Loved the video! As a GIS person with the 13 pro I was excited to get a general model of my yard using LiDAR. Great to hear from a surveying prospective
It is really awesome to see this type of video. I still remember the forums back in 2020 full a surveyors excited and asking if it will be possible to measure accurate and make workflows using just your iPhone’s lidar. The answer was yes and obviously it is the same proven workflow we had for years with conventional equipment. I really hope we get to the point where surveying equipment will be much more accesible ($$$).
Also, which software apps are you using to: 1. Capture the scans on the iPhone 13 Pro 2. Process the scanned point clouds on your computer? 3. Register the different scans into one big scan Thanks!
Very nice About the GCPs, we've now added support for the viDoc RTK, it's a much cheaper solution to existing devices, and you can measure GCPs in the app. Not only that, we also use it during capture to get much better initial results
At 6:44 when you talk about making layers, is the iPhone good enough to distinguish between ground and ground cover? If I could create a micro elevation of the soil under my lawn and garden that would be very helpful for fixing a drainage problem. I'm thinking of resolution to 1/4-inch. Would more passes with the iPhone give better resolution. Criss-cross patterns? Spiral patterns?
What is the app you are using on the iPhone? I have android, but this ability is intriguing. I am the GPS machine control model builder and topo guy at my company and if I could get stock pile quantities with an iPhone over physically taking every shot with gps, this could be beneficial.
You have some pretty cool videos. Wondering how a noob like me can use some of what you show to practical use. I'm looking to buy some land and many of the plots are not level. I don't want to replace having a proper survey but might want to eliminate some properties from my search. So, how can I use the lidar of my iPhone to let me know the elevations I may have across different areas of my property? Definitely not buying AutoCad.
Hi sir hope you’re doing great !! I just want to know, that is there any course which is related to the use of lidar technology in building construction? On Coursera or on any other platform, or you can teach us like surveying, levelling, etc. Of roads and building by using iPhone 15 pro. That would be very helpful sir. Thanks for giving me your precious time!!
hey Rami, i have a question. How accurate is the gnss app and rtk rover integrated as one compared to a normal base station and rover set up? I saw in your video you use the gnss app and rtk rover to collect ground control points, but i always wondered how precise is that set up, is it similar to the leica gs18I tilt compensation rtk rover?
hey tamimi. can you make a video about the dji phantom 4 pro rtk drone connected to the cors station by the ppk method. then the photos from the drone already have global coordinates. do comparison correction if not tied to gcp
HYD Spindle is movable, use a bonnet bolt on the HYD. then call out which bolt is used for the benchmark! Just a tip. I sometimes use a chisel to make an XCUT in the bonnet bolt, but DPW is not a fan of this.
Rami greetings from Peru, I would like to know if you know if the lidar of the iphon was tested in a closed environment such as a salon to know if it also registers it. Thank you
Can I do an accurate merge of the scanning projects into one with out GCP? Just with the iphone and perhaps using a DJI gimbal? Great content mate! Greetings from Paraguay!!
Rami, thanks for sharing your videos, they are amazing. I wonder if the sensor is able for mapping topographic surfaces in shallow water (1-2 feet for example) from above the surface, of course. Have you tested it already?
What about Vidoc pix4d? The rtk antena to use with iPhone lidar? Do you know a cheaper vidoc antena or rtk phone solution? 3d scanner app just got updated with many new features!
Hi Tamini. wich do you prefer? Iphone or Ipad, when we need better precision in industrial work? which scanner device to attach to Apple do you recommend? can you help me with a good device for this that does not cost so much
Rami, great work, thank you! I am curious if you were to mount the phone to say a camera tripod and do the scans from fixed points. If it would improve the data. This would mean the data relied less on the IMU to keep track of all erratic movements. Thoughts?
Awesome video. This is great information... my application would be for metal detecting if like regular Lidar it could spot areas that used to have buildings on them. I'd also like to get a new drone that has this built in.
iPhone 13 Pro, but you can use any iPhone with a LiDAR Sensor. I used the Pix4Dcatch app. And no, you simply hit the shutter button once and it begins collecting data.
