing what he needs to do in order to win a competition. You can't blame him. If the other skaters were capable of doing quads as well as Nathan, you bet they'd all be doing the same thing: more quads, less difficult transitions. A comparison of how silly your complaint is: in basketball, shooting the ball into a hoop is how you win and you're all upset that Nathan is focusing most of his attention on shooting the ball into the hoop and complaining about how he isn't doing more fancy footwork when he's dribbling. I can guarantee that if skating was more about transitions and not about the jumps, Nathan would be focused on transitions. I'm not going to make any assumption about how much some unknown skater from some other federation would get if they did the same program to the same quality of Nathan. I do think that if they did get a lower score, it would be more-so because they are a no-name skater, not because of their country. All the super star skaters have this "star power" advantage though, Yuzuru included. It isn't exclusive to Nathan.
@@divinearia1601 Sorry to but in but your basketball story is a prime example of not understanding the scoring system in figure skating. There are much more complex rules and variables in this sport. The total score for each program consists of 2 sets of marks: technical and components. Technical score consists of the elements' base values and grades of execution. Base value means the more difficult the element, the higher the score. It is similar to what you explained in your basketball story with shooting the ball into a hoop. Just basic addition of numbers. Goe is about quality (not quantity). Then components are divided into 5 categories - skating skills, transitions, performance, interpretation and composition. So your basketball story starts to fall apart big. That fancy footwork while dribbling actually gets counted in figure skating, either as a step preceding an element (goe bullet) and/or transition and/or composition and/or even performance depending how a skater presents it. It makes the program exponentially more difficult in various aspects: stamina, concentration, control of speed/pattern, balance, synchronization with music. And it is no secret the more base value oriented the program is the more likely it is going to lack in choreography. Some skaters are better at technique and some at components. Nothing new under the sun. So the scoring system should assure that the most balanced performance of the day can actually win. As you may have noticed nobody complains about Chen's high base value. The complaints are about his high goe and components. And thankfully, most people do not blame Chen himself but the broken system.
I think there is a little chance for Canada for bronze at the team event but just in case the pairs will be improved and the men show consistency. Any way nothing is lost yet.
It's Nathan VS himself in the men's for that Olympic gold, IMO. I don't know what it is with the 4Lz in the SP, but it has been giving him a little bit of a fit. He does fine with it in the FP so I really think it's just a mental thing at this point. If all he's after is a gold medal, he could easily play it safe by taking out the 4Lz and just doing a 4F, 3A, 4T+3T. It seems he wants a little piece of Olympic history in breaking his personal best records in the SP, FP, and total though so he may decide to stick with that risky 4Lz, 3A, 4F+3T layout.
@@pado_hyuck...he can do the 4Lo but it's not a jump he does all that often or one he would choose to put into a program. In general, he doesn't favor edge jumps, and I'm sure he's only even bothering with the 4Lo in the FP because he has to have it in order to do 6 quads. The 4F and 4T, though, are super reliable for him. Anyway, doing a 6 quad program is _NOT_ an easy task now with the rule changes after 2018. You have to maintain 5 different types of quads at the same time and that's nearly an impossible task for any skater(similar to how nearly impossible a 4A is). Usually, when you're doing a 5 quad program, you have a little more option to switch out a jump if one doesn't seem to be working. When aiming for a 6 quad program though, you have zero choices(unless you'd rather throw in a 4A)...so if Nathan can accomplish a 6 quad program at the Olympics with 5 different types of jumps, it would be quite an amazing feat and make Olympic history.
What a prediction! You are a true fan of figure skating. Your comments are the most professional, always spot on and supported by facts and evidence. Thank you.
@@user-u7m4s...I think it's funny and very interesting that Nathan fixed his 4Lz issue by making his jump layout more difficult. He did the 4F first then put the 4Lz with the 3T in the back end of the program. Impressive way to go about it.
I HIGHLY support giving gold, silver and bronze medals to the top three best ice dance teams in the world. Sinitsina and Katsolopov are NOT in the top three in a fair and unbiased competition if everyone else skates clean. I'm crossing my fingers the judges will choose the Olympics to start judging skating the way it was meant to be judged.
Men’s FS: I TOTALLY disagree with your prediction for gold and silver and I think Nathan and Hanyu should switch. While I agree that Nathan has improved himself a ton since 2018, I think that silver might be his best bet, or fourth or fifth finishing behind the Japanese. I would be very sad to not see Hanyu at the games, but I would understand if his injury recovery would not allow it. I think the podium belongs to the Japanese in this order. Here are my predicted results. Yuzuru Hanyu (if he ends up competing in Beijing) Shoma Uno Yuma Kagiyama Shun Sato Nathan Chen Jason Brown Vincent Zhou On the other hand, anything can happen! The Americans might take the podium (1. Chen, 2. Brown, 3. Zhou). Who knows! All I know is, I see Chen scoring really high at the games, but I still believe that no one performs better than the Japanese, especially the GOAT Yuzuru Hanyu! Women’s FS: I agree with the Russian sweep. I would just put (in no particular order) Karen Chen, Alyssa Liu and Amber Glenn underneath the Russian women, but like I said, anything can happen!
@@lindatannock really?! Interesting ok! I like your thought process. It’s hard to choose three American women from the five candidates. I just chose those three because I wasn’t aware of the other two but now that I am, I’m worried for all five! However I do want Karen Chen to go, but the other two I’m not so sure. I’m not too familiar with the Japanese women but I’m sure they’re beautiful women!
You either know little about figure skating or are extremely biased and unable to recognize that. If Nathan doesn’t make a mistake he wins Gold. It’s that simple. No one can compete with him if he is error free, even Yuzuru. On the ladies the Japanese women will most likely come in after the Russians. The US women will he further down.
I’m confused by your comment. You say Nathan should come after the Japanese but then that the Americans could win the whole thing? I guess you’re trying to say that subjectively you think that the Japanese skaters are better? Because the scoring has to take into account certain things and Nathan has all those quads and if he lands them he will get a certain score that will be hard to beat. For me Hanyu is sublime and moving and amazing. I really like the other Japanese male (and female) skaters as well, though Uno had a few off seasons. Nathan is a great athlete and I respect him tremendously, but I don’t feel the same way about his artistry as Hanyu. So in that sense for me gold is Hanyu. But I can see him losing and he sometimes does. Maybe you’re saying something like that. For women, the only skaters that I see who are even close to the Russians or the Japanese. I do not consider Alysa Liu close. She may have that sometimes triple axel but she is comparatively slow and low. Karen Chen is a very elegant skater, but it’s not enough and I don’t think she’s going. Amber Glenn isn’t even on my radar to compare with the Russians. (Not hating, in fact I am American, but sport is sport)
After the summer games these empty arenas will be a tough watch. Fortunately it’s a stacked field so the comps should be good. My only prediction is shady, back channel scoring in pairs between China and Russia.