I love this video, I am just curious if any other phone can be used like this. I have been a fan of Samsung always, the RTK surveys we do seem to go a lot smoother whenever I am running a hotspot off of my Samsung vs my coworkers Iphone. I am due for an upgrade and would love to go for the note 10 or the s20 plus because they may have similar 3d modeling abilities. Is an attempt at a Topographic survey like this only possible with an iphone or would one of the android models be capable of this as well?
Very good technology. Im cartographer tecnician. I am very happy that the technology has advanced so much.With this technology, GPS and many other measuring devices can be history. It would be great if there is a feature to give coordinates to the area measured with the camera.
I'm a drone mapper, and you can do that with an RTK PPK drone such as the autel evo 2 pro RTK. It's pretty great at creating ground control points with quite remarkable accuracy and giving coordinates outside of the control points. Often within a few cm 🤙 pretty expensive setup and software though
Thanks for the video. I’m an architect and I use Revit 3D software for my design work. I’ve done about ten projects using a (expensive) Faro scanner and can import the point cloud using Autodesk’s Recap software. How can the iPhone’s scans be imported into Revit? That would be a real gamer-changer!
If you use Autodesk flow of work it should be an ease. All point clouds can be exported in .laz and you can import .laz files into recap. Maybe more relevant questions would be if accuracy and georeferencing is important to you?. For real projects accuracy are often a must and iPhones do not have the accuracy you need for that. Then you have a project that is not really attached to any coordinate systems unless you establish ground control points and measure them physically (that requires a gnss receiver). I would definitely give this a go for preliminary sketches/ideas, preliminary existing conditions that do not require accuracy. I would concentrate my efforts on small projects since the iPhone can only do so much on bigger sites (larger files tend to be a problem).
Hey @Rami Tamimi I have a question for you... Using the iPhone LiDAR can we measure the volume of a big boulder??? If we can please make video about it please.
Is it legal for a person who is not a licensed surveyor to provide data to a surveyor? I'm in NC, which has statutes on the subject if that makes any difference. Your content is great at any rate.
@@RamiTamimi everything looks better in feet 🤣 I haven't realize the iPhone was using gnss with Lidar, which means that with an external simple rtk receiver we could possibly achieve stunning results while highly reducing drift... I don't know how those apps work but they clearly use some kind of sensor fusion algorithm between lidar odometry and gnss... They're really one tiny step away from getting awesome results with the aid of an external device. Real-time would be a little bit trickier but post processing would definitely be easy. There's probably no market for that for anyone to get their hands on it though. Thanks for the test, it's always interesting anyway.
I'm in the surveying business and this technology is both good and bad, i have ran into surveyors in new york that clearly use technology like this and when we go back to the subject property the client is wondering why the results are so different. This type of work needs to be done at centimeter level accuracy but some surveyors are abusing the fast and easy yet not accurate technology like this and producing legal documents.
while I dont know if its better, I do use an ipad pro. 11" 2020 model. Its better if you have to make annotations while also take scans, bigger screen plus pencil.
The fact that you give out that Information for free is just amazing. Thank you!
Loved the video! As a GIS person with the 13 pro I was excited to get a general model of my yard using LiDAR. Great to hear from a surveying prospective
Cool. May I know what app were you using to scan to produce the point cloud?
What is the name of the app?
It is really awesome to see this type of video. I still remember the forums back in 2020 full a surveyors excited and asking if it will be possible to measure accurate and make workflows using just your iPhone’s lidar. The answer was yes and obviously it is the same proven workflow we had for years with conventional equipment. I really hope we get to the point where surveying equipment will be much more accesible ($$$).
Also, which software apps are you using to:
1. Capture the scans on the iPhone 13 Pro
2. Process the scanned point clouds on your computer?
3. Register the different scans into one big scan
Thanks!
Was wondering the same thing regarding the phone application.
Very informative. Which scanning application have u used for scanning?
Very nice
About the GCPs, we've now added support for the viDoc RTK, it's a much cheaper solution to existing devices, and you can measure GCPs in the app. Not only that, we also use it during capture to get much better initial results
accuracy to what level is it to cms?
Hello Rami, pretty cool job you did there. One question..which app are you using for capturing the point cloud?
It's amazing this tech is so readily available. I feel bad for not buying an iPad with LiDAR when they first came out!
Awesome video Rami, you are seeking answers for questions a lot of people have!
Absolutely amazing what technology can do. Will be interesting to see how surveying evolves over the next decade. Really neat video!
You and me both! Thanks for the kind words.
At 6:44 when you talk about making layers, is the iPhone good enough to distinguish between ground and ground cover? If I could create a micro elevation of the soil under my lawn and garden that would be very helpful for fixing a drainage problem. I'm thinking of resolution to 1/4-inch. Would more passes with the iPhone give better resolution. Criss-cross patterns? Spiral patterns?
Mind blown. How cool is this. Thanks Rami for putting this together
Hi Rami , could you share with us the app. that used in iphone for scanning?
Rami, thanks for your video. What app do you use to make the photos?
What is the app you are using on the iPhone? I have android, but this ability is intriguing. I am the GPS machine control model builder and topo guy at my company and if I could get stock pile quantities with an iPhone over physically taking every shot with gps, this could be beneficial.
You have some pretty cool videos. Wondering how a noob like me can use some of what you show to practical use. I'm looking to buy some land and many of the plots are not level. I don't want to replace having a proper survey but might want to eliminate some properties from my search. So, how can I use the lidar of my iPhone to let me know the elevations I may have across different areas of my property? Definitely not buying AutoCad.
What is the application with which you use the mobile and the rtk gps. congratulations for the videos
For the scanning I used Pix4dCatch, and for the GNSS I used Emlid Reachview 3
@@RamiTamimi hi! I can’t work with those apps. Could you please show us how to.
Hi, thanks for the practical examples. Always interesting. Can you tell me what APP you used for scanning?
of course no problem. Pix4dCatch
BRO! Wow, nothing for the average Joe\Jane! Lol. It was fun to watch, you're content was fire!
Hi sir hope you’re doing great !! I just want to know, that is there any course which is related to the use of lidar technology in building construction? On Coursera or on any other platform, or you can teach us like surveying, levelling, etc. Of roads and building by using iPhone 15 pro. That would be very helpful sir. Thanks for giving me your precious time!!
Love Your Stuff Rami. I have a 13 Max with Catch, just not getting it right. Can you do a settings and how to export video,
This is awesome, Rami. Curious if any of your work/experimentation with the iPhone LiDAR sensor has made its way into your academic research?
Very good! How the apple meter acurate?
brother you must put more option of payment methods in your survey shirt website such as VISA I could not purses items from Saudi Arabia!
You would make a great LS. I enjoyed watching this video. Thank you and happy 2022!
I really appreciate that. Soon, very soon!
Rami ur videos are excellent . can u make more videos by using iphone 15 pro max in the field of civil engineering field problems
Would be nice if you make Acquired data available, just for practice purposes
hey Rami, i have a question. How accurate is the gnss app and rtk rover integrated as one compared to a normal base station and rover set up? I saw in your video you use the gnss app and rtk rover to collect ground control points, but i always wondered how precise is that set up, is it similar to the leica gs18I tilt compensation rtk rover?
hey tamimi. can you make a video about the dji phantom 4 pro rtk drone connected to the cors station by the ppk method. then the photos from the drone already have global coordinates. do comparison correction if not tied to gcp
Great idea. Expect this video in the Spring.
How about doing wooded land, more useful example for developers
HYD Spindle is movable, use a bonnet bolt on the HYD. then call out which bolt is used for the benchmark! Just a tip. I sometimes use a chisel to make an XCUT in the bonnet bolt, but DPW is not a fan of this.
What app are you using to scan?
Rami greetings from Peru, I would like to know if you know if the lidar of the iphon was tested in a closed environment such as a salon to know if it also registers it. Thank you
can u mount on drone to plot map of proposed A to B robotaxi? then mount back to robotaxi for further naviation autonomously using mapped data?