Id like to see Liza do as best as possible but I find her getting silver unlikely. Anna is very strong in competition even when she messes up, and she has done well even without or without few quads in the past as she gets very high GOEs and PCS (both deserved and inflated). Liza does sometimes mentally falter, although this year she is kicking. Of course anything can happen with people getting injured etc.
omg i cant even watch when asher laughs every 5 seconds its annoying omg chill out .... but overall agree with most predictions besides the dance the russians will be on the podium unless they make mistakes
@@asherhill4790 ha ha you are great but chill laughing every 30 seconds is a deduction according to I.S.U rules and regulations!.... just insert a laugh track after every comment then you dont even have to review anyone just laugh but atleast you are having fun but its enough... you should get into comedy you would do great :) cheers
Agree, barring any injuries, it will be Valieva, Shcherbakova and Tuktamysheva for the Russian Olympic Team. If Chalk and Bates do what they are capable of and are not underscored, they should be on the podium. Same with Cain-Gribble and LeDuc.
I don’t think so. They are great and I love their rhythm dance this year but they are far behind some of the other pairs in SS (not hating, just look at completely objective measurable things like speed ice coverage depth of edge, all of these things are part of the score and what keeps other pairs ahead of them in competitions). And ice dance is super competitive this year. P&C will not not medal. And I think S&K will medal too. Then I think H&D are more likely than C&B as they have been winning so far - I really don’t like their rhythm dance but their free is very nice and they have very strong technical and skating skills compared to C&B (actually they are better than most of the other pairs). I think C&B could come 4th or 5th depending on how the Canadians do/are scored. I like C&L as well! Gosh the Brits have a great pair too… And Spain.. And S&B are likely to score pretty high too.. It is so competitive this year even after the medals!
If you guys are right about mens podium (which I agree with tbh), I think that'll be the first time the podium is all Asian origin men right? That's pretty cool!
Also, she is her mother, yes but they don’t train with Tut (of whom I am not a hater by the way, at all! Your comment is just nonsensical in this competitive of an ice dance season)
I don't know if I like THS presentation.... I am more a Jenny Kirk and Dave Lease TSL kinda boy.... Hummm....sorry really I came here to compliment Dillon on his "Robin Hood" singles free skate from years back.🥰
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As much as I think everyone would love that its very unlikely. If it were Kamila and Sasha or Sasha and Anna she were competing with it would likely but Kamila is so hard to beat with that program and Anna is mentally very strong competitor and doesn’t falter easily and that would be the way Liza could sneak the silver. but you never know! Let’s see who is even going to go!
These are some wishful podium spots. The Russians will medal in ice dance even if they just hold their opening pose for 4 minutes while the music plays. I like your pairs pick, i hope against hope it happens. Sui and hahn are 10 points better pcs than g/m. If a russian team has to win, im hoping for t/m, they look so improved this year with classic speed and lines. Scherbakova for gold (nerves of steel), and Trusova definitely makes team. She will rotate 5 quads at russian nationals, wont matter if she lands em (like worlds last year). Edited to add: kagiyuma is the sleeper dark horse to medal - so smooth and consistent and 'olympic' gladiator music. I predict we dont even see yuzuru.
Are you trolling? Not sure where you’re coming from. Is smiling and laughing a crime where you live? They were wonderfully upbeat in a time of doom and gloom! You can take them seriously because of their credentials, dude!
The officials are boycotting. Why should the athletes?! The Olympics are a non-political sports event. These athletes have trained for years for this moment. Why should THEY lose out on what they've worked so hard for?! It's not their fault a bad venue was chosen 🤷🏼♀️.
Right….so all those athletes who have worked so hard their whole life should have to suffer consequences then? The officials are already boycotting it, I really hope you aren’t talking about the actual athletes. I mean would t it makes sense to push for them to hold the Olympics somewhere else rather than just people not going?
@@lindatannock I have to agree. I’ve already suffered so much. Many careers have been tortured. They likely are stressed with uncertainty even still. No need politicize Olympics any more than it has to be. There’s enough problems in the world. Let sports be sports
Trusova is the strongest in character. we saw that in the usa. she is the only way to get gold with a fracture. she will perform even in pain. She has a goal and she will go to the end. Good luck to her.
Sadly, risking one’s health in order to achieve Olympic gold serves no real purpose at the end of the day. Both the physical and psychological pain endured by athletes especially throughout this grueling field often leaves indelible scars upon extremely young athletes. Which will linger on for years.
I'm suprised that Liza is being seriously considered for the team. Sasha will never give away her spot, even though she is injuired. She landed one quad in Vegas with an injured foot and she will land more at the nationals. There is too much at stake here.
She was 3rd in Worlds. What makes her unworthy of being chosen? It's not about what you "can" do, it's about consistency, and the Empress has been bringing it all season!
Sasha finished 12th the short at Worlds last year and 1st in the free. What does that tell you? Inconsistency. She can win and she can falter. It all depends on the quads. Anna and Kamila should be shoe ins. Sasha isn’t.
@@totesgene she made a massive mistake in the short, which put her in 12th and then only connected with a few quads in the free and still got the bronze. I love Liza but she’s just not up with the top Eteri girls
@@simmons6190 I agree from a technical standpoint.
She lost to Lisa and if you don't remember, Sasha took 3rd place and Lisa took 2nd place at the World Championships. What else don't you understand?
This Olympic is NATHAN and KAMILA GAME IF BOTH SKATERS SKATE TO THEIR POTENTIAL , I THINK IT WILL BE HARD FOR ANYBODY TO BEAT THEIR SCORES.
Man: I am Hanyu's fan here and hope he win (that would be fantastic). But let's be real. Nathan is so strong both mentally and physically. I think Yuzuru will win SP and Nathan will win LP and the all event. Yuma may be in the podium if some top skaters make mistakes.Woman: totally agree. Anna may win if Kamila messes up (like the way Nathan did in 2018). Pairs: I hope Sui - Han will win. They must not make any mistake. And know nothing about Dance.
Plus nates US passport
@@Sayu277...man, if only all it took to win a gold was a US passport, I'd be an Olympic Champion too. I wonder why all these other US skaters can't win gold. Let me guess: unlike Nathan, they keep forgetting their passports?