Can I do an accurate merge of the scanning projects into one with out GCP? Just with the iphone and perhaps using a DJI gimbal? Great content mate! Greetings from Paraguay!!
Rami, thanks for sharing your videos, they are amazing. I wonder if the sensor is able for mapping topographic surfaces in shallow water (1-2 feet for example) from above the surface, of course. Have you tested it already?
What about Vidoc pix4d? The rtk antena to use with iPhone lidar?
Do you know a cheaper vidoc antena or rtk phone solution?
3d scanner app just got updated with many new features!
If you had more GCP, over lapping scans, would that increase the accuracy?
Of course, in the future videos I am going to try increasing the accuracy of the project.
Hi Tamini.
wich do you prefer? Iphone or Ipad, when we need better precision in industrial work? which scanner device to attach to Apple do you recommend? can you help me with a good device for this that does not cost so much
Wonder if the accuracy could be increased if using a DJI iPhone gimbal to stabilise the iPhone better when scanning?
Honestly even having the scans would help tremendously with drafting surveys done in the field.
Yes, this data as a supplement would be great!
Does the RTK unit on the Mavic 3 Enterprise make a difference with out a base station?
Please explain the concept of least count in PHOTOGRAMMETRY !!!
Does it exists or not?!????
Rami, great work, thank you! I am curious if you were to mount the phone to say a camera tripod and do the scans from fixed points. If it would improve the data.
This would mean the data relied less on the IMU to keep track of all erratic movements. Thoughts?
So there is no IMU in the iPhone. We could introduce one coupled with an RTK Antenna.
@@RamiTamimi is ppk a possibility with the Emlid?
Hello Rami! Did you check the 14 PRO? Is there an upgrade to the Lidar Scanner? Could the new gyroscope improve the Lidar accuracy?
Awesome video. This is great information... my application would be for metal detecting if like regular Lidar it could spot areas that used to have buildings on them. I'd also like to get a new drone that has this built in.
Great suggestion!
Maybe I missed it but do you explain what softwares you are using in this video? (Scan software, data processing software, etc)
What iPhone model and software are you using. Does the software have you hold the shutter open or take snapshots?
iPhone 13 Pro, but you can use any iPhone with a LiDAR Sensor. I used the Pix4Dcatch app. And no, you simply hit the shutter button once and it begins collecting data.
@@RamiTamimi Sir, May I ask are there any skills of holding the iPhone to get better result?
I love this video, I am just curious if any other phone can be used like this. I have been a fan of Samsung always, the RTK surveys we do seem to go a lot smoother whenever I am running a hotspot off of my Samsung vs my coworkers Iphone. I am due for an upgrade and would love to go for the note 10 or the s20 plus because they may have similar 3d modeling abilities. Is an attempt at a Topographic survey like this only possible with an iphone or would one of the android models be capable of this as well?
Very good technology. Im cartographer tecnician. I am very happy that the technology has advanced so much.With this technology, GPS and many other measuring devices can be history. It would be great if there is a feature to give coordinates to the area measured with the camera.
I'm a drone mapper, and you can do that with an RTK PPK drone such as the autel evo 2 pro RTK. It's pretty great at creating ground control points with quite remarkable accuracy and giving coordinates outside of the control points. Often within a few cm 🤙 pretty expensive setup and software though
As for using it to gather information of the ground heights, totally plausible for a project right?
I'm currently looking for a Samsung version with lidar we use a C10 and ap40 at work
Rami, can i put 3d model from lidar on iphone, on google earth pro to saw some objects
Fascinating. Thank you. How large are the point cloud files?
My pleasure, they are surprisingly very small, less than 100 MB each.
Which app u used?
Many thanks - a very informative and useful video.
Thanks for the video.
I’m an architect and I use Revit 3D software for my design work. I’ve done about ten projects using a (expensive) Faro scanner and can import the point cloud using Autodesk’s Recap software.
How can the iPhone’s scans be imported into Revit? That would be a real gamer-changer!