@@divinearia1601 the Passport does help not to get calls, pcs caps and to skate jump drills while still getting those pcs point. Plus it helps with hitting the bullet points for goe.
@@Sayu277...PCS is pretty subjective at times due to personal standards and preferences but if you'd rather blame that on a passport, fine. Same with GOEs. And what you call "jump drills" isn't something that should work against one in PCS as long as they have all the required elements because there is no specific requirements for number of transitions. All you have to do is enough for what your music is calling for. If a skater chooses to do way more transitions than necessary, that's their problem. Nobody ever promised them bonus pts for being the skater to do the most.
@@divinearia1601 goe have clearly outlined bulletpoints in the rulebook any skater has to hit to recieve those goe.
As to pcs those outlines may be a tad less clear than goe but they are still there (even If the judges seem to incompetent or overworked to follow them)
I love your podiums! I’ll be shocked if that dance podium happens, but sooooo happy!
Thank you Chris!
The most exciting competitions will be the pairs and ice dancing. My pick is Sui and Han for gold. The 2 - 4 places are between the 3 russian pairs who are so good any mistakes will change the standings. The ice dancing politics keep the suspense going for the top standings. The audience must watch the judges as much as the performances.
"The audience must watch the judges as much as the performances." That's such a good point Robbin.
Ain’t that the truth!
You two are spot on for the men - however, I see the brilliant Yuma sneaking up on that podium as well :)
I totally agree
I think vincent will grab silver. let's see though what happens at 4 continents and nationals.
@@vistaprime Vincident for silver with all his qs and
@@turtlefeesh stranger things have happened.
I think Yuma is more likely to make the podium than Vincent or Shoma. I'd even root for Yuma to be OGM but that's on Nathan's hands right now. My prediction for Pairs is pretty much same as yours. Ice dance I think H/D gonna end up 4th with S/K taking the silver (unfortunately lol). Women's I'd expect Kamila, Anna, and Tuk
I agree that bronze in the Team event is 'reserved' for Japan but they can even aim for the silver. JPN Women and Pairs can outskate the US contenders, their men will most likely outskate RU but not the US, however it is points not total performance score being summed, so it does not matter that Nathan wins by 100+ margin😬..it all comes down to how high among the 10 teams and in the FS -among the 5 - the lovely JPN dance team is placed. And if that difference for the US is enough to compensate for the [potential] ladies and pairs advantage JPN might have over them.
There is also the factor that Nathan might not want to do the team event with it being so close to the men's SP.
At the same time, K/F imo aren't worse than the Japanese pair and if they skate clean (though that's a big if) they can outscore the Japanese.
@@rvsone1629 ok, looking at the scores: R/K medaled at both grand prix assignments (208.2 and 209.42 in total score) while K/F best on grand prix (🥉) was 201.69. I think they might be around the same level, but if both skate clean, the Japanese would still place higher (imo)
Regarding Nathan- agree👍
My impossible list to win.but damn I love them..
For ladies - Anya
For Men - Yuzu
For Ice dance - Stepanova/Bukin
See 🙈🙈 impossible but still my dream 💖
Hmmm yea I don’t think so :)
I am loving these lists! Got some things to add.
1.) DO NOT COUNT YUMA OUT! Although his Grand Prix competitions weren’t as competitive, I really think there is some star power in him. He is the reigning World silver medalist and he can be a dark horse.
2.) If Rika is back, healthy, and skates clean with her triple axel and quad sal, she can really disrupt this Russian sweep for the podium.
3.) I really think that Japan might take silver for the team event because we know that they are strong in men and women (no matter who are their representatives) but the addition to the pairs team triumphs the US that is pretty much relying on mens and ice dance.
4.) Kolyada is bringing back white crow!!! If he can bring the same magic that program had last season and even improve on it, I think he can be another contender
5.) for pairs and ice dance, I think these are going to be the most exciting. I think the top 2 for pairs are locked (don’t know positions but I would prefer Sui/Han) but that 3rd place spot is so interesting. For ice dance, the French team is a lock to win as long as they keep the magic. But 2nd and 3rd are a big mix, the Russian teams, the us teams, the Canadians, and THE ITALIAN TEAM~
Figure skating is so exciting right now. I am so excited for the Olympics!!!
Agree with Yuma. He has a star power, and only nerves will keep him off the podium.
Thanks for watching! And your points are valid! Can't wait to see if Yuma shakes things up. And would love to see Rika disrupt the Russian dominance in women's singles. Countdown is on!
Trusova is the strongest in character. we saw that in the usa. she is the only way to get gold with a fracture. she will perform even in pain. She has a goal and she will go to the end. Good luck to her.
Thank uuu, idk I found it a bit odd that they didn’t even consider trusova for at least 3rd place when they were doing their predictions for the ladies. I mean at worlds she would have easily beaten Liza if it wasn’t for the fact that she landed in 12th after her short. If she had landed in….lets say 10th and did how she did in her free she could have been second and maybe in first in worlds if she had landed just one more quad in her free. Like I mean who else do u know can go from 12th place to 3rd…wow. And also yea Sasha has not yet landed all 5 quads at an actual competition but at test skates she did it amazingly, if she does that at nations I mean cmon…who’s score would be able to beat her 5 quads. I wish her all the best though and great recovery. And I am waiting to see if she will attempt her 5 quads at nationals or if she will reduce it (probably to 3) but if she does attempt 5 I really hope she lands all of them to prove people wrong lol.
i think that the women's podium will have Valieva, Shcherbakova, and Trusova but maybe not in that order depending on Trusova and her quads.
russia will be on the ice dance podium weather we like it or not. the judges seem to really like them and they are the most recent world champions.
I definitely like your picks..especially the prediction for dance!! It is about time someone..or someones..make the case that S/K have been propped up!! ty! Love you guys!
In the Ice Dance, it'll be: Gold - the French team. Silver - Sinitsina & Katsolopov. 3rd might be Hubbell & Donohue. Madison Hubbell gives off a very STIFF posture compared to the other ladies.
H&D I think will medal bronze or possibly even silver depending on S&K. I don’t like their rhythm dance but I was surprised how much I like their free
hold up!!
"miss 'rona has decided to change outfits again"....
that is the most awesome line EVER!!! 💕
i WILL be using that!!! 🤗
Asher Hill is truly a poet. No one like him.
I did not see an Alexandra Trusova mention for the ladies! If she makes the team she is certainly a contender for the podium.
in fact, they forgot to mention that many will not be interested in women's competition if Trusova will not be there...🤣
@@cipriancoman5098 seriously. I mean they kind of just completely dismissed her. This girl went from 12th to 3rd place at worlds. Had she landed one more quad she would have definitely been second, maybe in first. And she landed all at test skates imagine she does that at world lol. She performed on an injury at US and still became first. It’s crazy they didn’t mention her. I hope she has an amazing recovery and proves them wrong. I mean she just mentioned she’s back to training. :)
@@oyinolubayo7079 they said this is what they like. So I guess they prefer Liza. It’ll be quite interesting to see who goes. RusFed seems to be keen on supporting Liza, Sasha has injury but is said to be back to training… Aliona is out with injury and Maia is unlikely to beat both. It’s possible one of em will go to Olympics the other to worlds or something I don’t know. If Sasha weren’t injured and had all her quads it’d be a different story of course - she would displace Anna or Liza most likely.
@@cipriancoman5098 if you’re watching it for one person then you’re not really a fan of the sport overall and they’re addressing the fan of the sport. No hate to Sasha I love her, just my sense as to why they do not need to cater to the fans of any one athlete IMO
@@1chienandalou no offense, it was just a little joke… As long as they have made a strange mix between an objective analysis and what they want, why shouldn't I be entitled to say what I think / want?
Can anyone deny that when Sasha Trusova is in competition, the bar is very high by default? and you have to sit very well in your chair…🤣
IM SUPER SUPER GOOD IN PREDICTIONS. SOOOOOO
W: Kamila-Anna-Sasha
M: Nathan-Yuzu-Yuma
P: MG-SH-TM
D: PC-SK-PP
As much as i love to see yuzu making history with the 3rd OGM but i have to agree this is pretty spot on. Aside from yuzu, this is going to be everyone's first OGM right?
The pair competition is ongoing now ... Love you guys !
Maybe Mishina Gallimov will win, but my heart belongs to Sui Han ... 🤍
I think most of your predictions are spot on. Ice Dance will be the tough one for Silver and Bronze. We can only hope the judging is fair. I expect to see Chock and Bates in the top 5, also LOVE the programs from Smart and Diaz as well. Lets just send the medals to IAM and let them fight over them!
Let's not count the Brits out of a possible top 5 either! They were 6th at the last worlds. Smart/Diaz have been great this season 2, and like the Brits, have been hugely improving season to season.
@@lindatannock I know! Ice dance is very competitive this year !!
If it’s my dream Olympics
Men - Nathan gold . Vincent or Shoma silver. Kolyada with a perfectly clean White Crow bronze.
Women - agree with your choice. Even though I would like Shcherbakova first but even in my dream it’s impossible to beat Valieva 😂
Pairs - agree with your choice.
Dance - Papadakis/Cizeron gold, Chock/Bates silver, Bukin/Stepanova bronze.
I see Yuma getting on the podium, and I think Nathan should actually be worried. I honestly don't think anyone can beat M/G if they skate cleanly, based solely on their tech points. But my hope is actually for T/M to skate cleanly and take it. I just don't think S/H look like they have any fight this season, and the cut of the free isn't inspiring.
I think the ladies podium is spot on, but don't count Anna out for gold if Kamila has a bout of nerves.
As for dance - you're crazy if you think S/K aren't getting silver. You're correct that they don't deserve a medal, but politics will get them closer to P/C than they deserve. I see Piper and Paul getting bronze, but my hope would be C/B. H/D's programs are crap this year and they have no point of view as a team.
C/B I think have an amazing program and fantastic theme. My worry is that the judges won’t give it to them because of that unique theming. They might take H/D’s FD as it is more contemporary.
For pairs, I think S/H might have home country bias with them. But I do think M/G could rival if both skate clean.
I agree with both your mens and womens comments
So fun and you know your stuff. Thanks guys!
I totally agree with all of your predictions except dance. I think it will the French, Russians and then the Americans. Unfortunately, I don't think the Canadians will make podium this time
Yeah I expect this too
SASHA TRUSOVA, MY HEART IS WITH YOU, YOU'LL MAKE IT GIRL
I think that all is possible because there are more new factors that can envy in this olimpic games, but often I think that forecasts are more hopes that reality, and every countries and every fan has justification or right to hope that the favorite skater win; I'm not of USA, I'm not Japanese; Nathan could win with 8 or 10 or 15 jumps, but never he will transmit the emotion that Hanyu is able to do; Olimpic games are more an affair of money, the beauty of skating is another thing.
Yeah, I'm sorry but Nathan's skating makes me feel something while Yuzuru's does not. You're entitled to your personal opinion because different things move different people but pls refrain from speaking for everyone. And why does it matter what nationality you are? An opinion is still just an opinion. If you're insinuating that only people from the US like/favor Nathan then you're wrong because he has fans from all over the world too, including Japanese fans. I would imagine most people who have been watching figure skating the past quad(at least those who are willing to be honest) will feel he is the favorite in Beijing. Now, being the favorite doesn't guarantee he's going to win, only that he's 'most likely to'. It certainly doesn't mean that Yuzuru can't somehow win.
@@divinearia1601--------I'm agree with you than this is my opinion, not a fact; but also predictions in never a fact, but a prevision based on differents situation; personally I think that Nathan can be phisically more stronger than Hanyu, but in the sense of music, the speed and agility in movement, interpration of music, research of artistic innovation, there is a very deep abyss between Hanyu and every other skater; personally Nathan doesn't transmit to me nothing only the absolutely desire to win, nothing else; certainly this is my opinion like for your
@@divinearia1601 I did not take this comment to insinuate any such thing. I interpreted this was their opinion. Course you are entitled to your opinion. They are entitled to theirs.. I am American and I respect Nathan tremendously but I don’t really particularly feel moved by his programs either. Yes I do feel wow when he jumps. But that’s about it. Hanyu performance is mesmerizing throughout, in a way that is something else. I’ve been skating and watching skating for 35 years and Hanyu is very special to me among men. Actually I enjoy Shoma more than Nathan too when he is on a good day. I don’t have to be Japanese for that. For ladies, i’m not Russian or Japanese, but I can’t point to a single American skater that is even close to those right now. No not Alyssa. Not even when she’s on a good day I don’t she will ever be my favorite. Even if she brings back her axel and speeds up her skating… A lot of people love that smile on her face calling joy of Skating… but to me it looks pasted on, for example. Some people have a style that touches you more and some don’t. I can respect those people and truly adore others. I sometimes go back and watch old programs where maybe the technical difficulty was less but the programs had more time and then like for holding a spiral for a few seconds for example because I like the feeling. Some people prefer to watch difficult jumps others prefer old-school - everybody’s different. You do you, and I don’t think the OP spoke for everybody at all. Regards.