If you use Autodesk flow of work it should be an ease. All point clouds can be exported in .laz and you can import .laz files into recap. Maybe more relevant questions would be if accuracy and georeferencing is important to you?. For real projects accuracy are often a must and iPhones do not have the accuracy you need for that. Then you have a project that is not really attached to any coordinate systems unless you establish ground control points and measure them physically (that requires a gnss receiver). I would definitely give this a go for preliminary sketches/ideas, preliminary existing conditions that do not require accuracy. I would concentrate my efforts on small projects since the iPhone can only do so much on bigger sites (larger files tend to be a problem).
Engineer here, same question. We use a Leica scanner
Go off, Rami 😩👏🏻
Thank you!
Hey @Rami Tamimi I have a question for you... Using the iPhone LiDAR can we measure the volume of a big boulder??? If we can please make video about it please.
There are apps that will calculate stockpile volumes
lidar x3
This music makes me want to start skating
Bonjour,
Quel logiciel avez vous utilisez sur l’iPhone?
What software other than Civil 3D can you display the topo points?
can this method be used for geodetic surveying via iPhone? Does it provide a cloud of points that can be imported into civilian 3d and georeferenced?
Yes it does, the hardware and software still needs improving but the methodology is there.
Is it legal for a person who is not a licensed surveyor to provide data to a surveyor? I'm in NC, which has statutes on the subject if that makes any difference. Your content is great at any rate.
Fantastic content👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
What is this application on your iphone?
Great job Rami 👍
Thanks 😀
Hai rami, can you make a tutorial to make a corridor in Autocad civil 3D used photogrametry/drone data? Thank you!
Do Companies in America need or require a survey Engineer ?
Как определятся и с какой точностью высота
I didn't catch which app you are using for the capture.
And I don't see it in the description.
5:45 what are the units of these residuals ? If meters it seems pretty terrible...
These are in feet, which is still pretty terrible because the iPhones GPS isn’t very good.
@@RamiTamimi everything looks better in feet 🤣
I haven't realize the iPhone was using gnss with Lidar, which means that with an external simple rtk receiver we could possibly achieve stunning results while highly reducing drift... I don't know how those apps work but they clearly use some kind of sensor fusion algorithm between lidar odometry and gnss... They're really one tiny step away from getting awesome results with the aid of an external device. Real-time would be a little bit trickier but post processing would definitely be easy. There's probably no market for that for anyone to get their hands on it though.
Thanks for the test, it's always interesting anyway.
Whats app in iPhone used?
What software are you using?
my first question is which is the best total station or iphone lidar my sec question is is only iphone 13 has this lidar. thanks
Total Station is better of course, it is a professional piece of equipment. The iPhone 12 Pro also has a LiDAR Sensor
Please test this moasure device
who aplication you use?
Excelente aporte.
What is the name of the app used?!??
LiDAR WHICH AAP USED IN IPHONE
What app is that please?
What app is this?
what app are you using to generate the point cloud within the iphone?
Pix4Dcatch
what iphone app is useed
I'm in the surveying business and this technology is both good and bad, i have ran into surveyors in new york that clearly use technology like this and when we go back to the subject property the client is wondering why the results are so different. This type of work needs to be done at centimeter level accuracy but some surveyors are abusing the fast and easy yet not accurate technology like this and producing legal documents.
incredible
Why don't you tape the phone to your drone and do a gride scan
What app were you using for the scans?
Pix4dCatch
name of the application?
Excelente!!
What is the app called?
Pix4dCatch
Great 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Video of with Catch
Try mounting the iphone on a drone next time maybe will be more accurate
I was going to use a gimble next time, should give cleaner data.
Looks like my neighborhood in Sterling Heights lol
Will the ipadpro be any better?
I wonder that too
while I dont know if its better, I do use an ipad pro. 11" 2020 model. Its better if you have to make annotations while also take scans, bigger screen plus pencil.
There is alot of theories saying the M1 chip in the iPad give better calibration results. I'll have to get my hands on one and try it for myself.
Why no one has used the iphone and wrote an app to do topographical survey. Will be a big money maker, it think.
Muito bom
Obrigada
Why? If someone wanted to LiDAR slam your home you’ve just given them extra data.