@@1chienandalou...what they said was: "Nathan could win with 8 or 10 or 15 jumps, but never he will transmit the emotion that Hanyu is able to do." There was no "to me" or "in my opinion" anywhere. It was simply stated as if it was a fact. You are absolutely entitled to all your opinions and to favor whoever you want, but I disagree with you, and I don't care what nationality you are. As I already said, not all of Nathan's fans are American so I don't expect that Yuzuru's or Shoma's would all be Japanese. My point was that it isn't at all a fact that Nathan isn't able to transmit emotion. It's about personal preference, and that's why different fanbases exist. FYI, Nathan fans aren't fans of him solely for his jumps. People shouldn't be making such silly assumptions like that. We love his general skating and his style of artistry.
you guys are the best!
Good choices and agree with your picks. Pretty spot on, great job!
agree with all your picks. Not a fan of Sinitsina/Katsalapov and find them extremely overscored, this season's programs are tasteless imo, but unfortunately I think the chances are they are silver contenders.
Totally agree-I can't see S/K not getting a medal (even though I really am not a fan of either of their programs)
The last Olympic was too much pressure to Nathan Chen, i Hope this time he would do great. But theres skaters would be suprisingly at the podium Yuma and theres still the great Yuzu Hanyu and dont forget Shoma Uno Or other males who are predictable on Ice. Dylan Malcovich had this 80’s ballader vibes...Asher Hill always a brilliant host.
Most men don't win gold in there first Olympics. The last three American Olympic Gold Medalist all won in their second. So I think Chen is in good shape.
I think you're on point, except I suspect Japan's Yuma Kagiyama will be 3rd. Of course, if Mikhail Kolyada is clean for both programs, the judges will medal him. I wonder what deals will be made between judges and in which competitions... hmm....(thoughts?) . Obvi a women's sweep is likely, but it's no secret Russia wants a men's medal too (here comes of the over scoring LOL).
In 2018 everybody said Nathan will win OGM.
No, just not everybody, honey ....
I have no idea who's going to end up on the men's podium. There are so many skaters with such great momentum heading to the Games. Nathan is still looking strong, although I'm worried about his 4Lz. He's fallen on it twice in the SP at back-to-back international events, and even if he manages to rebound and have a skate similar to Worlds, that mistake could cost him gold if the other men skate up to their full potential. Yuzu is a wild card, but he's the one person who can beat Nathan in a SP right now. He could also finish fifth or sixth with a poor skate. Shoma is riding a wave in his return to glory, but he's still been a little sloppy and inconsistent. Vincent was really making a name for himself after Skate America, but his URs and issues at NHK can really hinder him. However, it probably didn't help that he had to compete at Nebelhorn and will hopefully be in top shape in time for the Olympics. Yuma's the only podium contender who didn't compete at the last Olympics, and is on the perfect trajectory in terms of his season and peaking to medal if he can keep his nerves under control. Misha has been struggling jump-wise, but if he can turn things around with the return of Nureyev he can always challenge for the podium. So that's what, six men and three Olympic medals? And since it's the men, we're guaranteed an extra side of chaos and drama!
You're on the money - it's going to be a wild race to that men's podium. Can't wait.
Don't understand figure skating at all, I believe Nathan is really strong, but...Never followed figure skating, until, accidentally, saw one of Yuzuru' s performances. I tried really hard to watch Nathan's as well, couldn't really get into it. Just skating from here and there+ jumps. The magic did not happen. Yeh, you might be right and Nathan deserves the medal, but
IF trusova can land 3a and atleast 4 quads, then i think she'll be unbeatable or if she lands all 5 quads then i think she'll still win. Honestly, it'll be between Kami and Sasha for first at this point
Trusova has never landed 3A in competition she tried repeatedly at the beginning of this season and is now injured. She only did 1 quad at SkAm. This is unrealistic.
@@shmyshmys she did one quad while being injured and came first. She went from 12th to THIRD PLACE at worlds. She had landed all 5 at test (ik it’s not a real competition) but if she can do that again. It is not unrealistic, Sasha is good at surprising us. We’ll just have to wait and see, she is back to training now.
I can see the wish but it is not gonna happen is it? She doesn’t have a triple axel at the moment and she never had a consistent one and 4 quads I am not sure she can manage with injury. Let’s see if she is able to go. Kamila’s programs (with 3A and quads and high GOE and PCS) are hard to beat at all. And how you omit Anna? She has quads and can beat Sasha even without them, whether you like it or not, and is mentally very strong in competition even when she falters and also has the high PCS whereas Sasha struggles a lot mentally in competition. I love Sasha and I am not at all a hater, just looking at the facts neutrally. I wish she hadn’t gotten injured because she was definitely improving everything and on a good track to be a very strong contender for silver or possibly give Kamila a challenge for gold if she messes up
@@oyinolubayo7079 Olympic champ should never have been 12th in the first place is another way to look at it. And they gave her stretch (or possibly out of stretch) scores to squeeze her into bronze that day if you remember (or pay attention if you haven’t). I don’t know what will happen and go to nationals. It will be interesting to see who they send. But I don’t think they liked what happened in that event at all and unfortunately Sasha is no longer their quads darling, now there is Kamila… sadly it is how things go.
@@1chienandalou I’ll stay quiet and just see what happens at nationals. Sasha is back to training now and says she’s fine. B4 she withdrawaled she was able to land that quad and her other jumps while injured and now she says she better and back to training. So what’s to say she won’t be able to do what she did at test(or maybe she might reduce the 5 quads to 3, who knows) . It seems like u have kind of just written her off. Doesn’t matter anyways as you know in figure skating….anything can happen.
I’m strong Yuzu fan, but I agree with men prediction. But not gonna lie, I would love to see Yuzu on top again if possible) And maybe put Yuma on list for podium as well.
And about women: I agree again. I love Sasha, but think team would be Kamila, Anna, Liza. And I think low key Kamila/Anna situation looks a lot like Zagitova/Medvedeva… Hope it will turn out not that dirty at the end… But I root for Kamila the same I was rutting for Alina 4 years ago)
You haven’t even mentioned Trusova. How?
I think you're pretty realistically on the money with everything but ice dance. But your ice dance list is my dream list so, thank you! Sadly, I think that since they left Russians off the podium in 2018, that if they leave them off the podium again next year, there's going to be hell to pay somewhere.
again, Russia is most likely to take gold in the team event....so....but i would really like to see S/K off the podium (I am mean😄) but i also think it is unlikely to happen...
@@insi4547 I was speaking of the individual events. I don't think Russia winning the team event would satisfy them if they didn't get on the podium in ice dance. And I'm right there with you about not wanting Sinitsina/Katsalapov on the podium. They're way overrated, and I'm not impressed with them. They're skating just does not move me.
I love the discussion of the possible winners for the podium by Dylan and Asher. All of the athletes have worked so hard despite injuries and challenges during this tough pandemic time. Hope you will consider to discuss the best costume list, music choices and the coaches partnership with the athletes (top predicted winners on the podium) in your next episode. That will be fun, educational and entertaining for the fans who cannot go to Beijing Olympic to support their favorite athletes.
Thank for watching Rachel! Will definitely try to make those suggestions happen, if not before the Olympics maybe during or after! Stay tuned!
I love you both so much. I love your ice dance predictions. When ice dancers reach this elite level, they are all lovely and beautiful, but let's get real, a lot of the judging is political. Some couples are underscored and there are some whose scores are WAY, WAY inflated. I have loved Gilles and Poirer for many years. I wish you two could do commentating at the Olympics. I love your point of view. Suggestion: Less over-the-top laughing at things that really aren't that funny.
I agree. All that giggling was so annoying!
These two are too giggly and girlish to be taken as serious commentators.
Interesting you left off mens 2021 world silver medalist Yuma Kagiyama. Definitely a dark horse for the podium.
There is not a skater right now who has demonstrated such strength, talent and ability in executing difficult jumping passages. While retaining such consistency in toppling their own high caliber of marks as Kamila Valieva.
This young woman skates with so much precision and discipline, it’s hard to believe that she’s only 15 years old. Valieva has no real challenger right now. Even among the extraordinary field of Eteri’s young female league
. She is in a class by herself and is artistically flawless. As well as technically proficient. I honestly cannot see her being defeated. Even by quad Queen, Sasha Trusova. Whose signature skill is landing quad jumps but lacks the artistic beauty of both Valieva and Scherbakova.
As for Scherbakova, she has been having difficulty executing clean programs. After recovering from injuries. What’s more, she doesn’t have a triple axel in her arsenal to defeat Kamila.
I think the mens will be a similar to the worlds this year, Nathan, Yuzuru and Yuma.
Men - Yuma is a superstar in the making, and I expect him on the podium if he’s clean. But agree it’s Nathan’s to lose.
Ladies - agree, Valieva leading a Russian sweep.
Pairs - agree.
Dance - SinKats will be on the podium.
Team - Agree
Agreed Abbi - Yuma could very well make a podium push, especially if the others don't skate clean. But... we will see. Thanks for watching!
Yuzuru Hanyu for history making 3rd GOLD medal.
With the candies he gets nathan is likely to win sadly. I just Wish that 6 quad is Not just a jump drill. But what am I saying, he'll get the points anyway as always...
Because doing 6 quads is so easy, it's like "being handed candies", right?
@@divinearia1601 yes getting +5s in goe with jumps that dont hit the necessary bulletpoints is what i would consider getting candies.
Outside the stepsequence and the choreo sequence does He do much besides checking off the element? As he upps the number of quads he tends to throw choreo out the window.
Ask yourself this Question: If a Skater from a small federation (eg indonesia) skated the exact same programme with the exact same Performance quality would they get the same score?
@@Sayu277...give me a specific example of Nathan getting an undeserved +5 in GOE and we can discuss the bullet points. First off, you exaggerate so much with your "jump drill" comment, I can't even take you seriously. Secondly, as ALL skaters up their number of quads, they tend to throw more transitions out the window. That's not unique to Nathan. You'd be lying to yourself if you believe that. Yuzuru left off some of his transitions in his 5 quad program at the 2019 GPF, and even his stamina could hardly deal with it. The performance became a mess.
Point is, trading out some unnecessary transitions for quads is the perfectly logical thing to be doing in a system where quads are weighed so much more heavily. If you're unhappy with the rules and the system, go talk to the ISU. Nathan is merely doing what he needs to do in order to win a competition. You can't blame him. If the other skaters were capable of doing quads as well as Nathan, you bet they'd all be doing the same thing: more quads, less difficult transitions. A comparison of how silly your complaint is: in basketball, shooting the ball into a hoop is how you win and you're all upset that Nathan is focusing most of his attention on shooting the ball into the hoop and complaining about how he isn't doing more fancy footwork when he's dribbling. I can guarantee that if skating was more about transitions and not about the jumps, Nathan would be focused on transitions.
I'm not going to make any assumption about how much some unknown skater from some other federation would get if they did the same program to the same quality of Nathan. I do think that if they did get a lower score, it would be more-so because they are a no-name skater, not because of their country. All the super star skaters have this "star power" advantage though, Yuzuru included. It isn't exclusive to Nathan.
@@divinearia1601 Sorry to but in but your basketball story is a prime example of not understanding the scoring system in figure skating. There are much more complex rules and variables in this sport.
The total score for each program consists of 2 sets of marks: technical and components. Technical score consists of the elements' base values and grades of execution.
Base value means the more difficult the element, the higher the score. It is similar to what you explained in your basketball story with shooting the ball into a hoop. Just basic addition of numbers.
Goe is about quality (not quantity). Then components are divided into 5 categories - skating skills, transitions, performance, interpretation and composition.
So your basketball story starts to fall apart big. That fancy footwork while dribbling actually gets counted in figure skating, either as a step preceding an element (goe bullet) and/or transition and/or composition and/or even performance depending how a skater presents it. It makes the program exponentially more difficult in various aspects: stamina, concentration, control of speed/pattern, balance, synchronization with music. And it is no secret the more base value oriented the program is the more likely it is going to lack in choreography. Some skaters are better at technique and some at components. Nothing new under the sun. So the scoring system should assure that the most balanced performance of the day can actually win.
As you may have noticed nobody complains about Chen's high base value. The complaints are about his high goe and components. And thankfully, most people do not blame Chen himself but the broken system.
Sadly, you’re clueless if you think Nathan only wins because of his quads.
I think there is a little chance for Canada for bronze at the team event but just in case the pairs will be improved and the men show consistency. Any way nothing is lost yet.
I am not able to dislike you, guys ,,,
It's Nathan VS himself in the men's for that Olympic gold, IMO. I don't know what it is with the 4Lz in the SP, but it has been giving him a little bit of a fit. He does fine with it in the FP so I really think it's just a mental thing at this point. If all he's after is a gold medal, he could easily play it safe by taking out the 4Lz and just doing a 4F, 3A, 4T+3T. It seems he wants a little piece of Olympic history in breaking his personal best records in the SP, FP, and total though so he may decide to stick with that risky 4Lz, 3A, 4F+3T layout.
Another layout idea could be 4L, 4F+3T, and 3A as he seems to be adding the 4L to his FS and his success rate has been good on it
@@pado_hyuck...he can do the 4Lo but it's not a jump he does all that often or one he would choose to put into a program. In general, he doesn't favor edge jumps, and I'm sure he's only even bothering with the 4Lo in the FP because he has to have it in order to do 6 quads. The 4F and 4T, though, are super reliable for him.
Anyway, doing a 6 quad program is _NOT_ an easy task now with the rule changes after 2018. You have to maintain 5 different types of quads at the same time and that's nearly an impossible task for any skater(similar to how nearly impossible a 4A is). Usually, when you're doing a 5 quad program, you have a little more option to switch out a jump if one doesn't seem to be working. When aiming for a 6 quad program though, you have zero choices(unless you'd rather throw in a 4A)...so if Nathan can accomplish a 6 quad program at the Olympics with 5 different types of jumps, it would be quite an amazing feat and make Olympic history.
What a prediction! You are a true fan of figure skating. Your comments are the most professional, always spot on and supported by facts and evidence. Thank you.
@@user-u7m4s...I think it's funny and very interesting that Nathan fixed his 4Lz issue by making his jump layout more difficult. He did the 4F first then put the 4Lz with the 3T in the back end of the program. Impressive way to go about it.
Sasha.. gold, silver and bronze, like an iceberg, her best is yet to be seen
I HIGHLY support giving gold, silver and bronze medals to the top three best ice dance teams in the world. Sinitsina and Katsolopov are NOT in the top three in a fair and unbiased competition if everyone else skates clean. I'm crossing my fingers the judges will choose the Olympics to start judging skating the way it was meant to be judged.
Ok birdbrains with Yuzu 4A, now what do you think???
Men’s FS: I TOTALLY disagree with your prediction for gold and silver and I think Nathan and Hanyu should switch. While I agree that Nathan has improved himself a ton since 2018, I think that silver might be his best bet, or fourth or fifth finishing behind the Japanese. I would be very sad to not see Hanyu at the games, but I would understand if his injury recovery would not allow it. I think the podium belongs to the Japanese in this order. Here are my predicted results.
Yuzuru Hanyu (if he ends up competing in Beijing)
Shoma Uno
Yuma Kagiyama
Shun Sato
Nathan Chen
Jason Brown
Vincent Zhou
On the other hand, anything can happen! The Americans might take the podium
(1. Chen, 2. Brown, 3. Zhou).
Who knows! All I know is, I see Chen scoring really high at the games, but I still believe that no one performs better than the Japanese, especially the GOAT Yuzuru Hanyu!
Women’s FS: I agree with the Russian sweep. I would just put (in no particular order) Karen Chen, Alyssa Liu and Amber Glenn underneath the Russian women, but like I said, anything can happen!
I put the Russian women followed by the Japanese women (with maybe 1 US woman sneaking in there somewhere)
@@lindatannock really?! Interesting ok! I like your thought process. It’s hard to choose three American women from the five candidates. I just chose those three because I wasn’t aware of the other two but now that I am, I’m worried for all five! However I do want Karen Chen to go, but the other two I’m not so sure. I’m not too familiar with the Japanese women but I’m sure they’re beautiful women!
You either know little about figure skating or are extremely biased and unable to recognize that.
If Nathan doesn’t make a mistake he wins Gold. It’s that simple. No one can compete with him if he is error free, even Yuzuru.
On the ladies the Japanese women will most likely come in after the Russians. The US women will he further down.
Not possible. You have 4 Japanese men on the list and only 3 can go to the Olympics.
I’m confused by your comment. You say Nathan should come after the Japanese but then that the Americans could win the whole thing? I guess you’re trying to say that subjectively you think that the Japanese skaters are better? Because the scoring has to take into account certain things and Nathan has all those quads and if he lands them he will get a certain score that will be hard to beat. For me Hanyu is sublime and moving and amazing. I really like the other Japanese male (and female) skaters as well, though Uno had a few off seasons. Nathan is a great athlete and I respect him tremendously, but I don’t feel the same way about his artistry as Hanyu. So in that sense for me gold is Hanyu. But I can see him losing and he sometimes does. Maybe you’re saying something like that.
For women, the only skaters that I see who are even close to the Russians or the Japanese. I do not consider Alysa Liu close. She may have that sometimes triple axel but she is comparatively slow and low. Karen Chen is a very elegant skater, but it’s not enough and I don’t think she’s going. Amber Glenn isn’t even on my radar to compare with the Russians. (Not hating, in fact I am American, but sport is sport)
Good predictions. Agree on all 4 golds
I agree, with the comment about too much giggling, some stuff is okay for entertainment value, but let's keep it real and focused on skating. Sharon
Yuzu forever ^^
I thought you guys would place Yuma Kagiyama on the podium. I'm surprised.
PCS..
@@maryloureiff6489 His PCS is already at 45 for the sp and 90 for the fs.
@@evanperilstein5308 ?
@@maryloureiff6489 That's plenty high enough to be on the podium and similar to what Shoma and Vincent have been getting for PCS this season.
@@evanperilstein5308 I think his second mark is too high. That is what I meant. Chor, PE, Int, etc..
After the summer games these empty arenas will be a tough watch. Fortunately it’s a stacked field so the comps should be good. My only prediction is shady, back channel scoring in pairs between China and Russia.
nathan chen should win based on talent and skills; i pick yuma kagiyama to win silver
Reverse your #1 & 2... But yes a Russian Sweep is extremely probable eh? :)
Also Anna was only a couple points ahead of Eliza lol so I could see her beating Anna if Anna doesn't land all her quads or flutz
Id like to see Liza do as best as possible but I find her getting silver unlikely. Anna is very strong in competition even when she messes up, and she has done well even without or without few quads in the past as she gets very high GOEs and PCS (both deserved and inflated). Liza does sometimes mentally falter, although this year she is kicking. Of course anything can happen with people getting injured etc.
I'm curious to know if you still put Anna in second after Russian nationals.
omg i cant even watch when asher laughs every 5 seconds its annoying omg chill out .... but overall agree with most predictions besides the dance the russians will be on the podium unless they make mistakes
Sorry for making joyful noises. Will try and be more bitter next time 😘
@@asherhill4790 ha ha you are great but chill laughing every 30 seconds is a deduction according to I.S.U rules and regulations!.... just insert a laugh track after every comment then you dont even have to review anyone just laugh but atleast you are having fun but its enough... you should get into comedy you would do great :) cheers
Agree, barring any injuries, it will be Valieva, Shcherbakova and Tuktamysheva for the Russian Olympic Team. If Chalk and Bates do what they are capable of and are not underscored, they should be on the podium. Same with Cain-Gribble and LeDuc.
I don’t think so. They are great and I love their rhythm dance this year but they are far behind some of the other pairs in SS (not hating, just look at completely objective measurable things like speed ice coverage depth of edge, all of these things are part of the score and what keeps other pairs ahead of them in competitions). And ice dance is super competitive this year. P&C will not not medal. And I think S&K will medal too. Then I think H&D are more likely than C&B as they have been winning so far - I really don’t like their rhythm dance but their free is very nice and they have very strong technical and skating skills compared to C&B (actually they are better than most of the other pairs). I think C&B could come 4th or 5th depending on how the Canadians do/are scored. I like C&L as well! Gosh the Brits have a great pair too… And Spain.. And S&B are likely to score pretty high too.. It is so competitive this year even after the medals!
Valieva, Trusova Shcherbakova,
Trusova can’t beat Scherbakova at the moment I don’t think. If she gets to go
I wonder what are predictions now, after the Nationals
If you guys are right about mens podium (which I agree with tbh), I think that'll be the first time the podium is all Asian origin men right? That's pretty cool!
You two feel good just laughing laughing laughing
I think it's gonna be a gold medal Tutberidze sweep. Kamila 🥇, Morisi 🥇, Tarasova & Morozov 🥇 Diana Davis and her background dancer 🥇
? Davis and the guy who carries their team are not even going are they? If they do they have zero chance to medal
Also, she is her mother, yes but they don’t train with Tut (of whom I am not a hater by the way, at all! Your comment is just nonsensical in this competitive of an ice dance season)
I don't know if I like THS presentation.... I am more a Jenny Kirk and Dave Lease TSL kinda boy.... Hummm....sorry really I came here to compliment Dillon on his "Robin Hood" singles free skate from years back.🥰
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For the ladies it’s a no-brainer. The Russians will sweep the podium.
I can see Tuks sneaking up and grabbing silver, if she can make the team.
As much as I think everyone would love that its very unlikely. If it were Kamila and Sasha or Sasha and Anna she were competing with it would likely but Kamila is so hard to beat with that program and Anna is mentally very strong competitor and doesn’t falter easily and that would be the way Liza could sneak the silver. but you never know! Let’s see who is even going to go!
My predictions France USA Russia. Gold silver bronze
This, I think, but Russians might squeeze into silver. (USA = H&D; C&B might come 4th, though it’s gonna be close even after the bronze!)
How do you queens know? They have not even skated yet
These are some wishful podium spots. The Russians will medal in ice dance even if they just hold their opening pose for 4 minutes while the music plays. I like your pairs pick, i hope against hope it happens. Sui and hahn are 10 points better pcs than g/m. If a russian team has to win, im hoping for t/m, they look so improved this year with classic speed and lines. Scherbakova for gold (nerves of steel), and Trusova definitely makes team. She will rotate 5 quads at russian nationals, wont matter if she lands em (like worlds last year). Edited to add: kagiyuma is the sleeper dark horse to medal - so smooth and consistent and 'olympic' gladiator music. I predict we dont even see yuzuru.
Totally disagree.
I think Anna will beat kamila.
How?
If Dylan gets any hotter with that hair, I'm going to have to start watching him while I'm in the shower so I can cool off!!!
Agree.
Dances Russians will be on podium 100%
Yeah I think so as well but they said what they said about it you know…
tne mouvments of canadian Piper Gilles and Poirier are so non-estetical It's horrible
I can’t agree with this comment. However they have a couple of lifts that they are still working on it looks like.
lol at not having any Russians at ice dance podium
Yeah not gonna happen but they said what they said about it yah?
Boycott Beijing 2022 Olympic. Support Human Rights.
No. Sasha no 1, Kamila no 2. Tuktamysheva won't make the team.
That sounds like a lot of hopium
@@1chienandalou Looks like it more or less happened...
First time watching you guys ... nothing serious coming out from you ... you should change jobs
The discussion is cringe worthy. The way they laugh... I can't take them seriously.
Are you trolling? Not sure where you’re coming from. Is smiling and laughing a crime where you live? They were wonderfully upbeat in a time of doom and gloom! You can take them seriously because of their credentials, dude!
I love the giggles!!🤭☺
@@susanlange5003 Thanks for the support Susan!
What "an expert" @Rick Cruz ! Just tell us what the results will be ! I'm really curious...
The 2022 Olympics should be boycotted by the entire world.
Your comment makes me deeply, deeply sad, because I agree with it.
You should shut up maybe?
The officials are boycotting. Why should the athletes?!
The Olympics are a non-political sports event. These athletes have trained for years for this moment. Why should THEY lose out on what they've worked so hard for?! It's not their fault a bad venue was chosen 🤷🏼♀️.
Right….so all those athletes who have worked so hard their whole life should have to suffer consequences then? The officials are already boycotting it, I really hope you aren’t talking about the actual athletes. I mean would t it makes sense to push for them to hold the Olympics somewhere else rather than just people not going?
@@lindatannock I have to agree. I’ve already suffered so much. Many careers have been tortured. They likely are stressed with uncertainty even still. No need politicize Olympics any more than it has to be. There’s enough problems in the world. Let sports be sports
Boycott Beijing 2022. Don't sleep with the evil.
I will not watch these two again. They are not professional and the giggling was just was not necessary.
You guys are full of BS! Sorry but someone has to say it! Myopic!
The disrespect. Ugh!
What direspect, honey ?
You knew there is a "direspect", but you don't know "what direspect" ?
Soooo sad .... 😭
Trusova is the strongest in character. we saw that in the usa. she is the only way to get gold with a fracture. she will perform even in pain. She has a goal and she will go to the end. Good luck to her.
It's sad though, these girls end up retiring by 21. Their bodies go through so much.
Sadly, risking one’s health in order to achieve Olympic gold serves no real purpose at the end of the day. Both the physical and psychological pain endured by athletes especially throughout this grueling field often leaves indelible scars upon extremely young athletes. Which will linger on for years.